Why do children persist in loving GTA V so much?

Only reddit cucks glorify IV. Go back, OP.

>Nigger

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no the game where you can magically flip your car after rolling it and carry all guns at all times does not have more challenge

Why do IVtards spam threads about their shit game?

The air flip mechanic is good and you are an autistic faggot if you disagree.

Boat Simulator 4

cos V fags get soooo mad yet they have no comebacks

the driving and damage physics in GTA 5 make it almost unplayable.

i remember being shocked when it first came out, expecting it to be like GTA 4 but with less body roll.
i honestly assumed they would eventually patch it to be more like GTA 4 but it never happened.

the damage is PS1 game tier, but spinning out at top speed in a supercar (65mph in GTA 5) and coming to a dead stop within 1 second is what annoys me the most.

if they dont make big changes for GTA 6 (or just bring back unmodified physics from GTA 4) i will never play it.

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>The air flip mechanic is good and you are an autistic faggot if you disagree.
Provide a reason moron

Anyone who thinks GTA IV driving is realistic is confirmed to have never driven a car.

Yeah i waited eagerly for 2 years after that initial teaser trailer came out i was so excited and i knew something was off with the fundamentals right from the North Yankton part at the start. Such a massive disappointment

not realistic but more fun and more of a challenge

i have driven tons of cars, including some race cars in real life.

the driving in GTA 4 is not perfect (a new ferrari or porsche should not have the same body roll as a citroen 2CV), but it is still 2000 times better and more realistic than GTA 5.

Because it's stupid that you couldn't do that in a game like GTA where you car will always flip around when driving around recklessly.

>but it is still 2000 times better and more realistic than GTA 5.

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so driving should have no consequences and require no skill as fuck ups can just be rolled over? Same reason they toned down the damage isn't it? casuals

Hahahah oh it's you. This fucking autist makes this thread at least 5 times a week.

Shut the fuck up you whiny faggot

yeah isearched the board far and wide to find someone with a comeback to my points and i never do. You got one?

>calling people casuals
>playing GTA
No self-awareness, have you?

you can make something already casual even more casual goon

Just like you can always be more autistic by making these threads.

always bait you V fags though don't I? you always show up for your daily BTFOing....

You don't "bait" no one, retard, it's common sense that V is a better game than IV, you're the contrarian autismo.

>it's common sense that V is a better game than IV
no it's the opinion of children and retards as i have repeatedly demonstrated. sorry sweaty

You can't have a thread about IV without mentioning V.

Repeating something in front of a screen doesn't make it true, retardo.

Making multiple valid and salient points that the opposition cannot refute does though. Get over it sweaty

>making multiple valid points
>the air flip is good
>reeeee but I can't commit to being a retard with it
>just don't use it then
>b-b-but
Thread's closed.

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OH NONONONO

>and now for the daily autism display
Anyway. How do you deal with MKII shitters? It depends, if they are overly aggressive I go defensive, switching between the terrorbyte, MOC and Nightshark and shoot them down while they empty their rockets.

>just don't use it then
but other players can though in this MULTIPLAYER game

I've never played EFLC for IV. Is it good?

Git gud then, casual.

At least V got a good PC port.

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or i could just use the flip thing which takes the challenge out of dangerous driving entirely. no one needs to git gud on GTA 5. They are ALL casuals

Describe the gameplay you are talking about, what gamemode are you playing where flipping your car has no consequences.

every game made where you are driving dumbass. On V you just flip back. On IV you have to find a new car potentially meaning you will be without a vehicle for a while or having to make do with something far inferior. The flipping mechanic is purely in so kiddies online don't have to get out of their sharkcardmobiles

No, that doesn't work, be specific, what game mode allows you to fuck up? You seem to be talking about pvp, so, explain

4 still runs like shit for me even on a good pc. Most of the time it's fine but going from one island to another makes it chug hard and the only fix is restarting the game. This shouldn't happen with 16gb ram.

don't be pedantic i've made ht point quite clearly. Why don't you explain to me quite clearly how the flipping mechanic improves the gameplay experience beyond allowing people to continue to hold on to their sharkcardmobiles?

What? You seem bent on saying flipping has no consequences, you should have played a game mode at least once, why can't you describe it? I want to know, educate me on hardcore GTA.

because V is the newest one. They will stop loving it when VI comes out

Why do you care?

it's one of the worst ports ever made. It was best played on Xbox 360 as the ps3 version was extremely blurry

All those points could be said about IV. Except for the planes

The PC port of 4 is known as one of the worst PC ports ever. If you want to play the best version you'd have to buy an xbox one x and get a 360 copy of gta 4 and play it via back compat because the framerate is unlocked on the 360 version so on the xbox you can get near 60 fps or thereabouts. The game was quite obviously designed around the 360 hardware for whatever reason because even the ps3 version fucking sucks and isn't even HD it's like 540p.

mate it removes the consequences on free roam well enough which is more than enough for what is supposed to be sandbox game. Otherwise what? Simeons car thing and any other mode that has driving as an important component. Imagine the legendary cops n' crooks on GTA IV if you never had to leave the car when you made a huge driving mistake

no because in 2008 the tech for gta 4 made all of those things very exciting and no one cared about the lack of planes

>Simeons car thing and any other mode that has driving as an important component.
>any other mode
Such as? IIRC you need to pay upfront to fix the cars before selling, them, so flipling has consequences, what "any other mode" has no consequences, again, you were talking about pvp, please explain.

so imagine if i'm in PVP in any mode which has driving and shooting. I am being chased and take a corner or some rough ground badly and flip the car. I simply flip it back over and continue to drive. There are no consequences particularly if my car is armoured and has bullet proof tires (like most player cars). Are you suggesting that GTA V is such a poorly made game that flipping a car upside down shouldn't have any consequences? And that this is somehow superior....?

Now its your turn to explain to me how this is superior in terms of gameplay (challenge, skill, strategy etc etc) to having a car stay on its roof as it would in a world where you don't have to suspend disbelief totally (i.e the GTA world prior to V)

Daily reminder that if you agree SA is the best, then you imply that V is already better than IV by default.
IV is just a glorified tech demo for the RAGE like Table Tennis was.

Armored cars don't have protection on the windows, it's only cosmetic, and can be exploded with a few grenades, if you flip your car while on a chase you are most likely dead.

but crucially you have the option not abandon the car you paid for (preferably in R*'s eyes with the shark card which is why car flipping was added pure and simple)

gta V has better map,
GTA IV has :
>better quests that is better written, has better more adult themes, has better pacing meanwhile gta V is over by the time it starts going
>better, more memorable characters. Everyone remembers niko, roman, vlad, cindy or the hot office chick, the cop gf, the mafia bros. other than the insane guy and michael from gta IV there is nobody I remember. And I played gtaV a few months ago and gta iv years ago.
>all the extra content for gta V is in online and to play that you need to pay 10000 dollars for virtual currency so you can buy bullshit overpowered gear to rpotect yourself from griefers and hackers.
Wnat to run missions and heists online? lmao good luck nobody wants to play with you. GTA online is dead unless you were there from day one or are exceptionally autistic.

>there are kids who were born on gta iv launch date and now play gta v

I never mentioned leaving your car user, you can get shot down if you stay still, flipping creates a delay, if they are up close they can ram you and shut you down or blow you up easily.

How are the planes on IV?

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Fun

but crucially leaving your car (paid for with in game money) is the proper consequence for flipping it. Irl you flip your car it stays over and considering while i always say the debate should be which is funner and has better dynamics the plebs like to debate IV and V's driving in terms of realism - well controlling your cars gravity is not realistic at all and should put V below IV because while V is boat like at no point does it shred the rules of physics

Best in the series. I remember playing multiplayer with people from a yahoo mailing list. Such a good time.

sorry *while IV is boat like

nonexistent however they're just moneysinks on V

>but in IV
I don't care about IV, I never even mentioned it, flipping your car has many consequences, if they blow it up you need to call Moors Mutual, wait until they respond, claim it, call it again IF the cooldown timer has already run out, and then wait until the mechanic delivers it, meanwhile you have to run around hoping the other guy doesn't spawn snipe you.

car flipping was added as part of the single player you schizo.

the thread is about why why IV is superior to V though. The fact you're talking about insurance claims like they're a fun gameplay dynamic shows how far gone you really are.

not an argument.

the dynamics of which are shared with multiplayer you turbo mong. You're so close to getting it - the dynamic of the singleplayer have been negatively effected by the desire to monetize the multiplayer

I don't care about your autism user. You claim there's no consequences to flipping your car in V, you haven't backed up your claim.

>i-it was good at the time!
So it's shit now, got it.

>traffic deliberatley crashes init the player ai
So that wasn't just me?
i always knew they were trying to crash into me

yes it is. claiming insurance to recover the car you should have lost because you fucked up is both boring and casualisation.

I tried this in my shitbox, 90 percent true to how a car will react to rapid turns of the steering wheel. It becomes uncontrollable at the third turn.

in your opinion

Yes but you can't say that it was done just to appeal to the multiplayer gameplay. It was done so that ripping around off road wouldn't be infuriating and also SA had it

GTA has gone full Zelda cycle hasnt it

That depends on what the Zelda cycle is.

nope they actually thought it was a good idea to code the ai traffic to crash into the player if you haven't crashed in x amount of seconds. This is actually what V players consider FUN:

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I like that 5 brought back the color and didn' take itself so seriously, but I do miss all the cool physics shit 4 had.

objectively

prove it

Truly a game for ADHD brainlet retards.

on top of this the ai has a ludicrously accurate laser aim but to mitigate this they are programmed to take a break from shooting at you (even if they have clear shots) in order to allow the player to take cover or return fire. This, the ai traffic, and the rubbish rubberband spawn from god police is why the game doesn't feel nearly as organic as IV managed to

Because you can't mindlessly zoom everywhere?

Los Santos > Liberty City

the police system in V is the best one sounds like you came down with a case of NEW GAME BAD

already did. you can be as obtuse as you like but you're only fooling people who have no idea how good gameplay works (V fans)

No i just wonder where R*'s ability to code good AI went

>already did.
Where? I don't see any post in this thread.

SanAndreas State > Liberty City > Los Santos.

Is this post bait or ome made by someone who has never actually touched single player? Very easy to fuck cars up in single player. After a few bumps you tire is going to be at a nasty angle and probably ot doing its job anymore

No, because underaged morons complained about GTA IV being "boring" so much that Rockstar completely overloaded GTA V with "THINGS HAPPENING" for "entertainment". Mouthbreathing ADHD pea brains are only entertained if THINGS HAPPEN. ALL THE TIME.

GTAIV has vehicles randomly crash into you too

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They literally lock onto the player and their cars rubberband in speed to catch up to the player. Thats retarded. they also force your wheels to run when they ram you. meaning no matter how skilled you are at remaining in control the police can force you off the road. Again the game has removed the skill element

Let me stop you right there. No one liked IV man, You are shitting on V for the same thing IV done, Cutting features.

I like Gta V better for the sheer fact that I dont get hippos put on me whenever i try to go online

>STUPID MALAKA!

No it has organic crashes caused by circumstance not hard coded kamikaze ai

I've loved GTA IV on release and I love it today. Deal with it, you fucking clown.

This is literally what driving a car is like.

>Very easy to fuck cars up in single player. After a few bumps you tire is going to be at a nasty angle and probably ot doing its job anymore
Yeah but the deformation model is San Andreas tier. The dents are always in the same spots and always look almost the same because Rockstar couldn't be arsed to make more complex deformation work with the interior camera. GTA IV cars are displays of deformity in comparison. It's not always hyper realistic, but at least every single wreck looks different in GTA IV.

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>game has removed skill by making it harder

uh

I don't know what to tell you dude, it's done to make things more interesting.

it is no coincidence that it is the only game on xbl where i EVER found niggers, save for uno

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>game has removed skill by making it harder
game has removed fun by making it dumber. hard because of skill and hard because of hardcoding are woefully different

So, OP?

It's funny, IV got ripped apart for cutting features from SA, 11 years later and IV fags still haven't recovered. They shit on V for cutting features, In a desperate attempt at validating themselves, But the irony is lost on them.

whatever helps you cope :)

>game has removed skill by making it harder
No, GTA V has removed the reward for skill by making the police an omnipotent hivemind. GTA IV's police weren't magic borg, which a) made them move believable and b) actually made the player feel rewarded for better driving and shooting when they managed to evade police.

IV cut features while adding technology and gameplay dynamics. V cut technology and gameplay dynamics while adding features

Jetpackfags can suck a fat dick. San Andreas was hugely overrated in muh silly features.

lol nice webm fag, you do realize you werent suppose to play gta 4 in first person view.

There's hidden cameras and cellphones everywhere in the game, yes, even on mountains.

I love the cops on iv more, getting in a 6 start shootout against them feels more satisfying

so what? flip the car you either roll it or make a phonecall and have it replaced with an identical one immediately. what consequences?

t. hasn't played any GTA that wasn't V since 2009

Shame open world meme died with online shit like v online
Grindy trash
Gta v is shit only decent with mods
Iv and SA where the last true good rockstar games

You know it's trivial to lose one and two stars in V right? Especially when you get them without actually being spotted by a cop.

seriously?
Come on, step it up, what gamemode doesn't have consequences.

>360
>best version
lmao you're a fucking mong. 360 version and x1x has worse graphics and framerate and less features than the PC version

cope consolefag

*flickers your texture*

SA was the worst thing to happen to the series. The Skyrim of GTA.

you keep going back to the same point. try a different tack

I own the PC version moron and it's been bugged since launch. Its literally common knowledge the PC port sucks.

Point you haven't refuted.

YOU DONT OVERTAKE BY THE RIGHT LANE STUPID. Based AI

saying that repeatedly doesn't make it true

you don't turn right in the left lane either

What? Point me to the post where you explained why flipping has no consequences?

i've stated it clearly twice already can you not read?

soul

Then show me those posts.

That thing looks like it went through the swing set glitch

>Its literally common knowledge the PC port sucks
You have zero clue of what you're talking about, do you? A game running like shit on console, and then proceeding to run slightly less shit on PC, has nothing to do with the quality of the port. Retard.

you've read them already. However you're still yet to tell me how flipping is in any way an improvement in gameplay motivated by anything other than microtransactions

No user, you made the claim that flipping has NO consequences, back up your claim, stop deflecting.

Is this only in GTA:Online or also in offline GTA V?

>slightly less shit

Nigger you can't even max the game out on PC without massive fps dips even on a gtx 1070. You also get massive stutters if you play at anything over 60 fps and most of the time the game doesn't even go above 50 fps. The 360 is factually the most stable version to play and it was the target hardware for the game.

i backed it up here: . jesus as if you need it pointed out to you brainlet. now its your turn....

Both. Same as all the other ludicrous gameplay choices

Where exactly in your line of thinking do you conclude that the 360 version is better than the PC version

>hur dur the 360 version is better because you can't max out the draw distance on PC
the 360 version has a draw distance of 15% of the PC version's slider you utter fucking retard

And I already told you, there's a cooldown timer, meanwhile you can get killed, which resets the cooldown timer leaving you with no car until the other guy decides to stop killing you.

There's consequences, you have nothing to back up your claim.

but you can simply get your car back afterwards? considering dying doesn't cost you anything then the consequences are a mere annoyance which basically makes them nonexistent

>getting killed repeatedly is not a consequence
You have nothing to back up your claim.

this is basicly the mindeset of people who like V over IV. to them "serious consequences" means you can't do exactly what you want when you want even if its the result of you fucking up. They even prefer the new toned down physics because it means you don't stumble or fly through the air (apparently because they don't control it this is boring)

if you lose nothing from it (like losing your weapons and car on gta iv) then yes it is of no consequence You die you respawn with all your gear and you can call your car up easily, cooldown be damned

>serious consequences
No one ever said that, keep coping

>all GTA installments have been so far an arcade driving and shooting game
>until IV shows up with muh realism
>arcade-like features come back in a lighter tone in V
>IV fags think realism makes it a true GTA game when it never was realistic when it comes to driving

Go play Forza or Gran Turismo or whatever the fuck the main popular driving sim is at the market

Do you even know what consequence means? Getting killed while being chased IS a consequence of flipping your car, losing it is a consequence too. Regardless if you respawn or not, again, nothing to back up your claim.

>oh no i died and respawned with everything i had before woe is me!
Grow up

Yet again, nothing to back up your claim.

>he thinks V physics are anything close to San Andreas's physics

see:
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Now tell me why is flipping so good then? we've danced to your tune long enough I've definitely backed up my claim perfectly well.

Because its actually playable you clinical retard

>Now tell me why is flipping so good then?
I never said that.
You haven't backed up your claim yet.

been thinking of playing GTA IV again for the first time in 6 years, this time on PC. Are the bugs that bad?

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Never said anything like that.

If i changed my claim to flipping no longer has interesting consequences would that satisfy your autism?

No bugs, the game runs like shit, you need to play it on low settings.

not him but I actually played Vice City recently and it hasn't really aged well. Not as well as SA did.

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It's quite said how much V downgraded

>your autism
lol
Says the retard that makes a thread to talk about shit he doesn't understand.

GTA IV is the worst 3D GTA game. I replayed III a while after IV and realized the missions of the old game shit all over the absolute bore that IV's missions had became. Here, drive a slow ass truck for the mob, here drive some bitch to a clothing store, or some other NPC to some other place.

Rockstar turned GTA into a mundane experience with GTA IV. It's more of a tech demo, a physics showpiece than an engaging game.

so yes or no? you keep saying i haven't "backed up" my claims but i have repeatedly done so. whether or not i've proven them could still be a matter of subjective opinion but if you were arguing fairly instead of desperately flipping your tendies trying to "win" you'd be forced to admit i'm right

Last time I tried I had trouble getting it to run because of Windows Live

>he keeps responding after being completely obliterated
LMAO
Autism is a hell of a mental illness.
Last free (You) for your attention whore sore ass.

What makes 720p 40fps on low settings more playable than the PC version at 1080p 60fps on high settings?

you can't even back up your claim that i haven't backed up mine. You failed to make any proper arguments you just sperged yourself silly

not him but the fact it actually ran smoothly and doesn't crash because its packaged with games for windows live

>ran smoothly
No, GTA4 on console never ran smoothly. The Xbox version was uncapped and varies between 20-40FPS.
On X1X back compat you get between 30-50
on PS3 it's capped to 30fps but will constantly drop below

on PC you can max out everything other than draw distance (leave both at a quarter or less, this is what console versions used and is the most expensive setting) and run at 60fps with some drops into the 50s, with higher texture quality, higher shadow resolution, additional headlight shadows, custom radio stations, mouse & keyboard support, clip editor and mods.

>packaged with GWFL
then remove it you mong

GTA4 runs a lot more easily and with less fuss on Xbox than PC. That you are blatantly ignoring that the PC port is widely considered one of the worst in all of history is simply autismo sublime. All those things you are talking about can't be done comfortably on most people's PC's even today (and don't say buy a better one)

>then remove it you mong
then you can't play online you fucking spacker

GTA IV's port is badly optimized, but it being one of the worst of all time is utterly overstated. I've played it on release on a gaming laptop. Performance wasn't good at all but low settings were managable and it wasn't broken in any way.

well it sure is broken now with GFWL. i don' want to play the story again i've done it too many times i want to play online but i can't. Hell half the time the game won't even launch because of it

>a lot more easily and with less fuss
the fuck are you talking about? How is clicking install and dropping xliveless into the game folder any more fuss than dealing with shitty console performance, forced updates and paying to play online?

>then you can't play online you fucking spacker
Citizen IV-MP

This. GTA4's issues dont' stem from its port. GTA4's issues stem from the fact it's not optimised to run past 30fps and certainly not optimised for multi core PCs. As a port, it's fine. It has mouse driven menus, keybinds, graphics options, better graphics and more features than the console version.

A bad port is a game that is WORSE than the console version, not a port that suffers from the same issues born from the console. You couldn't run Crysis at launch, but some spackers here think that makes it a "bad port" and not just a "demanding and under optimised game"

Fucking retards on this board. Can you all just shut the fuck up? The board quality would increase exponentially if Yea Forums was my blog and you all just read about how fucking dumb you are and learn a thing or two.