Ren'py games are being sold on Steam

They aren't difficult to develop and text-based storytelling lets you create worlds without the need for a big budget. So why aren't you working on a VN right now?

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>NTR
Why does these games get all the good art?

because depending on who's allowing games on steam when I submit it, it might just get rejected for no reason even if it's already on the store. Because there's not fucking communication.

I think those artists legitimately hate the people that buy their works. Imagine spending years learning how to draw and the only modicum of recognition you ever got for it was through drawing literal cuckold porn.

Because I already studied years to learn coding and am now studying more to learn 3D modeling. I'm not going to throw it all away to make a game on RPG Maker's retarded cousin.

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My writing sucks and I can't draw for shit

Do artists fap to their own creations?

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They don't make the stories,only the art

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Of course, they turn their deepest fantasies into reality.

Nope. Not sure if anyone has any explanation to why, but stuff you draw yourself just doesn't does it.

play insexual awakening

The art is not so good.

becasue most vns are gay as fuck and boring to "play"

I was thinking of making a VN, but I got confident enough to develop shit on RPG Maker
I do sometimes

post your art mane

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Thoughts on this game?

when are furries going to kill themselves?

It's a lot like tickling yourself. You just can't do it

I can't draw, not yet anyway. Getting that good takes a long time.

I mean it does still require good art and music and writing.
Creating a VN is easier than a lot of other types of games but it's still not that easy at least to make an actually good one.

I can't, and I covered in cum the best ones long ago, kek

>They aren't difficult to develop
Writing is hard. Coding events is hard.

I'm making one, but I've just started. I'm only doing the writing, and I don't have anyone else helping me yet. I want to make an interesting demo to attract people to help me. When I'm finished, where should I post it?
Also does anyone have that image, the one from the old h-games general? "If you don't have a finished demo ready to play, don't talk about it. We've seen everything before and you're going to give up." That image? I need it for motivation.

Because I cant draw. And even if I could, I would probably just draw my /d/-tier fetishes which have barely any content.

only the best for the highest quality fetish

But I am.

I kinda am though, but it's currently in the "ideas" phase. It won't have any sex scenes though because my sister is doing the art. It's a slow progress since we just started writing down ideas and a few character designs as well not having enough free time. I would love to have all major plot points and characters done by the end of the year, and if possible a prologue. it's going to have an extreme case of chuunishit if you are wondering

>it's going to have an extreme case of chuunishit if you are wondering
based

I did write stories for a few VNs. Not single handedly of course but I wrote like 80% of the dialogue trees and narrative. The other 20% is largely just editing.

It's art that's the hardest part. You need some solid art to compete.

Reminder: If you're making something, don't prejudge yourself. Don't call your own art, writing, music etc shit. Let other people do that, and take feedback from them.
If you hate what you've made and you never show it to anyone, it's the same as never having made it in the first place.
What's most important is getting something done, learning from it, and making something new. The most important part of that is motivation.

>I did write stories for a few VNs.
which ones?

>i have to study years to code
>dreams of making a game are instantly crushed

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Western shit, so probably things you've never heard of. I contributed to a furshit game called amorphous, but I wasn't the lead writer on that by any stretch.

are you the faggot who put tons of autistic pronoun shit in that?

Too big

I played several of those out of sheer boredom and my god they were bad and a crime towards several entities.

I hoped not actually calling it amorous might throw someone off
Nah I wrote Sky (the renamon) seth (the nerd) and remy (the glasses obsesssive chick). The guy who wrote lex was brought on after I left.

Why is writing so hard

Learn to draw. Or to 3D model. Or compose. Plenty of ways to get into making games without coding.
Just don't try to be the "ideas guy". No Indie game dev studio needs an "ideas guy".

is this translated?

>Currently learning to draw, compose and write
>Can already code
>Getting decent at all of them
>All because I'm too cheap to commission people to make stuff for me

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There is literally nothing wrong with NTR. Prove me wrong.

A lot of it tends to focus on the ugly guy who's doing the fucking or the crying faggot who's getting cucked rather than the girl, and that's a pretty big boner-killer.

Not yet I hope. Soon right bros...

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I didnt work on my art, music, or writing skills because I didnt realize I'd need them. So the dream of being a game designer is permanently outside of my grasp unless I decide that being a wage slave code monkey is what I imagined when I thought of "game designer"

Man, I don't know about that. Their art gets actually seen and is appreciated. Have you seen some of the concept art that exists for big budget games? There is some serious fucking talent out there. Most people don't even know what concept art even means.
I'd prefer a bunch of perverts enjoying my art and giving me feedback over creating something that nobody ever looks at, that is then butchered to fit into a game.

It's better that way. Seeing the inner thoughts of some beta bitch boy who's getting cucked is the best part of ntr.

Also most ntr games focus on the girl more than anything.

I'd have to practice for years before creating anything that would meet my own standards to begin with.

I'm worthless untalented garbage. I could never make anything that people enjoy.

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Have you ever played a game with a level editor? Have you ever tried making a level and then playing it yourself?

It's not as fun. There are no surprises.

im getting quite good at shitposting

*hugs you*

So you wrote sexy girl and sexy fuccboi based

I'm one of those people who doesn't get that motivated by something unless other people are involved.
Anyone wants to do stuff with me? Composing, programming, etc etc
i want to stay motivated..

Same.
Not only that but when you commission someone to make shit, you have little control over what comes out. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

No, but this one might hit the same chord.

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Too fag

If it's just a picture then probably not, but when you add stuff like sound effects, story and dialogue then maybe

They're the two plainest non ubersluts cause that's my own preference. Remy was because they wanted an older character but didn't tell me she wasn't a milf, so she just comes off weird. Originally there was going to be a sharkboy to have a threesome with to get her over her fear of sharks but it never panned out.

I wish more games let you play as the villain bull
most games stealing a girl is incidental and not the whole point

whats the appealing for commissions?

>Learn to draw. Or to 3D model. Or compose.
Coding is unironically way easier to learn than any of this shit.

Usually you commission/hire artists or programmers or sound designers for work if it's not going to be some really long project you hire full time for. And it gets really expensive really fast.

But what's the name of this game

Ochiru Hitozuma, by the same guys as Taimanin Asagi, but with none of the more controversial fetishes. You play as a kid that's corrupting his step mother and teacher.
And Sansha Mendan, you play a high school student whose hobby is making older women into his sex slaves. He got kicked out of his last school, so he moved to the one his step sister(his accomplice) works at, and is targeting the Principal, her daughter, a teacher, her sister from your last school, and the Student Council President.

who is this? that pic is hitting all of my fetishes
if its ntr please tell me its just her being a huge cheating slut and theres like no focus on the cuck, I can still fap to that

It's first person from the viewpoint of the cuck.
She has a sluttier outfit and hairstyle.

Use a prebuilt engine, and steal art and music from things you like. Writing is much easier than you think it is. If you look at the biographies of people who have become successful, you'll hear the same thing: "I just fell into it somehow; I got lucky." Experience and knowledge trump talent every time. If you can say you've made ten games, even if they're bad, you'll be much farther along than someone who is absolutely perfect at art or music but haven't made any games at all.

Your standards don't matter. What matters is the standards of the audience. In the end, all that "my standards are too high" really means is "I didn't do it."

Go outside and run for a while. One minute. Adrenaline won't cure depression but it will provide a chemical counterbalance for it, and it will help shake out the bad thoughts in your head.

You have a bright future in politics.

If you're a primarily social person, you're best as a project manager. You don't need any specific talent, just the ability to connect with others. Do what engages you, not what you BELIEVE is valuable.

GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

I don't know anyone to draw cute girls for me or compose pleasant music that can run on a loop for hours without getting annoying.

based. link to play this kino?

Reminder that visual novels (not games, by the way) have less GAME play than ancient 8-bit text adventures.

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What game is this OP?

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Use yandex's reverse image search.

when i drew this in ms paint for /ksg/ i unironically jerked off to it once

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>Write some fapfic for myself
>Get a half-chub but don't wank
>Forget about it
>Find it six months later afterwards
>Wank to it for a couple of days nonstop

Was p. based.

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My writing is too rambling and lackadaisical to ever publish. I'm too focused on maintaining a fun rhythm to my text, and throwing grammar into a wood chipper as a result

The idea that people actually read a requested fanfic I wrote and got off to it, makes me want to torpedo my head into a brick wall of indignity

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彼女は誰とでもセックスする

This is the kind of woman you should turn into a blowjob pig slave.

It only needs a good idea and a modicum of quality, really.
Send links to this fic.

Patreon killed commissions anyways. Now you have to pay just to get a vote or enter a raffle. I hate it.

what was it about?

patreon hasn't killed commissions at all. It just removed shitty $5 commission artists from the pool, now you have to spend money, but you get quality works.

>text based
nigga id go write a story if it was that easy
you also need art for the visual part of the VISUAL novel

I'm learning how to use Ren'Py right now.
It's fun.

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i want to make the next homestuck and i tried making something with renpy but i don't know how the fuck to make music, i'm tone deaf and I'm broke so i can't pay people
I can barely draw as is

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>NTR
fucking faggot

Honestly? I would recommend going on the newgrounds music section, plenty of instrumental artists. soundcloud if you don't mind digging through, people will happily let you use their shit if you give them a shoutout/link to their bandcamp or whatever.

oh i didnt mean to post the version with the xs, my b

it portrays women accurately, vanillafag

I started writing up a blatant CoC rip-off where you're in a fantasy city fucking Goblin and Orc girls.

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Because I'm using RPGMaker and the amount of lewd content and bigotry in it would not pass muster on steam. Stay tuned for "BACK UP WITH DAT ASS: The legend of user's onee-chan's gangbang bukkake drive-thru carwash: A tactical RPG: Part IV"

Steam charges you 1,000USD to do it and you'll be knocked into page 2 in about an hour, never making your cash back.

i know this might come as a surprise, but hentai isnt real life

>$1000
it's $100 USD. You'll easily make that back in a month of being on steam. Even the shittiest garbage makes their $100 back in almost no time. Porn games especially make tons of sales.

This. I didn't have access to porn or the internet back in the 90's and early 00's but I was a horny kid and had some talent in drawing so I drew a lot of sexy girls and porn but for the life of me could not jerk off to it. I could jerk off to N64 block titties but not my own work.

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I guess it wouldn't hurt to try, there's a lot of artists on soundcloud I keep tabs of that seem mostly unknown, I'd love to support them but I don't really want to be the kind of asshole that goes around saying "hey will you make music for my video game and I won't pay you? :^)"

Useless lesbian.

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>Steam
The way to do this now is to make a slice of your game, post it yourself on f95/ulmf (becuase it will end up on both one way or the other so you may as well own it) whilst also making a patreon and committing to updating it consistently for the first few months. Even if that means cheating by waiting until you have the first 2 or so updates ready in advance but just hold them back.

Kanojo wa Dare to demo Sex suru is the name of the game. Anyone got a torrent link for it?

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don't ask them to make new shit because that's retarded. Use existing stuff. There are literally millions of songs out there that never get used in anything and probably have under a thousand plays. Just ask them "hey can I use this song in my game, and I'll give you a shoutout?" And if they ask for money, just pass on it, go to the next one.

If you want this to be some labor of love, you'll be spending years trying to make everything perfect. Settle for the music not being the best thing ever, then when you've made money, go back and put a new soundtrack in the game.

Nah I will just wait to an IA that can make games with some lose instructions, try it, ask the IA to do changes, repeat, now I have my dream game.

>Even if that means cheating by waiting until you have the first 2 or so updates ready in advance but just hold them back.
Honestly, if you're a one-man/small dev team you should be doing this anyway. That way if any issues crop up in life that may cause a delay, you can still maintain your update schedule for a month or two while getting back on track.

sounds pretty comfy

I will never understand the hate for NTR. Like just dont self-insert as the cuck nigga, just enjoy the bitch being a slut? Is that so hard?

vanillafags are unreasonable. They actively seek out the feeling of being mad.

serious question....if i drew some stuff for an h game for steam i should be able to sell it if dosnt have any kids in it right?

... One could argue that vanilla is NTR too...

you're gay.

What do you mean? The game should theoretically be fine going up on steam, but steam is pretty random with what it takes down lately, even more vanilla stuff is being slapped down. There's tons of sites that'll take it and let you sell it though. Memery aside, nutaku is a great marketplace for h-games. I've made more money from sales on nutaku for my shitty rpg maker game than steam. About fifty times as much in fact. Still under $100,000 so i'm not rich but still.

Dude, just go see /ic/. Most amateur artists stay isolated (aka without admirers or even critiques/views of their art) for a really long time (we're talking years here), so any attention at all fires up dopamine in the brain, and that's not even mentioning comissions and shit. Why do you think porn drawing autists exist? Aside from a few degenerates no one starts grinding on cubes and lines so they can one day draw two fursonas fucking each other.

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I do this but wank to it whole I'm writing it
it's basically one giant stream of Conciousness so the writing is awful but it sure does get me off having something exactly catered to what I want. I dunno how lewdfic writers can do it because when I'm not horny I don't want to write but when I am horny it's impossible to write anything good.

I don’t think your butthole is useless

it is he has massive hemorrhoids and chronic diarrhea
user is just completely, irrevocably useless

Kek

game?

Can you read it? Just curious. Because I feel like someone who is incapable of finding a download link by themselves won't be able to read it anyway.

you can also port them to Switch!

>need to draw decently for good cgs, even if you can bullshit by blurring out backgrounds from photos

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My introduction to NTR was just every few untranslated doujins I checked out would have that kind of scenario. To me it was just some other tag for a certain thing to be listed under that someone might or might not enjoy.
But goddamn do some people take that shit to heart. They project all the worst shit about their personal lives onto those characters even self-insert into the loser, even political beliefs (blacked) are projected even when the pig men only have a measly tan.

If you really want to make money forget the current story that must be shit and start a new game about a guy and his sister who are writing a adult Visual Novel together and end up getting more and more involved to the point that they're fucking like crazy.

shut up ya snarky nigger and just spoonfeed

>First NTR work I ever bothered to read was REC when a friend sent it to me as a joke
>autistic hated blooms there on
Netori's not that bad I guess

>They aren't difficult to develop and text-based storytelling lets you create worlds without the need for a big budget. So why aren't you working on a VN right now?
I have written plot, dialogue, interactions, events for a vn
I have drawn characters, each with multiple sprites for facial expressions, specific actions/interactions
I'm just actually that fucking retarded that I cannot understand Ren'py RPGM, or any other engine that I could use to make a VN so its just in a folder collecting dust.
also I cannot for the life of me draw backgrounds

When I read the first NTRs I liked it, because what I find most fun in hentai is the description of girls who start behaving like sluts and in NTR they get so horny that they totally lose control.
But then I began to realize that many stories were trying to make the reader identify with charismatic characters only to make him disappointed by the outcome of the story, as if he were a cuck himself. That's when I stopped reading that shit.

This girl is like 6 of my fetishes

What scenes were missed out with this when it got adaptated? Jacked off to that one

I do. Even while I'm drawing

Blurring out backgrounds from photos is kino

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I get the urge to wank to someone else's stuff when I draw lewd but not to my own stuff

But not in the case where the character is interacting with the background, as in this image you posted.

Ravioli ravioli don't lewd the shy nerd

This is gonna sound kind of retarded but I used to be really indifferent to it when I was younger because I lived in a country where I had to use a VPN with a finite amount of bandwidth to actually see any porn. I didn't even bother reading the subs/text bubbles on most of the shit I downloaded or read on exhentai, I just fapped to the first anime titty that I saw and didn't think any more of it. After I moved out and had both the time and the bandwidth to read whatever I wanted to jack off to at my own pace, I found NTR pretty fucking disgusting and exclusively fap to vanilla these days.

Already exist minus the incest part.
えろげー!~Hもゲームも開発三昧~

>えろげー!~Hもゲームも開発三昧~
oh man, i completely forget about this

both the game and the anime were pretty kino

Post your favorite NTR doujins/games. Could use a good fap

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For once I actually agree with an Irishman

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The artist exclusively draws sexy females paired with ugly fat guys. It was his niche early on, long before NTR became so popular.

Half of Takeda Hiromitsu's work
Asanagi's latest doujin
Sanagi Torajirou's Love & Less
Ochiru Hitozuma
Kedamono Tachi something something
Married Warrior Emma
President Yukino

How hard is renpy to get into? I tried tooling around with Quest for a little bit and couldn't wrap my head around it.

rarely in the process
most of the faps comes at the sketching stage

Ren'py simplifies coding, I think it's the simplest development tool out of everything else.