Why is every god in vidya evil?

Remember when every JRPG was about killing Yahweh?

Gods can be chads too

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God was the good guy in this
He also wasn't real

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Because you can't attain power without making enemies along the way.

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Then who hit her with the bible?

Anybody else wanted to fuck pic related and those other angel things too?

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God is a dick.

>Not long after my own death. I saw a Mighty One come down and take forth from here a group of ancient shades. Our first parent, his son Abel, Noah, Abraham, and many others. The deep foul valley trembled on all sides, and I thought that the whole universe felt... Love.

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bro is that cow sucking his dick

>Bhuni
>evil
Did you even play the game?

God
In that story

heard you talking shit

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Because God=Christianity=America

And Japs hate America after ww2. What better way to spit on that country than to shit on their god?

because the god of every real religion is pretty fucking evil. fiction takes after reality

Actually, I'm more interested on what does the average angel see humanity. Sages and Witches are obviously humans that aligned with Light or Darkness, and are pretty damn powerful to warrant a war. Do angels see humans as inferior lifeforms that they reluctantly have to use as tools to cross over earth and purgatorio? The Lore does imply they care for humans a little bit.

>adam gets condemned for a "sin" he committed before having knowledge of good and evil
>all of humanity gets punished with eternal hell as a result
>god calls this justice
rightly so

It’s an analogy for abortion.

never thought of it like that huh

Adam was given a choice.
>Choose God and thus Life (Theosis)
>Try to do it without God, and thus choose death.
He chose with full knowledge, but the good news is that salvation is still possible for those who wish to choose life.

There can be no choice in a world where an omniscient being exists. God knew, even before he created Adam, that Adam would make the choices he did. This knowledge meant that Adam was locked into those choices before he was even created, because if he did not choose exactly what God knew in advance he would, then God would have been wrong, and an omniscient being cannot be wrong.

None of the drawings are real. Only the actual colored scenes are real.
The drawings are drawings created by Isaac from his very twisted imagination.

he was a dumb animal and god only condemned him because he disobeyed. That's what it's really about, morality is just an excuse to get pissy because true freedom means people don't have to listen to you anymore.

>would you fuck it
Sure, why not.

>This knowledge meant that Adam was locked into those choices before he was even created.
What makes you say that? I am reminded that most Atheists are all former Calvinists because of your point of arguments. Clearly you seem to be applying Humanity perception of time and choices to a Being that is above the limitation of creation. You cannot define what is Uncreated with standards that are of creation. God is able to allow Free Will AND still be Omniscient. Trivia fact, even if Man didn't fall, we would will require Christ to redeem us anyway.

>he was a dumb animal
That can only be applied with Adam BEFORE God gave him the breath of life.
>true freedom means people don't have to listen to you anymore
By becoming a slave to sin and your passion, you are far less free. You chain yourself down and become less than human.

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>That can only be applied with Adam BEFORE God gave him the breath of life.
It can be applied before adam ate "the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil", because he didn't have knowledge of good and evil obviously. You don't blame a hungry dog for biting, it's a dumb animal and doesn't know any better. It's the same thing, even if eating the fruit is "wrong", he has no knowledge of that concept in the first place.

>By becoming a slave to sin and your passion, you are far less free. You chain yourself down and become less than human.
And what even is "sin"? I'm not violating anyone's rights by seeking my own freedom, so why should it be called evil?

>Why is every god in vidya evil?
Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens

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>The "God is unknowable and does not operate within the limits of reality" argument

Also known as the get out of jail free card of theistic argumentation. Why bother with pesky thinking and formulation of counter-arguments when you can just say that god is beyond the scope of human comprehension?

Humanity has unresolved anger against the Gods.

More like Japanese writers are infatuated with Gnosticism.

because there's nothing more absolutely powerful than god, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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>It can be applied before adam ate "the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil", because he didn't have knowledge of good and evil obviously.
God is Good. To go against God is literally the absence of Good, better known as evil. The fruit itself was actually going to be granted by God to Adam and Eve when they would be ready (Theosis), but they chose to do it without Him. By claiming they don't need God, they chose Death instead of Life.

>And what even is "sin"?
Sin means to "miss the mark". God created Mankind a certain way. When you choose to not do what God wanted Humanity to do, you "miss the mark" at being the Human that God wants you to be.

I seem to remember the point of argument that says that if God is within the scope of human comprehension and scientific inquiry then such a being would NOT be God then.

So God cares only about obedience, and matters or rights and justice are besides the point. Why should he be the one to decide who I am? I don't remember getting asked to sign a contract before being dragged into this life, he has no right to deny me my self determination.

You dont neet to be afraid of going to hell to convince you to be a good person. It should be innate

>So God cares only about obedience, and matters or rights and justice are besides the point.
God wants to Love you and you to love Him. He is LITERALLY Love and Justice. Everything that is Good is God. By loving positive forces in the universe, you are loving what is LITERALLY what God is.

>Why should he be the one to decide who I am? ..... he has no right to deny me my self determination.
He granted you Free Will. You have no compulsion to love Him or hate Him. It is your choice. The problem is that evil acts are things that make you stop being human and be more like unto the demons. This will effect you on a spiritual level. Should you live your life hating God and being like the demons rather than a human, your hate of God will make it so you will hate His very presence (Heaven).

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>to do it without god is death
It doesn't have to be, he literally has angels guard the tree of life so the two of them don't become "like us" after he boots them out.

Fear is the first step on the path to Wisdom.

By taking the tree of knowledge before they were ready, it would only further harm Adam and Eve if they took the fruit of life too. Later on this fruit of life ends up being Christ.

Humans have conceptualized omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence. A being with all of these qualities would certainly be considered a god by any metric.

There is no Tree of Knowledge. It's the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In simpler terms, the tree of morality. There was nothing Adam and Eve could have been prepared for, it was simply a step that had to be taken in order to become higher beings. The burden of morality is what enabled mankind to sin at all. An animal can not murder, it can only kill. Only something that understands morality can murder.

Mankind took the burden of morality and sin upon themselves, but in exchange they were granted the endless potential that only something higher than animals can achieve. God banished them from Eden because he feared they would next find the Tree of Life and that it would make them immortal which was the only thing separating them from godhood.

Snakes are also typically used as symbols of change. They are the ever-spiraling universe, constantly moving forward. They are inevitability. It was inevitable that Man would ascend to understand morality, to become something greater. The story of Genesis is the story of mankind's endless potential for both good and evil, to achieve great and terrible things.

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Final Fantasy popularized overdesigning things in media.

Correction one cannot define and fully comprehend omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence with our limitations. We as members of creation can only define God by what His is not, since language is part of creation; thus language cannot define what is uncreated.

Sounds like Gnostic nonsense.
>It's the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In simpler terms, the tree of morality.
No it isn't. That tree was the vision of God. Man was to eat at the appropriate time, because first he was to be trained spiritually and this would constitute his deification (theosis). God forbade him to eat of it because he was still imperfect, he had not been suitably prepared, just as perfect and solid food does great harm to those who still need milk. The bad thing was that Adam partook of the tree of knowledge "at the wrong time, unsuitably". And since he missed the mark and lost divine grace, it was necessary that he did not then eat of the tree of life as well, lest he be permanently confirmed in the fall and death.

>every

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How else can you tell it's a god?

I'm being facetious, of course.

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Nice fanfiction but that's not what the Bible actually says.

"Fear is the first step on the path to Wisdom."

Somebody's read Solomon, I see.

You must have a modernist background. I recommend that you research Saint Gregory the Theologian's homily of that subject. After all, nowhere does the Bible teach "Bible Alone".

Jesus fuck where is he from?

If God is so beyond human comprehension, then why do those who believe put any worth on the bible, which was written by men who cannot comprehend God? And if God made them able to comprehend him for the sake of writing the book, why does he not do so to every soul in his creation so he can have a better and, more importantly, two-way relationship with them?

Based Jesus (YHWH)

>which was written by men who cannot comprehend God?
Men wrote the Bible as conduits of the Holy Spirit.

Warriors Orochi 4

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Interesting post, famalam. Specially the first part and the serpent part; not so much that whole tree of life part. Still, based.

warriors orochi 4 apparently

warrior orochi 4

>why do those who believe put any worth on the bible, which was written by men who cannot comprehend God?
Because God spoke to them at a level they can understand.

>And if God made them able to comprehend him for the sake of writing the book, why does he not do so to every soul in his creation so he can have a better and, more importantly, two-way relationship with them?
Free will. He doesn't want you choose Him for selfish reasons.

Because those are the only ones you remember. If a god is good in a video game you have no reason to fight it, therefore you don't bother remembering it.

Knowing god exists (not just believing he does) would not restrict free will in any way.

Thanks. For my entire life I never paid much attention to blonde chads, now all of sudden I feel myself cracking when I look at one, and also all of the sudden I'm seeing them everywhere. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

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Those gods look like a bunch of fags...except for Starfire over there.

Ahem...
FUCK GODS

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Because you, the player, are the main god. All the other ones see you as competition

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Blonde chads are a rarity.

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That's Dibella, the god of art, self-expression in general and sex

It can also harden one's heart like it did with Pharaoh. There are many Atheists that proudly say that even if God were to prove His existence right in front of them, they would still deny Him. Better to give them a shot of innocence first, rather than making them be like Satan and rebel the same way.

More like Wholesome Sex as apposed to Mephala that embodies more sinister reasons behind the same act.

>Fixes all your problem.

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>still worships one

"May humanity flourish."

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Single fucking reason why I still care about PoE. How can one man be so fucking perfect? I want SIN

God evil
Church bad
Friendship strong

>the gods may or may not actually exist but are depicted as benevolent if sometimes flawed
>the church is depicted as having corrupt elements, just as every other organization in the game's plot, but generally works for good
>the pope is the final boss, but only because he was tricked into damning his own soul in the search for the power to save his people from a thousand year long siege
Play better JRPGs.

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Because nips are angry the west absolutely ass raped their religion and culture

>>the gods may or may not actually exist but are depicted as benevolent if sometimes flawed
The gods exist but they aren't gods.
>>the church is depicted as having corrupt elements, just as every other organization in the game's plot, but generally works for good
No it doesn't. The church solely exists to perpetuate a war so that they don't have to admit guilt.
>>the pope is the final boss, but only because he was tricked into damning his own soul in the search for the power to save his people from a thousand year long siege
Thordan wasn't tricked you mongoloid. He thought he was the one tricking Lahabrea. He was power hungry and wanted to become Thordan. Niddhog was already dead by the time you go to Azys Lla. Thordan just wanted to become god for his own ego. Don't give me that shit about killing the Ascians either since the WoL is proof that you don't need to summon a primal in order to kill Ascians.

why did he write his own name on his horns, or helmet, or whatever the fuck that is?

>The gods exist but they aren't gods.
I'm talking about the Twelve, not primals.
>No it doesn't. The church solely exists to perpetuate a war so that they don't have to admit guilt.
Only one person outside of the secret basement prison knows about the origin of the war. The rest of the church are normal people trying to help their country. They're also not the ones prolonging the war. Nidhogg was. Nidhogg told you flat out that he had no plans of ever stopping and actually didn't just effortlessly wipe them out a thousand years ago because he wanted an endless supply of people to torture.
>Thordan wasn't tricked you mongoloid. He thought he was the one tricking Lahabrea
He thought he was the one tricking Lahabrea, and he actually did. He was still tricked into becoming a primal.
>He was power hungry and wanted to become Thordan.
He never once talks about anything except saving his people until the primal is summoned into him. The primal of a power-hungry tyrant is summoned into his soul and suddenly he begins acting like a power-hungry tyrant. I shouldn't have to spell out what happened here.
>Don't give me that shit about killing the Ascians either since the WoL is proof that you don't need to summon a primal in order to kill Ascians.
WoL had to pull ancient magical macguffins out of his ass to kill Nabriales and Igeyorhm, who weren't even true Ascians. Thordan swiped his sword at a complete Ascian and ate him.

Stop skipping cutscenes.

Because art imitates life

Why did this whole JRPG has you kill god thing take off?
Vast majority of the time you aren't killing god but someone trying to replace them or steal their power.
You're more often than not killing a pretender to the throne in essence.

Just memes from casuals who don't actually play JRPGs but saw Kefka and Sephiroth's final forms.

Because all men are avaricious and self-righteous.

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The Divines don't really have comprehensible physical forms. Even less so than the Daedra, since they decided to become the foundation for Mundus.

>I seem to remember the point of argument that says that if God is within the scope of human comprehension and scientific inquiry then such a being would NOT be God then.
That's a tautology and therefore worthless as an argument.

Think about some important points you are missing:
>Can humans truly comprehend the vastness of infinity? No we literally cannot.
If we are to try to know God by our own limited capacity and succeed, then God is finite.
>If God is NOT infinity, then He has limitations on par with His Creation.
>If God has limitation on par with His own Creation, He then must also follow those same rules as His Creation.
>If God is limited then He is DOES NOT have Omnipotence, Omniscience, nor is Omnipresent; therefore He is not God.
Long story short, any being that can be fully understood and comprehended by Human reason is not God.

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>If God is limited then He is DOES NOT have Omnipotence, Omniscience, nor is Omnipresent; therefore He is not God.
And why do you believe the God we're talking about has any of those? You achieve a contradiction because you designed your god to be that way. It's what you want it to be, not what it would actually be.

>video games are targeted for teenagers
>teenagers want to rebel against authority
>god is the highest authority
>make him evil so the protagonist has a reason to fight him

There you go.

>And why do you believe the God we're talking about has any of those?
Because all other deities that Mankind has worshipped were literally just chaotic neutral supernatural super humans that could die by the hands of other deities and even mortals?
>You achieve a contradiction because you designed your god to be that way.
Elaborate, for I see no contradiction. I would rather worship a God that loves me so much, that He would die for His Creation, rather than some idol that would have it's creation die for it.

>Because all other deities that Mankind has worshipped were literally just chaotic neutral supernatural super humans that could die by the hands of other deities and even mortals?
And why would God be different?
>Elaborate, for I see no contradiction. I would rather worship a God that loves me so much, that He would die for His Creation, rather than some idol that would have it's creation die for it.
The contradiction I'm talking about is this
>Long story short, any being that can be fully understood and comprehended by Human reason is not God.
You're using reductio ad absurdum, but the only reason you can get to that contradiction is because you handpicked your God so that the contradiction holds. It's also quite an archaic argument, because understanding a concept does not limit it. Infinity is a well defined, widely used concept in math and it doesn't make it finite.

>And why would God be different?
Can you give me any examples that are NOT from the Talmud?
>You're using reductio ad absurdum, but the only reason you can get to that contradiction is because you handpicked your God so that the contradiction holds.
How? If I were as... liberal as you seem to want me to be with what I worship, then worshiping a Superman or Alien would be fine for you.
>Infinity is a well defined, widely used concept in math and it doesn't make it finite.
You can't truly define infinity, because to do so is stating there is finite concept to it. This isn't mathematics, but philosophy we are dealing here.

>You can't truly define infinity, because to do so is stating there is finite concept to it.
I disagree, please be more specific.
>This isn't mathematics, but philosophy we are dealing here.
They're not mutually exclusive. Again, if you define inifinity as it is defined in math you really don't alude to finite concepts. You're getting lost in the meta discussion.

Careful with that word western, it's not equivalent to Christian, western traditions include Hellenic and Nordic pantheons (and others) and the callable nature of those gods is a central theme in a lot f their stories, it's only with Christianity that you get the dindu nuthin themes where god is claimed to be infallible even though he's obviously a dickheaded thug in every fucking story

To define something is to "confine" the nature and qualities of something. You "put it in a box" based on how you perceive what it is and what it can do. You place a "limit" on that thing once you define it.
>Mathematics and Philsophy and not mutually exclusive.
But I'm not talking about actual infinity in equations. I'm talking about such things as infinity like eternity and other concepts that don't have any limitations what so ever. They are all encompassing at all times and go on forever beyond our own understanding.

Fair enough, I understand what you mean now. I still disagree though, eternity and the like are subservient to infinity and by defining that you have the potential to define the rest.

>by defining that you have the potential to define the rest.
Which neither of us can, for we are both finite beings. You and I are like the 2D shapes on a paper trying to comprehend a 3D visitor that happend to roll by.

>Which neither of us can, for we are both finite beings. You and I are like the 2D shapes on a paper trying to comprehend a 3D visitor that happend to roll by.
I can, it's been done. You don't need to live in 4D to understand how it works, hell, mathematicians work in infinite dimensions regularly.

user? We are not 3D, creation as a whole as we observe in real time is actually 4D. If you want to use us as literal example you need to try to comprehend 5D.

We perceive space as 3D. Either way that's beside the point.

We also perceive time, as an object moves through space.

Because most of the time you fight God in a JRPG you're fighting the demiurge - a false god independent of the benevolent will of the creator.

Like I said, irrelevant. Replace 4 with N.

ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

this, good gods almost never have a role to play in the story, so they don't usually even appear in the game even when they are known to exist.
the only recent game i can think of with a good "god" in it was Xenoblade 2.

Actraiser.
Evo

>Oh my. What brought you here I wonder...

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Because only people in a monothesic society where all spiriutality and mysticism that is good or noble or positive or whatever being tied to said monogod sees this as wrong or abnormal

IN all other successful societies there are not only many gods but everything is imbued with spirituality and mysticism making society more stable and whole.

A throaway capitalist society with a monotheisic pseudo empire on top of it is...bad.
It's destructive.

In socieites with many gods and not just one overwhelming god/memetic weapon of control people often overthrow those gods.
Those gods or being deified with the spiritual will of the people overall are oft cast down by people as a way to erect new gods and new ways for society to grow.

The way of society is to cast down old spiritual ideals as personified by deities and erect new ones.

In a society ruined by the idea of an overarching uber entity that rules cruely over everything with no other mysticicsm to their society outside of that, which is often controlled by a group of people who are gate keepers to what you can or can't do not just in terms of spritual belief but in what you can do overall.

This idea of an undefeatable god that one must submit too eternally or face eternall punishment is a madness that leads to nothing good. It's also a new creation that has absolutely nothing to do with the original christianity created by the uncrowned bastard king of israel jesus.

My ultimate goal is to punch god in the face.

A god that is not an antagonist has little reason to exist in standard heroic stories
If he's good and making someone fight and die for him because he can't do something, then there's not much point to them being a god in the first place

>A god that is not an antagonist has little reason to exist in standard heroic stories
Nigger read some Campbell

Because to paint something as unknowable, enigmatic and truly powerful is to basically describe it as god. It's easier to make a villain like this. A person may just be born evil, but more likely they were turned because of events in their life- and when you'd rather have an inhuman, destructive and unknowable entity as your central enemy, it's easier to call it a "god"

((()))
Both of you are forgetting that such... dynamic pagan pantheon makes things like morality subjective to the winds of opinions. One man’s vice is another man’s virtue and all that.

That's fucking retarded.
The hell?

All societies no matter what god or gods they worship have the same basic morality.

You are confusing submitting to an omnipresent deity and the people on earth who pretend to speak for it with having an enforced agreed upon rule of law.

The satanists and hedonist types use the existence of one to give weight to their lifestyle and beliefs that would not fly in any other society on earth no matter what type of organized spirituality the follow.

Take the hint.

Notice how the christcuck squirms at the suggestion of gnosticism, how he recoils, how nervous he gets. He knows you will read the bible and observe the behaviour of both christians and their demonic god.

>All societies no matter what god or gods they worship have the same basic morality.
Not really. Not every country follows the Western European standard user. My ancestors believed burying their dead to be eaten by worms and jungle animals was the worst thing to ever do to your family, and so they are their dead “respectfully”, at least until we got enslaved then shipped to America. Without a supreme moral standard of a single God, all morality is subject to change based on culture and time periods.

Not the guy you're talking to but surely you can see how human morality has its roots in human psychology and the structure of the brain, formed over a long-ass time by the slow process of evolution. This is why there are common moral goods and bads even across vastly different cultures.

>human morality has its roots in human psychology and the structure of the brain
>And in the end basically I'm going to argue that jesus is real and that you know by design that in saturdays you can't light a fire becasuse the bible says so
>yes, all persons know from birth you can't light a fire in saturday
>the law is truly in our hearts.

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Point of view.
Imagine you've got an bee hive in your porch. Your wife and children are terrified of it and it's keeping you from enjoying your porch so you go to remove it. It's just a bee hive. But to the bees it's all they've ever known or cared about. You're an evil powerful being to them.

>This is why there are common moral goods and bads even across vastly different cultures.
Christians call that the Natural Law that was written in their hearts. This sense of right and wrong is what makes us Humans rather than just animals. Morality being a product of evolution makes it STILL subjective and vulnerable to change.

Because life is suffering.

See
>And in the end basically I'm going to argue that jesus is real and that you know by design that in saturdays you can't light a fire becasuse the bible says so

Like clockwork, notice how the humongous faggot didn't address the issue I presented.

>Adam chose
Adam didn't choose shit, he was tricked by Eve. Christians have been tricked into respecting women when they are the vulnerability of man.

You're confusing small niggling social bullshit with basic human morality that all societies are built upon and demand to function normally.

Outsidehings like war time, times of peace, times of feast, times of famine and if they live in large cities or small communities.
It's all the same shit.

>It was all a parable user
>therefore man wasn't created, the doctrine of orginal sin is bullshit and satan and hell are bullshit too
>just don't examine the story carefully because god lies in the story and behaves very suspiciously and it might make my religion look bad.

Because most gods in mythologies are complete assholes

They aren't evil, they just have a different set of morals that collide with a human's.

Go have your religious slap fight somewhere else faggots.

Monotheisic religions and moder atheism which equals thinly veiled satanism and nature worship...
It's all shit.
Just absolute shit that is destroying the modern world.

>basic human morality that all societies are built upon
This doesn't happen in real life.

>even though he's obviously a dickheaded thug in every fucking story
Which makes sense since Old T God is just a Jewish revenge and power fantasy

I’m not a Jew. I don’t follow Mosaic law. Your argument doesn’t apply to me.

>j-jesus removed the law even tough he carefully adresses he is not here to remove it
>n-no, I mean fullfilled, he fullfiled it

Does the word fullfill means remove?

The dagda was a total bro.
A fat fuck who just wanted to eat his soup and have parties.

then why don't they fucking update the bible

You don't live in real life
You live in a tiny bubble and the rest of the world is fed too you through carefully controlled media and google searches.

More like “concluded”. They served their purpose and are no longer needed.

>The fruit itself was actually going to be granted by God to Adam and Eve when they would be ready
No.
That's people trying to save the text from what it actually says.

>nowhere does the Bible teach "Bible Alone".
For they follow doctrines of man and not the word of god

because she killed millions...

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That's because Yhweh is the ancient jewish god of war.

The Bible doesn’t need to be “update”. The Bible itself is more like a book of liturgy. Everything else you imply wish to be added or updated is already part of the Holy traditions and canon laws.

You don't follow those holy traditions and laws.
You follow whatever the person in your church or society at large tells you to follow.

I live in a world where not every country is christian nor based in christian morality.

The bible seems to be very clear that you are to keep the law and do not sin because he who stays in sin is of the devil, in fact we are given an example of one guy who keeps blaspheming and is given to satan.

But of course, you want to convince people this religion is some magic of merely believing because in the end you know very well your religion doesn't save: it sends you straight into the hands of a demonic god.

Case in point: Blasphemy of the holy spirit, we can read in the bible it's an unpardonable sin. That's final, you commit this sin, you are not ok with this god forever, so you'd miss salvation if this religion offered any.

However if you do commit this sin constantly, christians don't seem to mind, they still want you to become a christian. This would not make any sense if this religion saved, you have forfeited your salvation with this sin, but since what it does, is put you under the power of a demonic god, they still preach it to you. It cannot make sense in any other way you try to reason it.

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Thank you for doing this, I came in here to do something similar but with way less effort. A few things though:
> that would have been before God gave Adam the breath of life
I hope you're not making an attempt at "Christian evolutionist" here

> God is Literally love and Justice
God is the creator of and above Love and Justice if I'm not mistaken but I know what you mean

>But of course, you want to convince people this religion is some magic of merely believing
I’m not a Protestant.
>Blasphemy of the holy spirit
The Fathers are clear that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not an “unforgivable sin”; nor does Jesus ever call this sin “unforgivable.” St. John Chrysostom teaches that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit would be forgivable if a person were to repent of it. Jesus makes this declaration knowing that those who blaspheme the Spirit are calling pure, divine goodness “evil,” and are beyond repentance by their own choice.

Lalalalala~

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is there a story about a god that is seen bad but morally is right no matter how you look at it or is it redundant?

>I hope you're not making an attempt at "Christian evolutionist" here
No. The breath of life is the gift of a soul. Animals are purely material. Angels are purely spiritual. Only Humanity (and God) have the trait of being both material and spiritual.

St Paul the apostle commands that we keep all instructions "both written and unwritten". The Bible can't interpret itself, it needs an unbroken line of carriers of the living tradition behind it. The Bible didn't even exist as a singular body for over 300 years.

>The Fathers are clear that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not an “unforgivable sin

Translation:
>some people that are not jesus say something different to jesus

>nor does Jesus ever call this sin “unforgivable.”
Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.”
>Literally telling lies like the demon worshipper you are.

Because the Japanese have a somewhat contentious history with Christianity and a very complicated history with imperialism.

Fighting this fuck in NG+ was the hypest fucking thing.

god is not a good person. god treats his friends like shit.

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this

Orthodox Christians follow the holy traditions and laws.

You’re not paying attention. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is blasphemy against the divine activity of the Spirit, blasphemy against pure goodness. A sin against the Son of Man is more easily forgiven because the Jews did not know much about Christ. But blasphemy against the Spirit, whose divine activity they knew from the OT, will not be forgiven because it comes from a willful hardness of heart and a refusal to accept God's mercy.

>Let me tell some more lies and try to give this a different convoluted meaning to cause confusion

You know user, we have a name for people who try to use confusing words and lies to get at your soul.

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pedophiles are evil

that was very polite.

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Why assume Christianity?
Japan has it's only major religion with it's own major god figures.
It's also been subject to more than just Christianity over the years.
Hell the fact that the gods even have a active role should somewhat exclude a christian god since he's used to taking back seat in the new testament.

>You know user, we have a name for people who try to use confusing words and lies to get at your soul.
They are called Heretics. I am aware of such people. You seem to have a similar background if you are reading bibles like a modernist like them.

>Ancient Christians committed genocide by exterminating pagans, outlawing them, destroying their temples, barring them from higher offices, and appropriating their holidays and turning their gods into saints or the cult of Mary.
>Japan gets Jesuits who try to subvert the population, to get them to revolt and hate the Gods of their ancestors.
Japan was based for minimizing Christian influence, and preserving the religion of their ancestors.

A good God doesn't make for a compelling conflict. A neutral God may as well not exist for the purposes of the story. Only an evil God has any worth in a video game.

> committed genocide
name names
> outlawed them
based
> destroyed their temples
goodbye demon worship
> barring them from higher offices
You're a traditionalist who has a problem with this? How about Jews?
> Jesuits
Roman Catholicism is a heresy that split off officially in 1054

Decidingly NOT based.

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we should nuke god

ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

Who is Christina?

It's cool as fuck.

I went to school with her. I don't blame them.

>Genocide is a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group.

Constantius II was the first to institute major anti pagan laws, other Roman Emperors followed suit. Jeauits are Christians....nice try with the goalpost moving. Don't even tell me KJV is the true bible either...the Septuagint is just as corrupted as the Vulgate.
>How about Jews?
They're a genius race for making you hate the Gods of your ancestors and worship a kike on a stick.

The triforce goddesses

This. They're constantly trying to put in anti-Christian memes, but they still can't get away from how interesting it is

In hindu religion, devotees claim they have sex with their gods. Do you think these nips have found a vein of gold?

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in dragon quest 11 you visit cathedrals and shrines to save, i think its pretty neat.

>go to videogame board
>a homosexual creates a thread about gods in vidya and starts preaching christianity

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

I've seen a few of these pics, and a lot of them are worshiping Kotori. Why is that? What power does this bird hold over those fags?

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Most people are simply too stupid to understand that God not granting their wishes non stop and serving them doesn't mean He is evil.

>moder atheism which equals thinly veiled satanism and nature worship...

Atheism doesn't have shit to do with either of those things, what the fuck are you on about?

Atheism has devolved into pretentious counter culture. Anyone with a brain can see that.

>genetic defects
>gigantic world disasters
>horrible diseases
All of these come from an imperfect design mechanic. Therefore your god is not perfect, the fact that he also doesn't help people in horrendous situations with the shitty excuse of free will pretty much makes the gnostic theory a reality.

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Is there anything cringier than that amazing atheist faggot? Is he even still around?

Earth is not supposed to be perfect. A perfect life waits in heaven.
I'm not even a christfag I and I know this, it's at the core of how their God can be good but suffering can exist.

>good
>makes you gay and sends you to eternal torment for it

dis nigga kan suck the skin off

is hargon always the villain in dragon quests?
I'm playing builders 2 (my first dragon quest game ever), haven't finished it yet but looks like he's the main villain from what the monsters are talking about

The Hierarchy of Laguna is more or less pro-angel propaganda.

Blessed thread. But there's a distinct lack of St. Mel.
Mel, forgive me for phoneposting

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Reminder god can be beaten by iron chariots.

The perfect life in heaven is just singing gods praises without end according to the bible.

looks like its biting the others sack
probably why they drew it on a wall