Currently about to do stage 6 of route A , honestly I'm not enjoying it, maybe I picked a boring character (Amazon) , I dunno but the combat really isn't great even for a beat up its just dogpiling with your AI allies.
Aesthetically beautiful but the combat is just way too dull for me and I really don't see myself playing through Route B either or the side quests. So what am I missing ?
Game was meant to be played handheld under your sheets.
>So what am I missing ?
Nothing, it's just more of the same. Maybe try some of the other classes, like Dwarf or Sorceress.
Elf is objectively the funnest class.
also best girl
see, I would love to try the other classes, THE PROBLEM is that the game punishes you for that , I am already doing level 12 dungeon, starting a new character from scratch would mean replaying the entire game until where I am right now. Is that truly worth it ?
Play online or resurrect a higher lvl char
You can always just rush through dungeons.
What do you mean resurrect a higher level character ?? I understand the Resurrection system but you can't play as characters you resurrect
it's boring to play alone, odin's sphere and muramasa have much better combat
Square x 50
Hmmm.
What if...all these games, Dragon's Crown, Muramasa, and Odin sphere...but on the Switch?
I mean the Vita is dead and buried, and the Switch is the Vita 2.0 with weeb games coming on it left and right.
So why not?
>Was touted as a sequel to the CAPCOM D&D arcade games
>Combat was way too simplistic ,game ends resemling more a bad version of The King of Dragons with fancy new visuals
What did Vanillaware mean by this?
what's your point?
I fell for the developing a close combat elf meme, instead of buffing range options like you are supposed to.
the game has been updated since ps3/vita release.
new characters can skip the first run, and get the completed quest skillpoints from other characters.
resurrect high level dwarfs if you want an easy time.
the game has 4 difficulties and 2 randomized dungeons, which are the meat of the game. the first one is 100 floors and the other is 50,000.
Are you playing alone? I had brother and cousin playing with me It was pretty fun but couldn't unlock cap for their characters and only main one I think so we stopped.
yup, I'm alone, don't have a choice on that desu.
Wowowow you guys already Tell about "builds" in two threads...what i can fuck up in builds?Tell me about a good fighter one to see If i fucked up
mhmm, yea no. I will try playing the other characters maybe for a couple of levels to see if I get a feel for them but I definitely do not enjoy this games combat enough to play through all those floors, I barely want to play route b
>playing with AI
I remember turn that shit off and beating the game solo.
You've discovered the truth behind every post-Muramasa Vanillaware game.
It's a button masher with the depth of a puddle.
why the fuck would i punish myself like that ?
people that say DC is a button master just play one play through with amazon and put the game down after that.
>mhmm, yea no
Don't play it if you really don't want to, dude.
The ai gets more useless on higher difficulties so it becomes a solo anyway.
Switch is a nintendo console and after muramasa on Wii vanillaware is not going to put games on nintendo
casters are really the only fun classes to play. Resource management combined with big dick damage spells and loads of different attacks depending on which staff you use.
Melee and Elf are boring by comparison cause they're so limited in their playstyle.
I have this problem where I try to get through a game I've paid for until I want to basically snap the disc before I decide to completely drop it forever. I don't like wasting money or making quick assumptions so I need to be sure of my decision
Get the damage buff on blocking one. Congratulations, you did it.
Elf was fun If I remember correctly it was jumping around, mobility and stuff like that.
It's been a long time since I played.
> I don't want to waste my money, so I will also waste my time
that's the sunken cost fallacy for you
I have alot of time to waste and as user said sunken cost fallacy is a thing I experience because I don't spend money on games willy nilly.
I've made my decision tho, after playing for little while, I've deleted and dropped it
Did you seriously only play one class?
More allies raises the difficulty and makes enemies spongier, so I avoided using them.
It’s not a particularly deep game, you play it to turn your brain off and enjoy the lewd art and treasures.
>muramasa on Wii vanillaware is not going to put games on nintendo
Muramasa on Wii was a hit. Sold better than Odin Sphere or GrimGrimoire on PS2. Also Kumatanchi sold great on DS.
The fact that dragons crown was never ported to the switch is a goddamn crime... even if vanillaware and nintendo have beef.
It really doesn't matter.
Inform yourself on the history, Vanillaware and Nintendo had strong disagreements in the past.
>Inform yourself
based retard
That's sorta how it works, yes.
no need for those passive aggressive remarks, could've just left it at
>anillaware and Nintendo had strong disagreements in the past.
>Not having the three girls as AI/sex Alves to you Chad Fighter/Dorf/Wizard
Lol what a gay
are you playing it alone?
game is not meant to be played handheld but couch coop at least with a buddy, optimal with 3
>Nintendo and vanilaware have a beef
Quick rundown?
When the game first came out it was fucking awesome. There were a ton of people online and it was a really fresh experience.
Can't imagine there's a whole lot of activity on it anymore, but goddamn I had a blast with it back during release. Also, unlike most games it was actually pretty fun to play while stoned.
And playing with others makes it a graphical mess where you can't tell what's going on on the screen
Hey, is the west ever going to get the expansion pack the Jappos got?
>expansion pack
What, you mean pro? That's already out.
Vanillaware didn´t had any issue with Nintendo but with MARVELOUS translation back then. Source or bullshit.
>its just dogpiling with your AI allies
you really should start playing either solo or with friends because the AI is worthless in the real game
get used to reading enemy telegraphs and parrying with the amazon, a successful parry into a well timed critical smash to fuck shit up is one of the most rewarding things you can do in vidya period
it's not super deep, but it has enough variety and the loot/build game is good enough to justify playing it for hundreds of hours
I prefer the more technical elf play but amazon's still fun as hell, you just have to change your mentality on the game
You can solo the entire game as elf?
No AI?
How do you do enough damage etc?
I think i've been playing this game wrong, i keep hearing about people that solo the entire game + endgame but i don't understand what you're doing differently.
When i played everything had massive bloated HP and hit like a fucking truck and i never did enough damage, what are you doing to make this all more viable?
I think they don't get hit, mainly.
you can turn it off at the inn so only other players join online, or you can close the slots completely which is required for certain quests
No i understand that, what i don't get is how this changes the game into being soloable.
Is the scaling with other party members THAT huge?
If you go full solo does it suddently make all the enemies and bosses less bloated?
I played elf online on release, so my dps strategy was overusing salamander oil, poison and upward arrows so the damage area remains there for a while.
>You can solo the entire game as elf?
yes
>How do you do enough damage etc?
with elf? use arrows and magic
for anything below inferno lv 1 coatings work fantastically too
also eventually you begin getting better gear, though no enemies have really bloated HP pools
that and pretty much learn to perfect dodge
and yes, their HP does go down significantly
the thing is that HP values in this game are balanced around the fact every character has a gimmick beyond their basic attacks they need to be using constantly for proper DPS
and the AI can't do any of that shit
though honestly everything below inferno goes by so fast wasting points into salamander oil and poison is like investing into backstab for anything more than memes
just go for that elemental lore since early on and have fun
Yes, the boss hp scales with the number of players. Companions make the game a bit of a visual mess anyway so I prefer to just play solo.
Ok, i think i've been playing this entire game completely wrong so far.
I'll try it again solo next time i play it.
I love Muramasa and Odin Sphere and this game was my least favorite just because of how spongy the bosses were.
I'm glad there's a way to make it feel closer to other Vanillaware games.
there is no expansion pack, Vanillaware doesn't do dlc
You just get good. The game isn't even hard to solo if you play the Amazon or Dwarf. The casters are harder, but doable on a second play through.
Everything's a tutorial until you unlock the B routes. Then shit hits the fan.
I'm thinking about picking up Ninja Saviors, but do you guys have any recommendations for a beat 'em up that feels like a journey? Despite the downtime, I really liked how Dragon's Crown felt like an adventure. Can anyone recommend anything else in that vein? MUA3 is also on my radar even though it's not a traditional sidescroller.
Also, the difference between classes in this game is amazing. I started with Amazon and couldn't believe how different the mechanics were for Wizard. Shit's awesome and really makes it worth it to replay the game.
Castle Crashers and the DnD Capcom beat 'em ups. Guardian Heroes as well.
I honestly think Dragon's Crown would've been a better game if it started at Hard difficulty. On Normal the game has no strategy.
>AI allies
That's your mistake. Try to play solo.
Odin Sphere and Muramasa were flukes. Dragons crown is shit and so will 13 sentinels.
