1.48 MB PNG >TPP: being able to see your own character interact with the world in various ways, always seeing your customization and the little touches you've put on your character, seeing your character's face and other gestures in dialogues (Geralt's face had a lot of subtle nuances) >this is not immersive t. cdpr
>FPP: being a floating camera with floating hands, the only customization you see 90% of the time is the skin color of your character's hand, feeling a disconnect to the limbs of the in-game character, gun takes 1/3rd of your screen, dialogues are always locked to FPP making dialogue scene variety instantly worse >this is immersive t. cdpr
When did you realize that CDPR are nothing but a bunch of hack frauds?
>it doesn't have to be at night >it doesn't have to be in a large city >it doesn't need to be 3rd person >it doesn't need to have the different classes >it doesn't need the player to be able to use flying cars >It doesn't need accessible interiors for buildings >It doesn't need to be free of liberal bullshit >It doesn't need to have good customisation options >it doesn't need to have real dialogue choices >it doesn't need you to be able to join different factions >it doesn't need to have killable NPCs >it doesn't need to have Trauma Team as a gameplay element the player can use >it doesn't need to have destructible environments >it doesn't need to have good graphics >it doesn't matter that CD Projekt Red is staffed by Americans now >it doesn't need mod support >it doesn't need to have good box art >It doesnt need to not blow all its budget on b list actors >it doesnt need to be an RPG >it doesn't need you to be able to purchase new apartments >it doesn't need you to be able to choose different childhood heroes >it doesn't need you to be able to customise your cars or apartment >it doesn't need Cyberpsychosis to be part of the game >it doesn't matter that it's cinematic garbage >it doesn't need to not be downgraded >it doesn't need to not be GTA 2077 >it doesn't need to be single-player only WE ARE NOW HERE >it doesn't need dynamic weather systems >it doesn't need to have a branching story >it doesn't need to have massive crowds of people >it doesn't need to have substance
How are you saying all that with drink in your mouth?
Jeremiah Phillips
Obviously I swallowed the drink before talking.
David Lopez
this >It doesn't need accessible interiors for buildings >It doesn't need to be free of liberal bullshit >it doesn't need to have real dialogue choices >it doesn't need you to be able to join different factions >it doesn't need to have killable NPCs >it doesn't matter that CD Projekt Red is staffed by Americans now >it doesn't need mod support >it doesnt need to be an RPG >it doesn't need you to be able to purchase new apartments >it doesn't need you to be able to choose different childhood heroes >it doesn't need Cyberpsychosis to be part of the game is what ruineds the game for me
>it doesn't need to have Trauma Team as a gameplay element the player can use wait they said that you can call Trauma Team to fight for you
Zachary Jackson
dont mind that the gameplay is in first person, but why did they even cut third person cutscenes?? did people really hate this about deus ex and other games?
Angel Phillips
But nothing you said ruined the game for you is true?
Parker Wood
>wait they said that you can call Trauma Team to fight for you They didn't. They specifically said that TT only appears at scripted moments.
Michael Harris
It doesn't need to be a game
just stop crushing the tiny specks of hope that still remain and let me dream about what could have been
Why is FPP such a deal breaker for Yea Forums? It's a goddamn shooter. Any shooter is better in FPP. Those touches and little changes in your character's appearance weren't going to be a thing anyway. Considering all the red flags regarding CP2077 it's funny how the only sensible decision CDPR has made so far is the one that makes you mad. >contextual gameplay >little interactivity >animation-based gameplay >no flying cars >generic shooting >everyone is a nigger >everyone is a tranny >the strongest of niggers is a woman >no classes >joke of a skill tree >dumb cyberspace visualizations >hectic animations >terrible writing >abysmal voice acting >bland art direction >open world of corridors >no meaningful choices >downgrade >CDPR lying the entire time >no player houses >unkillable NPCs >empty streets All good >FPP in a shooter Well gosh golly I better cancel my preorder
Aaron Flores
Mods will fix that
Nicholas Thomas
>>animation-based gameplay Wtf does this even mean? >abysmal voice acting Sounded pretty good to me in the deep dive.
Alexander Garcia
>Deus Ex and System Shock are in first person >nobody complains
>Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be in first person >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HACKS
What gives?
Josiah Cook
>TPP: shoots you in the head from a corner without peeking once >immersive
Owen Clark
fpp gameplay is fine but why does this game bother with character customization at all if you're never gonna see it?
Tyler Sanchez
Because it's a RPG
Alexander Gutierrez
MIrrors and shit, I dunno.
Aiden James
okay but why is the customization still even in the game at this point? we may as well just play as the default look and leave it at that. its seems strange to hype up the deep character customization for years and then just throw it away.
Henry Gray
>>>animation-based gameplay >Wtf does this even mean? When "gameplay" is mostly comprised of uninteractive animations where you just come up to an "interactive" object, press X and an animation of your character doing things is played as opposed to actual gameplay mechanics with choices, failstates and, most importantly, player input accompanying the actions. You're not doing any of that. Your character is. This is acceptable in a TPP game like Hitman, but if all interaction I can have with an electronics box in a FPP game is walk to it and watch my character's hands waggle about as I scratch my balls with one hand and pick my nose with the other, that's bad game design.
Gavin Cooper
But they're going to add multiplayer. You can look at other peoples characters, maybe.
Alexander Morris
Why do you spend months of your life obsessing over the minute details of something you'll only end up spending a few hours on?
Why not practice an instrument, learn to draw, exercise, or study instead?
Life isn't a race, but at least make it somewhat meaningful, this isn't meaningful at all, you might as well be staring at the wall, so pointless.
Jordan Wilson
>why do you discuss video games on Yea Forums?
Xavier Russell
>WAAAH I CAN'T STARE AT MY WAIFUS ASS NOW
Consolebabbies and combrains BTFO
Angel Moore
Am I the only one looking forward to the game at this point? You guys latch onto anything that you can shitpost about, no matter if it's a valid criticism or not.
Cameron Perez
Kill yourself incel tranny mutt.
Landon Rodriguez
Didn't they clarify in a tweet that some cutscenes are still going to be TPP? I'm not sure they really threw away any TPP cutscenes they already had
Jeremiah Cooper
Why do you look forward to it? Name 3 things that maks you excited for it. Hard mode: no "it's being made by CDPR"
Hunter Ramirez
they only said 'occasional' cutscenes or some shit. i don't buy the whole it was 'a narrative change' for a second. something fucked up behind the scenes especially since for years they have been touting character customization as being pretty extensive.
Cooper Johnson
I really wanted to.It's very hard to be excited for this shit when all we ever saw was GTAV in the future and the reduction of RPG mechanics.
Alexander Barnes
Dont defend this game or they will call you tranny. Its theyre defense sistem. >cyberpunk Dredd theme >plot >music >attention to detail >replayability >routes and endings >ride with my cyberbike around >see the rest of the districts >badlands with mutants >gunplay looks fun We dont know more, wait for next video.
John Johnson
Basically most of what the other guy said. I just like the setting and don't really care too much about all the excuses that other anons use to shitpost like >muh sun >muh trannies >muh downgrades >muh TTP And so on. I'm not an idiot, I won't hype this game into high heaven, I just don't think it will be the next No Mans Sky or whatever. And it's not like I don't have any concerns about it either, I get the feeling that there will be less visual customization than I'd like to. I also would hate it, if the guns are all bound to a level and you have to throw you legendary lvl 5 pistol away once you found a common lvl 20 slingshot. Also the UI from the DeeP Dive demo looked like absolute trash compared to what we saw previously, that on it's own is almost a deal breaker.
Logan Stewart
I'm probably going to kill her every single playthough, just sounds annoying.
Dylan Gray
Did they ever actually use "immersion" as a reason for making these design choices though?
Justin Phillips
>>cyberpunk Dredd theme Why don't you just watch some Blade Runner or GITS if what you're looking for is just something cyberpunk themed? >>plot What do we know about the plot that makes you think it's going to be good? >>music Chippin' In is terrible, what do you even mean? >>attention to detail Examples? >>replayability None in sight. >>routes and endings Imo it looked really limited. OG Deus Ex was more advanced in this field and this game came out how many, 19 years ago if I'm not mistaken? >>ride with my cyberbike around I don't remember them showing gameplay footage of riding a cyberbike. Did they? >>see the rest of the districts Eh I guess it's a matter of taste, for me the look of the world shown in gameplay trailers does not make me excited for looking at the rest of it. >>badlands with mutants Not gonna happen. >>gunplay looks fun Does it though? It looked generic. There was like a full auto pistol, full auto SMG, a heavy MG that shot waaaaaay too little bullets a minute and a shotgun that looked really bad. >We dont know more, wait for next video. >we don't know more user please, at least be honest
Justin Scott
Their go to explanation for cutting down features is either "muh immersion" or "it's not very cyberpunk to do *insert feature here*"
Michael Wilson
If I can't play as Old Man Henderson, it's not a RPG.
Zachary Bell
Samurai isn't the only music in the game, you know.
>someone actually replied to all my post Holy autism. The efforts to shit in this game are enormous.
Jonathan Jenkins
They'll deliver something.
Thomas Torres
Sure, just dont come to this shitposting threads. This can be applied for every game.
Oliver Wilson
Well certainly they're bigger than the efforts to provide any argumentation in support of the game
Jonathan Thomas
>Why don't you just watch some Blade Runner or GITS if what you're looking for is just something cyberpunk themed? You could have at least told him to play some Deus Ex or E.Y.E., he's obviously talking about wanting a Cyberpunk video james. >Chippin' In is terrible, what do you even mean? >Eh I guess it's a matter of taste, for me the look of the world shown in gameplay trailers does not make me excited for looking at the rest of it. >Does it though? It looked generic. There was like a full auto pistol, full auto SMG, a heavy MG that shot waaaaaay too little bullets a minute and a shotgun that looked really bad. You know these are all subjective right? I'm not gonna stop you having these views on the game, but at least be aware that some people might disagree. Also they did show of the bike.
Jaxson Richardson
I'm expecting them to deliver a game with a medicore main story but kino smaller side stories and individual character moments. And the music will be good.
Joshua Richardson
Temper your expectations, don't come to these threads and I'm sure you'll find some enjoyment from playing this game. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of shitposters are just POPULAR GAME BAD people and people who had too high expectations and are now disappointed, that you in fact cannot play a confederate cyber-cop on mars who has a crush on a Jewish girl.
Easton Russell
How did I let myself be excited for this game for so long? I feel like how I imagine No Man's Sky fans felt when the game ended up being a sliver of what was originally promised, at least at launch. There's almost nothing left of the game that I was excited for. No wonder they're including the tranny shit in the character creator, it's pretty much going to be the only thing you can customize that will make any noticeable difference in your experience.
We were promised something that sounded truly revolutionary and now we're just getting GTA with a new coat of paint and an always first person camera.
Listen, people who defends this game dont come to this threads to argue with autist teenagers. We are tired of talk and being called a tranny by fucking incels. In the end you are just a bunch of goblins shitposting in a cave, and we dont care about you all.
>You know these are all subjective right? I'm not gonna stop you having these views on the game, but at least be aware that some people might disagree. Fair enough >Also they did show of the bike. Huh, must have forgot about it then
Jonathan Clark
He has had tons of practice with all the cocks in his mouth.
Nicholas White
Now I almost wish that they had gone the Star Citizen route of just eternally delaying it and releasing a pretty video every few years. At least then I could still have my dreams.
>Listen, people who defends this game dont come to this threads to argue with autist teenagers. But you never tried. I visit CP2077 threads since 48 minute video and I've seen many sensible arguments against the game and CDPR making bad design decisions. Never have I seen anyone who defends the game respond to them with honest discussion. Not once. >We are tired of talk and being called a tranny by fucking incels. I never called anyone a tranny (or an incel) in a discussion. Granted, there are people who do that on both sides, but I'd say that CP2077 defenders do that more often. I've been called a tranny/incel hundreds of times simply for criticizing the game's features. And the fact that you were the second person to use the word "incel" ITT (first one being CP2077 defender as well) is pretty telling. >In the end you are just a bunch of goblins shitposting in a cave, and we dont care about you all. Well why do you come to Yea Forums, and to CP2077 threads, if you're not interested in a discussion of CP2077 the least bit? Or are you just interested in circlejerking other people who are interested in the game simply because it has a cyberpunk theme and is nade by CDPR?
Colton Baker
Not him, but Every day the same thread. Every day it devolves into the same shit flinging contest. I honestly don't think any sensible discussion about this can be had, without some mentally deficient teenager from either side hijacking it. Also >but I'd say that CP2077 defenders do that more often I haven't been here in a while, but isn't "muh trannies" one of the points shitpostes use to criticize this game?
>Every day the same thread. Well it is a pretty big topic. >Every day it devolves into the same shit flinging contest. Not by my fault. Why don't you guys start responding to legitimate criticisms with counterarguments so we can have a fun discussion, rather than calling people names? >I honestly don't think any sensible discussion about this can be had, without some mentally deficient teenager from either side hijacking it. Ignore them and respond to those that actually provide argumentation? >Also >>but I'd say that CP2077 defenders do that more often >I haven't been here in a while, but isn't "muh trannies" one of the points shitpostes use to criticize this game? I don't know but somehow I get called a tranny all the time for criticizing CDPR's decision to remove sex choice options in favor of tranny character creation. Don't ask me for the logic behind it because I can't find any.
Juan Kelly
based & truthpilled
Hudson Stewart
I didn't but it only took me a second to realize OP is a giant cocksucking faggot.
Here's the real fucking reason why there is no TPP camera - the hallways and back allays are too narrow for a behind the back camera to work without a easy-mode lock-on, that's all there is to it you dumb spergs.
Joseph Reyes
>CDPR's decision to remove sex choice options in favor of tranny character creation. I worded that poorly but I think you know what I mean.
Jaxon Edwards
the real answer is because they are making a multiplayer mode and you need to able to brag to your friends with your grinded rare jacket or bought mtx boots
cdpr fags can't deny this is the real reason
Cameron Walker
I'm glad they went 1st person. 3rd person controls were fucking shite in the Witcher.
Cameron Bennett
nope they meant cutscenes like the one at the ripperdoc where you get your eye pulled out and see your character that way from a third person perspective
Yea Forums was really excited for this game a couple years ago, i think this years e3 and last years crushed everyone dreams. people were shitposting about the aesthethics after e3 2018 but when they started talking about tranny shit and added meme actors like keanu to the game to generate hype (because they can't with gameplay anymore) people felt betrayed
Brandon Brown
>gunplay looks fun
it looks like borderlands garbage
Evan Davis
TPP is also a floating camera only now focused on some dude whose ass you can’t take your eyes off
Xavier Lopez
>Never had any crazy expectation >Still reasonably excited for it It'll be fine.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a comfy discussion about this game, but the few times I try I either get no replies or get called names or whatever. And looking at some of the postsers in this thread, I wouldn't exactly consider most of them as someone I would like to have a sensible discussion with. Considering the majority of this "argument" are either people latching onto everything CDPR says about the game and acting like it's the worst thing ever (The sun and TTP seem like they got blown way out of proportion, if you ask me) or people who think this will single handedly save video games Though those people seem to be less common on Yea Forums So I suppose it isn't surprising why I grow more and more tired of "discussing" this game every now and then, when I do click on one of these threads
Angel Adams
Same, it's almost like people set themselves up for disappointment
Blake Hill
>I can't play dress up so it's bad The absolute state of zoomer
Kayden Anderson
Not him, but can you really blame people for calling you names? You are aloof, think you're better than anyone here and passive aggressive. Maybe your views on the game aren't the reason people call you a tranny.
just ignore the contrarian retards. 2077 is now Yea Forums's rick and morty.
Nathaniel Williams
>2077 is now Yea Forums's rick and morty. what does that even mean?
James Jones
you sound like a lame hipster
Hudson Gutierrez
The list just keeps getting longer lmao.
Aiden Price
Then stop entering those fucking threads! Jesus Christ, for once some user kindly invited you to an honest discussion on a game in a thread specifically made for that purpose and instead of discussing the game you cry how you don't like talking to people on the Internet. Get the fuck out of here you little bitch.
Nicholas Scott
Can we make a bingo chart about which feature will get cut next? If the game ends up only being 10 hours long does that count as a feature being cut?
Angel Harris
Two last digits of my post determine percent probability of Keanu getting cut from the final version of the game unless three last digits are 100 in which case Keanu is as good as gone
Imagine still seething about a shooter being in first person.
Carter Williams
But the Witcher was 3rd person! Also how can I stare at V's ass, if it's FPP, you fucking tranny!
Adrian Ramirez
The whole "look at an object during dialogue and that opens up new dialogue options" feature sounds like prime material for the cutting floor. Hell it might already be cut but they haven't just told us.
Jackson Ross
>look at an object during dialogue and that opens up new dialogue options Is that a thing? I don't remember that being in any of their videos.
Gabriel Watson
It was in deep dive when v looked at johnny wick and said "k-keanu?"
Nolan James
When you look down in game you see your gear
Jason Lee
>When did you realize that CDPR are nothing but a bunch of hack frauds? After Witcher 1. They already heavily dumbed down Witcher 2's game mechanics and complexity for LE EPIC MATURE CINEMATIC PRESENTATION and gave it an atrocious console UI and inventory system. You seriously have to be a special kind of retard to not have seen this coming.
Adam Reyes
I love the first witcher, but its a janky fucking mess and every subsequent game was a huge improvement
Evan Rogers
This, except the opposite
Matthew Sullivan
Any Witcher Chads here absolutely loving the fall of Cyberpunk 2077?
I love that this game is only going to be a hit with smoothbrain console zoomers. It's going to cement the game as shallow, casual garbage for the remainder of time. Fuck sci-fi and most of all FUCK anything with punk in its genre title.