It gets a lot of hate, but has anyone else been really satisfied with the pass so far? If they keep up with this pace, the fifth one will be fucking awesome.
It gets a lot of hate, but has anyone else been really satisfied with the pass so far? If they keep up with this pace...
I love it, reaching out into a lot of corners of video games and they've all been great picks
other than dragon quest hero i think its got some pretty fun choices
i hope for somebody like dante to get in next
I'm fine with it. I only liked Banjo and Terry personally, but DQ deserves it's spot and Joker is okay I guess. Would've preferred Yu Ziodynecock instead
I can only say "this character isn't for me" so many times before I lose interest.
I'm very happy with Joker and Banjo, and Hero and Terry are alright.
The only one I didnt think fit was joker cause he didnt have a big videogame history like the other 3. Even Banjo had 2 64 games and a cult following for years. And atleast terry reps fatal fury and kof. Persona5 is recent, only on ps4 and only reps P5, not much for the others games let alone SMT.
I've been satisfied since August last year 3bh
I think Persona as a franchise has a large enough history since even if you ignore its connection to SMT, the first Persona game came out in 1996. But even music-wise they only represented 3, 4, and 5 so it's kind of awkward. That said Joker is cool as fuck and has an awesome aesthetic with the mask and the long coat so I can't say I'm too bothered.
I already got banjo so the last character could be blue mario from mario tennis 64 and I wouldnt give a shit
Terry took me by complete surprise, it was like my request was personally being answered. It's too bad the leak ruined the hype for me and I never truly got to celebrate his inclusion.
The more I think about it though, Terry really did belong in Smash due to how Sakurai came up with the idea of the game in the first place.
Terry looks like boomer wojak in that picture.
All I wanted was Isaac but I'll never get that but yeah the pass has been fine so far.
Same, I've been hyped before each reveal but have no interest in paying for any of these characters
>Yu Ziodynecock
>not Door kun
We don't know how insane Sakurai is going to get. He might start breaking rules and turning ATs into fighters within the same game. I don't expect it, but anything's possible. Sadly the only reason I want Isaac is because he could potentially have a Felix echo, but that is even more of a pipe dream.
The fifth character will undeniably be one of the following
>Ryu hayabusa for the sheet surprise factor much like joker last year and Terry if he had been kept under wraps
>Doomslayer for the western audience at the game awards, plus doom eternal will obviously be present at the game awards
>Dragonborn for the same reason as doom but is much more popular in general and Bethesda themselves would probably want that character to shill elder scrolls even more, japs also actually like the series unlike doom
>Geno for the fans and west much like banjo (he's the least likely however)
Assuming they're making a second fighter bundle, I hope the final reveal of the first pack is something that would completely blow peoples' minds.
I think persona is a large franchise too, I never played P5 but I know its popular and was a goty nomination. Im just saying Joker didnt do a good job representing that franchise in general. And to be honest I dont think sakurai could have with just one character from one persona game .I acknowledge thats its unfair comparison considering Terry and Banjo had the opportunity to be in more games, but thats just how it is. But he's in the game anyway so whatever.
>Geno
GIVE UP
Rtu looks sad to be surrounded by all thos losers
actually wait Joker has the Persona so I guess that counts as repping persona in general? All the Hero's have a menu select. I dunno I just think Jack Frost would've been a better rep. Its like trying rep FE with only Corrin.
I’m extremely happy with these picks so far. I don’t even care for DQ or Banjo but they’re top-tier picks, I appreciate the attention Persona 5 is getting, and MOTHERFUCKING Terry. For SNK I’d have preferred Metal Slug but I understand, and like Terry anyway.
It really is a good selection so far, instead of a bunch of weak-ass shit like D-list Kirby reps
>it gets a lot of hate
wut
I've seen most people being pretty satisfied with the characters
I thought for sure Joker would utilize different Personas in his moveset instead of just being “now you’re buffed with Arsene”, including Jack Frost for an attack. It would have brought in a few known demons/Personas from the franchise
i'm a quintessential zoomer at a ripe 19 years old and the pass has been Good. no characters that i personally have much nostalgia for or interest in, but i can see why they were chosen. it's crazy to me Hero wasn't added to the game sooner.
Joker's a bit of an odd pick, i think. feels like he doesn't quite carry the same "legacy" as the other 3 so far. but that just gives me hope that a character doesn't need to have such a great legacy to be chosen, so Amaterasu can make it.
the sans costume is amazing. i have hope for Kris after the fighter's pass.
>Terry really did belong in Smash due to how Sakurai came up with the idea of the game in the first place.
nani?
>Kris
Who?
Apparently the protagonist of Deltarune.
Love it, I got dream picks like Banjo and Terry and it sold me on characters I initially wouldn't have been a fan of like Joker and Hero. No matter who the last character in the pass is I'm sure I'll enjoy it
Jacket pls
I would have rather got my first party characters like botw champions or ARMS fighter. The only char I wish didn’t get in is joker, terry is literally who for me but so were marth, roy, g&w, etc. Joker just doesn’t belong
Oh
I think people are mostly salty over Terry, but he's only a surprising choice if you haven't into fighters ever. I'm now personally hoping for a Tekken rep eventually. Heihachi would be dope.
It's actually kind of fucking absurd that Joker just uses Arsene and that's it, because it's the default Persona. You NEVER stick with the default Persona for very long in Persona games, you immediately start fusing and getting more powerful ones. It shows a pretty significant misunderstanding of the Persona franchise. Then again this is also the guy who thought the tutorial stage is the best possible stage choice for Banjo-Kazooie. (To be fair, he did make it look really good visually, and the spinning is a cool idea for a stage.)
Ryu feels like a very high possibility. Geno I really do feel like they’d set aside to not be a part of the pack, partly because Square would want that sweet money themselves, and because too many average people would be like “wtf?” The others I could see most likely are Kiryu, another Namco Rep (Dig Dug/Soul Calibur/Tekken), or a Resident Evil character.
I’m really truly holding out hope for Travis Touchdown though.
A lot of well rounded picks, a little something for everyone really. I like the fact that it's more crossover characters as well.
All of the fighters are incredibly well made. Overall my fav is Terry though.
Reimu would be the cherry on top for me, but I'm happy with whoever.
Aside from Joker, yeah.
It’s been fantastic for me. Joker, Hero, and Banjo & Kazooie all would have been on my dream pass for the game, so I’m super happy the three of them led the first part of the DLC. I’m definitely satisfied with Terry Bogard as well. SNK deserves the spot, and Terry is a fun and memorable character.
>Geno I really do feel like they’d set aside to not be a part of the pack, partly because Square would want that sweet money themselves, and because too many average people would be like “wtf?”
As if they didn't have that reaction to Terry who is part of the pack.
The really weird thing about Joker's inclusion is that it's devoid of any Shin Megami Tensei references. Even the other demons were left out. Even fucking Jack Frost, the closest thing SMT has to an equivalent of Pikachu, was left out. They didn't even let you put his hat on a Mii Fighter. It's pretty damn huge and has been around for a long time, so the fact that the Persona content is devoid of even the smallest reference to SMT boggles the mind.
I don't play Persona, but Arsene is THE Phantom Thief, so I would think it suits the character. He should probably have more, though.
>Joker's a bit of an odd pick, i think. feels like he doesn't quite carry the same "legacy" as the other 3 so far
I think that’s most peoples hangup. While I agree with the sentiment, I think Persona 5 has quickly become a landmark title in the series, and the style and design of the game (and Joker) is very well executed and iconic, standing out among the others in Smash. If they were going to give SMT/Persona some love, I think Joker was a good pick.
Well, I'm satisfied personally, but their approach to the pass kinda guarantees a lot of people won't be. Each characters seems like it's intended to appeal to a totally different audience, so inevitably you wind up with people who belong to certain audiences saying the other characters are bad, or that they weren't requested, etc. The overlap between people who wanted Banjo and Terry is probably pretty small, for example.
Speaking as someone who only really has personal attachment to Banjo, I really love that they're branching out so much. I've learned a lot about Dragon Quest and Fatal Fury because of the fighter's pass. Hopefully character #5 brings some cool history too.
Especially since SMT actually started on Nintendo systems. It is the weirdest fucking rep, they go out of their way to get an SMT-related character and yet they focus exclusively on Sony-related stuff. Between this and "please go play Banjo on Xbox" I'm starting to wonder if Sakurai makes his choices specifically to troll Nintendo.
Yeah but we’re talking about putting in the face of SNK, a legacy company. While I understand why Geno is popular and would make for an interesting fighter, to anyone that isn’t a diehard *Smash* fan, they’d be like why was this side dude chosen? It’s not impossible, I just think they’d separate him from the pass to prevent any disappointment from people who bought the pass being stuck with this relatively niche/obscure request.
So, whats this about 16 character slots in the game's data? Would that include characters released now?
Don’t think anything of it. Sakurai will add as many as he feels like. I think it was just that the game data had to begin with enough slots for 100 characters
The games bloated hopefully next time they focus on making a good game
Hopefully with some actually decent game modes.
Aesthetically it's certainly fitting, so I kind of get it, but it's kind of like, I dunno, if all the Pokemon were only in their unevolved forms, or if Link didn't have any weapons besides his sword because he can only use what you get at the start of the game.
Why the fuck haven’t they capitalized on the easy money that new Echo fighters would bring??
>Protoman
>Metal Sonic
>Big Boss
>Funky Kong
>Impa
Or additional character costumes.
While I don't really care about Joker, Terry or Hero, I am super happy with Banjo and so far I'd say that the fighters pass has been good so far.
doomguy would make it even better, but that's just my opinion
If I had to take a guess, we're getting two or three more characters after the Pass. Four if we're lucky.
Roy's game was notoriously unpopular and still hasn't even been officially localized after all these years, he's basically the Corrin of Melee and the only reason he's still in the game is because Melee was so insanely popular that every single character in it achieved some sort of legendary status in the Smash fanbase.
I really feel like the grand finale fighter is gonna be Geno. I wish it wasn't because I think Geno's support is baffling and stupid, but given the character's status in the Smash community I can't really think of a better pick to end on if the goal is to please diehard rosterfags. There are no never evers left who even remotely approach his popularity. Why, I have no idea. But I'd prepare for disappointment if you're not a Genofag.
Honestly with how good the roster already is I don't care who gets in. Best of luck to you guys.
That would be kind of lame though if we had to wait multiple years just to be able to play Geno in this game, if they're going to add him I'd sure prefer it to be sooner rather than later.
Big Boss would be kind of redundant because Snake has a weird design in this game with a beard which he actually doesn't have in MGS1, so Snake already looks more like Big Boss than he does Snake. And yes, I know that he's supposed to look like Big Boss but you know what I mean.
My best guess is that Sakurai left out SMT because it's pretty fucking dark and not in a fun way like Bayonetta, but P5's first boss is a rapist gym teacher and that still doesn't explain why he left out Jack Frost, who looks like a random encounter from a more standard JRPG.
Be honest with me bros. Just give me a straight answer. I've been holding out hope for so long, I don't know if I can go on. I need to know if it's worth it. If I can believe.
Does it have a chance?
No, no Nintendo characters
No.
I know I was just quickly jotting some examples
Now that I know there's more space for fighters than I thought, I wouldn't mind Heihachi, but I can't get over how dumb his hair is. Who thought Dr. Wily hair was a good idea in a game with a serious art style?
I feel this way too. Could just be the final Pass fighter though, considering he’s 3rd party. If it’s any consolation he’d probably have a really cool moveset involving timed hits (hope you don’t have lag)
I want more diversity.
Yes, the 16 slots were discovered before any of the DLC. So you remove Piranha Plant and the 5 FP characters, that's 10 more characters. Seems like a pretty high number but I could plausibly see Smash DLC lasting for two more years.
>terry
good pick
>hero and banjo
meh, ok
>joker
no
Im gonna be that weird guy and say I dont think Dante would be a good character. Going from bayonetta's game to playing her in smash, it feels gimped and boring. Her game is so over the top and combo heavy playing her in smash just doesnt have the same charm. I dont think they would be able to properly do Dante justice trying to cram all his movement options and weapons into a smash moveset.
If Dante does get in the game I'm worried he'll just be another generic sword user like the FE guys shulk and cloud. Atleast Hero has menu select and cloud has limit break but i'm not sure what gimmick Dante would have. Maybe weapon switching but I feel like that would give him an unfair advantage.
I like to play Joker with the red costume and pretend I am playing Dante.
Agreed travisbro, with nmh 3 on the horizon I feel he has a really good chance. The series has been so reliant on Nintendo he's basically first party plus suda wants him in. When they announced more dlc I instantly thought of Travis.
Joker was a real dud and sideways move (not bad just such a fad choice) but otherwise it's been amazing. I hope #5 is Hayabusa
I like all four characters.
I had an idea today, that in Travis' trailer he should fight Shulk, since both of them have a laser sword. I hope they do it.
I'm satisfied. My problem is that at this point I want characters that are either too obscure (Marina Liteyears) have their slot filled by another in the franchise (Megaman X) or are never-evers (Geno).
I wish the announcements were out-of-nowhere surprises like Joker was. After Joker it felt like any industry event could have a Smash reveal, like the entire industry was waiting on their card. Now it's like, just wait for the next direct.
I hope it doesn't get leaked, but this Vergeben fucker seems to have a knack for managing to spoil every single reveal the exact day before it happens.
I was thinking style switching
kinda related I've been seeing a bunch of fan movesets that just give him stinger as a dash attack and that just doesn't sit right with me, I feel it should be that running lashing thing agni and rudra do
As a black I must say, please fuck off.
>Vergeben
More like VirginBen amirite? hahaha
Yeah I'm betting on literally none of these characters. If you think you can actually predict what it'll be, you're and egomaniacal retard.
It feels like a very similar trajectory to Bayonetta at the time
>shulk
>generic
Well I'm actually glad I don't have to obsessively watch every single event in the hopes of getting Smash news, otherwise the first I hear of the news is seeing it in an article which isn't as fun as seeing a trailer. With directs, even if you know announcement is coming, at least you can watch it and find out the news from the direct instead of some article.
I've wanted Banjo forever and find him and Hero really fun to play. Terry could be interesting to play but I have no attachment, and Joker isn't for me but I guess he's a cool addition? Feels like a popular enough franchise to be deserving of the spot either way.
Smash was pretty much thought up after Sakurai played some King of Fighters and kicked the snot out of a couple who weren't very good at the game and were just playing for fun. He felt bad and decided to make a fighter that's easier to pick up.
I am. I adore Banjo and Kazooie so much that I am actively celebrating the rest and learning about their series too.
Terry will be good, people whine that he's similar to Ken but his moves are much funner than slow moving energy ball, uppercut, and slow moving spin kick. He should be faster and more satisfying to use.
It would definitely be self referential. Possibly be related to the death drive pulling him into smash
Hero is easily the most fun to play out of all of them and I thought he would be the worst.
Do you guys think it'll still be third party after this pass? Something about Sakurai words suggests that it'll be like that but if it isn't then Rex is literally first in line.
I love them all personally. Joker's probably my favorite as a fighter even though he doesn't do a good job of representing Atlus or even any Persona outside of 5.
5th character is going to be the smash invitational letter itself.
I was actually thinking about that, it would be hilarious. You think you're going to get a new character and then it zooms in on the letter and I can't come up with a suitably clever tagline.
I'm really satisfied but Joker was by far the weakest addition, just 'cause he had missed potential imo. A lot of his moves are from other fighters and he should've have Personas other than Arsene.
The only character I desperately want is Phoenix Wright, so everything else is cool to me unless it's some lame shit like Tracer.
Reveal: I was very excited for Joker.
Trailer: When I saw how he played, I was confused by a lot of things.
Release: When he came out, I started hating him very quickly. I really just didn't know how to use his projectiles at all, they just felt too slow, but I would always lose to him.
Reveal: No reaction at all for me with Hero.
Trailer: True horror and fear, I mean, if Ganondorf is a wolf, with only needing two or three mistakes to kill you, Hero is a outright lion, need one or two mistakes to kill you. He still feels very broken to me, and always will.
Release: I lost to each and every Hero I fought online, then again I don't use a high tier character anyways so I expected as much.
Reveal: I was excited as fuck to see Banjo come to Smash.
Trailer: I had to stop myself from turning off the video when he stated that the feathers only come back after you die. I am bad, I am a bad player, that entirely goes against my playstyle, because I am a spammy piece of shit.
Release: Haven't really tried him out yet, but from watching a lot of videos I am actually starting to get excited for him again.
Reveal: I honestly have never played King of Fighters, or Fatal Fury, but I am a sucker for niche fighting games, so I am excited to play as Terry Bogard. Sorry if calling those series niche is a insult, I didn't mean it to be. My favorite fighting games are Brutal Paws of Fury, and Primal Rage.
Also a lot of mechanics in Smash were taken from KoF too like rolls, spot dodges, and hops. The letters being sent to fighters to invite them to the game might also be a reference too but who knows. What I do know is Sakurai liked his fightan games.
Same. He’s a blast and makes a lot of matches unpredictable
>I had to stop myself from turning off the video when he stated that the feathers only come back after you die.
Look, I know you said you're bad, but trust me, you don't want this. If Banjo's feathers restored over time his optimal playstyle would involve playing super lame and camping out as much as possible while he waits for his gauge to refill. He would be unfun to play and fight against, and he would be hated by the competitive community. It would be awful.
Yep, bought the whole pass and have played all their games before also. Pretty much fine with any character
only characters I'd say Im more crazy for at this point is Crash, Klonoa, Sora, Dante and Doomguy
I know it would never happen but I'd love to see Sakurai enter a supermajor playing Terry like Harada does with Tekken. We've never really gotten a handle on how good he is with a competitive ruleset, every time he demonstrates the game it's with items enabled or on a janky stage.
I don't have any opinion on Terry Bogard, only because I literally have never heard of him or the game series he's in until this very day. No joking.
Was hyped for banjos reveal but he looks very boring and vanilla. Terry looks fun but knowing how much sakurai hates fighting game characters he's gonna be slow and heavy. Persona 5 guy seems kind of tacky. I don't have dq guy but yet another anime swordsman when there is almost a fifth of the roster consisting of this similar fucking moveset is kind of gay most of ultimates newcomers are pretty gay either in design or by their moveset with few exceptions.
Smash Letter
>Denies your request!
>Has bad news!
Wonderwing is incredibly punishable, you don't want to spam it anyway because a decent player will block it and then kick your shit in. It's only to be used for recovery or when you are certain it will hit. His B and down B are plenty spammable if that's what you're into.
Also, you should try KoF or Fatal Fury while you're waiting for Terry, they are very fun and they even have ports on Switch.
Apparently he couldn't beat some random Indie developer, but then again Toby might have a secretly high Smash power level too. He seems autistic enough to have one.
>knowing how much sakurai hates fighting game characters
The man literally played competitive KoF and Street Fighter in arcades. There's proof in this thread. Sakurai is a total fighting game geek.
Sakurai also mentioned that they were playing random characters. So that begs the question of who he even mains.
Thanks, I will do that.
Holy shit, Sakurai is pure as fuck
>pure as fuck
>ends up making smash a worse game
Was it worth it?
>Joker
Never played persona, currently hate him
>Hero
I fucking Love Dragon quest, I fucking hate this character.
>Banjo-Kazooie
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MY FUCKING MOST WANTED IS FINALLY IN!!!!
>Terry Bogard
Never played FF or KoF, but I've got a friend who fucking loves FF and KoF and was excited as hell to see him.
what the fuck are you going on about?
Explain by "worse"
In the end Smash recovered into a truly great game with Ultimate so in the end, yes it was worth it.
Every game after melee is trash
>into a truly great game
It's really not
take a shower
Is that all you have to say user?
put on some deodorant
ooooooh I get it, its okay I understand.
Why do you guys always resort to this is it because you guys realize your game is an shit and there nothing else you can say about it?
So I have been holding off on World of Light because I was waiting for a DLC character I like. Now that Banjo is out I guess I'd better get started. I hear that you unlock menu music once you beat it, but is it true that you can use any music in the Smash Bros category? So I could use the Melee Targets music as the menu music?
Something to keep in mind is that Smash is as much an advertisement for upcoming or current games as it is a celebration of gaming's history. Joker is in because of the former; Banjo, Hero, and Terry because of the latter.
I think a lot of people are angry because they feel SMT/Persona's representation in Smash is being tainted with a modern pick like Joker instead of an older, more iconic character.
You anons ready?
It's pretty weird that they did an advertisement pick only to turn around and have the next three be historical picks. I wonder if the last one will be an advertisement to offset it or if they're done with that. It's just such a weird pass in general, there's no cohesive theme. Two JRPG characters, a platformer character, and a fighting game character, and none of them are aesthetically similar. At this rate the last one will be a rhythm game character just to really drive the weirdness home.
> I had to stop myself from turning off the video when he stated that the feathers only come back after you die
It makes playing as him more strategic. You have to learn when to use your wonderwing and when to save it for each stock. That teaches you the right timing, which is good because it's powerful as fuck if you land the hit. If you got good enough to hit more often than not, then having the feathers recharge would be op as fuck.
I got Banjo and Undertale in a single day, and even Terry looks cool. The rest doesn't change that for me, no matter how annoying Joker or Hero get.
Is their name really Akira Howard? That is a weird-ass name. Do they let you change it?
This is way too good of a buisness decision for nintendo to do, I heavily doubt it.
They have no name, at least the gender you pick I think, but the other sibling has that name in the story.
>5ch leak
Man, I almost forgot about that.
Oh, it does it like that? Interesting. I know very little about that game.
I agree about the Personas, but Spiral Mountain is undoubtedly the most-iconic level from Banjo so of course Sakurai would use it.
If it's not that, then maybe just another 3 after Pack #5 to fill up the fighter menu evenly.
3 would make sense, but how many more would they need to add beyond that in order to have more but still have a perfect square? Just out of curiosity.
i like banjo and terry, hero's good too. don't care for joker or plant, though.
there's a Persona 1 track and it's arguably the best one
While it's true that song originated in Persona 1, it's also in every Persona game so it's hard to feel like it's there to represent P1.
It's inevitable
Overall I'm happy with the current results. If there's one I could change, that'd be joker because i really don't like the persona series, but I still think it's fair enough that they're in.
I like all of them, Joker seemed a little wonky but if you look at it as repping SMT instead of just P5 it's a good pick.
I just hope 5 won't be the FE3H protag, that'd be lame af.
I doubt they'd put that in the pass, it seems like prime "additional fighter after the pass" material. Remember that the pass was finalized in 2018 and Three Houses didn't come out until way after that.
Outside of Hero, who's kinda boring and expected, I like the diversity of characters we got. When they first announced the pass, my predictions, not wants, was something like this:
- Rex and Pyra
- Springman
- Hat Goomba
- FE rep
- Dragon Quest man
I'm absolutely thankful we didn't get most of that trash. Like, holy fuck, we got Banjo and fucking Terry Bogard? If he always listened to the majority, we would've never got these insane picks. If the 5th is someone like Dante or Smash Bandicunt, I'm going to be so erect.
>If he always listened to the majority, we would've never got these insane picks.
I mean, the majority was specifically clamoring for Banjo. It's clear he's listening to fan requests to some degree. Perhaps Terry Bogard is highly requested in Japan?
Sans is cool, but what about Asriel?
me as the goat
No
Is there proof that this tweet exists?
Good to see Shovel Knight is there to help Asriel clear up that misunderstanding, he truly is a helpful chap.
actually a good pick
God im fucking glad that nigger faggot etika is dead.
He would've screeched for hours, i hope sonicfox follows the same fate
It's a solid set of characters that have made a lot of people happy. I don't really like any of them in terms of gameplay and wasn't excited for them, but they're fun to play against. I hope for one I'm excited about, but it is nice to see many people's never evers get in. On a more petty note, one of my friends had been 3 for 3 and now only likes 3 of 4. Thanks for ruining his smug streak, based Terry. He's gotten enough.
I fucking love Persona 5 and never saw Joker coming, pleasantly surprised.
Didn't really care for Hero, but his move set is really fucking fun.
Banjo & Kazooie were my most wanted (after Simon got in and Isaac got banished).
Terry is cool in my book, and I like how Sakurai handled Ryu/Ken, so I think Terry will play well, looking forward to him.
>I fucking love Persona 5 and never saw Joker coming
I guess you could say you BEEN A LITTLE WHILE BUT I'M STILL BATTLING
>Every game after melee is trash
Buy deoderant
I don't really know how anyone can not like Terry. Just seems like salt from people who were expecting someone else, nothing about the character himself.
I'd like to see more characters from other fighting games;
Jin from Tekken.
Sub Zero from Mortal Kombat
Siegfried from Soul Calibur
>nothing but weebshit.
Fuck off Nintendo. I wanted Sora or something as interesting.
This is going to be interesting watching you try to explain how Sora is not "weebshit."
I don't know either. I can't say I'm excited for Terry but I'd like to see more of what his moveset is. There could definitely be worse dlc fighters. I think since my friend had liked, no, loved the first three dlc fighters, he was hoping for all five to lord over the rest of us or something. He can be that sort of person sometimes. Despite being excited for all those fighters and always saying he will main them, he hasn't picked any up. I don't get it. But I do know that I am grateful to Terry and that people need to lower their expectations and be happy we are getting a solid smash game.
It gets a 3/4 for now. 4/5 if Ryu Hayabusa.
Maybe.
Same. I like the Mementos stage but I hardly ever use Joker.
I'd like to know how そら is interesting to anyone.
There's no one on the pass that I personally want so far, but I don't hate what they've given us. I'm looking forward to Terry. He looks like he'd have a cool moveset and fighting game characters in Smash are based.
You literally cannot even play as Pyra in her game, the idea that Nintendo would want her specifically is absurd and if you're the one who made this image you are a moron.
Joker was 100% worth it because it resulted in one of my favorite battle themes of all time, Mass Destruction, being added to Smash.
Seething autismo.
>works with color theory
Oh shit
Top row is pretty great, though I honestly think Golden Sun should get two reps. Don't get me wrong--I'm a huge fan and have been wanting Isaac since Brawl--but for dlc I would rather they get as many fan requests in as possible rather than use two slots for one series.
Shouldn't get two reps*
Fucking phone
Nintendo did pick the current fighter pass fighters, I think all the DLC is gonna be as crazy as it’s been so far
When the fighters pass was announced, I wanted Erdrick, Banjo, Terry, Ryu Hayabusa and Doomguy. I'm 3/5 at the moment, so I'm pretty happy.
If they were all just in the base game I wouldn't care, but they're $25 and I couldn't possibly care any less about any of them aside from Banjo, who was still me with a "meh, okay" from me. So I basically have to blow another $25 on characters I don't give a shit about or have an incomplete game.
Joker was a fucking TERRIBLE choice, Hero is whatever and Hat Ken was another awful, awful choice. Getting sick of generic human characters, do something unique like Piranha Plant again. A Metal Slug tank would have been very unique and creative, but no, we get another generic guy who punches and kicks.
>Joker gets unique gimmicks
>Hero gets unique gimmicks
>Banjo turns out to be a normal character
>Terry is a safe choice
Hopefully the last one makes up for those two
I'm 3/4 with the pass so far, which is plenty good for me. Way better than the Smash 4 DLC in my opinion.
Cringe zoomer post
The only one here I'm not care about is Banjo, so I'm satisfied with where things goes.
Hope 5th character will be Dante.
Salty maker of the image.
>Joker gets unique gimmicks
>Hero gets unique gimmicks
And they're terrible and make playing against the characters not fun.
Joker's Purse Owner obscures what he's doing making him very hard to read and follow and causes most players to play extremely defensively until the meter is full, Hero's RNG bullshit is just that, RNG bullshit. I don't think he's busted or anything, just not fun to play against. No one likes losing due to randomness, its why stage hazards and items aren't used in serious play.
>Jeanne
>Dixie Kong
>Octoling
>Trevor Belmont
>Raichu
Even Nintendo knew no one gave a shit about Terry, his reveal was in the middle of the video instead of being a surprise at the end.
Empty slots don't mean anything, never pay attention to them. Just because they're there doesn't mean they'll get filled and they could also add more if they wanted to. Smash 4 had way more empty slots than the amount of DLC we got.
The problem is that there's no real general appeal characters in it, all of them only really please fans of their respective series, or people who didn't care about the pass in the first place.
>>Banjo turns out to be a normal character
Sakurai specifically pointed out that he's the only character where you have to fire a projectile backwards, and Wonderwing doesn't really have anything like it either.
you're a bit of a blockhead
I've never even played, nor do I care about the games the DLC characters have come from, but I still love them being in.
Yeah but Smash 4's development was also dropped so they could start working on Smash 5, because the Wii U was a failure and they needed to pivot away from it. Ultimate is built to last a long time.
Anyone who thought Metal Slug was ever on the table was outright delusional.
By far the least hype reveal so far
It's not as big a part of his moveset as it is with Joker or Hero though.
I honestly feel like the pass was made solely to test if people would blind buy DLC without knowing what it was, and it seems to have worked.
I don't really mind since I like everyone, would have bought everyone anyway and the FP is priced in such a way that you get 5 characters for the price of 4.
I am satisfied!
Or Jibanyan.
No, but I would be lying if I said the prospect of more DLC packs doesn't give me hope.
Hang in there.
The letters are a reference to Animal Crossing. Joker's trailer was the first character reveal to include the letter that wasn't Animal Crossing related.
Excellent taste, I agree with every single one of your picks
Yup, I'm satisfied.
He's right, though. Pyra is basically an assist trophy in her game, barring that one cutscene. All the blades would be pretty terrible in Smash because of the sheer lack of moves, except for KOS-MOS and Nia.
I'm genuinely happy about everyone's inclusion but I have noticed that they all have insane recovery. Plant has the copter shit. Joker has a long ass tether with a quick pull in, arsene is invulnerable for a few frames and has reach. Hero has kaswoosh that has multi hits and his zoom. B&K? They can jump and air dodge out of up and side b and combine all of them in different patterns. For example side b into charged up b into a jump and then air dodge.
The dlc characters compared to the base roster have crazy recoveries. If Terry breaks this pattern of recoveries I'll be very pleased. It's interesting to see.
Fuck Joker.
Hero was a pleasant surprise though I wanted Slime
Banjo, no need to explain
I don't care for Terry.
The last character can make or break the pass for me.
>sakurai enters a major
>he comes with two controllers and plays both kirby and deedeedee at once with megolovania playing in the background
replace that faggot ass masterchief for geno then this is the best timeline
Its really cool, I would have liked someone besides joker tho, like Jack Frost/pyro jack combo or something.
And I love Terry but I'd have rather had Fio.
Yeah I cannot see Terry having much to recover with. It'll probably be decent at best, so I think you'll be happy.
Whoever owns this hat, I just want to say you got scammed because Terry's hat is supposed to have a white brim.
The pass has been fucking shit aside from terry and I didn't even particularly want him in. Diluted with way too many shill picks.
>way too many shill picks.
...One?
The last fighter is Spyro. Sakurai hinted at it during that Smash Bros thing after the last Direct.
2. Dragon Quest, while ultimately deserving to be in of it's own right, was still a shill pick for the newest entry on switch. Joker is continued atlus wank and banjo is the "expected eventually" pick.
I'd like this, but what's the hint?
the chairs were yellow and purple
it's over, he's fucking in, man
>Ray
You're alright with me
>fulgore
>saki
my nigga
Buzzbombs being in the Banjo-Kaoozie stage. The only enemy cameo in the stage and he specifically says they're dragonflies. In the N64 of Banjo-Kazooie, Buzzbombs looked the exact same as Sparx.
I bought the pack on a whim yesterday. Play style wise I like Banjo but Joker and hero don’t feel like a good fit. Hero‘s menu system feels awkward but overpowered at the same time and apart from that gimmick he’s boring, and joker’s moveset just feels unpolished, the up+b grapple feels good to hit with though.
I’d rather more single player content than more characters honestly, the online isn’t good enough to keep me subscribed to the service and there’s literally less than there was to do in melee and that had 20 something characters rather than like 80.
How is that a hint? He said he put them in because they're the only flying enemy so they were the only ones that would work as a background cameo. Which is kind of odd since he could have put any of those vegetable enemies bouncing around on the ground.
>Fulgore
Mah negro. Would work as a historical pick as well since Killer Instinct was originally supposed to be the lead launch title for the Ultra 64 before the delay from 1995 and rename.
Well, he confirmed Home Run Contest was the last mode so if you were hoping for otherwise then I'm sorry to inform you that this is the one thing we know for sure, that it'll just be characters from here on out. Honestly I don't think there's really that much else they could have added, trophies are pointless, platforming stages in adventure mode are neat the first time but they get old fast. Stuff like Target Test was fun but designing one for 70+ characters would be a lot of work. I can't think of any ideas for new modes that would be particularly interesting. All in all it's a lot of wasted development time that is better used for making more characters. The only cut feature that really bothered me was Stage Builder, and then they went and added that right back in, so I'm good.
Well, from those 4, the only one I didn't knew was Hero (even Reimu is more popular than him around here).
i like the character picks but could they at least give us a single echo to go with them?
>smt 1/2/4 hero
>psaro, terry, anybody
>not sure who could go here
>i dont know final fight
There will probably be some echoes sold separately now that they're doing more characters. It just makes sense as a way to pad out the roster.
When you think about it, it's kind of absurd that Terry is supposed to be out in two months and they only have two moves ready to show us. They are working on these characters all the way up to the last minute.
Well, Geno's in.
Wasn't interested in Joker or Hero.
I got hyped for Banjo for some reason even though I've barely played a Banjo game.
Terry was a cool reveal even though I barely knew who he was. Seems like now I would really like more characters from other fighting games (Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur).
Who I actually want would be Viewtiful Joe.
Not the first time something like this happened.
Remember the "leak" who guessed Banjo and Hero along with every alt Hero would have?
I'm also pretty sure the born to feel guy just accidentally guessed Piranha Plant correctly aswell.
Banjo and Terry are great picks
>Joker
he's good, but i'd rather have a different SMT/Persona character
>Hero
fucking great because of the different versions
>Banjo & Kazooie
i don't care about their games, but they're part of Nintendo's story despite being owned by M$
>Terry
fucking great
overall it's great
Your reaction when the final character is Grate Guy.
Joker sucks, rest are good.
Hero is my favorite so far, because Dragon Quest should have been in smash a long time ago.
Wouldn't surprise me if the reveal actually started completely serious with introducing Grate Guy only to have Geno come in and take the letter away.
Kinda lame that the best they can do for DQ music-wise is 8 MIDI songs and no arrangements, though.
I'm putting more stock into Doomguy now that there are more DLC slots to fill. Still, nothing's taken for granted.
November would be the best time to reveal him, and would make the most sense.
>Doom Eternal and the Doom 64 re-release come out in November, both on Switch
>Id has also been extremely adamant about it being the 25th anniversary, and it's arguable Hines' nintendo surprise hasn't dropped yet.
>Terry comes out in November and will most likely have a Direct presenting him, our 5th character might be revealed there.
I'm not expecting anything, but if there's anything happening, it should be there.
I like the pass, and actually went out and got Persona 5 and DQ11 because of it. Love those game so far. Beat Kamoshida’s palace, and got to the dock city
What's up with that picture, does Doom Eternal have a second Doomguy with a cool helmet?
Every DLC has been better than the last (Outside of Banjo being worse than Hero)
Hoping we get someone like Leon to finish the pass off.
We don't really know yet.
Might be a miniboss. Invasion-exclusive character if you join another player's campaign. Battlemode demon.
The Midis drive me insane.
I hate Square Enix so much, it sucks that I like so many of their IPs.
>Modern rep
>Legacy rep
>Never ever boomer rep
>Sakurai's fighting game rep
I like it a lot
Also
>Sans Undertale
At least Adventure is so good that it still sounds great in MIDI form. But I agree, SE makes some of my favorite games and yet the people in charge of the business decisions are some of the most evil, greediest people out there. I pirate their games when I can but it sucks because if they weren't so awful I'd be happy to support them.
I fucking love it. Joker was super unexpected but awesome. Hero is pretty much everything I could have hoped for as a DQ rep which was my top choice next to Banjo who I never thought would actually make it in. Terry is the only one I'm not over the moon about since I was never super in to Fatal Fury/KoF but he totally deserves a spot. I really hope he gets his Garou look though, it's way fucking cooler. I'd still love to see Doomguy, Crash and Spyro but honestly at this point I'm already super satisfied so whoever else gets in now is just a bonus.
>Joker
A dud of a pick but whatever.
>Hero
Pretty cool, I had Dragon Warrior III for Gameboy but barely remember it. Good addition and fun RNG gimmickry. I actually had never played since he was added until Banjo came out though and I sure fuckin' see why people got annoyed with him now.
>Banjo
Singlehandedly makes the pass valid.
>Terry
Pretty cool obscure nod to the Neo Geo and 90's arcade and beat'em ups in general. It's nice that every pick doens't have to be a massive fan request character or gigantic crossover mascot like Cloud or something and we can get classic gaming acknowledgements. Would have been cool to have Mai or SamSho character but this is alright, will see how he plays.
>?????
Apparently the 5th fighter is built from Metaknight according to the dataminers, but that could mean a huge range of characters considering how different other DLC fighters are from their basis fighters. Still it pretty much rules out Doomguy which is a shame, but people theorizing Ryu or Crash might have some validity.
>Apparently the 5th fighter is built from Metaknight
Huh?
fucking this.
months ago if anyone had tried to give away the current roster for the DLC , he would havebeen greeted with mockery and "never ever". Joker because "not nintendo / too niche" ; Hero because "the west doesn't care" ; Banjo because "microsoft" and Terry because "literaly who". Anyone who think he can predict the 5th char is into some big dellusion
According to the dataminers, but that could mean a huge range of characters considering how different other DLC fighters are from their basis fighters. Still it pretty much rules out Doomguy which is a shame, but people theorizing Ryu or Crash might have some validity.
It's funny, literally every pick in the pass has managed to break some perceived "rule" that would have supposedly kept them out of the game. I look forward to seeing what rule the fifth fighter will break.
I haven't heard anything about DLC fighters using existing fighters as a base, who do the other fighters use?
i never realised Terry actually got leaked. anyone have it?
also sauce
I am extremely in love with this pass
>Joker was really funny to play as
>Got the DQ XI demo to get the Tockles spirit but I got in love with the game and if I wasn't a poorfag I'd buy it
>Wanted Banjo in after a lot of research and after being annoyed by Steveposters
>Realized Terry's potential and accepted him in
Go on, throw me the fifth one too. The only way they could ruin this would be Byleth, Dimitri, Claude or Edelgard at this point.
>additional DLC is to "please fans"
>Square already got their shill pick in the fighters pass
>the new DLC might've been decided after Spirits
Nowhere near guaranteed, but there's definitely a chance.
Terry didn't get leaked, a few people merely guessed him correctly because he's SNK's most popular character and were wrong on everything else.
The base of a fighter could change in development, you know.
Same. It kinda makes me wish it's gonna be Geno even if i don't care for the character, or Waluigi that I really don't want, just for the shitstorm.
Heihachi seems a possibility
MK is banned in Japan so unfortunately no Scorpion, Raiden, Sub Zero or motherfucking Liu Kang
Only character i know from Soul Calibur is Yoshimitsu so idk
This pass has been pretty based so far
The only one i could call a stinker atm is Hero due to SE's executive meddling
I mean west doesn't care has been moot for a while, what with all the FE characters.
The Soul Calibur rep would be Nightmare, he's a stance-based greatsword wielder.
Bowser Jr, MiiSwordfighter, Duck Hunt.
Some discord where the dataminers congregate and shit. It's where they post all their info each new update. I don't know firsthand cause I am not a discordfag.
There would be evidence found of that if they switched fighters for their base.
>"hurrr muh NES picks"
>doom is cero z in japan
>skyrim is cero z in japan
>spirit
No
>I would have rather got my first party characters like botw champions or ARMS fighter.
Get some taste.
...Joker uses Bowser Jr. as a base? I guess anything goes then.
>pyra
You didn't even play xc2 did you
id be impressed with nintendos relentlessness if they add anymore fe characters
No Plant does. I don't remember who Joker was supposed to be branched from.
>Joker
No attachment to Persona, but he's a pretty fun fighter, so no real complaints. Music and stage are pretty sick.
>Hero
Also no attachment here. Base kit is pretty fun, though nothing amazing. But spell select and random crits give Hero the potential to be absolute horse shit through no direct contribution of the player, and that's absolutely not a good thing. Frankly if it were up to me, I'd throw him back in the oven for a month or two.
>Banjo & Kazooie
Admitted bias here as BK and BT were a huge part of my childhood (Grunty's Revenge was also not terrible). I think the bear and bird were done wonderful justice here. They're fun to play, seem pretty fair and balanced, animations all feel lovingly crafted, no real bullshit to speak of. My only "complaint" is I want more music.
>Terry
Like some others, once the SNK thing was leaked, I saw it coming, even if I hoped and prayed it would be a more unique pick, or maybe even a surprise pick like someone from Metal Slug.
Ryu and Ken don't give me much confidence in the inclusion of another fighting game character in Smash. They're really kinda boring additions, though I've got a feeling I might be alone in thinking that. Regardless, hopefully Terry will be a different case.
I'm generally satisfied enough so far. There are definitely characters I'd rather have than Joker, Hero and Terry, but I finally got my beloved bear and bird, so I'm fine with the other added variety. And hey, a second fighters pass was announced, so maybe I'll still get one of my other hopefuls.
>dude asking an asian man for diversity
He's fucking Yellow nigga he got plenty of diversity.
>hibiki
Nice
Maybe it will be Geralt to break the "no book characters" rule. And then those same people will be like "Well ACTUALLY he's not really a book character when you think about it" and they'll be right because the games are pretty much their own thing that don't expect you to read the books so it's kind of disingenuous to call him a book character but it will still be shameful to watch them backpedal.
This would be the perfect second fighters pass in my opinion:
>If they keep up with this pace, the fifth one will be fucking awesome.
Oh yeah man, 3 japanese literally whos and a dead mascot. Fucking epic!
Joker is the only odd man out for me. I get having a SMT/Persona rep but I think they could've gone with someone else for a rep or just some other IP that has some more legacy. Also, even though Terry is a decent choice, I still would've gone with Metal Slug for a SNK rep.
We already roasted him for that, he cried and ran away.
>or Waluigi that I really don't want, just for the shitstorm.
I could actually see them introducing a fifth fighter and then adding a bonus free fighter like the plant, except it's Waluigi.
The additional DLC fighters will probably just be fighters without a stage or music, once the pass is complete the stage select will have a full square too, they didnt say additional stages were being made
His ass
NO NINTENDO CHARACTERS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
>They didn't even let you put his hat on a Mii Fighter
This was unforgivable desu.
>durr hurr different Nintendo worlds don't count as different game worlds because I am stupid
....fuck that's a good point. They didn't even call them "Challenger Packs" when they announced they were making more dlc fighters
you gotta be stupid to not know the last character is from Namco and from tales of
Yes, honestly, it's all been characters I wanted so far.
Frisk has earned their place but Kris doesn't even remotely deserve to be in Smash, despite the cooler design. He doesn't even have a full game yet, just a demo of something to come in 6 years
To be fair they didn't really give any details about the fighters, but I agree that they probably will not make more stages since the stage select screen was clearly created with a specific number of stages in mind. I think music is still possible though, they can always just toss it in the "Other" menu.
I honestly feel bad for anyone who purchased the pass.
It’’s absolutely perfect. My three most wanted characters, Joker and Hero is in, along with Terry. Banjo is a boring pick but it’s about time he joined.
It must burn your little asshole up knowing you'll never bully Genobros into submission.
Unless the translation was off, Sakurai said 'the in-game footage is shaping up nicely, but we weren't quite ready to include it in the reveal'. They probably just rushed the reveal after the leaks.
What if it's Dimitri, Claude, AND Edelgard all in one character and their idle pose is dancing around like this.
Joker was a stupid addition. He doesn't fit at all, if they were going for an atlus rep then they should've done Jack Frost. The rest of the roster is tight though.
I really hope Steve doesn't even get a Mii costume, just because it would mean Vergeben is a complete fraud who made everything up.
This meme needs to end. Do you really think Nintendo will opt to add less content (and ultimately hurt sales) for such a superficial reason as icon space? Page 2 is a thing, and they've done it in the 3DS games. There's no reason why they can't do the same for Ultimate.
In fact, when you account for all the future DLC stages, there will be one extra space, and I suspect that space is reserved for the page 2 arrow icon.
That empty space fills up for custom stages and or training stage
>In fact, when you account for all the future DLC stages, there will be one extra space, and I suspect that space is reserved for the page 2 arrow icon.
Actually, that extra space is filled by the Training stage in training mode so while you may be right about the second page, that's not what it's going to be for.
Making stages and remixes cost money and time, those aren’t very superficial especially if these extra fighters weren’t initially planned
Well gee it sure is a shame they are giving all these characters and stages for free instead of charging money which they can then use to make more characters and stages. Oh wait.
They are making more characters, not more stages. If one has priority over the other, the fighter would win over stage 100% of the time, which is what they seem to have chosen
At this point still denying that Vergeben has some sort of insider info is stupid.
Obviously not everything he says is 100% reliable, but generally whenever he seems to be sure of something, it does end up happening.
If we're talking about Smash atleast.
>There are retards who think there will be TEN extra fighters due to muh empty slots
Cope, it will be like 2 or 3 additional characters at most, if there were enough for even a second pass they would have just announced that instead.
Also no first party characters, Sakurai clearly spelled it out for you.
I think spending less time on stages would actually result in them having more time to make more fighters so as long as the price of the fighters are lower it's really not the worst idea. There's precedent for it too, in Smash 4, Corrin was $5 instead of $6 due to not coming with a stage.
I can't really say any of them are bullshit undeserving picks like Corrin. None of them are my favorites, but I got hype at the Joker and Banjo announcements just from the sheer surprise.
Ryu would be kino but he’s not happening because I want him
Maybe you just hate video games, and don't know shit about them
>if there were enough for even a second pass they would have just announced that instead
They didn't explain the new DLC that much, we're probably getting more info once Fighter #5 drops.
The no stages thing might give some characters like Rex and Pyra consideration since they already have stuff like their music in the game. But we dont know if Sakurai will break the spirits rule yet
If it makes you feel better, I have decided I want Ryu, and when I did this for Corrin, it happened.
My 3 most wanted characters for Ultimate were Simon Banjo and Hayabusa, so right now Sakurai is blessing my requests
I still think they should add music though, even if it's just a couple tracks or if it's the original music. Say Geno gets in and now all Mario stages have the ability to use Super Mario RPG music. That would be awesome because there are a ton of Mario stages to choose from.
I could see a Sans scenario where Geno is a character and he gets a remix included
It's a solid pass, I just feel indifferent towards DQ and Fatal Fury
Pretty satisfied. Joker was a weak start but otherwise they're all pretty good. I hope the 5th is just a good as the last few
If the remix is as good as the Megalovania remix is, I would be cool with that.
Not always the case. Still I don't think it's ever been a straight brim though.
The only one I don't like is Terry. I'm ok to Joker and Hero because they make sense even if I'm not familiar with them, but Terry feels pretty out of place. Compared to the others, he's not unique, he's not iconic, he's not relevant. He just appeals to a very niche audience (fighting game hardcore fans like Sakurai).
Sakurai crawls out of your toilet and tells you that Geno is in, BUT you have to choose one SMRPG track that will be remixed and included with Geno.
What one do you choose?
Beware the Forest’s Mushrooms obviously
I wish Joker had a Flynn alt, but otherwise I think it's good.
Joker's potential was completely wasted by giving him a shitty moveset that is largely copy/pasted from existing characters and doesn't represent how he fights in his source game at all. They also completely made up a fucking meter mechanic that doesn't exist in P5 just to cram a gimmick into an already shit character
Hero is from an influential RPG series, although only Japs care about it. His normal attacks are largely copy/pasted from existing characters but his specials give him something unique. His MP and random spells gimmicks go too far IMO and make him feel overdesigned. Also has one of the laziest stages I've ever seen.
Banjo & Kazooie are from a dead series with one good game that came out more than 20 years ago, but were fairly well requested by the community for whatever reason. Their moveset does do a good job of representing their moves from the games, though there are still baffling examples of copy/paste jobs such as the forward air being Mario's instead of their iconic rat-a-tat rap. Overall the best character so far
Terry, despite what everyone is currently pretending, was completely and utterly unwanted and is by far the least relevant character in the pass so far, which is REALLY saying something. Nobody has been able to provide a poll conducted in the lead up to Ultimate's release where Terry appears in any spot. Nobody wanted him. Nobody but fake hype bandwagoners are interested in him. And all he does in his games is punch and sometimes punch with some special effects. His moves will be boring as fuck.
I have no faith that character 5 will be any good either.
Donkey Kong, my boy, what will you d- OH SHIT
I've grown to like it. I still don't care for Joker as a MegaTen rep but I respect Hero and Terry's legacy (even if it's basically non-existent to me personally because the games either never came out here in a timely manner or were in genres I was never into). Banjo & Kazooie were one of my most wanted and they got done justice.
A buzzbomb is the first thing you see when you boot up Banjo-Kazooie but oddly enough he didn't even mention that.
absolute fucking zoomer here, the only series I played from those was Dragon Quest, bought Hero and Banjo because everyone was hyping him up, tried Joker before and he fucking sucks
to my surprise, I was dissapointed with Hero, his magic is too fucking strong while he is really slow and unfun to play as
and surprisingly, Banjo is the most fun character of the 3, legit fun
I wish too but I lost hope at ultimate release
My friend puts up a real stiff challenge as Joker
I don't think he sucks, you just gotta git gud
You think that's bad? K. Rool and Incineroar have the exact same up smash. Same animation and everything. They didn't even try to hide it.
I don't think that'll be the case for all of them but "just a character + music" packs will definitely be a thing. They'll probably throw in some Brawl-style clones too, like Dixie as a modified Diddy.
oh no, he sucks as in, hes not fun to use, in base hes pretty neat to use because hes fast and has some neat combo options
as Arsene, just hit hard lol and kill whatever is higher than 80%, its dumb
All solid picks, don’t really care for joker but maybe I’ll give P5 a shot. Hero hits like a truck but is fun to play, banjo too. Very excited for Terry.
This pass is shit. 3 characters no one wanted are are not interesting(2 of witch are clones) Banjo-Kazooie is the only good character that people wanted and even then get didn't get as much as Joker or Hero did(I'd bet Terry with get an alt and something special unlike fucking banjo.)
Plus I'm not paying a third the cost of the base game for far less than a third of the base game's content.
oh, yeah, that's fair
Exactly. It baffles me that these characters have such a copy+paste problem. It's disgusting especially when asking for a third of the base game's cost for ONE pass.
Banjo got 7 remixes which is more than Hero and Joker can say, and his stage is the best of the three.
for me, it's been:
>nice
>your usual japan pick, apparently good
>HOLY SHIT
>some guy from some fighting game with supposedly good R63 shit or something
really looking forward to number 5, also seeing more people just want ALL the characters instead of arguing over who deserves it more (stuff like heavy vs tracer) is very nice.
this, I was much more interested in the other three than joker. Still overall a good pass.
>(2 of witch are clones)
>really looking forward to number 5
lmao you ready for a generic sword user no one wanted with a down B counter?
You're delusional if you don't think these characters haven't been requested to an extent.
also why the fuck Yea Forums pages keep refreshing every time I change tabs it's messing with my posts
Talking just about characters I wanted? It has nothing for me.
Talking about just the choices and how they were implemented though:
>Plant wound up being one of my favorites
>Didn't know anything about Joker, find him fun but not really my kind of character
>Thought Hero did deserve it and actually really enjoy playing him for his BS
>Thought Banjo deserved it but wouldn't be fun to play. kinda right since he's not broken like the others, but he's still decent and I don't mind playing him as much as I thought I would
>Really didn't want Terry but I'm interested in trying him
I kinda hope Fighter #5 is something super outlandish but still enjoyable. Give me TF2's Heavy or Red Dead's John Marston. One final sign that Nintendo and Sakurai don't give a shit about console loyalties, they'll work with former rivals or with franchises that are barely even on their systems.
Everyone of jjoker's moves/animations are borrowed from other characters, there's nothing new about his kit. Same thing with Hero. EVen Banjo-KAzooie have a copy+paste problem.
Yeah, why are we getting so many reused moves on characters we're getting charged for? They've been incredibly lazy all the while whining that this is hard work. How the fuck are you going to give Banjo Mario's dunk punch when he has an actual forward aerial attack in his game?
>one for japanese zoomers
>one for japanese boomers (considering Erdrick is there)
>one for western boomers
>one for spics
>???
i haven't even bought the fighter's pass yet but numero 5 will make me decide if i wanna buy it or not. if it's some boring swordsman, i might not get it. if it's someone cool and unique, i'll probably get it.
holy FUCK that's some good shit right there
> They've been incredibly lazy
Welcome to Sakurai's game. He's a lazy director and lazy game maker. The worse clone in the game though will always be Ganondorf.
This DLC pass is not worth what they're asking.
> if it's some boring swordsman
I'll bet you money it'll be Ryu Hyabusa.Japanese owned, generic look, down B counter, not wanted. He's the perfect character. That and Ryu has been in a lot of the Terry leaks.
All I want is Rock Howard and Adol but there's virtually no chance of either making it in. Also I'd love to see a Gundam rep.
A cheeky speccy rep for the Euro boomers.
Don't care about Joker at all.
Don't care for Hero's playstyle but DQ is a juggernaut that deserves a spot.
Banjo is great.
Happy with Terry, not the most interesting SNK character but he's their mascot and I remember him being fun in CvS2.
Number 5 should be Dante or Chosen Undead.
Jetpac?
I can almost hear the 40 year old British boomers losing their shit if that made it in.
>it gets a lot of hate
u wot m8
The only one so far that really appeals to me is Joker but I was already beyond happy with the base roster.
I feel like the other additions deserve the spot and I love seeing new series make it into Smash so I'm happy with them so far.
>Only Nintendo rep is from Astral Chain
Fuck off that game is garbage
Sakurai didn't get picking rights for the DLC pack, Nintendo directly did
Does anyone knows if the ultra HD 140Mo version of the mural banner has been updated with the new characters? I can only find it for the base roster banner, and very small / 5Mo versions of the updated banner.
Quote from Cave Story when
>kicked off the solo indie vidya genre by itself
>already on Nintendo and known around the world
>Curly Brace alt
number 5 is Heavy.
Not a chance
probably.
god i wish.
Terry is the only underwhelming one imo. I guess if you like SNK fightan it's a big deal but most people dont lmao
Oh shit leaked Season 2
I tell him to go back into the toilet and that considering literal shit as 5th dlc is not a good idea.
I mean at this rate, it's possible. 2 problems though:
1. What music can they get? Can't fight to remixes of the main theme only.
2. That would requires Valve to lift a finger and we know they don't do that with anything that involves their own games.
A DQ and RE rep would have been the safest guesses since they're the largest jp franchises not yet included. Since when has the west not caring ever stopped sakurai?
someone post the pic with the track list
Now this is epic bait. Paste yourself some new material
I think I already got my purchase validate. Two of this picks make me really happy over all, with the other two being characters I am not only perfectly ok with, but I can also respect, not to mention either the music or the stages have been great so far. In any case, with four out of five done, I could flat out hate the final character (Highly unlikely) and it wouldn't matter because I got it for free, and I would still get a stage and music out of it!
Apparently Nintendo didn't decide on more dlc fighters until around E3 and NMH3 just got announced there. People pestered Suda about Smash then too and he said people have to ask Nintendo. I wonder if that was a generic response or he caught wind of the plans from the Nintendo people. Either way, I'm tweeting at Nintendo every day for it.
Why do you want Reimu to be mainstream? It will rape Touhou forever more.
Hey fellow Banjo bros,
It's time to support Conker!
Banjo was the one thing I felt was missing from Smash for 20 years. He alone is worth the entire cost of the pass for me.
I liked Persona 5 a lot and think it's a fun and exciting pick and Joker is mechanically cool. Great choice, really adds something unique to the table for Smash and getting a Smash-y version of Aria of the Soul is AWESOME.
I have minimal but SOME experience with SNK and Dragon's Quest, but being aware of their legacy I think they absolutely deserve a spot. Part of Smash for me as a kid was always this discovery of things I only knew a little about or didn't know at all alongside the things I love, so I welcome them with open arms. Hero is also VERY unique among the cast mechanically too.
I'm more than satisfied with just Banjo, but I think all four slots are deserving, interesting and mechanically fun and unique so far. Absolutely no complaints.
>source: my ass
Hayabusa wouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Doomslayer or Master Chief would though.
>I can't enjoy anything if the characters don't look like meeeeeeee
>Doomguy with a suit.
This pleases me for some reason.
He would because he's relatively unknown nowadays, much like erdrick and Terry.
>Valve being the lazy Jew of a company it is working with an actual hard working dev
Not a chance
Based retard.
So so. I've only bought Banjo so far. Nothing against Joker, Hero or Terry, just never was a fan of those series to churn out 5 bucks for em.
>2 (two) Golden Sun characters
>The main character is an AT
>saki
>crash bandicoot
my brother from another mother. also, fuck octoling
>representation
Of what
>No one ask for Rocky Rodent to represent Jaleco.
Apparentely the dev used to compete in Melee, so his powerlevel is probably pretty high.
Really good. Initially had mixed feelings about Joker, but now he's my main.
Trying to be more excited for Terry, but it's difficult without his full moveset. Can't wait to see him in action.
Sakurai sucks shit at Smash and uses rolls for basic movement.
>meleegro stinking up the place
One of the new fighters after the pass has to be a shillmon, it has to
>adding anyone but the main protagonist ever
Dumb waifufag, the ARMS character would be Spring Man, but he's not going to anyways because his game was a flop.
retarded zoomer kill yourself
yeah I'm pretty satisfied
Joker I wasn't too excited for initially though because I hadn't played P5 then but I'm warming up to him.
Everyone else is cool and I wanted Banjo in for a bit so I'm happy.
I'd want Doomguy or Travis next though. Here's hoping.
spotted the retarded bandana dee faggot
Based Travisbro. I hope we get him too.
same travis for last pick would be a solid dlc roster
Banjo is the weakest link in my opinion.
And not so many goddamn fire emblem characters.
All 3 so far are pretty fun to play. Terry will give Ryu and Ken players something to branch out to. I’ll take iconic third party franchise characters over Nintendo’s deep cuts any day.
>Joker
Didn't care for him before and still don't care for him much
>Hero
Fun to play, got me to try some dq games so that's a plus.
>Banjo
Cool I guess. Had banjo growing up but never liked it much so his inclusion wasn't super hype to me.
>Terry
I love how he looks. Simple but still cool. Same effect as Hero and getting me to play fighting games outside of smash (even though I suck at garou but it's fun as hell)
>5th
Will probably be a cool pick.
So far it's a pretty cool pass. Not super "Wow I can't believe he finally got in I never knew I wanted him until now" but good nonetheless. Here's to hoping pass 2 is just as interesting.