Waiting for the real home

>i hate everything bc i hate my life

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>things with mass appeal are everything and people don't like them they must be losers

Don't listen to this fag, warmane is absolute pay2win garbage flooded by chinks in all greens with the highest tier weapons they got from the donation shop.

WotLK was the best of both worlds.
Just the right amount of QoL changes, but still required you to interact with people.

>how long before Yea Forums has fortnite nostalgia threads
5-10 years?
we've only recently started having unironic halo nostalgia threads but they're not that common, and I could have sworn I've seen the first sprouts of cod mw nostalgia

>I must rage on an anonymous forum bc no one will fuck me

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Just build your own private server and play on it with your friends.
Very easy to set up and you can even download pre-made ones if you don't know how to compile.

Shut up, imbecile. Dungeon finder sucked the soul out of wow. Please commit suicide right now.

Not everyone is a lifeless nerd like you

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>complaining about dungeon finder
There's a reason blizzard still adds the dungeon entrances in the world instead of just doing everything through dungeon finder.
You can very easily decide to not use dungeon finder and no one is going to stop you.

that's been happening for at least a year probably longer
cod, halo, assfaggots etc it's all coming

So what? On retail there will also be people with more investment and gear than you. The whole point is just to play the content that you enjoy.

But MMO is about other players. Warmane has 12k people which is huge idk whats Blizzards server capacity but the main cities are just as if not more populated than in Classic.

this. it always bothers me how vanillacucks complain about things that they literally choose to do themselves.
like, nigger, just don't hit the dungeon finder key on your keyboard and you won't even notice it exists.

Warmane is dogshit. The server is a million years old so every time you try to anything in northrend you just get one shot by some slav in full ICC 25H gear. Not to mention the fake queue that happens every single day that YOU HAVE TO PAY TO SKIP.

wotlk is so fucking boring

I said please.

Wrath babies are the worst. Everything that has ruined current wow started in wrath.

Dumb BfA tranny

Dude just look at the Classic. Global chats are just full of LFG LFG LFG spam and searching people for your group is about asking people to join your group is comparable to being a telemarketer.

Also to add to this the server is a million years old yet half the quests are buggy as fuck or just flat out don't work.

Dungeon finder ruined everything

>mmos are everything

>Dungeon finder sucked the soul out of wow.
LFD came when the game lacked any soul already, most fags were acting like loot-bots even if they had to get the group going"in a more social manner" through chat
also as far as I can recall it was in-realm when it was first released

Warmane is also known to use bots to populate their servers and inflate queue times so people are more likely to give them money to skip queue.
Go online, in /who just hit refresh and whisper any of the lvl 80s on that list.
They either don't respond, or give you a generic hello message.
When you search for these "players" in the world, you can't find them no matter how much you search because they don't physically exist in the world.
I'd say warmane's most popular server has about 5k real players at best, rest is all bots.

>if you hate this watered down MMO which infected every other major MMO that came after it then you hate EVERYTHING
Pretty sad there is actually people with such poor taste.

>one of the best vidya stories of all time is ended in a fucking MMORPG
arthas deserved better

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Real home is mists

I used to play on the x1 server and it was pretty consistently full. With real players too. I can't say for the more popular x7 server. I actually had good times on the x1 server, i made some cool friends, got a pally to 80, raided a bit. Was good times. I'm playing classic now but i sometimes go back for fun.

Nice argument, does it come in heterosexual?

Sad triggeredcontrarians who never achieved anything higher than fucking their hand

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>retail wow players are physically unable to do anything but mash aoe keys and "cleave groups" now are the only groups

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As opposed to what?
Mashing the shadow bolt key?
The core gameplay is still just pressing 1 or 2 buttons until shit dies.
I agree with you on all other points that the game has gone downhill, but the actual gameplay has relatively improved.

Yeal well guess who also plays tricks to sell services? This site. I haven't been able to upload anything for two months from where I live. It always tells me that the area is blocked and it is trying to sell me a pass. Well these people seem to be existing in the world.
>i.imgur.com/dr3ykSa.jpg
>i.imgur.com/Axy1H3x.png (50 is cap for /who)
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>classicfags complain about the leveling in current wow being mostly just dungeons
>classic comes out
>everyone levels by doing mostly just dungeons
I fucking hate each and every one of you.

>WRATH

>Retard friendly gameplay with removal of cc, threat, mana management, precasting
>Classes have anti-fuckup mechanics, paladin tanks has 2 lives, everyone has good mobility and strong cds
>Classes completely overpowered just from a talents, full t3 vanilla class would lose to naked grey weapon wrath class since wrath talents gave guaranteed crits, procs, 30% haste and all other ridiculous crap
>Every healing class can AoE and single target heal just fine
>Welfare galore, every retard can buy raid(!!!) 25m(!!!) tier sets with badges from (((heroic))) dungeons
>It is possible to farm 15k++ gold from questing and 500+ gold from dailies everyday. Inflation throught the roof
>NAXX
>ToC
>Onyxia
>RS
>Difficulty bloat, heroics should have been how they were done in Ulduar, not a menu function
>Neutral cities which serve a center of xpack now a norm
>LFD
>Heirlooms

Wrath did many things right, but everything above eventually turned game into BfA and destroyed WoW. Wrath babies are no different from BfAfaggots and should be shot on sight.

it gets funnier
>classicfags complain about the leveling in current wow being mostly just dungeons AOE shitfest
>classic comes out
>everyone levels by doing mostly just dungeons AOE shitfest

is this the "new" thing to say... are we done with artificial?

>talents are too powerful
wow so you really liked all those 1% more dmg talents

Vanillaboys are unironically the biggest s.oy consumers on this board.
Their brain has been so fucked by years of watching porn everyday and getting those easy dopamine rushes that they literally cum in their pants when they see their shadow bolt go from dealing 50 damage to 52 damage.

>oh yes there is no problem with power creep
>players should totally be able to AoE pull and oneshot mobs
Dumb BfA tranny

Wrathbaby

dungeons are an extremely big waste of time and resources.

You're right, yet people still do them instead of questing which is faster.
Funny how the same crowd who spergs out about dungeons being the fastest way to level , will still continue to do dungeons even when they're not the fastest way to level.
Really makes you wonder what kind of delusional retards vanillafags really are.

BRING ON THE PANDAS!

Player power in Wrath Cata and MoP was stupidly high and you could do no wrong

>same crowd

Same for vanilla and BC though.
Hell, the world 1st rag kill was done by mostly lvl 56 people lmao.

Talents give you variety. In Classic a fire mage is just like oh you do 20% more dps with fire spells and you have this one extra spell: blastwave.

But in WOTLK a fire mage has many different tools that makes them more unique to play when compared to the other specs. You can become immune to interrupts, impact is now a proc so you can use it for control, blast wave has a pushback, molten fury and fiery payback reward you from playing on low health for more damage faster casts and disarm, dragons breath gives you strong control and doesnt break on dots, firestarter makes flamestrike actually useable, hot streak makes pyroblast actually usable, living bomb gives you aoe and has unique trait to it so that it instantly explodes on dispel. And after all this you still have 20 points left. You can get imp cs or icy veins. If you give up living bomb you can get pom from arcane. If you give up blast wave you can get ice barrier from frost. If you want to mix it up you can get shatter from frost and use freezes to give your fire spells 100% crits. FUCK IT WAS SO GOOD I DONT GET YOU VANILLAFAGS.

>ruins one of the best vidya character
na, fuck that expac

if you give up dragons breath you can get ice barrier*

>run yesterday an RFK
>4 guild members and 1 random
>random guy is a mage
>Corpsemaker drops
>mage needs on it
>thankfully he doesn't win it
>kick him out of the party
>try to find a 5th member to finish
>can't
>if only we had dugneon finder
>finish it none the less with 4 people
and retards like you keep seething about how bad df is and how good the old system was.

>Waaah my decisions have consequences

I can already see the "lol you must be a terrible person if you can't find a replacement because muh socialization in an mmo is a skill" replies

>someone else being a piece of shit ruins my experience in this game I pay $15 a month for, but I'm okay with that because I'm a hardcore gamer
epic

ofc you are zoomer, that's the exp when all the casual features got added.

If you need an argument for why the thing that killed player interaction on a game whose whole premise is player interaction within the world, you are a massive retard who would improve life on earth by unironically killing yourself

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Are you retarded. In MoP a tank could pull an entire instance, not only survive without a healer but also subsequently shred all the mobs with vengeance. That is in no way comparable to vanilla where pulling 3 mobs without a healer is a risk.
>they were 56
yeah and levels in vanilla, especially the final ones when youve picked up major talents already, aren't free powerspikes like in retail.

>>someone else being a piece of shit ruins my experience in this game
That was always the premise of MMO before nanny WoW

wrath baby

>classic
>rag got killed on the FIRST TRY

>all other expansions
>it took atleast a week of constant trial and error before the final raid boss got killed

The data don't lie my niggy.

Don't try to argue with these people. Vanilla people are like a religious cult. They don't care about reality. Everything they were crying about got disproven by the release of Classic. Yet they refuse to admit it.

mah nigga
wotlk had the best pvp and raiding experience ever

rest in peace gamerdistrict

LFD was a shit bandaid that hurt the integrity of the game whole to patch this minor issue.

A cross server LFG tool that (as the only instance of cross server available. No phasing or CRZ) pulled members from the entire game pool to the party leader's server was all Wrath era WoW needed to fix its grouping issues on small or otherwise antisocial/shitty community servers.

Seems like you posted the wrong one.

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Whenever I read a vanillafag post I automatically start reading it with an indian accent.

>it hurt the integrity of the game
What integrity? Fucking LFG was always about spamming the trade chat. DF just fixed the issues with it.

up untill icc released

>and raiding experience ever
What? The raiding was pretty horrible for a long time, mainly because it relied on rehashing naxx as the main thing for so long.

that's pretty based

No it's not retard. There's a whole server that's 1x no p2w items at all. If you play on the shit server you get a shit experience surprise surprise. They use that server to fund the good one

>b-b-but it was about community and being social!
Because saying "LFG/LFM X" is so social, and having to abandon a run because someone had to leave is totally worth that meaningful social interaction :)
Oh and waiting for your guy to fly to your distant instance is so fun as opposed to summoning with meeting stones.

I'm a big vanilla supporter and I can't stand the current state of retail, but I will concede that one of the greatest things WotlK added was introduce the Glyph system into the game.

I thought it was a pretty fun change.

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Well considering that the game has been exploited to the maximum its really up to you how much an idiot you are. People complain about dungeons why they fail to realize in vanilla dungeons serve no purpose other than break the mobgrinding cycle which is in fact the best way to gain exp. Dunno why people shit on wrath so many times, when this whole dungeon system was never good to begin with, at least wrath make them as fast as humanly possible.

it's because 1.12 is fucking shit everybody knew 1.12 was the wrong patch but private server nigger forced the le 1.12 is the best patch you don't even need cc in 1.12 dungeons.

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>all these people complaining about dungeon finder ruining the game
>resorting to level silently through dungeons in Classic spamming chat with lfg/lfm for hours before going
>only things heard inside are "hi", "any quests to share", "thanks bye" and occasional "wait oom"
meanwhile
>none of relevant content is done through dungeon finder or any queue system
>people actually discussing how they will approach content if necessary
>praising good plays when they see it

"need" for CC only appeared in TBC heroics, nobody cared about that before and after (exept Cata heroics for some time)

Yea Forums (and late 90s-2000s internet in general) was a giant Valve and Quake circlejerk and it was cringey as fuck.

bullshit maybe read how much 1.12 nerfed the game before you talk and cc was only used in heroics in the beginning of TBC. TBC remake would be on sunwell patch and make everything easy.

CC in TBC heroics were kinda hard needed early on for sure because people were a bit undergeared.

wasnt this like the case with every expac? I remember Cata dungeons being really hard because people had no gear. I remember warlock cc'd 3 mobs at once. Banish, succubus and fear with a glyph.

Dungeon finder is getting shit on while in reality people changed so did the internet culture. This community sense is simply not in classic. People complain nonstop that "something is missing from classic." Well it is the community, because times simply changed, you are in 2019 with a pozzed internet where you can't say the poopoo word, and you don't even need any brain activity, just look up a wiki. Everyone is bored this shit, and its only the start of september.
The dungeon finder in the first place can be used as a multitask tool, but this REEE LFG DESTROYED THE COMMUNITY is simply false. Its straight up ignoring the fact that 10+ years gone by and a lot of things changed in the world since. Classic just claims this too: people don't talk to each other despite no lfg, they don't ask for tips etc. I can clearly remember when there was a Wotlk server which said they'll disable the LFG as a whole, because it'll make a better game. Guess what, in a month people left the server.

Vanilla sucks, TBC is the real home... no wait, TBC sucks, Wrath is the REAL home... m-maybe it's Cata...

nope not in mop, wod, legion and bfa wotlk you could aoe spam from the start.

Pandaria is the real home or maybe Warlords...

praise brother

WotLK was top tier
>talents
>glyphs
>stats matter
The only thing that would make it even better would be adding MoP's reforge too

YOU
THINK
YOU
DO

DO
YOU
THINK
YOU

Adding MoP talents would be better desu

t. warlock

Weren't warlocks utter shit in MoP? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, it's been a while

Honestly if you played a DK during wotlk you played the apex of what this game can offer.

Don’t forget about dungeon finder

I'm legitimately worried about WoW Classic, because I'm having the time of my life and I want it to stay that way, but it won't if they re-release TBC and WotLK the way they came out. TBC was the spark, WotLK was the fuel. Those two expansions combined brought about the end of WoW being good.

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Meanwhile with dungeon finder
>Dungeon is hard
>randoms are too stupid to CC/interrupt
>Billy the retard keeps pulling extra packs

>Dungeon is easy
>tank solo's the entire dungeon
>The gear is trash because you're already yoloing your way through it so whats the fucking point?

Also
>If dungeon is hard
>Tank quits after first wipe
>You have to wait 60 minutes for a new tank
>Qutting tank will get instant queue after his 30 minute debuff and get a completely new group

It's funny because the guy wasn't asking about vanilla, but vanillatards derailed it.

MoP warlock was the best lock

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he was talking about vanilla you absolute seething retard

Meanwhile in Classic
>dungeon is even easier
>people STILL can't play properly or are rude faggots
>kick them
>have to exit the dungeon (by walking all the way back)
>have to search for a replacement (outside, and someone has to go to the main cities too if you can't find anyone)
>can't find replacement and have to try to finish the dungeon in 4 or just quit
>you do it but with great difficulty because it's a shit tank&spank, pure artificial difficulty made by gear and nothing else
>1 hour long easy dungeon for some shit loot
>completed 2 quests, +10% exp for the next level
Great game, buddy. Dungeon Finder is the best thing that came to WoW, and not the reason it died, you stupid faggots.

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Literally the only time we wipe is when the tank pulls to many mobs and I run out of mana. I mean isn't that awesome. The only thing stopping you from playing is a shitty mechanic.

cope you retail cuck

>plays and pays the WoW version for cucks
>call others cucks
Thanks for founding the next expansion by the way! ;) And go grind 20 mobs for your delicious 1% exp!

>I WANT CLASSES TO BE WEAK AND USELESS
I swear you classic fags are retarded.

seeth how empty is your retail server?

zoomer home

Not very much, and even if it was I'd still find people to play thanks to cross server technology, while your shit classic server will die in one month and you assblasted 40 years old faggots wont ever accept anything like that on your shit version of the game. You'll end up being alone.
Oh, but nevermind, enjoy the world pvp! It's fantastic ganking an underleveled and geared guy that you camped near the wind rider with 10 people :)

Based and Wrathpilled. I am loving current classic but I can't wait for Wrath of the Lich King Classic. I want the same loving recreation of the expac. I want to raid ICC 10 again at level and fuck me an Argent Confessor Paletress. She is hotter than Whitemane ever thought about being.

Glyphs were ass.

NOOO THAT COLDDOWN REDUCTION THAT ABLITY IS ASS!!!!! NO 30% MANA OFF THE BUFF IS NONESENSE!!!!

>tfw reaching Titan's Grasp on your fury warrior for the first time
Loved that shit

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>but they're not that common,
yes they are

I don't remember the Draenei on this cover.

>horde paladins
>alliance shaman

It's not home. Or good.

>g-glyphs were ass

Yeah no, it was one of the last tries of Blizz to actually ADD things to WoW. After that they kept taking away "ass" things for several expansions and we got BfA as a results, the expansion so polished and streamlined that nobody wants to play it.

But it's not first try on rag. They've all been playing vanilla on pservers for 10+ years.

Fuck you. They were expensive as fuck.

Exactly... of all the bullshit nostalgiafags whine about I never understood LFD. With flying you were already pretty much "teleporting" to the dungeon anyway basically. The heroics were faceroll shit by then with out without pugging. Group members were always and still are (even in classic) ranging from rude e-sport reject super cereals to mouth breathing retards, Blizzard has always had one of the most putrid fanbases before WoW was even a thing. The social aspect was always a complete joke and forcing point to interact at gunpoint doesn't automatically make things better or your group mates (or you) any less retarded.

yeah and i am playing it and im not paying $15 a month to have the privilege of playing a game i already bought

cant wait for this to die and people relize how bad everything was pre wrath. such a waste of time and resources for loser millennial's who have big time nostalgia glasses who are miserable "adults"

I just wish for the next gen mmo. This boar testicle collecting is getting tiresome.

>cant find a dps
get the fuck out of here. no one believes you

>15 years later we're still waiting for THE wow killer
>it's just Actiblizzard killing their games for a quick profit

I'm tired of the WoW formula. All MMOs are just WoW in a different seasoning. I'm tired of people spouting this shitty meme that WoW has to be THE mmo.

Other things have been tried and mostly failed, only the WoW formula seems to have staying power. And we're not getting away from it because you want to keep people playing for a long time so they pay a lot of monthly subs.
If you're looking for proper rpgs with good stories and character building you have to play a single player game. If you're looking for decent pvp there are mobas galore or even csgo depending on the degree of your competitive autism

Wrath was objectively the peak as far as combat and talent systems go.

That was Pandaria.

The lack of Death Knights in Classic hurts me.

hello newfriend

dude wrath! lets run icc a billion times because every raid before it is completely fucking useless! awesome!!!!

>the newest content has the best loot
no way my dude

yes, but the newest content also introduces dungeons that give you loot better than any of the previous raids, making half of the end-game pointless. only thing to do is run icc again and again. the reason why i like Vanilla end game is because every raid is important in a way. WotLK started the trend of letting everyone skip over to the newest content.

Ulduar is completely pointless after 3.2. There's no reason to run it. You're better off spamming heroics for badges. Same thing in 3.3.

I just want a decent pve moba, why has nobody done it by now?

man those seems like fun talents
Like all of em.

thanks for paying for classic+
retailnigger

well I do believe if WoW finally died devs would realize maybe its time to change for better. Now classic came out and when we were SO FUCKING CLOSE to end this cycle, because BfA is a massive failure and most people realized WoW is shit, so is blizzard as a company. It was the prime time to finally teach players and devs alike: there is more than collecting bear asses and the WoW formula established by a jew Jeff, but then comes classic.
Holy fuck when it was announced I just massaged my forehead because I knew all hope left again and everyone trusts blizzard again. The last shot is classic being a failure, if this doesn't happen we will never advance.

>finish it
>still asshurt

The middle one reminds me of the Scorch talent in Cata. It would allow mages to channel Scorch while running. It felt so cool and special in those times.

>Run gnomeregan
>Tell hunter to dismiss pet before jumping down
>He just stands there like an idiot for 30 seconds
>Multiple people tell him to dismiss pet
>"hurrr give me a reason durrr"
>Explain we're jumping
>"hurrr don't assume things durrr"
>Keeps being a massive spastic
>Kick him
>Finish the dungeon with 4 people no problem and at a decent pace
Woah I really feel the need to be a little bitch and whine about not having an automated replacement search function!

>Pretending to be retarded
Why? I mean you can't honestly be as dumb as you're pretending to be here, so what are you playing at?

every time i did something in a group there was some form of interaction between the players
and most of the time im the one cracking cringy jokes that people in the group comment on and it gets the talk going
just shows that fucking zoomer autists here cant handle social interactions

How many ff14 trannies are in this thread right now I wonder?

>He thinks ff14 people give a shit about classic
>He thinks it's not just the same old retail faggots sperging out
Maybe sober up before posting buddy, you're being kind of retarded right now.

Hey, uh, as someone that played retail a ton, can you tell me what there is to do other than weekly/daily grinds as a returning player? Seems I just have to grind my iLevel back up and then....grind more? Not sure. Not really interested in raiding and I've never done mythic, but I'm very interested in that, haven't even got my first keystone yet.

it is an MMO. If you don't want to grind try another genre.

Ah, the baseline response. I'm supposed to just accept that I have to grind just so I can grind even harder? Fuck off, lol.
Why wouldn't I play project gorgon instead.

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I'm playing both. Level 59 in Classic right now.

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Stfu the community has been great and that’s how I know you’ve never played. The best thing about classic right now is all the people helping and talking and grouping up in the world. Go seethe on retail.