I didn't get to finish my post and I wrote to much garbage to just let it go to waste.
Your feats are ridiculous, only two of them actively help you with combat, and one of those does nothing after the first turn, while the other one adds piddly damage until you're a high level. Of course you're getting your ass handed to you. Initiative doesn't really matter if you can't kill enough guys in the first turn to live through the survivors attacks. Your skills are also all over the place and probably even more of a mess depending on what the ones not shown are at. Don't bother putting points into dodge and evasion if you're not going to max them out every level, and even if you do they're not that great. Focus on 8 skills you want, this game chews up jack of all trades builds. That's why you get enough points to max out 8 at the start and at every level. On normal you can probably do 9 or 10 skills if you just put a bit into the extras during the start and then go back to pumping your main ones, cuz some skills you don't really need to max out, like throwing for example.
That's the problem, they're all only "kinda useful" instead of "really useful." You need some combat feats so you can actually kill stuff and stay alive. Your run is probably bunk just because of how bad your feats are, and it's only going to get worse as you progress until you get a handful of combat feats.
Honestly I'd start over and get stuff that helps you murder things and stay alive. At the very least you could get paranoia, which basically does what snooping and trigger happy do ontop of reducing your chance to get hit by crits. Then you can replace the other crap with shit like aimed shot, or suppressive fire, or whatever.
The idea is to carry a full tungsten set, armour, boots and helmet, have whopping mechanical defenses to become fucking unstopable, you're very fucking hard to kill with high resistances, high shields, 10 CON, conditioning, sprint, thick skull, land stand, fast metabolism, throw in stoicism if you want to Once you got 7 Will, get Force User and Corporeal projection, learn Tele Proxy. Now, by that time you will hit like a cargo train with no brakes with your hammer, but by the chance you cannot hammer your problems away, you also hit like a cargo train with proxy punch combo
However, there are problems Using all Tungsten means, while you will be fucking tanky, you will have 95% Armour Penalty at all times, this means 0 movement points and minimum dodge/evasion/stealth, you will be slow as a rock, to compensate for this you will need Sprint, which will give you free movement points for 2 turns that is not negated by AP. The other issue is that 3 INT gives some considerable penalties. Crafting penalties. 3 INT will reduce your crafting skills, so it will make it difficulty for you to craft yourself nice gear, while crafting is a must, only homemade gear will make you survive, this is why you keep mechanics maxed out every level, also dont neglect tailoring and electronics However, after you complete an oligarch questline in Core City, you will get your own house, which you will able to buy workbenches that boost crafting skills, negating the 3 INT penalty somewhat, also there's a drug called 'Hyper cerebrix' that gives 2 INT boost for a bunch of seconds, as well Under Pie that boost all skills upon consumption, this includes crafting skills
Pros: Hit hard both with hammer and magic, tanky as fuck, hard to bring down Cons: Very slow movement, bad middle game due INT crafting penalties, thought controllers will make your life impossible
Ayden Murphy
definitely apples
Benjamin Smith
This game is so mothafuckin' cocksuckin' gay. You can't even fuckin' run in a game from 2019, give me a mothafuckin' break, bitch. Fuckin' Russian faggots. > having to speed up the entire game to walk faster > 2019 Fuck off, morons.
Can pistols carry you into the endgame or do they crap out in midgame like in Wasteland?
Nolan Thompson
dominating!
Grayson Morris
How did you guys deal with dominating silent isle? the rat hounds near the entrance make it hard to set up traps and i cant fight them without drawing in the goliathus and getting boatbro killed.
Levi Perez
energy? yes boolet? lol
Mason Adams
>turn the scrap into repair kits >you are now less overweight
Lucas Johnson
Turn them into repair kits dumbo
Brandon Hall
Pistols are garbage unless you're using energy or chemical ones I'm told
Normal pistols cost so much AP to use if they do any damage worth mentioning, they have small magazines, and you can't burst with them.
Henry Gutierrez
Is the plot too serious? I might want to change my name or i'm going to have a giggle every now and then.
If I want crafting to be reliable do I need to buy materials?
Jeremiah Diaz
You don't need to, in theory, since you can just find/steal a lot of shit but you're fucking yourself over by not buying high quality parts
Ayden White
Yes, sometimes, depending on what you're making, but they're pretty cheap most of the time and you're going to have a lot of money eventually anyway. If you're perpetually broke you're probably doing something really wrong.
Luis Bailey
Yes and the quality of materials actually increases with your semitism skill. If you don't fully level your crafting skills it's actually kinda possible to fuck yourself over and have merchants sell mostly stuff that is too good for you to use.
Evan Baker
My own version of hammer wizard is a pure psychokinesis user, no TC nor TM at all, and the idea of the build is to outlive your enemies and recieve all the attacks and dish it back
Isaiah Allen
I like how since release Mercantile took a 180 in usefulness.
Camden Martinez
Merchants who buy and sell guns should have some melee weapons on them but usually knifes and hammers. You can check in Camp Hathor they should have more melee weapons, but im not sure about that.
Cooper Cox
I heard that Mercantile (aside from dialogue checks) raises the median quality of the items that merchants sell, is it true?
Robert Bailey
Yay they are fun and versatile but robots will be hard on you and you need grenades and/or traps do deal with crowds.
Jaxson Brooks
going for heavy armor shotgun/sniper rifle what am i in for?
mainly because the stats requirements are the same as shotgun. My main idea is to just tank myself up and blast shotgun to the face
Owen Adams
kys stealthoid
Jacob Miller
>SNIPE >Grants you a special attack with a crossbow or a sniper rifle that deals 225% weapon damage plus additional 1% damage per stealth skill point. Can only be used in stealth.
Liam Wright
help I'm melting in acid and basically out of healing items
>gray army base >can't lockpick the door to get the quest keycard >can't past the persuasion check with the officers >don't have sneaking Am i fucked? Do i have to genocide all these russian faggots?
Camden Reed
Well I just beat the mutant place with this shit build so I'll keep going.
Can't stop me!
Bentley Gomez
I wish I could leave too but it looks like this is my new home now.
These sentry bots are harshing my mellow can I make a bum shocker fist weapon?
Benjamin Thompson
Can't you rise your str along the way though?
Zachary Miller
>Am i fucked? Very. >Do i have to genocide all these russian faggots? You think this is going to be easy when the lights go out and the spec ops squad gets on your sorry ass, blyat?
Adrian Moore
Good Game
Noah Morales
Yeah, maybe by level 16 you'll be able to finally wear some passable heavy armor.
Zachary Allen
Godspeed, lad. You'll learn more from this experience in the long run. Persevere long enough and your next time will be quite different.
Eli King
You'll find metal armor you can buy hours before you'll be able to wear it if you start out with that little strength.
Adrian White
Should i dump int as well then?
Josiah Richardson
>Wasteland the one from 1988? Is it worth playing?
David Scott
Can you at least hack?
Hunter Ross
Is it possible to get through the game in a satisfying way with blind builds or do I need to spreadsheet this shit before I even hit new game.
Angel Phillips
I don't like collectathons, will I have to go out of my way to collect oddities or can I just loot barrels along the way and keep pace?
There's an exploit you can use. Make sure you're disguised, manually enter combat, pop sprint and adrenaline shot, then run straight past NPCs. It skips the enforced dialogue and shouldn't actually aggro the guys provided they don't see you entering restricted areas. If you're at the point where I think you are, you should do what I said and run behind a pillar to break line of sight when you exit combat.
Kayden Fisher
yes
Logan Green
you should be looting everything like an autist anyways tbqh
Luis Morales
You're going to end up getting lost and backtracking and finding oddities in dumb places whether you like it or not. A lot of them drop from enemies, too.
Andrew Davis
That’s what I have been doing except I’ve been avoiding stuff that’s really out of the way and also skipping locked boxes if I don’t have the lockpicks to open them
John Parker
Look nigga, people have been playing RPGs harder than this completely blind since decades, just play the fucking game and stop worrying about failure before you even do anything.
Nathan Jones
Hard mode is very punishing and the highest difficulty is like a challenge mode the dev made without knowing if it'd be possible to complete and a lot of the posts you see from veterans are geared towards that. If you're just running through on normal you shouldn't sweat it that much but it pays to check out the requirements for the feats/weapons you want in advance. Worst case scenario you'll learn the experience and reroll with something stronger.
Matthew White
Become a spy Unleash your inner Solid Snake
Carter Morgan
Just buy lockpicks user they're cheap as fuck from Old Jonas and ~100 is more than you'll ever need
Grayson Thompson
There are very few oddities that can't be maxed without opening locked containers, so that isn't going to be a problem.
Zachary Harris
Hey, brand new player here, I saw a really fun looking build for a chemist pistol? However I think it's out of date as the base feats and skills aren't available at the start of the game.
Can someone give me a build to give me a chemical pistol? With starting stats and skills?
Would be much appreciated, thank you!
Joshua Johnson
I wouldn't suggest a blind build, I'd suggest getting an idea of a build. If you're used to some other RPGs where you can be a stealth hacker lockpicker heavy armor sniper melee guy and you try to do that you'll just end up eating shit 3 or 4 hours in and get stuck with no recourse. On normal you can make mistakes with your build and be fine as long as you're not trying to do everything and getting totally worthless feats.
You can level up 8 skills to max, to give you an idea of what you can do with your build. Not everything needs to be leveled up to max to be useful.
Landon Torres
hey hey people
Josiah Hill
How do I destroy these damn rocks blocking my way? Apparently I should get explosives but my grenades do nothing.
Nathan Smith
TNT Or Jackhammers
Cooper Taylor
Where do you find builds? Forums are half filled with "gib build plx" and the other half with "very gud build, need to be eleet at game to work, not for new players". I just want something that works and gives me an idea on how to make my own builds.
Benjamin Brooks
just read the fucking feat descriptions, it's all there, make a damn spreadsheet
Parker Gutierrez
Seriously tho, why does all newcomers need builds? I mean, when I was new, I just asked about some mechanics, explained feats and gave me some simplistic guidance, but my 'build' is something I came up with my own, fast foward and I'm about to win the game on DOMINATING Yet why almost all new players are begging for cookie cutter builds, instead of being adviced on what they like, want to do and what they -can- do?
I know, zoom zoom, but you cannot just throw a tin can AR build to everybody, specially since it's fairly boring
Aaron Turner
Can you reinforce super steel with tungsten or is it a same steel kind of deal?
Parker Ortiz
Well I posted my build and got laughed at so it makes sense.
Henry Morris
Because people nowadays are terrified of actually playing a game for the sake of playing it, discover it and having fun, they play because others do it or because they need something to talk or brag about, see how Sseth's video made sales explode. And it's not really a matter of being underaged, it's just the casual mentality that is slowly turning games into a second job rather than games, opening up online spreadsheets to find what's optimal and play another person's playthrough because who gives a damn about videogames and learning something or using your brain?
Nathaniel Hernandez
No, Super Steel and Tungsten are different kind of metals that cannot be mixed However, you can reinforced metal armours with different kind of metal plates
Is a short barrel and a choke better than a long barrel and no choke for a shotgun? Or should I just do short without a choke?
Jeremiah Butler
>Can you reinforce super steel with tungsten No, Super Steel can be turn into fiber or sheets though. Fiber can be used to infuse leathers to give them additional properties and raise their original quality a bit while sheets work as ballistic armor parts, which is useful for Riot Gear and the likes.
Connor Jenkins
choke sucks lol just use a foregrip
Elijah Reed
>Level 24 >Still 0 energy edge emitters
pls help
Jackson Gomez
Is it smart to keep leveling every crafting skill?
Henry Rogers
Choke is pointless to begin with because it lowers your attack and spread, ignore choke and just get an extension tube or a foregrip if you use combat shotties.
Samuel Hughes
underrail info tm/build/?AQMIBgMKAwcPDwAAAAAPDw8AAAAADwAAAAAAAA8ADzkm378
Raise dexterity to 10 and then max perception. Opportunist and pack rathound are both feats you want. Pick up grenadier as soon as you can, get the initiative feats if you're dying too much and then go in hard on crafting / chem pistol feats after depot a. i wouldnt be entertaining it if i wasnt bored waiting for these beetles to wander off
Christian Morgan
>Picked this game up again after dropping it a year ago after depot A >Made a new character, did the exact same thing
I don't know why, I just can't seem to find a thing to do and stick to it once the game opens up. I'm not used to games not holding my hands like i'm a special needs child, I guess.
I just saw sseths video and bought it yesterday, starting now, I hope it's a fun game
Aaron Martin
some guy in another thread was screeching on how his build didn't allow him to do something and when told that's how RPGs worked he went ape shit and how it deprived him of 100% completing the game, you might be on to something.
Kayden Miller
its shit we only play it ironically
Caleb Roberts
How fucked am i going to get on hard if i try some sort of a crossbow or shotgun build? Haven't watched anything about the new expansion. Are shotguns widespread enough or do i have to go to the dlc area to get one?
Samuel Perez
>he got bamboozled into buying it lol get pranked nerd but seriously you better be autistic because this game is autismo at its finest.
His video blew up the steam page for the game because he has a large audience and he makes every game he does a video about look fun due to his story telling and dumb jokes, not because people only play a game because other people are. It's very possible for a new player to get 10 or 15 hours in and then get blown up indefinitely, and some people don't want to replay an entire campaign from the start just because their build can't accomplish dick and they're stuck at some spot with no recourse.
Jack Taylor
they're accessible enough in the main game. good luck getting ammo though if you're doing combat shotguns
Nathaniel Carter
I bought this on impulse last night after seeing so many threads on Yea Forums. I haven't even launched it yet. If you had to give just one tip to a new player, what would it be?
Caleb King
>First time on hard Jack, dont be stupid, swallow your pride and start on normal, after you feel confident, start on hard, after you won the game once, start on DOMINATING
Camden Campbell
can't you craft ammo? or was that just crossbow bolts?
Wyatt Anderson
What’s the Persuasion requirement to get a different weapon at the start? Is it even worth the point investment?
Dylan Hernandez
Man, I thought the game was going to be over soon after the faceless invade the institute. Fuck crawlers, fuck robots, fuck coil spiders, and fuck tchortists
>ome people don't want to replay an entire campaign from the start just because their build can't accomplish dick and they're stuck at some spot with no recourse. Yes, they're called casuals.
Jaxon Morgan
Around 15 Dont wear rathound leather gear while persuading since it reduces Persuation
Justin Parker
I was thinking about a choke because I noticed that a lot of my pellets miss even up close in melee range, so a tighter spread would help me kill individual guys faster. 20p can miss as many as 8 pellets fairly often and 12p misses 3 or 4 a lot too.
Adam Thomas
>However, you can reinforced metal armours with different kind of metal plates That's what I meant.
Bentley Torres
Core City after depot A If a tin can, Foundry first
Samuel Morris
I played through the basegame a few years back on normal with a pussybitch stealthsniper build. Just sneaked around all the hard looking fights and ended up oneshotting the last boss
Nolan Wilson
And?
Wyatt Ramirez
What do you mean tin can?
Justin Allen
Then yes, you can. Remenber every metal plates has different stats, so experiment.
Colton Long
Just got finished shopping with Harlan and he had three of them
Stealth is definitely extremely useful for a new player. Won't stop you from getting raped by crawlers, however.
Xavier Walker
'Tin can' is a slang for Metal Armour wearers. Also to lesser extend, it's also applied to Protectorade soldiers, since almost all of them wear metal armours.
Isaiah Young
Ah, fair enough then. Core it is.
Hunter Allen
Play as a spear wizard.
Benjamin Jones
Pure wizards only Hybrids go home
Bentley James
Play the game on normal with whatever the fuck build you want, get familiar with the mechanics for a bit, get stuck, read wiki, open build creator, plan out, restart and be a better man
Owen Torres
it can't seriously be coretech only. I'm maxed mercantile now and still nothing
William Garcia
Is DOMINATING just reloading a lot to try and get favorable outcomes?
Gabriel Edwards
is there a multiple ending powerpoint when you finish the game?
You fundamentally misunderstand how shotguns are designed. First off, shotties are for multitarget purposes, so if you use a shottie for single target damage you're already playing it wrong because there's plenty of weapons that effortlessly outdamage shotties on single target damage outside of some rare exceptions where shotties with tungsten shells might be better than other weapons, even sixth shell as good as it is doesn't lead to high single target damage compared to the output of AR or energy guns. Secondly, "melee range" is often misunderstood, you're not supposed to literally hug people and shoot, most of your pellets will miss that way, always keep at the very least one tile of distance between you and the target, two tiles are the ideal distance given how you'll want to spread your pellets as much as possible, especially in the case of burrowers and spawns, a carefully placed 20P can clear out seven to eight spawns easily in a single shot for instance, basically, shotguns have a dead zone you have to consider and since the game doesn't show you your effective AoE cone you'll have to get used to it and make educated guesses. Lastly, bear in mind that even with leading shot, your shottie's accuracy will ALWAYS cap at around 70-75%, this is not something you can get around, choke is essentially a soft and much shittier leading shot, so if you want more accuracy(You don't need really it, just mind the gap as the brits say) invest into Leading Shot and forget about chokes entirely. This game isn't really made for casuals and catering to them and feeding their bad habits is always a bad idea.
Zachary Turner
If you do that then you're not prepared for DOMINATING Although it can happen from time to time
Henry Nelson
>not playing a hybrid It's like you hate fun, pipeworker.
Aiden Gutierrez
Yeah, although the main quest itself has only one outcome with very minor variation.
Isaac Peterson
Eh, my leather armor has about the same mechanical resistance.
Mostly, yes. Bear in mind Dominating is officially a meme difficulty setting, so don't take it too seriously. It's not at all impossible, but it's incredibly tedious and a lot of stuff straight up doesn't work anymore on Dominating.
Ayden Bennett
Which is better, hybrid melee or hybrid with guns?
Hybrid with melee makes no sense if you're not going psi monk and is cheese if you're doing it with a weapon. Hybrid with guns fits because of the whole psientist deal.
Blake Evans
If you're looking for sheer sturdiness and tankiness, get yourself a Tungsten armour and cramp all the Tungsten reinforcing plates you can However, I must warn you, it's quite fucking heavy so I hope you got high STR
Joshua Clark
Guns are generally more fun unless you REALLY like being a caveman.
Leo Walker
Nikolai or Kolya here kind of btfo'd that build with his pure unarmed boi.
William Hall
>This game isn't really made for casuals and catering to them and feeding their bad habits is always a bad idea.
Casuals who aren't given advice on how to play a difficult game will become casuals that complain the game is too hard, which the industry caters to. You're not shunning them and keeping them from tainting your hobby, you're enabling them to do so. A developer isn't going to consider dumbing a game down and making it easier because a bunch of casuals asked for advice and then got it. They will if a bunch of casuals complain about the game being too hard, which they will because of people like you letting them walk into a 10 hour dead end.
Julian Turner
I for one am grateful to our slackjawed pipeworker friends for funding the next expansion before they get filtered and drop the game in a week.
>cheese So psi + melee weapon is OP? Is that the deal with ‘hammer wizard’ spam? Then what weapon is the MOST fun?
Brandon Gonzalez
Did you already finish the game on dominating?
Isaiah Morgan
I hope they secured Stygian's future for the next few years.
Dominic Wright
It can be. Most people who melee hybrid just level TM up to get the boost abilities and psychokinesis on the side for force field. Hammer Wizard is just someone who went almost all in on strength to boost his TKP damage beyond the fucking roof.
Kevin Perez
how the fuck do I get to the nexus of technology
Thomas Price
Psi monks and hammer wizards, while both focus mainly on psychokinesis, have very different builds Psi monks are very nimble, very fast and very dodgy, but not really that tanky, also can hit 100 times in the same turn and run 1000 kilometers away While hammer wizards are slow moving tungsten tanks, their mind punches hurt like a fuck, and they only need a single hammer swing to turn you into a crater
Regardless, psionic melee is really strong and fun, if a tad challenging
Ayden Lopez
I just need to wrap up Black Sea, do the tchortist quests, and clear DC.
So how do you keep your gear in check early-midgame? I was kept getting cucked by my merchants and been able to craft a better sniper rifle and SMG only after about 4 levels. Also I still can't my mind around what would be better, leather armor or vest? And if leather armor, where do I farm high level rathounds/pigs?
Brayden Morris
I'm guessing this game requires a significant investment of time to figure everything out?
Nathaniel Davis
no
Levi Hall
gas mask because fuck heartbreakers
just fuck them and fuck sea wyrms, holy shit
Parker Collins
Yes, Underrail is not exacly a 'casual game'
You can but you will suffer, unless you beg for hand holding from us
Asking for advice is one thing, asking people to play the game for them is another. There's a big difference between somebody who's unsure of how a certain mechanic work and somebody who literally asks you to spoonfeed them an entire build to play the game on easy mode because they're terrified of failing before even committing to anything, and this is an extremely unhealthy mentality not limited to videogames and I will not enable it, no matter how many strawmen you pull. >A developer isn't going to consider dumbing a game down and making it easier because a bunch of casuals asked for advice and then got it. Except they totally do and I don't even care about it since just I won't play their dumbed down games anymore. All hobbies, all activities inevitably lead to multiple 10 hours dead ends, this is what learning is about, if you're that worried about "wasting time" on your hobby then you must look for something else to do with your time, for your own sake.
Daniel Carter
Is there any reason I shouldn't defend myself from zoner gangsters?
It also probably says more about GOG's small market and Deadire's lackluster reception, but earlier today Expedition in its second month surpassed the second and third Deadfire DLC's lifetime sales. For what it's worth I'm going to take that as a good sign.
Jacob White
I heard theres a yandere in this game is that true?
Eli Scott
No, just kill them all, they're the Core City equivalent of lurkers and the like.
Cameron Martinez
leave deadfire alone it was fine
Gavin Butler
They are murderous gangsters that will want to kill you Why wouldnt you defend yourself? Why wouldnt you kill them all?
Andrew Miller
Not really. The only time that really happens is when is when I'm trying to beat an encounter without having to back and restock on resources. I tried playing on normal up to mid corecity once just to see what it was like and it felt like a big joke. Like I could just do what the fuck ever and still win fights while dominating will still fuck me over even when I know what's coming if I try to skip preperation.
If you truly want to enjoy the game, then yes. IMO I'd say that this game is somewhat similar to Path of Exile in terms of build viability.
Nathan Miller
ive wasted 3 hours thus far just to choose the fucking character portrait
Chase Rogers
Get yourself a chip implanted Pay the muties a visit
Elijah Peterson
Oh cool, I actually bought this when it went on sale. I have some time tonight so I'm kinda eager to just go in blind. One small caveat though: what are the noob traps? Stats/builds/trees, etc?
Benjamin Martin
What build should i do if i want a easy time around? Care to link me a pastebin?
Caleb Cooper
thanks brah
Brandon Edwards
Because gangsters tend to be in a, you know, gang. And gangs usually go after those who fuck with them. I don't wanna face a nigga with a pet deathstalker down the road.
Aaron Fisher
Looks like proportional use of force to me.
Eli Ross
This is just sales talk, gotta compare to something since we don't have actual numbers.
Sebastian Mitchell
Bre*
Owen Robinson
>Because gangsters tend to be in a, you know, gang. Good thing you eat gangs for breakfast in this game.
Christian Campbell
so you broke into a guy's house and murdered him?
Colton Russell
Nah, it's not.
Sebastian Smith
Deathstalkers cannot be pets, user. Otherwise people would have warned you by now
Nolan Watson
Any psi build is a guarantee to be a piece of piss
Bentley Williams
Metal armour Assault rifles
Carter Thomas
I opened the unlocked door to a building hoping it was a friendly establishment and they opened fire at me. So I set them on all fire.
Ethan Kelly
You forgot: Fuck Cans
Bentley Hernandez
Yeah. You could could just copy someone's build but that kind of defeats the purpose of the game.
Chase Martin
Play as a hammer wizard
Jose Flores
daily reminder that using psi is like playing on easy mode - you haven't really completed the game
David Diaz
>Then what weapon is the MOST fun? Objectively shotguns.
Connor Long
Is telekinetic proxy worth the investment? I found one in core From the sounds of it sounds like a MOTHERFUCKING Jkind of overpowered but it's pretty expensive
>He says as he makes more toxic gas grenades and crawler poison caltrops
Carson Cook
Considering it doubles your telekinetic damage output for a pittance, yes.
Daniel Thomas
Is it possible to just focus on one line of PSI, or do you really have to pick all of them to get the most out of it.
Parker Roberts
I only have 30 bear traps right now, it's ok
Levi Martinez
Ideaguy here
>Conditioning provides 10% damage resistance to mechanical, cold and heat damage and +1% for every point above 5 CON and below 10 CON, +2% for every point above 10 CON and below 15 CON, and +3% for every point above 15 CON
Luke Jenkins
If you're going to use psi for main source of damage output then you may as well go all in since your gear will be based around it, if you just want CC (thought control) then you only need to buff that line and up to about 75ish is probably more than enough.
Levi Bennett
what's the shtick of swords and spears? how do they differ from knives and hammers?
Logan Watson
So if I wanna use bear traps or mines do I just sneak around lay them down then open fire?
Xavier Martinez
basically yes. some smarter enemies will be able to spot them. go for thin hallways
Tyler Campbell
Look at me, psiniggers. Play a no-magic melee build on Dominating RIGHT NOW.
Spears have an aoe, a spear toss, an extra tile of range, and can be very defensive with their feats and innate passive. Swords can be built to be defensive when paired with a shield + parries and ripostes or they can be an all damage all the time casino crit machine where you chop through crowds in a few seconds or miss once and die
Robert Gutierrez
All hobbies and activities do not lead to 10 hour dead ends like this. When would that ever be the case outside of something like making a sculpture out of marble and cracking the thing in half? If you're reading a book and get to a word you've never seen before you don't have to re-read the entire book from the start to try again. Playing the wrong note on an instrument doesn't mean you have to throw the entire song you're writing out the window and start writing it over again. Landing in the rough or a sandpit in golf doesn't mean you have to start the entire course from the beginning. Nothing is comparable to this at all, and it's absurd to speak as if it's some terrible thing that some guy wants to make sure he's not going to find himself completely stuck after investing a large amount of time on a single video game.
When has a developer ever dumbed down their next game because some players were just looking up optimal builds, and why would they in the first place if they're not complaining about the game being too hard? You're just making stuff up. And I never strawmanned you, fuck off.
Yes, specially if you're a psi monk or hammer wizard, they can easily deal 400 - 400 damage
Jack Morris
>autistic wall of text right from the get-go how vaccinated do I need to be to enjoy this game
Eli Myers
If full psi, take all if hybrid psi, focus on one or two, complementing with your weapons
Jose Robinson
Put me off the first time too Dont worry tho soon it turns into a autistic trash sorting game
Samuel Hill
You obviously never seriously invested into any of the things you mentioned and you're also incredibly angry for no good reason, this discussion is over.
Owen Stewart
Considered you're already autistically shitposting in an Underrail thread, I'm certain you're good to go
Jacob Campbell
Stoooooooooooop it.
Blake Bennett
I'm really starting to regret going pure wizard because hammer wizard sounds rad as fuck
Liam Brown
I'm just trying to make the game even more fun user.
Wyatt Ramirez
Hybrid is definitely more fun than muggle or pure psi
David Smith
reminder that psi is for MANLETS and BABIES
no psi rise up!!!!!!
Ian Barnes
Welcome to the build carosel lad Time to play every build in the game until level 12
Carter Hernandez
Your ideas are shit and you're shit. Fuck off back to codex.
Isaac Bell
I've played with spears a bit. They're very reliable with their guaranteed crit feat, and ability to be thrown when necessary. The AoE sweep also is a good tool for certain encounters, and the 100% block with feats+spec also means you narrow the encounters that put you in real danger even more. Add grenades and traps and you shouldn't feel frustrated.
Alexander Johnson
>Not expressing this a function of c Never gonna make it
Kevin Wilson
whats at the end of the expansion?
Juan Butler
Fuck, is it worth re-rolling at this point then? I'm barely out the Depot Yeah, ever play hordes of the underdark? That one NWN expansion? I used to spend ages when I was younger just fucking around making dumb meme builds. I get the feeling that if I let it, this game is gonna do the same to me, but dragged out MUCH longer.
Michael Phillips
A weeaboo. Seriously.
Easton Cox
Which psi categories compliment which weapons?
Owen Moore
im playing this game for the first time and i kinda like it
however im kinda having trouble with enemies, any tips you pro gamers can give me?
CRAAAAAAWLIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIN THESE WOOOOOUNDS THEY WIIIIIIILL NOT HEAAAAAAAAAL FEEEEEAAAR IS HOW I FAAAAAAALL CONFUSING WHAT IS REAAAAAAAAL!
Asher Cruz
Nobody can tell you what's fun, or if your build ADHD will die down. You can beat this game with just grenades and traps, so just figure out what you want to play. I've restarted and done a different build part way into expedition because I'm at peace with my autism.
Jayden Foster
You made a bunch of ridiculous claims, and a baseless accusation at me and you're continuing to do it, and now you're giving up because you can't bother to back up any of the nonsense you said. Were you shitposting or are you just high functioning?
Camden Anderson
All of them.
Logan Morgan
>spear throw >reliable heh
Brody Diaz
Yeah, it's not that I hate my build or anything, it's just that i'm not comfortable not having any actual weapons except for mind boolets, that and i'm the most indecisive cunt you'll ever meet I think it would be best if I just try and contain my autism Operating word being try.
Spears are reliable, nigger. Throw your only spear with 60% to hit at the start of the fight, and come crying again. It's not my job to tell you when the right time to utilize a tool is.
Nicholas Long
There should be a big warning when you start the game to never pick snooping.
Andrew Howard
traps and grenades are the most broken thing in the game and you dont look like youre abusing them at all + your stats look really spread out and optimized.
Josiah Parker
Leave conditioning alone. Veteran feats are fertile ground for ideaguy-ing, hence why I stuck Titanic there
Dominic Gutierrez
Use more grenades, and traps. Also for basically any new player: put your combat stat at 10. The times you don't do this are particular enough that you should just assume your build isn't one of those situations.
Juan Harris
How should i allocate my level 1 skills for pure gun build?
Bentley Torres
Do you want me to toss out a sample build on which you won't immediately die but you'll also see early game content while recognize ng the limits off different builds? Because a simple dodge/eva hammer build goes a long way early game
Easton Jenkins
>The times you don't do this are particular enough that you should just assume your build isn't one of those situations. is this even english or am i being retarded
Matthew Turner
There's nothing wrong with my comprehension, you just typed that out poorly. They're still not reliable, this game is famous for its 95% "hit" chances missing, the difference is that if you miss a spear throw you're either going to run and pick it up or equip another from your inventory
Ayden Bailey
Never pick snooping
Gavin Gutierrez
I most certainly didn't accuse YOU in particular of anything, unless you somehow feel so threatened by the impersonal use of the second person singular pronoun of the english language to the point of accusing other people of being high functioning, or maybe you just have guilty conscience regarding what I said? Or is it unwarranted self importance? I'll leave it up to the audience to decide.
Secondly, none of my claims are ridiculous and any person who's seriously put some time in honing a skill or a hobby will tell you as much, you'll inevitably end up losing hours on something because, surprise surprise, nobody is born with preternatural knowledge about anything and you WILL meet set backs. you will fail at something and waste hours trying to figure shit out, pretending otherwise is simply ridiculous and completely out of touch with reality, kids wouldn't fail school tests otherwise. Now, if you weren't so fixated and deathly afraid of failure before even trying to commit to something, you'd understand this very basic truth of the world and understand that handholding does nothing but nurture said paranoia even further, but I'm afraid you can't deal with that, and given just how angry you are at a simple post that didn't even consider you in particular, I'll reiterate that this discussion is over and suggest you to close your browser and take a walk to vent some of that frustration.
Not necessary, you might as well post it if you've got it though, some other user might wanna use it Thanks though.
Easton Peterson
Max out Guns and Mechanics every level The rest is up to you
Lucas Jenkins
if you're on normal nothing matters just keep pumping guns it will be easier if you follow others advice but its still not very difficult if you don't
Julian Kelly
hey hey people
Caleb Perry
>The times you don't do this*... "This" is referring to the previous statement: "put your combat stat at 10" >The times you don't [put your combat stat at 10] are particular* enough... "Particular enough" means rare or not frequent >Time times you don't [put your combat stat at 10] are [rare] enough you should just assume your build isn't one of those situations*. "One of those situations" is referring to "The times you don't [put your combat stat at 10]". >The times you don't [put your combat stat at 10] are [rare] enough you should just assume your build isn't one of those situations [where you don't put your combat stat at 10].
Leo Green
critical power is so based
Blake Scott
Right? It's simply the best for energy pistols and shotguns.
Kevin White
What about attributes? Do i get perception up to 10 at lvl1?
Owen Walker
>not being a burstchad
Camden Turner
Yeah nothing wrong with that Usually you pump your main stat to 10 and tank the ones you wont be using Build? Tin can gunner or nimble gunner, or stealthy gunner?
Camden Fisher
Absolute newfag but from what i pictured i just want to put the most defensive armor and combat shotgun
Logan Morales
no
Brayden Turner
I will go back being a burstchad when Styg unfucks the Double Barreled Shotgun.
If you want to be come a Tin Can, you will need STR 9 STR for Tungsten armour, 8 for the other metal armours
Watch out for knifefags with crippling strike If you wont use Will, also get some INT for some crafting boost
Jose Brown
I made a medium freq energy shield....
What does this do?
Robert Gutierrez
>no matter how many strawmen you pull. This was in a conversation between two people. Who else are you referring to?
Your second paragraph is you comparing apples to oranges >you will fail at something and waste hours trying to figure shit out Even this isn't similar at all to having to start over in a video game. But I could see how someone like you would think that, considering your apparent condition.
Ian Morris
should i dump dex?
Noah Brooks
This game sounds amazing, is there a iron man mode with permadeath?
Isaac Price
nimble tincan is ok with very light metal armor. the concept confuses most people in this thread though, they're all tungsten brainlets
Jackson Jones
There damn should be. And new content for ironman as well, even if it's just flavor dialogue.
Angel Lewis
It gives you aids. Craft a Low-Low shield like a real chad, or a High-High shield if you're a tin can.
Kevin Lee
you could just start over when you die, and not ask the developers to implement a load of pointless stuff for you
Here's a quick advice for you, when you want to tank a base stat to 3 or bump a skill 10, ALWAYS check the list of feats for that base skill
Nope
Kayden Taylor
I can't afford that, what do frequencies even do? Ah bugger this, I'm getting TNT and checking out that battery factory.
Juan White
Are the story/characters in this game good? Is the dlc like add-on missions or does it flesh out the main game (think wrath of the chosen for xcom2)
Jeremiah Hall
It's not the same. It's much more satisfying when the game locks you out of features than having to restrict your own power level by yourself.
Mason Hall
Frequencies block attacks of the corresponding speeds.
Andrew Morgan
Tungsten tanks are chads But nimble tanks are okay for gunners, I guess
Jason Murphy
Also, how punishing is going in blind (not understanding builds/mechanics)? Can I fuck around with builds to find out what works as I go or am I just fucked if I go something sub-optimal?
Leo Butler
Why the fuck would anyone help that dickhead Gorsky in Core City?
Eh, is there feats that are for sure not worth taking like at all?
Jack Fisher
Is that me or half of the wiki is throwing error 500?
Jack Adams
>Are the story/characters in this game good? Yes, characterization more than story itself, however the background lore and philosophy it touches is superb. >Is the dlc like add-on missions or does it flesh out the main game Yes >Also, how punishing is going in blind (not understanding builds/mechanics)? Can be really harsh, read the wiki and ask for advice here >Can I fuck around with builds to find out what works as I go or am I just fucked if I go something sub-optimal? As a matter of fact, fucking around with builds is actually encouraged Take your time, Underrail is a long game
Anthony Morales
EXP, son. You also get to infiltrate Port Zenith in a fun way, and if you're good enough you can steal a jet ski from the cans.
Jose Young
People keep picking snooping and I have no idea why. Paranoia is basically the same thing, does what another mediocre feat does, and it reduces your chance to take a crit.
Chase Reed
Yo that medium blocks sharpnel? Hot damn I'm going to kamikaze myself.
Luke Russell
sold me, thanks bruv
Cooper Reyes
Actually yes, the wiki is having difficulties by the sheer amount of new users
Christopher Wright
do you have to kill all of them if you do this
Adam Kelly
hey hey
Joseph Diaz
Because I don't want my character to be paranoid, he'd be a lunatic.
I wish the game had a respec function, uu.
Gavin Cooper
Bre* Underrail has it's own slang in game that will quickly rub off on you You will know why
Michael Rodriguez
Zoner here
Leo King
Yeah? What's wrong with that?
Isaac Gonzalez
Oddity > Classic prove me wrong
Ryan Campbell
Not necessarily, but you can
Dominic Barnes
Which is better, Knifelad or Swordchad? can I make a good hybrid with either?
Logan Jenkins
sounds like a pain but it'll be fun going to the nigger sea without caring about natives this time actually can you just go and finish the whole DLC without even touching aegis
Colton Davis
Both are okay but different to their core Hybrid you mean knife and sword together or, knife OR sword with psi?
Jaxson Wright
No. Now I'mma free-ski it outta here, and make sure nobody sees me... You have to kill the front door guards if you want to use that area again, but the greater Protectorate shouldn't know/care. I did this the easier way by taking a junk ski to the water entrance, then doing a quick one-round jet-ski rider kill into stealing it, and riding away.
Adam Cruz
>can you just go and finish the whole DLC without even touching aegis Nope, the Aegis camp will be hostile, which means you can't start the whole questline at all. You can still rack up some oddities and materials though, it's a nice way to sequence break.
Zachary Long
swords in rpgs are gay
Ayden Anderson
It did this for a few days after Expedition released too
Blake Hill
Oddityfags are still here causing trouble? Time to kick some Oddity teeth in.
>Nope, the Aegis camp will be hostile, which means you can't start the whole questline at all. Couldn't you technically check out the mutie isle on your own, get the microchip, open up all the ruins and fetch Acorn without ever dealing with Aegis or pirates?
Daniel Lee
Knife OR Sword with Psi Sword AND knife seems like it wouldn’t work, but I’m pretty new
Easton Morgan
if i had to guess you probably don't get the option to take phil's arm because you have no reason to at that point
Jason Johnson
6p seems like it's kind of worthless, 12p does more damage against targets with armor and has more chances to crit, and 20p obliterates unarmored targets.
Jonathan Perez
Seeing 'Legionary' builds are rather common nowadays 'Legionary' builds are basically swords with Riot Gear with shield, following a roman motiff 'Hoplite' builds are basically spears with Riot Gear with shield, following a greek motiff You can see a lot of these builds exclusively running Temporal Manipulation
Andrew Williams
I disagree. I feel enemies are either heavily armored (6p, 3p if you can get it) or not armored enough for me to care (20p).
6p is better against meatier single targets, same for 3p, though 3p also dazes.
Hudson Bell
How does the graveyard work? Are you supposed to randomly search corpses and hope you´ll find the right one before spirits get angry?
Julian Wilson
using multiple weapon types seems dumb, especially if they're both melee or otherwise similar
Jackson Scott
>3INT post What do you think keeps that metal armor together, Akko? A vest you have to sew.
Dylan Cox
yngwar tells you what to do ferryman kind of also and there's a huge hammer somewhere with the symbol on it
Austin Wilson
>You can see a lot of these builds exclusively running Temporal Manipulation You can see pretty much all builds running around with TM now because free +15/20 AP for 2/3 turns is nothing to scoff at.
Owen Martin
You can always pick up shitty quality vests and go nuts on metal plates
No Shield/Knife? How many points do I want to drop in TM? Any other Psi stuff I want to pump on a hybrid?
Matthew Anderson
'...Pipeworks'
Carter Price
I got the part from ferryman, Yngwar unfortunately got monolith´d before giving me the symbol. What´s the deal with hamer though?
Nathan Baker
Here's the catch, Riot Gear has some Armour Penalty Armour penalty will reduce movement points, stealth, dodge and evasion by a certain %, capped at 95%, in which you wont get any Movement Points whatsoever
Knifefags must stay light and nimble, which you cannot exacly do with Riot Gear Sorry bre
Connor White
Knife/Shield isn't explored as much because its a dex based build, whereas riot shield armor is a high armor penalty/str based build.
Leo Turner
o shit Haven’t seen a shield yet, didn’t know they gave armor penalty
Someone tell me this screen is optional and theirs another way around. I literally cannot leave the second I step in because IT ALWAYS SPAWNS ME AT THE BOTTOM TRAPPING ME BETWEEN THESE NEVER ENDING DOGSPAWNS I literally cant kill them fast enough to even leave the screen because their are three more of these stupid fuckers offscreen.
the two most common psi skills that mostly non-psi users take are force field (25 psychokinesis) and psycho-temporal contraction (55 temporal manipulation) having more points in the skills do not benefit those two abilities so people like to meet the requirements and then stop putting points into it
Nathaniel Evans
Ahhhh, dominating.
Ayden Ramirez
How autistic do I need to be to play it
Joseph Lewis
knifefriends defend themselves by getting cheap shot stuns on everything on screen and by running away, or by decloaking behind you, killing you silently, then cloaking up again. nothin personnel kiddo *tips siphoner leather*
Dylan Fisher
and so the shitters begin to get filtered yes there is another way around the dogs are not respawning there are just a lot of them
Jacob James
bre, there's two entrances to that zone which you can alternate. Or you could just stealth through.
Parker Johnson
>throws hand grenade >wtf why is the entire map attacking me
Jack Diaz
Not joking, but seriously autistic level of autism are required for this game.
I like CRPGs, I love Fallout 1 and 2, Jagged Alliance, etc. Nonetheless, this game is unplayable to me. You require to hate fun in order to play it.
Easton Campbell
>How many points do I want to drop in TM? 55 if you just want the AP buff Contraction. 70 if you want Stasis. >Any other Psi stuff I want to pump on a hybrid? Psychokinesis has the utility spell Force Field that you unlock at 25.
None of the above abilities' effectiveness scale with your effective skill level so they're useful even if you're a hybrid with 3 Will.
Juan Bell
Does the game have a lot of range for exploration and general choice in quests? Thats really all I hope for.
Additionally, does the game have any sort of territorial warfare between the various factions? Really my dream game but I've learned to accept its never gonna happen.
Jaxon Diaz
If i want to invest into crafting, mainly Tailoring, Electronics and Mechanics what are optimal point investment in those ?
Kevin Rodriguez
>start game >check Ezra >Q31 electroshock emitter God damnit Ezra sell me the SHIT ones so my taser lasts forever.
Brandon Stewart
It's a game made by autists for autists. You don't have to be super optimal to win though. Just know what you're doing.
David Wood
Tell me where I can access it. Cant do anything except get lucky at this entrance.
Jackson Perez
do it continuously until the end of the game
Chase Jenkins
This game is easier to get into than F1+2 and JA. Those games are so janky by today's standards. Underrail has better graphics, UI, gameplay mechanics, and rpg mechanics.
I do think you need a decent amount of autism to get into underrail, but you need autism to get into most cRPGs.
Josiah James
So anything goes then?
William Gomez
You just need to like actual RPGs, there's very little autism but most people in here are casual so they pretend this game is some unfathomable abyss of depth and weirdness when it's in fact very straightforward. An effective 140 is enough for you to craft top tier equipment together with benches. Theoretically, you might need 150 but 170Q components are incredibly rare so there's no real need to go that far.
Nicholas Ramirez
unironically max it until the later levels, probably something around 150-160 effective skill (that's the number in parentheses)
Sebastian Anderson
>This game is easier to get into than F1+2 and Stopped reading there.
Never reply to me again.
Jace Young
Yes, there is another way around.
Angel Fisher
yeah, two gangs of cats duke it out to the death Don't forget about exothermic aura at 70 MT :^)
Leo Ross
I see, thanks.
Isaiah Barnes
Its the truth.
Dylan Carter
Is unarmed good in this game? Can I do a Kenshiro run
Cooper Jackson
>tfw you have to go fix a power generator and outposts in a giant rat infested cave, catch stupid rabbit gopher things, fight huge psychic bugs to save some scrub, explore an abandoned facility and fight more giant rats and the rogue security drones and stop a raider incursion, go to some ghetto shithole and help a gang do illegal shit, and then go into a horrible murder dawn of the dead warzone before your boss finally lets you take a nap
Yeah, some user on here is obsessed with his bare fists only build. Its pretty strong desu.
John Campbell
>full wizard DOMINATING >pop open Ratula's door >stand in his house menacingly, waiting >his rathounds finally line up next to him >chuck a grenade at him with 15% accuracy >1HKO them all MAGIC BABY
Blake Rivera
Yeah, there's both fist weapons and pure unarmed. Pure unarmed starts out weaker and lack fist weapon additions like electricity damage or bleed but you get more attacks per turn which works wonderfully with Psychokinesis psi school as you get a spell that adds plenty of extra damage and procs with each landed hit. There's also a feat that adds extra STR scaling to psychokinetic damage in addition to STR itself increasing unarmed damage.
Christopher Davis
all in a day’s work
Isaac Gutierrez
>Does the game have a lot of range for exploration and general choice in quests? Yep.
>does the game have any sort of territorial warfare between the various factions? You mean warfare they wage on their own? Not really. There's some of that in the DLC, but it's nothing like what you get from AI opponents in a strategy game
Leo Edwards
I'm after depot A and at the point where I'm supposed to go to Rail Crossing, but it seems like I have the option to go to Foundry right now. Why should I go there first as a tin can? Someone in a thread said you can get your first shield emitter at Core City, so I kind of want to go there, but the story makes it sound like I shouldn't yet.
Hudson Nelson
Yes, monks and psi monks are very good and effective meme builds that can actually carry you through the game Bonus points if you change the portrait to Kenshiro
Noah Williams
>you become 5x stronger than you ever were before >all in a day's work
Logan Cruz
Can I change my portrait mid-game?
Ryder Brown
Tin cans, be either hammerers or gunners, thrive in metal Foundry is, per excellence, Metal center, Leonie can sell up to 90 quality metal: steel and tungsten the first time you enter And when you finish the last Foundry mission, Kill the Beast, you will unlock another set of metal, TiChrome, and all these metals can reach up to 150 quality Foundry is often nicknamed 'Tin can heaven' for a reason, user
if you're not doing it on dominating it doesn't count
James Lewis
Prepare to craft bullets for hours.
Joshua Evans
New idea: >Oddities don't have a max number cap. Whatever oddity you find will always provide XP, no matter how many times you find it >To balance it out, there are fewer oddities in the world and those drop from respawning enemies (like fancy rathound ears) only drop a limited number of times
Styg should hire me, don't you guys think?
Elijah Baker
>classic exp Son...
Kayden Jenkins
>not doing this anyways thats like half the fun!
David Murphy
Yeah. Major spoiler warning to new players, consider yourself warned.
Does sloped armor work retroactively? I don't have it yet but I might be able to make a good armor piece if I can find some extra mats.
Julian Green
i know you're just going to rely off of .44s bre
Benjamin Lopez
Most guns don't need crafted bullets, ballistic pistols live and die by how many crafted bullets you can afford since they're weaker than the rest and must find something to rebalance that. This is mostly fine up until Hard, Expedition excluded, genociding Sormibaeren hordes or strongmen with ballistic pistols is incredibly slow and hard, and not the good kind of hard.
Asher Perez
Fuck. Off!
Michael Torres
So where are the flamethrowers?
Mason Cruz
I praise the nigga who gave me sprint on both of my shotgun wiz builds anons posted, I would be dumb and not have grabbed it, half the time I win fights thanks to it alone
Andrew Parker
In your mind, together with the rest of the metathermics.
Dylan Murphy
How the FUCK do you beat the sentry bots in the third mission? Last thread they said there were AP bullets and EMP grenades, but I can’t find any of them. And you can’t just run past because of their flashbangs
Connor Adams
B-but I don't wanna be a psi-freak.
Nicholas Cruz
...How likely is that travelling pilgrim Tanner committing the crime that got him on the last two Godmen's shit list?
James Taylor
Playing the game for the first time, I love it so far. My only grip is how fucking slow moving around is, just going back to one of the early shack outpost just to picklock shits took me a long time.
Kayden Ortiz
>start DOMINATING >all is going well >mfw trying to rescue Norton I didn't bring enough HE grenades for this shit
there are literally 3 EMP grenades in the camera room I never bother fighting them though because I just run past them and close doors behind me
Ethan Watson
close the door set up a couple bear traps throw down caltrops open the door throw a frag or HE out to lure all of them in the building and keep doorslamming until you see that they've all gathered up outside molotov and run away behind the corner abusing LoS I usually only need 2 molotovs for this sometimes even 1 if I'm lucky with the burns
>run past How? They stun my ass before I can get 3 feet
Charles Allen
If I play a tank character, do I avoid taking the "despite being only 13%" pills for psi abilities? Or can psi abilities cover for the loss eventually?
Noah Long
challenge accepted x2 fuck yeah i am
Levi Cook
Completely different atmosphere despite being post-nuclear. Underrail is a whole thriving new civilization on its own.
Joshua Gray
and what happens after you're not just stunned for 5 turns
Charles Reed
What determines super steel plate quality?
Jaxon Wright
How about gameplay wise?
Brandon Baker
the early game of dominating is a series of progressively more soul crushing psi beetle rape dungeons. just accept your fate as brain fried breeding stock for the next generation of larvae.
Jose Allen
The god of random numbers.
Colton Wilson
chance, have fun savescumming
Joshua Clark
But you are? Flashbang is 1 turn, they close in for the taser for 2, and by then their friends show up who can flashbang again for 3 rounds. By then I’m dead
Brayden Clark
Just made my character yesterday, put alot into lockpicking, hacking, electronics, mind control, melee, guns and basically everything Issac Clarke would have used. I think I went with the feat that allows more movement point upon a kill and the evasive one. Good game so far about to go fight the crabs in mushroom cave.
Just got the game downloaded and my imternet will be out for awhile. Can I go in blind or is it a wikigame? Mot him but whats wrong with heavy armor snipers?
Logan Lopez
Pro tip for melee the crowbar has no durability so infinite bonking and it opens vents.
Ayden Adams
>issac I got some bad news user
Parker Jackson
Underrail's gameplay is far more complex, difficult and skill-based, as well as much more balanced. Let me give you an example of balance: Fallout 1 and 2 had Agility determine how many attacks you could do in a turn and how far you could move, and both actions were tied to Action Points. This resulted in Agility being broken and by far the most important stat in the game. Underrail instead separates Movement Points (used to move) from Action Points (used to move and attack), and Agility only affects Movement Points, while all characters have 50 Action Points base, regardless of Agility, so it isn't a broken stat at all. The gameplay was developed with plenty of dedication from the devs, I recommend you give it a try.
Ryder Jenkins
I'm going in blind and doing fine user I wish ea didn't have them by the balls it's my favorite series until 3
Cooper Evans
Become a hammer wizard Yes go for it
Julian Bell
I'm sayin you spelled his name wrong
Kayden Myers
>been maxing intimidate for Yell >still fail some intimidate checks Hmmm
Evan Jenkins
You didn't yelled loud enough
Chase Evans
ghost, I've given up. thisparticular iteration of tin can Ψ-slamma-hamma was a mistake. fuck you for enjoying the 3 int life (and being effective at it)
Austin Fisher
>whats wrong with heavy armor snipers? Everything since Snipers live and die by their ability to stealth, run away and restealth+reposition with a weapon that has crippling malus at close range and trying to couple that with an armor set that is by design against everything stealth related.
Caleb Gray
Fuck just noticed, I've been up for 3 days straight sorry.
Adam Hernandez
I don't know what to tell you that never happens to me the only time i've ever seen them taser is if i'm literally next to them my best advice I think would be don't bother trying to fight them if your gun sucks too much and do your best to avoid combat abusing doors you can kill the cameras so you'll have an easier time
also I've played through the beginning a million times now so I know where everything is and only have the possibility of running into one robot minus the mandatory one on dominating
Grayson Allen
How about Styg balances psi by making the skill requirements to learn each spell higher? It's bullshit how non-psi oriented builds have access to all psi utility skills just by putting a few points into psi skills. They should invest more on psi skills so that it becomes questionable if it's worth all those skill points instead of being the obvious optimal choice.
Austin Thompson
Remenber Will affects social skills If low Will, intimidation gets penalized
Asher White
Im sorry fren Please forgiv
Justin Powell
>55 points for contraction >a few points into psi skills
Camden Brown
25 for force field may be a bit low. I don't think Styg is valuing the utility correctly on higher difficulties but I also think veteran players underestimate just how much damage Metathermics shits out in an AoE on the lower difficulties
Camden Jones
Yes, it's only a few points considering how powerful it is for *all* builds and that you don't have to put anymore points into that school afterwards. I'd give Contraction a 80 skill requirement minimum, or at least make its power somewhat scale with Temporal Manipulation
Noah Roberts
how hard is this game if I want to go in blind and figure everything out muself? can you irreversibly fuck your build up? can you grind exp at some easier locations before you move on to harder ones? is there some kind of ingame build reset?
Elijah James
And forgot to add, you don't just get contraction, you also get Psycho-temporal Dilate, Entropic Recurrence and Limited Temporal Increment, and you're only 15 points away from Stasis. All of them are incredibly useful utility spells you get access to for a measly 70 points into a school. It's not balanced.
Camden Bell
>Go psycho-temporarily dilate, psi freak!
Nathan Gonzalez
No veteran can give you an objective answer anymore. Probably. Yes, if you go classic instead of oddity, but you could also just work to find some easier oddities before running into some bad dudes No.
Aiden Young
>how hard is this game if I want to go in blind and figure everything out muself? You'll probably hit a wall with your first character, even on Normal. But take it as a learning experience. It took me 4 character resets before I settled on a build that I beat the game with. >can you irreversibly fuck your build up? Yes >can you grind exp at some easier locations before you move on to harder ones? If you play Oddity you could go explore caves a bit, but you can't just grind trash mobs to level forever. >is there some kind of ingame build reset? Yeah, the "Quit" button.
Owen Lopez
its almost like TM is a buffing psi school
Alexander Ortiz
>how hard is this game if I want to go in blind and figure everything out muself? How well versed are you with RPGs? >can you irreversibly fuck your build up? Yes. >can you grind exp at some easier locations before you move on to harder ones? On classic, yes, and on Oddity to some small degree. >is there some kind of ingame build reset? Yes, it's called rerolling your shitty character and learning from your mistakes.
Colton Price
>could spend 10$ to get it >super cheap and may lose job >wanna psi people
is it worth it? its 7 something right now
Alexander Allen
It's too powerful and accessible user, that's my point. No reason not to take the gay pill. Otherwise the pill should give additional penalties than just a shitty -25% hp reduction, like -1 STR or something.
Ah, that's good to hear. Best of luck and God bless you Issacbro. That sucks, but it's to be expected. Still a shame since it was fun to do that in MechWarrior
Easton Murphy
Wish i wasn't such a brainlet so i could enjoy this game, seems really cool. Couldn't even finish the tutorial.
we've been conditioned to believe that, in bideo games, you should be able to walk through a hail of gunfire because you're the protagonist. UnderRail tells you to even the odds by going Arnold in Predator, not Stallone in Rambo. Not everyone wants to set-up the occasional bear trap, throw the occasional caltrops, huck the occasional grenade, or hide behind the occasional corner , despite the fact that your adversaries will do everything they can to not die. Those people who do not want to play as one man taking down an army through guile will not enjoy the game.
I'm at acid hunters and so far it only mattered at the very beginning I got around that with pickpocketing I don't need super steel for my build so I'm pretty set for the rest of the game I think except for maybe the house shit but I'm pretty close to the amount you need for everything
Luke Lee
Oh but i didn't stop playing because of that, is just that i get overwhelmed with all the stuff on screen and the options; i honestly don't play this kind of game because the huge depth they have, i literally can't handle all that shit.
>doctor is shit Hypos don't do dick when you have high CON without doctor. It takes like 6 of them to fully heal you.
Jason White
What? That can't be real... right?
Michael Morales
That's not what happened to me did you implant the chip in yourself
Nathaniel Wilson
...Hammer wizard, would you care to weigh in?
Dominic Lewis
yes
am i fucked?
Jose Green
You rang?
Matthew Rivera
no that's what you're supposed to do now it just sounds like my game was bugged but there was no way i was making it through that area without my gear
Jonathan Cox
Without the chip, the door just politely tells you to drop off. I didn't try picking my stuff up after the scan, but it would be beyond baffling if you can actually do it.
Ghost here My stuff was behind a destructable wall, theres dynamite in the other room, use it I had the chip implanted
Justin Rivera
no what happened in my run was my first time through I had phil's arm but I didn't implant it into myself so I was let into the scanning area and didn't realize it was the arm that was making it not let me in and i was just trapped in there from my stupidity after i came back without the arm it let me in I'm pretty sure that I just picked my gear back up after the scan though
So you're saying that temporal manipulation allows me to stop time right?
Luke Rivera
yeah I even remember going into that room and wondering why there was an empty bin I definitely picked up my gear right after the scan whether that was a bug, i have no idea
Jonathan Allen
Youre welcome
Andrew Jones
My agi-focused 3 int machetegirls deals absolutely no damage against naga protectors, but I eventually found a way to chip at them via sonocaster and EMP grenades.
-30 aoe damage per shot at 0 gun skill is better than anything else I have at my arsenal, and I can get to about 70% accuracy when they are stunned.
The 3 MK3 EMP grenades found in the nexus of technology is just enough for this encounter.
Everything. Especially traps and grenades. Crafting and traps/grenades are like some of the most useful things in the game.
Christopher Morris
It's really not that deep, just generally well executed. >What build best synergies with crafting? Galaxy brain Psi/Chempistol/Energy pistol characters, anything with high INT requirements in general, Energy pistols are the best choice by far since their feats scale off INT and/or are crafting related, which also scales off INT. >I want to play with traps and nades. Oh that you're gonna do regardless.
Jaxon Thomas
I'm at gms compound bout to get my first shotgun but I leveled up and just crafted my own combat shotgun time to RIP AND TEAR
Jack Anderson
>combat shotgun Oh no
Jordan Parker
Anyone?
Wyatt Collins
Does this game have an equivalent to the super shotgun from DOOM II?
Nolan Anderson
third level, have fun sneaking around.
Jack Phillips
combat shotgun
Jayden Scott
That doesn't help me decide ahhh. I keep remaking characters because I can't decide between melee, sniping, psychic etc...
Wouldn't a psy character benefit the most since you have to put points into int, and that also helps psy regen?
But then I think about all the cool guns and armor you can craft that I would never use in a psy play through...
That's pretty vague my friend, are you at floor with all the deadly robots or the raider one? If deadly robots, look for a underground entrance, if raiders, the key probably just open one the rooms
Matthew White
Pump action shotgun, not combat shotgun, combat is more like the normal rifle.
Hunter Harris
Guns are the most versatile followed by crossbows and the most versatile melee is unarmed followed by spears.
Jose Brown
Just commit to one build and force yourself to play that first. If you let your ADD take hold of you you're just gonna end up playing the first 3 or 4 hours over and over again and get bored of the game before you really experience anything.
Jason Gutierrez
I have the bloomberg key, but i need to find his room, the hostage guy said it is the room near the elevator but there is nothing in any of the rooms in level 3
Jace Collins
Can it be double barreled?
Cameron Gomez
There is one unique, double barreled shotgun but it's pretty shitty and you only get it later on, even if you sequence break you need a lot of luck to get it early on, and by early on I mean around level 15.
Joshua Martinez
I just bought this game since it's on sale. I've totally avoided the constant Yea Forums shilling and didn't watch the SSeth video either. What am I in for?
Jeremiah Lewis
>avoided the constant Yea Forums shilling and didn't watch the SSeth video either
>What am I in for? play the game faggot
Josiah Roberts
iIt is literally the rooms with shit in them, beds, bunkers, loot. You probably already lockpicked it, and the room is the far west, in the same floor
Lincoln Sullivan
Stealth sword or Psi sword. Not sure what type of weeaboo is best for a first timer
Tyler Martinez
You should be able to upgrade equipment beyond getting a shitty feat, making the parts shittier, and then just building it again with the additional components.
Tyler Ortiz
I have to download it first user...
Aaron Campbell
Double barrel wouldn't even be good in this game with how much AP reloading and firing a shotgun costs. It'd just be a shitty backup weapon.
Charles Collins
Anybody experiencing extremely slow startup times? Up to 5 minutes before the splash screen over here.
Nathaniel Ramirez
Is it actually possible to unlock Psi powers through meditation like Pasquale implied or is that not doable in game?
Justin Fisher
The shell strap exists for a reason, and AP firing cost are on point for shotguns.
Robert Garcia
Fuck, you're right i had already gotten the keycard from one of the rooms, guess im retarded for not checking my inventory. Thanks friend.
Joseph Morgan
Psi sword.
Stealth melee is the worst build in this game sadly.
Chase Young
You have to take the pill. No other option.
Bentley Miller
fuck
Lincoln Lee
Don't overthink character creation. Just make something you think is cool,
Because you are just going to die at depot A and reroll a better character having learnt what's good and bad.
Also don't take snooping. You can find secrets without it.
Luke Turner
>struggling a bit on dominating energy pistol build >finally get critical power >i'm a god now
Dylan Brooks
How can one person be this wrong.
Jeremiah Allen
...did you not get it as soon as you could?
Samuel Evans
i did i was struggling before i got it
Sebastian Anderson
Why are you naked at all?
Jose Hernandez
Enjoy your 6000 damage shots.
Wyatt Lopez
I'm going for the tanky/guns/crafter newbie build. Should I take armor sloping, or clothier?
Lincoln Watson
so i stole ethan's medallion and i realize now i needed him to teach me limited temporal increment where can i find a mentor