Japanese video games

Japanese video games
>Better character designs
>Better music

Western video games
>Better graphics
>Better writing and stories
>Better gameplay
We all agree right?

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>Better writing and stories
>Better gameplay

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>Better character designs
yeah better as in they each have the same fucking retard anime face

Japan cant write good stories. Not 1 of their games have come close to this masterpiece.

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Japanese video games
>Better character designs
>Better music
>Better gameplay
>Better story
Western videogames
>Better graphics

Yeah and none of the same developer's games came close to that. Or anything recently.

>its another east vs west thread

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If Square had put faith into the entirety of the Xenogears' 6 episode plan, it probably could've competed with Planescape.

NieR Automata is good and I think taken in conjunction with the original NieR's goal of subverting jrpg/game tropes, the series could be considered a success. The writing is inconsistent but it's definitely masterful in its intent and medium-specificity.

Western art-inspired characters designed by japanese artists are the objective best.

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>posts Western design
>Japanese
>better character designs
pick one retard

>Russians
>Western

Far more western than jap

i want haydee to sit on my face

>Better writing and stories
>Better gameplay
There are far more Jap games with enjoyable plots be it genuinely well written or just entertaining than there are Western games.

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Shut the fuck up and post more haydee

No

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>>Better graphics
only a few aaa devs. and a few japanese aaa devs can compete with them

this shit is a pure ancient one every one of you always brings up. and none of them talk about its characters and shit

Nips have the problem where they never innovate and just reiterate. Both in story and gameplay. Hell, Dragon Quest is one of the most popular series there and it literally hasn't changed since the first game besides being in 3D but even now its an option. Its the same shit over and over.

Oh god stop, I'm gonna pee hahaha

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Yeah, that's why you hear so much discussion about its story, like uhhhhhhhhhhh

is that a bad thing. explain how bad it is. being "progressive" doesnt really guarantee a cultural value

>Western Games
>Better Gameplay

Ayo hol up

Planescape is literally the one decent western video game story in a sea of absolute dogshit, and it's only considered amazing because the bar is so low.

If you made me choose between the hundreds of decently written Japanese games, or the one competently written western game, it's a complete no-brainer. Even if I thought Planescape was the best story ever in video games, that wouldn't change shit.

Western devs push the border of realism, yeah, but I wouldn’t say the popular realistic style is inherently better than a stylized approach (p5, windwaker, jsrf, katamari)

Prior to 1990s

European games
>best everything (Amiga)

>990s - 2005

Japanese video games
>Better character designs
>Better music

Western video games
>Better writing and stories
>Better gameplay
>Better graphics


2000-2005 transitional periods, Polish developers join "west" , Larian joins "west"

2005 SJWs reach the apex point of destroying all of pop culture,

Now:

Japanese video games
>Better character designs
>Better music
>Better writing and stories
>Better gameplay

Western video games

>Better graphics (debatable as the character designs have become so bad the tech is now largely wasted on them)

It's weird, westerners are better at innovating games, but shit at refinement.

Nips are better at refinement, but shit at innovating.

BUT

It's completely the opposite for movies compared to anime:

>capeshit: endwoke #1231342432

vs.

>some other niche anime sci fi or fantasy idea that no one else dared to do because it didn't get a fat director's couch warmed and a few million paid out to preachy hollywhores.

Anime is intensely derivative, it always has been. Western shit just fell off the deep end, and now the only movies that make any money are reboots and sequels.

i want to bite and lick those thighs so bad bros
FUCKKKKKKK IM GOING TO FUCKING ORDER POLLO LOCO FOR PICKUP TOMORROW AAAA

capeshit comics are absolute trash on all levels. if you want to compare capeshit to anime you should cartoons to anime. why do you suddenly bring blockbuster shit here.

>Better writing and stories


oh nononono

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you think that West had Japan beat in gameplay or graphics during SNES/Genesis generation. And then aside from few standouts like Insomniac and Rareware, same thing kept on for PS1/N64 generation.

how about a western game that isnt 20 years old?

All Japanese writers rip and steal anything that isn't nailed down. Everything outside of FFX is a complete and shameless ripoff.

Japanese anime > Western video games > Japanese video games > Western cartoons

Yeah I typo'd the fuck out of it and meant to segment off the 90s as nip total domination.

It should have read 90s then 2000-2005 when things got murky. They are back on top again due to SJWs undermining every advantage the west has, hilariously.

>this delusional

its funny tho i couldnt imagine years ago that westerners would be this upset over japanese media. the influence of western geek media has really fucking weakened.

capeshit is basically cartoons, you can replace "capeshit" with "disney" if it makes you feel better

>why blockbuster shit

Well there's the fact that Japan has no lefty-corp alliance like hollywood and anime is their best vehicle to express cinematic ideas.

>2000-2005 when things got murky
Not on consoles. There was a period between about 95-05 where western PC games were decent, mainly because Japs can't make shooters due to motion sickness.

>capeshit is basically cartoons
wut
its called live action. not cartoons. also anime shows dont aim for the super mass global market. the global film industry is all about aaa products. pretty much monopolised by american mega corps. no other western film companies like euro ones can compete with it in the market either

What does Japan going for it besides banking on nostalgia?

And I'm not upset, I'm just tired of seeing the same waifu and musuo shit for over a decade now.

>2005 SJWs
>Apex point
Too early. They certainly existed, but back then they were so small and marginal that most other people still considered them to be a bunch of bizarre campus extremists, like the left's analogue to the skinheads. It wasn't until around the early 2010s that they really started to get momentum and positions of power to ruin everything.

Most of the current crop of SJWs with occupations of power are millenials in their mid-20s/early-30s. Back in 2005 they were literally still kids. Annoying kids, but powerless.

95% of all japanese games suck ass also
>japanese games
>better character designs
actual spermskull

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Have played any japanese games this decade?

im not saying japan is getting any better, but its actually not secret anymore that the west is getting worse and worse at a incredible fast pace.

the actual consumers dont think like anime is mediocre or outdated, especially zoomers and kids. you should learn about other industries like the comic/the cartoon industry or if you already know it its about time to take criticism. the current state of the american industry is actually a fucking disaster.

i for one strongly hope the geek market is "healthy" like japan and america can compete with each other, show their own cool shit to each other, but things arent like that.

I have to agree with you. Maybe the next good games will come from Europe? They have good indie games.

Japan hasn't changed in the past 30 years, I don't see it ever changing. I consider them poison for hgaming
at this point.

America also at least still has a healthy indie scene.

>Japan hasn't changed in the past 30 years
But that's a good thing

>better character designs
no

literally play any game released this year, dmc5 alone shits on any action game ever released in the entire history of western gaming

>It's a good thing Japan is stagnate and creatively bankrupt.
No.

euro games just follow american trends. its the same as american games. only slavs are making some unique games. do you even know most indies are niche shit like the modern american 2D cartoons.

whats the "change" of the western media? dont tell me its usual progressive shit. the replacement of preexisting established/popular icons is not a change or a progress of a genre at all. according to your logic, for instance, your honorable capeshit hasnt changed in the past 60 years and the stories have been totally fucked up.

Would you prefer they "innovate" into more walking simulators and AAA trash?

>starting a Control thread

>western gaming
literally nothing but 3rd person loot shooters and sports games as far as the eye can see
>japan this year
survival horror, monster hunter, god tier action games with fresh mechanics (dmc5 and sekiro)
you're not fooling anyone

God I want to worship that crotch and eat her out

All the best indie games are coming out of europe and the americas.

I don't think any of those story-dry invincible dodge roll games you listed are good, at all.

you sound absolutely casual. tell me your favorite indies that arent popular.

>you're casual
>I'm hardcore

And you have to be older than 18 to post here.

no.
its retarded to even ask.

you must be a typical twitter user with a western cartoon avatar playing only popular indies like undertale. you are the same as those normies only playing western aaa games and know nothing other than popular stuff. you should play non american/euro indies like va11 at least to learn whats going on there even if it looks "weeb" and "unhealthy" to you

out of kindness ill tell you again. its true that the american geek industry is now a fucking clusterfuck, and no zoomers/kids are reading american comics and watching american cartoons. it will happen in the american video game industry soon or probably its already given that games like nier 2 sold well unlike the original last gen.

>this thread
Do people seriously think japanese games have good stories and gameplay? Most of their gameplay design is stuck in the previous millennia and their stories are all the same, just like anime. Watch one and you've seen them all.

>I have never played a japanese game

Name a game with good gameplay then? Ignore the story for now, since that is subjective. Japanese don't know any better since they don't play anything else other than their own garbage.

Current millennia gameplay is designed for mental cripples, so good on the japs.

>Better music
Jap music all sounds the exact same. Jesper Kyd, Jeremy Soule and Marty O'Donnel are three western composers that make better and unique music instead of typical jrpg orchestra.

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I heard Jesper Kyd was stuck on Assassin's Creed the other day, couldn't believe it until I looked it up. Might as well be dead.

>UX is for mental cripples

>better gameplay
OP is a confirmed retard

What do you mean stuck on Assassins Creed? Like he couldn't finish the game?

Also, Soule? Fucking Soule? The quintessential generic ambience guy? That's what you're going with for unique music?

This.

You may not like it, but this is peak Haydee.

Literally who

Soule's atmosphere music works very well and makes him unique like the other two, much bettee than the typical hollywood movie tier schlock in every jrpg
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Known way more than any jap game composer

Are you just being retarded on purpose

Kyd hasn't been unique since before you were born, guy.

>Better gameplay

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What the fuck are you taking about, you fucking retard. Are you a garbage writing and shit gameplay lover or something?

Feels like people here get their game design knowledge from Yea Forums and journalism.
Every other post mistakes gameplay with game mechanics.

ugh mommy

So desperate to make western games look still alive. Western games are just trash. The graphics have stagnated too. Don't try to bury garbage like Fallout games. Gears 5 was hilariously bad too.

you fuck should try playing games from before 2010

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