Objectification isn't the same as sexualization. Women being motorcycles is literally objectification, but "winning the girl" could be language considered objectifying depending on the context.
Attraction isn't the same as sexualization. Chris Redfield can be attractive without him needing to wear a swimsuit. Elena can be attractive in a buttoned up blouse and pants.
Quite a few men don't understand pointing to attractive or sexualized male characters misses the point because the actual problem is the rampant amount of objectified female characters.
Characters don't control their design. That's made by an artist and edited by plenty of people throughout the development process. A woman didn't don a tube top in a zombie outbreak; that was a decision by a person(s).
Characters don't control their motivations / dialogue / writing. See above.
Framing can mean everything. Bayonetta may be awesome or Tifa a cool character but camera shots zooming in on crotches, boobs, or butts at "opportune" times reminds the viewer of the studio / publisher's true intent and is objectification.
Armor should actually protect you. Anything less is a red flag (some liberties for fantasy elements / design allowed).
Objectification isn't the same as sexualization. Women being motorcycles is literally objectification...
Women are born to be bread
I want to enslave cammy
Because of people like you the industry is going to shit, stfu you weren't even going to play the games anyway.
What kind? Rye or white?
didnt read
pointless goal
your running in circles
only clicked for cammie
lol
same, but OP probably wanted a waifu dump anyway so Im not gonna post an image.
I wan't her to lock me in place with her thighs and breed relentlessly with my penis.
>Sex sells
Jezz, I wonder why. Us, human are good pattern recognition. thus we are obsessed with perfection. Video games offer that.
If I want to look at ugly people, I can just go outside.
So?
When you see someone purely through a sexual lense rather than their personality, traits, goals and speech you are objectifying them.
I wonder what they have in store
Any retard asking for armor in a street fighting game where everyone just wears their street clothes is a fucking retard and that's a huge red flag that they don't give a shit about what they are crying about.
>no fun allowed
Why are you people so miserable?
I know this is bait, but i'm tired of this cold pissing, joyless line of 'thought'.
It's condescending as fuck to interpret some innocent, fun eroticism as a conspiracy to lessen women. It's downright scornful and stupid to imply that men can't see the difference between fantasy and reality.
In other words, go fuck yourself.
Resetera/Reddit fags
feminists: "women need to be sexually liberated because they've been oppressed for years. #burnthebra"
also feminists: "put a burka on that anime girl."
Hey man, if it wasn't for double standards...
Fuck off, I want characters to be fuckable and you won't stop me.
It's not a gender thing, it's not objectification, I just want good looking characters.
Just fucking enjoy the tits and butts, you fag
An object is anything that ocupy a place on space
by definition all women are objects, as every other human on earth.
videogame characters cant be objects, they can only be concepts( "lol you can make a 3D figure of it" that would be a figure of it, not the real character)
I'd be more on board with this if the people who cry objectification had any aesthetic taste whatsoever. It seems to come part and parcel with an obsession with realism, which is code for "I have literally no opinion beyond comparing it to real life"
Sexualization is a personal matter, it occurs inside your mind. In that pic for ex, that's just Cammy looked from behind, some people might sexualize her, some others might not.
There's nothing wrong about sexualizing characters, we are a sexual species after all. The only problem are the people behaving like puritans from the Dark Ages, they are who are in the wrong.
>fictional violence doesn't matter, people can't be influenced by a game
>fanservice doesn't lesson women it's just a game, it doesn't infer anything
>me liking this 11 year old girl doesn't mean anything she's not real
>look at this disgusting liberal propaganda of a female main character, this is just yet another example of how society is attempting to undermine masculinity
>pozzed ass trans shit meant to brainwash people into accepting these freaks
>look at these fucking niggers in a historical setting this is proof of a white genocidal agenda
I believe all of those things and my steam library currently contains 486 games. You can comfort yourself with that lie all you like, it's nothing but brainless parroting of a talking point.
> a game that conforms to the status quo is not a political statement and therefore nobody should take offense
> a game that fails to conform to the status quo is a political statement so people take offense
Fixed.
You want to know why female protagonists incite anger and sexualization doesn't?
Because the things you want in games are political statements and the things we want in games aren't.
Bran
[THIS IS WHAT RETARDS ACTUALLY BELIEVE]
Rye obviously
Women being granted rights is historically the cause of every society's downfall.
Mooslams know this and subsequently beat and rape them. Sadly they're not good enough at anything else to make an example for the rest of the world.
>finding 11 year old anime characters attractive is the status quo
>hating minorities and women is the status quo
Based Gamer post.
based retarded faggot
>conforming to the status quo is not a political statement
But that's wrong, dipshit
> Fictional violence is a necessary framing device for a huge number of enjoyable genres
> Fanservice is hot and doesn't hold any bearing on real world women inherently
> Loli doesn't victimize or represent real children so it means nothing
> Female main characters that get complained about are universally "muh strong womyn" types with absolutely no character beyond being a political statement
> Trans main characters are always, always, ALWAYS forced, get over it
> Forcing black people into random historical contexts is a political statement
I'll never understanding talking about objectification of literal fictional characters designed sorely for entertainment. They don't have thoughts, feelings, agency or goals.
>me see big titty feudal era ninja assassin me happy
>me see small titty female soldier no happy political
>me see nigger no happy political
what do you do with the fish you catch, anyway?
the game with the big titty ninjas don't claim to be historically accurate
the game with female soldiers in world wars do
The amazing historical accuracy of gears of war
Dilate resetranny
> big titty feudal era ninja assassin isn't meant to be realistic and was made by devs who just liked making a girl with big tits
> small titty female soldier is meant to be realistic and was made out of hate for everyone right of Stalin rather than love for their product
This
Women are literal sex objects.
>Women being motorcycles
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
>No one in tech is liberal, disregard that the tech industry boomed alongside the 60s and 70s and is notorious for being filled with some of the most out there and radical lefties, all these game designers are being forced by (((them))) at gunpoint to include all this liberal shit when theyre really all based and redpilled basement dwellers like me
> no one in tech is liberal
Show me where I said that, user.
All I said was that a lot of the good shit came from people who liked what they were doing and the bad shit came from people who hated the people the social statement was made against.
Nope
Peach in early Mario games is an example of objectification. The reason why is because Peach could have easily been replaced with an object and the game would functionally be the same. Bowser could have just stolen an artifact and the game would be near identical, Peach in the early Mario games is nearly indistinguishable from a Macguffin in terms of her actual role in the game.
>they only love what they're doing if I agreed with it!
>Me mindreader
>Me rationalize the fact that I masturbate to big tit women by pretending that I know the thoughts and intentions of the developer and artists more than they do
Show me where I said that, user.
> I have to rationalize that I jerk off to attractive women
I've never said this before, but I think you need to go dilate.
No, you have to rationalize that you have a point that is anything more than “can I masturbate to it? Then it’s good. If I can’t then it’s bad”
So whats the Yea Forumserdict on SFV?
>I'm unable to tell if Ninja Gaiden is meant to be historically accurate
>haha I only blatently positioned myself to making that statement, and never outright typed those exact words, checkmate lib why don't you assume more? btw female soldiers are only being put in games because artists are forced to by the demands of groups who want to exterminate white males
>I will say it’s okay for Ninja Gaiden to have big tit women because it isn’t historically accurate
>Bur I’ll pretend that a game like Uncharted that has a female soldier is trying to be realistic, even though it’s obviously an Indiana Jones simulator with fucking magic and highly improbable action stunts
I don't use "can I masturbate to it?" as a metric for every game, but people who make female characters with the express purpose of owning men who want to jerk off to female characters are fucking pathetic and people who make female characters you CAN jerk off to are based.
That's that.
I didn't type anything like those words, seethe harder.
Decent game with the misfortune of launching like actual hot dog shit. Wait for a sale and buy it with most of the season passes, use Fight Money to unlock the last couple characters.
>now I'm willing to say being revived by a defib after getting shot in the head, using a power tool to repair a tank, doing loop the loops in jet fighters on a battlefield, capping points by standing in them for the right amount of time, using ww2 prototype weapons in ww1, jumping off buildings as they fall down and bei g ok because I threw myself a medic bag on the ground and throwing sensoray nerf balls is an extension of reality necessary to make a game, but I'll be goddamned if there's a female character model
God dammit, you read my blog post about the female soldiers in Uncharted?
Gonna need a sauce on that senpai~
Artist's name is Yakou.
>I played Battlefield games after BC2
Bad look, mate
how is this a problem, and also, what the fuck, man?
> all that shit is kept in because it's fun and makes the game more enjoyable to an audience that matters
> female character models are added to piss off le PATRIARCHY and appease people who don't play video games
Check and mate.
preach it
>how dare you attempt to appeal to someone besides myself! This is genocide! also it's about historical accuracy I think!
>female models are added to give more customization options in a multiplayer focused game
Damn, those evil Commies!
Pixiv or booru? Not finding the same person
> how dare you imply that your demographic is the main audience of video games, you sexist racist transphobic white male!
> ignore the actual statistics and keep letting developers pander to feminists who'll praise their games then let them fail because oops, feminists don't play games!
Shit, I dunno. Their gallery's on e-hentai.
>As a straight white male I absolutely refuse to play this video game that offers both a male and female character option
>why are you calling me a shut in neckbeard loser incel?
> As a queer ally gay genderflexual attack helicopter I absolutely refuse to play this video game that has boobs
> Oh, they removed the boobs? Still not playing it, never mind
I play games with female character options when they're not retarded political statements.
Isn’t this basically identity politics?
>I’m straight and I’m white and we’re the majority so you should make all the models after me!
No? Because the reason I mentioned demographics was to say that games should APPEAL to the main gamer demographic, not that they should only include people who fit within it.
The main gamer demographic is more than fine with black, gay, and female characters, just not when they're done in a retarded way.
Making every character a white heterosexual male is absolutely not a political statement unlike any other type of character, it's the default way of life after all
I can't wait to hear all the reasons as to why a female character model in a multiplayer game is retarded.
Reminder you already handwaved "historical accuracy"
this but unironically
alright, I think I'm starting to see the appeal
I didn't say that. If every character is a straight white male the world is boring and you can just smell that it's a political statement.
> female character model in multiplayer game
Not retarded!
> female character model in multiplayer game
> developers say "sexists get out" preemptively as if the only reason people would object to this is sexism
> developers claim everyone with any problem with their game is a sexist racist
Retarded!
It's that simple, user.
uhm, never mind
Games should just be whatever the dev deems fitting. None of it is real. The sex or the violence. Get over it.
women are property
Ahh that made it much easier. Thanks~
And an offering in exchange
So what exactly is the problem with q female character in a multiplayer game if you're not a sexist. You seem upset the developer called your bluff
>but "winning the girl" could be language considered objectifying depending on the context
And?
I never had an issue with it. I only developed an issue with it when the developers started calling their entire existing fanbase sexist. When people whose games have relatively serious tones in their story, if not their gameplay, start inserting unfitting characters for diversity points, it generally comes along with total retardation like that.
who the fuck cares, let the artists make the art they want, the fucker that designed cammy wanted her to have a hotass unitard so he gave her one
huh, guess you were right about peach after all
dude, look at this, you could've prevented this
you could have stopped it
trigger warning - this is a bad one
McFucking Kill Yourself, faggola
I honestly would like to bury my tongue in that ass right now.
now that we've been in this world for years, how hilarious is it that random literally whos spouted shit like this with an authoritative tone, and retards and women just lapped it all up?
>what's your credentials fgt?
>"excuse me shitlord I have a gender studies degree, so I automatically have the same authority over everything in this domain the same way a DDS is the authority on teeth, educate yourself"
Entered this thread expecting lots of cammyposting.
I'm really sad.
I can't tell if you're pro or anti fictional titties and ass. If you disagree with the first three you disagree with the rest, if you agree with the first three you agree with the rest. I don't get what point you were making.
Okabe and Mayushi?
>bumping
and yes
Never mind it's Okabe and Kurisu cause I just saw the tie, and she ate pudding a lot in the anime/VN.
real big brain here
Every "good female character" whether you ask Yea Forums, Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, or Resetera all embody masculine traits or ideals anyways so the whole discussion is pointless. Yes Yea Forums, a pure maiden with strong convictions and burning passion for a man who embodies truth and justice is a male fantasy, an unattainable ideal. She's nothing like a real woman. And for the other side, Gears 5 lady being brash and violent is also masculine even if she does base it on her feelings.
All you need to accept is that one group thinks female characters should be beautiful, and the other thinks that they shouldn't be. Both are equally masculine so who cares, no one likes real women and we all agree we should never represent them in games.
fuq OP's gay ass shit post your fighters.
female soldiers are a fantasy.
Sauce
No one likes ugly shit.
Faggots don't put in ugly characters cause they like it, they do it out of spite.
Chicks wear arguably less in public these days.