I love this cow-lizard

>metal
>flint
>crystal
>obsidian
>oil
>berries
The absolute legend.

Speaking of Ark, fuck Ark. You'd think that constant content updates would be a good thing but they just completely bogged down the game with an unbalanced stream of garbage.

Never even bothered fine tuning any of the older dinos or content they just kept cramming new shit in until the game was an unplayable mess.

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For me it's the mamenchisaurus

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I love how Anky looks in the films and games, but my dino-nerd side still cries over the inaccurate nodosaur-style side spikes and bone bands/turtle armor on its body. Which is why I was really happy to see Euoplocephalus looking like an ankylosaur should.

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I liked evolution, and played it a lot, but it just felt like something was missing

How much damage does that club tail do? You think it could shatter concrete ajd bend metal?

I can't decide whether these guys or the Camarasaurus are the worst at making happy, for fuck's sake you've got enough goddamned trees.

It is missing some of the major parts of Operation Genesis like the visitor types and needs, management systems like cleanliness of the park, and randomly-generated maps for sandbox mode. Some of it is due to game engine restrictions, some are Frontier's decisions.

I was a big fan of Operation Genesis and RCT3 back in the day. Is the new JP game worth my time? I just haven't felt the itch for a new park sim lately though.

>You think it could shatter concrete and bend metal?

Definitely. Ankylosaurus was approximately 30 ft long and weighed between 8,000 - 15,000lbs. A modern day Rhino can flip a car like it's a toy so an Anky would definitely have some tremendous destructive power.

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET 5 STARS IN ISLA TACANO
THERE'S NO FUCKING SPACE WHATSOEVER TO BUILD SHIT, HOLY TURBONIGGERS

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where are the feathers?

Is there a mod that stops the diversity hires from harassing me every two seconds?

Not all dinos had feathers.

It is missing some things from OG as outlined here , but it's gotten a lot of content, fixes, and expansions. I'd say it's worth it, especially if you're a fan of the dinosaur selection in OG because all but two of the dinosaurs are in Evolution and a lot of the dinos that were dummied out of OG are in as well.

Imagine being the progenitor for this shit, a cantankerous little shit that was slapping its tail so hard it evolved into this. I bet that dino was a bully.

You want more money, don't you?

So with that type of destructive power did no predator fuck with them? I know Dinosaur bones are dense as fuck but with that kind of power it can't be that hard for one swing to break bones and pop blood vessels to die of internal bleeding later.

For some reason I spent 60 hours calling it Mame-chan. I have no idea why. It just clicked it my head. Mame-chan and Camara-chan.

Will Capcom ever bring back Juresident Parkvil with feathers?

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They should have just made JWE a phone game. The gameplay is basically that shallow.

Stop being an autist about feathers.

It's a cute name

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Is there an Argentinosaur? The largest land creature to ever live?

You're being one right now, faggot. it was just a joke

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>but it just felt like something was missing
The actual management aspect of the game left a lot to be desired. Same as Planet Coaster, only even MORE shallow. Frontier just sucks at it. In both the games, the guests were pretty much disposable. The visual representation had nothing to do with their numbers. And the profits from shops weren't actually based on busy walkways, just busy *areas* (meaning you could put a fast food restaurant behind a hotel with a path leading to nowhere and it would hit max profits). We'll see how Planet Zoo comes out. But the management stuff is really important to me. That's what I get off on. Stats, organizing, maximizing.

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-You only need 1 viewing platform in the entire park. Keep the hotels and shops and food around it, make sure everything that requires food and shops have them. Also THE best shop and food is the Restaurant and the Clothes Shop.
-Build your enclosures for the dinosaur in it that requires the most space, then fill it with them and other dinosaurs with less needs. Go for dinos that have high population tolerances. Also remember that you can mix Small Theropods with Armored Herbivores and Sauropods and Large Theropods as well as Large Theropods with Sauropods (except Indominus).
-Paleobotany can be helpful to give your herbivores a good rating boost, but you'll have to carefully mix and match the types of dinosaurs so you don't poison them with food they can't eat. Also invest in the genetic boosts, especially Bone Density, it give a huge boost to rating and stats.

Hard to say but seems to me that most predators probably wouldn't fuck with it.

It shared the same habitat in the same time frame with the T-Rex, and it was likely a very slow dinosaur. So in order for it to survive I think it's very likely that it was too difficult/risky for rexes or other predators to kill.

>Dinosaur game thread
unopular opinion: there isn't a single good one

Wait for a sale, and skip the Claire DLC. Or, at least know that the dinosaurs can die of old age and fuck your game so you have to start the campaign over. They don't TELL you that, of course. So you take your time establishing a beautiful sanctuary and BOOM game over out of fucking nowhere.

Dreadnoughtus was added a while ago. No Argentinosaurus itself, though.

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Genuinely surprised this wasn't a configuration option (to disable the contract nagging). Once I get all the unlocks, I just kept 3 active contracts that would never be completed and that shut them up. But it still took up screen real-estate.

They did it with Civ 5. It could work.

Why and how did Sauropads wven get that big? I know trees were fuckhuge back then hundreds of millions of tears ago but how the fuck did it regulate body temperature much less breath normally from being that big? Not to mention spending almost the whole day doing nothing but eating to keep up with the energy demand.

I fucking love dinosaurs, but I also fucking love just being able to look at them without killing them. I would kill for an adventure game similar to Subnautica where you can take the time to just admire the wildlife in between moments of sheer terror where you might have to run the fuck away from tendy rex.

Carnivores was pretty good, but it aged like milk

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That beautifully manicured perfectly-leveled grass. Those dinos don't know how well they got it. Probably because they can't see down that far.

They just did. Their bodies evolved to handle the challenges of being huge, and there was enough food back then to feed such bodies. At that size they have no predators which by itself is one big advantage.

It would have to keep its head down for at least 16 hours a day. I mean, the amount of energy it would expend simply pushing blood up through the neck would be insane. Anyone that's owned an aquarium should know how much force it takes to push liquid 15 feet straight up. Even the best home pumps on the market can barely do 6'.

Evolution tries to benefit each species as much as possible. If back then animals could get near Kaiju-sized wothout much consequences, then why the fuck not?

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The earth was a very oxygen-rich environment back then. I don't know if you've ever been to Vegas, but they pump oxygen in to the casinos. It keeps you fucking wired and active. I'm assuming it was the same thing back then but on a planetary scale.

You dont need hyper-efficient breathing patterns because the air is just so fucking packed with oxygen you practically need the bigger body to level out all that energy.

Why is the Argentinosaurus so fucking underrated? He's in literally 0 games

Weren't Gigantosaurs the Argentinosaurs only natural predator? Not like they really hunted much because they cannibalized on dead packmates after a hunt because one tail swing or 40 tons of weight violently crashing onto them was instant death.

Man, there was some game from the 90s. It was a fighting game like Street Fighter (2d side-view style). I can't remember what it was called.

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They won the evolution game. Ate the best leaves without even trying and made predators shit themselves without moving a muscle

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Giganotosaurus, in a group, could likely take down a sub-adult Argentinosaurus. They wouldn't even try to face anything bigger.

Primal Rage

I got you, senpai.

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Primal Rage shit was trash.

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Primal Rage?

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Might be "too plain" because aside from size it's not really memorable-looking.

Fun Fact: Primal Rage had this run of comic books. There were only 4. And very low circulation. Extremely rare.
mycomicshop.com/search?TID=146541

Put an Ark platform on it's back and you'd have a mobile home or party platform.

Because all the representations would be inaccurate, since only a few fossils were found

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Stop this meme. The Mesozoic era had lower oxygen levels than today.

Tfw the devs dont wanna port it because they dont give a fuck.

The fact that the Femur is that huge means the size is accurately guessed.

It went on sale a while ago. It looks fun but just like Operation Genesis, the devs were limited by the IP holder on what they could do with the game.

Planet Zoo has some pretty beautiful looking Komodo Dragons and Crocodiles. They will probably release an Ice Age expansion in the future.

That's a bullshit excuse. They're dinosaurs. We don't really know what they looked like. You can just add shit to the design like thousands of modern artists are doing. Maybe they looked like wacky as fuck Tim Burton characters with a black-white color patern, stripes on the neck and tail and scary yellow eyes, you don't know

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>based on a popular Atari video game of the 1990s
err
>Atari Jaguar CD
Oh, right, that was a thing.

>Arcade, SNES, Genesis, MS-DOS, Game Boy & Game Gear, 3DO & Amiga, Atari Jaguar CD, PlayStation, Sega 32X, Sega Saturn
The mid-90s. Damn, look at that list. Where did we go wrong?

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I cant even pronounce what the fuck youre saying faggot. Big lizard had big air

that's a huge cock

this

i forget the exact term but basically for too long artists have been doing this thing where they draw dinosaurs as basically just tiny layers of skin and muscle right above the bone instead adding more natural interpretation, and there was a set of images that went around that showed what it would look like if we applied the same practice to animals we have today and it was pretty horrifying

Or it could have been a necklet

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Eggs with fetus show it was a sauropod so no way it was a lanklet.

>"All the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are female"
I really wanted to see some giant herbivore cock. Like, not even kidding. Someone, somewhere, has to know how endowed those things were. I want to see it, I want to see it penetrate something tiny, and I want to see it with a some early 70's soft jazz playing in the background. God dammit.

I have the diablo toy. I lost the metal claws but I remember a lot with him. When Digimon came out I pretended he could digivolve into Metal Diablo.

Mine is missing a bit of paint but everything else is fine. Toys back then were pretty high quality.

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It had action figures too. I remember I had the yellow t-rex and the raptor.

Fuck those devs, they being friendly just during the first weeks of the alpha game makes me even more mad.

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is this game actually good?

Were dinosaurs developed enough to be tamed Yea Forums?

I think dinosaur games need to make a comeback.

What ever happened to those games where you play as a dinosaur that were being developed?

The Isle / Saurian? Those I think had some potential.

DinoCrisis type games definitely could be neat, even something like a modern Turok game with a good plot.

Jurrasic World evolution was okay, but it still felt pretty limited compared to operation Genesis.

Ark was extremely successful, and I think went about as far as 'survivors on dinosaur island' genre could go... but the other ones are still missing that level of game.

I used to play Ark a lot back in the day. I remember there was a general every day but then it died when 3 asshole hackers took down the biggest clan of the thread.

Not as good as JPOG but it's been 15 years and we aren't getting anything else.

Shit my nigga I still got Armadon with all the pieces plus the card.

I used to have Vertigo and Diablo but they were just lost to time I guess.

Maybe a Troodon, but that's it.

>three DLCs coming in the near future
>one is most likely the Jurassic Park 1993 DLC which hopefully adds the JP93 aesthetics, buildings, and Land Explorer ride along with some of the dinosaurs from the original novel and movie that aren't in the game like Hypsilophodant
>one is another dinosaur pack, contents unknown
>third one is a mystery

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I mained Anky in Warpath.

youtube.com/watch?v=MtiLYAhYURk

The Isle is boring as fuck. Need a Ancsestors game but with Dinosaurs. Go through all three periods in an alternate reality where a meteor didn't strike the Earth and Dinosaurs lived on. Maybe Troodons qouls have been the dominant sentient lifeform and not mammals.

I need 'Cadillacs and Dinosaurs' to make a comeback, old-school inaccurate designs included, like a tail-dragging T-Rex.

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This game is de-listed on Steam. Can't buy it there anymore.

Not the lizardcows like in the OP? Or a Parasaur? Obviously you'd never wanna tame something that can easily kill you like an apex predator or a Raptor but there are a few herbivores that you could probably win over.

It's a beautiful park designer/creator. The actual gameplay leaves much to be desired, but if you simply want to build, breed, and watch some dinos - it's the best we got.

I'm really tempted to buy unopened ones. The quality that went into both the boxes and toys is worth it IMO. Plus they aren't as expensive as other vintage toys.

>Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
HOLY SHIIIT I completely forgot about this fucking game. I remember spending hours on the arcade. Playing as a hot chick stopping a charging triceratops on its track with your fucking fists was based

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I watched that show mainly for her. Where I got my love for tied-up shirts that showed belly and cleavage.

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I look forward to paying $20 for 5 new dinosaurs.

You do that. Someone has to fund it so I can get it for free.

>I look forward to paying $20 for 5 new dinosaurs.
No, that's not all! Then you have to go revisit every island you playing and level up the diversity-hires ... again ... to unlock the new dinosaurs by sending out expeditions to collect some more bones. We're talking like 15 hours of gameplay! Wee! Yay, gameplay. Amiright?

It's the only game I played on an actual arcade machine, it was awesome. And I loved the cartoon, haven't watched it in almost 20 years though.

Terror birds are great, someone should make a horror game

They should remake this game.

youtube.com/watch?v=FrKbJSwr1kM

Thanks vros

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You only pay that much for the DLCs with more campaign content as well.

>why do I have to play this video game?!
Gamers really are lazy whiny little bitchbabies.
>hurr diversity hires!
And also so threatened by everything that isn't white.

Intelligence is probably the most important factor in animal training. An animal needs to be able to understand cause and effect which is usually achieved through positive reinforcement conditioning, rewarding good behavior with food. A lot of large herbivores were kind of stupid, especially the lineage of stegosaurs and ankylosaurs. Sauropods were none too smart either, you probably wouldn’t be able to get much out of them. Honestly the most realistic example of dinosaur training is Jurassic World, the level of detail in regards to the raptor training in the movie is really something, I liked how Chris Pratt was shown using a clicker multiple times. And dromaeosaurs were among the most intelligent dinosaurs which I think makes them very viable for training if they were brought back.

If you have the disposable income, go for it. Just beware that it's a slippery slope. One second you're buying a vintage toy from your childhood that you'd like to have back, the next you've got a shelf full of Beastwars and Mighty Max and you're wondering whether or not you should commit to a really nice lot of opened War Planets toys.

Nostalgia is a son of a bitch

It's true, though. All the dinosaur packs made you go back and do fucking contract-farming to unlock the dinosaurs you just paid for in parks you already completed. And yeah, those were totally diversity hires. Not that I care. But they are all terrible personalities that weren't the least bit welcome so it just highlights their other flaws, like coincidentally all being ethnically non-white.

Full crack when

>something that can easily kill
Yeah, something that weighs about 3 tons and has horns and a fucking shield on its fucking heads would have a lot of trouble killing you.

That's why I wanna buy the Primal Rage ones. There's not a bunch of them unlike Transformers or He-Man toys.

Is actually playing a game really that horrible for you? It was so icky and gooky to spend ten minutes MAYBE having to rep-grind since a lot of the DLC dinos are low enough on the grind that you already have them available and some of them don't even requite that, just researching their dig sites?
>they're not white that means they're so horrible it hurt me physically
Christ.

Im shocked to see a JWE thread on Yea Forums. This has to be someone/someones from Frontier building hype for the next dlc because I know no one here gives a shit about this game and rightly so. I am on the JWE everyday and its pathetic because all we do is sit there and beg them to put basic shit in the game that should have been in at launch like bathrooms and benches.

I love the game but it is ridiculous that after a year we only have a couple rocks and trees to decorate the park with and a few paint brush tools. Much better than nothing (which was the case for the whole year) but jesus christ stop making me wait months on end for three dinos and a free update.

Randomly running into a group of five of them while on foot in the redwoods is already enough of a horror game.

What if instead of the dinosaurs breaking out and eating people. They fucked them XD?

And time. Lots and lots of time. If you get a new puppy at 8 weeks, you can have him trained by 16 weeks with all 11 basic obedience commands. But that's just a rocky foundation. This is where it gets fun and you get to solidify your bond. Over the next 2 years, they have to get to know YOU and understand your subtle movements and patterns which they then can associate with the behavior. This can't be taught.

After a while, the actual command is meaningless. What begins as simply "Sit" and a hand gesture (pinching your fingers together while raising your hand a bit) will eventually evolve to being lots of different cues that the animal understands without being taught - sit, hand gesture, dirty look, or pointing at the ground, grunting, etc. The dog learns to read and understand all those movements you do without thinking.

Point being, training a dinosaur would be incredibly default because only 1 person could do it and they'd have to be there for life. If you brought in someone else, the dino would have to relearn everything from the ground up because they aren't familiar with the person's demeanor or subtle cues. Extremely dangerous. Not something I'd want to do.

"Shrinkwrapping"

It's not XD it's haha

not that user but is irritating having to go back to a park just to do lame contracts (make a x building just because, sell an expensive dino for not even half of its initial cost, sit for ten minutes and dont have a blackout) just so you can get the meter to unlock whatever new dino.

Nigga, it took like 5 months for them to crack it the first time because it was so low on their priority list. I wouldn't get your hopes up for them to revisit it.

The Isle has been in an update drought for a few months. Its undergoing a massive recoding to basically rebuild it from the ground up because one of the devs got fired and his code was apparently so shit that they'd prefer to rebuild the whole game from scratch than try to keep working with his code. One of the animators streams sometimes to show stuff off. It's still basically DayZ but with dinosaurs in its current state though.
I haven't followed saurian, but from what I can tell, it's basically a dead game. Hasn't updated in over a year, devs keep posting dev blogs saying that they're working on shit, but nothing ever actually comes out, as far as I've read.

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Longsaur is long

Don't overthink it. I am the only one posting in this thread. Just talking to myself.

user what the hell is that

>I know no one here gives a shit about this game and rightly so
Assume makes an ass of you and me.

The Ultimate chads in natural selection

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its called skin wrapping and its a bad meme popularized by people that think Hadrosaurs were giant turkeys

If any more hadrosaurs get added, they need to be either or both of the two largest species, Magnapaulia and Shantungosaurus, both of which were 49-53 feet in length, larger than even the Spinosaurus.

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ark had potential but went to shit when they started flooding the game with meaningless content. also for people like me who dont want to be bothered playing with other people there is little to do and everything takes FOREVER so its super grindy.

would be better if dinos were instant tamed considering they die so easily.

Biological systems are usually underrated in terms of effectiveness and resistance. If a thread of spidersilk is more resistant than a thread of metal of the same width then I expect anything.
Also plants have to pump water and nutrients dozens of meters.

Something from a storytime thread on Yea Forums a long while back. Can't remember the name of the comic. Might have been Age of Reptiles?

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there are these things called giraffes. people magically forget about them when talking about dinosaurs.

>JP themed Nintendo Switch arrives to Isla Nublar's gift shop

It's really a shame that these things were mostly tropical, unlike mammoths. We know exactly how they roll because we've found so many mammoth-pops. I mean, fuck, they're trying to clone one (maybe they already did, I dunno). But we can't even find out how big a Dread's penis was.

Plants use a sort of bleeding effect. Think about dipping the end of a paper towel in a glass of water, and watching it climb. Moving raw liquid, to the beat of heart, is something completely different. Maybe they had a valve system in their neck? Like one-way valves that prevented backflow. I imagine they'd have to.

this. so much speculation when it comes to dinosaurs. I was sad to find out one my favorite dinos from JWE (metiacanthosaurus) hardly has any fossils so the whole thing you see in the game is more or less made up.

Don't just come on the internet making shit up. Gullible people out there are liable to believe your nonsense.

Like giraffes do, yes. The problem for the "tall" sauropods would be, like giraffes, bending their heads down to drink, not keeping them up.

its true though. my great granpappy saw one before the niggers and chinks killed them all.

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Please stop, you're frightening the microraptors. Look at him. He is literally frozen in terror. You monster.

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What I'm hoping for is some more small herbivores. We only have six of them right now, the three pachycephalosaurids and the three ornithomimids. I want Dryosaurus, Hypsilophodant, Psittacosaurus, and Mussaurus.

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Some might be a stretch, but the dinosaurs sure as fuck didn't have those sunken eyes and extremely apparent skull bones

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>"Well, I guess I've got brain damage!"

Reminder that this was the first reconstruction of a wooly mammoth

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Same here dryosaurus in particular because we have ZERO small herbivores from the Jurassic era. Also I am hoping that Mussaurus is in this next dino pack since it will probably be an herbivore pack with pachrhinosaurus and some lame hadrosaur.

Is this a Jojo Reference?

Was the artist/biologist high? Why would the tusks be in opposite directions?

Reminder that this is how we used to paint elephants

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From what the rumors are the new hadrosaur is a second species of Parasauralophus with a straight crest instead of curved. Boring and lazy as fuck.

That drawing was likely made back in the 1800s or so.

Peep

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damn, even cavemen could draw better

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he thought mammoths were giant boars and some species of boar have tusks that are more retarded than that

Tziaonsaurus? Or whatever the hell that Chinese place is called

>That drawing was likely made back in the 1800s or so.
Oh I get that, I'm just wondering why they would think the tusks would be in opposite directions.

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Different case entirely. The artists who drew these had never seen an elephant in their lives, they didn't have internet back then, user. Travelers gave them instructions on what the animals looked like. The instuctions were shit like "it's a big fucking pig with long legs and snake-like noses"

I love all the drawing made based only descriptions, they always ended up with such bizarre results, rarely coming close to the actual animal. It's a really interesting insight into how one would imagine these animals look like.

so whats the best dino game then?

>Spinosauar now theorized to be an almost entirely aquatic quadruped living similar to a piscivorous Crocodile
>Instead of the land based semi aquatic bipedal that hunted more like a crane waiting for prey to come to it before quickly attacking

>Tfw either way it's still terrifying

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its an asian parasaur called charonsaurus or something

tfw some caveperson got off to this

Well, I appreciate the way you play off not knowing shit.

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my faverit dino of course (apatosaurus)

Yeah, Charonosaurus. I think the only difference is going to be the crest will be straight instead of curved.

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You know you can adjust basically every setting in the game right? Only complete masochists would play with official default rates. You can have a 150 giga tame in 30 seconds if you want.

[laughs in Durero]

You can tell they really studied those animals carefully

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The caveman probably had seen one in his lifetime, dipshit.

>You know you can adjust basically every setting in the game right?

even then the game is super grindy. creatures are essentially just farming equipment to cut down on that and nothing more.

Dang that's pretty good, Grog.

I've always disregarded those stupid four-legged Spinosaurus theories, not because of JPIII but because the guy who proposed it was mixing the bones from several different individuals, with the legs being from a sub-adult specimen. Plus the fact that there's no reason for Spinosaurus to have such a radically different shape from its close relatives Suchomimus and Baryonyx when all three did the same thing.

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Original Specie, donut steal

Makes you wonder why we never see illustrations of other humans by them. Imagine finding a neolithic drawing of a person with such detail.

ME AM FIRST DA VINCI!

who knows

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I'm not going to sit here and defend WC or their laziness and refusal to address or fix older content and deal with exploits/chinks, but the game is marketed as a sandbox and that's what it is. If a dino doesn't have a utility then it just ends up forgotten because it's not as useful. So having different dinos be more efficient at certain tasks makes perfect sense.

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Cut him some slack, a medieval artist would never get the chance in his life to see an elephant. These guys could produce complex and detailed art too.

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This is like if anime artists drew elephants.

>TFW no dino petting zoo

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That's an extremely retarded thing to say. Literally what are you even saying?

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How do you feel about the three hybrid dinosaurs they introduced in the Dr. Wu DLc, and would you be okay with any more hybrids in the future?

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I wish the Stegoeratops existed irl :(

Maybe as a general rule, but remember predators will attack anything if they're desperate enough and a good opportunity appears.
Lions attack young elephants or even adults if they're away from the herd, and there is registered footage of orcas attacking a fucking blue whale.
If they were preyed upon it'd probably be by pack carnivores. There is (contested) evidence that suggests theropods might have hunted in packs, but I personally doubt it.

That's a really depressing drawing. 3 acts of sorrow.

Something I wanna know that doesn't get addressed is how the hell did these massive creatures fuck? Argentinosaurus was theorized to be up 100,000 kg. How does something that massive fuck without killing it's paramour.

yeah but it's from a The Onion article

Not much of a fan.

If anime girls == real girls
Then those cutesy elephants (are those fucking eyelashes?) == real elephants

>know Dinosaur bones are dense as fuck
Weren't dinosaur bones like bird bones which is why a bad blow from an ankylo is a death sentence for a predator as it cripples it for life?
> did no predator fuck with them?
Even elephants and hippos get fucked with sometimes, and sometimes they are the ones that end up getting the fucking instead of doing it.

>Impaling that fucker's skull
>No reaction at all
Why is medieval art so hilarious

I like the spinosaurid special fish eating animation.

It's CUTE.

>Jumps on the fish feeder and tries to catch them.

Kind of a dumb idea. I mean, I get the plug for the movie dinosaurs. But it's not like there's a shortage of REAL dinosaur species that aren't represented.

Top two are the dope as hell and would definitely push me over the edge if I was debating going to a dinosaur park (again). Personally I've never found Sauropods or Anklyosaur all that cool

I got 2 great pyrenees. the 130lb one is a faggot that's always trying to hump his 110lb brother. The brother can support his weight just fine. So 130,000kg being supported by 110,000kb isn't that much of a stretch. That weight is mostly muscle and bone in both cases.

But it'd still be fuckin' hilarious to watch.

Anime artists don't draw everything with eyelashes. You're not making any sense

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THEROZINOSAUROUS WHEN

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>its raptor half means it's not genetically experienced enough to fish as successfully as a spinosaurid would
>half the time it catches something, the other half it misses and shakes its head angrily
>the way it perches on the rim
My only complaint about the fish feeding animations is that Spinosaurus doesn't put its hands on the rim to steady itself.

Problem is that many dinosaur species are very similar in appearance to each other. Frontier had to alter Carcharadontosaurus' head so it would look different from Giganotosaurus. Hybrids are a way to add some variety and work with the lore of the Jurassic film series.

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Amargasaurus when

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pterosaurs are neat too

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I missed Fossil Fighters
What did they have to ruin it with Frontier?

Considering how highly requested those two are on the forums, they'll be in sooner or later.

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>Frontier not only fucked up his design but also made it less caurate
>LE CROCODILE FACE XD

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>Personally I've never found Sauropods or Anklyosaur all that cool

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>So 130,000kg being supported by 110,000kb isn't that much of a stretch
Nigga that's a MASSIVE stretch are you high? Could you imagine if a creature that weighed 20,000 kg more than you tried to fuck you? Because that's what happens every time a Sauropod wants to get freaky.

Jesus this thing is scary. Imagine it chasing you

>They all get along
Aww, that's nice

I fucking hate Frontier. Such a shit entry it killed the series.

Didn't even have the cutest raptor.
Picture related.

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*Many dinosaur species have very similar skeletons
Discussed a bit above.
Horses and zebra are pretty distinctive due to zebra stripes and hard mane, but their skeletons are extremely similar.
Not to mention birbs, where you have a massive variety in plumage (think fucking peacock) while only beak shape is preserved in fossils.

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>56%

They should add some more fun hybrids. How about a raptor and a hamster? Or a stegosaurus and a flamingo? Surely we can have more fun than yet-anonther-dinosaur-with-slightly-higher-attack-stats. Flamingasaurs, god dammit. Make it happen!

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Only in Sandbox mode with aggression turned off. Since they're all Large Theropods they'd have killed each other in five minutes normally. Actually that's another problem I have with the game, how you can't have Large Theropods that are related together or how you can't have the hybrid theropods able to coexist peacefully with their constituent dinosaurs (within the parameters of the films, of course), like having an Indominus rex coexist with and be the alpha of a Velociraptor pack or have a pack of Spinoraptors living with a Spinosaurus.

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Don't fat-shame. Not cool.

>You are now a park guest on the other side of that fence.

Incidentally, why don't paths give any sort of viewing coverage? Isn't that a bit of an oversight? No pun intended.

True, but this is a video game we're talking about, where the time and money and manpower needs to be used wisely. There's little point in having both Brachiosaurus and Giraffititan in the game, for example, or Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus. Dinosaurs with distinctive adornments and looks like Amargasaurus, Therizinosaurus, Oviraptor, Cryolophosaurus, Magnapaulia, etc are a lot fewer and farther between.

No idea. Might be because it would be silly for paths to have viewing coverage when you're using concrete walls.

JWE is comfy as fuck. It's a shame there aren't more threads about it. I still haven't attempted the challenges but I probably should instead of just dicking around in the sandbox.

It's Age of Reptiles.

>Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus
Maybe there's a generation gap, but when I was growing up, there were 4 or 5 dinosaur names you heard alot. Stegasaurus, T-rex, Raptor, ... one of them was Brontosaurus. I always thought Brontosaurus was one of the more famous ones so it should have been a priority. But I dunno. Maybe it's just because they had discovered the most about Brontosaurus when I was growing up (born in '81).

It always kinda bummed me out that Indominus ate it's sibling in the movie for that "Ruthless factor" they were going for. I think it would have been pretty cool if they had a double trouble dynamic on top of the fact that Indominus was the apex dinosaur. It's not like Dinosaurs needed an excuse to kill each other in the other 3 movies. Maybe if they just had them at an adolescent stage so they'd be a bit smaller then T-rex but close to getting bigger.

>You're telling me you made a 50 feet 20,000 kg, hyper intelligent, predator with zero social groups
>No, no, of course not! We're not idiots!
>That's good because...
>We made TWO of them! They get along pretty well actually

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We'll put little windows in them. It'll be fine.

I watched the last movie (from 2018) about a month ago, and I was wondering why that super-duper-ultra-megasaurus hybrid with the gold stripe didn't have the camo ability. I mean, if you're trying to make the perfect killing machine, that camo should have come before laser-targetting.

>tfw you realize cavemen weren't narcissistic

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It's a mirror thing. That's why birds are narcissistic assholes. They spend half the day in front of the mirror.

What we knew as Brontosaurus had the name Apatosaurus assigned to it first, and in paleontology the first name assigned to a taxon is the official name unless the taxon is found to be defunct. It just took a long time for that rule to be applied to Apatosaurus. HOWEVER, recently a couple of new sauropod species that are related to Apatosaurus were discovered, and they were assigned the name Brontosaurus. So don't fret, the Thunder Lizard still walked the earth.

The Indoraptor in the film was the prototype model and it was flawed due to the genes they were using being over-used and in need of fresh genetics. They were also likely more concerned with seeing how well it could be trained than how well it could hide at the time.

The brontosaurus was one of the most controversial creatures in biology so they just replaced him with the brachiosaurus as the "Big one with long neck"

Notice how birds are always assholes in video games

>no feathers

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The "dinosaurs" in the Jurassic Park franchise are not actual dinosaurs you ignorant nigger. they are genetic monsters.

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>>>>Triceratops

>triceratops
I will hunt you down and beat you with a monitor lizard.

Every time.

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I will admit, it triggered my autism a bit

I 100% it too but I haven’t played it since the “carnivore pack” or whatever. If they are just gonna add more T-Rex and Triceratops clones I think I’m done with it. I just wanted underwater dinos

It's still missing things, but I am so glad that they added the individual trees, rocks, and the sand, dirt, rock, and mud options along with the different types of underbrush, those alone have made creating enclosures so much more fun and rewarding.
>make a hill and place the huge umbrella tree atop it to give a big shady area
>make a small pit and place said tree into it to create a big bush
>rocky mazes for the small dinosaurs to wander around in
>beachside enclosures with sand and palm trees and a large lake
>rocky cliffside enclosures with rivers along the bottom, or a river-cut rocky valley

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For some reason putting the Velociraptors in sandy enclosures just feels so right.

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So, did they ever decide if dinosaurs had feathers or not? Are we going to look back on the last 80 years of media one day and laugh at how stupid we were for thinking they didn't have feathers?

I REALLY, really, really, wanted to like this game, but ultimately I have two huge problems with it:
-One is the star system doesn't make any sense and how the game determines what guests need is stupid and inherently retarded. When the game first came out you didn't even 'need' for your guests to be able to see the fucking dinosaurs.
-Two, and this is the big one, there's no 'random' play. I don't want challenge mode so much as I want a random map, random digs, no timer, go, etc.. Like what we had in operation genesis. I actually HATE challenge mode because of the timer.

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So that's what a giant herbivore's poo looks like. I feel enlightened.

retconned with the frog sequences

From the leaks, sony force Frontier to push the game out in time for the movie, and after seeing how good Planet Zoo looks and the feed back from fans Sony is letting them make Evolution 2 and take their sweet ass time with it.

You folks heard of Prehistoric Kingdom?
store.steampowered.com/app/666150/Prehistoric_Kingdom/

The tech demo out is primitive but the development process has remained remarkably open.

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>One is the star system doesn't make any sense and how the game determines what guests need is stupid and inherently retarded. When the game first came out you didn't even 'need' for your guests to be able to see the fucking dinosaurs.
That one's really easy, though. As long as you have just one viewing platform, enough hotels to hold your guests, a monorail system if your park is large or spread out, and a Restaurant, Clothes Shop, and a Bar or Arcade around the platform and hotels, you can easily five-star everything by having enough and a good mix of dinosaurs.

>did they ever decide if dinosaurs had feathers or not?
Yes, decades ago, user.
>Are we going to look back on the last 80 years of media one day and laugh at how stupid we were for thinking they didn't have feathers?
Not really.

SOME dinosaurs did. Don't listen to the dumbasses who think every single dinosaur ever was covered with feathers.

>who think every single dinosaur ever was covered with feathers.
Nobody says that. It's just theropods, which is what birds are

>One is the star system doesn't make any sense and how the game determines what guests need is stupid and inherently retarded.
At first glance, yes. What you do is go to the command center, click on the star rating, then click again on both of the star requirements (forgot what they were called. One was dino, one was guests). The dino one tells you exactly how many varieties of dino you need and the total number of dinos is normally 3x that amount, give or take. Their health is easily maintained by simpy keeping them happy.

Now, the other one with the guests is trickier. You'll need to use the overlay tool, and select "Hunger" "Fun" "Thirst" etc to find out any attractions that demand. Then you blanket the area with the shelters. Make sure all guest attractions are covered. Then you use the overlay to make sure as much as possible of your enclosures is blue. Use the towers, viewing things, monorails, gyros, anything you need to. And with all that combined, you should get 5 stars for the 2nd catagory. Oh, and make sure all your food stalls are turning a profit (again, use the overlay). I normally set all my prices $5 above the default then forget about them except to increase staff as needed.

The guest capacity requirement should fill automatically with those other things done. And that's it.

>I actually HATE challenge mode because of the timer.
Yes they completely missed the memo on this one. Builders, designers, and simulators HATE timers because we can't create and explore and push our simulations to perfections. Hopefully they don't have that shit in Planet Zoo. I 5-starred every Jurassic Challenge mode and swear to god I was so fucking done with this game after that. It sucked the fun right out of it.

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Interesting. Added to my wishlist to keep an eye on. Thanks

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>and a Restaurant, Clothes Shop, and a Bar or Arcade around the platform and hotels,
In my experimenting, I just stopped using all those other things. Fast Food and Gift Shop was enough to fulfill the needs of everyone. Interesting about needing 1 viewing platform, though. Never made that connection.

Sauropods pretty much hit the perfect storm with regard to ancestral characteristics - four-legged bodyplan, hollow bones, and advanced air sacs/respiration - to allow them to grow to ridiculous dimensions compared to other animals.
>Air sacs
Allowed them to process air far more efficiently than animals with a single-track respiration system, and also to distribute/absorb air across a far larger portion of their body. This was also another factor that helped them keep their skeletons so light - most of the large ones literally had extensions of their respiratory tract in their bones.

>Hollow bones
Allowed them to act structurally without getting big enough to make movement and growth difficult. Note that most sauropods are built like suspension bridges - a lot of their skeleton is designed to distribute mass, which is possible if you can make bones to do that that hardly weigh anything. Some sauropods had parts of their neck bones only about the thickness of eggshells, for instance.

That specific combination of traits is the chief reason nothing has ever really gotten near their size bracket - the largest hadrosaurs, ceratopsians, and mammals generally peaked at around ~20-25 tons, which seems to be the limit for a four-legged animal without hollow bones and/or air sacs.

As for food yeah they ate pretty much constantly. These things would generally have walked through a forest and completely destroyed it as they migrated by.

t. paleo enthusiast

You do know that you get the rewards by simply five-starring the challenge and the "time limit" is simply there if you want to try to do it that quickly.

The Restaurant and Clothes Shop give the largest amount of Food and Shopping, and the Bar and Arcade gives a lot of Fun and helps with the Drink. Having them means more room for the dinosaur exhibits.

Really? That's pretty damn misleading. I'm not going to call you a liar, but I think I'd need a 2nd source on that. I don't have the game installed anymore so I can't check the screen, but I'm sure it didn't say anything about it being optional.

BestInSlot discovered it while he was doing his Challenge Mode runs, and when I did my first run on Mataceros in Jurassic difficulty I went over the time limit but still got both reward skins.

Remember, play dead and the dinos will leave you alone.

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No, he's right. Only time it matters is for the specific time completed achievements.

The rickety guest needs mechanics makes it hard to pin down, but I swear guests had a preference on what stores to visit and those Fast Food and Gift Shops were always packed while Restaurants sitting right next to them would be empty. It really made no fucking sense. But we all know the guest management part of the game is just like that. Maybe it was price related? I couldn't find any pattern in high/low priced sales, either. Guests didn't seem to prefer cheap or expensive stuff. In high-traffic areas, I could push $2 meals all the way up to $99 each and they'd just keep buying them. Shit made no sense.

>anxious pup gives unconscious owner CPR

Spinoraptor is a top tier hybrid, genuinely better than the Indoraptor. Stegoceratops is ok but a bit too spiky for my tastes. Ankylodocus is the worst thing in the game, it’s just an uglier, more expensive, less social Diplodocus and it can’t even fight despite having armor and a club tail. Worthless and ugly.

Going off the most research it is looking that feathers are either ancestral to dinosaurs (there's some recent Chinese paper that analyzed the fibers pterosaurs had as homologous to feathers, meaning they share an evolutionary origin) or else showed up really early in their history (Kulindadromeus seems to possess feathers or else managed some stupidly convergent integument).

That said, dinosaurs also seem to have lost feathers on quite a few occasions. For example all evidence points to at least sauropods, hadrosaurs, and abelisaurs (weird primitive-branch theropods) being either completely or almost wholly scaly. Big horned dinosaurs and potentially large theropods such as Tyrannosaurus also seem to have lost at least most of their feathering, believed to be due to their body mass making that insulation a detriment.

Why no modern media has enough balls to show feathered dinosaurs.

The in-depth mechanics are fiddly, I agree, I've had some shops be almost dormant even when my park has 3,000+ guests and they're right next to exhibits and hotels while others across the park were packed. Overall though those four buildings are the best if you want maximum guest ratings with minimum space used, and they're especially helpful in Challenge Mode on higher difficulties.

>damn, even cavemen could draw better

That's an unfair statement to make.
Some Cavemen were pretty damn fine artists. They had an excellent grasp on the shape/outline/silhouette of animals, their line work is often really confident, and their use of tone and colour is fantastic.

Pic example, it's a buffalo/wisent, but even just look at your simple Wooly Mammoth drawing- they included texture for the fur, drew the wrinkles on the eye and forehead, they even got the right shape of the elephants head. Their attention to key detail is really fantastic.

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I drunkenly preordered like the night before it came out because I thought Suchomimus was a preorder bonus and he was my fucking main in Warpath. It's pretty shit but eh.

I felt this game was plenty of Jurassic, not enough park,
Where's all the theme park rides?

It’s true, I’ve been hours over time on every Jurassic difficulty challenge I’ve done because I’m not a psychopath who hates fun and still got the skins. I even did the carnivores only Pena challenge mode on Jurassic difficulty which was a massive pain in the ass, especially since it was before the carnivore pack with Herrerasaurus and Proceratosaurus.

My normal challenge mode setup was 3 hotels in a triangle pattern with 1 walkway leading out to the food/fun shops just ouside of viewing range, and one massive enclosure wrapping snuggly around all hotels. It was big enough for the annoying tree-huggers (like Mamenchisaurus) plus a 4-pack of t-rexes and a couple raptors. It was like a self-contained ecosystem. But it never failed - the clothing shop and restaurant wouldn't take nearly as much traffic as the fast food and gift shop, even if they were closer to the hotels. Even if the fast food place was full, they usage of the restaurant didn't go up. I have no idea what is going on with those mechanics.

The four-legged theories seem to have been mostly debunked nowadays, but remember that Spinosaurus was one of the last spinosaurs by some tens of millions of years. In evolutionary time that's a lot of time for things to change (e.g. look at goddamn whales who in ~10 million years went from mouse deer to giant serpentine marine predators).

Sounds like a comfy layout. And yeah Frontier needs to look into it and fix it, hopefully soon.

I doubt I'll ever attempt that achievement, because Pena is a pain in the ass enough without having mess with hordes of small theropods running amuck every time there's a twister.

Had no clue. Absolutely no idea.
I'll have to give it another try- I genuinely thought if you went over timer you'd be kicked off your island IMMEDIATELY and just flat out lose.

I'd still like random maps though, but with all these updates I'm sure something will come down the line later.

I’ll likely never try the time related achievements because rushing as fast as possible isn’t my style in a sim game. On my most current challenge I’m taking things slow so I can afford to flatten the entire map (Tacano Research Facility so it’s not that much to flatten,) because I want to make a good looking park that runs well and doesn’t have any issues with building placement in the future. That matters to me way more than a cheevo saying I was autistic enough to beat a dinosaur game really really fast. Speedrunning isn’t for me.

Are triceraptors very big and old chameleons?
>Horns
>Beak
>Weird thing on the back of their heads
>Lizard

They were one of the top tiers of the dino meta in their time period. Slow but a very tough and hard to grab nut with a dangerous tail. Still, they're vulnerable when young, get sick, get separated from their group, so not invincible for a determined group of a big predator.

>I doubt I'll ever attempt that achievement,
I wouldn't worry about it too much. By the time you hit the end game (assuming you have all the DLC), you have all the genetic modifiers to change species/population tolerances and tree/grassland requirements, not to mention mood stabilizers. Plus the Success Rate 4.0 and other things. It's not that bad. If you don't have the DLC unlocks ... well, yeah, I could see that being a pretty big problem. I had fun with it, though. Most of the time was spent planning out enclosure populations relative to genetic mods. Looking at every species tolerance for their own species counts and total population counts then adjusting genetics to make it work.

The whole thing was like a math/statistics juggling act.

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>I can afford to flatten the entire map
Oh, good. So I'm not the only that starts the game by flattening the map and clearing all the trees? I also put a path and power-line loop around the outskirts of the buildable area. I build a temporary enclosure with cheap dinos to fund it, then destroy it.

I've got all the content, so that's not a factor. Money is, especially in Jurassic difficulty.

I have a save file for my sandbox stuff with Nublar completely flattened and devoid of plant life so I can jump right into whatever idea for a new park I have.

I know clearing the trees is probably going to be detrimental in the long run since I’m going to be buying new ones but my autismo brain can’t fucking help it. I require a blank canvas.

Spinoraptor is the only good one. The others are retarded. I do love the constant look of suicidal despair apparent on the Stegoeratops though

Some of the things people want can't work with the engine the game uses. Those will hopefully be in Evolution 2.

Don't think of it as detrimental, merely happy little accidents. Of emptiness.

I don't expect it to happen, but I'd still really like to see Aquatic Dinosaurs and Flying Dinosaurs. I don't think Aquatic Dinosaurs are possible, but if there's helicopters why not Pterodactyl Birds, y'know?

They said if they could do it in an expansion they'd be interested in doing it, but if their only option was a "building that was it" they wouldn't do it.

An Ice age animal expansion would also be really neato. I just want more content, more maps, a wide array of prehistory animals- not just Dinosaurs, though I'm happy with all the Dinosaurs.... I WANT A MASSIVE FUCKING SKY AND SEA EXPANSION DAMMNIT,
WITH FISH AND LONG-NECKED PLESIOSAURS, BIG ASS PREHISTORIC FISH WHERE THEY GOT ALL THOSE LEGS, NEWTS- I WANT NEWTS. THE BIG ALLIGATOR-WHALE THING.

I wish ARK wasn't such anti-fun horse shit.

They remind me of the highland cattle. Based but not woolly.

I can't say I've ever ran into a problem with not being able to afford trees. But I also haven't made a decorative park yet (I stopped playing after completing all the jurassic challenges because of burnout). Still, flattening the map is a lot more painful on the wallet than fiddling with the trees.

>I don't think Aquatic Dinosaurs are possible
Not with the engine they've been using for Planet Coast/JWE. They could probably do birds, but it wouldn't really bring your dreams to life. Honestly, I can't think of a way to do that at all. You'd have a glass dome, and maybe be able to drive through it (or ride a gyro) and look up. Kind'a bleh. Same goes for the aquatic idea, though. The problem is how to incorporate it in a way that makes you say 'wow' like some of the land dinos.

It’s not so much that I’m concerned about bankrupting myself over trees, but I know it’s several thousand dollars to get rid of them and then put some back that I wouldn’t have to spend if I just left them as is. The terrain situation though reminds me a lot of the Super Zoo scenario from the OG Zoo Tycoon, that map was nothing but mountains meant to cut into your funds if you wanted to build anything sensible. It was the biggest obstacle in the whole scenario, money wouldn’t be an issue if it was flat.

This. You might be able to easily see the aquatic reptiles if they make the enclosure water clear, but flying reptiles will be inside some kind of obscuring dome. Also imagine how massive those enclosures would need to be to hold a Mosasaurus, Leipleurodon, Quetzacoatlus, etc.

What are the odds they'll actually put in Dinosaur-Period cloned plants?
I like the 'idea' of the greenhouse, but compared to what it is right now vs what I actually want it to be; it just feels like a massive cop-out.

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>massive enclosure
>Liopleurodon
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Liopleurodon was only like 26 feet long. The WWD version is based off of trace fossils from a still undescribed pliosaur species, and even that was pushing the estimations to the absolute limits.

Yeah I was kind of hoping with the new plants you can place being added in the same update as the greenhouse that you’d be able to place the greenhouse plants as decorations too. Logs alone would add so much atmosphere.

Paleobotany was for feeding the dinosaurs, not for aesthetics. I would be nice to have more decoration options involving the ancient plants, though. Giant prehistoric ginkgo trees, patches of fern plants, ancient conifers, etc.

Actually, what I'd really like to see is a feeding option involving marking out an area to have the food plants grow in the enclosure, then the dinosaurs can go into those areas to eat, grazing and browsing on the plants.

And this is the Jurassic franchise where all the animals are oversized. Remember that Velociraptor is only two/three feet tall and Mosasaurus was around forty feet, not the sixty-five foot beast in World or the hundred-foot monster in Fallen Kingdom.

GET IN MAH BELLEH

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I was just surfing the Planet Zoo forums and found this gem. Thanks again, console gamers.

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No. Hybrids are retarded no more

Pena is my favorite island.

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>orange name
So that's from either a dev or community spokesperson. Interesting info there. Most of these devs are really tight-lipped about several issues this guy mentions.

what are some good accurate dino games? as much as i like the jurassic park stuff, the newer more accurate dino depictions are really interesting to me

Okay, this has gone too far. Fuck the "Waaah consoles can't handle this feature!" nonsense, if they can't handle it then they can go without it, don't punish PC players by leaving it out completely.

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It's probably Universal studios' orders.

>Problem is that many dinosaur species are very similar in appearance to each other.

That isn’t the issue the issue is that they try to only use dinos they have existing model rigs for instead of using unique dinos. Iguanodon is the only really unique Dino we have had added in since release with unique eating animations, combat animations and more. We have no small herbivores outside of ornithomimids or pachys when something like mussaurus or dryosaurus would fix that. We have no small sauropods like amargasaurus, dicraeosaurus or vulcandon. We could easily have non dinos canon to the series like dimetrodon or deinosuchus but theyve never done that either. Frontier is just lazy.

It takes a while to make a completely-new skeleton, rig, animations, programming, etc and incorporate it into a game as well as adjusting all the other things in the game to work with it and adding new animations for them. The Iguanodon is a good example, they had to program a new set of animations for all the carnivores it can fight against along with all of its animations. They've also been giving all the new dinosaurs unique animations and behaviors despite sharing a rig. The Nasutoceratops has a lot of unique animations for its fighting and killing opponents as well as unique grazing and intro behaviors.

I don't buy this. Operation Genesis was on Xbox.

Never. Frontier is retarded and can’t even put in basic signs and benches to decorate sidewalks.

Computers were also a lot less powerful back then.

There’s a guy who posts on the frontier forums for JWE that says we shouldn’t have more decorations because “console users use controllers and it hurts their hands placing all of those items”

He needs to be sat on by a Sinoceratops.

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Any mobilefags here that play Jurassic World Alive?

>make a park
>name all the dinosaurs after the characters from Dinosaucers
I'm not sorry.

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I hope we get to pit animals against each other to increase their rating in Planet Zoo. I mean, right? Who'd have a problem with that? Let a Lion and Hippo duke it out. For battle prestige!

This ludacris concept never made sense to me. Why all these Jurassic Park licensed games have dinosaur fighting as a central mechanic. How is that any different than the first paragraph? Because they're not warm and fuzzy? Or because people have never seen them so they don't have any empathy? I still think it's stupid to have them fighting each other on purpose, for achievements, for rank, for whatever. There should be no prize and no benefit to purposefully starting fights.

Is that a copy-paste from that forum thread, or did you write it yourself?

Because the Security and Entertainment division said they needed them to kill each other. For reasons. That they never explain. It just has to be done. Repeatedly.

>There should be no prize and no benefit to purposefully starting fights.
Well, he's not wrong. There's no reason for it. It's downright unreal how often the game's diversity-trio tells you to have dinosaurs kill each other. Why are you spending millions to raise these things just to put them on the dogfighting circuit? "for park security!" doesn't exactly reason out.

Because Science is testing the genetics involved in creating the dinosaurs, Entertainment is giving people a show, Security is studying the way the dinosaurs fight for countermeasures, and Dr. Wu is evil.

I thought JWE was a lot of fun. Not sure why Yea Forums hates it so much but I put my 40 hours in and enjoyed it all.

Why are people complaining about Evolution having dinosaurs able to fight and kill each other? Operation Genesis had it and everyone loved it.

They're just saying it shouldn't be a minigame with rewards. You can't stop fighting. It's how you learn (without looking it up) who gets along with who. But encouraging it is ... well, very American.

to be fair, even the Japanese participated in dogfighting. Akitas are the Japanese equivalent of pitbulls. They were bread for dogfighting.

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It's just a contract like all the rest of them.

This is why you don't fuck the Gallis.

Played for 100 hours. And all DLC. Never did decide if I liked Cabot or not. The 3 division heads were fine. But Claire bugged me because she really over-acted her part. Really unnatural. Guess she isn't used to that kind of work? Dunno.

I liked him. He has this lovable sleezeball personality.

You're welcome ;)

Cabot was pretty funny.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but doesn't Cabot admit in passing in one of his little dialogue blips that he's eaten a couple of the Dinosaurs and thinks they're pretty tasty?

Claire sounded like she was still a bit shell-shocked from the World incident.

About 80% of my PC gamer friends all have consoles of some kind. I have a Switch + PC + 3 boxes of old consoles in a closet. No one really cares who has what. It's just bantz.

Why are there no decent dinosaur hunting games? Closest I can think of is the Hunter: Primal, but I heard it's shit.

All I want is to mount a WW2 antitank rifle on a truck and go to town on some Rexes

JWE is the epitome of executive meddling, it's not so much Frontier incompetence as it is having to run everything through Universal's strict approval.

Turok! No, really, I can't think of anything modern. But if Deer Hunter can get away with it, there's no reason a dino game couldn't pass. Maybe some sort of 'big game hunter' franchise with a fantasy mode.

I wish we got a game where you crash on a deserted island that has been lost to time and you have to shoot dinosaurs and other shit. Like that King Kong game they made in '05.

>He doesn't know about the Carnivores series

I was just thinking about 30 minutes ago that they made a mistake by partnering with Universal. And, honestly, I really don't think they needed the endorsement. They could have done a dino game on their own and had much more freedom and probably just as much success. Maybe? It's not like Frontier is obscure (if so, only because they lost the rights to the name 'Roller Coaster Tycoon'). Or maybe I'm giving their reputation too much credit.

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>JWE is the epitome of executive meddling

That's the one.
They had to make the Spinosaurus and Gigantosaurus smaller and couldn't change their sizes until AFTER the new movie came out.
They weren't allowed to include the classic-style jeeps into the game either due to corporate opinion.

I'd like to think that after the success of Jurassic World Evolution it will hopefully soften them up to the idea of doing something else that's similar or expanding it in a more brauder direction with more extinct animals, etc..

>The tech demo out is primitive
You could even say it's... prehistoric

>They weren't allowed to include the classic-style jeeps into the game either due to corporate opinion.
At least they went back on that one after massive outcry. Also the upcoming JP93 DLC shows that Universal is relaxing its grip, at least somewhat.

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Didn't even know the jeeps weren't in. I played it for the first time this April. The 1993 jeeps are the only ones I use. Thank god they finally got allowed.

I will fucking flay you, you fucking shitheel.

>At least they went back on that one after massive outcry.

They even changed the gait of the Stegosaurus so that it's tail was in the proper position like a grazing herbivore and not the weird low-sweeping lizard posture.
I mean, they did this close to around day 1 of game launch, but it was still nice and it proved they were willing to add changes to the game that were important to the community.

I haven't played recently, but I even heard they added a fish-feeder for the Spinosauruseses.

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What is this.

>but I even heard they added a fish-feeder for the Spinosauruseses
As relatively minor as it is, I love it.

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>The Lost World shows proper Stegosauruses
>Jurassic World made them the outdated droopy-tailed look for no reason
I'll never understand that. At least Frontier did change it back to normal. I also like how, because JP's Velociraptor stole Deinonychus' look, Frontier used the old 1980s idea of how it looked for the game, and the basilisk lizard-style crest and ridge has grown on me too.

>fish feeder
Yep, they added that a while back, along with a Wetland requirement for the four spinosaurids. They'll prefer it over goats and meat feeders if you have both in the same enclosure.

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This thread is dino-myte.

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>dinos
>underwater

I think the raptors in this game look so fucking ugly and bad.
I hate them. I'm not sorry. They're hideous. All the other dinos look amazing and then I have to look at these ugly pieces of shit weird short-muzzled dumb raptors.

>having a non-carnivore as your favorite dino
jesus fucking christ

What else were they supposed to do when the Velociraptor stole Deinonychus' body?

My favorite HERBIVOROUS dinosaur is Stegosaurus.
My favorite CARNIVOROUS dinosaur is Spinosaurus.

What's your favourite OMNIVOROUS dinosaur?

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Could it be Cavemen had all the time to memorize the features of the carcass after a Hunt or maybe even during the Hunt from the adrenaline rush?

Custom Order Maid 3D 2

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This is retarded because Dinosaurs, mostly the Carnivores were incredibly souless creatures. Cannibalism and killing wounded packmates after a failed hunt is recorded in pretty much every carniverous land dinosaur to date.

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Raptors are just bland, though. I mean that's normal. There is no flashiness. Not like they could give them sunglasses or a mohawk or something. It is what it is. I like watching them socialize, by the way. That's really pretty cool to see 5 in a circle barking at each other.

Carnivores taste bad.

This, and their meat is probably overflowing with parasites and self inflicting diseases from being cannibals.

Outside of the porn, is it fun?

>Raptors are just bland, though.
not that i give a shit about the raptors but most people are upset that they dont have any good skins like the tiger skin raptors from the lost world, the quilled raptors from JP3 or any of the new raptors from the JW raptor pack.

instead they have really boring skins. this is probably because they will eventually release a raptor skin pack and charge money for it or tie it into a dlc like the rumored '93 dlc coming out in december.

Just letting you guys know that back during the Xbox or X360 Microsoft show off a Dinosaurs hunting game call Dinosaurs Hunter, I think it was gonna me like Monster Hunter. Anyway just like Microsoft today, they can the project.

it blows my mind how much PlanetZoo will have at release that JWE still doesnt have a year after release

PZ will have:

>buildings that people actually go inside
>park decor like benches, trash cans, various signs to display info about the animals or directions
>bathrooms
>better terrain tools with proper depth for water
>more terrain paints and natural decor
>animals that age from babies to adults
>more gameplay mechanics for making enclosures like temperature control (heaters/water sprinklers/snow machines)

what else am i missing?

God this brings back Operation Genesis memories and how I lost a four and a half star park

how dynamic the shit that animals can climb on is blows my fucking mind. i'd be fine with just a canned animation of a raptor jumping on a rock or scratching itself on a tree at this point in jwe. just little details to help make the dinosaurs feel more alive.

If they were going to do that they would have done it long ago. Their bland non-movie skins are yet another Universal mandate.

>how dynamic the shit that animals can climb on is blows my fucking mind.

It really burns my ass that the Dinosaurs in Jurassic World Evolution don't 'play' with each other or have any kind of meanginful interactions with their environment or each other beyond just moving around and killing each other.

Ceratops and Pacchy's don't buttheads and most Dinos don't really 'herd' properly.

>planet zoo looks pretty nice
>didn't like planet coaster much
I want to believe, but.

the bitch of it is it's not even something that would be impossible to add during this period of development. just some variations in animation for the activities they already have and add some new ones that trigger randomly. it's nice and all that newer dinosaurs in the dlc packs get unique animations but i shouldn't have to shell out 5 bucks to not see a large carnivore perform the same eating animation, just spice it up for everyone, what the hell is the animation team even doing at this point, let them go nuts. and fuck dude maybe just add some dinosaur toys because at least that's something else to add variation.

It isn't even out of the possibility for them to add entirely new behavior coding for animals. Zoo Tycoon 2 added entirely new herding mechanics to all of its herd animals with African Adventure.

they've done it in the past when they added similar herding mechanics, so i don't know what the holdup is. i hope something along these lines comes with the free update that'll ship with the 93 pack.

best dino when

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my assumption is that they released a game that was real early in development so that they could have it release content in line with the new movies (FK update) and hide their development under the guise of "Free updates".

I would totally be fine with this if it wasnt for the fact they only release said updates along big dlcs which they only do on a quarterly basis meaning that shit that could be and should be in right now is just being slowly fed to us through an IV.

Fuck just give me some benches and signs to put in my park. I shouldnt have to wait another year for something so simple because marketers want to generate new sales with hype.

Universal did want the game released to coincide with Fallen Kingdom's release, Frontier wasn't even given a full two years to make the game.

Needs more feathers.

We heard you the first six times.

>Universal did want the game released to coincide with Fallen Kingdom's release, Frontier wasn't even given a full two years to make the game.

exactly, however there should be far more in the game by now. Im fine waiting four months for a big dlc like claire's dlc but not fine waiting four (or in this case six) months for a couple trees and rocks. dont get me wrong the free update with the natural decor to me is by far the most important thing they have added in and I love it, they should have added it in sooner and with more stuff.

How big is Frontier and how many other games are they working on? I doubt they have a big bunch of people working on Evolution.

youtube.com/watch?v=YPNPb0WRl9s
Dino crisis with mechs whould be fun.

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>The carnivores are extremely overpowered
T-rex run like a sloth and only good at ambushes.

You mean the six other anons?

How does it do mating?

No, don't bother. KISS dropped the ball on that one. The translation is pretty bad. Not quite machine-bad. But chinese-sweatshop bad. Really rocky.

Carefully

>How does it do mating?

That remains one of the big dino mysteries we still haven't really solved:
"How did animals like T-rexes and Stegosauruses fuck?"

With its penis and vagina.

They are pretty big company with dedicated teams for each game they are working on (elite dangerous, planet coaster, other shit i dont care about). one of their excuses as to why PZ looks so much better than JWE is that its a different team of people working on that project which honestly makes them look worse.

I wish Ark wasn't so difficult to play

I love my dino and paleo bros

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That's really not one of the things you want to say about why your games have differing quality levels.

Ark, isn't that the game that's got a shitload of different monsters and animals and things in it that you can tame and level up, including Zilla and Legendary Godzilla?

The problem is that they've built the game around 300 man chink autism clans pvping against 300 man chink autism clans, rather than being a fun game.

I feel you. I used to love traveling with my Paracer caravan around the map hunting and what not until the game became a huge clusterfuck.

can you build an arena in this game and make the dinosaurs fight

ya actually

Oh yeah, and there's a lot of videos of it.

youtube.com/watch?v=VNnwjvWw8to

can you introduce humans into the arena for a laugh

You can build an arena around them and they'll be trapped until they die.

is it gory

im hoping the future you will be able to have paths go through a gate so you can lock people in. right now its kind of hard to do that.

Of course not, this isn't a gore game.

hes being a feather?

lame

Is there any way to play/obtain Operation Genesis anymore? I thought the technological age would preserve everything

PRetty sure there's downloads of it in various places. Can also try amazon.

I wish we could get a good Kaiju brawler game. I want a large city to battle in with the camera panned behind the monsters back.

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>tfw we will never get another Godzilla fighting game in the style of the Pipeworks trilogy that has all the monsters in Wii Unleashed along with Gabara, Kamakuras, Kumonga, Ebirah, Zilla, Desghidorah, Monster X/Keizer Ghidorah, Legendary Godzilla, the MUTOs, Legendary Rodan, Legendary Mothra, Legendary King Ghidorah, and Kong

>kaiju brawler like how they move in the movies, you can even alter gameplay speeds in options like you could in street fighter
>city destructibility like red faction guerilla or what crackdown 3 was promising
>all with amazing graphics

Holy fuck I'd be complete. Make it fucking happen already damn.

>And a whole lot more

>nudge nudge wink wink

>this is one of the rumored upcoming dinosaurs
If we hadn't just gotten the Nasutoceratops I'd be more excited, even if that one was a promo for "Battle at Big Rock".

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>Pachyrhinosaurus
Good taste. I love their molar-shaped horn, Ceratops always have such amazing and interesting horns.

My favorite Dinosaur, Iguanodon, was already added a while ago, so I've been satisfied with the roster for ages now.
Every new Dinosaur now is just icing on the cake. I was shocked Proceratosaurus got in- she's a literal who I happen to like as well. I'd SHIT though if they added Oviraptor.

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All three of the DLC small theropods took me by surprise, especially Poceratosaurus and ESPECIALLY Herrerasaurus, the only Triassic dinosaur so far, which has gotten my hopes up that we could get Coelophysis, Plateosaurus, and Mussaurus in the future. So far I've been happy with the DLC choices, it's great seeing more Operation Genesis dinosaurs returning and I enjoy the hybrids. But with the prospect of Charonosaurus it's feeling like Frontier is starting to run out of dinosaurs they're allowed to add or something.

When?

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I'm a fan of them. Sure, the carnivore hybrids are mostly ridiculous movie monsters hell-bent of murdering people, but a whole bunch of the random hybrids across all the newer JW games are pretty neat.

I want a Diorajasaurus in every JW game from now on, that thing is so fucking retarded that I love it.

Soon, I really fucking hope. A smaller sauropod would be cool and Amargasaurus looks awesome.

With guns and helicopters?

>Huge sauropod with white colors
>Dunkleosteus with gargoyle head
>That weird ass mosasaur between the kraken and the giant fish
What the hell are those? I don't recognize them.

youtube.com/watch?v=udAxhJXzhNI

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>How do you feel about the three hybrid dinosaurs they introduced in the Dr. Wu DLc

I like the Tricerastego and the Raptorspino, but the Long-Neck hybrid is ugly and dumb and I don't like it at all, lel.

>and would you be okay with any more hybrids in the future?

I'd be 100% in favor of more hybrids so long as they keep on churning out the actual Dinosaurs. Like, not just Dinosaurs, but other prehistoric Dinosaur-time animals like Dimetrodons and Giant Newts, y'know?
I also want to see Dinosaur-Period Plants and so forth, but that's only marginally related.

Is this game good yet?

Shareholders didn't like the feathers, so they were SCIENCE'd out.

It's Jurassic Park/World, were not getting any mammals or other ancient life except marine reptiles and pterosaurs in JWE2.

Okay, but what if Dimetrodons?
Aren't Dimetrodons technically mammals? Like, a primitive mammal, but we're on the same path or something?

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Dimetrodons were synapsids, not mammals.
They weren't extremely close to mammals, even by synapsid standards.

>tfw wife left me for a neanderthal

Ankylodocus fucking sucks and should have been that one real sauropod with a tail club, I think it was Shunosaurus?

So you're saying it couldn't support 20% of it's own weight? That's like saying a car can't carry 400 pounds of stuff.

Agreed, replace Ankylodocus with Shunosaurus and put in the Paramoloch in its place.

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One was in the museum in Jurassic World 2, implying it was one of the animals cloned back from extinction.
The Kenner toyline also had a lot of synapsids.

Titanosaurus, a Siege dinosaurs outclassed by power creep dlcs
Dunkleosteus, a water mount for gathering oil and metal
Mosasaur, a mobile sea base

fuuuuuck you just made me remember these. I probably still have Armadon and Diablo in my mom's garage. I remember I wanted the Sabretooth so bad but never got him

I had no idea there were SUPER versions of them.

youtube.com/watch?v=fyzNFck7x7M

I hope I can find them all.

I vaguely recall he admits to trying some Edmontosaurus steak and noting that the T. Rex has good taste

>108 hours
You are like little baby.
T. Like 300 hours and all cheevos on steam, and idk how many hours + platinum on ps4
Still, nice work on the 100%

The 1993 pack, according to the entirely accurate leak thus far will allegedly have (basic) aviaries.
Fuckin’ stoked.

>Third one is Chaos Effect

Are you also playing The Isle?

There’s a good chance that mussaurus will be in the next Dino pack. With almost a 95% certainty there will be an herbivore pack this month with pachyrhinosaurus, charonosaurus and hopefully mussaurus. The first two are already in the game files and mussaurus is a little speculative to be honest. I can even remember where that speculation came from but I hope it’s true.

Considering we know pachyrhino is already in the game files I’m curious to see how it will look. The design for JWFKs sinoceratops was originally supposed to be a pachyrhinosaurus but for some reason they changed it into the sino at the last minute. The change was made so late there even is a toy labeled as sinoceratops but it’s really a pachyrhino complete with a boss instead of a horn.

Weird attempt to appeal to the Chinese market? It is from China

that's what i was thinking. but why not pick a better known chineese dinosaur right from the get go? i have a feeling they meant to use pachyrhino specifically because it has rhino in its name and is sort of similar to them and wanted to use it as a means to raise awareness for the animal. they then realized that it wouldnt make sense since it doesnt really have a horn so they chose sinoceratops specifically to get chinks to latch onto the dinosaur and possibly by extension rhinos so they will stop killing them for magic penis pills.

i know that sounds crazy but im pretty sure there is official JW material out there that supports this.

>tfw you want this game but the price point is asking for too much
>not even the cracked version has all the dlcs

Neat, started to play JWE yesterday and this thread comes out.

Any tip I need to know as new player in JWE?

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This game is very wholesome. We need more dino threads.

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Fuck can they just give us the next dlc already

cool dog

KOFF
KOFF

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True.

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Dinosaurs didn't look like that.

imgur.com/gallery/cq1hB

They probably looked like modern animals just in diferent shapes, fur and all.

>one of their excuses as to why PZ looks so much better than JWE is that its a different team of people working on that project which honestly makes them look worse.

Planet Zoo is a PC exclusive. It is not held back by console limitations the way Jurassic World Evolution is (to those that don't know, JWE was indeed on current gen consoles. I imagine Universal had something to do with that). That is why it so looks so much better and why JWE feels stripped down in both graphics and gameplay.

>he got 100% in 1/3 the time it took you
>calling him a little baby
Um.

see
all really good advice for a newcomer since the star rating system can be a bit confusing at first. also, the picture here
note how the fence wraps around the hotel right next to it, with an outer wall further out. this ensures there's dinos all over the hotel viewing area. once in game, you'll be thinking "measuring that is a pain in the ass" because you can't have the Viewing overlay displayed at the same time as fence building. There's 2 ways to remedy that. 1.) start a fence dead center of where your hotel will be, then go 2 "fence lengths" out. fences will stretch about 40 meters before the game stops you, so 2 fence lengths is about 80 meters. Then make 5 or 6 more in all different directions. Then connect the outer edges with another fence and erase the the guide fences you made (the 'spokes'). If the hotel is already up, do 1 fence length starting at the edge of the hotel in all directions, and connect them same as before. That will get you damn near perfectly around the viewing area with no wasted space.

They still haven't decided if they're cold blooded or warm blooded, which is a key factor in whether or not they have fur. Cold blooded animals warm up by basking in the sunlight. Fur would be counter-productive to that. There are no cold-blooded animals with fur (in current existence, anyway) for that reason.

Cold-blooded animals have interesting other behaviors, when considered in relation to dinosaurs. Brumation, for example. It's like hybernation. When it gets cold, a snake (or amphibian or whatever) will shut-down most of it's bodily functions for 4-6 months. No food, no water, no moving. Many beginning snake owners panic when their snake stops eating for months on end because of that. But, now think about dinosaurs ... Where are dinosaurs going to safely 'shut down' at? Not like they can hide in a hole. I mean, not that they'd be easy prey regardless, but they'd still need protection from the freezing cold. Snakes don't just brumate out in the open, exposed to the elements.

Pretty interesting stuff, really.

Ancient wojac

They were both, just like our modern ecosystem. Or so recent research says. Different animals, different blood temps.

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They would look like a 7 ft turkey.

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No feathers.

WHEN ARE THEY ADDING DEINOSUCHUS TO THE ISLE

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But they're birds

Not by that time, they are not birds.

They were supposedly "meso-thermic" (as opposed to ecto-thermic, or cold-blooded. or endo-thermic, which is warm-blooded). They sit in the middle. And this isn't a new classification. There are other meso-thermic animals still in existence today (some types of tuna, shark, ant-eater, and turtle). Or so they say.

I have a problem with the idea that all dinosaurs used the same size battery, though. The idea is pretty stupid. That's like saying all current animals were 1 blood type. The study that came to that conclusion used rapid-bone-growth as an indicator of blood temperture and it only studied 26 species of dinosaur and compared it to 300 still-living animal species. That's a pretty narrow sample. We still have a lot of research to do.

sorry, I checked, and my numbers were wrong. It was 21 species vs. 381.

>For this paper, the scientists decided to perform a metabolic census of sorts. They compared the growth rate, adult size and metabolism of 381 vertebrate species, living and extinct, including 21 dinosaur species. The idea was that the higher the growth rate, the higher the animal’s rate of metabolism would probably be. And higher metabolisms would probably tend to be endothermic, warm-blooded systems.

>Sure enough, they found that high growth rates seemed to match up with the higher metabolisms of warm-blooded animals, whereas lower growth rates were linked to the lower metabolic rates of cold-blooded animals. The dinosaurs seemed to sit right in the middle, overlapping with some endothermic and some ectothermic animals. The scientists aptly called them “mesotherms” (“meso” basically means “middle” in Greek.)

more info here
nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2014/06/12/dinosaurs-tuna-great-whites-echidnas/

>5 legs
yes, superb attention to detail

check out the looks of pure glee on the faces of the horses too

>Evolution tries to benefit each species as much as possible
evolution doesn't try anything at all
do you think water tries to flow downhill? as if water can think?

natural forces control everything, natural forces shape everything, that's why you get long necked dinosaurs and long necked giraffes despite them being totally unrelated genetically
evolution is bogus, it's not random, the universe is governed by math and math is predictable

and I know exactly what you sciencefags are going to say next

and no, I'm not religious

Just go and rewatch Walking With Dinosaurs.

heeeheeeheeee

I had a yellow toy exactly like that one but i dont remember it being from primal rage.

what you gonna do?
get up and chase us? lmao

This
The chink menace ruined another game. When ark started out it was fun

Junk DNA is a thing, though past research on it vastly overstated just how much of our DNA is non-coding junk it's a practical guarantee that there's some parts that just plain don't do anything and have just been grandfathered (dohohoho) into the structure of whatever strand they inhabit

Was the Spinosaurus the biggest, landbased carnivore?

nah, ur mum is

Imagine Dino Crisis and Dino Crisis 2 remake

Holy fuck guys i wish it wasnt a forgotten series so capcom would do it.

>the underwater part in dino crisis 2 with REmake 2 graphics

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Game:
>set in near future
>comet on a collision course with Earth
>international effort to deflect it using a railgun/pulse canon (because lol cant use nukes in space - even if it means end of humanity)
>success
>instead it hits Venus
>oops
>now Venus has a spin, cools down, the whole thing is equivalent to rapid terraformation
>some years pass
>clean planet with somewhat dense atmosphere and fertile ground
>still seismic activity going on, but reminiscent of terran one
>someone decides "lets do a life-seeding project" and seed it with dinos because why not
>someone agrees with that
>yay, we have Jurassic Park on Venus
>can colonise Venus too - closer than mars and much more habitable (thanks Universe for that comet)
>in a span of several decades - thriving ecosystem and a colony - industry is orgasming from abundance of resources, ecologist orgasm from ecosystem, tourists orgasm from safari
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - religious nuts throwing a fucking hissyfit - DONT PLAY GODS, NUKE VENUS NOW
>sane people and terran government tell them to fuck off and keep their hands to themselves
>lol no
>a fucking massive war starts
>religious fanatic united vs rest of humanity
>crazies cripple spaceports, blow up a supply rockets to venus, two orbitals stations destroyed, communications severed
>venusian colonies have to fend for themselves
>dinos multiplying fucking real fast
>industrial output dramaticaly lowers due to several volcanic eruption that destroy processing facilities
>colonists have limited resources and have to fend off growing dino numbers
How about it? Nice setting for the game, yes?
First Person ARPG - best stuff from New Vegas, STALKER, Far Cry 3, Red Faction Guerilla, Turok etc.
>goal: construct rockets to ship stuff to orbit to re-establish comms with Terra (Earth)
>issues: survival in general, transportation of supplies through hostile terrain

Are all these on The Island map? Multiplayer only?

Alright, thanks for the info.

This.