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Different directors want to use the same medium, videogames, differently.
It's very common in all media to have people with different views that can coexist without problems.
Dark Souls is more about the gameplay, and overcoming the challenge is a great part of the experience.
In Kojima's games the game is a way for him to tell a story, he wanted to be a film director after all, so if you think about if different difficulty selections make more sense in Kojima's games over the Dark Souls series.
I still think the Dark Souls series could accommodate some level of difficulty selection, but that's another topic.
Did you think you were making a point or something?
kojima doesnt know what the fuck he's doing and doesn't have a formula beyond bombard the viewer with cutscenes and story dump info sections
Kojima fckbois BTFO'ed
yeah he was thinking something
you should try it
>About Bayonetta's design, this was something that Kamiya-san really pushed for, I think it is just because he likes girls with glasses.
Ok?
Miyazaki games aren't nearly as challenging as Kojima's on max difficulty. Git gud.
>In Kojima's games the game is a way for him to tell a story
That was valid for Kojima's Metal Gear era, but not for whatever it is he's working on now. Not even Kojima knows what he's doing these days.
Beyond that point, games are meant to be played. They aren't movies. If you neglect the gameplay for the sake of the story, you are insulting the integrity of the medium. If Kojima is so dedicated to telling a story, then he should just make theatrical movies.
>Talentless Hackojima
>one hit wonder
>demands exorbitant budget
>almost bankrupted his company
>gets his inspiration from movies
>attention whore
>Hidetaka Miyazaki
>made FOUR IPs that revolutionized the industry in just 10 years
>works for peanuts
>transformed his company from an unknown niche Japanese studio to one of the best and most respected studios in the industry
>gets his inspiration from books
>introvert that doesn't even have social media presence
Nah Kojima is based
>"we added Very Easy Mode for movie fans"
Why is everyone acting like this is a new thing? He's been doing this shit for decades.
True that. REAL mgs starts only on EE
now that's just retarded, I'm pretty sure you enjoy not starving, not freezing and having infinite amounts of entertainment granted to you just on the basis of being born in modern times in an affluent society, you don't really mind that you don't have to struggle every day so obviously if you have any human empathy you want other people to experience the same thing and not suffer
You want to create feud between this two. I'm not your meme soldier, I love them both. Now make me a rimjob.
>normally there's only easy mode
Does he have amnesia? All the MGS games I remember play had "very easy." I was young and stupid, unable to play games, so I always played on that mode.
>revolutionized the industry
You're fucking retarded
Kojima is Japanese in genetics only. Dude sucks off western devs and actors so much these days. MGSV was basically him trying to ruin MGS and turn it into GTA
“The glasses never come off”
not enough cutscenes on the right
Epic meme but here's the real map.
>makes a journalist mode so his game doesn't get panned
>still means that there's a good game for fans of actually playing games and non-faggots
>not having to balance your game to please absolute chodes and your actual fanbase alike
makes sense to me
Normally as in bad games (non-kojima)
??
why is this image just a reskinned version of the Doom one?
>So we want everyone to first face that challenge and to overcome it in some way that suits them as a player
That makes sense in the RPGs Miyazaki makes. If you find something too hard you can just go level and shit or try another area. Kojima typically makes action games where you can't just go grind or find items to increase your HP or cheese a boss with co-op. And the two games Kojima has made where you can actually upgrade your equipment have no difficulty options.
>Open world = GTA
>Doing nothing but shitting on the West in all of his games = Western
>I'm pretty sure you enjoy not starving, not freezing and having infinite amounts of entertainment granted to you just on the basis of being born in modern times in an affluent society
I feel envious of my ancestors that they know how to live off the land. Knew how to hunt and farm, that's a self-sufficiency beyond anything modern society can give you.
>Waawawawawawaa
The post
>shitting on the West
He shits on the U.S. government but love Hollywood, which is just the propaganda arm of the U.S. government.
How the guy who made MGS2 doesn't see that is beyond me. I bet he didn't even write MGS2. Someone else wrote it for him. He doesn't even know what MGS2 is about.
Hacks like Kojima are the cancer killing video games, quit trying to turn video games into movies just because you failed to become a director and make actual movies doesn't mean you should ruin video games with your cinematic bullshit.
>DS 3 invasion mechanics
>Not very easy mode for hosts
Sure.
Certain difficulties only exist in American/European releases, because Kojima is a madlad. Japan's easy mode is probably comparable to normal or even hard mode in America.
no you don't, fucking larping faggot, you fucking whined all through sports day to go home and play video games
>hurhur you should let people suffer and struggle ;)
>says the middle class guy living in a first world country
l m a o
>Kojima
>thinks he's a movie director
>makes hours of shitty cutscenes
>in the end, everyone skips them after one playthrough
>gameplay is an afterthought
>uses movie actors because he wants to meet actually famous people. They dont care about him or the game
>Miyazaki
>average cutscene is 30 seconds, always genuine kino
>players watch them every time
>gameplay is the only thing that matters, everything else is the artist's playground
>doesn't give a fuck about the story, gives major plot info in notes on the ground
>repurposes cut bosses and areas because they're cool, even if it makes no sense
>uses literal whos from the UK in every game, characters don't even move their mouths, everyone remembers the NPCs anyway
I mean I think easy modes are shit, but Kojima used to do some interesting stuff with difficulties. I don't always want to play European Extreme but its a nice to have that hard coded in when I want to do that sort of challenge run.
I just want some gameplay for Elden Ring already. I wanna see how Miyazaki is gonna make this interesting.
I was gonna disagree with you, but then I remembered how the new Jack Ryan show trailer is basically propaganda to get people used to the idea of a war in Venezuela.
So yeah, mostly true.
>cinematic
>walking
>simulator
NOOO, YOU CAN'T USE VIDEOGAMES TO TELL STORIES
left is a doom map you mongoloid
each approach is valid for the reasons they state.
Kojima made a movie game (which he's been tending toward for years), so he gave it a movie difficulty. The player learning anything to overcome an obstacle is not important to him or to understanding his work. That's fine, but it'd really suck if it's all there was.
Nope. Eat a dick. There's a shit ton of variety out there. Go buy an Atari and post on /vr/ if you're going to pretend gameplay is the only aspect that means anything to you. But we all know you're just a bitter shitposter.
>#FUCKONAMI
Only if it means they don't fall dependent on me keeping them from suffering. If that happens we're both worse off when I can't keep doing that
you're dependent on a lot of people keeping you from suffering, if plumbers wouldn't be able to keep doing what they do you'd literally drown in your shit
get over yourself
>someone else wrote it for him
>real actors
Lol. What do VAs think about this?
>using fucking emoji’s to send a message as an almost 60 year old man
>overcome it in some that suits them as a player
Using cheap methods or items.
>muh fukushima, the literal who codec writer and programmer
God I fucking hate poor people like you
high-tier bait
Both overrated hacks and fraud
neither of us are poor, we have internet and we're fucking around on a board about video games, the difference is that you're a retard, and somehow you think you earned anything by being born in the right place at the right time
Dark Souls already has an easy mode, it's called summoning.
NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUN ONLY THE WAY I SAY YOU SHOULD
>leaves after 3
>writing quality mysteriously plummets for all following games
Fuck off Zoomer no one wants to pay $60 to watch a fucking movie.
I hate you retards who insist on tying video games to real life.
There are no real-world stakes to video games. You won't die from not beating a video game. You won't suffer. It's just entertainment.
All you people trying to connect entertainment to real-world problems ARE part of the problem. Instead of focusing on actual policies to help people, you trot out half-baked ideologies that only exist to make you angry on Twitter. Fuck off.
I earned being able to laugh at poor cucks.
If you think the term "Down on your luck" applies to retarded faggots that made the wrong choices for 30 years straight you're truly deluded.
>coincidence
>kojima obviously not wanting to make any more metal gear games after 3
If you don't believe that, then you only get your information from larpers on this board and do no actual research of your own.
Actually, that would explain why you believe the fukushima meme.
Not true. There was next to zero story or cutscenes in MGSV
the picture was talking about some overarching morals and not video games in particular
also reddit spacing
the "retards who made wrong choices" still live million times better than some starving african kid in a wartorn country, because just by living in a society like this spares you from huge amounts of suffering
and even then it's for your benefit as well that those people get treated and not suffer or they might just stab you in a parking lot or shoot up a school where your kid is having lunch
this "people need to suffer LOL XD" is a retarded edgy mindset that will always just backfire because it'll create more suffering and that will affect you as well
Games wouldn’t be fun if they were all the same.
>somehow you think you earned anything
he wasn't implying that at all, you inferred his entire personality from the quote of some star wars game he posted. it's literally avellone fedora-core, but it's not that far off base since charity is an enormous waste of time and non-profits/volunteer organizations are so poorly managed they really don't end up helping anyone other than the 17-25 year olds that want to put something on their resume
>reddit spacing
Dumb newfag
There is no "Yea Forums format"
I can space
however
the fuck
I want
and you
can't
do
shit
about
it
>D....dark souls didn't start a revolution you guys!
Hey man I don't give a shit you crying reddit commie faggot
>thumbs up gay crab sweaty\
???
Both sides of that "argument" are massively retarded.
>Unfinished game
hideo >>>>>> kojima
I wish not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders.
charities are money laundering schemes more often than not, but just the fact that you have clean drinking water and electricity shows that you're being spared from a lot of suffering, I don't think it would improve you as a person if you were starving and cold, and it doesn't improve anyone ever
cry more redditboy
>being a cunt isn't helpful, you're being shown a lot of generosity from other people so it's better if you show generosity to your fellow humans as well
>HURDURR COMMIE
why are americans like this
you wish for games you want that you can pirate for free, larping faggot
It's a Proverb, dummy.
so larp
Cinematic, story-centered game with good gameplay to keep players engaged
vs.
Atmospheric, gameplay-based game with optional story elements and a PVP element
Sounds fine. They're two different genres.
Kojima games have almost always had difficulty settings, anyway.
And Miyazaki may have said this, but Fromsoft lowered the difficulty for all three dark souls games via a patch soon after launch. I think they did it with Sekiro too, but I could be wrong.
"y no ppl just hand stuff out for free? y americans no just giv stuff to my rathole shit country!?"
Hey man, pretending you do good deeds to be altruistic and not because you feel the need to project this moral high ground on people that live comfortably makes you look like a know it all prick.
And you know what people do when they meet a know it all prick? Do the opposite of what they say.
I don't give a shit about your "karma" bro, suck a cock
>people can't live by quotes, proverbs, mantras, etc. without being a larper
I suppose you think people who follow religion are larping morons, too.
Silent Hill 2 had a difficulty level where you could only die to PH.
I didn't know that and I still loved the game.
there are plenty of entrepreneurs that grew up dirt poor, were raised by abusive parent(s) and still managed to educate and/or train themselves to go on to establish their fortunes doing whatever they're famous for. not all of them were always there
oprah winfrey was bounced between multiple parental figures, sexually molested and poor as shit but still managed to do well in pre-secondary school, earned a scholarship and found a job working in local news media before she got her big break. it's almost as if persistence, timing, and seeking opportunities instead of relying on social assistance yields the big rewards. "right time, right place"
but i'm not surprised someone who attributes this to being an american thing has the views you do. if your ancestors had any sense, they'd have migrated with the other go-getters and you wouldn't be swimming in refugees today that your government has mandated you bend over backwards for
>if your ancestors had any sense, they'd have migrated with the other go-getters and you wouldn't be swimming in refugees today that your government has mandated you bend over backwards for
Holy fuck, rest of the world, OBLITERATED
That's the equivalent of me saying someone isn't a true communist because they shop at wholefoods and own an iphone
>harvest ingredients
Haha, holy shit, what a fucking retard. Medicine is basically free to produce. The massive prices are due to protected copyrights and justified by the research efforts to come up with the recipe in the first place.
I mean, it's not like someone not knowing exactly how medicine is made really invalidates his point.
cool strawman, all I said is that suffering doesn't improve the life of anyone, your life wouldn't be better if you were suffering, so putting suffering on a moral pedestal is retarded
at the end of the day you act like a cunt because you're scared that you could lose your comfortable life and you'd have to suffer, you'd literally do anything in your power to not suffer, so it would be quite the hypocrisy for you to say that suffering is good
of course they are
because there was a society that allowed them to do that, try getting education or train yourself in 200 bc syria
same thing, oprah lives in a first world country, not in wartorn africa so she was able to do that
if my ancestors thought that suffering is awesome they wouldn't have created a society that spares me from suffering, again if you put suffering on a pedestal you're a retard
what's with americans and shitty strawmans, suffering is shit, factually provable that it's shit and doesn't improve anyone's lives, stop being an edgy retarded teenager
You know what I do when I'm suffering?
I find the cause and I stomp it out.
Sorry some poorfag retards in some reject countries can't do simple "cause and effect" exercises in their head
>I don't think it would improve you as a person if you were starving and cold, and it doesn't improve anyone ever
>strawman
you're confused, son
Rofl the guy made some of the greatest games to exist, he is one of the few saving graces of the entire hobby.
cry more newfag
have some more spaces
Why can you stupid faggots never talk in concrete terms?
Furthermore just because a philosophy works well in a video game (which in almost all cases are based on fair competitions with universally enforced rules) does not at all mean it works in real life. When I listen to you morons talk about how "media really teaches us about real life" I fucking cringe.
Points that don't exist in the real world are worthless.
>strawman
>preprceives the character of the posters based on their political opinions
Do you not see the hypocracy here?
you're not wrong, but you're also only defending it because It's Okay When Kojima Does It.
What are you even saying? Dark Souls isn't even the first souls game.
Shut up faggot
If anything its because we have the modern comforts of society that we are more self centered. Those who have less then us tend to have more skills, unless of course they are a burnout, just unbelievably stupid, or a drug addict.
I will say though that homeless people in major cities are in a awful place though.
>Need to live in the city for a influx of handouts
>City treats you like shit because your a literal leach or a victim of misfortune
>Can never leave the city to live off the land because you lack the skills to do so or land locked by other urban cities.
>the same level of enjoyment
A flawed argument. People of different skill will have different experiences and different enjoyment.
>we don't want to include a difficulty selection to let everyone have the same experience
>includes unrestricted summoning which breaks the game and makes it so you don't have to do shit as your two butt buddies rape everything because the retarded AI wasn't made to accommodate multiple players despite there being 6 games
It sure as hell wasn't Demon's Souls that did it.
based kamiya
Call me when either of those talentless hacks stops being one trick ponies.
>(((Druckmann))) does it
>NOOOOOOOOO CULTUR MARXISM SJW RESTERA LEFTIES LIBTARD WESTRERN DEV BAD
>Kojima does it
>i-i-i-it's ok when Kojima-sama d-does it
you're not suffering, if you were suffering you wouldn't be literate, have an internet connections, have luxury products and food
being a virgin is not "suffering"
not really
hmm no, it's because you have these comforts and you're constantly told that you could easily lose these comforts by propagandists, so you become very self centered and you'd rather mow down children than lose your comforts
and I'm not saying that that's a necessarily wrong thing, that's a very natural human reaction but it does show that suffering is shit and you'd forego all your morals to spare yourself from suffering
literally no basedboy says this. a basedboy would be all about "accesibility" and "inclusivity", you fucking basedboy.
don't bother replying to theiffag, he's asshurt no one likes PC (aka shit) games
I am suffering
Not a virgin though, your mother saw to that.
>Konami
>bankrupt
>when Konami is worth 250 billion dollars
And considering you think company = studio, I don think you know what a company is.
>Souls
>Bloodborne
>Sekiro
>one trick pony
Miyazaki is unironically a genius.
I skip all cutscenes in all videogames. The presence of cutscenes in videogames is a failure in and of itself.
all those games have the same base design
>Demons Souls 2
>Demons Souls: Eldritch edition
>Demons Souls: Japan
Really nigga?
based retard vs based god
hmm no, you're just a bit whingey, you never experienced suffering in your life
KOJIMA IS A FUCKING HACK FRAUD! FUCK DEATH STRANDING, KONAMI WAS RIGHT TO KICK HIM OUT!
Yes, it does. It's cheap as dirt to produce life saving medicine. There's nothing stopping us from just producing that medicine, other than an "obligation" to let the company that owns the patent earn loadsamoney.
>>uses literal whos from the UK in every game, characters don't even move their mouths, everyone remembers the NPCs anyway
this is nice
The fact I'm putting up with you proves you incorrect
Difficulty Select:
Very Easy
>MUH CRINGE, MUH MOVIE GAME, OH NO NO NO
Difficulty Select:
Games Journalist
>BASED KEK
This is the Gameboy MGS. I'm a professional. You can't fool me old man
casuals need to fuck off
>that's a very natural human reaction but it does show that suffering is shit and you'd forego all your morals to spare yourself from suffering
Morality is a subjective construct, laws try to objectify them but when it comes to whether I have to eat or little billy 400 milles away has to eat that dude is probably gonna starve.
Would you kindly give me a example of propagandists threatening to take a away my comforts within the last 15 years. Not trying to attack you but I am genuinely curious thankyou.
Also *ahem* FUCK *ahem* Nofx.
>MGS
>ever having good writing
Its hilarious how MGS drones will defend the shitty movies that the first MGS turds were to death.
Whats more hilarious is that lately MGS fags have been larping about how they care about gameplay, and yet all they take into consideration when ranking MGS, and all they ever talk about is le epic story of le epic bandana man.
Funny, because Yea Forums shat on MGSV for not being a movie about Big Boss murdering children. The fact that anyone takes seriously the story of a character calles Big Boss is embarassing.
Bro he hid his cigarettes in his stomach
Imagine being this angry people like things, yikes...
Sounds like you're obsessed with Kojima and his fans.
Codecs are 90 percent of the dialogue in MGS.
They're objectively and mechanically very different than each other.
Fuck off to resetera, trannies.
Because MGS drones are the most hypocritical fanboys ever.
They claim to want gameplay, even though they shit on MGSV and praise MGS1, 2 and 3 even though these are unironic movies with the worst stealth mechanics ever seen in the genre.
They can larp all they want, in the end all they care about is about the shitty plot.
>JJ Abrams Vs David Lynch
>The mainstream Vs The auteur
Kojima is a hack.
>Le swing sword le parry le dodge
>Mechanically different.
cringe
>thinks he wrote all of the codec dialogue and not 5 actual dialogues that are extremely out of the way and 10 that are just gameplay help or a few words long
>there's no more sweet and sour sauce for my tendies!?!?!
>this is true suffering
>now I know what those war orphans in the hundred year's war felt
so morality is just relative to the chance of suffering, and the higher the chance is the lower goes your morality, because suffering sucks and preventing it takes priority over anything else
what 15 years, scroll up the thread to see the guy talking about refugees destroying my country and killing me or whatever, it's the entire current political climate "x is coming to take your comfort!"
also reddit spacing
Trannies love japanese videogames, though.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH
If those orphans were smart they'd open some sort of high risk investments since they live in a shithole anyway
maybe they would be smart if they had education, you know, something that modern societies provide
>having swords makes them the same
Idiot.
Resetera trannies LOVE Kojima.
True, which is why they're retarded and deserve to die in a dirt ditch
Unfinished or not it will be judged since it was released.
That doesnt change anything. Kojima himself said that MGSV having no plot was done on purpose.
And I agree with him, plot has no place in videogames.
No they dont, they think Kojima is sexist. Hell, Yea Forums goes full SJW just to shit on MGSV going
>UMMMM WHY IS QUITE SO SEXUALIZED LIKE HELLO???? ITS 2019
>People still crying about the plot of a fucking PREQUEL
WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ALREADY YOU AUTISTIC SPERG
>revolutionized the industry
Kill yourself, retard
I got nothing against a journo easy mode as long as the review discloses it. Everyone deserves to critique from their perspective, beople need to realize that reviews made by a "I'm bad and games and I'm a lefty!" are like 90% of big sites and that their opinion is completely irrelevant to your average consumer.
>no difficulty options means everyone has the same challenge and enjoyment
Wrong
you wouldn't be smart if you didn't have education so you deserve to die in a dirt ditch then
>refugees destroying my country and killing me or whatever, it's the entire current political climate "x is coming to take your comfort!
That is just happening mate but if you see it as progress or as a good thing then sit back, relax and open a cold one.
>so morality is just relative to the chance of suffering, and the higher the chance is the lower goes your morality, because suffering sucks and preventing it takes priority over anything else
Yes. Unless you follow christian teachings that is.
I'd be smarter than you probly
>kino
Dark Souls plot is almost as pretentious as MGS.
>duude, vague dialogue in medieval era english...
Shut the fuck up, you fucking faggots.
FPBP, while not every game should have an easy mode, if the game is it works with the game I don't see a problem with them including it.
I see it as fearmongering propaganda, and it works because people are very scared of suffering
so again putting suffering on a pedestal is retarded, it's the last thing anyone ever wants
meh christians kill people if they feel that their comfort is threatened, they're just gonna look for loopholes and make up excuses anyways
you wouldn't be able to reply to me because you'd be illiterate
>you wouldn't be able to reply to me because you'd be illiterate
That's not at all what I put into contention
I don’t think Fukushima was a writing genius but he probably filtered out some of Kojima’s more retarded ideas and helped smooth things out in the scripts
Kojima losing interest combined with this is what resulted in the death of metal gear
>christians kill people if they feel that their comfort is threatened, they're just gonna look for loopholes and make up excuses anyways
That doesn't invalidate the teachings that just invalidates people in general.
>I see it as fearmongering propaganda, and it works because people are very scared of suffering
Do you welcome it?
The first playthrough in darksouls is EZ mode. If you want to play hard mode you need to clear it first and start new game +, then you can keep upping the difficulty if you like by clearing the last boss over and over
Metal Gear died because theres nowhere to go, MGS4 finished everything. Its just MGS drones are a bunch of kids who can't accept when things are over.
>IPs
ugh
We want good gameplay AND a good story
4 lacked both and 5 lacked the story(though the open world aspect also hurt the gameplay)
Is there any game that only allows you to play in maximum difficulty in the first playthrough?
oh my god ypu are seething ypu cuck
If you want plot, go watch a movie. Stroytelling in videogames is always tacked on in ways unrelated to what videogames are, often using techniques from other mediums like reading or cutscenes.
fucking snoy'd.
>there’s nowhere to go
Dark Souls is more mainstream than MGS you dumb fuck
>th-that's not what I meant
appearently you're not very good at banter either
I don't particularly care if it invalidates the teachings or not, matter of the fact is that people will do anything to avoid suffering, except for the few masochists
I don't give a shit either way, but it proves my argument, you shit your pants over refugees, or the chinese or the whatever that's supposedly coming to take your comfortable life because you're deadly scared of suffering
you can larp about how hurhur people in the past were so independent, living in forests and shit but at the moment of truth it turns out that you'd rather skin babies than have your life decrease in quality at all
what
If you just want gameplay play CoD or MOBA games.
A sequel to baby's first hack and slash?
This shit relied on the zandatsu gimmick due to how terrible the actual combat is.
>appearently you're not very good at banter either
I think you know exactly what I meant but what I said
Op wasn't thinking anything useful.
Meanwhile.
I think you're not very smart
They have different goals and design in mind.
Gameplay is something that must be the priority in all videogames. Theres no books where they dont focus in the writing, or movies where they dont focus on inagery. If a developer respects videogames as a medium, he will put gameplay ahead of anything else. One reason why multiplayer videogames are nowadays the best example of a videogame, while singleplayer videogames are falling behind focusing on plot and other pointless drivel.
Doesn't matter what you think nigga, I KNOW I'd still be able to whoop your brain's ass with no formal education.
>unknown niche Japanese studio
it wasnt/isnt in japan. its been actually a pretty well known studio. americucks were/are too casual to find their games "normal"
Post your source of him saying that. MGSV did have a story with cutscenes, it was just a fucking garbage one. To say it has no plot is delusional.
The best MGS story since 3 and the best villain cast since 1 with some excellent boss battles
Revengeance is the only good thing to come out of the series since 2004
/thread
Kojima got fired for being an incompetent fuck at making videogames, I think it's quite clear that you are wrong, VNs and """cinematic""" experiences belong to Yea Forums and Yea Forums.
fpbp
Kojima also knows how to make challenging games. Try MGS2 on European Extreme
no u
Metal Gear is one of the only series that actually uses the medium of videogames to help tell the story
None of these games would work as movies they can only be told this way
Ok, but people who are into dark souls don't have jobs, so who's the real winner here?
May the hair on his toes never fall out.
Kojima didnt get fired, its ilegal to fire people in japan. Its just Konami wanted to focus on phone games, which make far more money than console shit. All their franchises are dead anyway.
FpBp
There. And he made the right choice. MGSV is how all MGS games should jave treated the plot, just something happening in the background.
I couldnt care less about the plot of Metal Gear, and the boss fights, although flashy, didnt offer any challenge. Plus, the game lasts 3 hours.
what is this shitty strawman, suffering sucks ass, don't put it on a pedestal, you literally can't argue that, you'd literally rather kill people than suffer
>hack and slash has shit gameplay
>DUDE BUT LE EPIC STORY, LE EPIC SENATOR
Reminder that MGS drones do not like videogames.
You’re playing the wrong series
What’s the point of playing games like this is if you hate both the story and gameplay?
Seethe more faggot
Then just make a fucking movie
I hate any sort of game that focuses on the plot.
And, sadly, MGS is, or was, one of the few stealth franchises left, so I had to put up with it.
Its dead now, but im not really gonna miss it. Dozens of games and only two focused in the gameplay. Embarassing.
>not giving thanks to the people who came before you and built the infrastructure you currently inhabit
go to middle of nowhere africa then you ungrateful swine
kojima hasn't made a good game since mgs3. prove me wrong.
the shit are you saying, that's exactly what I say, you should be grateful for the people who built your society and maintain it, they do it so you don't have to suffer
because suffering is fucking horrible, it's not a thing to be admired and say that "suffering makes you improve ;)" no it doesn't, it demonstratably doesn't so treat suffering as the shittiest thing in the world because that's what it is
If you're play any game that isn't competitive and multiplayer you practically are watching a movie
Ok
you should calm down buddy
youre typing is taking a nosedive
:^)
Had me until the last line. I've seen it before how things like difficulty selections, mods, and procedural generation can create a barrier to shared experiences, and discussion. In games where there's just -the game- everyone can talk about, and discuss the same moments the same way, but note how it impacted one another differently.
I'm gonna rape u
I always find funny how people in this board call kojima a hack and his games movies that shouldn't be considered games, while still defending and playing H-games where you literally just fastfoward a powerpoint presentation of anime girls until they get naked
its obvious that most people here just hate kojima cause some fag said it was cool to hate him
Different=good and quality is all that matters
>Suffering bad!
>being born in a pre-existing infrasture is PRIVILEGE
What are some video games where the OP is a two dimensional faggot?
jokes on you
im gonna rape you first!
Anytime i play a visual novel shit i auto skip everything. it's all the same shit anyway. if it doesn't have a skip than i dont bother.
I just looked for cg rips but now that pandas dead why bother.
I meant different isnt equal to good
My dick is a controller when I play H-games because the challenge is to not cum until the characters do.
so, where's the arguments
*teleports behind you*
heh nothin personnel
>le cuckshima meme
>I still think the Dark Souls series could accommodate some level of difficulty selection
>ignoring all the options already available, like different playstyles and the ability to summon players
It's almost like different works aim to different things
>Yea Forums is one person
consider the following:
-the people who talk about kojima don't necessarily play hentai games
-the people who who talk about kojima and play hentai games don't necessarily hate him
-the people who play hentai games don't necessarily talk about kojima
There is no argument, that is the position you have taken and your rhetoric revolves around how humans don't like suffering and upkeep on pre-existing infrastructure isn't a factor. Also using fear tactics is bad "because it just is ok?" I am not here to change your mind I am here to call you a faggot.
do you know what pretentious means?
i dont understand how "vague dialogue in medieval era english" makes a game's story pretentious
Kojima didn't want to make any more MG games after the first one
>there's no argument
good to know, not even gonna read the rest of your shitty post, it's probably just another assortment of meaningless memes
based
I feel like there's probably quite a bit of overlap on Yea Forums between kojima fans and VN fans desu.
They're both tied to some of the best games i've ever played. I play MGS on the hardest settings and a variety of ways. I'm fine with MGS having a difficulty option for people that want to experience the story but aren't good at games. The funniest part about this shitty thread is that the only reason From games have the reputation of being challenging is because you can't lower the difficulty. Even more amusing is most games are just as challenging or even more so than From games if you play them at the hardest difficulty.
I'm sure since Yea Forums only plays Nintendo games they probably don't even know what difficulty settings are anyway.
>similar over the shoulder camera
>similar gameplay
>similar enemies
>similar map design
>similar checkpoint system
>stories all deal with undeath and immortality themes
Idk...
Spoken like a true basedboy.
I said game not movie.
>plot has no place in videogames
wow, what a fucking retard you are
If you don't want to play the game on super easy mode, you don't have to. Just play it on normal or hard difficulty. It's literally a non-issue
When retards don't fully understand a story immediately they call it pretentious. Story leaves something up to the player's own interpretation? Pretentious. Open endings? Pretentious. No exposition dumps? Pretentious.
It's the favorite word of angry brainlets.
I have absolutely zero issues with games having a very easy/cake walk/story mode difficulty. Sure, video games have the uniqueness of interactivity over books or movies or TV shows, but some people are still mostly interested in the story, and their experience isn't amplified by a cutthroat or even challenging combat.
If someone has fun playing metal gear solid uniquely through the story, why force them through parts they don't enjoy (the mechanics of the game, stealth)? Why force them to just watch playthroughs and youtube videos?
The story is as much a part of the game as the mechanics are.
inb4 blah blah carmack quote blah blah soup for the spoon
Yeah, just like people say "watching movies for the story is dumb, why not just read a book? You should only pay attention to the cinematography/editing/musical score!"
What's wrong with allowing each player to enjoy the game in their own way?
>dark souls should have an ez mode because i can't beat...i mean the disabled can't beat it! >Think of the poor girl with 1 fused hand and one tiny doll arm with no hand who desperately needs to play dark souls and cant because you incels are gatekeeping her!
>fine From, dont make it easy, YOUR LOSS! Now no one will buy your games
shut the fuck up.
But kreya was wrong. That was the point of her character and her story. Her philosophy was wrong and she was defeated by someone who did the exact opposite that she espoused.
Would be nice if they took a page out of Kojima's book and added hard difficulties because Dark Souls is babby tier
Both are fine. Difficulty select and babby modes have a been a thing since the "Nintendo Hard" era. Designers should be free to do as they please as long as it's not because they're bending to a bunch of assholes on twitter who are butthurt.
>it’s good because fanservice
Actual retard
it really fucking is. Pick knight as starting class, block enemy attacks, punish. For boss stay out of AOE range, circle, punish boss ankles. Fucking retards complaining about dark souls desu
No. It is good because of the atmosphere, gameplay, characters and scenarios.
Read Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
All of which are inferior to previous games on top of pants on head retarded twists
You have the most retarded conception of suffering I've ever heard. People might suffer when they go on a diet, but talk to anyone who's succeeded and I guarantee they'll say they didn't regret the decision.
Thank you, based yano-san
>yaoi vs jomon
No. They are all the best in the series in MGS4.
>first stage of PAC-MAN
>Medicine is basically free to produce.
wow user
any medicine literally cost billions to develop.