Fire Emblem: Three Houses

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>Keeping Edelgard in Emperor

Shiggy Diggy

is it just me or is BL blue pilled as fuck? you never fucking investigate what's motivating edelgard or bother to question rhea's orders to kill dissidents without trials, which the game makes it obvious her intentions are questionable at best. the only bits of lore you get are from sylvain and mercedes supports where they suggest they resent the crests and the nobility for perpetuating the systemic inequalities in fodlan causing them real harm. the entire route is focused entirely on dimitri's emotional baggage and the final boss is literally his oneitis. did i miss something? the ending just says dimitri ruled "justly" and the church was restored to power while addressing none of the root causes. i feel like i wasted my time with this route

is that supposed to be Edelgard?

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LE CHURCH IS LE BAD XD

>Dimitri can have his spear and Claude's bow in BL
Based

Morgan is the strongest.

How the fuck are you going to be able to beat the first Death Knight fight on Lunatic?

4d chess fren

Don't speak her name.

what class is she supposed to be?

Can I kill Edelgard in her route?

If you want to figure out what the fuck Edelgard's deal is you play GD. If you want to figure out what the fuck the church's deal is you play BE.

wyvern lord
unironically because the weapons she wants to use are axes and it makes her strengths even better, and movement is always a good stat to excel in

What is wrong with Dimitri?

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I once called my teacher "mom" back in middle school, everyone made fun of me for weeks

>first
Does Lysithea get Spikes THAT early?

Probably the class that uses axes and can abuse aymr by flying all over the map without movement penalty.

goddamn I'm working on training my Dimitri to be a Wyvern Lord but Great Lord just looks so kino

Stack gambit, have a lance unit with knightkneeler and he’ll go down
If you are afraid of miss, use a beefy dude to lure the guy out of the panel ie Dedue or Raph. Physics them if can
Or rush B reason Lys in someway or somehow

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Did you want to fuck her like Dimitri does with his?

Knightkneeler lance of ruin and gambits?

Nope
Lys got it at B (2nd encounter) and Hubert at A (3rd enconter)
But you can focus reason right at the start, grind a bit with the bosses on healing panel, and you might get B that early

commoner
don't ask how

no

Wait scratch that, he fucking goes for you right at the start in the leaked Maddening
Pray tell you survive for all the set up

She's the worst lord and the axe kind of saves her if you can farm the resources to constantly repair it.
Otherwise Dimitri outclasses her by far and even Claude is better.

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Happened to me too. I've called my friends by the wrong name on occasion too though.

good

Gambits and Knightkneeler or Lys not even with her horse killing spell you can get away with Luna if you can weaken him enough
if ng+ Catherine, killer weapons, buying your own Byleth weapon ranks especially for windsweep, horseslayer, 2-3 stat boosters from Amiibo

On classic, it has to be a one turn kill
He typically swings twice, kills on either, and will likely crit at least one time, so you need your shit together to not lose a unit

The best option is to gambit him down and reduce his accuracy as well as defenses, then hit him with a Knightkneeler or Lys' Luna. My first run being the brainlet option of spamming gambits, Lys Luna until she dodges both swings, then a Bernie knightkneeler to finish him off

It's not even an optimal class, so don't feel bad for missing the dark seals unless you want Hubert to LARP harder as an edgelord chuuni

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>What is wrong with Dimitri?
never got over his love for his sister and hate for his mommy. dimitri is an incel basically. he even goes through a mass shooter edgy phase

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Dedue.
My fucken nibba dedue, as great knight. Fucken can take a God damn army to the face and then smash anyone outta the God damn map

Dark Bishop is great for the male mages because Lifetaker is a stupidly good skill.

>mfw Dedue shows up in the Imperial throne room in GD, charges in and nothing can fucking damage him
>not even the giant house sized monster

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>you will never be as cool of a loser as Dimitri
fuck this game for setting unrealistic standards for men

No, that's robin
if her game wasn't piss easy maybe

Dimitri struggles mightily to fly in a game where fliers are king, and even his slightly superior growths isnt enough to close that gap.

He is the worst lord for that reason and no amount of gifs of dumb Blayydid crits will change that

the problem is that with the leak he'll rush you down, no way you can set up
even on Hard he's difficult to beat without a perfectly optimized configuration

Yuri

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>Dimitri
>Worst lord

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>if you want to know what the story is then don't play BL

seriously dimitri and edelgard's final conversation was so cryptic it pissed me off. i fucking doubt dimitri knew or thought of asking why edelgard is after the church.

Robin isn't even the best unit in his own game m8. Morgan is objectively superior with proper eugenics

Cope faggot. Dimitri wishes he had the map clearing potential has

Well (You) become the archbishop so I guess the church is okay?

In all 3 hard run Ive done in Hard Byleth can tank at least 1 swipe, survive, and take at least 1/3 his hp. Adding gambit and knightkneeler on that is an easy kill
Even in the leaked Maddening he only takes 2/3 hp of the attacked, so its even easier to set up
Tb h i dont like how he just charge in tho, since its really OoC

Statistically sure, but solo Robin paired up with Chrom is better by far for beating the game as quickly and efficiently as possible.

A unit having big numbers doesn't make them good, it's their efficiency/investment ratio
Morgan requires a Robin S support and to be brought to the team's current level while Robin requires nothing

His point was dmitri is a bluepilled cuck. Only saving grace is retard strength which comes at the price of losing some chromosomes

>warp in my great knight Hilda to protect him
>they both take no damage
Defense chads are underrated for a game where nothing can kill them. Too bad my Raphael didn't get those defense growths

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>A still image
Man they really cheaped out on her route.

I was able to do it before chapter 4 in NG+, which means I had statue boosts and more activity points for auxiliary battles. But I also split her goals between reason and authority, so if you focused purely on reason, you might be able to get it to B even during a fresh file.

I don't disagree with you but Crimson Flower has the best ending animation of all the routes 100%

I need to review the stats on the Maddening preview vid, but I think he was toned down from what I recall to account for first turn swing shenanigans. He should be doubling literally everyone at his base >20 Speed, but he didn't the MC in that video

Like I said in a past thread. DK will be easier on Maddening than Hard just because his fat ass won't be camping a +res/+dodge tile

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This, the defense stat is always over looked, fucken dedue has been carrying the entire blue lion house on his back like nothing

I don't like it.
I've always hated beating the big boss with some random idiot only for a cutscene to let the main dude take the kill.
Maybe Alois deserved the kill more?

I think its just a bug with Maddening being unfinished and all. Hes supposed to just stand there menacingly and provides an optional challenge
Him rushing out while screaming “hey i fucking told you not to touch me” is just... weird

Armor units have historically been shit with a couple indivdual exceptions, especially in more optimized forms of play like LTC and Lunatic difficulties

>the entire route is focused entirely on dimitri's emotional baggage

This. It actually makes me question BLfags judgment when their route is so self centered on Dimitri's feelings. I played BL first too and ended up youtubing the other two routes for the story. Really wish I played either GD or BE instead since BL ended up being too predictable.

They're a godsend in this game though. Being able to bait enemies into a wall without fear is convenient.

Only because the game forgot to put one or two mages among the pack of enemies

Did you miss him actively trying to have peace talks with Edelgard, to find out what her motivations were? And Rhea was killing people who were either outright declaring war and rallying an army against her, or involved in conspiracy to assassinate her/rob a holy mausoleum of divine weapons.

The root cause of most all conflict in the game is Edelgard and Thales, and Dimitri killed both of them on accident while taking back his kingdom and somehow ended up uniting the whole continent while doing it.

Just get to the last few maps. Mages every fucking where
And then they forgot about WL and FK and didnt put enough archers

Claude's a cunt so far so I don't think I would enjoy continuing the GD route
Plus I don't want to play the exact same 12 chapters again so I don't think I will even bother doing a second route after abandoning my GD playthrough
I don't see the problem with BL having the weakest final 10 chapters when it has the strongest opening 12.
The game isn't good enough to bring me back since it's painfully obvious it needs 2 years more work on it and the fact they got away with it just makes me resent the game even more.

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>dimitri accidentally unites the continent by killing everyone
so thats another thing that points to that genealogy remake

>great knight kills one mage and the other mage just slightly damages them or focuses a res tank else because they have less bulk
That doesn't change much without an army of them

Just use Wyverns.
Alert stance is leagues better than the extra 5% bulk an armour has over it.
There is no better tank than just avoiding the hit entirely.

>5%
Now you're underestimating how much prt battalions give

It's unnecessary when you just avoid the hit.

>dimitri killed thales

when? did it happen in a paralogue because i missed it. thales is the pointy white haired purple guy, right? i just finished BL and i do not remember seeing him or anybody mentioning him since the cutscene where he causes byleth to fall underground right before the time skip. the black mages in the final map retreated when their leader was beat but where is it said that dimitri killed thales?

Thales is Arundel

You can say the same to a 0
It's no different as neither give the battalion damage

Ah, then Sylvain killed Thales.

>the entire route is focused entirely on edelgard's emotional baggage

Why was Thales so willing to die in the Alliance anyway? You'd think as the leader of those who slither in the dark he'd fall back or something

Haven’t done BE yet, but I think all the named idiots Dimitri mows down on his way to Edelgard are incognito members of Those who Slither in the Dark.

Because unless you haven't been paying attention the Slithers are fucking useless.

>he doesnt RP his kills by having byleth or edelgard deal the final blow to a big boss with their hero relic

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i assume you find this out in the BE route? how are BL players supposed to know this? the black mages in the final map retreated leaving you to believe there's still a considerable amount of people in fodlan wanting to rise up against the nobility so there's no closure in the BL ending. it's blue pilled as fuck

SKYRENDER TIME, BITCHES

No, I let real heroes save the world.

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>Dimitri kills Slithers without even knowing it
>Dimitri gets the alliance and Claude's bow
How can it be so based?

It isn't terribly hard to keep knights out of range of mages that aren't running long range spells.
Even then, I had my flying units compliment my knights by sniping out mages anyway.

I'd appreciate it more if Claude didn't go full retard at Gronder

I know but I wish they weren't such shitters and actually felt like a threat

Ingrid exist

They job every time they show up.
Even in Hubert's paralogue which is about saving them.
They have all the technology they need but they don't do anything.

>Dorothea B+ support with Linhardt
Holy fuck the VA really delivered, 1st time since XC that i really enjoy the dub

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Kinda funny that they have fucking nukes but Grug, the Unga of Bunga is too scary for them so they lock him in the fridge.

I still prefer Chasing Daybreak, watching all the grown-up student niggas showing up from nowhere to help with it playing was pretty dope

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Do you think Marianne would be too nice to call you out for checking out her ass and tits?

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Heritors of Arcadia.

You mustn't have heard much then.
Or you just love the sound of Operetta.
I hate operetta so I don't like it, I feel it takes away from the melody of Video game music and relies on the voice drowning out the notes to disguise a weak melody.

A thousand year in the background make you unfit for the real world like that

I just can't take them seriously when they all pretty much are killed within 2 chapters of meeting them.

>Dimitri
>a cool loser in BE
He was mad and completely pitiful, still barking at Edelgard even after being completely defeated.

This thing forced him to call her "mommy" for years.

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???

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Best king

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>Finish BL route
>Start another route
>It's the same 12 chapters and they are all about the Kingdom.
Oh, I wonder if it would have been rated so highly if reviewers had bothered to start a second route because this is just lazy.

god I want to nut between those tits

>Tfw had Dimitri deliver the final blow to Edelgard
>Tfw it was a critical hit
Anime as fuck

Seth and Sigurd are still stronger.

This

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Kek. Top tier braids.

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Cute gorillas

Kek

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My cute emperor

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What does Cornelia's slither form look like anyway? Is she actually a chestlet compensating?

>giving the final blow to that cuck dimitri

i had byleth, dimitri, and dedue all gangbanging edelgard and gave the final hit to dedue for him to shout FOR HIS HIGHNESS bad ass fuck. the next cutscene only made my dick limp when dimitri gives edelgard one last chance for redemption what a fucking cuck

user, he just wants to reconnect with his sister, is that really so bad?

If you paid any attention to the game you would have known he was always going to reach out for her.

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user, I think that IS the slither form.
Judging by her and Kronya, slither women look pale, have massive breasts, and the same specific shade of orange hair.
So there's some "real" Cornelia being fucked forever by slither monsters in a basement somewhere, while this one was seducing Shota Dimitri.
It also means that Cornelia has a tight black outfit like Kronya under her clothes.

Based Ignatz

Calm down, Felix.

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She would just get uncomfortable and leave

Too bad Edelgard already has his heart

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>he thinks reviewers ever finish their games
You poor fool, user

>he sided with the most selfish and ignorant woman in the land
Genuinely would rather side with Cornelia. I bet she's bisexual, too.

do you think reviewers have the 200+ hours for that

T. Slither

Sirius route

>one of the biggest changes is that you do not pick a house. You are still an instructor at the academy, but don't teach a specific house
>Jeritza becomes the instructor for the BE instead while Manuela and Hanneman take the other two houses
>DLC will feature a few new characters, who will be your starting students
>while part 1 will play kind of the same, it also has big changes that alter the story
>one of these changes is that Jeralt isn't killed by Kronya
>the attack on Garreg Mach is started by the Argarthans instead of Edelgard
>the students you recruited will become your allies in your independent troop of mercenaries, led by you and Jeralt. However, there will be a limit to how many you can recruit per house
>Sothis will have a much bigger impact in the story, and won't disappear like she did almost at the end of part 1.
>one of the biggest changes is that the Agarthans (Arundel) take control of the empire and overthrows Edelgard
>she will be the first to side with you and your mercenaries, alongside Hubert
>Claude and Dimitri will join later on as the story progresses
>new characters will have their own supports with each other, as well as characters from other houses
>new paralogues will be possible thanks to this
>there will also be one more same-sex S rank option for both male and female Byleth
>Rhea's role in the story will go similar to BE, with Rhea going crazy, however she won't be slayed and will eventually join you
>map deployments will go up to a max of 18 units
>there will be certain unrecruitable characters due to plot reasons during part 1, Including academy staff and students. They may or not be able to be recruited after the timeskip
>the game is focused with the Agarthans and an even bigger evil in mind. The theme of the route is unity

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Is there any reason to level a weapon skill up to A+ and higher if you don't plan on using the crit ability and the unit's class already has the relevant -faire ability? Is there any hidden benefit to having a higher skill level?

>plant an armor unit
>eat an meteor/bolting from 100 tiles away
Fucking armor classes are trash in this game

Pretty sure faires stack.

>Cutesexyrobutts actually draws her
>it’s not this

Man I was so fucking disappointed

I wish. We have to watch clowntits get dragged away to their rape dungeons instead of taking her by the hand and putting her into our own rape dungeons.

Dimitri must’ve given her the Dagger so she could go into the thief line so her useless ass would actually be able to hit something

Sorry witch but Chadmitri always win baybee

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Seth probably but Sigurd has a rather glaring availability problem :^)

>his hp growths were so low they didn't target the dancer instead
You have shit luck

There's really no reason for the Agarthans to overthrow Edelgard and not just use her as they did in every route.

>Dimitri struggles mightily to fly in a game where fliers are king,
Dmitri gets to Wyvern Rider really easily, which is enough to fly.
Getting Wyvern Lord is tougher.

Jeralt not getting killed could lead to another scenario for Kronya and Solos. Hubert could possibly be involved too.

It was a con job from the start. The plan was for Jeritza to save them and kill all the bandits instead of you and Jeralt, so he'd get the head professor job instead.

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She’s essentially a custom tailored living weapon to be used in their goal of dismantling the church and killing Rhea. As long as she’s working towards the same goal why would they NOT use her?

Do you think Edeltards actually play other routes

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Yeah uh fucking delete this

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Why didn't Holst just kill Edelgard since the Almyrans were a lesser threat at that point.

I did it!

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Jesus christ

I have heard people say this but there has never been any evidence.

>that tiny fucking axe
How does he hit anyone without crashing his wyvern?

My Sylvain was faster!

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Yeah, and then the plan went to shit when Claude ran away leading to she herself almost getting killed if Byleth didn't save her. A retarded plan, basically.

>Those stats
B O A R

You forget Edelgard isn't exactly willing or happy to be working with them. She only does so because she and Hubert know how much of a threat they are and that they could get in trouble if they oppose them. They're only cooperating on the same goal of destroying the church.
Keep your friends close and enemies closer.

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>implying a fucking low rank bandit could've killed the Flame Emperor
It's all a wounded gazelle gambit.

He hits people with the wyvern.

Chadmitri always win baybeeeee

Maybe they were to busy reclaiming an entire kingdom

Pretty much. She's just a tool of the Agarthans, like Nemesis before her. Except worse in every way.

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You can tell Transeldgard is only strong because of her crests, but Nemesis was already strong.

Claudes final map should have been him trying to destroy Fodlans Locket against fucking Holst.

I mean, that is just normal mode Husk Edelgard, I just did the chapter user.

Edelgard functions off of a wicked combination of survivor’s guilt and sunken cost fallacy. That combined with the character flaws of being very untrusting of outsiders and the belief that only she can fix Fodlan leads straight into villainy if she’s not being reined in by Byleth

youtube.com/watch?v=MyFHihJrw4g DRAMATIC OPERA INTENSIFIES

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You do realize Nemesis has to drink the blood of god knows how many Nabeteans to get to that point right.

Dimitri is a lot stronger than her hell Dudue is stronger than her too

What if the dubstep cult resurrected Glenn and everyone who died during the Duscur incident as Crest monsters?

I'd like to see Edelgard crush a man's face with his hand like Dimitri did.

That's why it's entirely possible for her to be overthrown by the Agarthans. Perhaps Arundel sees Edelgard as useless, thus decides to just eliminate her and replace her with a fake Edelgard (like Monica)
Perhaps in this scenario where Jeralt isn't killed, Kronya and Solon do some other bullshit that leads to that decision from Thales, but Hubert swoops in and *teleports* him and her away.

If you kill his teammates he has about half stats

Holst only concerns himself with strong opponents. He solos Nemesis and the Ten Elites for a month or some shit

>thought the game couldn't get a more kino final map than my first BL run
>mfw GD dubstep and the final battle

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I don't get the FE universe, it seems to be slightly strong human but then theres people like Chrom and Lucina who break through walls while training and dimitri with his boar strength.

Lack of Galeforce and easy access to movement after attacking leaves Dimitri pretty underwhelming when played optimally. He crits a lot and shits out damage, but is far less versatile than Claude or Edelgard.

She can only tightly squeeze Byleth's penis.

>The only character that can effectively use the Bolt Axe is Edelgard, and fucking no one can effectively use the Aura Gauntlets
>Marianne, Ingrid, Lorenz, and maybe Sylvain would all be able to effectively use a magic lance
>The only magic lance in the game is a single relic that can only be obtained in the BE route
Why the fuck did they do this?

Annette is made to use bolt axes

>i cant play a game built for kids and retards

The game lets you know several times that Dimitri is obsessed and kind of a single-minded dullard. Of course his path would focus on his emotional baggage and his obsession without any room for nuance.

Dimitri is the proven worst lord stat wise retard

Unless you're retarded, you're going to be putting Annette into a class that can use black magic, which makes the Bolt Axe useless. There is no reason to ever use the inaccurate and heavy Bolt Axe instead of black magic except for the scenario of fighting a beast that's weak to axes.

During supports and conversations it is established that, due to their crests, both Dimitri and Edelgard have super human strength (Dimitri had to learn how to handle tea cups without breaking them, he also can't sew because he fucking bends needles with his fingers, Edelgard says similar things) the 2 probably are the only ones that can fuck without killing each other by accident

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>nobody would expect the girl who was closest to dying to be the mastermind
4D chess

they do unlike you SJW tranny blu fags

That's a lot of buzzwords.

who are your staple recruits from other houses? after my first GD playthrough, i just can't give up lysithea the death knight slayer and raphael the war master god. their supports hooked me iso i keep recruiting them to see their supports with the other houses and they haven't disappointed

>aura gauntlets

Wouldn't they work on Byleth? I'm doing grappler/warmaster Byleth but my mag isn't completely shit either.

nah its called facts when im talking down to the dirt beneath me

Someone post that one comic of she hulk and juggernaut post coitus. That’s what the sex would be like

>Choosing to have lord in your route
Church route is best route. No lords, only Byleth. Meaning the player is already at a disadvantage.

The only things I see is BLfags moaning and crying about how they have to do the BE route and entering the route already believing it to be shit without giving it a real chance.

Damn I love how Dimitri just sends bitches flying across the field with a single hit

1-3 range

For the three range idiot.

Lysithea was my first recruit literally every single route

Don’t even dignify his post with an answer user he does this literally every threas

>Holst fought for his friends
Ike from another world confirmed.

>Give Annette one of the staffs
>She now has three or four range for her magic
>Get her to S level reason and she gets another range on top of that

Warmaster Lorenz if you want magic fists.

being able to recruit units from other houses is a retarded mechanic

>Not putting Dimitri in middle of enemy army to enemy phase their whole force
>Not making the boar kill every last one

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When I get round to my BL run, I want to make the entire team either mounted or flying and meme it up - is his special class mounted, or will I have to make him a fucking paladin or something?

So is the optimal strat for lunatic runs just going to be farming Manuela/Hanemann for EXP while they stand on the heal tiles in the three house practice battle?

>plan falls apart immediately when Claude runs away, but who could have guessed people flee when their life is threatened
>she is genuinely mad at him after that because he didn't just sit there like an idiot
brainlet and womanlet. a deadly combo.

She rapes little girls

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>just after fighting the bandits you see Ferdinand's C support
>Ferdinand says he saw her solo a demonic beast before you even know what they are and the other students barely had their first kill
This one had more right to be locked than Edelgard's support

their strenght is very high but not superhuman. Dedue and Raphael are close. Felix is also equal to Edel but that might just be autism.

Claude is the only lord chad with a unique mounted class making him the best by far.

Felix has a major crest, he should at least be on par with the boar and Edeltard

>lysithea+cyril support
>they paired in the ending
lysithea is too good for this world i can't believe people sexualize her

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That's a shame. What class should I make Dmitri, then, for my mounted/flying run?

>Lysithea doesn’t hesitate and joins Edelgards crusade
She’s Edelgard lite.

I have a really hard time sexualizing her because her personality is a boner killer.

Wyvern Lord is aways the answer

Don't even know which song that it, when does it play? I finished one path so far but I don't remember any of the music but the title theme.

same as always

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Not all crests bestow superhuman strength, else Lysithea could wrestle Dedue to the ground.

Clearly Felix doesn’t accidentally snap swords in two just by swinging them like THE BOAR.

>why i have to play all routes to get full story
Are you seriously complaining that each route has its own unique story?

Edelgard has 13 base str and dimitri 12. Feliz has 9 or 10

so should I be leveling my mages in mercenary so they get vantage or is that a waste of time

yeah I had no clue what the fuck he was talking about

does lysithea really outclass the other mages in the game by that large of a margin? everyone makes it sound like she's a literal god relatively speaking

But Wyvern Lord can’t use Blyat to its full potential.
Clearly the solution is to tell Dimitri to dilate so he can reclass as Falcon Knight.

yes absolutely
>2 warps
>kills everything
the only problem is she'll die in literally every situation

Crest of Flames is in an entirely different tier in the narrative than Fraldarius m8

She doesn’t have Meteor/Bolting, but yeah, she becomes a literal walking nuke missile at endgame.

Of fucking course she’d side with Edelgard, did you not pay attention to her character at all.

The basically become sisters in their support

I'm playing gd right now and my squad is roughly in the low 30s and yeah she is a fucking WMD but you have to actually get her close enough without dying which is really difficult

She’s the best offensive mage in the game bar none AND has warp. It is not even really close frankly

>high magic growth so it's unlikely that she'll suck
>warp
>horse effective
>monster effective
>luna
>good speed to double for weak spells
>pretty much any spell oneshots
Considering the spell list of other mages they all got shafted so Lys can be the most popular unit

It’s really fucking dumb how you become a literal deity halfway through the game and the only gameplay effect is that your whippy swippy sword glows brighter and does a bit more damage.

You got thyrsus right?

Marianne, and no one else.
Lysethia makes the game boring if you bring her along every time.

You just give her Lorenz relic and that becomes a non-issue but opens up the new issue that everyone now has a horse or is a flyer.

+2 range from lorenz relic and +1 range from skill allows her to safely destroy most of the enemies without them being able to retaliate.

ya that's true lmfao I forgot she has sniper range on top of all that shit
what were they thinking with this character

Can’t you reclass her as a dark knight?

Can you marry Flayn? I really want to marry Flayn

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Every mage is good because magic in general is good, but Lysithea is far and away the best.

is there any discernable benefit to training Mercedes in bow
I might make her Dancer instead.

And lose my double warp? No thank you

You can

But then you lose out on two Warps.

don't do this ever

There better be a fuckton of antimagic and antibow in Lunatic to counter their retarded range advantage.

Yep, though her support is basically going on about how you feel familiar and like family, while her S-rank is literally just her being confused about you being both Sothis and male.

You realize there are other characters with Crests of Cethleann in the game, right? You know what that means.

>a male goddess
Wtf Nintendo stop pushing your tranny agenda

Nice

There's a difference when gaining faith gives you utility and giving you two new nukes to use plus the most useful utility one.

You realize that as an actual fucking dragon Flayn can hand out her crest like candy just by giving out her blood?

>Blood Eagles route
>ring my Tulpa instead of Edeltrash
Who else big brain here?

Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure that's what happened.

She never even comes close to dying. She clearly saw bandit bro coming and ready’s a weapon to defend herself. Byleth takes that axe for no reason.

Wait
Could Byleth have powered up all the crestless losers in your army with the crest of flames? You are literally Sothis after all.

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That must be why all her supports are male

Yeah, surely blood was the only type of fluid Flayn exchanged with humans. And nothing else.

That scene was stupid anyways. Byleth had time to react so there was no point in taking the axe to the back instead of trying to parry it like she did the second time around.

I don’t, I only just started

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Discuss nerds

>Have you ever heard of Saint Cethleann's loophole

Dimitri also has ageusia
Why was life so cruel?

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Holy shit, actual concrete proof that Blue Trannies are all otome fangirls and fags.

That's probably a net positive considering he ate like a hobo for 5 years

Fuck you I laughed

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As opposed to BE being entirely edelgard’s emotional baggage

BL have the most balanced fans in terms of gender.
Meanwhile blacked eagles is the house for the braindead waifuniggers

>playing black eagles
>at the tomb mission
>chose to protect edelgard
>everyone i've recruited says the church is bad and rhea is evil
>reload and chose to kill edelgard
>everyone i've recruited says edelgard is a tyrant and needs to be put down
Why are the characters so bipolar?

Because IS is afraid of taking units away from you, so they just bend over backwards to agree with senseis choice.

>Dimitrifags projecting.

Accept that he’s an emotional train wreck that has to be pulled from the brink my dude.

Even in non BE routes Edelgard is firmly in control of her mental state, her issue is more so she sinks to more depraved depths to accomplish her goal without Byleth tempering her worst impulses

>most balanced
>Dimitri is the only Lord with a mostly female fanbase despite female players being a tiny minority
Face it tranny, you lust over his sweet boyish cock and only played the game because of boypussy.

That’s not true, edelshart has the tumblr LGTB audience

>firmly in control of her mental state
>starts the bloodiest war in millennia for literally no reason

She’s completely insane in every route, her fixation on the church is completely unfounded lunacy.

The idealized reason is that you attempting to not get your student killed and at least keep her hostage is met with the archbishop turning into a gigantic lizard and trying to kill you led to some doubts.

The pessimistic reason is because they're lazy.

Because Byleth can’t do anything wrong, so it demonizes the other side

Nice way of trying to deflect BL is an estrogen addled shlickfest.

I mean Jesus Christ how the fuck does Mercedes end up less popular than fucking ASHE

Edelgard has red blooded males on her side, Tumblr and Resetera are 100% Deerfags and Blue Trannies.

It's pretty easy to check, you can just head over there and see all of the same anti-Edelgard BS Blue Trannies post here being posted there too.

Edelgard now follows in the tradition of other female protagonists in the series where a vocal minority condenses any and all character and nuance they might have had into a single buzzword.

Behold the Grand History of Female Protagonist:

Celica is an idiot

Lyn is boring

Eirika is stupid

Micaiah is a Mary Sue

Lucina is boring

And now finally:

Edelgard is a monster
Congratulations Edelgard you've made it into the big leagues! Forget about nuanced writing or morally grey characters. Nah, senpai let's go back to the good old days where I didn't have to think about complex motivations, how environments and the situational context of their time shape characters as well as their actions, and how my own biases and privileges prevent me from relating and empathizing with certain characters.

If you can't act with 100% logic and complete knowledge that you shouldn't have 100% of the time you're objectively a bad character.

>starts the bloodiest war in millennia for literally no reason

Play the motherfucking game Jesus Christ. I refuse to believe people are unironically still saying this shit.

It’s one thing to say her reasons were bad but to deny them outright is asinine

Technically neither is mutually exclusive, though really they just want to suck your cock.

>Blue Lions is all gays and women
This is perfect, I'm saving this for the next time some faggot claims that BL is the "real route".

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Tumblr and resetera hate dimitri for being white with blonde hair, but love the black eagles because
they have all the faggots and dykes

Look at all the fan art for BE, 99% of it is dyke shit where trannies self-insert as fembyleth

no one respond to this Italian

Dude I like Dimitri and Dedue bromance.
Its a cool house.

Where’s your argument? If you played he game you would realize literally every single powerful position in fodlan would be filled with people seeking societal change. No wait edelgard hd to start the greatest war in history in order to appoint her friends to positions they were already inheriting

>reaching this hard and denying the results of this poll desperately
Just head over there, tranny, it's clear that's where you belong.

>waifuniggers are this triggered

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>reddit spacing
>defends incelgard

Checks out

>Look at all the fan art for BE, 99% of it is dyke shit where trannies self-insert as fembyleth
you weren’t supposed to point this out

Holy shit, will Blue Lions ever recover?

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We actually have the poll and standing Resetera threads to prove you wrong, Otome Tranny.

>we

We, as in Eaglechads.

>t. fembleth player

>brainlessy follows Edel pussy because marketing told him to
>chad
Blacked Eagles are the ultimate betas, all that's need to make you stop thinking is to dangle a hot piece of ass in front of you.

>Dude gradual change lmao

Nevermind the fact that TWSITD have effective full shadow control of the Empire and a coup primed in the Kingdom. Peace was straight up not in the plans for Fodlan in the near future.

Even in the super idealistic world where Edelgard decides not to go to war on her own terms, literally nothing is stopping Arundel/Thales from deposing her and doing that shit himself. And it would be a far more brutal, relentless campaign than say, Crimson Flower.

Edelgard making the calculus of the immediate loss of life from an 5ish year war against the continued suffering of the populace comically mislead about Fodlan's history, leading to the crest hierarchy that causes so much suffering as seen in game and lead to the suffering of people like Edelgard and Lysithea as well as their isolationist views that cause continued conflict on their borders, and choosing to go with the former is not "literally nothing".

Rhea HERSELF admits the Church was a selfish front, and while it certainly does have some good it in, there is zero argument against the fact it is stagnating Fodlan as it is, and this is reflected in the MASSIVE improvements that come to the contnient once it is either abolished or radically reformed to the point of being unrecognizable in every ending

>comically mislead about Fodlan's history, leading to the crest hierarchy
LMAOOOOOO

How the fuck do I recruit people from other houses, I feel like I'm taking too long doing this because I've just fought the first monster and have fucking nobody

>Did you miss him actively trying to have peace talks with Edelgard, to find out what her motivations were?

I played BL and I don't remember Dimitri actually asking Edelgard why she started the war. I only remember him whining about >muh innocents. When did Dimitri think about the political conflict between Edelgard and the church status quo? Dimitri was a liberal cuck as I remember it.

Must we have this same 'argument' every thread?

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raise your skill levels in the stats/skill they want, that's it
its made easier when you support the unit since it lowers their requirement

Get them to B rank and they'll join you without you needing the stats required to recruit them

spam gifts and activities with the people you want until you get to B rank support with them. it's not guaranteed but they should ask to join you randomly on any day of the week. i found asking them for assistance seemed to help trigger this event

you have to be specialized in multiple stats, so faculty training is a must. Alternatively, use those activity points on building up supports with them.

Must Edeltards insist that their warmongering massmurdering waifu dindu nuffin?

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I suggest you play the game
>church status quo
>three centuries of peace

Not an argument.

If the populace at large knew that the 10 elites were not revered heroes but genocidal tutorial bandits there'd be a reckoning for their descendants

Why can’t he transform into a dragon again?

Nigga's a thousand year old and his dragonstone only had 40 uses, cut him some slack.

If the populace knew that the ten elites massacred a bunch of dragons while simultaneously learned that they’ve been controlled by a shadowy dragon council for most of their history they would probably conclude that the dragons were assholes and deserved it

>comically mislead about Fodlan's history, leading to the crest hierarchy

LMAOOOOOOOO Monarchs rule because their ancestor said God told them to rule one thousand years ago not because they can raise armies

Dimitrifags are as obsessed with Edelgard as their house leader and it's entertaining as fuck to watch.

>Edel support with Caspar
Didn't expect my blue boi to shit all over her like that what a champ

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>muh alternate routes
>"she's evil in the alternate universe that I prefer so she's always evil"
Nigga just give her the dick and she winds up being the most reasonable out of all of them where the fuck was Dimitri when he was sending hundreds of peasants weekly to die attacking a useless fucking monastery oh right sucking Rhea's cock

If you're going to be able to save Jerry, you can make a strong point for siding with slytherins or at least hearing their half of story.

I didn't really get the implication that he was shitting on her so much as not understanding what her fucking deal was.

You have to realize the context here. In BEs, your students and you literally saw the Pope turn into a demonic dragon and tried to kill you and them. In Church route, you have Edelgard hire a bunch of thugs and then tried to kill you if you opposed them pilfering a corpse to obtain WMDs. When Byleth (you) decides, the opposition chooses to kill you and that sours the entire perception of that faction.

The crest hierarchy existed before Rhea watered it down into sane, non-unga levels

>most reasonable
>starts the biggest war in history for no reason

>muh tacked-on waifu route is the real one
>therefore she's a good girl who dindu nuffin
Are you even fucking trying.
Come back when your shitty route has more than one cutscene

Why did Edelgard's mom cause the Duscur Tragedy and where did she go?

>BEs, your students and you literally saw the Pope turn into a demonic dragon and tried to kill you and them
I suggest you bring up context. The pope doesn’t do this for no reason.

The pope does his because edelgard is responsible for violent attacks on the monastery, kidnapping students, killing them, turning them into crest beats, responsible for the remire massacre, and killing jeralt.

>Nemesis uses Sword of the Creator to orbital strike like 20 soldiers
>Byleth gets a 2 range silver sword
Lame

>The crest hierarchy existed before Rhea watered it down into sane, non-unga levels
Eh? Before Rhea established the church the only ones with Crest was Grug and the 10 ungas and their rape babbies.

Eagles is the tacked on route for incestfags/waifufags, one route is short as hell while the other is a copy paste of Deer.

SEETHING

She wanted to see Edelgard again after Arundel took her, she's probably dlc bait

Nigga what? Do you not remember where crests originally came from?

Continent was a little too engaged in a widescale war to give a fuck about a hierachy at that point. Rhea lied about their origins in order to placate the masses in a way that would let her be able to do her mommy resurrection expiriments in peace.

>Grug and the 10 ungas and their rape babbies.
Why do you think they could get away with rape

Caspar wasn't really bothered about the nobility stuff. He didn't really care that much that his brother was going to inherit daddy's position.
While Edelgard was all "don't you think that's unfair?" He was just "nah I'm chill"

It's almost like Sothis is entirely justified in chewing you out.

Because they're ungas that bunga'd the land?

>>three centuries of peace
>three loosely held federations tear in half as soon as there's a spark of war

I admit I only played BL, but even I know it's naive to think Fodlan had anything resembling "peace". Some of the support conversations within the BL house members themselves, and especially with those in the other two houses, clearly showed you they were suffering because of the crests or the nobility using them. I ask you again, when did Dimitri show us he thought about the political implications of anybody's actions? A lot of the other characters, like Lorenz and Ferdinand, show an interest in politics in their support conversations but I don't remember Dimitri ever showing an interest in it unless it was related to the Duscur incident where he lost his mommy and sister (wife).

The dialogue between Dimitri and Edelgard right before the final map could hardly be described as an earnest effort to stop the war. Dimitri doesn't ask what her motivations or intentions for Fodlan are. He seems to only have a problem with her method of being proactive to fundamentally change Fodlan.

>I admit I only played BL
Play the game tranny

>The pope does his because edelgard is responsible for violent attacks on the monastery, kidnapping students, killing them, turning them into crest beats, responsible for the remire massacre, and killing jeralt.
Byleth and the students don't know any of that or if Edelgard is responsible. They're working on partial knowledge only they're aware of at the time, which is based on Edel's misinformed and inaccurate view of history. By the time Edel reveals everything to them, Byleth and the students buy into the Church conspiracy, when it's literally only one Dragon behind it all, and she has a excuse of being possessed and going insane by it.

Yeah, and it honestly improves her rushed ass route by making the few scenes they bothered to cutscene/even give a CG that much more gut wrenching.
youtube.com/watch?v=rOnAe4dCrGY
(Ignore the terrible Edelgard dub actress)

The biggest, most glaring thing missing from Edelgard's route is a payoff where she could solely be a route that truly got rid of slitherniggers in a way none other did to justify her ruthlessness. Her campaign is so halfassed though, it's like a SMT chaos route that stops the moment it takes down an archangel and never confronts [recordYHWHscratch]

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>kidnapping students killing them,, turning them into crest beats

That was Kronya if you're referring to Ch 9.

>responsible for the remire massacre

Did you completely miss the part Solon admits he was responsible for this?

>and killing jeralt.
Also Kronya

It's one thing to blame her on the basis for associating with the people who did this but again, at this point in the narrative from her perspective there's not all that much choice in the matter and she sure as hell doesn't enjoy it seeing her reactions at the end of Ch.8 and 9

>kidnapping students, killing them, turning them into crest beats, responsible for the remire massacre, and killing jeralt.
Literally didn't do any of those things herself.

>spark of war
>massive invasion, the biggest in the history of the continent of two sovereign nations
Dimitri does ask her, you just don’t like the conversation because it shows edelgard is a brainlet with no idea what she’s doing. She doesn’t even consider educating the populace

>for no reason
>kills Dragon Satan and gives humanity their agency back
>defeats the treacherous Claude who was setting up an invasion by the Almyran empire
>wipes out the villainous race of molepeople plaguing the continent for centuries ensuring stability for millennia to come
She single-handedly removes three existential threats to Fodlan in the space of a few years and cares for her people, the people of the Empire, calling her "unjustified" is the most cuckbrained thing you could say about her.

They do in fact know because Edelgard literally just stated she's the flame emperor, who they blame for all that shit.

Play the game. Or at least more routes than Edelgards.

>single-handedly
Yeah that's why she wins in the other routes...

No one knows what the FE is directly responsible for, the information you have at hand is that she is working with them to commit their atrocities. Again, it’s her death knight kidnapping and killing students, it’s her who got caught talking to the dubstepper.

>literally all of that is accomplished without declaring war on two sovereign nations they have already declared independence and would likely do so in the future especially since they were just violently conquered in the biggest war in history

>only usable on the worst route in the game
if you can't oneshot nemesis don't talk to me

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Missed out on this shit because I bought Mario Maker 2 instead and never played FE before. Is it easy to get the hang of?

isn't dark spikes better than luna? at least against DK?

>gives humanity their agency back
>with an authoritarian regime where all power positions in society are the sole choice of the autocratic ruler

Lawless begone

>"Is it truly OK to take any life you please all in service of an implacable just cause?"
>dude why doesn't Dimitri want to know the nuances of Edelgard wanting to conquer the continent?
There is no meaningful justification of Edelgard's actions from Dimitri's perspective. This game has shit writing but you're complaining about a non-issue.

The Leicester Alliance is complicit in the Almyran plot, and Dimitri would have never let her wipe Rhea and the corrupt Church off the map.

And this is why the BE route lays it on extremely thick to not take things at face value. No shit you'd come to that conclusion if you were doing just that

But user! She abolishes the nobility and establishes a meritocracy by putting all her noble high school friends in charge!

There's a difference between BE and the other routes with Edelgard's attack on the tomb. She wasn't thinking clearly when she did it. She spent most of her life without being able to trust anyone. She only trusted Hubert and nobody else. She wanted to trust Byleth and the BE students, but she still had to carry out her attack.
In a sense, she didn't want to betray them, but she had no choice. She felt regretful about it during the battle and she knew the consequences of her actions.
Pretty much the decision boils down to forgiving Edelgard for her recklessness, or not.
If you do forgive her, Edelgard finally realizes she can trust on Byleth with her life, just like she does with Hubert. And the rest of the BE cast too.
Even being the flame emperor, Edelgard helped Byleth take down Kronya and Solon, so it wasn't like Edelgard had this loyalty to the dubstepers. There was more to it than it.

Again, it was a decision to forgive Edelgard or not. To show mercy, or to be a ruthless "kill them" executioner like Rhea is for those who oppose against her and the church.

>Dragon Satan
oh my fucking god edeltards are delusional hahahahahahahhahaha

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CF is definitely unfinished but it is aboslutely better than the abortion that is Church

>with an authoritarian regime where all power positions in society are the sole choice of the autocratic ruler

Now you're just making shit up at this point user

Yeah, and what has the Emperor done that they accuse her of being responsible for other than attempting to pilfer a corpse and talking to a dubbstepper, which Byleth doesn't even reveal to the rest of the house? Again, I agree with that BE isn't the exactly the correct or moral route, given that Edelgard is just as misinformed as the rest of the cast, and is just as vengeful and wrathful as Rhea. And even as crazy as Dimitri in the BL route. I'm discussing how the BEs would side with Edelgard, given the information they have and their perspective of the situation.

That decision is that is supposed to be an emotional one. The "gut feeling", whatever. Hell, they make it blatantly obvious with the heart beat for both that and deciding to go to the coronation. The writers expect the player to understand from the gratuitous foreshadowing that Edelgard is the flame emperor, so deciding to go with her and side with her isn't the logical decision. It's an emotional one, hence the heart beat. Hell, the writers even play both sides by making Rhea out to be some authoritarian leader who crushes dissent in prior chapters, and then immediately validate the player's decision (either way) by writing Rhea as a monster when you side with Edelgard or having Edelgard go off the fucking deep end without her sensei to keep her in line.

And yet Edelgard's actions are her taking all the information she receives at face value and jumping to conclusions.

>edeltards are speedreaders
Why am I not surprised

Should I play lunatic on NG+ or a new save file?

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>Edelgard fans slander Rhea without realizing that she's a complete foil for Edelgard
>Dimitri fans seethe constantly at Edelgard without considering the context of her actions
>Claude fans don't give a fuck leave the thread as soon as the arguments start
Life imitates art

user that is exactly what happens in all the ending cards, Edelgard alone appoints the positions in government

>There is no meaningful justification of Edelgard's actions from Dimitri's perspective.

Dimitri doesn't know or cares to find out what Edelgard's ideological drive is. His only complaint is that people are dying in a war. The BL route is really lackluster because you don't even know why the war is happening. Apparently only the other two routes tell you why.

Forgive Edelgard? Why? For all you know at that point she is directly involved in shit like Remire, kidnapping Flayn and murdering Jeralt. She literally was trying to murder you and your entire class with crest beasts and her deranged pet assassin ten seconds before the choice.
And all you have going in favor of her is that she MIGHT have a good reason for all the death and destructions she's causing. You don't know shit about her motives.

>Rhea fans just want to fuck Mommy

The same could be said for literally every single lord. I can't blame her for believing the emperor exclusive information she's given, literally who could even dispute/refute that info? Rhea? Good fucking luck getting that out of her it only took 5 years of imprisonment and being in debt of her saviors to pry it out of her in GD. She ultimately still ends up being right, even if it's for a wrong, more tragic reason

Dimitri is especially guilty of this, Claude at least makes it a consistent theme of his route to seek out the truth

So the fans should fuck each other?

>She literally was trying to murder you and your entire class
She literally tells everyone to back off and that she doesn't want to kill them because the fight isn't with them.

I don't have the might, hit rate, nor crit rate in front of me, but Dark Spikes should be better

Problem being though most first runs hitting chapter 4 Death Knight will be borrowing her as the monthly helper unit, and I believe the borrowed Lys only has Luna as her best option

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>edelgard

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Still wanting the full version of the art at the end!

>just got the staff from lorenz' paralogue
>slap that shit on my favorite little albino girl

Cute and effective

>dude just let me rob your house
>wow, why are you fightingg back? How dare you defend yourself, now it is my godgiven right to gut you all like pigs! I dindu nuffin!
Fucking Edeltards

Objectively the best way to get rid of crests with the least bloodshed is to simply kill all nobles

>let me commit crimes and act shady
>only way to trust you is even after pulling this shit you somehow still forgive me
>its ok tho because i wasnt thinking clearly
wat
if a stoner rams his truck into a crowd while stoned and i forgive him will he trust me?
why was i retarded enough to forgive him

>For all you know at that point she is directly involved in shit like Remire, kidnapping Flayn and murdering Jeralt.
Except you don't? By that point you know the ones responsible for that shit were Kronya and Solon, the ones that Edelgard went and battled against alongside you, and Edelgard even hinted at you that the flame emperor had nothing to do with that.
You have in fact no reason why to trust Rhea, especially after reading Jeralt's diary and all the creepy shit she was doing, nor to why kill your student just because she tells you so.

Just because she initially appoints them does not mean their descendants would automatically inherit their titles like the current nobility system entails.This is explicitly stated

Even if they are her friends, who the fuck would be more qualified for many of those positions anyway that are still alive? We have zero way of knowing for sure but i'd like to think the people who successfully headed the reunification of Fodlan are pretty competent in the eyes of the masses

yes

*100% crit chances you*

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What's with the hatred for Caspar? He's a total bro.

I agree, the game split its story up to justify having multiple routes, but Dimitri has no reason to care about Edelgard's ideological drive. He's a stereotypical FE lord with a punished streak who is unconditionally opposed to killing innocents. It's like wondering why Chrom didn't ask what Gangrel's true motives were, it doesn't matter at that point and the conversation would just be
>why do u kill innocent people
>because it will make the world better eventually
>no killing innocent people is wrong
Which is the conversation that happened. The church is also a non-issue in that route because Rhea is out of the picture

muh crests speech (with megaphone) still plays in BL
you don't know EXACTLY every detail of why, but it's stupid to say you "dont know why" in the BL route

Like said, the decision isn't a logical decision in either side. It's an emotional decision. You decide whatever you (the player) feels it's the right choice.

Stop pointlessly arguing about it.

The true golden route were the friends we made along the way

What are you talking about? She literally tells Dimitri her motives right before the final map. There was a literal cutscene about it. Edelgard intends to topple the Church, abolished the nobility, and remove the important of Crests in their continent. Dimitri even counters her motives by pointing out her methods are Darwinian in nature that will only benefit the strong, not help the weak as she claims, that many will still have faith in the goddess, and that her aspirations of ridding the caste system will lead to failure or a system similar to it in corruption and tyranny, because whether she likes it or not, Crests play a vital role in protecting their country from invasion. And thus, those with Crests will have privileges and a status most won't have.

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Well yeah that's generally how golden routes go

>Edelgard even hinted at you that the flame emperor had nothing to do with that
>masked villain tells you they absolutely had nothing to do with all their companions evil deeds
>"sure, I'll take them for their word on that"

because in one route choice the pope goes absolutely batshit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and turns into a giant dragon, meaning that inhuman monsters have been running the world and the students kind of realize that maybe the dragon ordering them to murder other humans even as children is a bit fucked up

and in the other route nobody learns that

Yeah, if you trust Edelgard who is in bed with killers and kidnappers all this time. Working against you behind your back all thist time. Sure, she hints that she doesn't approve of what the slithers are doing, but she also implies that she can stop them at Remire. She doesn't. She never steps in, which implies that she approves of whatever they do as she never exercises her power to stop them.

not to mention
>for all you know the reason she's stealing these stones is to turn more people into beasts
Im not really sure we ever find out why she's trying to steal the crest stones
but it's silly all the same

In her discussion with Linhardt Flayn is pretty adamant she didn’t have children

Don't Speak Her Name and Twilight of the Gods are both better, but it's a solid third.

Was Rhea really that bad?

>try to side with masked villain
>"fuck you, I know you don't trust me"
Why even have a dialogue option there

Crests would've formed a hierarchical society anyway, even if Rhea didn't mislead about their origins. She's still wrong for placing herself at the head of it, but if she truly hated humans, wouldn't she have killed off every single Crest user and their bloodline to begin with?

Depends if you play dub or sub

>Crests play a vital role in protecting their country from invasion.

Not if you don't suck cock at diplomacy, as Claude shows. Incredible how Dimitri doesn't even compenplate the face and shows how comically simpleminded he is.

Even Edelgard mentions at least the prospect of it in her Paralogue's ending, seeing as the regions aren't bound by the teaching of the church. Dimitri is the only lord to not even contemplate the possibility

As someone who's only played GD, what are the justifications that characters like Raphael and Lorenz and Mercedes give for joining Edelgard?

The attack had already happened when Edelgard got there. And if you hadn't been paying attention, Edelgard wasn't in a position to oppose the slithers because she was being forced to cooperate with them. And yet she joins you in battle against Solon right there.

this
>shows up for the 1st time
>DK minds his own business
>FE does jack shit and keeps saying they hate the slithers
>sure ill join you
>LIAR
is that like something left as a placeholder for DLC? fucking what?

She essentially acts like a child waiting for mommy to come home rather than doing her job, and throws a tantrum when mommy says she doesn't love her.

desu she probably should have instead of pretending Unga the first Bunga was a swell guy.

SEETHING

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Do you know where we are?

>She's still wrong for placing herself at the head of it,
>outlived everyone
>took matters into her own hands after society killed all her people
>took an authoritarian stance based purely on experience (indech and macuil too indisposed/indifferent to the plight; cethleann and cichol intertwined, etc)
it's not the right answer, but it's not the wrong answer, it's simply the most informed answer possible, at least within the setting

She lost everything, her people were slaughtered and turned into weapons, including her mommy. Must be pretty mindfucking too see someone flail around your mother's remains and try to kill you with them.

>>Not if you don't suck cock at diplomacy, as Claude shows.
But Dimitri is canonically great at diplomacy, as his ending with Deude shows.
Crests are a literal non issue and useful in case of wars.

>The attack had already happened when Edelgard got there
Yes, and I'm sure all the other shit the slithers did conviently happend in a way that didn't allow her to stop them. Sure thing, buddy.
Your garbage waifu is alright with kidnapping, murder and bodysnatching, for all you know at the tomb.

>Edelgard wasn't in a position to oppose the slithers because she was being forced to cooperate with them
You don't know that when you make the choice at the tomb.

Wait, there's a CG when you kill Dmitri? I didn't get this, do you have to have Edelgard to personally kill him or something for it to trigger? fucking gay

is there a JP upload somewhere? I'm not touching the dub

>Edelgard intends to topple the Church
good
>abolished the nobility
good
>remove the important of Crests in their continent
good

the rest of your post is jumping to conclusions why is edelgard the bad guy? dimitri seems to be the brainlet who doesn't see the bigger picture

Fuck Rhea. I'm not going to kill my student simply because she tells me to. I never approved of her execution without trial or judgment methods, and I certainly wasn't going to approve of them right there and just do as she says.

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>if she truly hated humans
She doesn't, despite what some anons claim. She wants to control and pacify humans to prevent them from killing each other constantly, which backfires hard, but she is trying (and ultimately failing) to live up to Sothis's example. Blaming only the church for the crest hierarchy is absurd given that they literally give people superhuman abilities and would be prized regardless. Edelgard is fighting the church solely on ideological terms until Rhea goes crazy and starts burning cities down

>The Edeltards still believe Thales's lies.
Petetics

98% of the choices are useless, and for flavor only, or some support points
Its retarded, i know, but its a compromise for the nips’ favourite kind of protags, the silent kind
Hell even games like LUCT has choices that dont really do anything except some extremely arbitrary choices that just fucked you out of a recruit for no reason
>that princess chamber choices

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Honestly considering the level of trauma and grief she endured I commend her for not just cutting the bullshit and slaughtering humanity on the spot. Granted she probably couldn't have managed it alone but she coulda done some fucking damage.

Still, she is 100% responsible for the stagnation of Fodlan at the time the game takes place, all for the selfish reason of wanting to bring her mom back at all costs. There were definitely some benefits to the church in terms of stability, but it could never last forever

I killed him with Byleth and it still showed up, you sure you didn't skip it by accident?

Raphael doesn’t give a fuck about politics, he just goes with you. Lorenz’s family is friendly with the empire(in BL he actually does join the Empire and you have to recruit him back if you had recruited him in part 1). Mercedes just seems confused about everything but trusts in you

Feels good to be above it all

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>Lorenz taking home best development, best writing, and most change in favourability
Based
>Leonie second only to Cyril on the hate list
Even better

This, that's why I side with the girl who wanted to kill all my other students instead!

>Nemesis.jpg
>My ancestor :)

It played after the battle, but I also made sure to kill everyone but Dmitri last, then finish him with El for pottery reasons

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Mercedes is a devout believer and firmly opposes a corrupt church as it's "not what the goddess would have desired"
She doesn't really care much about politics or the kingdom to begin with.

>held back technological progress
>executes people for no reason
>secretly controlling the continent
>experimented on humans
You tell me.

How are the nobles not inbred as fuck? IRL nobles already are for less concrete reasons, in 3H nobles literally have concrete eugenic reasons to fuck their siblings and already do so to a lesser extent by only marrying other crest bearers.

Every single thread, without fail, the only responses are "obsessed" "seething" "you just don't understand all that shit was for the greater good"

Bingo user sure made an accurate board.

To be fair, who wouldn't want to be descended from this absolute chad of a man

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She doesn't kill anyone

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no kidding
>man had most of his family killed
>(attempt) to kill what little family he has left (dedue)
>shocked when he's royally pissed and 'obsessed'
>frame him her the murder of what even less family he has left
you don't do a man like that

Mercedes also has had her life ruined on multiple occasions by the Crests so she’s prolly very receptive to Edelgard’s ideals on some level

>even Edelgard is surprised you sided with her in the next scene
Glad the game acknowledges how absurd that "choice" was. Which of these two comically suspicious people is better, player?

Though she's not actually his descendant, she just got slither'd with Nemesis blood. But she actually believes that Nemesis was a great king.

That would be Seth, newfag. And after him is Sigurd and Haar.

Literally nothing of that is true. The closest is the controlling the continent, but she's pretty open about that.

Honestly, how much support would Rhea have if she wasn't obsessed with (you)?

Is this debate going to be the new empire vs stormcloaks

Is Dimitri that important in Edelgard's route? Or is it mostly her Edel vs Rhea?

>dude I agree with all of Edelgard's goals, why doesn't Dimitri?
user, the lords have to oppose each other or there would be no game. This is as dumb as Dimitri fans who claim that Edelgard should've just talked it out with all her enemies

>held back technological progress
Considering that Argathns is what you get when humans progress, this is reasonable. Also, Fodlan doesn't seem backwards compared to Almyra.

>executes people for no reason
Killing people that that stage armed uprising is hardly "for no reason"

>secretly controlling the continent
Secretly creating 300 years of peace, what a monster. Literally 3000 gigahitlers.

>experimented on humans
Literally never happend, unless you count implanting a creststone into Byleth to give him life.

bingo anons are the biggest faggots on the board

>Haar
Haar is flat out worse than NM Palla and SD Caeda.

Dimitri is a beta orbiter in BE route

>No no no, I wasn't trying to kill YOU!
>I was just trying to kill the students!
At last I truly see

I really hope the DLC tells more about him and the Agarthians.
And it better have more fucking opera, every FE should have opera from now on.

She is surprised about it because she had decided to betray her friends and her sensei to do her tomb raid. She had intended to walk down her path alone (plus Hubert) and wasn't thinking clearly at that moment.
She's surprised because you decided to believe in her and her cause anyway, and that's the exact moment when Edelgard didn't lose her sanity like she did in other routes.
The sensei milkies are too strong.

>executes people for no reason
So the western church attacking the monastery isnt a reason?
>secretly controlling the continent
Not so much since shit like edelgard can happen, not to mention humanity kept shitting itself
>experiments on humans
They were never human to begin with

>executes people for no reason
>after they try to assassinate her and steal holy weapons
???

Strongest unit in FE is probably Robin honestly, they can solo Awakening Lunatic. Seth is top three though, top five at absolute worst.

>Now which one of you I shall cook in an entirely non-lethal manner?!

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Dimitri is effectively the same level of antagonist Edelgard is in GD and Church. Not THE threat but a big glaring obstacle

What the FUCK was his problem

Samefag.

No student dies at the tomb no matter who defeats them. They all retreat and for gameplay (classic) reasons, they abandon your army

What would they say about Grug? That he raped the land and was the most unga to ever bunga?

So she still hadn't decided to betray her friends when she first tried to kill her friends?

I love the fact that you can kill him and join Edelgard after, making his death meaningless

>posts a webm of another entirely different route, in which she sets on fire all tiles except the one Bernadetta is standing on
Did you even play that route or are you one of those "LOL EDELGARD BURNS BERNADETTA ALIVE XDD" memers?

I know, it's just goofy that the biggest, most important choice in the game is made with almost no actual information. All these anons arguing about the routes like this is SMT are kidding themselves

Because methods matter, user. Edelgard was losing the war in the BL, to the point that she had only one base left. She even tried to kill Dimitri when she knew lost and Dimitri and Byleth were giving her a chance to join their side and reform Fodlan together. Dimitri actually agrees with her views, as well as Claude, but their methods employ reforming the Church and changing the structure of government so commoners have a say in their country or at least prevents Nobles from obsessing with Crests, similar to how the UK transitioned to a Constitutional Monarchy. While Edelgard just wants to destroy all of it together akin to the French Revolution and started the biggest war in recent history for her motives, while Dimitri and Claude managed to convince the Church to reform as well as the government, or have Byleth completely the rule as Archbishop and ruler of all Fodlan, which she/he also reforms.

Cope harder, Edelshart

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>Dont worry bernie there will only be fire around you with no way to escape but not where you are standing

the story is a lot easier to understand when you realize byleth, rhea, and jeralt aren't actually real persons but just personified bible allegories and laws. i saw this on reddit and have yet to see Yea Forums prove them wrong

To be fair, Bernie is still kind of fucked in that situation even if her tile isn't on fire. Beside having no oxygen she wouldn't be able to move off it without burns. I think people are dumb to say she fully intended Bernadetta to die there, though I do think she was more then willing to use her life to turn the tide of battle should it be necessary. She isn't flat out evil, but her means can be queztionable.

>can't recruit him or any Imperial generals on BE
>despite losing the Church units
>no Death Knight unit or story either
>shortest route by 3-4 maps
Fuck all these story secondaries, BE sucks because they didn't finish it

If you kill Dedue before he transforms into a Crest Beast, the Edelgard killing Dimitri is replaced with a scene of Dedue and Dimitri dying as bros together.

Never miss a chance to post this

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The problem with the Edeltards is that they say that Edelgard did nothing wrong. At least Dimitri admits that he is a monster.

I don't need to prove it wrong, that already sounds retarded to me personally so I'll choose to not interpret the game that way.

The problem with Edeltards is that they don't even play the game.

shortest doesn't equal bad. Filler chapters and padding aren't always better.

Even Edelgard admits that she's doing bad shit for her ideals. Baffling that a fictional character's fans express less remorse than the fictional character herself

I honestly didn't expect Rhea to freak the fuck out, I expected a compromise where you attempt to interrogate her

>lord attacking enemy unit
>they're bad
What?

I mean, at least post Dimitri saying he killed children if you want him to look bad.

>held back technological progress
>Considering that Argathns is what you get when humans progress, this is reasonable. Also, Fodlan doesn't seem backwards compared to Almyra.
Not to mention the Agarthans only became as advanced because Sothis shared her knowledge with them. You cant really blame Rhea for not being as forthcoming again.

or worse, they're speedreaders who insist they know what the fuck they're talking about
>even talk shit about hubert

Literally no one is saying she did nothing wrong. Starting a war for just about any reason is going to be a point of debate. But you have assclowns saying she started it for no reason which is fucking laughable and shows they haven’t played the game

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>Harr
Harr was good but only really compared to most of the units in his game. An average Wyvern Lord raised in 3H or an average flier in New Mystery can get shit way done faster than he can in RD.

How would you rank Church, BL, and GD from best to worst? I kinda wanna gradually do the worst route to the best route. Already did BE to satisfy my dick.

>>Considering that Argathns is what you get when humans progress
what, i thought they were at least partially ayy's
>Literally no one
you might want to consider that
yeah im nitpicking but still
you might want to reconsider that bigly

Wasn't trying to prove of any sort, just wanted to share boar

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>implying an actual conclusion to the Agarthans would be be filler/padding
Golden Deer is the only route with a finished story and it has the least relevant characters. Every route in this game drops the ball to give the other routes something to do

People who think Hubert did nothing wrong when he purposefully hides information from Edelgard instead of just telling her to calm the fuck down are insane. Ferdinand btfos him astronomically hard in their support

BL, GD, then skip church because it's just a worse GD with less lore.

>Filler chapters and padding aren't always better
There are multiple battles in BE that relagated to a single text box or two, it's rushed.

That, or with it bei g the villain route you as the empire are already at such an advantage that it shows just how powerful your force is.

Agarthans are just ancient humans. Sothis is probably as close to an ayy as you can get, but just a dragon instead.

your first route is probably going to be your best
I daresay whichever route you end up liking the most should be your 1st/2nd, if only because who knows if the new difficulty will actually make the game replayable a 3rd, 4th, or 5th time

BL>GD>Church BE is a love it or hate it kind of story.
BL is a complete story with a strong narrative with the main issue being not taking advantage of the setting. GD is Church but with extra bits added and Claude. Church is if you want to be family man and hang with Seteth and Flayn, as well as to fuck Rhea.

Church is a shittier and sort of harder GD since you have no lord unit after the time skip. Honestly between GD and Church all that matters is do you like the BE or GD cast more.

haven't played BE but he gives off an air of "whatever i do is probably more right that edelgard"

In BE they wrote themselves in a corner with the dubstep people. They couldn't defeat them before killing Rhea because that goes against their plans and everything Hubert says.
And they couldn't kill them afterwards because BE's main antagonist was Rhea and taking her down and winning the war was the grand finale. Having the route continue after all that would have felt completely off.

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Ferdinand does everything Edelgard wanted to accomplish except better and without widespread bloodshed. I wouldn't be surprised if there was just a Ferdinand with no Edelgard until someone at ISIS thought "hey maybe we should make one of the main lords a girl"

Congrats, you have the DLC idea that i like the most. She really needs her own route.

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Everyone agrees with Edel, even fucking Rhea. It's what El does to try to change the system that pisses the characters off because it involves invasion, war, being conquered, or even being the victims of attempted of genocide when you involve Seteth and Flynn into it. Claude's and the Church route is pretty much what would happen if a character decided to change society without resorting to war.

Is it actually the exact same story or just a similar premise with different characters?

>BL is a complete story
Yeah, the chapters where you stop the Agarthans, learn of Rhea and Fodlan's true past, and unify Fodlan are great.

Wait...

BL is good, but it leaves some plot points out, which makes sense but is unsatisfying.

His shtick is that he'll disobey her constantly so she can focus on slamming together action figures in her room like that scene in Spaceballs, or whatever the fuck she spends her time doing. then he just won't tell her. There's a support with someone I'm blanking on, where he they come up to him and they're like "Edelgard said to spare those people", and he cackles and goes "yeah but I disagreed". In his first support with Edelgard herself he literally tells her he's witholding information from her and won't tell her.

Also, he killed a bunch of people when he was like ten.

You go around creating your own army to beat Edelgard. In church it's (you)r idea in Deer it's Claude's.

>play BL, GD, Church
>Edelgard is a powerful opponent who captures Rhea and dominates the war for 5 years and is about to win before (You) show up
>play BE
>Rhea escapes, empire has less control over the war after 5 years, Edelgard is bawling her eyes out constantly because (You) are missing
Lame, I wanted to play as someone other than the underdog for once but I'm still stuck fighting as a separate strike force to kill the big scary dragon at the end

>In BE they had shit writing
Fixed

>Also, he killed a bunch of people when he was like ten.
That just makes him more relatable for most players.

Robin needs investment. Seth does not.
Wrong. Haar makes Radiant Dawn his bitch and performs exceptionally in every stage he is in. He can even make use of the BEXP trick like Aran can and boost his HP, Speed and Res to respectable levels.

U do stop the agarthans though, by accident..

All that stuff doesn't come up, which is why I say it didn't take advantage of the setting. The big thing dropped was the Tragedy of Duscar subplot being ending on a question.

Yeah, they'd have to make the Agarthans not jobbers or else it would've been lame as a follow-up to the dragon boss. But making you sympathize with Edelgard due to her tragic past and then cucking you out of a real conclusion with the people who ruined her life is so lame

The biggest tragedy of duscar is that fact that duscans still exist

>Non-binary and other genders were left out of the (gender) results (aside from tallying them in the first place) as they were too small to report on. This is why you might see something like 80% male players liking a character, and only 18% of female players, with the missing 2% going to other genders.
You're kidding me?

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We get it Ingrid, Glenn was a true knight.

ok so long story short hilda is still the most levelheaded individual in the game?
>bad feeling about monica
>bad feeling about tomas
>grossed out by crest weapons

I like that BL stops the dubsteppers pretty much by accident.

You don't stop them.
All you did was cut the weed but not pull out the roots.

> recruiting everone to BE
Disgusting and outofcharacterpilled

The golden final is BL.
Kingdom, Alliance and Church joined together and dubsteppers die.

>dubsteppers responsible for Tragedy of Ducsucr, Dimitri's entire backstory
>you kill them by accident with no fanfare
>dubsteppers tortured and manipulated Edelgard, motivating her to start a war with the rest of the continent
>they're killed offscreen in an epilogue
>Claude has absolutely nothing to do with the dubsteppers
>you absolutely BTFO them and fight their final boss trump card
What did they mean by this?

the dubsteppers literally run off on the last map telling you they're still around

>this weird Riyo imitation style
Weird

the ideal way to do it is to separate friends and family so they duke it out

With no leaders and the only remaining people being pretty much grunts, there isnt much they can do

hard to believe when they couldn't even spare a guy with a face at that point

You kill off Cornelia, Solon, Thales and Myson: all of the main leaders of that faction, to the point that they can't even use nukes on that run anymore. As well as their armies assigned to them and the armies who were fighting with the Empire until the very last map. They're pretty much done as a faction.

>Claude has absolutely nothing to do with the dubsteppers
more like claude's route has more to do with uncovering answers and finding the cause of the war was only natural

>What did they mean by this?
"Someone please help we have no idea what to write. Hey, does this seem as bad as if was? Be honest."

>Wrong. Haar makes Radiant Dawn his bitch and performs exceptionally in every stage he is in.
And Palla is the best character in a far harder game than his, and performs similarly crazy.
SD Caeda lets you clear that game, even in higher difficulties in a blink of an eye with her forged Wing Spear.
I've played RD a lot, user.

>Claude is the only lord who isn't retarded and actually figures things out despite having no personal stakes
BASED ignoring that shit at Gronder Field holy fuck that was dumb

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Kingdom, Alliance and Church together. The 4 live rats are easy to eliminate.

I killed Dedue before the transformed and I didn't fucking get that either, what the hell

As I recall we just killed everyone and then Edelgard said a few words about how it was a shame or something - no CG of any sort.

the boar prince died fittingly but that was the one
"what" moment for me

>all they needed to do to convince FE-fags that their story is good is give the continent a name and split the exposition into 4 parallel paths normies will never finish
Sasuga, ISIS