CLASSIC IS ALREADY FALLING APART, BECAUSE OF AOE DUNGEON CLEARING

I wish people understood that the NO CHANGES mantra is just because nobody trusts blizzard to make the correct ones. Classic aint vanilla.

well 2 weeks are pretty good for a game

>People analyze the broken mechanics of an old as fuck version of the most played mmo of all time.
>Somehow you're not only surprised but offended that people are playing it using the most optimal strategy

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U think u do but u don't

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Despite it only being 15 years, people back then and now are different.

Classic is based on the 2006 patch that released 3 months before TBC. Thats why its not like the Vanilla you remember from 2004

Classic is all that's wrong with today's industry, instead of making companies design and produce newer more original ideas with gameplay improvements, blizzniggers eat regurgitated shit over and over and are still dumbfounded when surprise surprise turns out it wasn't as good as it sounded.
Classic is the example here but reboots are the same thing, unless its in order of preserving games for the newer systems.

I don't play on try hard streamer meme servers like Faerlina so this doesn't really affect me. They also already fixed the 10 man 5 man farming. Seriously who fucking cares a bunch of try hard poopsockers cleared MC within 2 weeks. None of of those people play on my server, I don't play with them or people like that, so it has no affect on me.

its bullshit when they wait until you arrive then come up with some stupid aoe farming thing they want you to do and you disagree and they kick you out of the group. because they want to skip half of the shit to get xp quicker. they should advertise their groups as such and not be dicks acting like theyre scamming is a part of the game
i played on a cracked server and as i was levelling up these people were aoe farming mobs that were part of my quest. i couldnt do my quest because of them. i told them to invite me o their group or id report them for harassment, cuase it is harassing as your trying to do your quest and theyre scamming all the mobs for just grinding for money or loot, and their aoe farming and stealing mobs.
they invited me until i got my stupid x kill quest done
but i mean, the game would fucking suck with that shit.

/thread

blizzard cant make a game nowadays anyway. all they think about is thier next expansion or how to change teh genre to fit an expansion

somebody already posted /thread you dumbass

I would pay if they released TBC instead of Vanilla.

As someone that's literally had to do rep grinds and kill quest givers, its not my fault blizzard set it up that way and some of these quest givers give escort quests. Its not harassment or targeting you in the slightest youre literally beneath my fucking notice when i'm busy grinding.

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home

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Explain the problem? People aoe grinded dungeons before also. People are just better at it 15 years later. Are people retarded?

>level 66 death knight complaining about people playing classic wrong
really makes you think

I actually hope they don't, because I'll end up being sucked back into the WoW life.

This guy is extremely autistic and probably didn't even play vanilla
People used to aoe farm dungeons back in the day too, now three's just more people doing it

>zoomer
This.

>people complain about every retail dungeon being mindless AOE rushes
>vanilla is exactly the same

seems J allen brack got the last laugh.

didnt they increase group xp that isnt very vanilla like, and leads to groups trying to kill anything around while they made this game a quest game. stop trying to turn the game it is into something it isnt.
but u dont have to worry about that do you blizzard helps you with that.

the screencap sounds like a low level bait so ofcourse Yea Forums is gonna have a 500 replies thread about it

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>Be shitter
>Demand to be taken to content in retail
>Get denied
>scream
>Be shitter
>Demand to be taken into content in classic
>Get denied
>Scream
Lmao shitters get fleeced and mocked in retail and classic alike.
Get.
Fucking.
Good.

JUST

I mean it's like they haven't had like, forever to correct these issues or something.

This is what happens in most of the old MMOs. People armed with optimal strategies simply go back and obliterate the original game. In doing so they discover and show others that it was actually more hollow and flawed than they all ever imagined. Classes that don't fit the meta are excluded. Playing any other way than the most optimal way are deemed wastes of time and you are left behind for not utilizing them.

The game becomes narrow and it's basically just a matter of who can execute the one combination milliseconds more efficiently than the other. In a video game, certainly in an MMO, this generally ends up being retarded and boring. It feels like you're just doing math problems at that point and if that's how it feels, you're better off doing actual math problems.

If you re-released EQ for example, everyone is going to create characters based on what they know the optimal group and raid configurations are in the end game. On DAOC private servers there are HUGE numbers of Skalds for example because they are fundamental to every PvP group due to their speed boost. This creates the issue of no Skald, no PvP group. Which further enhances the problem and causes more people to make Skalds.

At the time these types of things weren't necessarily design flaws because there was a significant distribution of classes and players. Also the way the end game would pan out and how the devs would balance things was unknown. When you revisit these games though, it's like taking a test with the answer sheet next to you. Now the game isn't about playing the game and discovering anything. It's about just filling in the blanks and the only losers are the ones that were naive enough to think other people wouldn't be bringing in the answer sheet.

>be retarded gorilla
>watch everybody else do the stuff by watching videos like a lonely virgin you are
>go back in the game act like you know everything and when someone asks to come along cuss them out so you feel better about themselves
typical retard in wow now

No, people complain about retail because people are just afking on a queue instead of being out in the world doing stuff

Wait, is this real? Classicfags are beyond pathetic, what the fuck

YOU THINK YOU DO

Those idiots still dont understand what are they nostalgic for.

people are resentful they don't level as fast by doing quests

Awww is whittle sissy boy angry he got refused again because he’s a baddie?
C’non sissy bread, post your parses, r.io and classic AND retail mains.
Remember anything beneath 2k and 80+% means you are a subhuman shitter.

>doing something before everyone else
you just described literally every fucking game ever.
i do not see the game as ruined. except when you find assholes acting like their aoe grinding is a normal part of the game then they invite people to do "normal" things and they get there and it turns out they want to farm a certain pack of mobs instead of doing the quests in a dungeon that are part of the quest rewards cause yuo dont care about levelling and gearing you care about end game. which noone cares.

yeah unlike those classic players camping instances.

faggot retard who goes around watching the videos of how everybody else does it before he does it himself in the game. not to get the idea of how to do it, but to tell everybody else they are smarter than them just because they havent done it. anything that seems the same way as this you belittle and berate them
godamn stfu stupid fuck

OHONONONO ZOOMER IS DDOSING SERVER TO BULLY ASMONGOLD OHONONO HOME BROS IM RIGHT HAHAHAHHAHA

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>get blown the fuck out in the other thread
>creates a new thread like nothing happened

WE DIDNT LISTEN

t. Shitter
Post mains if you are so good!
I can’t wait for those grey LFR parses lol

Well that is their own problem.

Is it really that bad? Im 25 on Benediction and there are still plenty of people doing quests and exploring and teaming up. Only seen like one dude try to AoE grind.
Sure there are poopsocking autists and dumb zoomers racing to the finish but why do you care? There are plenty of people enjoying the journey.

they are being dramatic

wtf are you talking about nigger group exp bonus always existed

Don't listen to retards.

Blizz idea of a fix is just to nerf things for everyone who didn't already exploit. Thats the real classic experience right there

15 years ago we were stupid as fuck. Nowadays everything is data mined and number crunched so hard if you aren't following the meta you are bad.

That's why online games are fucking shit now.

You should play the game however you want. There's plenty of people at every level.

Except at 59 where I'm at. The zones are fucking empty. Don't regret racing though, I go back to work next week.

Time's change.

>People are too smart for online games now reeee
Oh fuck off.

thats not the problem, the issue is that following the meta is so easy anyone can do it

Ive noticed on Benediction that the "average level" steadily increases as more people casually level. I feel like as long as someone stays in that bracket theres always stuff to do with plenty of willing participants.

I remember AOE farming from when I played WoW, and that was at launch. I haven't played it after 2005 or 2006 or something.

Is that a fake oldfag check or something? Or maybe its people who never played a MMO before WoW launched, because this was hardly a new thing. We did it in Everquest with wizards and enchanter stun/mes, we did it in Ultima Online with firewalls and earthquakes (but more commonly just with EVs).

Its almost like Vanilla WoW is a stupidly simple game.

Lots of people are going to have alts too.

I rushed to 60 so I could get ahead of the curve a bit and start farming shit, but I plan to play through casually on my alt after doing a bit of MC.

>people thought the Mythic+ mindset wouldn't come to classic
>people thought the zoomers and Blizzdrones would quit and only the "homebros" would stay

If you bought into the hype you did this to yourself. I'm still happy classic exists since I missed the old world lore but you'd have to be a lunatic to want to start vanilla raiding every week again.

Okay I'll go fuck off.

I reached STV. Realized the only Alli fp is in Booty Bay until 2.3 and then all my enjoyment just instantly poured out of me like liquid shit out of my ass.
I haven't played for two days now.

AoE grinding world mobs has always been a thing, but the "take 4 mages and a healer into SM and Blizzard everything to death" meme is purely a classic thing
that's how I understand it at least, I barely played vanilla and didn't touch private servers

hes right though. Every new game is a shitshow for a week or two before tier lists and meta guides come out

It's not just doing something before everyone else though, it's
>doing things before everyone else, BECAUSE you are utilizing an exponentially more optimal strategy than they are

You see this sort of thing happen all over in the real world. It's a diversity breakdown and not in an SJW sense, but in a feedback loop sense. This is why Blizzard started giving classes shit to contribute to a group just for being present. Because people were saying to themselves "I have no reason to bring your class with me, I will wait extra time for the class I want to present themselves and go with them...go reroll." Just tacking on a unique buff to a class added enough value in some cases that it was now optimal to include at least one of them.

Before that though, the class trumped the skill of the individual. No matter how good you were, you were better off playing the "optimal role." If you were good, you should simply reroll because you'd be a fucking God as the "right class." If you were an Enh shaman and refused to switch to Resto, reroll Warrior and be Jesus Christ. On a long enough time line this leads to everyone playing the same 3 out of 10 classes (and a shitload of people just quitting outright) which means from a design standpoint you've failed because you may as well have just not designed the other 7 classes anyway since they ended up being trap classes.

> The game can't be the same because the times changed and the people changed with them.
Not only that, normies try to protect that sacred "meta", cockblocking everything else.
It happens in every online game with matchmaking system. Try something working yet "strange", and you will be bullied every fucking time, you can even get ban for it.

>Hur dur using knowledge about 15 years of game should be bannable because you did not know it 15 years ago
Fucking autistic fucks playing a old autistic game

>been saying it won't be the same because even if it's a 1:1 recreation modern communities are not
>"n-no were going home your jsut a retail faggot :("
>proven 100% right from the start

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Things like this are what sour my mood about Classic. Ive enjoyed it immensely but theres so much frivolous nonsense to waste your time because they either didnt know what they were doing or needed to stretch out that gametime.
Like how the FUCK does Stormwind CITY not have a graveyard? Fuck you Blizzard.

thats okay blizzard i guess ill find something else to do today

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shit's being ddos by some scriptkiddie

>game has only been out for 11 days
>servers already shut down
OH NO NO NO CLASSICBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY, WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT IT AFTER ALL

lol what's the big deal?
I actually have a penis so I have played on a private server with real men and have come to expect hardcore strats.
I haven't really needed a tank yet because I've been hunter + lock clearing some dungeons. Vanilla just rewards skill and planning.

shouldn't have picked a meme server
im logged in right now

>implying it isn't the true classic experience without your server imploding every 10 minutes

usually they're questing in the same zone the instance is in.
or chilling in trade chat.

as a mage starting out on the beta, i can confirm aoe farming has always been a thing as soon as the first guys had decent gear.

HOW WILL WE EVER RECOVER CLASSICBROS XIV CUTSCENE TRANNIES WILL REIGN SUPREME SOON

my friends just chose the first pvp server we saw we assumed benediction would avoid shit like this

it literally is the same though
just like I remember

nope zoomer, it has always been like that.

You can make a classic server, but you can't turn the clock back 15 years.

Who cares? I'm level 32 and i don't care if someone decides to rush to level 60 in the first week.

I've already played a lot for only being level 32, and i've been focusing on my professions and actually enjoying the game. Someone being level 60 and getting bored after reaching max level doesn't affect me at all.

people are sure acting like it's 2004 in my server.
shit's great.

>pretend you're 15 like you were 15 years ago
Told you, Classic is a giant masquerade

I love all the zoomers getting mad about people talking about dumb /pol/ shit in trade chat and accusing them of bringing that shit into Classic, as if trade chat hasnt always been a cesspool.

I hit 60 with my Orc Warlock in 2005 by exploiting the slow moving oozes in Orange Maraudon with geometry and a ramp.

>game is almost exactly as it was 15 years ago
>The community will be different! times have changed!
>people act like they did 15 years ago
>i-i-it's a masquerade!!! see!

Sorry I don't recall Shecklestein spamming "FUCK NIGGERS" in trade chat 15 years ago.

Zoom zoom

im just talking about how the person who tells a guy to fuck off who just, asks to go along, as if they are the smartest person there. is.
and anyway if you are in a group and noone there knows anything about some part of it, just keep your mouth shut, you cant tell people what to do, until they do it they wont know how to do anything.
im talking about people who act smarter than everybody else and demeans and belittles everybody else, like the guy who commented about some guy asks to go and they told them no just out of no reason
>this dude
is who i mean to reply to guess comments about executing a button before someone else and calling that boring got mixed in to my comments

because you were not there.
one of the oldest screenshots of WoW i've seen is a black human named "Nigro" with his hotbars filled with nothing but watermelons.
this image is a decade old. You have no fucking clue kid. No clue.

>BLIZZARD SHOULD START PERMA BANNING NON-AUTHENTIC PLAYERS
>As he posts on a death knight
Why are people no longer self aware these days?

Leet post, my dude

Zoom your mouth onto a shotgun.

Back then, Yea Forums had a text board for news and I was spamming this both there and in WoW to agitate people and bring them to understanding the nature of the JQ.

Confirmed zoomer.

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WHAT TEH FUCK PEOPLE ARE PLAYING DIFFERENTLY THAN ME I CANT FUCKING BREATHE IM HAVING AN ASTHMA ATTACK

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The problem was never that WOW changed. The problem was that the players changed, and the game became shitty as a result.

This is why games don't last for decades unless they're fairly perfect.

>I'M STUPID AND ANGRY ABOUT IT

Biggest thing I've noticed about classic is Pally tanks are fucking awesome. If they put salv on me I can't even pull even if I spam AoE as a mage. So much better than shitty warrior tanks which I can't even throw a single frost bolt out without pulling from them.

>Stupid fragile zoomer gets btfo about people saying retarded shit in trade chat
>K-k-kill yourself!
Fucking 2006 Yea Forums had a banner with the WoW logo that literally said World of Niggers.
Your thinskinned zoomer ass is the minority and always will be, deal with it.

What is wrong with people on this board?

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This dude is mad because people are not fully buying it, he wants the cringy 2004 memes AND shit strats, don't (You) me again.

They were always great in 5 mans, now that the stigma has gone people are giving them a chance.

This entire game must be purged

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But there is no problem. We are having fun playing the game. You are... having fun screeching on an anime image board? I guess? Everyone wins.

Keep spamming chat so I can keep reporting you and getting you banned you little paypig.

my guild's highest level tank is a fucking shaman.
this shit is amazing.

>Can't quest in zones because of overpopulation
>Can't get into a dungeon group because I'm a Rogue with no constant AOE.

Great game.

Dilate tranny, nobody cares.

I am questing in a zone now and I have gotten dungeon groups when I've wanted to get into a dungeon. Why are you lying about a video game?

You just stunlocked yourself out of the game

how the hell do my 2 rogue friends manage to get into dungeons together?

how about just play the game the way you want to play it lol

2004 had at least one cool meme. The WoW General Discussion board had Fanta Shokata subtitled video spam in the lead-up to release.

youtube.com/watch?v=CLT7fFuZHMY

>1 second quicker executions is boring
typical reply of a pay2win retard
>muh berating other players who !wants to go
your the reason the game is toxic; community whatever.

Because you'd get banned for posting about WoW here, idiot.

Because it was normie shit back then. Even more so than now.

zoom zoom.
they don't ban you, they just mute you for a few days.

I know a little better than to wreck my server rep.

>literally resorts to NPC words

Sweetie how many subs have you bought now? I'm not even offended I just get kicks out of reporting you and seeing your whining.

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>play on any of the 20+ realms that arent the streamer one
>be fine
it's literally up on my other monitor right now fampai. stay mad

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>I was 28 the first time I started playing
Imagine playing WoW in your mid 40s and complaining about how people aren’t enjoying the “classic experience”

>Sweetieposting
>Le smug anime/japanese video game face
Oh boy

>mfw clearing dungeons without a tank
>just 2 rogues and a priest
All these clowns mad as fuck they were bad at a video game

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It isn't my fault that you are incapable of learning from a guide and project that onto everybody else.

Honestly something just feels wrong about Classic. Its really not the same, even private servers feel better.

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Wait is this real? It's not even based off of actual vanilla? I thought they were implementing the patches that came out in the game as if it was new?

this

Normal people will just play the game the way the want and enjoy the most. AddOns have always been an integral part of the experience and skipping them entirely out of spite is stupid, is not like the expansions, which we were forced to endure. VendorPrice is pretty much the only one I'd consider absolutely essential, but that's just me, if you like can't play without some other AddOn that's just how you do it.

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I'm 33 and quit before BC while my guild was stuck on Twin Emperors in 05 or so. Seems to me that the target audience for Classic are teens to 25 who "played" when they were 10 but never got to the raid experience due to mic requirements and whatever tard grade dexterity WoW calls for.

How about people stop caring what others do? I've been playing the game with my friends and its been great.

TBC was a better version anyways, shitters just complain about the flying mounts because they cant camp people.

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>I was 28 and I played like shit
>everyone should pretend to play like shit like in the good old days
this is one sad motherfucker

no you never did it once yourself to begin with is the point. you watched others who had talent and done it do it then went in attempting to copy what they did and you do that by berating everyone else.

not everyone wants to ruin the game for themselves by watching a video on how to do it. get th efuk out of here you toxic fucking shit. you berate people to make yourself feel like your better than someone else who has never done it EITHER>
scumbag fuckign piece of shit. if you were first going in there you wouldnt not take people who asked.

you are actually the toxic shit in the entire fuckign world right now

The Classic experience for me would be logging in and playing with like 6 real life friends and kicking ass together through the years. Growing up, hanging out, going to parties irl, busting each other's balls over WOW, finding new games, and so on. But I don't have any friends anymore and logging into Classic would be like logging into a grave yard.

It was an arrogant thing to say, but the real lesson should be that fixing the issues with modern WoW and how trivial certain aspects of the game end up being is more important than going back to an MMO that's 15 years old and has been optimized on pirated servers for years.

Classic bored me when I gave it a go, I'm probably going to spend the rest of my sub on retail.

>even private servers feel better
This
>left world channel
>game suddenly started to feel better again
Probably will join some guild at 60s and will do dungeon runs only with them.

I agree that TBC was better, but flying mounts made for some much better camping, stay above and drop on the fuckers as soon as they respawn.

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the biggest problem is that it doesnt matter whether classic is good/does well
retail is unfixable (yes i mean that), no matter what they do, they have the baggage of over 10 years of poor decisions
classic + wouldnt be good, and i dont trust anybody at blizzard to do a good job, i dont believe for a second that blizz knows what would be positive editions to the game and what would be negative
classic and retail have different strengths and weakness' and blizzard are simply unable to capitalise on the best parts of either
worst of all is the fanbase, i love warcraft to pieces but the community is unsalvageable, retail players will buy anything blizz throws at them and the classic community will preach for a certain type of gameplay, then go out of their way to avoid it
unironically the only thing that could work would be a new game with strict design rules that were followed, modern blizzard simply cannot/wont do that

People would spell out nigger with bodies in the middle of org. People have been doing this shit forever, it just wasn't some bullshit agenda where incels and trannys are warring endlessly like it is today.

Maybe you should start your own group instead of getting mad about being excluded.

NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WALK SLUGGISHLY BETWEEN LOCATIONS THAT MEANS THE GAME HAS MORE SOUL

>Amazongold

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>unironically using the word "toxic"

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you stupid peice of shit thats jnot what was said. they said a guy asks to go and they say no haha noob.
idiot stop replying to me unless you are going to incorporatee what this faggot said.

B-B-BUT HOME

Aoe farming dungeons was always a thing, pallys used to sell SM powerlevel runs to people

>unironically calls someone trying to go in an online game with you on a group "demanding"
(you)
yea this must of been how the powerlevel service worked. its still shitty chink stuff tho

It's definitely fixable, but not by the current team that is Blizzard. This company has been infected by the business school algorithmic thinking of "remake rather than innovate." When all the creatives start leaving, you can tell someone poisoned the well there.

Nothing went wrong.
The game is the same, good and bad and it lets people see how it really was.
People being better at it than people were back in the day doesn't really matter.

You're literally demanding they put aside their preferences to allow you in their group.

>literally no one talking about the free server transfers being an absolute failure

Am i just too smart ?

>CLASSIC IS ABOUT PLAYING WITH THE COMMUNITY, NOT ABOUT PLAYING WITH FRIENDS ONLY

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>>literally no one talking about the free server transfers being an absolute failure
what happened to them?
I heard some guilds from Whitemane transferred to Smolderweb.

It was a failure because no one knew about it.

These threads are pathetic.

>I was 28 when I played the first time
So this guy is 43 and he’s still playing mmorpgs. Yikes.

>NOOOO WE WERE GOING HOME BROS

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>if you were first going in there you wouldnt not take people who asked
>i never said anything about being excluded
lmao just make your own groups.

I read that in Ron Burgandy's voice. Perfect.

this is without context. your the one who calls them demanding them pretending to be the "victim". im talking about in context of people calling others shitters, whatever you meant by shitter
>this dude.

How is retail PvP wise?

git gud

This is the trans mentality seeping into video games.
>Everyone tells me I'm a dainty little flower, now let my melee hunter in! My trans friendly DPS AddOn constantly tells me I'm top DPS.

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shut the fuck up if your not taking people no reason to claim to be a victim like a pussy toxic fag you are whos never even done the content.

What do you call a head shaped like that?

Agreed. People want to take back their youth. Its nostalgia just like all those other remasters. They sell well but nobody ever finishes them and they are forgotten.

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Literally only 13 people in orgrimmar on Arcanite Reaper

Also there were some people in tears on trade chat because noneof their friends transferred with them like they said they are going to.

It's an absolute shit show that blizz is trying to sweep. under the rug

When aren't free server transfers a failure?

Did you have an aneurysm half way though this post?

13 people in your layer.
maybe that server is permanently low. Maybe I got lucky, maybe you're playing alliance on a PvP server.

I just haven't had the same experience here.

Wtf are you talking about go into a migrant server. They are dead af

Anyone?

fuck are you talkign about? telling people no you wont take them calling them shitters and you have never even done the content.
you go through all kinds of shit to pretnd to be good. after watching the real talented peoplles videos that have doen it dont you? must cause all kinds of strokes right?
retard, yuou are like most of wows playerbase now. this is the fake mentalitity they put on people. you are being toxic in this topic now just as yuo are i life(blizzards company) and in game, (wow)
pure stupid shit

Fix the fucking dungeon farming already and respawn rates already, why is that so hard? This was never a thing even after vanilla in tbc and wrath.

I'm on a currently medium server so I guess it's not as bad here.

Flying sucked ass cause it removed all sense of world. Nothing matters suddenly when you hit your mount hotkey.

Yes, it was a thing. Look up wowhobbs SM farming

Dude I can hear the keystrokes booming

>i was 28 when i first played
Gee a 42 yo fatso virging dont like how kids play a kids game

This. Back in the day I spent half a year adventuring to 60, now I did it in a week.

Keked hard.

>This dude doesn't remember the axe, The Nicker
>This dude doesn't remember the constant stream of Arugal jokes.
Arugal is a powerful white man who lives in a castle. His servants are Worgen. Worgen spelled backwards is Negrow. Worgen back in vanilla consistently dropped snapvine watermelons and chicken legs.

I really would like to see retail be fixed, tho i dont know how much of wow would have to be deleted or completely redone in order to achieve it
imo they shouldve 'ended' retail at the end of legion, where the story had crescendo'd and gotten silly, ending with 'the heroes' sacrificing themselves to defeat kil'jaeden or something along those lines, that way they could roll back the importance of the players characters to a more reasonable level, rather than 'GRAND CHAMPION GOD KING SAVIOURS OF AZEROTH' but i digress
the world itself needs some sort of catch up, so that everywhere is in the same general timeframe, hell silvermoon is still in 'wow guys that lich king fella really hit us hard 5 minutes ago, amirite lads?'
things like class balance could be rectified, tho either direction of 'fair and balanced for all players' and 'some classes are simply stronger 1v1ers than others' would be controversial either way
they'd have to effectively pick a time period between major events and stick to it for a long period of time, expanding horizontally and incrementing changes to progress the story forward slowly, which would take immense resources,i doubt blizz would invest
the retail engine is buckling under its own weight, it wasnt too noticeable provided your pc was alright until legion, dalaran and now dazar'alore take forever to load, even on an ssd and even when you do get in, it takes a further 3 mins or so for the game to not visibly crumble (i56600k+gtx1060)
i personally do not like the more cartoony artstyle they have gone with since wod vanilla wow did a great job in this regard since it was lower poly, higher performance and the artstyle did a good job being 'serious' and vague enough to let you imagine how you wanted it
i havent even gone into things like dungeons, raids questing etc but this is long enough for now
havent been huge into pvp, not rly played retail since last patch, imo its not great, priests were god tier, even in 1v1s

Elder Scrolls Character Creation

It's clearly a bait post, the official forums are a shitshow at the moment with retail players in full denial that classic is overshadowing retail

the dungeon cleave meta is infuriating though. if i want to do a dungeon as a rouge ive to make a group myself or i am shit out of luck

one of the very, very few examples of a remaster being on par with the original. good ones are outliers, the rest are mere nostalgia cash grabs.

The entirety of classic is just people bitching about people doing stuff they didn't know about in Vanilla. I've used ClassicLFG to find every single group for every single group quest and dungeon so far up to level 44, and these assholes in the group don't even know. You'd have to be a fucking moron to not be using ClassicLFG.

Ye... yeah... home.

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People have and will always play the meta. Either get with the program, find a casual group or make your own.
Just stop being a bitch ass motherfucker.

I didn't fall for the Classic fad and instead just replayed what I never touched. Finished Warlords of Draenor and and started with Legion. It's pretty good so far.

If they end up releasing TBC and Wrath, what is the best way to implement it into classic? Separate it on expansion exclusive servers, while still having vanilla servers that appease vanilla players?

>Warlords of Draenor
>pretty good

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stfu you have no talent and no room to talk on anything about not taking some guy, denying him, claiming to be the victim then call him a shitter
go get ur 2 shekels from blizzard im sure they are behind this toxic community anyway. they endorse this type of behaviours while always talking about some toxic community that calls other people niggers but cries about that and punishes it. name calling versus harassing in game shit talking and attempting to take over any actions in the game becuase you called a guy a shitter for no reason you go around telling everyone else this same thing meaning you just think this persoanlly about him yourself but you tell everyone else he sucks.

fuck off and stay away from me everywhere

To be fair, the actual questing and leveling stuff wasn't bad. Everything after that though, was probably some of the worst shit this game has ever dealt with until BFA.
Assuming that guy just went through the leveling content and then left for Broken Isles after that, it would be a fair judgment.

WoD leveling was probably the best it had ever been desu

Yeah i'm sure your hand crafted build and on the spot master strategies outshine 15 years of theorycrafting.

>No fun allowed for Destro locks time to neuter!
Yeah fuck WoD.

I think the reason was that the 2006 build had the methods involved for security and anything prior would have just exposed a shit ton of account info in today's age

>Servers and zones packed with people still
Stop making so many of these stupid shitpost threads

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>If you re-released EQ for example, everyone is going to create characters based on what they know the optimal group and raid configurations are in the end game.
Well
On p99 there aren't that many paladins/SKs but you do see them. Part of it is that because there's so few of them their gear has no competition so there's some incentive to level them up, and they do provide some nice functions for a raid. You just don't want a raid full of them like you do with rogues and wizards.

blade flurry rogue fits fine, especially on horde with Windfury. It might be a little bit slower than just spamming warriors but if a rogue is there and you can enter the dungeon 10 minutes earlier it's worth it.

What the absolute fuck.
Myzrael isn't even a streamer server, this fucking retard.

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You have to grind reputations and m+ for gimmicks to compete past 2100 as certain classes, google shit like 'cut of death' 'cyclotronic blast' and look at some warriors on the 3v3 ladder for laughs, they run shit like double tank healing trinkets

Not only are the servers packed, it's amazing how game design can force people to make friends

If you want bags or enchants in classic, the best way to get it is to literally meet up with the person while they enchant/tailor something for you. It's mind blowing meeting someone in game after being so used to just buying everything off the AH in classic, and never interacting with anyone

Why wouldn’t I want to kill everything faster? Dungeons are there for me to kill everything and leave with some nice loot

all of these things were extremely common even during vanilla, it honestly blows my mind how so many classicfags just straight up don't remember huge chunks of what vanilla was truly like and instead tried to only remember their favorite stuff so now they're getting disappointed when they're getting the exact same thing

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WTF LEAVE BENEDICTION ALONE YOU DDOSING FAGS I JUST WANNA LEVEL MY TWO HANDED WEAPON I JUST GOT IT CMON

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Back then people didn't usually own 100's of games like they do now either so you really don't get the same enjoyment out of flow grinding as you might've when you were young and a game like WoW was the only game you played for months

How can I even consider that? There's got to be some other way.

>What went wrong bros
people realized it was just nostalgia and tha classic wasn't actually that good

>Get online after 30min wait
>Server goes offline
Oh no i didn't want to use one of my only days off to play.
Fucking NEETs destroying shit because they are giant manchildren yet again.

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>Release a 15 year old build of a game
>It's still fucking broken

I blame streamers and their zoomer audience. They roll on pvp severs then BITCH and CRY when they get pvp'd so they spend all their time AoE grinding dungeons. Their zoom zoom kiddos follow through because thats what big daddy asmongold does and now suddenly its SM runs with MAGE ONLY or WARRIOR ONLY.

Now that they're forced to quest they play like bitches and beg for gold and gear. The worst fucking qualities of a player get rewarded and their toxic attitude gets spread to their little toxic fanbase

I just got back into retail and it's not that bad really

cause you were not born, faggot
there was no ingame moderatoin or instant report you had to take screenshots and chat logs and personally log in and report on the forums of the person you had a tantrum against if you wanted a chance at anything to be done to them

THIS. Get fucked idiots

forgot pic of my brand new paladin

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IS THE GAME CRASHING FOR ANYONE ELSE? IM GETTING DISCONNECTED LEFT AND RIGHT

It's "vanilla" in regards of expansion content and later updates that released for the base game, but it's not factory-new as in being the most initial release of the game. I think it's logical, but I could see why that would bother people consider they took down the private servers that only people looking for would actually find.

This is a lie, you could contact GMs about anything and getting stuck happened sometimes. I fell through the floor in Booty Bay once and opened a ticket and was moved because the hearthstone couldn’t work

Hey stupid
Pay attention to post and you will know what is going on.

blizz is fucking with the servers so we play retail instead of classic prove me wrong

Yes it is for me aswell user Blizz error

Damn it, user. As your future king, I order you to purge this game.

It's just a shame leveling in Azeroth is trapped in permanent Cataclysm. Could really use some retouching to make the world a bit more evergreen.

>that`s too bad, why don`t you try the new BFA® expansion, now on sale 20 bucks off

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oh wow on sale now that the servers on classic are fucked up thats convient take my money good sir!

>aoe dungeon clearing was never a thing
>wowhobbs
You know nothing.

shut the fuck up faggot nigger and eat shit

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twitter.com/UKDrillas

Imagine thinking you are "baller" or some kind of rebel for making some people lag out of a video game shortly before you are arrested and imprisoned. I wish I could get to see the chimpout these apes have when the police kick down their door.

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Every classic shit on other mmorpgs have failed the same way because everyone already knows what to do and how to powerlevel the fuck out of the game. That said only nolifers are angry about these things because there are more nolifers than them. I know a lot of people that are still enjoying classic. They are just not nolifers.

You first retard

who would win?
>actiblizzard with its millions of dollars worth of server/network infrastructure
>one script kiddy from europe with a LOIC

I got kicked from a fucking group because the zoom leader doesnt know how to shiftclick my name when I said DPS LFG SM LIB and they said MAGE OR LOCK ONLY (I was a rogue). Every single dungeon group is asking for mages and or "LOCK LESS PREFERRED BUT WILL TAKE". Holy fucking shit I fucking hate zoomers they're ruining this shitty fucking game for me. I'm actually enraged atm because it took me 2 hours to get an SM group because every single one on Stalagg alliance is looking for mages only.

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>Please ban people for AoE farming Daddy Blizzard
Good shit senpai

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>Subscribe monthly to play a grindfest video game with thousands of tryhard nerds with turbo autism

No thanks, bro.

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>not making your own groups

Make your own, advertise it as an authentic run and not a speedrun.

>le
Invalid opinion.

That's one spicy theory

dont worry anons im heading to get this script kiddie now

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You're the only turbo here.

I want to play disc priest again. How does it fare at the moment?

>LFM SM Cath casual clear
It will fill up immediately with people who just want to get their quests done. It's that easy.

I did this on the same server as that guy and people would drop group when we didn't have two mages.

you didn't

What an autist.

Obviously playing on an alt so he doesn't get hate in game on his main.

>mad on blizzard forums
Try not to drink so much mountain dew OP it's not good for you, your teeth are gonna turn nasty

The AOE grinding is definitely annoying to see. Besides that I don't really care. It is the same game who cares if someone uses add ins.

hobbs was a level 70 prot paladin, in BC, who would run people through SM because it was dense, and Strath because pally vs undead

the things he was doing is nowhere near the scale of autism the streamers and jokerd have been doing

www.facebook com/damilolataylor.ellis

FACEBOOK OF THE DDOSER---- GET HIM ARRESTED LOL

YOU'RE NOT PLAYING IT THE RIGHT WAY
YOU'RE NOT BEING CLASSIC AND AUTHENTIC
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

stop trying to DOX your bully at school you faggot

this is 100% the ddoser fucking casual

twitter com/UKDrillas

do the work urself and see faggot

>Get.
>Fucking.
>Good.
Tigole, go home
Also, glad to see it's falling apart

>Tigole, go home
This is the home Tigole built though.

id love to know his/her/xir's reasoning behind the attack

That doesn't mean shit the hacker could also be memeing someone he knows

and nothing of value was lost

the hackers shitting his pants telling everyone hes not from UK hes has days old photos he didnt hide in his likes

WoD was actually good, the only problem was you ran out of shit to do

>This is the home Tigole built though
It's Yea Forums, not a WoW client

There's no way he's that retarded right bros

...anyone?

>WoD was actually good
Nope

You can tell from his twitter he's a nigger so yes he is that retarded

but remake 2 was vastly superior to the original 2 in all aspects. it's fantastic and 100% isn't forgotten lol

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

Even on launch the starter zones were empty. Then they flung shit at us and showed us the "could have been" capital cities and told us to go their to see

It's based on the last hotfix patch for Naxx. Not the pre-expansion patch for TBC (That changed talents around, added AP scaling to hunter spells, made dots tick faster with haste, and increased debuff limit to 40.)

>instead of being out in the world doing stuff
Such as..?

>using macros
LOL what a shitter. Macros were a huge part of vanilla and tbc play. Also addons like threatmeter, but this retard probably never raided.

yes he is that retarded

>We're sat here drinking our sodas and laughing at the peeps who think we're actually based in the UK. =)

last thing he's said after nonstop shit talking. He's been absolutely doxxed and is shitting himself

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it's going to be funny seeing blizzard nerf different classes this time so when wow classic catches up with retail it's going to be another completely different game gameplay wise.

Doesn't that mean pallys are unstoppable with infinite mana. Or am i thinking BC talents?

What a faggot holy shit

Mods were around in vanilla
AoE farming around since Dire Maul
Discord is the modern day's TeamSpeak / Vent
Meta gaming = thottbot

These people never really played vanilla

Nostalrius was unironically better.

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Where do you think Blizz got the numbers from?

I've actually told friends to roll rogue, mage, or hunter because we're full on tanks and healers.

>Playing something other than what you want to
Great game

How is it broken?

>nobody used macros in vanilla
>nobody knew how to do MC in vanilla
>nobody played with their friends in vanilla
>nobody used AOE in vanilla
>nobody kicked people from groups in vanilla
>nobody knew how to play in vanilla

Aspergers

TBC was better overall but flying mounts sucked. Also most of the gear was clownsuits and then wrath overreacted by making all the gear sets boring furs.

You sound like a fucking faggot. It's not harassment to kill stuff. I bet you're one of the cunts who report people for ganking you on a pvp server.

This the equivalent to saying Bards didn't train entire zones back in classic EQ days

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Why would anyone want WoW 1.0? Half the classes were literal trash fires until like 1.4 at the very least.

You're thinking TBC talents.

Most of the High/Full servers are getting hit too.

Is that Paul Allen?

There were a lot of stupid things in early wow like warriors being able to /sit and proc enrage at will. People have also gotten better at the game, so much so the old instances are being easily aoe farmed. If you allowed the old broken ass shit into the game, it would be even more broken than it currently is.

Based and EverQuestPilled

Retard. I've been farming SM all day as a Rogue.

He's an adult doing what little kids do in fighting games.
>Throwing is cheap, stop it!
>Don't block everything I do, that's cheating!
>Those big combos aren't fair!
Just make up stupid fucking rules and expect everyone to follow them.

Every single time I don't let alliance effortlessly kill me I get reported, so there's that.

Anyone notice that he was 28 when he first played, so now he's 43-45 years old and reeeeeing on the wow forums?

Every new game is fun for a week or two now.
Before everybody starts eating up tier lists and meta guides and try harding.

People had all kinds of macros and addons and external VOIP applications back in the day.

Certain addons were REQUIRED by most guilds in order to raid.

If barrens chat wasn't full of chuck norris jokes or other shitty memes from that era, thunderfury spam, sexual innuendos, and shitty trade deals, it was full of people arguing about Bush or some shit.

More like "I'm thinking of this or this. What should I roll?"

I don't think you know what scamming means.

You got scammed into paying money for a free game

The classic experience was only possible back then because no one knew what the fuck they were doing. When you already know everything about it it stops being an adventure and it's just a MMO with outdated mechanics.

People always seem to forget that Vanilla had Decursive and it used to be a one-click button that would automatically target and cleanse people. I don't know why people think Vanilla was nothing but people using stock UIs

you are scaming the server trying to make it something it isnt when you ask for people to do a dungeon and you skip the best parts cause it doesnt pertain to your aoe grinding, or you leave out the end. becaue you decide to run the dungeon how you want. but you call it lfg for a dungeon when you dont fucking care about th edungeon only what ever you want. and we hate your aoe spamming shit. you only take yourself to the end but you try to drag everybody else thorugh your stupid aoe grinding skip all of the game shit.

becaues it never ends with you anyway, you want your next expansion your loot immediately and some different constantly.
you are not casual, as blizzard caters to, you are not pro, same thing since you think you are so pro, you are toxic

Stock UI players are low IQ, so of course they assume everyone played like they did.

>Thread

Sweep what? They literally said this was going to happen. It's not news.

Benediction master realm also here. Warlock will be my first level 60. Level 34 now, Might do a hunter or war after if Im still interested cant wait for BRD.
You play the game to have fun. People are gonna break the 15yr old game and exploit its design flaws. Hell 15 years ago thotbot was pretty much the biggest databasr on wow you could find. So eh have fun in Stranglethornam

you can always try FFXIV's free trial

if there was an in game threat meter it'd be pretty fine desu

My ideal 5 man group involves a rogue, unlockable chests are always nice for farm runs. Fuck it have fun itsa 15 yr old game

ret aura plus t1-2 consecrate amd ravagers axe was aoe farming easy mode. And i had no idea how to play the game back then.

those mechanics have been around longer and there's a larger playerbase educating each other

really not that complex, literally 'it was a different time' compared to how we are now with mmos

Built in threat meters and better raidframes was all vanilla was really missing, anything beyond that is just extra convenience.

heh
niggers

BC talents, part of the reason pally tanks werent taken seriously beyond 5 mans was because of the huge mana problems they had. I would OT as a pakly though all the time in places like brd just cause though.

Why are you all so stupid? Players never wanted vanilla itself, but an atmospheric, immersive and challenging game. All blizzard had to do was dramatically tune up the difficulty of all dungeons and raids and they would have 10+ million subs.

>asmongoloid is getting all money from his viewers he can and says that he don't give a fuck if retards on reddit will be mad
pretty based desu

>atmospheric, immersive, and challenging

Then they're playing the wrong game if they want that out of Classic. Fucking LFR is more challenging than MC.

>All blizzard had to do was dramatically tune up the difficulty of all dungeons and raids and they would have 10+ million subs
they fucking did, how in the actual fuck can vanillaboomers be so blinded by nostalgia that they honestly believe anything about it was even remotely challenging, even low level dungeons in ffxiv have more going on than 99% of the content in vanilla

WoW nerds were pathetic back then and they are pathetic today, nothing has really changed and people of taste always played arena shooters back then.

The pathetic people have always been the ones sperging out about people playing games they enjoy.

>how in the actual fuck can vanillaboomers be so blinded by nostalgia that they honestly believe anything about it was even remotely challenging, even low level dungeons in ffxiv have more going on than 99% of the content in vanilla

Because they were retarded children when they played WoW so clearly it must have been a super hardcore MMO.

I just want to play my shaman, bros

In what way is Classic falling apart because some people choose to play a certain way? At most they're robbing themselve's of what could have been an enjoyable experience. I've played the game just as I did back in the day, questing, running some dungeons with a normal group and a little bit of grinding every once in a while, and I've had a good time.

attention, he DDOS'd wikipedia as well, the 14 year old just wants attention

weren’t the private servers kept alive for quite a while?

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So basically Boomers were retarded and did things inefficiently and people are mad cause everyone else got smarter?

Private servers do the same thing, guy. 1.12 is the most stable patch.

That's why the meeting stone LFG was built the way that it was. You don't really need a tank or a healer, you just need well prepared good players.

>private wow classic server is perfect and is steadily growing for years
>blizzard shuts the private servers down for their own wow classic and within 2 weeks of launch the player base is already dying
great job blizzard bravo

Everybody knew he'd start taking handouts the second he'd hit even a small roadblock in progression, there's a reason that Wojak image exists

>i was 28 when i played the first time

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Goddamn, that's pitiful. I'm hardly one to bitch about oldfag bitching, particularly on Yea Forums, but nothing's going to satisfy that guy short of a fucking literal time machine. Is that really what they thought classic would be? I hope that's just an extreme (and singularly naive) example.

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>servers are literally shitting themselves right now
blizzard is dogshit lmao

This guy is DDOSing the servers, we already got his facebook
twitter.com/UKDrillas

Wow, like three quarters of the shit this guy said is flat out false.

>Like product
>It's made by a hopelessly retarded company that literally can't do anything right.

Seriously who gets DDOS'd in 2019? It's standard issue for everybody to have anti-DDOS shit in place. They have to be doing this shit on purpose because their isn't man alive that could eat the amount of humble pie they got coming to them when they finally have to admit people actually wanted vanilla and the only people who like what they've done with retail are chink gold farmers.

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wow you're even more retarded than blizzard is

>PLEASE COME BACK I NEED YOU TO LOOK AT MY MOGS MOUNTS AND CHEEVOS

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>Just buy DDOS protection lol
Wikipedia got DDOS'd the other day and they're massively more important than some shitty WoW servers

it's a back end DDOS attack, that means he isn't attacking the blizzard servers directly he's attacking their ISP

>My day off
>Servers are being ddos
After 15 years you still can't thwart a group of neets.

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I've been playing Classic, but the thing that made me dislike the guy is that he DDOS'd Wikipedia

I'm curious how this works. Could you explain?

Nobody likes Asmongold

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>friend wants to play in a full server
>agree, play mostly in the morning anyway due to inverted schedule
>get to lv20, been grinding my professions way above what they should be at this level
>friend says he's switching servers
>would rather die than go through early leveling again
aye thats it for me lads, Classic was fun while it lasted

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free realm transfers for high/full pop servers.

Pretty sure you can transfer off of a full server for free at the moment.

He's being retarded on purpose.

>server is perfect
The only reason why people didn't do dungeon grinding on private servers was because group xp was bugged. Private servers were buggy as fuck and had tons of problems with chinks, shady admins, and servers constantly dying when a new server came out.

Even in cases where it wasn't bugged, the people running private servers often had to literally guess at how some less well documented shit worked like almost everything to do with NPC HP, Armor, Damage, Abilities...

>but remake 2 was vastly superior to the original
>lol
No

Yeah don't listen to him go-guys, get your subs ready its going to be a long wait until phase 2!

the trasnfer is only from the full server to a single other server, they're not giving you the option to trasnfer to any of them. Guess how that makes it difficult to switch to my friend's server?

Roll a tank. The group has to do whatever you want now.

*stops healing you*

whats the best energy bar/swing timer addons for rogue?

What does what i said have to do with jews or jewing people.
How are you so stupid?

fuck off retail tranny classic is perfect

stop trying to bait
you're horrible at it

dilate

Yup, what can you do about the community being full of zoomers who just want to GOGOGO? People were willing to LARP as comfy slow-leveling boomers for all of 3 days before this cleave nonsense took over.

kill yourself underage

you mad?

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xD

Leveling in Vanilla is fucking awful. I don't blame them for using a more efficient method. The faster it ends, the better.

Equip or sell?

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Why is every thread about classic on here blatant lies?

>Worgen back in vanilla consistently dropped snapvine watermelons and chicken legs.

omfg, never really made the connection.

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kys

Nice

Because almost everyone is pretending they played vanilla but almost no one actually has. Consider how much of this site is newfags who came here 2-3 years ago, and the average age of posters is somewhere between 14-20, you think we're suddenly flooded with people who played an MMO almost 15 years ago? Almost every last person professing knowledge of vanilla wow is getting their info from other people or they're just straight up lying.

O B S E S S E D

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Was Tigole a hack?

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A back end DDOS attack means that's it directed at the servers from the ISP, in this case google and amazon provide blizzard services for their game, they attacked that.

Holy shit this individual is in his late 40s and behaves this way.

only zoomers that didnt play the game back in the day are crying about the NO CHANGES thing. everyone who actually played wow back in the day has all the fucking addons and is aoe farming like a mad man.

I played back in the day and aoe farming dungeon is stupid
nobody did it back then and I dont wanna do it now because it's lame as well

if I want to grind dungeons I can go play retail, at least there I have a bit of challenge

>nobody did it back then
yes they did

yeah dude trade chat was full of LFM SM AOE FARM
seriously just shut up

classic just came out and there are a lot of people farming, just because half the server didn't need to do it all at the same time back then doesn't mean people weren't doing it

LOL wanna give that guy a swirlie.

honestly I think it would have been better to make a spiritual successor to vanilla rather than just rereleasing it
part of what made vanilla fun was the sense of wonder and discovery

people who post on forums but don't use their main are fucking faggots and should genuinely kill themselves
fuckin poindexters

WoW Classic is like Woodstock 1999.

Same, i dont like vanilla that much but tbc is just great

what does that have to do with anything? vanilla had just as big a player rush if not a bigger one than classic
and it's not like it's just SM, BRD, stockades, at any level that people can grind they're doing it

and you can go ahead and pretend durrr that's just as it was back then but you and I both know (or maybe just I and you're talking out of your ass) that was not the case

>back then
People played for fun, built their characters as they went along and didn't care about being tryhard.
>now
Go into a wiki, read it all, find about hidden mechanics, make a cookie cutter, min-maxed build or you are fuckig SHIT and won't get into anything ever. What the fuck is this "fun" you are talking about.

Boy, all that wonder and discovery in a 15 year old game that's been played to hell and back.

It's going to accidentally lead to a resurgence of good MMOs though. People didn't realize what they were missing until Classic was shown along side retail. After this success, companies are going to take notice and try to fill the demand that they see.

>AOE DUNGEON CLEARING
Soooo its like classic? What the fuck those people want exactly?

it simply exposes the mental illness of wowkiddies

No, they just ran SM, and gathering shit up to aoe down was the normal way you did it if your tank wasnt a slow retard

everyone was a slow retard
ypu didnt fucking do this casually in pugs

that's the most uncanny looking tranny ever

You know I don't really remember aoe dungeon grinding in vanilla OR private servers. How did this become a thing?

Yes you did because back then the majority of mmo players still were not retarded and the concept of a 'pug' did not exist because that was the normal way people who played thousand hour grinding games leveled and guild groups were the form of partying that needed their own special name for clarification.

MMO combat up to this point existed in two modes. The single pull/cc adds type which you used in situations where single mobs were hard to fight and adds needed to be controlled, or the aoe grind type. Different games used these to different extents. DAoC for example was a very skewed towards aoe grinding, as was the at the time newly released CoX, whereas EQ tended to do single target focusing while CCing the other, as did games like the contemporary AC2, other games would very, but suffice to say any mmo player of the era would be well acquainted with this. Maybe the bnet shitters or the normies who came after seeing some celebrity on TV tell them in a commercial who WoW was their first mmo had trouble with this, but they were probably still trying to level when everyone who actually knew mmos had already reached the cap and probably quit.
Even if you were soloing aoe grinding was best, there were people aoe grinding as frost mages on day 1, because that was a normal thing people did on some classes in other games and anyone with the ability to read skill tooltips would have surmised its effective.

The only thing that was different early on in WoW really was at first, because having shitloads of filler quests everywhere was a new thing WoW invented, people were running each quest one at a time and treating it like something significant because thats what quests had always been in mmos up till that point. It probably took a few days for people to say fuck it and just do the swoop through a zone doing every quest while ignoring what you are doing thing, which is of course the correct way to level through quests.

Yeah no they didn't and this is new behaviour. Stop trying to astroturf.

I distinctly remember running SM several times for exp on my very first character at release.

A good tank always pulls the most the group can fight at one time, thats just basic mmo stuff.

>I distinctly remember running SM several times
wow that settles it then

>people didnt do it
>i did it
>n-no u!

congrats youre special
retard

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Why does everyone hate him?

he is the most popular wow streamer therefore he is an easy target

Are the ddos attacks over?

It most certainly is superior. Theres practically no reason to go back to the original now other than the fact that its vintage. I love em both but RE2 is probably the best remake of a game ever other than RE1RE

all servers seem to be up besides rattlegore. I still have the problem with the 80% load screen on rattlegore. Blizzard doesnt give a fuck because they got all the "streamer" servers up then said fuck you to everyone else.

>back then the majority of mmo players still were not retarded and
Now THIS is revisionist history. Go back and look at gameplay videos from back then. People were retarded as fuck. The dumbest most cancerous fucking mouthbreather you can find in retail today is probably more skilled than everyone but the top 1% of players during vanilla, and I think that's being charitable.

Like, imagine. Imagine playing as a frost mage, leveling by aoe grinding. Imagine that, while you're grinding zombies or murlocs or whatever, suddenly you see the notification. Honourable kill. How? Well, you see, a rogue was trying to gank you. And he got caught up in the aoe CC/damage and got killed alongside the mobs.
This happened to me several times.

People were so insanely stupid back then it beggars belief today.

When i say back then i mean the people who were mmo players before WoW even released.
As my post clearly states the people who came to WoW as their first mmo were probably way behind the leveling curve

NO CHANGES

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I've been ninja looting left and right, and stealthing on mining nodes/treasure chests

im enjoying how salty people are, they cry and whine and then call me a ninja looter in trade chat while I lie and call them liars and make up things about them

great game, fuck you

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These people trying to eternally relive some fleeting nostalgic moment from 15 years ago are really really sad

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No one's really doing that. It's just a good, addictive mmo. If you wanted to relive the past you'd level slow and read the quest dialogue, taking your time to soak it all in. But the game's just a reward treadmill to most people so they grind and rush to 60.

Most of the people I see are just enjoying the game at their own pace. The few that powerlevel like mad or cry because they can't recapture their youth can die for all I care.

>level 30 announcing that he is handing out bags in Brill
>go to Brill and low level people are standing in a queue to receive a bag

This isn't Home. This is Britain.

What went wrong is that people literally had 14 years to solve this game that's so shallow it actually has BiS items. Make new video games, constantly change little things in them so people can't use the cookie cutter shit they find on the wiki, make new areas, allow original gear customization (like in Dofus, but with better balanced PvP so not everyone goes for % resistance maging to survive the hilariously high hits of other players), and there you have it. The experience of wonder and discovery you want.

This bait post in the OF got people tilted.

Everything is going exactly as I predicted.
After one to two weeks will have the first major drop off of people discovering they just don't enjoy the game.
After 6 to 8 weeks even the people who can enjoy classic gameplay will start to drop it to as they realize they've already seen and done all of this before and nostalgia alone can't sustain them forever.
From then on only the most dedicated crazy autists will stick with the game and just play it over and over for the rest of their lives, because they are crazy autists.

yikes we got a badass over here

>LF4M MAGES SPELLCLEAVE
Private servers were more home than classic ever was. This is soulless.

What a fucking retard, you can find videos on YouTube from 2006 where people are doing aoe farming guides

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nosts's values were almost 30% higher than what classic has shown

What does Spellcleave even mean?
Isn't cleaving usually an attack which hits one enemy and 1 or maybe 2 more?

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>What does Spellcleave even mean?
It means: If you don't understand what spellcleave means then we don't want to have to bother with teaching you so don't ask for a spot.

dungeon cleaving, melee or otherwise, simply refers to mass aoe usage to farm mobs.

take care not to out yourself with this question ingame tho or you will be kicked and blacklisted.

Thanks for explaining.
It makes me sad that the community turns out to be like this.

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when is reforged coming out

31 of december

Because he is a liar. Pretends to know the game but doesn't. He fucked up several times during beta by going "WTF THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS!" but it turns out thats exactly how it worked. But he is not the first to pretend to be an idiot for money.

No one is forced to play with you, faggot.

When I tanked back in 2005 I always killed all NPCs in every dungeon. So for DM I made the group kill all the pirates on the islands and shit surrounding the boat in the end. So for SM I would pull every single trash mob.

This whole 10 man thing with only images and warlock is sone zoomer shit. But clearing SM multiple times by killing every mob was normal back in 2005 when I played. Nobody complained when I decided to kill everything and not skip straight to bosses.

/who is not layered retard

>tonight's forcast: dark
woa

How's FFXI

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can we now all agree that every single MMORPG on the market right now sucks

WoW was the half-eyed king among the blind and even retail and classic got shafted by actiblizzard caving in to publisher and chink demands as well as some retarded harpy-troglodyte crossbreed that they had to choose as the senior story writer and have the game's story crash and burn for the sake of identity politics

you're chasing a breed of game that died 15 years ago, if you want a modern game that doesn't respect anything about you then go play some gatcha shit

The only thing I agree with in that post is the cancer that is meta. It absolutely has it's place, but far too often it seeps into the general culture of a game so that even pure shitbag casuals start caring about it. Eg shit players who start kicking a class "because it's not meta" even when you can play that non meta class to a level that far exceeds most average fags playing a meta class.

I would honestly play it if it wasn't for the fact it runs and looks like ass these days.

I keep getting frame stuttering and can't find any resources on how to fix it. The original version of this game unironically ran better for me.

dead

>REEEEEEEEEE you're not playing it right! - screams the RPfag
Sounds about it.

It's fine for a dominant strategy to emerge, but people not wanting my hunter cause I'm a tauren is maximum no fun allowed.

Usually if they're that stat obsessed they suck at basics anyways, though

>MOMMY THEY ARE EXCLUDING ME