Fire Emblem:Three Houses

Is it ever really explained what the fuck happens to Edelgard's birth mother?

She caused the Duscur tragedy to get her daughter back, beyond that, nobody knows.

What's the worst map in the game and why is it the beach

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The beach is Flayn’s domain stupid Edelgard. You’re disturbing the fish

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What would you do if you saw this?

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>not the volcano map
Well both of these are negated by flyer squad anyway

Because its just another highlight of how dumb fliers and casters are in this game

Congratulate Thales for getting some prime cunny.

>Manuela and Hannerman paralogue
>the way they bickered with each others
>”Manuela, dont get yourself killed without someone to avenge you” instead of the usual “oi dont die”
My fucking side

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>Edelgard's mom kills off the entire Faerghus royal family except for Dimitri to get her daughter back, supposedly
>whoops now your daughter is in the rape basement
Something doesn't add up

Finished my first run. Blue Lions. Figured I'd do GD next to put distance between it and Church with BE in between. Played as a dude and married Lysithea. Should I go female for GD? Marriage suggestions? Other pairing suggestions for nice endings in the credits?

Who uses the sword Viskam in the game?

Incomplete what?
That they didn't kill the slithers?

When exactly did you want them to get rid of them?
Before battling Rhea even though it makes no sense to battle 3 enemies at once, nor makes sense about Hubert's paralogue which reveals they're giving them powerful weapons to win the war?

Or after killing the big dragon final boss, finally winning the war and unifying Fodlan when the battle is over and everything ends. To say "hey, actually the game's not over yet, you gotta kill these jobbers too" and killing all the impact of the final battle against Rhea?

no. the worst maps are the fog maps.

Yuri

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>not liking fog maps
Bitch they're one of the few maps that actually punish you for charging like a retard.

>sit there
>enemy get free hits on you
>fliers pass by and shit on Rhea
>meanwhile reinforcements

yeah. so fun.

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I love my wife Bernadetta!

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>Or after killing the big dragon final boss, finally winning the war and unifying Fodlan when the battle is over and everything ends. To say "hey, actually the game's not over yet, you gotta kill these jobbers too" and killing all the impact of the final battle against Rhea?
They did exactly that on Church route. And you can have an epic battle after the one with Rhea, nothing indicates it should be the final one.
It was supposed to be "Rhea first, then the Slithers" but now it's just cut short.

Hot.

Quiet cuck, stop shitposting with my wife.

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Not really. Edelgard's mom likely isn't aware Arundel has been SLITHERED.

GD antagonist isn't Rhea, nor she is the biggest factor in that route like BE was.
The whole foundation of BE was defeating Rhea in the end.

At least they're not retarded

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Fog maps in this game are actually fine, you got infinite cheap torches to buy, and Divine Pulse exists.

BE route should have had a Gronder battle where Claude and Dimitri weren't total retards and actually teamed up.

Its still dumb as hell in the GD and BL routes.
Have Claude go single out Dimitri, he asks why the fuck they are even fighting, and Dimitri just grumbles and tells him to get out of his way.

>The whole foundation of BE was defeating Rhea in the end.
Which falls apart completely when you consider that the literal entire reason Rhea needed to be dealt with in the first place was because of the slithers, which isn't addressed at all.

I don't get why they didn't just stick the last 2 GD chapters into Crimson Flower.

blindfold her and whisper in her ear that the church did this and that crests are to blame for hours on end.

Why was Byleth allowed to be the only professor on the field smacking around a bunch of kids?

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the Slithers are literally defeated in the credits

Which is stupid, it should be playable.

>doesn't have a political philosophy underlying his political actions taken on behalf of a political body
>not retarded

COPE dimitrifags are so fucking pathetic it's just sad at this point

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And he brings his fucking legendary sword too.

He should have been forced to bench for the mission, just like how you can't use Byleth in the tournaments (even after time skip for no apparent reason while other staff can enter)

Yes, thank you for proving that the route feels unfinished because the main antagonist of it is defeated in an epilogue footnote.

AY I'M MAD

OHMYGODACHAIR

Why doesn't BE have a Gronder field fight?
I can't remember the basic plot details for why that never happened in that route.

Because the war never pushes back into Empire territory in BE, they're on the offensive.

Jesus, that whole family are a bunch of fucking monsters, aren't they?

Also because in BE Edelgard decides to take out the Alliance first

Because his fat butt weighed

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Unlike everyone else, he just does what is right instead of making poor excuses to incite a nearly 6 year war on a peaceful continent.

Where was the third chapter set again, after Claude fucks off?
It was my first playthrough and now I'm finishing my third and forgetting things.

>Just does what's right
>Revenge obssessed retard in 3 out of 4 routes that dies for nothing and forsakes his people

At least Edelgard is idealogically consistent across all 4 routes, with the only variable being how ruthless and cold hearted she gets without Byleth's presence

>using the shitty Emperor class
user...

Because people hate arcadia and battle before dawn

Is it really that bad? I like keeping the lords as their main or official class but I did train Edelgard in flying in case.

>Revenge obssessed retard in 3 out of 4 routes that dies for nothing and forsakes his people
Of course, because being falsely accused of murder and having to flee have nothing to do with it.

It's sub-optimal, it'd be better if Edelgard could actually use her Magic, but even then Flying is just so good in this game.

They began pushing Kingdom territory IIRC

Of people aren’t going to take Edelgard’s circumstances into account when shitting on her not exactly sure why that same grace should be offered to Dimitri

I fucking hate that you have to replay part 1 every time. Just let me start each house from the timeskip.

I've done BE and GD but I'm close to dropping BL on like chapter 5. I cannot be arsed doing all this shit again.

It's because of Edelgard that all that shit happened. Edelgard believes she is the only one who wants and can fix everything. He also believes that he does the right thing.

Edelgard is retard?
I just had to talk to Dimitri at the academy and all the shit would be solved.

How would you balance it out what with you skipping half the chapters.

Have it give you an average, useable team if you're just wanting to run through the route for the story. Not like this game is particularly difficult, you don't need a perfect minmaxed team to beat it.

Leave the option of playing the whole thing if having your ideal team is important to you.

cope edelfag

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>even archers are slowed down
I like the map, but honestly it should have some special properties so you can have 3 move minimum

No one likes your waifu edeltard

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>Ctrl+F 'Edel'

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The problem is that she's too distrustful and had her brain fucked so she doesn't remember him while he's spilling his spaghetti too much to try and approach her. A real tragedy of circumstances you know.

So this is the end game of 3H threads right. Just a constant cycle of "Edeltard" and "FUCK NI-I MEAN DUSCARS"

>all she had to do is talk to a murderous phsycopath

No she had to talk with Dimitri, not with herself

There's nothing wrong with the latter

Don't drop the best route.

>If the other two professors aren't going to be here, I'm sitting it out too.
>"No no, don't worry about it, go ham."
>I appreciate your enthusiasm Manuela, but this is a super unfair advantage for me.
>"If you're thinking like that you'll just get stomped."

>*Wins without a single casualty.

GG I guess, you fucking idiot.

Yes I’m sure her revealing to Dimitri that she’s the flame emperor, regardless of circumstance, would have gone just swimmingly.

Considering her memory issues there is zero way she trusts Dimitri enough to let her identity slip like that

So most players S the house lord?

Yes

>It's because of Edelgard that all that shit happened
That's not TWSITD user.
It is incredible how many people in these threads have claimed to beaten the game and someone managed to get the impression slitherers are directly under her command when it's basically the contrary up until she ascends the throne in secret

>dude just talk it out lmao.

You guys would be fucking awful scenario leads, jesus fucking christ

I went with Flayn for Blue, Lysithea for Yellow, Burnie for Red and Sothis for Church.

wub wub zappy monoliths(?)

Do you really think that the only way to solve things was to do the shit that Edelgard did?

Unironically yes. What’s her other option, defy Arundel/Thales openly when she is essentially a puppet princess and died a meaningless death, which is the antithesis of her entire character in that she doesn’t want the suffering she and her dead siblings underwent alongside every else who’s been a victim of the crest hierarchy to be for nothing?
It’s the same thing with Rhea. Founding the church on a fundamental lie regarding the true origins of the crests in order To keep the region stable so she can do her Sothis resurrection expirements in peace. She literally cannot let go of her grief and is undoubtably selfish in her motivations but at the same time it’s a good showing of her more heroic traits that she didn’t just slaughter the descendants of the elites outright and washed her hands of humanity, lord knows in your typical shitty FE plot that would’ve been the case
Her and Rhea are supposed to be the two premier tragic figures in this game, yet Yea Forums can’t stop calling one or the other literally Hitler to actually pay attention to the narrative and see that.

Not him, but when you're judging Edelgard's actions, you need to remember that the player is the ONLY person who is made aware that Rhea intends to step down. Based on appearances, it seems to any onlooker that the immortal dragon who's been running the church for the last thousand years is going to keep doing so. If your goal is to oppose the church, that means opposing Rhea, and Rhea tends to respond to opposition with fire and fury. Diplomacy was never an option. You can argue that she should have talked to Dimitri and Claude, but you need to put yourself in her shoes: If she misjudged either of them and they went to Rhea with the truth, her plan would have ended before it even began. The whole point of this game is that no one person has the whole picture. Edelgard has most of it, but the few pieces that she's missing are some of the most important.

The part where this breaks down is the implication that Rhea is in charge of Original Sin and can pass judgement on and subjugate humans just for being descendants of someone.
that shit is retarded.

Technically Rhea has most of the picture

I guess that explains the 1-9 range on it

She knows about the past, yes, but where she's lacking is knowledge of the present. She's mostly unaware of the current goings-on in Fodlan, specifically the fact that a good number of nobles have been killed and replaced by a cabal of evil mole people.

And it's her fault she doesn't learn about that by purging the Western church.

When you resort to violence and start the aggression you're the bad person. I don't understand why edelgard apologists don't realize this.

Correct. Both Rhea and Edelgard are flawed. Edelgard takes a heavily-distorted oral retelling of the account of someone who had every reason to lie in the first place as the gospel truth of what happened in the past, and Rhea's barely contained seething hatred for humanity prevents her from realizing what's going on in the present. They're foils to one another. That's why part of the Black Eagles route is choosing between the two of them.

What was Those Who Slither in the Dark endgame?

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DUDE JUST BE MORE CONFIDENT LMAO

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too bad church BE is so short and Church route is rushed, could have been better

At least Rhea tries to live with humans, Edelgard genocides people of the church in every other route.

>Rhea tends to respond to opposition with fire and fury.
The only opposition you see in the game are people that notoriously try to rob her mothers grave.

The state calls its own violence "law" but that of the individual "crime."

Fuck over Rhea mostly

That support is a fucking 10/10 and you're grossly misrepresenting it.

revenge against the woman who enacted her revenge against them who enacted their revenge against the goddess who put them in their place

Also Lonato's uprising of mostly villagers with no combat experience, which Rhea responds to by sending her entire trained private military to kill every last one of them.

Even when that “bad”, in all 4 routes, leads to an objectively better future for Fodlan than keeping the status quo, and was an inevitability considering the political situations manufactured by TWSITD?

Again, FE fans too used to comically black and white narratives cannot comprehend the slightest bit of complexitynin their character. At the absolute worst I think Edelgard is an Anti Villains and Rhea is a tragic/fallen hero. The only truly evil group in the story are the Agarthans who LITERALLY fuck everything up, and the entire game boils down to cleaning up their mess

>turns the planet into a nuclear wasteland
>hides in the bunker to not die
>screeches about rightful clay after Sothis restores the world
>your masterplan gets undone by accident by a angry kid who doesn't even know you exist
can you get more pathetic

Why didn't she just tell everyone that?

>genocides

There’s that word again, literally making shit up.

There’s a big fucking difference between religious persecution and state targeted eradication of an ethnic group

Lonato literally worked along the guys that tried to rob her mothers grave in the next month.

>church route has unique cutscenes, no unique maps
>CF has unique maps but no unique cutscenes, and it's four chapters shorter than the rest

I WAS ONLY EXPECTING THREE ROUTES ANYWAY IS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SPLIT ONE IN HALF WHEN YOU CLEARLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT.

Beach map IS the worst map, that Miiverse water dude is rolling over his fucking grave at the water in this.

>the next month
Please judge the actions of characters based on what's already happened, not what's going to happen later.

She somewhat did it was the grave of the biggest saint of the church robbing it would still be in bad taste and punished by death by any religion or organization.

They had to do it. When Edelgard is revealed to be the antagonist, there's going to be people who want to abandon ship. The church route is there so you don't have to start the whole game over.

When you get to late game and have half your army as fliers, it all feels so blissful to play.

Makes early game hell to go back to, I don't know why they made the default base movement just 4 spaces, because its awful.

Does being a hyper technological civilization, but still fearing a single Unga enough that you'd rather nuke yourselves than wake him up?

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You guys keep saying this game could get DLC. I haven't played the other FE games, if this game got DLC are we talkin like expansions or what?

Lenato was a deranged schismatic that threatened the stability of the church. There that's reason enough. I mean I could understand him IF he didn't want to trample Ashe the moment he saw him.

Well, he is top Unga.

>hyper technological civilization
They weren't those were Sothis's children the Slithers were just humans that lived alongside them and leeched their achievements.

They feared not him but the powers they unknowingly gave him to wield.

If they're lazy, the DLC will just be additional paralogues that are detached from the main story and every route has access to.

If we were lucky (and we won't be) they'll add to the existing routes to clean up lose ends - especially Crimson Flower. But that is never happening.

And that’s super shitty, yeah

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>And that’s super shitty,
So just like Edeltard, lol

What the fuck were they expecting when they let him imbibe the powers of god?

Absolutely BTFO.

I think the Slither are hardcore fedora tippers and don't actually believe Sothis is a real god.

Why are you replying to yourself

more gratitude then what he showed them I guess

The point I'm trying to make is that Rhea is never shown to attempt to de-escalate situations with anything other than force, so Edelgard has no reason to try to use diplomacy to accomplish her goals (which include the complete removal of the church). That's all.

Maybe she shouldn’t be such a chuuni and stop dressing as the Flame Emperor.

Everything you do while playing BE. You accomplish their goal.

What took her longer to come up with: Flame Emperor, Death Knight, or Black Eagle Strike Force?

Nah.

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Grug was never shown to be openly hostile to them though, and all we've seen of him, is that he massacred the green-haired ones and conquered Fodlan through sheer big dick energy alone.

probably death knight if I had to guess

>Mobile
This means absolutely nothing.

I honestly think Jeritza came up with death knight on his own

I’m on the shitter come on user don’t be so insecure.

Everything was a veil for creating the hottest slut waifus. Slitherfags were basically just trying to make their 2D hentai dreams come true.

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Fuck, seeing Hegemon Edelgard makes me never want to do the Azure Moon route. Even when you fight against Dimitri and Claude, they look relatively human during their defeat. Dimitri looks haggard and awful, but still human.

Rhea (when an antagonist) has got that evil on the inside, goddess on the outside look going for her especially towards the end of Edel's route when she (literally) sets the kingdom on fire

Fog maps are always cancer.

Because Edelgard is a science experiment let lose no of the other lords steals bodies of gods to buff themselves like a retard.

Sure, but under Dimitri there's plenty of people that turn themselves into demonic beasts out of desperation (see Dedue during Edel's route). There's that kind of corrupted fuckery happening in most "sides" of the conflict. Except Claude I guess, who just hires fucking Russians to try and get an upper hand

I don't think I'll ever do Dimitri's route. Going to do Claude's next and potentially re-do Edelgard's route when new DLC characters are out.

How many fog maps are there even anyway?

>Sure, but under Dimitri there's plenty of people that turn themselves into demonic beasts out of desperation
too be fair, thay did without his consent

3 that I remember
>Lonato
>Ashe and Shamir protect Rhea
>Marianne paralogue where she's surrounded by monsters and an archer that will end her life after a few turns
Might be a few more from the paralogues in other routes.

Eh, not that guy but it was just alright IMO. They are currently paired for my current run but it was just alright.

I actually ended up like Sylvain and Dorothea's supports more.

oops I meant Catherine not Shamir

I'm not a waifufag so I liked it for the characterization and world building.

then perhaps thy're just dicks then

Why did the church route have to exist? They could have done so much more if this fucking lazy copy and paste route didnt exist.

>When you resort to violence and start the aggression you're the bad person. I don't understand why edelgard apologists don't realize this.

this is a joke post, right? BLfags can't be this stupid. then again, they do idolize a libcuck like the second coming of christ

Play as a guy, marry Marianne.

probably because it's easy to copypaste

It won't let me

I still want to know if these sound as ridiculous to the Japanese as they do to us
maybe it's just cultural

It's cultural, you forget that in Asian languages their names are made up of real words instead of random shit you gotta look back thousands of years just to figure out its meaning. In other words, in Asia, their VERY NAMES are chuuni by western standards, why the fuck would they have an issue with it?

well the death knight's japanese name is grim reaper knight, so some ridiculousness is probably intended

FE is literally Entei in the moonspeak

Since one of the dialogue options in response to "Black Eagle Strike Force" is telling her it's terrible, I think that one sounds just as bad in Japanese. I don't know about the other two.

Well you can't S rank Claude and Dimitri if you're male.

isn't that a mythological thing? It's not like she actually named herself after the Pokemon.

I've gone for Flayn, then Sothis and Mercedes; the lords don't interest me much as romance options.

I dunno, with how chuuni she is, she might have.

Fuck Derdriu, we're going back to monastery. I'm not fighting that thing

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I don't know what you're possibly afraid of user

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Just don't be on a horse bro

Just use a gambit if for some unfathomable fucking reason you don't have someone capable of oneshotting her.

theres this one part where the western or eastern church guys are interrogated after byleth gets the sword of the creator and one guy claims they were lied to - what was that about?

so this is how three houses dies

Well it is just mashing the kanji for Flame and Emperor together so I wouldn't think too deeply on it. You can probably find a bunch of possible references in mythology and Chinese/Japanese history

I think in Japanese she actually just uses the German words for Black Eagle Guard/Resistance/Defense strung together so it's not as completely stupid sounding as the English version where there's only one language at play

What do you mean?

Which route is the hardest

when I posted that the thread was on page ten

Arguable BE because it's shortest so you're given little time to devlop skills and other stuffs. And probably Church with this last map.

Black Eagles due to duration and nature of most of their units. Doing Black Eagles on Hard/Classic and going pure isolationist, not recruiting anyone, is as hard as you can get until Lunatic.
While Edelgard is probably the most busted of the lords, the other units aren't the best of their preferred roles mainly due to stat growths. The characters that actually do excel are late bloomers, like Dorothea.

Meant for

What do they need, a dedicated tank?

No, Edel does that just fine while also dishing damage. What they need is more high damage dealers so the particularly dangerous enemies that need to be one turned don't fucking murder someone. BE is the only route where I found myself needing to dedicate 3-4 units to one target fairly often. I found Felix to be an excellent choice to shore up that weakness.

this is true tho
>just a space dragon with immense power
although at that point it is reasonable to equate that to godlike power

Marianne has the best Byleth support.

Hilda and Caspar are cute too.

Dude, if something can reverse time, it might as well be god.

I agree with this. Most of the units are merely okay in it while almost everyone in other houses have their power level right away.
Also Edelgard can possibly even surpass Byleth in like 3 chapters with the right rng

Then you have characters like Bernie who are easily RNG fucked.

I'm being stalemated by my own strategy

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That's every house archer. Growth wise they're all practically the same character aside from luck being the major difference but who cares about that, and base stats don't differ too much.
Raphael is a better punch bro than Caspar though since he'll have better bulk, bases, and Casper's even attack and speed growth makes him ironically want to be the opposite class of axe or fist that he is at the moment.

>This happened to me in the pirate paralogue
It was scary not knowing which ai was actually going to kill my squishies while also needing divine pulse for the stupid fliers

Just walk Edel forward, she should be able to take what Lys can dish out.

this happened to me as well
>literally something like thirty turns of Edelgard and Hilda staring each other down while me, Hubert, Lysithea, and Lindhardt went around slowly killing everyone else
I think there's actually something wrong with the map's pathing, especially because if the two gorillas made their axes make love I'd lose terribly.

Thats not Gronder, is it? Why does the map look so different?

It's post-timeskip Gronder, you can rotate the view of map around.

im just saying they know her existence, have tried to harness her power
gods are usually unknowable
but they have a firm understanding of what she is
maybe not exactly, but hey firm

i really wish i couldplay this but im not going to buy a switch

You could always steal one

I guess

I just finished GD. What should my next route be?

Not the church since it's mostly a retread.

Church is a shitty rehash of GD route with no lords, even though that one cutscene with Edelgard make more sense in Church. So do either BL or BE next.

Lindhart + Leonie have a fog map paralogue with a dragon bro

BE it is then

Saving the best for last I see.

anyone besides Caspar I need to recruit for Blue Lions for paralogues?

>I'm just saying, user, there is no conclusive evidence stating that duskies are even the same species as us. I'm not going to pretend to know for sure, but wouldn't it just make so much more sense if they were just an entirely different species that happened to undergo convergent evolution alongside those of us who were actually blessed by the goddess? Just something to think about.

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>BEagles Felix

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Is it worth it to battle more in a month or explore more in a month? I already feel pretty overpowered, but I have quite a few paralogs to do.

i found i more just used excessive extra battles to explore more bonds and get some more cash
cleaning out gifts every month and constant master seal fails on 50% rolls made me poor as fuck

>he doesn't like Itachi

Catherine has a paralogue with Ashe and Dorothea has a paralogue with Ingrid.

Dorothea doesn't require recruiting. I know this because I haven't recruited her but the paralogue is available

d..do you think the judge would understand if i told them i had to see mai waifu?

>Dorothea proposes marriage to Hubert in their A rank and he's actually considering it
Didn't see that coming

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>POLITICS GOOD
>IMPERIAL RULE GOOD
>FREEDOM OF CHOICE BAD

>Play BE expecting total death and destruction
>Can actually spare people as important as Claude

I mean if you want you can still kill him.

it's a weird villain route in that the amount of murder is surprisingly low,

I know, I just was shocked that I even had the choice. Honestly the whole thing paints the whole ordeal as significantly less severe, I guess Teach really does keep El in check.

By the end game half your team should be flyers anyways

>all these characters not flying
oh no no no no

What would be born from 2 parents that have the Crest of Flames

>villain route

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Hey bros, I'm a Fire Emblem zoomer who's only played Awakening (really liked it, hated the dumb future kid shit though) and Edelgard's route in Three Houses (also loved it). I'm really interested in playing other FE games, in particular the GBA entries and Shadow Dragon.
Would it be alright to try one of those now, after beating Crimson Flower, or would it be smarter to do another TH route? What FE games would you recommend?

The Crest of Flamin' hot Cheetos

Is it worth going Mortal Savant over Enlightened One?

Try Sacred Stone. It's a classic, you can't go wrong with it.

No.

How do you spare him? I had to kill him to end the battle

Is it related to the two GBA games before it, which I've heard have a lot of the same characters, or is it its' own story?

its own story

it is its own thing

You get the option after you beat him, possible you might have to beat him with Byleth to get it

Ohh, I had Bernie quad shot him with a brave bow.

Alright. Is Shadow Dragon any good? I'm interested in playing through Marth's game since apparently he's, like, THE Fire Emblem character or something, but I've heard mixed things about it on here.

On the other hand if you only have Dorothea you won't get Luin for completing it.

Game was so obviously designed for the autistic female hikkikomoris. Everything about this game screams pandering for fujoshits, yuri, and otome. Does Male Byleth even get a master class that's an upgrade over his Enlightened One? Nope, female only. BL was obviously meant for female Byleth's exclusively and Retarded Systems is deluded if they think I'm doing Black Eagle again.

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It's just awfully mediocre compared to the other games before it, but it's still good Fire Emblem fun. Javelins are OP.

Not really, no.
The DS remake doesn't fix it either and just makes it look even uglier somehow.

i wouldn't know
I just remember loving the sprite work on sacred stones
youtu.be/WIkbQhOz5H8?t=366

>Does Male Byleth even get a master class that's an upgrade over his Enlightened One? Nope, female only.
WHAT

>female only
The fuck, are you serious?
Why is this allowed?

>Gremory is an upgrade to enlightened one
Are you kidding me? Besides, Byleths spell list sucks

How do you feel about Hubert?

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based but he's responsible for not wrangling Edelgard properly

cute. could be more interesting if he wasn't conjoined at the hip with emperor retard and enabling her

>bought the game on release
>wind up on the church route because i didn't know you had to talk to edelgard on the same month before part 2 starts
>got mildly upsetti but figured i'd just do it on another playthrough
>the church route is boring as shit and literally nothing happens until like the last 3 chapters
>beat the game and start another run with dimitri
>virtually the exact fucking same aside from finding out those 2 dudes you killed were related to ashe and sylvain
>finally get to part 2
>no motivation to keep going
does the BL route actually get more interesting because the whole dimitri being an edgelord thing loses its novelty after a single chapter

do not reply to my post if you are either a faggot or a fujo

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Is Edelgard even a villain in the BE route? She kills the least amount of people than either lord when you do her route and she doesn't do the gross shit she does in BL route.

Kill yourself

She still started a war on dubsteppers propaganda and became Nemesis 2.0.

Edeltards fuck off

She's still a villain, she just didn't kill everyone. She'd still be less of a villain if he wrangled properly

Edelgard lied to them and used them as fodder.

I'd forgive Edelgard for being a kawaii Hitler, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I Take up arms with a bisexual degenerate

I chose Golden Deer, was that a mistake?

>gremory is an upgrade over enlightened one
lol shut up you retarded faggot

He doesn't seem to want to wrangle Edelgard's autism, in fact he seems content with enabling and fostering it.

if you're in it for the waifus, yes since you chose the house with the best girls

Lysithea is cute

Should have gone Blue Lions

>using Myleth for magic
How about you fuck off and die?

nice water

He's Oberstein if Oberstein was more charming and less competent

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>villain route

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>virtually the exact fucking same aside from finding out those 2 dudes you killed were related to ashe and sylvain
Well it's easy to tell if you speak with all the kids in the monastery, a bit more noticeable for Sylvain because Ingrid also repeats that it's his family.

Best girl house

how the fuck is user you are replying to even remotely insinuating that

The idea is that with Byleth tempering Edelgard's general evil you can avoid killing everyone. It's still the best house TO kill everyone.

> dubsteppers propaganda

You mean the Emperor exclusive knowledge she has? That's not dubstepper shit that's a comically rosy reteilling thats been telephone'd to death of what happened a millenia ago.

Of course as players we learn the truth in GD but from her perspective, what plausible reason would she have the doubt the information she was given? Hell, a good chunk of that misinformation can probably be attributed to Rhea herself. The only way she could ever possibly learn that information is from the sole person who knows it in Rhea, and it's asinine to think she'd be willing to relinquish information that would throw the entire social order of Fodlan into chaos

They'll be next, Ingrid looks super cute

>PEACE BAD
Edeltards are pathetic.

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So I think the biggest issue with Edelgard is that IS seemed to scared to actually show her psychological damage like they did with Dimitri. There are hints here and there such as her recurring nightmares and amnesia but it's much more subdued and in the background whereas with Dimitri's mental turmoil it's front and center.
Now this is important as this is the drive for Edelgard and be the explanation of why her decisions are not rational and why she's so stubborn but without actually showing her mental troubles, it just comes across as her being stupid. Sure one could infer from the information gathered that El is just as much of a mental wreck, if not moreso than Dimitri, but that's an issue of telling instead of showing which is never ideal.
Also people are not charitable enough with her and expect her to readily change her position when in the case of Claude, he's never given the impression that he's one to be trusted (in fact he keeps going on about how he's scheming some plot), and Dimitri never starts a dialogue with her until the end phases of the war when El would be in too deep and firmly have a sunk cost position and thus not budge. Edelgard also had no real way of know that the information that she got from her family was incorrect and since there is some truth to the Emperor's records, that only act to further cement even her false beliefs.

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petra ended up being more of a monster than edel for me. I wasn't expecting rape machine out of her.

Annette deserves the world

I purposely don't use Byleth on that map out of princple.

For me, Bernie and Hubert fucking kicked ass in every single battle. Bernadetta one-shotted everything and basically cucked Shamir out of being a worthwhile sniper, and Hubert barely ever got attacked because when he was, he'd Mire the everlasting fuck out of the enemy.

My Bernie fucking sucks, were you just lucky with your level ups or did you do anything specific to make her good?

Another problem is Edelgard never bothers to confirm the truth behind the slithers and Rhea, even in the routes where he has Rhea held hostage in Enbarr. For someone that prides herself on knowing the truth, it's laughable when you realize she knows fuck all about the truth and just declared a 5 year war based on a hunch.

Should I just leave Marianne as a healer? Damn I hate healers, do more damage

>Replies with Edeltard to 10 hour posts
That time of night isn't it

>BE route is the shortest of the 4.
What did IS mean by this?

silent protagonist were a mistake

Yeah, that's honestly a real head scratcher, it makes no real sense that if she has Rhea imprisoned, she wouldn't interrogate her for information. Hell, you could at least write it off that Edelgard didn't like what Rhea was saying and thus concluded that she's lying but we don't even get that.

Not him but it sounds like you got rng screwed, that and maybe not use her ability well. Bernie has an amazing personal ability, +5 damage simply for not having full hp is fantastic. While her strength is mediocre at best her speed and dexterity are great and allow her to double a lot of enemies. Add to this her great crest that allows her to double even when she normally can't and you have a fantastic bow unit.

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It would be the first time a woman has shown interest in him

you literally can't do a game like this if you properly define the protagonists' opinions and lifestyle

I would had benched him, but it turned out most of the Blue Lions would beat most of my units so I had to use him, and even then he wasn't good enough to beat Dedue

Her crest never fucking activates for me and sure I can get her to double but it doesn't matter if even with Paranoia she's hitting like a wet noodle.

>double even when she normally can't
I remember that sometimes she can even triple

At least let them talk during cut scenes

technically I think you can get her to attack five times with a brave bow + speed.+ Crest

I literally only taught her bow shit. Never instructed anything that wasn't Bow and she got Sniper fairly early. It helped that I liked her a lot and focused a lot on her motivation and supports. Every time I thought I was fucked in a battle Bernadetta was always close enough to save another unit. I didn't do anything specific, at least not that I know of since I'm a retard and only ever played Awakening before this.

This is because Crimson Flower as a whole isn't structured to be an emotional roller coaster like Azure Moon/BL is. It is about guiding a character who's mostly developed through a hellish backstory and seeing their ideals through the end rather than playing therapist and learning how to cope with legitimate mental illness to do your duty as king like Dimitri is. Yes they try to humanize her through her supports and some occassional mushy dialogue but it pales to what other routes do, and honestly I don't think that's a problem

>Another problem is Edelgard never bothers to confirm the truth behind the slithers and Rhea,

Literally the only person on the continent who would be privvy to information that could prove her wrong otherwise is Rhea, and I get the feeling she's not gonna be willing to divulge that information after being taken captive.

Even if she's working with flawed information, the ultimate end game isn't necessarily wrong. Claude agrees with that

>mfw the final map of the Church route
How the fuck will I do this in Lunatic? The map is fucking insane.

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Absolutely not. Marianne is for big damage ice magic crits, blutgang and Soulblade.

With brave bow she can quadruple end game enemies, it's great. I think Leonie may be a bit better overall as a bow unit but Bernie is definitely a competent unit, unless you get that fucked by rng to the point where her strength is just that bad.

Both Bernie and Ashe have 55 dex growth being only lower than Claude whose a lord, and Lys who'll have even worse strength. Abuse this and make them an assassin and have them proc lethality all the time. They'll also pretty much always double even with a brave bow.

>the ultimate end game isn't necessarily wrong
everyone else has the exact same fucking end game, its an entirely pointless endeavour when you think for a moment and realize Edelgard is the one thing holding back a golden ending

that's a pretty good shoop actually

So for the pirates who already got lunatic and maddening, how hard is it? The enemy seems to just straight up come after you and all of them are tanky as fuck from all of the people posting videos of it on youtube.

Cursed image

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What was this expression meant to convey?

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does he live in Beagles? I went out of my way to kill him when I did it.

The pleasure of cooking people

>everyone else has the exact same fucking end game,
This isn't even remotely close to true. Dimitri dies like a fucking dog with no purpose in half the routes in this game and isn't all that much better in CF. Claude at least has an idea of what he wants to happen but is passive as all fuck and nopes the fuck out of Fodlan in every route but his own without Blyeth (And conveniently, Edelgard starting a war he was too worried to start on his own!) to guide him. Edelgard is the only lord who consistenly projects agency in every route, even if a lot of it is due to Slitherer influences in the Empire and she becomes what she hates most in non-CF routes.
Thinking there's even a way things don't end in war one way or another when TWSITD has shadow control over the Empire and primed to overthrow another is asinine

that he is on the right side of history

Absolute madman. I love how I slaughter this guy and nobody ever mentions him again after I side with Edel.

Would Byleth Byleth's Byleths with Byleth's Byleth?

The fact that they have no story dialogue ends up making them feel incredibly detached from the game's events and Edelgard/Dimitri/Rhea's sanity hinging on the guidance of what may as well be a brick wall is retarded. It unironically makes me seethe that this dumbass is topping the popularity charts. Why do people even vote for the self-insert anyways?

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>My own clone! Now neither of us will be virgins!

yes

Nope. It's actually fucking hilarious as you can kill him and then join Edelgard right after, making his death pointless.

>Why do people even vote for the self-insert anyways?
Narcissism.

By far the weirdest example of it I know of is in Persona, where Persona 3's protagonist pretty consistently tops popularity charts even though no one else from P3 besides the occasional Aigis is hitting that level of popularity. Why is one self insert getting that many more votes than the other ones?

It really does seem like the route branching should've happened BEFORE Ch.11 and not AFTER. Of course IS likely did this to cheap out on having to create 2 different map setups

>judging people's goals outside their respective routes
outside her route Edelgard does nothing but bring death, famine and plague to Fodlan, even after capturing Rhea, isolating Claude and driving Dimitri to insane murderhobodom. Outside her own route, Edelgard would be the most dangerous out of the lot of them because like a self-righteous zealot, all her atrocities were committed with none of the benefits she brings about in BE.

I love FE self-insert avatars!

no, because then it would be harder to believe your students would go through with it
>Rhea attacks you when you're just trying to not have your student killed
versus
>Rhea attacks you after a planned betrayal

Probably because of his personality portrayed in spinoffs/animations and the fact he's the literal Jesus figure of the series

Who cares?

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Wait a minute, is this female Martin Luther?

If you're not enjoying the game now then I doubt that you'll magically start to enjoy it in the coming chapters. BL has some good moments but honestly I doubt they'll resonate with you very much if you found Church that boring, and Beagle is a hilarious mess of a route that only appeals to the most hardcore of Edelgard apologist.
>What about GD
it's just a slightly better church route senpai

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/r/fireemblem is such a weird subreddit. It's like a combination of boomers from Yea Forums and SJWs, who are really upset that FE became anime(never mind the series was always anime)

I'm playing NG+. Is there NG++ and so on? I'm going to eventually max out every skill on Byleth so I can play them however I want

I still don't understand why they gave Edel a unique Fire Emperor outfit along with a few unique abilities then after that one mission they're both just gone

What's his backstory?

she grew out of it

Byleth doesn't feel like as much of self insert as Robin or Corrin, which is funny as he is silent. The thing is Robin and Corrin, especially fucking Corrin, act so retarded that it is impossible to relate to them even if you don't self insert. Byleth works better for the sole reason that he never goes full retard or is ever a pussy about killing. I remember in BL campaign when you capture Rudolph you get his spiel about his family and bullshit and Byleth still gives him a quick death. He doesn't pussy out of killing him, nor does it feel edgy, just a necessary and quick death.

Same.

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GD is the comfy lore dump route, and the best route if you want to unambiguously be a good guy.

Hi, Lyn.

He liked to cook.

Seems like it's a good first playthrough choice then

>Ill kill them all *evil lol*
>wtf im not the bad guy stop treating me lol

Okay, but what is this expression meant to convey?

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Well Byleth killed Randolph as a mercy-killing because Dimitri was going full edgelord.

shota located

>outside her route Edelgard does nothing but bring death, famine and plague to Fodlan

It's explicitly stated in BL, the route she's at her worst even, that she weighs the calculus of the suffering and loss of life in the immediate war now versus the continued suffering and stagnation of Fodlan under the status Quo and chooses the former. War is awful and should be avoided at all costs and it's a notable character flaw of Edelgard she has a massive issue with sunk cost fallacy, but ultimately seeing how every route ends, it's not THAT crazy of a line of logic to follow. OFC, without Byleth restraining her worse impulses things become messier than intended and she does dip pretty close to if not outright villainy.

The issue with Edelgard is that she's completely static from start to finish. She's set up as a deeply flawed and tragic figure, which kind of sets up this expectation that there will be a fall from grace of some sort (or really any plot twist) but literally nothing comes of that (gotta focus on making Edelgard seem cute so the player will want to protec and fug her I guess.)
>It is about guiding a character who's mostly developed through a hellish backstory and seeing their ideals through the end
Cool but absolutely nothing interesting is done with that concept at all.

>going through Dedue's supports after a fight
>Mercedes: Dedue, let's not let the death of a family line or an entire people let their traditions and the way they live disappear
>cut to
>Ingrid: FUCCCKKKKK BLAAAAACKKK PEEEOOOPLEEE

they should've made her crazier in Crimson Flower, I keep saying it
something like her eating an animal raw or forgetting her name

No....
No.......

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When you're trying to scare someone off but shit yourself by mistake.

>played only BE edelgard path so far
>all the shit I didn't see yet in this thread
I picked the wrong house!

S L I T H E R E D

>this much apologism for a delusional ideologue
I've never seen people defend Arvis this hard. It's literally only because she's a cute waifu, if she weren't everyone would be screaming for her head

NG+ benefits are cumulative, yes.

Some people would tell you that BL is the better starting route.
But those people are also wrong. Go on, GDchad.
No seriously get the fuck out of here, don't get spoiled user.

No, just play BL and GD too. Overall you learn the least on BE of any routes.

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>smash shitposting
I want you to know, that nobody likes you
not your family, not your friends, not the community you try to falseflagg for
you are one of the least likable people ever born on this earth, and it will be genuinely better off if you kill yourself I'm gonna be hoest with you

I wonder how Hubert would treat such

BE is "Edelgard lies out her ass to you" the route.
Practically half the info she gives you is objectively proven wrong in other routes.

You learn the least on BL, but it's good if you like Dmitri.

>but ultimately seeing how every route ends, it's not THAT crazy of a line of logic to follow.
after seeing how every route ends you'd have to be a complete fucking dipshit to think Edelgard is the most competent at uniting Fodlan.

I'd argue that Black Eagle is the best route to start with, because playing any of the other routes (especially GD) first makes Black Eagle a lot harder to play on account of recognizing Edelgard's retardation.

Well even the guy that was screaming for her head in-game had her as his waifu.

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Thank you friendo, but I just finished the route so I'm safe, the new game + is so cumbersome though, I need more renown

Begone, smashkek.

Because literally no one has played Jugdral. Arvisfags defend him to their last breath and even go so far as paint Sigurd as a warmongering just to make him look better. Your revisionism doesn't work here.

>She's set up as a deeply flawed and tragic figure, which kind of sets up this expectation that there will be a fall from grace of some sort

user you can see this happen in literally any route outside of hers. They even wrote a song about it and it's kind of the game's theme song remember? There's a reason Edge of Dawn doesn't play as her credits theme.
Not every character needs a massive amount of in your facecharacter development to be captivating .Claude has some very subtle development as well but he still comes off as very likable from the naive athest hippie to becoming a god fearing seasoned worldly leader who understands groundwork has to be laid in order to foster diplomacy

The Rhea/Edelgard choice is the ultimate pleb filter of the game.

>when Forsyth succ me

>implying
Yea Forums loves villain characters
if he was voiced by FukuJun doing his very very angry screaming voice these threads would be filled with apologists still

Arvis purposefully decieving and murdering an entirely defenseless army is just about worse than anything Edelgard does. And clearly you do not visit /feg/ often because Arvisfags definitely exist

I feel like you learn a bit more about certain aspects on BL, ssuch as the tragedy of duscur and other past events, though I suppose you may be right as you do learn little of the overall picture.

>Hey El, wouldn't it be funny if we ended the war by having sex with each other? Haha surely it would confuse the troops right?

>They even wrote a song about it and it's kind of the game's theme song remember?
>I-I didn't want to do it, I was forced!
bullshit, she chose this path out of pure messiah complex induced delusion.

>Yea Forums
Yea Forums is purposely contrarian to pretend to have patrician taste.

I literally cannot wait for the inevitable Jugdral remake. You niggers are gonna treat Arvis like he was fucking Senator Armstrong

1] Arvisfags are even more obnoxious
2] Arvis isn't nearly as sympathetic
3] Arvis never even plans to overthrow Manfroy

>smash your head, break your neck, stab your chest...

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Help pls
Can i make my Byleth a wyvern master even after achieving enlightened one?
Im still on my 2nd month for beagles trying to not fuck anything up.

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A way better character than I expected once he was introduced

yep. enlightened one is just byleth's unqiue class. you can leave it and join it again freely like every other class

Honestly my best advice is to completely ignore the statues. They aren't worth the renown dump once you get the low cost rewards.

You can't just say "oh well it's fine because she has things happen to her in other routes", each route has to be viewed from a vacuum because each route should be able to stand alone as a good story (not to say that you should get everything from every route, just that they should all have cohesive and satisfying narratives).
And comparing Claude to Edelgard isn't really fair. Claude is a fairly static character in the grand scheme of things, but he has a flat character arc to compliment that. His entire deal is pretty clearly about unifying various nations to combat a bigger threat, which is why Nemesis ends up making sense as both his antithesis and final obstacle.
Meanwhile, Edelgard just doesn't lend herself to the same sort of arc, and as such her route ends up feeling less like a cohesive narrative and more like a series of events that just kind of sort of happen to her.
Frankly, I think just handing Edelgard her happy ending was probably the biggest mistake (though not the only by any means) the game makes in this regard.

you can, you're not forced to be enlightened one

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You def can. You just have to train the skills and use a seal, just like any other unit. I do that now and then because I get bored of magic/sword user.

How the fuck am I supposed to get any money to repair shit post-timeskip since apparently my dear empress can't spare some fucking war funds

You can love a villain while acknowledging that they did something wrong.

My Assassin Petra has over 40 speed.

aux battles, sell stuff

When your options are to begrudgingly assist the shadowy organization that shares a common goal in uprooting the church's influence until the time is right to depose them, or attempt to openly resist said shadowy organization that rules your empire from the shadows that likely ends in you just dying for nothing, basic human preservation would make anyone choose the former.

No one is denying she has a messiah complex partially born from the survivor's guilt and sunk cost fallacy she has, it's a flagrant character flaw. It's also completely understandable how she got to that point

I wouldn't say the statues need to be ignored entirely, though the extra divine pulses should be ignored. You have two many as is.

>Edelgard just doesn't lend herself to the same sort of arc
What? Her arc is unifying the land to overthrow the evil Church which paves way to deal with the Slitherers. It's not any different from what Claude does. In fact he and Hilda and Lysithea basically say outright they are just picking up the pieces from Edelgard to finish what she started.

Sounds about right.

Like I said, you can grab the cheap rewards, but don't both going past divine pulses unless you're drowning in renown.

You can make her a fortress knight and she would still have 40 speed, her speed growth is godly.

This. Fucking Byleth ends up being the better leader of Fodlan when he/she wasn't even trying to because she/he only wanted to defend himself/herself from Edel after the player rejectsher in the Church route. Fucking Byleth. A commoner who didn't know his/her or what Crests were until recently.

I don't think any of the Lords are the "best" at ruling per say, but Byleth is a black hole of bad writing. As a mary sue you really shouldn't use him as a comparison for anything since he/she is an automatic self-defeating argument.

>just some chump that sits on the sidelines
>has no significant effect on the story
>presence is completely optional at that
>fucks off after the events of the game never to be seen again
If self-inserts could be more like Mark that'd be swell.
Also, if you're retarded enough the game will make fun of you.
>To this day, historians look back and question how these incomprehensible strategies ever led to victory.
serenesforest.net/blazing-sword/scripts/game-script/miscellaneous/battle-history/
>You seem to lack even basic skills.

Claude has story beats that lend far better to the narrative (namely his work in bringing the Almyrans on board), Edelgard just sort of tramples around and conquers shit for like 8 missions.
It feels less like a cohesive story and more like some sort of weird wish fulfillment.

Thing is at the absolute worst Edelgard is an Anti-Villain/Well-Intentioned Extremist yet Yea Forums would have you believe she's on the same tier of mustache twirling villainy as fucking Garon Validar and Jedah

>that likely ends in you just dying for nothing
I mean, it's not like Dimitri would relish the chance to fight the ones responsible for the death of his family. It's not like Rhea would want to finish the job and finally put an end to the shits that genocided her species. Claude would go along with whatever because he's bored I guess. Edelgard's acting like she's the only fucker in the continent that thought of the effects of crests and the church, when in reality others are working and have plans in mind to change things for the better without a fucking war. The one piece of information she actually has (on the slithers) she utilizes irresponsibly, instead of gathering allies from the Church and the other nations, she stabs them in the back to fulfill her ridiculous messiah complex. She deserves zero sympathy.

I think she capped on Speed by the end of my Beagles run
shame she stopped doing damage until I decided to put down the funds for a Killing Edge

You're veering pretty heavily into opinions territory now. There is nothing incohesive about systematically uniting Fodlan in order to launch a final spearhead assault against an insane pyscho dragon to liberate the Capital which sets up the stage to deal with the molemen.

I don't think BE has the best story either, but I'm not deluded enough to think it isn't a fine story. And your point about wish fulfillment is incredibly ironic since that's basically what GD is for Claude - it literally can only happen if all three other major players get btfo in silly ways for him to pick up the pieces.

There's not enough differences between routes. Part 1 is exactly the same. I kinda wish now they just combined BL and GD as one path, or maybe split at the timeskip. BE is worthless garbage.

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The problem is we don't actually get to deal with the molemen though, it's written off in an epilogue piece. This is what's so lackluster about BE

>or maybe split at the timeskip
this is what I thought was going to happen, I was very confused when I bought the game and they asked me to choose between three people I knew for about five seconds

>Sylvain doesn't get a epilogue with Dedue when he was the only character outside of Dimitri that explicitly didn't care at all that Dedue was Duscarian and gave logical reasons why his people being persecuted was either a false flag or orchestrated by a small minority that wasn't supported by the majority.
Ashe gets a epilogue with Dedue, and their support pretty comes down to cooking. Sylvain is underrated when it comes to support. He doesn't even a A class support with his childhood friend Dimitri. I completely miss the fact that Sylvain was supposed to be close to Dimitri in my first run as much as Felix and Ingrid are supposed to be.

I agree. But that doesn't mean it is not cohesive and "wish fulfillment".

yup, they're absolutely unreadable

ahh classic renaissance warfare

This. BE feels like some weird off-rails fanfiction from the persepective of Edelgard.

>it literally can only happen if all three other major players get btfo in silly ways for him to pick up the pieces.
And the fact that it literally also happens if he's not there: you accomplish the same things in Church without him.

who is best waifu and why is it glasses Petra?

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>All of BE is just a fever dream of Edel having her wish of fighting alongside and boning her precious sensei
Actually makes sense

Ingrid fucks Duscar men!

I mean, it makes sense. Her professor going along with her for no apparent reason, Rhea becoming a moustache twirling villain, everything going perfectly right for the Empire with them suffering only a single setback and the Empire ruling fairly and justly despite half them making enemies out of 2/3 of the continent.

>DLC
>Edelgard wakes up in Enbarr
>the crest of flames banner is right on her doorstep
>the Empire has been decimated and now the only thing standing is the royal palace
>final mission is just her
>condition: survive for as long as you can

I'd say Claude is the best leader simply because he is the only one who actually does foreign affairs.

Byleth IS a Gary Stu/Mary Sue but at least he/she is not always the center of attention, and doesn't speak a word,in fact, his/her St[S]u[e]yness seems to disappear along with loli tulpa,and you are mostly there to see the drama between the houses unfold........unlike fucking Corrin, who never shuts the fuck up, is annoying throughout the entire game and his sue/stu status is always the most important thing

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>I mean, it's not like Dimitri would relish the chance to fight the ones responsible for the death of his family.
In what world do you think that A. Edelgard post memory loss would trust Dimitri with that information knowing TWSITD spies infest the academy and B. Dimitri wouldn't go full murderhobo the second she mentioned she was the Flame Emperor. I cannot fathom how the fuck you can come to the conclusion things can just be talked out considering the circumstances of the pre-time skip narrative.

> It's not like Rhea would want to finish the job and finally put an end to the shits that genocided her species
Rhea and Garreg Mach as a whole is comically hopeless defending themselves from slitherer plots, and don't forget at the end of the day Edel still wants to see the Church removed as a central force in Fodlan so expecting her to be amicable with the said of said organization is asinine.

>Claude would go along with whatever because he's bored I guess
Except it is explicitly spelt out in GD that he doesn't have the stomatch to start a war (which is fine! Noble even!) Which at that point, what the fuck does he even hope to accomplish? Rhea is not going to just casually relinquish information that would upheave the social order of the entire fucking continent and ruin her own personal selfish escapade of reviving Sothis without the insanely dire straits she is put through and essentially having it forced out.

You seem to come from this comically moralfag stance that everything can be neatly resolved if everyone just talked it out, completely ignoring all circumstance and character nuance in the narrative as a whole. No one is denying that war is bad. Edelgard herself does not deny this and wants for it to end as soon as possible so previously mentioned sunk cost fallacy doesn't consume her whole. She is still resolute enough in her beliefs to go through with it anyway, and that's what I like about her character the most

I just got the game recently, I'm surprised there's still so much discussion

>literally ten million turns of Edelgard running out of the range of mages

>muh circumstances!
>muh convenient memory loss!
>muh waifu did nothing wrong!

Edelgard is a fucking horrible character. I don't even dislike her because she's evil (and she is. She isn't morally grey, she's a cunt) I dislike her because she's a badly written character only a waifufag apologist would like.

Dorothea's range is fucking ridiculous, I mean we can give her Hubert as well. He can try to snipe a few of them but then he'd probably run out of Meteor himself.

Edel can get decent Res though, especially with her upgraded ability. At least mine did.

Surprisingly he turns out to be a really cool guy in the Crimson Flower route.

It's too bad he's a simp for Analgard, though. He deserves a better Emperor (waifu) to serve.

Do anyone else ever fantasize about being an enemy soldier who captured and rapes one of the girls as a spoil of war?

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When did Robin go full retard? I mean, i remember Corrin being a pussy and doing stupid BS all the time, but i don't remember much about Robin desu. Its been long since i played Awakening.

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I honestly don't think he means that. I mean somebody needs to make some sort of story line for the one route where the player chooses to play as the bad guy. Sure there was a lot of mental gymnastics involved especially with Sothis even going along with killing all of her children and siding with the one that is making Fodlan bleed. This is why BE:E is by far the worst written route, and IMHO there shouldn't be a fucking everyone is happy route. There is no way what you said earlier would have worked out.

you were born in the wrong generation

>Post this when in 3/4 routes has Edelgard running away like a dog from Dimitri in the three way war
Keep in mind that Edelgard has TWO Crests, one of which is a major Crest named after the series itself, and only two other characters in the entire game have, in addition to being equipped with a recent artificial Hero's Relic, made specifically for Edelgard. Yet, she still runs away from a non-relic using Dimitri with a minor Crest.

t. Russian

>makes Ignatz a king because he wears glasses and it reminds her of relics
That's really pure

I'm not why this post made me laugh so hard

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The part that really annoys me about BE is how everything was just fine and dandy at the end. Even with the continent recently conquered and no doubt resentful of their new order, there's no mention of rebellion by nationalists or religious rebels, the slithers don't even put up a fucking fight. They just say "lol we took care of it tho"

Crest of Flames isn't even good.

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Your loss, BL route is the best one.

I'm kinda glad BE route sucks. Serves all the Edeltard waifushitters right.

If the house lords are SRW characters who would they be?

Edelgard = Char of course
Dimitri = Ryouma
Claude = Amuro?
Rhea = ???

You could say this for BL too considering Shambhala is completely intact, and even in GD with it destroyed Slitherfags almost managed to take Derdriu

I'd rather be captured and raped by an enemy female soldier.

>I'm glad there's less good content because I dislike a group of people who might not even exist if the content was better

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>BE cant recruit Catherine
I regret my decision of not doing it first immediately after the chapter where she's stealing your kills.

Does anyone else ever fantasize about being a guerrilla soldier who captures the enemy and takes all of their items?

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I like Blyat being apart of the GD the most. Something about the faction of goofball retards having an autistic stone cold professor makes me smile.

The only sex that appeals to me is loving sex. May as well just beat off if you don't care about the person.

Yea BE sucks but they don't have much to work with seeing that the real routes already fleshed out the lore and story. I kinda wish Church wasn't as bad as well, the final mission almost totally ruined church for me.

Overall for me BL > GD >>>>>>> Church > BE

Should had been Japanese, but the ones at korea or china not pearl harbor.
also this

absolutely based

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t. Somalian

That's not even taking into account CF for its limited maps has the best unique ones. Ch. 17 on Tailtean is kino as fuck.

CF clearly has signs of being rushed/incomplete but I wouldn't even call it bad. It's DEFINTELY better than Church

The important part is that I can date the teachers.

I fantasize about finding a wounded, defenseless Ingrid and nursing her back to health, being there for her if she needs me.

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>finish Black Eagles story
>Linhardt married Petra
>Hubert married Bernadetta

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Your loss there user. BL gives a lot of depth into Edelgards past you are missing out on. It is a good fucking route and the one with the most thought put into it probably-or they just did it first. Either way you are missing out on important parts of your waifu and Dimitri is pretty fucking cool as a lord.

This is your brain on obsessive tribalism over pixels

slithers too scared to fight against the BOAR, Autist Jesus and Dragonmommy without their leader so they just fucked off back underground

Corrin doesn't really give a shit when he's Birthright Corrin, but then again Birthright basically plays itself. It's just Conquest Corrin that's a pussy and Revelations Corrin doesn't matter at all.

>Hubert married Bernadetta
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO????

I guess over time more degenerate shit started to lose its appeal. Now I only find satisfaction in seeing both the man and woman enjoy the sex, vanilla is all I jerk off nowadays.

That's because most of the allies in the GD ending involving Byleth's ending were Imperial Scum that joined with those who slither in the dark to conquer the capital. BL has all the named Slitherer leaders, such as Cornelia, Thales, Solon, and Myson killed off along with their armies that joined them or the Empire in the final maps. They killed most off the Imperial forces too in that route, so the Dubsteppers couldn't rely on them and it seems that Thales was the only one who had codes to the nukes because no else had access or could use it.

Is it random? My Claude had rank A with all the girls and ended up with Leonie

>people actually advocate for making your entire roster fliers just because it's ideal in an easy as fuck game
I'd be too bored to have even finished the game once if I had done that.

The epilogue for why the Agarthians fell was the best in BL, without any bloodshed.

>command structure destroyed
>apparently Thales was supposed to be some sort of genius
>Dimitri's new system of rule drained the swamp thus their influence wane
>eventually they just took a page from the king of Fodlan seeing how stupid revenge was

I only fantasize about giving Manuela a happy marriage with lots of children

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>anal doesn't appear as a demon
should I be worried?

>Hubert married Bernadetta
This is what I was going for but I messed up because Bernie wanted to stay stag.

>goes for the old and busted version of Dorothea

its what she deserves.

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He's right behind doom guy.

Best ending

Blue Lions is the most traditional Fire Emblem story - Dimitri is the Blue Lord who loses his family and takes back his homeland from the big bad Emperor in Red Armor. It makes sense it's the one they seemed to focus on the most, it's just weird that the marketing seemed to focus 100% on edelgard and shes the one with the shortest route

>he didn't recruit her and make her kill her friends at Derdriu

Does Manuela even fuck any of the guys she dates or they all dump her before going that far?
What a bunch of fags.

No, it depends who they are the "closest" to. On their bio page they will have a section called "closest allies" where it lists the three units they have the most affection with. Whoever is listed first will be who they end up with unless Byleth marries that person or that person somehow has greater affection with another unit, then it goes to the second and so on.

No, it's whoever they have the most support with period. In my Beagles run, in order to make sure Lysithea wouldn't die, I had Lindhardt and her stand in the fire and heal eachother so I'd get their ending.

She's already 40. At best you'll get one sickly child with autism

most Fire Emblem lords don't go batshit fucking crazy halfway through

>Find any Wyvern lord that isn't Seteth or leveling capped speed pegasus girls boring
Same. Cyril and Alois may be exceptions when doing Church

small price to pay for beautiful experienced wife.

Is it worth making Mercedes a bowlass? I don't want to make another boring Gremory.

My mom was around that age when she had me and I turned out- oh.

which just makes Dimitri even better.

Blue Lions anime cringe:
twitter.com/shi_y_o/status/1168838802258874368

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>using Cyril
>ever

Sure, Dimitri has PTSD and anger issues that make him interesting but in general plot structure it's the same Fire Emblem story we've seen a million times

(This is not me saying Blue Lions is bad - just traditional and least subversive)

but IMAGINE
She's 33/38, they'll be fine. Womb only needs a little dusting

oOh thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind from now on, but I like how I can just let it happen too

>least subversive
good

Yeah, bows are great in this game. Forged iron bow is a great weapon on enemy phases, allows units to double enemies since they;re stupidly light.

How does Dimitri not snap his queen in two during sex?

>not killing cyril the very first chance

fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Discipline

Very carefully

youtube.com/watch?v=JSIOhhKBAm0

WAKEY WAKEY BITCH IT'S FISHING TIME

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Might as well beat the routes asap so you can get back to fighting over fucking Edelgard or whatever.

Funeral of Flowers is underrated.
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Yea but completely utterly empty because the slithers are just a few people who control an army of golems. When Thales got killed they probably disintegrated like when Nemesis got killed. In the epilogue they utterly just disappeared and that was what I assumed happened.

Hilda should have had supports with Dimitri. Her retard strength could withstand his.

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>Wanting the exact same plot format and structure in every single FE.

Get a load of this faggot

To be fair, Dimitri has legit superstrength that the game isn't even sure if it's his Crest giving him that level of retarded strength. Raph who is twice his size and taller couldn't keep up with him and Dimitri crushes a guy's skull one handed in one of the cutscenes. How is anyone expected to fight that in CQC?

the virgin Edelgard vs the Stacy Cethleann

>nonoNO I need my stories formulaic and predictable at all times!

What class should I make her? Or is keeping her a bishop just with a bow fine.

It's odd that the dubstep pylons use swords. Why not use the neutral icons that monsters use?

Subversion by itself isn't to be striven for, but coherency. Subversion actually takes effort to pull off correctly, you can't just throw a bait and switch and expect it to fucking work because its "different."

Because they don't function like monsters mechanically.

how do I tell if a monster targets Res or Def

Do you want her to still primarily heal? If so bishop is good, it actually is better then gremory for healing.

Get hit.

Fanboy autism doesnt allow them to be surprised though. They've built up in their heads how the story should go and they say it's "incoherent" or "bad writing" when stories twist conventions or expectations.

Yes, I do. Thanks. I'm still really unclear on when I should be giving my units bows and stuff since this is my first real FE experience.

>Edelgard: I could have totally taken you bro
>literally killed her entire batallion of elite royal guards
>about to kill her if it weren't for Hubert teleporting her away
>literally had to take slither steroids to fight him
>still lose
I don't think anyone is as powerful canonically and gameplay wise as Dimitri.

As long as you stick with mage classes for most of the game to keep up her magic state, then slap her with a magic bow.
>Implying she'll ever have the str to use a normal bow.

youtube.com/watch?v=um7hHBY40fE
Why is this soundtrack so fucking good?

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does the story change at all between routes, or is the war always the same?
for example, in black eagles Rhea turns into turbo dragon satan, if i go with Dmitri or Claude will someone else be dragon satan

So the alternative is to just never try and stay with the same stagnate bullshit that doesn’t move the needle because of the possibility you might fail?

user that is the most cuckold shit I have read in these threads and this is a series that has LITERAL cuckolding in it. Fuck off with that garbage

Dimitri is definitely the worst of the three lords simply on the basis he cannot fly without a comical amount of investment, and doing have a broken galeforce axe like Edel does

>crushes a guy's skull
Am I the only one that was surprised at how violent this game gets, considering it's Nintendo? I haven't played a lot of Fire Emblem so maybe I'm retarded, but all I've seen from Nintendo in terms of realistic violence is off-screen stabbing and maiming. Meanwhile in this game, the very first cutscene in the entire game has a woman stab a man to death and rub the bloodied knife on her face, and later on we get skull-crushing and on-screen stabbing with actual blood everywhere.
Did Nintendo go through puberty since the Wii U or what?

Edel, Flayn, Marianne, and Sothis

I failed to recruit her in my first playthrough. Guess I missed out.

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part one is the same, more or less, until about chapter 11, afterwords they all diverge pretty readily, more or less

No problem, Bows are a lot better in this game, in older games they're considered pretty weak, so using them has been a lot of fun for people. Mercedes' overall stats make her too frail to be a combat oriented unit honestly but she can definitely hold her own.

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3 Houses worked because the subversions were decently handled and didn't detract from the overall plot of the story, it actually enhanced it. It didn't go full Star Wars/Game of Thrones "muh subverted expections" despite the subversions running at odds with the core messages of the series.

Part I is the same between all routes.
Part II recycles a lot between certain routes, but every route has unique missions and a unique final boss except Church which steals BE's Rhea boss fight.

I'LL COMPLY

The war is same but the story and final boss are different in all routes. For examples, Dimitri and Claude routes don't have dragon boss.

Three Houses didnt have a militantly autistic fanbase pouring over theories and then sperging out when they didnt happen

well fire emblem always has been one of nintendos more violent franchises, permadeath is a mechanic and one of the series defining moments is when your entire party is burned alive, but yeah no this game can get pretty violent
I like it

thank frens

Shame about the lack of 3D models, but I'm still surprised there are portraits for glasses Petra and no-glasses Ignatz.

They know it'll support the characters with fanart if they gave them portraits at least. Well at least for Petra.

>implying that's the only reason why those subversions failed

>Sylvain's paralogue
why the fuck is this so EAAASSY?

In every other paralogue I couldn't get close to getting all of the bonuses, but in this shit it's so fucking simple. just rush the generals and kill the left overs. Meanwhile in Dedue's it was basically impossible to save the other side of the map because if you tried having Ingrid fly over they'd shoot her ass down.

Why couldn’t Church route just get Nemesis instead, it already is already very similar to GD. It would make a lot more sense than GAAARRRGGGHHH going crazy for no reason.

Nah, Nemesis singing opera about frogs and yatchs is better.

>that whole opening movie
>Seiros didnt just stab once for the dramatic moment, but like a dozen time screaming like a maniac
>bloodied sword hugging
Well that reaaly went off the rail

I've never met anyone who could really coherently explain to me what the problems were besides "it wasn't my headcanon and it challenged me emotionally so it is bad"

Rhea went through some shit.

They wanted it to feel "unique" but honestly it is worse for that aspect. Personally I think they should have done what BL did for its final map, take a map from from the other routes but dial it up to 11. Church's final map should have been Shamblala 2.0 with a fuck ton of Agarthans, the ten generals but made actual threats, and Nemesis.

>Hubert paralogue
>AI slither sorcerers suicide charge the monsters and get themselves killed
>Arundel complains I wasn't good enough to save them

Fuck you buddy. Why does allied AI attack even when the enemy's counter will kill them?

It has some basis of it being traditional but Dimitri is anything but traditional himself. It also isn't even necessarily a bad thing either even if it was the traditional FE route since it is probably the best written and put together route. Though that could just be because it was the first route and therefore the most complete route.

Shamir the crit goddess

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With Game of Thrones/The Last Jedi? Seriously? I get Yea Forums feels the need to be contrarian fucks about everything but they clearly fucked up on both of them

youtube.com/watch?v=PxDL_8GANvo
>that bagpipe
>that violin
>the heart beats
Pure, unadulterated kino.

Ok. I am going to be starting my BE run tonight and am only going to recruit two units, one from each class. Who do I recruit from Deer? Who do I recruit from Lions?

I can't speak of GoT, never watched it, but TLJ fails I feel because Luke feels so out of character.

>nonono snoke was SUPPOSED to be Darth Icky!!!
>nonono Jon was SUPPOSED to wear Targaryen armor and lightsaber duel the night king and fulfill some vaguely defined prophecy which wasn't even really in the show and then rule as King!!!

these are what the complaints boil down to. Both works have their own problems, sure, but people who pretend they're incoherent are wearing their childish fanboy entitlement on their sleeves

>when you play GD and watch that cutscene again

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>DLC
>500 years have past since the Great War
>Byleth decided to step down as archbishop and introduce a democratic election process of electing leaders
>not knowing what to do with yourself you decide to retire to a small village where no one knows you
>gets visits from Rhea(if you don’t S-rank her that is), Seteth and Flayn
>the years flew by and half a millennia has past
>mankind once again grows ambitious
>new enemy is trying to once again gather all of the relics pieces and wage war against all of Fodlan
>new quest is to gather all of the relic
>starts off with two other Units Flayn and Seteth
>final mission is Byleth sacrificing themself to resurrect Sothis

Your favorites, just use who you like. The thing about BE is that they had to get kind of weird when justifying why some characters join your side so some of the cast is really out of character on BE.

Byleth is a demigod so she likes his powerful strokes into her pussy.

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They confirmed the dlc will not take place after the events of any route.

lysenthia for deers because she's the one non eagle student el has a support with, for lions.....felix is super easy to recruit and really good, so probably him

Isn't Lysithea a really easy late game recruit

I recruited Raphael but that's because I just thought he looked cool, and "do they look cool?" is basically my only criteria when I choose characters in these games.

Lysithea is best mage and give more wrap. Felix is best physical fighter because BE class is kinda lacking in this part.

Just wishful thinking on my part, another part of me wishes Nintendo would do the same thing for FE that they did for BOTW.

yes, but recruiting her earlier means that she doesn't miss out on the pre war phase growing

But what about the kids I had with my wife?

Dead...

BL final map so far has been the hardest one I have faced in the game so far. All those fucking mages and the demonic beasts.

I love TH user, I really do, but I don't want it to become a dead horse. It has its problems but I would rather have the conclusions we have now then see it become Fates tier.

I wasn't too fond of how much of a cunt Lysenthia was when I played through GD. I didn't use her much either since she only had 5 move and everyone else was on horses and dragons. Maybe I will try her again.

I can't recruit besr girl Hilda into BE and I didn't like the other girls in GD. The guys were ok, but I don't know if I want to recruit Lorenz for the third time again, as based as he is.

She is a good mage, she just has shit movement and a shit personality. I might feel bad about recruiting Felix in that route, he doesn't seem to fit the roll considering just how tsun he is.

I found it the hardest as well, which is funny since Hegemon Edelgardis the easiest boss. That final section with the metric fuck ton of mages is tough.