Older games will always look better on CRTs. Why don't you have a CRT for your old games...

I'm thinking of getting a 20-incher...

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This is how it's set up. The games are run on a Raspberry Pi, which is plugged into a converter via HDMI. The converter is plugged into the CRT TV via VA cables.

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Are you that guy that really likes Cotton?

I have an OSSC tho

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Run 2D games at 240p
otherwise they'll look like shit
see

Is that component out? If it's composite it's gonna look like crap

>pic
Most overrated CRT in the world.

I have a 20 inch with a built in DVD drive. I currently have my og Xbox hooked up and had a blast replaying Halo 2.

because I'm not a faggot who cares about how the games look, I just wanna fucking play em

I have like 12

>The games are run on a Raspberry Pi
Found the problem.

>OSSC
Does it work good for PS2 as well?

No, I'm European

Yeah, looks great
Here's some captured video
twitch . tv /some1cp/v/476596415?sr=a

>using a fucking samsuck shitmaster penis2470homonigger
Wow, maybe you could do yourself a favor and get a monitor worth more than 1/5th of your rgb output meme machine.

>LE TRINITRON!!!

This is true, this monitor sucks ass. Luckily I got another one and this one looks fantastic. Here's Castlevania SOTN running on a legit PS1.

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Crash
(The dithering is actually done by the PS1 itself, not the video equipment.)

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Looks very crisp and clear, thanks.

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Idk if you're being sarcastic or not, but it looks blurry due to the 480p output of the PS2.
Without scanlines

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>muh trinitron
get a CRT people actually owned in the 90s first

You haven't even adjusted the aspect ratio properly.

Why? PVMs were the displays these games were made and tested on.

I put it in 256x240 pixel perfect optimized mode, not 4:3

no they're the displays they were advertised on in malls, nobody had that shit

Game is 4:3 though

Modern NTSC/scanline filters work just fucking fine, thanks. No need fir a heavy expensive shitty tube tv

this
S-video on a consumer set is the most authentic way to play
compoosite and RF are too much eye cancer

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Nobody advertised PVMs in malls, dude. They were sold to professionals, i.e., people working in an industry.

Trinitrons happen to have the same aperture grille tech, which makes them the best easily available analogue. But if you aren't a zoomer, you should have a few PVMs kicking around in your house because you should've bought them well before retro youtubers became popular, when companies would literally pay you to take them away.

If you're going for the 90s kid experience, you want to play on an old dogshit 80s set through RF or composite. If you want the intended experience, you play with RGB on a decent monitor.

The circle on the upper left gets squashed on 4:3. Things like balls also get squashed, so I put it in pixel perfect and they look like actual circles now.

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>But if you aren't a zoomer, you should have a few PVMs kicking around in your house because you should've bought them well before retro youtubers became popular
nobody fucking owns PVMs because we all had actual old TVs
>If you're going for the 90s kid experience, you want to play on an old dogshit 80s set through RF or composite. If you want the intended experience, you play with RGB on a decent monitor.
yeah the developer's equipment is what they intended consumers to see, when they knew everyone likely had 5-10 year old TVs
it's like you run a store on ebay that sells old Sony CRTs, there's always at least one of you gays in these threads

>nobody fucking owns PVMs because we all had actual old TVs
I've got a few old TVs kicking around, I threw most of them out years ago because CRTs became worthless, and the only ones worth keeping are unusual models or professional displays.

When the editor was mastering a movie on film, do you think he was thinking about the experience someone would get in a dogshit theater playing a heavily degraded 6th generation copy of that film at the end of its lifespan? Was he thinking about the pan and scan video that would be released years later? No, he was thinking about the first print run, because that's all he would ever watch.

It's the same thing with games. You only really think about the display its built for, and if it's built for TV and all you have are professional monitors, all you're going to be thinking about is how it looks on your display, 99% of the time.

>unblended dithers out the ass on PSX and Genesis titles on anything above composite
Just like the developers intended™

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>decorates with toys
eww

just get these sets for $250, rate

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Why are you comparing pixel perfect to composite? Do you think PVMs are pixel perfect?

it's not composite you retarded, kega fusion has some blur filters built in.

Man psx games look terrible with all that dithering going on. RGB showed me something I never even thought about. Luckily the OSSC scanlines can mask the dithering well.

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That's a beautiful setup desu.

Given the first one is a worthless 14" display, I can't imagine the rest being any better.

C

All three are RGB capable broadcast monitors.

That was just an approximation of composite, this is the real deal.

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So? If they're 14", they're worthless. 20 is the absolute minimum I'd consider playable.

CRTs are to games what beer is to ugly chicks

>all those toys
cringe

Why get bulky, old TVs that are going to critically fail in the near future, with almost nobody to repair them, when you can get an OSSC that adds 0 lag to the console output?

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The last set is 20" retard

>that adds 0 lag to the console output?
You are aware this is physically impossible right?

U

i had one, but i gave it to my mom for easy watching from kitchen

CRTs are comfy especially during the winter

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>>that adds 0 lag to the console output?
>You are aware this is physically impossible right?
meant for

Literally everything succumbs to entropy eventually.

>It's the same thing with games. You only really think about the display its built for, and if it's built for TV and all you have are professional monitors, all you're going to be thinking about is how it looks on your display, 99% of the time.
I guarantee that is 100% wrong in the case of vidya development, they would not be worried about how the game looks on anything BUT the consumer's hardware.

That's why they would need a display they can see raw visuals with, so they can compare their art's methods to the actual end user's experience.

And here's what it looks like on an actual PVM, buddy.
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I do, 30” Panasonic crt next to my usual tv.

Playing radiant silvergun lately. Tough game.

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>old games designed around shitty component cables and shitty CRTs smoothing out the pixels
>retronerds go out of their way to buy PVMs with RGB cables that makes everything look blocky again
What is the FUCKING point?

>snes
cringe

>even with minimal lag from the external scaler, any LCD will add much of its own
>CRTs commonly found for $0, OSSCs found for $150
>not comfy

The OSSC doesn't use a framebuffer, it sends the lines to the HDMI output as soon as it gets them, that's why not all TVs are compatible with it, because it non compliant. Go watch some OSSC videos on YouTube, they test it for lag, and it literally does not exist. Unless you have a camera faster than the electronic signals traveling through the cables. The framemeister adds 1-3 frames of lag while the OSSC adds 0.

all my older games are just emulated on pc at this point, and the space a CRT takes up really isn’t worth it to me.

>SNES version
Worse in every way and also doesn't use dithering.

i hate trannys.

These old CRTs are still gonna outlast most of the modern devices you currently have at home.

I blame emulators and youtubers.

>they would not be worried about how the game looks on anything BUT the consumer's hardware.
The consumer could be running 500 different hardware configurations, along with a multitude of options including SCART, Composite, and even RF. Games were not designed to take all this into account, they couldn't do it even if they wanted to.

The only games made with the screen in mind are arcade titles and products with a built in screen.

My literal favorite art style. Capcom used to make games that looked like that too.

The problem with this line of reasoning when it comes to video output in games is that the answer is always so dissatisfyingly "it depends" whenever these sorts of things come up. Because whatever you're looking for be it "what the developer intended you to see" or "what looks the best" the answer is going to change on a game by game basis. This is why Nintendo even included a raw pixel, CRT filter, and 8:7 modes on there retro mini consoles.

Some games were designed on professional video monitors for professional video monitors using RGB output and an 8:7 aspect ratio and others compensated for composite over coax stretched to 4:3 on bog standard CRTs and every conceivable permutation of those. So you'll never have a definite answer as to the optimal way to play every game because every game was different. If you're playing Streets of Rage II or Pitfall TMA go for composite, if you're playing Chrono Trigger or SotN go for RGB and stretch it to 4:3, if you're playing Super Metroid or Super Mario World, 8:7 is the way to go.

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neat set up, user.

it is not literally lagless. if only nanoseconds, everything has SOME lag, and it is measurable with the right equipment, so anyone advertising a product as having "no lag" loses credibility out of the gate.
and even if you don't know the precise amount of lag, measuring it in frames is unga bunga.

I thought sotn was 8:7

Get a CRT monitor not a TV lmao

I might even live under a staircase, but i'll never be the character of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises? Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

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The optimal way is the true way the developers objectively intended, which is the original console output.

Ok now you're just being pedantic. If you wanna go down to the electrons, sure there will be some difference, even between different cables. The OSSC does not add any measurable lag by anyone who isn't a physicist researcher.

>as developers intended

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They are out of stock

Got mine from bitfunx on AliExpress

>The consumer could be running 500 different hardware configurations, along with a multitude of options including SCART, Composite, and even RF.
You gonna just sit there and act like they didn't know what the average person was using to play games?

>ah yes I cook my meat with fire and wood, not a stove
>The way my ancestors intended

if you can get a good broadcast crt then sure, but these are really expensive and I wouldn't recommend spending that much money on novelty.
don't buy consumer grade crt tv
don't spend 300$ on pvm
If you can get pvm from a hospital or old market then do it and enjoy

t. 14" jvc with svideo/rgb and 750 tvl

Hey retard, theyre working on a cgi cinematic. And they work at a sony company that has sony products that they fucking manufacture.

Stop posting.

Also the guy saying his worthless ossc product doesn't add input lag because a youtube comment said so in a video showing the latency (but it somehow doesn't matter because it's shown on a high speed camera ?!?) is a moron.

Show me a video, an article or a comment proving that the ossc has lag.

I waited 26 years to get rid of those bulky ugly things, I'm not going back just because you're too young to remember how much they suck.

Not a good shot but what I got

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stick to reading youtube comments that make you feel better bud

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CTRs are too good for old console games. You need a shitty TV.

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Better than reading anonymous Yea Forums posts calling me a retard for stating a fact that has been independently shown by several people.

>prove to me that digital signal processing takes time

Uhh, okay

Reality. There you go, proven

doesnt even look good whatsoever, you have no detail in darker areas

the absurd fetishism with this stuff to the point that you arent even evaluating the output quality is basically like niggers wearing beats by dre. it's sad

3 scanlines of delay. OSSC Uses a linebuffer.

>Hey retard, theyre working on a cgi cinematic. And they work at a sony company that has sony products that they fucking manufacture.
How does this disprove anything he said?

>Stop posting.
Don't like hearing the truth?

>JVC

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it was a bad screenshot because my hands shake alot so you got the extra blur from that..
Just compare Valkyrie here to the first shot

There are even speedrunners considering using the OSSC with specific low lag TVs, but stay inside your bubble.

scanlines are fucking ugly

This. Just a decent upscaled/source converter.

Speedrunners play on whatever meme garbage they see.

Don't we have some good shaders for this stuff to these days?
I mean, we need some official support for this, it's not fair...why?

Ok bro show me the ossc lag.

They just emit a comfy, cozy feel when you're playing on one.

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blur is not what i am pointing out, your set has no brightness because its dying

Maybe if you didn't grow up in them. I can't fathom wanting that massive, bulky trash in my house in almost the year fucking 2020.

But then again, your wallpaper.

It's not actual people in these discussions, its life failures

That's the electromagnetic radiation you're feeling coming from the cathod Ray tube

>blur is not what i am pointing out, your set has no brightness because its dying
Look at the nob on the bottom left. I have brightness set to the lowest

you will never be able to emulate the color glow of a CRT with any modern display

shit's like watching a glittering fireworks event
games like Streets of Rage were gorgeous with all those colors

make me faggot

owned, you made the claim it has no lag, burden of proof is on you to prove it.

yeah and that looks like hot garbage homie

congrats, you have some old garbage lying around in order to produce a worse image than your phone would

This picture is fake, look at the crappy photoshopping on the guy on the left's face.

no it's literally the phosphor coating glowing

not a big deal when you own a home with plenty of rooms
>wallpaper
it's a bed sheet.

well radiation me up nigga. can't be any worse than the shit going through the airwaves these days.

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somebody tell this guy where all the respectable people post around here so he can be with his kind

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>own a big home with plenty of rooms
>so you can hunch over a crt and play gameboy pokemon

cringe

get a job

lol. what are you even saying?

Looks fine to me.

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T

that people who buy crts and post them on Yea Forums are pathetic

you know how people who grew up with crts feel about them? we were so glad to be rid of them and never see them again

fetishizing shit from before your time taht you dont understand is just embarrassing

PS Video games are better now than they have ever been

yeah crt-easymode filter with blarggs shader of your choice if you're not too autistic

JVC is great, what are you on about?

Why do zoomers always insist on pretending they were "around" for CRTs? We get it, you saw your dad looking very happy to throw out the massive display he threw his back out on, and you thought this meant that the replacement was better.

No, it means your father was a fucking retard who knew nothing about picture quality. Don't feel bad, most people have no clue. Most displays aren't even color calibrated.

"NOOOOOO YOU CANT BUY CRTS AND POST THEM HERE I DONT LIKE THEM"

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>"A PVM monitor has no input lag at all, an OSSC has no input lag, but most displays it connects to will have some. A PVM is compatible with light guns, an OSSC set up isn’t. A PVM handles 240p to 480i transitions perfectly, an OSSC setup loses the picture for at least a split second."
videogameperfection.com/forums/topic/does-the-ossc-replace-pvm-monitors/#post-22286

>"The OSSC came in at 0.51 frames of Lag on the manual test and the video lag test seems to be around 1 frame. I spoke with Matt Buxton from Video Game Perfection and he said that the OSSC is essentially Lag free, and that the lag is likely being introduced by the monitor itself. Considering its a consumer grade monitor and not a digital PVM he is most likely correct."
>"To summarize: OSSC is Lag Free, TV is NOT"
>"The Framemeister came in at a very respectable 0.8 frames of lag on the manual test, but the video lag test indicates lag of about 2 frames."
krsthink.blogspot.com/2017/10/video-upscaler-shootout-framemeister.html

>"The OSSC is a line doubler/tripler. It takes the source image from one of its various inputs, and throws the image directly to the display scanline by scanline, either doubling or tripling it as it goes. There’s zero frame buffer, and therefore zero lag. Any input lag you get with the OSSC is purely the fault of the television or display used."
richretro.wordpress.com/2016/12/18/ossc-open-source-scan-converter-review/

>"this is the OSSC. It's a line multiplier with 2ms of added input lag (so virtually no added lag)"
exclusivelygames.com/forum/forum/retro-classic/15783-anyone-else-into-hdmi-modded-or-fpga-retro-consoles

>"For the OSSC I get the fantastic result of 0-1 frames delay including the delay of my monitor, while the Framemeister comes in at a still great 1-2 frames input lag."
blizzz.ovh/rgb/ossc.html#inputlag

youtube.com/watch?v=f_NRvpi4QJs

I thought good displays had a wider color gamut than CRTs

the face that you are most likely younger than me and have no idea what you blabbering on about is quite bothersome.

>frames of input lag!!!!!!!!!!!!!

guess how much we obsessed over this during the CRT era

"NOOOOOO YOU CANT BUY THE OSSC AND PLUG YOUR OLD CONSOLES TO MODERN TVS THE DEVELOPERS DIDN'T INTEND FOR IT IT HAS 3 LINES OF LAG"

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>you know how people who grew up with crts feel about them? we were so glad to be rid of them and never see them again
pretty sure those of us who lived through the 80s and 90s know you're an idiot

flatscreens are great in that they are flat, and they do offer pixel perfect detail, but they will never properly top a good CRT when it comes to playing old games and seeing them properly

sprites and dithering aside there is just a general appearance that's missing, and games were made with the CRT's natural limitations and qualities in mind so all of that shit is lost on a new screen

Why can't you read your own sources? "Virtually no lag!" is not the same thing as "zero lag". What do you think these people are using as the fucking control, dude?

I think PSX/SAT games look better on my 4k set through the Retrotink 2x than on a CRT.

LOL

I'm talking about a literal visible glow that comes from the screen itself, each color was visibly bright, not just displayed flatly on a screen

An LED monitor accomplishes that

Ok Mr pedantic, it has 3 lines of lag.

not really, the light is reduced to such a degree that colors are not nearly as pronounced
the colors are vibrant but they don't "glow" the way a CRT does

Who else played this

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Light gun games never ever LCDfags.

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What did you use to capture that footage

>but they will never properly top a good CRT when it comes to playing old games and seeing them properly

good thing i played those old games in the 80s and 90s then, jesus fuck, move on with your life

>"properly!!"
you cant enjoy them in the atmosphere of the 80s/90s
food doesnt taste the same
the air doesnt smell the same
society and the world are totally different

you can NEVER go back

I have one too. I regret buying it. Even in game mode flat screens have awful input lag compared to crts

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Are you using tvs or monitors? LCD TVs have atrocious input lag

VR is good enough to emulate light guns, unfortunately all the devs involved are incompetent and none of them feel like working on emulators.

The newer product like the Sinden light gun seem to eliminate the accuracy issues that have plagued home lightguns based on shitty IR tech, so this statement won't be true for long.

And finally, half the fucking light gun cabs out there are LCD, or CRTs using off-screen sensing via IR. If you've played a HotD2 deluxe cabinet or newer, you've probably been playing on an LCD compatible system without even realising it.

LCDs have been capable of playing light gun games for over 20 years, the problem is that arcade tech is built to specification with high quality, and home tech has to take into account too many variables and also be cost-competitive.

Dazzle DVC100. I used one of those cables that has composite and s-video and recorded in s-video. It's not "real" s-video but it works for recording to the capture device and outputting to the TV without splitting the signal any further.

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>seeing them properly
this is subjective
one could argue that a pixel perfect display without CRT limitations is “proper”

>Even in game mode flat screens have awful input lag compared to crts

good modern tvs have

>and games were made with the CRT's natural limitations and qualities in mind
people always spout this shit and it's always wrong

>the devs are incompetent!! instead of opening new doors to completely new experiences using VR, they don't want to emulate old lightgun games! REE!!!!!!!

>pixel perfect is proper
you can't argue that because spritework was done specifically to use a CRT's natural color blending

How do light guns work with LCDs? Do they just take the display delay into consideration while measuring the spots on the screen?

>spritework was done specifically to use a CRT's natural color blending

No, it wasn't. This is said over and over and over and over and there are literally a handful of examples where this was employed in the real world

spritework was started on fucking graph paper a majority of the time. certainly NOT meant for display on any CRT and in effect, designed pixel perfect from the ground up!!

>arry porrer on psx

I don't think the problem is dithering there

TV 55 inch 4I that stutters in pure 4I

I grew up completely mastering megaman x4 and frame perfect movements. I cannot do it on my flat tv but I can in a CRT. It may be very little lag but muscle memory is fucking perfect. It really is noticeable if you're used to a fast game like that. Been playing it since I was 9. I'm 28 now.

>they make sprites in a grid therefore they were meant to be seen as arrangements of squares!
yeah I'm sure they never imagined what the actual result of displaying those things on a CRT looked like

So what kind of screens were they made for? Lcds that absolutely nobody had in the 80s and 90s? Shut the fuck up trying to be a contrarian. Evidence is overwhelming.

Crts aren't magical devices that bypass the pixel grid

I fell in love.

Call me when any of them make anything better than a tech demo. At least if one of those lazy fucks made an emulator, I could have a fun 30 minutes blasting zombies or something.

Current home solutions are just glorified Wiimotes, with all the issues such a device brings. Newer stuff is based on image detection actually being feasible for processing in real time these days, so you can just draw a white border around the screen and calculate your position fast enough that the player doesn't see any latency. You have to remember, Lightguns already had a full frame of latency built in for the white draw, and often an additional blanking frame.

>I cannot do it on my flat tv but I can in a CRT.

self imposed limitation, also "your" flat TV is probably a vizio with like 40ms input lag. This isn't about "your" tv

YES user THEY FUCKIN LOOKED AT THE 8.5X11 GRAPH PAPER WITH MARKERS FILLING IN THE SQUARES AND THEY IMAGINED THE SUBPIXEL DITHERING WHICH IS, BTW, DIFFERENT ON EVERY SCREEN

: |

You act as if it's underground or something.

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they sure do a good job blurring it though
>YES user THEY FUCKIN LOOKED AT THE 8.5X11 GRAPH PAPER WITH MARKERS FILLING IN THE SQUARES AND THEY IMAGINED THE SUBPIXEL DITHERING WHICH IS, BTW, DIFFERENT ON EVERY SCREEN
not different enough to make them not give a shit about it

I act like I'm curious to know who else played it and to show how it looks like on an LED monitor

Self imposed? Pls. You think all those people bitching about SF5 4 frames delay are making it up? It only doesn't matter to casuals that can't tell the difference. Like you.

OLED with HDR absolutely does

Kinda want to get one
>no space for it
>all the ones in my area only have composite in
>ps1 and ps2
whats the point?

i could really care less about what fighting game autistic retards are bitching about

yeah user im casual bc i dont play the same 20 year old snes game for 20 fucking years, you got me :^)

I wish I could turn back time and go to 1995 and live there forever

i've heard ps1 games can burn out the laser on the ps2 much faster.

just get a freemcboot card and slap a HDD in the PS2

>Tfw PS1 flashcart is expensive as hell and only works on fat models
Some games are a pain in the ass for the poor laser to read properly. Can't keep burning games forever.

Not all ps1 games are compatible with OPL.

>Why don't you own a CRT Yea Forums?
>Uhm....No! That model is trash! You should be playing on this model!
>What do you mean you're not using this output connection?! That's not the intended method!
>You didn't mod your console to have RGB output? I guess you really don't care.
This shit has the worst subset of snobs

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It's too expensive.

Composite masterrace is free... for now.

the equivalent of audiophile fags

>Are you like Harry Potter where you live under a staircase?
Huh?

Emulation is also free

An RGB mod is what, 15 bucks at most for most consoles that don't support it? The only time I'd even consider not using RGB is for the NES, because the mod is retarded.

It's like bragging about having a wall full of carts when my 30 dollar flashcart can replace them all.

it used to cost us like 140 bucks to have our consoles sent off to have it installed.

If you can't use a soldering iron, you deserve to lose all your fucking money.

there weren't instructions user, it was the nineteen nineties. you didn't know how to do it. the company did. that's why they got to charge you money.

>just settle for svideo on my jvc x'eye
Heh

Nice setup

I have this and a B&O

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My CRT died recently and won't turn on anymore.

why people like old consoles so much is because,
they like good games
old console games had to make good games because you could rent them and there were ways to see if they were good to sell them or not.
not this bullshit game shitty site reviewer shit that tells you how great every dump shit beta source copy paste engine alpha is

CRT should have never went away. Had HD tv's never been made and companies stuck with CRT its not like the masses would have known HD TV's were a possibility anyways. They could easily made shit up like 'oh its simply too expensive guys that is why we cant sell them' and people wouldn't know any better. If you fags think you are smart you really aren't. Had those tv never been mass produced nobody would even know. They hide tech from the public as it is anyways.

CRT were great tv's and they lasted long, didn't cause as bad eye strain, and games lagged a lot less. Your modern games would still look great had hd never been a thing because they have a boosted amount of polygons anyways. Now for you porn addicts, you would have suffered there but again, its not like people would know there was any alternative tv's. Plus fuck porn, it is degeneracy.

>Had HD tv's never been made and companies stuck with CRT its not like the masses would have known HD TV's were a possibility anyways.
I think laptops and smartphones would have generated a few hmmmms as to why the technology isn't possible

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seeing shit like this right here, im glad i still have a crt monitor.
no cause
>fuck that shit

Well I'm going off as if those wouldn't have gotten advanced screens either.

>>You didn't mod your console to have RGB output?
Why even bother modding rgb when you can import a scart cable and get a scart to rgb converter? Those pal cables work on NA consoles and have great looking rgb when run through the scart

>tfw im down my parents beach house that they had built and furnished in 2006
>crts in every room
>watching basic cable on a crt

Its fucking comfy

I still have a 20 inch that I take care of for my N64 and older consoles

tl dr

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET A CRT WITH RGB/SCART IN EUROPE OUTSIDE OF EBAY???

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Convenience now. CRT shaders are now comparable enough to not warrant the space loss. If you’re not a retard and can actually set things up correctly

That setup looks kinda comfy user, I am jealous

i have one, its big ass tv and i turn it on like 2 times a year

lack of saving jsut keeps me away from most retro games

Youre actually fucking retarded. Go read about FPGA's which is what I assume most of these utilize. There is no software overhead when using one, this is lagless.

imagine having to solder your fucking games console because some arsehole on Yea Forums thinks you're lesser than him if you haven't

>There is no software overhead when using one
no one said there was, special ed.

I forgot what they're called, but it's the red, yellow, and white cables, and also S video.

What's wrong with that? The games run just fine. I installed Retropie on it.

>with almost nobody to repair them
My dad.

Stop telling zoomers to get CRTs. I want PVMs go stay obscure.

>turn on my old big CRT
>IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>this sound drives me mad
>no one else in the room can hear it but me
The fuck?
I want to buy another big CRT but I need to check if it makes any weird noises first, and you can't do that over the internet.

sotn is actually a weird one, all the new sprites and backgrounds as well as all the 3d elements look right in 4:3, but all the left over stuff from rondo and most of the UI and screen effects from spells look better in 8:7.

It's almost like half the team was doing one thing and the other half was doing another.

why would I want RGB on an old tv when modern ones already have them?

You'll lose your upper range hearing if you listen to it long enough so my suggestion is just tough it out until you destroy that part of your hearing.

CRT royale its very good but you need 1440p+ display.

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that bottom one is pretty impressive

>KKND
Based

You are running in underscan. Turn that off and press down+vol- on the panel to go to the submenu. That JVC you have there is one of the best monitors ever made.

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Looks good to me on 1080p

i was looking something like this, but it showed the face of some old dude, does anyone have it?

BVMeme gang reporting in. I'm extremely lucky to have found someone willing to part with this locally rather than paying ebay scalper prices.

They look great but don't fall for the PVM/BVM elitism. It's easy to get a consumer CRT with component inputs along with an RGB-YPbPr transcoder. It will still look fantastic.

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for comparison here's what you'll get transcoded to component on a consumer CRT (27" trinitron)

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Yeah, a nice late run CRT looks great. 2000's Sonys however seem to get a lot of issues other brands dont, so I recommend a JVC D-Series or a Toshiba TheaterviewSD.

I like pro monitors however, more than anything else.

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A lot of looking good on CRT comes from looking good depending on the input you use
Things can just as easily look terrible because of how perfectionist you have to be with analog signals to not get them distorted

What kind of CRT do I need to play VHS tapes?

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I have no experience with other consumer brands besides Sony, since that's what my dad exclusively bought throughout the CRT era. The flatscreen trinitron wegas (like what I use) do indeed seem to ahve geometry issues that are a pain in the ass to get right, but it is doable.

As far as pr monitors, I just recently picked up that 14" BVM. I've also had a 14" matsushita/panasonic tri-dot shadow mask that looks great, and my main monitor is a rebranded 20" PVM I got from a local hospital years back. Luckily that was all before the meme took off and price gouging started.

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>games lagged a lot less
not really true at this point my friend
LCDs can hit higher refresh rates, and OLED has no lag either
Also you are a fucking retard for thinking that displays could somehow not go HD. TN panels have existed forever as well, you would have to convince companies to not make money somehow if you didn't want them to improve

The fact that you have to ask makes me think you were born after LCDs became mainstream.

Any downsides for using OLED, aside from the usual mura effect?

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