This is not Vanilla

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well lets see we 3 manned SM in greens at lv 40 and had it on farm
Try doing that in actual vanilla

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He asked for a fact, not anecdotal evidence.

one of us wasn't even lv 36 we kurb stomped everything. the tank is arms spec with a 2 handed axe

I don't believe you.

This is actual vanilla you braindead private server faggot. You delusional trash are casual carebear faggots that couldn't cut it in a real man's game.

My guess is most of the playerbase is full of zoomers who want to try what they missed out on, since they were a kid during WoW's golden age.
>they will think it was actually like classic

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>This is actual vanilla
Prove it

I don't care.
Its true.

>Everybody knows all the mechanics and optimal builds by heart now
>Dozens of online resources to check for perfect strats and compositions
>No unknowns, every enemy's full kit is available to research
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS IT SO EASY NOW

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>knowing things makes the enemies weaker
k

>Blizzard™
Wow, that was hard. Your game is dogshit, it has always been dogshit you were just an absolute braindead casual 12 year old shitstain so you remember it being """"hard"""".

So you don't have a fact to back up your claims aside from your own testimony. Got it.

It literally does. No more confusion over what types of damage can affect difficult mobs, no worrying over what items are best to pick for rewards or farm for. Knowing how to best play the game, and already being experienced at the mechanics as opposed to in vanilla when you knew nothing, makes a huge difference.

Can't believe how easy every dungeon has been so far.
They messed up elite stats for sure

Knowledge is power.

Why do you keep samefagging so obviously? You do know that it shows unique IPs in the thread?
Fucking redditor newfags should be publicly executed.

nah

>implying your the one not samefagging

That makes no sense, child. I need you to call your mother over. Hopefully she can form coherent thoughts.

PvE being too easy was always one of vanilla's biggest flaws.

So, where are the health and damage value comparisons in this post?

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i 2 manned dire maul east in vanilla after the group bailed halfway through the instance while leveling with another lock. whats your point.

>play any expansion
>can faceroll groups of 5 mobs

>play vanilla
>can barely solo 2 mobs at once

OP you might be retarded.

Go and do it yourself

>hehe, thanks layering

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You made the claim

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stop posting private server screenshots, dumb gaslighting moron

>blizzard defense force

Prove it's not on retail or GTFO

>the mob stat values are wrong because I said so
>it's not as hard as it was when I was 12 years old so obviously there must be something wrong

>implying i was 12

My bad, 10.

Knowledge is power you absolute fucktard.
How old are you?

Prove it's real first.

No, I didn't

Just like I remember it in 2005

You thought you wanted it.. but you didn't.

Zoomers btfo

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kek

But I played on elysium only 1 year ago

why would i have to prove its not on retail dumb moron, retail is fucking bfa.
also blizz literally said its fake:

"Rest assured that there are not people running around with banks full of (Thorium) Arcane Crystals or Black Lotus."

"We’ve seen screenshots of banks full of rare crafting materials, which we’ve investigated and proved false."

us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/layer-switching-is-the-problem-not-layering-itself/286941/20

dumb fucking retard, dont even comment in classic threads

>The enemy stats are way fucking lower
The stats that matter are damage value and hp. Now prove vanilla had higher stats across the board.

>"We’ve seen screenshots of banks full of rare crafting materials, which we’ve investigated and proved false."
Oh ok, I guess I trust you Blizzard, when have you ever lied to me before

Private Servers have said they made numbers higher on purpose for more of a challenge.

Whew thank god Blizzard said it. That makes it true, just like Neptulon's Story having a satisfactory ending and Garrosh not being corrupted by Y'Shaarj!

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>Developed by Blizzard

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Look. A childs mentality on a video game board. Classic

So you played a buggy emulated version of the game.

thats your brain in classic

>Private Servers have said they made numbers higher on purpose for more of a challenge.
Prove it

yes classic

Yes I'm playing Classic right now

>wtf it's not like my private server!!!!!
nost ruined the vanilla community

because it was more accurate than classic?

>I mean, I think

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You’re just remembering it was harder back then because you didn’t know how to play, you dumb faggot.

>nost
who

provide proof

yes, i'd rather believe some random screenshot on the internet
just go fuck off if you dont even play the game, post in some anime picture thread

let me log into nost and get your proof for you brb

That statement is harder to prove than his lol

Imagine thinking you can remember every detail from a game that came out 15 years ago and radically changed, and then use private servers, who barely had any actual data, as a rubric.

>didn't know how to play
Because WoW was really hard ot master those rotations of 2 buttons

This. It makes me roll my eyes when people say "Oh yeah trust Blizzard on this one, right" but I'm not gonna believe some random screenshot that looks like it's from a private server anyhow

>imagine defending a souless cash grab by activision

>"i-it's easier!"
>doesn't provide any stats or numbers to back up claims
either falseflagging retailcucks or genuine retards who don't understand that the playerbase on average will be better at doing shit due to greater presence of resources and guides.

Better ignore my intuition and trust Blizzard instead

I don't remember people on private servers aoeing dungeons on repeat to level

>retail is bfa
complete fucking brainlet spotted

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this
SM is littered with AOE groups

I don't remember private servers being an accurate representation either.

How the fuck can Blizzard analyse screenshots and tell they are fake or from private servers? That makes absolutely 0 sense.

Have we really come full circle?

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Its the same. Private servers uptuned everything

nice OPINION

Stenography

people honestly just werent that great back then

CYkqw6BjPcw
^ is a video of one of the healers in one of the top guilds at the time, death and taxes, which was one of the handful of guilds to actually clear naxx

>Anecdotal evidence
Nice job still providing no proof

It's almost as if they have a database, user.

folder name for bfa is _retail_ and _classic_ for classic so technically he can be right

I don't remember it happening in vanilla either
weird innit

>user claims to be vanilla player whilst shilling retail

don't even respond to this moron, he DOES NOT play the game at all. just comes here to gaslight. probably same guy who posted the fake arcane crystal screenshot in this thread, thinking it was real. actual brainlet.

wow, a database

Believe whatever, just dont play the game if you are so convinced.

>private servers made by guessing most shit made a more fun challenging game than Blizzard themselves
oh the irony

A database of what, photoshop experts?

REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD TO FARM FOR FIRE RESIST GEAR FOR MOLTEN CORE?

NOW YOU CAN DO IT WITH PEOPLE IN GREENS WITH NO RESISTS

>P-PEOPLE JUST GOT BETTER

LMAO

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>REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD TO FARM FOR FIRE RESIST GEAR FOR MOLTEN CORE?
lmao no
resist gear doesnt mean shit until AQ, when the real raiding begins

>Farm for Fire Resist Gear
>Not Mind Controlling LBRS mobs

UH OH SOMEONE DIDN'T PLAY VANILLA!

You can get a shitload of FR from mind controlling a mob in ubrs you dumb nigger

Is the UBRS exploit in classic? Im talking about the one where you sit before Drak and send IMP to LBRS final boss and he runs through the floor and brings a pack of 10 mobs up. Is that in on the legion 7.2 CLassic client?

No you retard, a database of peoples inventories. It's all server-side.

Elysium where MC got cleared a week after release too

If anything, bfa is the live version of wow. A retail live version. Classic is now a retail version too, unlike private servers.

dumb weeb

People were bad at everything including healing. So fire resist gear helped. Also they didn't mind control mobs for the buff.

youtube.com/watch?v=wPLe63DKH4Y

no it's, WoW database :^)

>we kurb stomped everything. the tank is arms spec with a 2 handed axe
Prot spec while leveling was always a meme.

Vanilla was braindead and casual compared to the competition of its time, you fucking retard.

YOU COULDNT DO THAT IN VANILLA THATS A FUCKING CLASSIC EXPLOIT LIKE RAID XP EXPLOIT IDIOTS

stay mad
it turns out it's not what you wanted because what you remember is a warped kid's view

You're baiting right?

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you guys are so fucking dumb. you never played vanilla. yes, there were mobs in LBRS that gave you fire resist. but that didnd matter because you lost all buffs when you zoned into and out of instances, so it didnt matter. you couldnt take that buff out of LBRS in vanilla, which you'd know IF YOU ACTUALLY PLAYED THE BRAIN YOU FUCKING TRANNY ZOOMERS

This was during actual vanilla

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LOL no you didn't

>using fire resist gear
>not just bringing 2 fire protection pots and killing the boss in 30 seconds with a raid full of rogues and frost mages
classic is a joke

Welcome to Mograine

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me and few irl dudes went into deadmines mostly on grays and barely leveled and without a healer and got by just fine. They clearly nerfed the difficulty to appeal to streamers and casuals.

People don't know shit and spellcleave SM runs are for retarded streamers

What kind of dumbass posts shit like this?

That what vanilla was
You were just shit like most players at the time

What difficulty? Vanilla wasn't the super hardcore MMO that you remember. It was constantly mocked for being casual.

Imagine being this wrong

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You are completely correct. Classic is not the original WoW experience. Its is based on a patch from two years after the game was released with lots of class buffs and content nerfs

>T-THE FAKE VERSION IS THE REAL VERSION....!

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Can't wait for nostalrius 2.0

We were shitty players bacj then

Now we are still shitty players with a better knowledge base, get over it

*schlurrrrrp* ahhh... 18 hour non-stop scarlet monastery runs... my teenage years sure were some wild times...

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Most people don't even remember patch 1.12 because they quit after hitting the wall in BWL

what the absolute fuck was blizzard thinking

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Based Razorgore filtering casuals.

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it was always like that you delisional buttcrack, you only neede fire resist because you suck in mechanics

It's literally the same shit. Even the feeling is much more close than what I would expect from playing vanilla in 2k19. Not exactly the same since people aren't first timing and the game isn't brand new, but it's closer than you would think if you played instead of shitposting lol.

Happy Cake Day!!!

edit: Thank you for the silver, kind stranger :)

edit 2: YIKES Sorry for the typos.

Those quests are the best xp grinds in the game

>all these retards thinking WOW was some hardcore game when it was nothing but a casualized as fuck version of EQ that all the EQ/DAOC/FFXI/SWG players laughed at
lol

Its true, as a lineage2 player wow was faceroll easy.

they;re fucking garbage
they're overcrowded, have shit drop rate, take fucking forever to kill and put garbage such as on you
whoever came up with this area should be nailed to a cross and burnt alive

nice private server picture, mongoloid.

The exact same character in 1.12 is about twice as strong as it would have been in much earlier patches.

Who gives a shit nigger? Majority of those games are dead and WoW is still alive for the moment.

In vanilla we used to do 3 man emperor runs no problem. We were all in end game gear though.

It's 1.12

A lot of things got buffed since the early days.

Jesus christ.

>VANILLA WAS HARDER YOULL SEE
>Raids get beat first week and worlds first 60 was done in 3 days
>NO NO NO ITS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE
>I MEAN ITS THE PATCH, Y-Y-YEAH THIS PATCH MAKES IT TOO EASY
>UGH ALL THESE STREAMERS RUINING MY EXPERIENCE

WoWfags are so fucking annoying.

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Nigger

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You realize by world first 60 in 3 days, it's actually referring to 3 days played time, right?

>Get up early
>Brew some coffee
>Not many people online. No queue
>Quest for a couple hours before work
>Socialize and relax
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

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1.12 was an end of expansion patch. A lot of QOL changes since 1.0. It will be interesting to see how it goes as new phases are released. Honestly it has been great so far. Slight genius changes and additions could be great but who knows if blizz is capable of subtle balancing

>This is not Vanilla
Yes it is.

>This is way too fucking easy like a kids version
It's the same. The difference is that a lot of people are better at vidya know, especially wow. Back then it was like watching a pack of niggers trying to get through high school.

I KOS anyone in a gay meme guild or with a meme name
I never buff people in meme guilds or with meme names, even if they ask or buff me

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>same old tired excuse

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>tfw lvl 40 and 90g 40s
I made it bros, I made it... I won't be able to wear plate but at least I don't have to walk anymore.

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>posting traps
>2019

Those generic American games are so boring and soulless...

Grats

wtf is this

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And? What happened to 60 taking months to achieve. Even shitty streamers are getting level 60 and its only been two weeks lmao.

It's like when you're over at your friends house late at night when he yawns, looks at the watch and says "man it's getting late huh?"

ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-general/375573-looking-inside-your-screenshots.html
Basically every WoW screenshot has a water mark

Because most of them are repeatedly running dungeons over and over again.
Back in vanilla nobody had a fucking clue what they were doing.

Not him but that's literally not true.

maybe becaseu back then you needed to use CC and it took time to clear a dungeon unlike now

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Why else do you think private servers beefed up everything? Vanilla is easy. If you have any sort of difficulty now maybe video games aren’t for you.

they beefed up nothing, copefag.

this, 1.12 is a joke.

Vanilla was the easy kids version a mmo of the time so it's completely accurate.

You had to use CC because everyone was hopelessly misgeared and uncoordinated.

yeah becasue we are all wearing epics now right and no retard noobs in groups now right?
fuck off.

Yes they did. APES said it was obvious and they would know.

ty

cope vanillalet
the game was always a joke, people just were too busy running around as bad specs in terrible gear
this is what happens when a game gets played for 15 years, it also gets solved
now deal with the fact that you will never get back your childhood

I said everyone was hopelessly misgeard and uncoordinated back then, I didn't say that everyone is in epics and pro today.

Learn to read before you vomit out your retardation.

>no you see it's simple: I spend 40+ hours of my life grinding away at this video game to get to the level needed to play the fun part of the game. Then I spend 3 hours preparing with a bunch of other people and have a small chance of getting a piece of equipment. I also pay Blizzard 15 dollars a month for this

I see...

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He had 79 hours played time. Why are you lying?

>all these 10 year olds growing up and finalyl realizing WoW was always easy
been waiting for this day, been so sick of you fucks talking about how hardcore vanilla was when it was always a casual as fuck game since day one compared to the rest of the genre.

>ALL THIS DAMAGE CONTROL

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WoW in its earlier state was a nightmare for a lot of classes, so it wasn't as much hard as frustrating. But 1.12.1 was the most casual version of it.

It's a fun social experience

This.
As a level 15 u literally cant kill 2 level 17 or higher. In bfa u can solo 20mobs as a rogue without healing.

1.12 is basically the pre Burning Crusade patch

no it isn't.

We did get better though. Vanilla wasn't ever hard and its difficulty wasn't why it was fun. It was a real non streamlined rpg that you could play with friends.

Bro 1.12 was like a month before the prepatch

Prepatch added new talent trees dufus

That's why I said a month before, dumbo.

>Tfw got to level 20 in 2 days
>Tfw was finally happy to get Ghost Wolf
>Tfw it has a cast time and takes about 2/10th of my overall mana
>Log out in Org and uninstall
No thanks

lol what? who cares if it take your mana, its a travel form you are going to travel when you get to the destination your mana should be fully regened. I feel like people who complain don't even know what they are talking about. Like compared to other mmos out when Wow launched. Wow's mana regen was insane.

user said it wasn't for him spergozoid. So it wasn't for him.

while it may not be for him, his excuse makes no sense. He could just say I am to much of a zoomer to play this boomer game, you guys are retarded and leave as simple as that.

yea, doesn't really matter or whether you know chess strategies or not, your skill's the same either way

why do people think vanilla was hard?
why do people not realize there weren't as many people that are autistically dedicated to games as today?
why do people not realize a lot of people could barely even run wow back in the day?
why do people not realize that people had no game sense besides their own limited experience and conflicting forum posts?
why do people not realize that a lot of people were just normal people and not "gamers" back in the day?
why do people not realize that the discrepancies between classic and vanilla honestly wont matter to their experience?
why do people not realize that they might just not enjoy what vanilla was?
why do people think that their personal experience has been ruined because some people abused layering?
why do people think that people didn't abuse bugs back in vanilla?
why the fuck do people think they HAVE to enjoy something? is it just because they asked for it? afraid of admitting they are wrong?
only people that have a right to complain about anything are tbc and wotlkfags who, if classic really is shit and dying, are the only people who will lose something, since blizzard will just be able to point at classic and say "nah people didnt like this, so its not really viable to recreate these expansions were we actually had some experience and were able to actually add layers of complexity and tune stuff"

The answer to 70% of that is Yea Forums's permanent tortanic mode desperately hoping everything is a total failure. The rest is the internet being stupidly tribal these days and fans of other MMOs actively wanting this to fail so the corporation they cheer for "wins".

This has to be bait. Pretty high quality.

I remember having to CC a lot in TBC heroics, and there was a lot more class diversity thanks to shitty specs like protection paladin was fixed.
I hope we get a TBC classic

What the fuck is up with people and thinking they're too good to follow the minimum level for dungeons? Literally three DM groups in a row where the tank is some lvl15 retard warrior who can't hold aggro on anything because he's in half white gear and missing every other swing.

He's right tho, the numbers are off. Early game you have crazy mana and hp regen which was never true and mobs don't hit as hard. I remember pulling two mobs in vanilla and crying.

>tfw level 22 huntard in Stockades pulls an entire room and a boss by walking backwards into a doorway during a fight

What?

This is not vanilla because it has this god awful layering that was abused so hard some guy made 160k gold by himself in no time. also the one who made it to 60 first abused layering hard.

also everything has like 500ms delay, most noticeable looting and buying shit from vendors or learning skills.

Not only that but all realms are on "Medium" right now on NA region, i´d say its fucking dead.

yah it quite disappointing
don't get me wrong i was little hyped but with news i lost it
i tried because my friend come back and its not bad but something is missing
it feels quite easier that it was suppose to be(still better than retail)
i am not sure if i want to continue playing and i don't even get to 20 lv warrior

my guild's already dead good thing I only wasted 10 silver on it

I absolutely LOVE how class absolutely destroys nostalgianiggers idea of how "hardcore" the game was.

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Fake and gay.

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>tfw ignoring the shitposters and doomsayers and just enjoying the game
>there's nothing you can do about it
`

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Even the pserver autists on APES said it was undertuned and a lot of very specific mechanics are different.

they are pserver retards they dont know real vanilla

>only 3 severs are medium pop on EU the rest are High/Full
easy or not Blizzard made fucking millions.

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>weeb
you lose by default

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go to the orgrimar bank and look at your mini map. In offical classic the minimap will show in the inside of the bank. This is a private server screenshot

>video game for kids
>This is way too fucking easy like a kids version

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blizz knows that. that's why they emphasized that classic was going to be on the 1.12 patch. people just didn't understand the message blizzard was trying to convey to them. it's not like blizzard was just going to come out and say "this is going to be easy as fuck but you'll just have to deal with it til you prove you'll pay to play this shit."

but you do and I should just take your word for it?

How does that apply to fuckin lvl 30 dungeons? Noone is either in optimal gear or build at that point. We are wearing the same shit and talents are barely even relevant. Unless you want to claim people were so retarded during vanilla, that they all used cloth int gear on a warrior.

I had more fun on Private Servers.
Is Kronos the only option now that doesn't have a completely dead player count?

Is it all trolling or is it true? Is it too easy? Are there dead servers? Overpopulated quest zones? I was going to start today.

Can confirm this happened even during BC. Unless you had 100% health and mana, pulling 2 mobs at once was a fucking gamble.

yep

>he posts on an anime weebsite

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>too easy
dungeons are a cakewalk in my experience, the world seems ok
>dead servers
no
>Overpopulated quest zones
generally no, because layering

I just want to say.
Waiting for Thrall to bang Jaina is worse than Inuyasha. This has been going on for 20 years and the viewers want action.

I keep hearing about dad servers. Which ones are they?

a database of everyone's bank content fucking retard

>there was a lot more class diversity thanks to shitty specs like protection paladin was fixed
Oh boy, now that everyone realized the "hard and challenging" delusion about vanilla to be just rose-tainted glasses and nostalgia, people are inventing stuff about TBC. TBC had absolutely horrible raid design: in vanilla you could bring in useless specs because the raiding was easy, in TBC you needed an optimal raid composition just to be able to clear raids. And optimal raid composition means 1 mage for buffs, at least 5 warlocks and at least 5 hunters for good dps(because fights were unironically anti-melee and you had to stack ranged dd for optimal dps), no elems/balance/other meme casters because they are taking a a mandatory mana battery(spriest) slot and to top it off, stacking holy priest that could spam CoH with their infinite mana in t6+ gear. Oh, also a mandatory warrior MT because you couldn't kill certain bosses without a warrior tank + drums rotation. On top of shitty raid design we also have
>flying
>daily quests
>fucked beyond belief lore
>resilience
>split world
>minigames
The only good things that was in TBC is heroics.

yeah TBC was peak raid stacking I dont think it ever got that bad.
the class design had to go through most of those things but I still wouldnt want to play through that again.
I'd feel like a retard being brought as a single debuff man with no other purpose.

Vanilla was difficult because of shitty hardware, shitty internet, shitty communication, and shitty online resources.
Now that everyone knows what to do, it's been boiled down to its most basic elements: Grind to socialize, and socialize to grind.
The itemization is super good though.

>The itemization is super good though.
lmao

>The itemization is super good though.
*blocks your path*

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4horseman 4bis tanks, the frost res for saph and KT, thaddius because people are retarded, patchwerk gearcheck.
i cant wait to see these guilds thinkin they pro for killin ony or rag fall apart in naxx 40, probably aq40, twin emps alone can fuck you around , more so than any mc/ony and only 1 or 2 bosses in BWL have fights where a above 70IQ is required
posted last thread didnt realize hit limit

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>ogtucker

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i love the 5-6 year old photo man..epic!

Anyone want to play/level together? I have zero friends that play WoW.
I'd be willing to reroll on a different server and start fresh

this
it was novel but the ability to solo level and the removal of dedicated cc/support classes just casualized the EQ model terribly

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>tfw played WoW right at launch for about one year then quit permanently
>thats the only version of the game in my mind
>it was always easy and the things people complain about classic seem to fit in with what i remember from back then

It was never a good mmo, it was a fun game sure, but a terrible mmo

why did Activision decide to go with 1.12 anyways?

less work

blizzard can't call it vanilla because wow was never out in this form.
they can't call it vanilla until all of the content is out, then they can call it what it was right before tbc they put out.
so whatever that was, which was tuned down for the later dungeons and i dont know what they were doing because they no longer concerned themselves with vanilla, and they only were concerned about teh retail fags who wanted the next thing to do.

its like a slot machine hasa to have new mechanics constantly. or the amount of randomness a slot machine would give you. which to me i dont see the difference between that and playing the game and waiting on drops.
i dont see the point of retailfags. they need to work on one game concept then make ANOTHER game. other than that they dont work for an audience, or not a legit one. one thats out for poker playing, which is not what i call a game.

They said it was the only version they managed to find from Vanilla.

>official archives from blizzard themselves
vs
>speculation and overturning from randos

based

I like how all these threads boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like"

>want to discuss classic
>it's physically impossible on Yea Forums
>I still refuse to go to leddit
>completely fucking done with /vg/
this kinda sucks
at least I have everyone ingame but I miss the old days of talking about FFXI on Yea Forums back during CoP/ToAU

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Wait if this is easier now.
Does that mean I can do stupid shit like warlock tanking and have it work?

Because I like the idea of goofing off with warlock / shadow priest tanking.

warlocks have death coil and spellpower stat is a thing. This aint real Vanilla

>Does that mean I can do stupid shit like warlock tanking and have it work?
Not enough aoe threat. But full t2 demonology warlock fully buffed has like 7k hp and like 30-40% of incoming damage reduction.

the original wow was always a babby game for retards, you don't get THAT fucking popular without pandering to nintendie-tier casuals like blizzard always does. you just didn't notice back then because you were 12

You also love crack

Any tips for playing a tank?

>cook up 50 sapper charges and deal 10k AoE Raid DPS
What the fuck, bro? Something's changed.....

lol what is real vanilla? yea ok mc and ony could be done with ragtag even 8 debuff slots. 16 helps on 1 fight in BWL , as in seriously helps. after that its same shit
"omG iTs not 1.6 wTffff bLizz not reaLvanilla"
god i hate retailfags and redditors hopping on bandwaggon, and more than anyone all the BFA players, GO BACK

WoW didn't get really popular until wrath, though.

How do I make money in this early on? I don't remember being this much of a poorfag in actual vanilla.

no i enjoy opioids like dilaudid, heroin, and opana.
sure there is vod of me smoking crack on stream but if i have 500 dollars 400 is going to H and maybe 100 to coke. i prefer powder coke so its easier to mix up speedballs. il do a few speedballs,, then rest off night just str8 H shots.
but i dont do that anymore, at least i dont use the needle ;)

>so much obvious bait
>people taking it
Whats the matter? Can't handle getting ganked?

>TFW Can't play priest because it just doesn't feel right without holy fire.
Having most of my old school leveling knowledge coming from TBC fucks me over in the worst ways sometimes.
Rogue is just as bad. You wouldn't believe how many spellcaster related deaths I have because I'm instinctively mashing the Cloak of Shadows button.

In old mmo days you had to farm shit and really gear up for encounters because usually half of your raid force was dead fucking weight. It isn't like things now where people come in with groups they've played with for years and all new members are vetted. There were a lot of shitters back in the day attempting hard content because nobody told them not to.

Even on uptuned private servers only the tank needs fire resist gear. Gulp one fire absorption pot pre fight, and wear that gear that boosts your DPS by 50% instead of worthless resist gear and maybe you would remember it being easy.
>j-just because our raid is super ultra mathematically optimized doesn't mean it should feel easier!!!

Yes, it does you delusional bitch.
Thats literally like 90% of difficulty in fucking raids, knowing how to deal with a gimmick/mechanic the most efficient way possible.

>he fuckin resubed for some goyim hype train

OH NO NO NO BROS WE ARE HOME AND WE ARE GETING ABUSED AGAIN PFRRT HAHAHHA

thanks for sponsoring the next 3 retail expensions btw

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CC wasn't a thing in Vanilla, it was BC with Heroics that CC became necessary.

You get holy fire at level 20.

>level main
>park in ungoro on devilsaur spawn
>buy 2nd account
>create 10 chars on a 2nd account
>invite main with alts
>whenever main is not layered delete alt and create new alt
>now you can farm devilsaurs across 10 layers
>unless you want to up the game and buy 3rd account for even more layers
But layering is completely fine and noone abuses it coz actijews said so, right?

>intuition vs facts
Are you retarded?

It's 1.12 Vanilla with 1.02 content, of course it's very easy it's practically TBC

2h enh shaman or ele for leveing and dungeons?

2h enh, easy

user maybe it's just that you aren't a retarded child anymore and are capable of basic strategic thinking now that you're older?

Just slapping with a 2h + windfury is probably more mana efficient for mobs.

>they're using pre tbc launch exp values
Wow nice server fucktards

Elemental's biggest weakness far and away is mana management, it makes them a poor choice for a lot of things outside of PvP (but even there people can abuse that fact)

No it is way easier, the talent system and item stats is for the last patch + dynamic spawns and layering abuseing.

Wow was called the carebear MMO when it came out for a reason

I personally wouldnt bother with ele till 40+ when you get elemental mastery and even then theres a lot of downtime so it kind of evens out anyways.

so much for the community :)

>Implying 3/4 of you niggers play the game

I dont really bother if they cant do it at low levels, My issue is that voidwalker is pathetic for tanking and aggro gaining and warlock can't do much for aoe and just either place a dot, searing pain and drain life.

like the idea of being a life stealing tank sounds fun, but its not really possible at low levels or even higher unless you gear out a lot. But I would very much like to see it being doable.

>860 gold

the community ingame is great
the rest of the internet is uninhabitable because of you retards

Because if they started with 1.0 they would eventually do the normal patch cycle that would bring it to 1.12 anyways and with it all the balance changes that people already knew about so there was really no point.

Ahhh classic. Just how I remember it.

Me and my squad had to leave gnomeregan after wiping a few times gonna take it on again this weekend

It’s mostly the early dungeons that are easy. Stockades for example is pitiful and BFD isn’t hard either

By "eventually" you mean "after fucking Naxx has been out", it really ruined the entire appeal of basically all of their world first accolades to do it this way for balance changes that would have happened in literally the final phase if they followed the timeline.

>But I would very much like to see it being doable.
Play Pandas. Demonology tanking is a thing, unironically.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Classic Wow. The play style is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the nuances in rotations will go over a typical players head. There's also your class trainers nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into their characterisation - their personal philosophy draws heavily from panderan literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Classic Wow truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the murlocs existential catchphrase "Mrglrlrlrlrllr" which itself is a cryptic reference to Illidan's epic War of the Ancients. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Classic Wows genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Classic Wow tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own.

p.s. this community is so good, FREE LINEN BAGS (with your mats of course)

p.p.s. when I die please play the Grizzly Hills music at my funeral

>Blizzard decides to make a faithful rereation of its former, better self
>Makes one teeeeeeny tiny creative change to the classes by releasing its final balance patch off the bat
>Whoops they ruined the game lmao
When will they ever learn not to EVER EVER EVER give nu-Blizzard any creative control???

the pvp in tanaris has been so good holy shit
people fucking everywhere and everyone's reached the point where they've been fucked over enough that everyone is attack on sight

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Every raid released will be loot pinata day 1 until the next one is released, people will be overgeared for those encounters, even fucking streamers guild have already downed MC (though some of them are retarded, I don't doubt they will wipe several times.)

Leveling and exploring areas and doing quests is the fun part of the game. End game shit is just nice bonus content.

so you're saying the game is shit

you literally can not do saph or KT untill farming all wings for multiple resets

t. nostalrius veteran that didn't even see AQ

i played feenix warsong and ED,
played with on ED, your prolly to new to know about all that tho

There were people with "game sense" going into WoW on launch. We had been playing UO, EQ, Asheron's Call and Dark Age of Camelot for years. Vanilla was only hard to the casual audience that it drew.

>i played peenix

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>Blizzard
You're still throwing money at them?
And yes, it's less than an hour's work per month, but it's the principle. Why?

>UO
Now that's a fucking classic release I would look forward to

to get a thing I enjoy
that's how currency and services work my son

warsong bgs made me who i am today, at least molded the way i trash talk and learned warlock pvp. you cant deny warsong had better premades and players in general than nost ever did

Fair enough, hope you enjoy it user

This game was always shit that casualised the genre

You can find a few pre-AoS private servers which are more popular than retail itself.

Dungeons seem easy because people actually know what level they need to be to properly clear them. SM has an entrance requirement of like level 21 or some ridiculously low shit, all of the dungeons do, people just learned over time what level they SHOULD be to do an easy clear, not what level the game tells you you can do the dungeon.

So it would've been better to just wait over two years by going through the same exact patch cycle then?

Vanilla was easy and I prefer it over the shitfest that is retail. There's nothing wrong with an easy game as long as it's fun.

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He can't.

how stupid are you?

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don't you have to be in the same zone when invited for it to layer you? running all those alts to ungoro sounds like it's pointless.

You retards have a really skewed memory thanks to having played in hardmode private servers and thinking that playing today with your good PC and extensive knowledge in the game somehow should be as difficult as playing when you're 14, being a keyboard turner that barely knew how to install addons and with a rig that doesn't net you more than 30fps in a dungeon. To be fair I'm glad you're mad.

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Be mad at people wasting their time
All hail the king of the virgins here, jesus christ
It's all so ridiculous

CC was useful in vanilla but never mandatory mainly because you couldn't guarantee a mage in every party and for most of the trip to 60 they're the only class with reliable CC. (rogues would often die if they tried to sap due to it breaking stealth even when fully talented, hunters were... hunters). CC's main use was to prevent the healer from having to spam heal and needing to drink after a single pull.

Classic is a bit easier since the class balance is set to the patch just before TBC, so a lot of QoL and needed spells are included (cat druids having a spender that isn't a fucking dot, christ that was bullshit). Noob protection for the first ten levels was probably also added just before TBC.

More than that people are just smarter now, or can get smarter quicker. Hamstring kiting wasn't a thing most people did back in vanilla, nobody thought to do it but I see every warrior doing that, shamen too. AoE grinding also wasn't that well known until around 6 months in. Spin hopping, staggering movement to auto shot timers, even just using keybinds instead of clicking were all also very rare and only in the realm of elite pvpers but everyone does it now. Even understanding the math behind our stats, I saw loads of hunters back in the day needing int and spell power gear to buff their arcane shot. We aren't playing the game on laggy connections at 15fps on a dell prebuilt either, something I remember doing all the way up to wrath.

1.12. We never should have started on it.

you people are never happy

they should qol up the entire game up to before and during 1.12 content now.
>cheaper respec costs
>straighten up flight path paths. you used to have to click on each towns flight path that it crosses thorugh now and re-take to the point you where going to to reach your destination until 1.11 or something.
>more bagspace, add1 8 slot backs we dont need to micromanage our shit. by naxx your bags are pretty bullshit even tho u do drop some stuff, the entire time its bullshit tho. maybe add 1 additional bank slot. big deal
>pet and mount tabs instead of invenotry space and remembering ur mount every time u go to aq40 from the bank.
just time savers and qol changes is all. OH yea retune some of the lower level raid bosses and some dungeon encounters maybe a tad too. maybe not too hard. maybe rework them.

or just leave it like this. without all the content unlocked. right? and see how long pepole stay around as they wait for all the content to actually come out to make it relevant
and everybody knows blizzard doesnt give a shit about the game when theyre planning for their next cash influcation to come in the next expansion which should of never been introduced. there is no audience for it.

Sorry what facts do you have again?

I was happy during nost and elysium

Either play it or don't
Fucks sake

You absolute fucking stupid nigger.

the report feature makes it fucking gay

All the streamers agree: Retail is done, killed by Classic. Now, how should Blizzard procede from here? Just pull the plug on retail and focus on Classic and Classic+ ? Move on to TBC?

go back to chinkland europoor

what dont you level up you fucking homo

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What's pepega?

Quality post.

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>hit 40
>get my mount
>lose all desire to play the game
????

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>still 5k+ Q every night

FUCK OFF BACK TO RETAIL AND TRANNYFANTASY 14 YOU HATE CLASSIC STOP RUINING MY NIGHTS

I watched Esfand last night and he was level 55 and autoattacking monsters the whole time. He would sometimes consecrate for like no damage. What’s the point?

>join RFD group advertised as normal as healer
>we get in
>warrior using 2hander
>ROUND EM AOE EM DOWN FAST XP
>not healing a tank, im healing 4 dps
>clothie nearly dying every pull
>SANIC SPEEDS GOTTA GO FAST
>pull starts when im drinking half the time
>mage dies getting bashed by 5 mobs and complains for me to rez him when druid doesnt have a rez
what the fuck you didnt say this was a cleave group, what the fuck is this stupid ass game nobody did this the entirety of my time playing vanilla to wotlk fuck you people I hate this game

go figure, classic kills retail and when people get bored of classic, kills wow

braindead RETard who doesnt know his roll as holy and healbot a warriorchad to victory

welcome to classic

heres a picture of me trying to fist fight a gnome on a boat

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>playing a caster in FFXI
>sit the fuck down for like 75% of combat because otherwise your mana literally doesn't come back
I'm glad to have classic but fuck me why did people think the most casual MMO on the market was anything else

>tfw horde doesn't have to deal with paladins and their dreams of being retard auto attack bots

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seriously. Im nearing 40 and 30s has been such a crawl. Had to jump between hillsbrad, STV, arathi, desolace, dustwallow marsh and 1k needles back to back all because after you do couple yellow quests all the other ones are orange/red
who designed this garbage. And I know it only gets worse

to be fair at that level a 2 hander is a warriors only chance at actually keeping things on him
sure you lose some armor not having a shield but at least shit will be hitting you instead of your group
unless the warrior is still losing threat with a two hander in which case he's just fucking useless

You now realize Vanilla WoW was never hard nor did it take a long time to reach the cap, it's just that you were young and new to MMOs and it takes forever to do anything or go anywhere

Anyone want t to play together?

it still takes longer than it does in modern MMOs, just less time than other MMOs of its time

>2 days played
>only level 30
>do tons of quests, still have level 17 daggers because I can't find any good rogue gear for the life of me

why

thank the retard streamers for wisening up everyone to this new leveling meta. these people are in for a horrible surprise when they realize not every dungeon is SM.

I was healing all party members including myself sometimes.

>kit

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Or maybe it isn't new and nothing is unknown? Its been a decade and a half almost - we have every piece of knowledge, every piece of mathematical data of everything from that peroid of time, especially with the private servers prior to this and if you don't know something you just watch the millions of videos or streamers who have everything available to them and at their disposal so you know all the fights, best equipment, best everything OP
We know the best builds the best rotations everything

People have the autism to obtain their BiS gear for every level on the road to 60. In true vanilla people just wore quest gear.

>Feign + Trap doesn't work

FUCK BLIZZARD

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>be 12 and retarded
>play DOOM
>think it's the hardest shit ever
>had to IDDQD my way out
>fast forwards some years
>still retarded but more experienced, not only in this game but others as well
>try UV +fastmonsters
>everything is easy as fuck
WOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS GAME????

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why are people trying to make others dislike something they're enjoying that's what I wanna know

>0
OH NO HES SOME KIND OF FROG NIGGER user

>log into retail
>literally 3 people in Boralus
oh no no no

People are aoe farming ulda and ZF so far as well

Thank you sweetheart but I am a poor fag and haven’t played :(

Fuck this stupid game. I can't wait for pantheon where nobody tries this zoomer meta

faggot

>all these years
>people complaining about nu-dungeons being all aoe no think
>"used to take skill and prep to run a dungeon it wasn't like this at all :("
>classic released
>turns out you could do the same in the original
>metafags (ie. mostly everyone) follow suit
MONKEY PAW'D

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The game was always for casuals you imbecile nostalgiafaggots, now you can embrace that and admit you like a casual game (I do), or continue to be a tryhard nigger without actually being good or playing hard games

most people who say this were talking about tbc heroics.

maybe you just remember it differently because you were a kid?

Black man gratuitously implements the oil :D

imagine bitching about this shit still
just fucking play or don't
you should've all knew what you were getting into

>why do people not realize that a lot of people were just normal people and not "gamers" back in the day?
This is false but everything else is true.

it does, its just a little complicated. But my friend got it to work as a macro after a day or so of testing

>kit

People used to actually play around and have fun in these types of games instead of following whatever Meta their youtuber was doing.

I thought I knew what I was getting into, I didn't know BFA mentality was entering this game. These dungeons are being treated like FFXIV speed run dungeons. Nobody did this when I played, I never saw it coming

>This is not Vanilla

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This. Leveling is not a magical and unique experience for everybody. A lot of people want to get it over with to hit 60.

It also brought a ton of new players into the genre. We will call these people, casuals.

It's a meme you use when you don't want to fight something but need a quest item in the area in solo PVE. Vanilla is piss easy, just time consuming. You were all warned.

Imagine getting mad for people playing the game how they want. I think aoe farming is gay too but guess what, I don't have to participate in it and I also don't have to get it lodged up my ass like everyone else.

I wouldn't be mad if they advertised it as such, but this is the new normal.

the amount of guilds that got reported for their name on my server is some funny shit
now all I see is "Guild AFUEQ" etc

what the fuck does this even mean retard? they advertised it as such? they were advertising AOE dungeon clearing? what the fuck are you trying to say?

anyone know how to figure out what layer you are on

kys, jaina belongs to arthas

playing this game makes me wonder. HOW DID IT GET SO FUCKING POPULAR? It's so unpolished and wonky. RuneScape was so much better at the time.

Yes, if they advertised their group as an aoe fast clear group that would be one thing and I could avoid it. But now bad dps and bad tanks who don't even know how to run a cleave just assume this is what dungeon running is and don't even call it that. At first it was enough to avoid groups calling themselves cleaves but now most randoms are wannabe cleave groups who can't pull it off.

Chillout retard my post was comprehensible

Please, she's been craving green cock ever since she helped them kill her daddy.

It's been 5+ years since arthas died and she's still crying about him in her mind with thrall nowhere to be found, fuck off orcuck
youtube.com/watch?v=Y4O8e7YZQus

MissMissMissParryMissParryMissMissMissMissParryMissParryMissMissMissMissParryMissParryMissMissMissMissParryMissParryMiss

Vanilla WoW was also easy, you were just a retard when you played it originally.

>thrall nowhere to be found
youtube.com/watch?v=tqwATrOCTCg

>duuurrr she gave him a friendly smile that means she loves him!
Off yourself.

Whatever you say, palicuck.

No one has abused layering hard enough to make anywhere near that amount of gold, nor did the world first 60.

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Implying Arthas won't come back and fuck your shitty horde up

I think the complaint is that Classic is not overtuned like most of the vanilla private servers were. So all the years playing them has given a false view of what it was like

Northdale was much more difficult in pretty much every way and it made the game a lot more fun. There is zero challenge in anything, you can fucking solo elite quests.

please delete this it doesn't fit my narrative ok?

>also everything has like 500ms delay
lmao what
everything else you said is wrong too but I've been on 40ms every day after launch day

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>neat boe epic equip for a shaman
I don't see the problem

most retarded post this week. Jesus christ

meant for

Arthas is gone m8, your best hope is crispy bacon man.

I know you can buff someone might flight, but can you attack the opposing faction?
Could you just get like a raid of 40 mages to fire blast people that fly by?

You really think Activblizz would recreate an entirely new model for Arthas just for that 3 second cameo in Jaina's flashback? He's coming back m8

I just hit level 58, I'm so close bros. Tomorrow is the final push.

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What did he mean by this?

>might
mid

Doesn't change the fact that mob values are undertuned as fuck, elites don't do enough damage and they don't have enough hp.

Sure and Zombie Daelin will show up in the next raid.

My connection to the server is 13ms and I get what he gets too. There was definitely a small delay in purchasing things and selling things in vanilla but it feels bigger. It even happens when you open your map. It's like it takes a half second to pull data from the server about where you have explored, where in vanilla the map was instant.

reminder that anecdotal experience is not evidence you fucking gradeschoolers lmao

what's a good NA horde pvp server for an alt?
>no zoomers/streamers
>not antisocial
>not alliance dominated
>stable economy

faerlina

Fairbanks

>not alliance dominated

literally every server, because horde is the normie faction

Daelin's model was used in like 5 cutscenes

Is it worth it v?
I played the expansion before BFA and it was underwhelming, i always wanted to try classic.
And is there anyway to get a sub cheaper?

Remeber when MC released with 1.12 talents and skills in the original game?

And just like Arthas he is just a figure in Jaina's backstory now.

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>fighting green level mobs

i dno why but i get agita whenever i see people say "inv for layer" in chat. I recently joined a guild and that's literally the only shit said in chat. Whatever the fuck it means, it's offputting as hell

>mfw we literally killed Whitemane before she could sleep us and ress Mograine with a group of lvl 40's

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no, you didnt lose the buffs. you didnt play the game. i did.

i made a couple sm groups with x3 warriors with WW axe and one shaman with windfury totem, grinded a level an hour

Being careful about killing whitemane was common by the end of vanilla. When BC talents hit there was a period where new players didn't know about mograine because whitemane melted so fast.

Are people retarded or did they really think Vanilla was going to be like unbeatable hard to level? My first character I soloed to 60 because my friends didn't start playing till 06. The leveling is slower, and certain quests need groups, that is the challenge. I mean Mages were fucking aoe farming forever. As for dungeons, only endgame ones really needed CC and that was only for a few encounters, or when the group was retarded and forgot a pat.

The game is fun because of the adventure of getting to max level. Not because of Raiding, or super difficult dungeons, that was never the case. But zoomers and streamers are morons so nothing new there.

mental illness/personality disorder

Because playing WoW is all about "press 2 buttons" and literally nothing else, isn't it?

retail kiddies are so hilarious

so it's just overestimated expectations?
was the game that easy and people didn't know how to play?

we can conclude that "back in my day" it's just a meme for old people to feel better

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These people are fucking idiots who never actually played vanilla, or if they did then they certainly don't remember it very well at all. They fall for dumb memes like warriors being "hard to level".
This shit was never hard simply more tedious and more time consuming. If it was actually hard not nearly as many people would have hit 60 in vanilla as they did. I started playing when i was like 13 in vanilla and i played a warrior and had no clue what i was doing, i tried to dual wield all the way through and i never even learned charge until like lvl 30. I was a clueless retard and i still made it to 60 it was not a big deal.

>WoW comes out
>anyone who had ever played an MMO before realise its casualised to shit and easy as fuck
>fifteen years later people actually think it was a hard game
What the fuck happened

As a first time player i regret picking rogue. I'm level 30 with just shy of 3 days played and the idea that quests at my level just involve constant dying because everything in the area magically pulls and waiting 1-2min between kills to heal is honestly retarded. Wish i had just chosen a caster and played the game on easy mode

it got even easier and we realized vanilla was the perfect balance of difficulty to quality of life

Seriously mages have always been AoE farming, now creating groups solely so you can spellcleave dungeons is new but I've never actually been turned down for a dungeon because I'm a rogue. Every group is just happy to have a tank and healer who cares about the rest of dps

I tanked vanilla as arms. I tanked on private servers as arms. All you need is a 1h/shield and sunder/taunt

Except arguably it didn't. Dungeon and raid mechanics are far more advanced than they used to be. The problem with retail and the reason I quite back in Cataclysm is that it did away with many of the more social aspects of the game.

And wrath made things much easier

>All you need is a 1h/shield and sunder/taunt

You don't even need those in this literal easier than vanilla version of the game.

what server are some ally anons on?

I just want legion back...............

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faerlina

I don't see a lot, or any really, hamstring kiting in classic. The "grace" range kinda ruins it.

youtube.com/watch?v=ky3V7LJunEw
Video by that guy who got world first 60.
>classic is harder than private servers
>classic is too easy and kids version
>private servers are even easier
>15 years of absolute toddler difficulty
>muh hardcore experience

Maybe because literally all information is provided to the player by guides. I bet almost no tanks thought "man I should demoralizing shout on CD" but currently it's broken anyways so that the more a tank pulls the less threat problems they have.

Reminder that apes said mc is boring and undertuned

I leveled a warrior just to tank on northdale and you couldn't do the shit that is possible in classic, the game is just too easy.

It was TBC where 3 of the 4 mobs in a grp needed to be CC'd

Ive never played vanilla, and im prob going to be main tank for my guild in MC, is it as east as ppl say

game has no content

>cc
>200 iq play

>>not alliance dominated
has this even happened in the history of warcraft
everyone alwats goes horde

This is not my beautiful home

Skeram
Daily big fights in Hillsbrad and STV. Desolace and 1k Needles also have great pvp. Both sides putting up decent fights, no one seems dominate. Maybe horde in 1k needles, but thats only when theyre mostly hunters

This has to be bait. I refuse to believe someone is this retarded

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I don't get the current payment system on the Blizzard website.
Do I not need to buy all of the previous expansions anymore if I want to play the retail version? It's only the subscription now?

Deviate Delight. It's where my horde character is. There are only two RP-PVP realms, which are the best and most comfy type.

I'm having fun. If people are mad, they are probably repressed homosexuals

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The game was always easy. It was always considered a much more casual MMORPG than games like Dark Age of Camelot or Everquest.

Oldfag MMO nerds got smug about people that played 'baby's first MMO', which was WoW in their view.

Hunters used jump/spin shooting back in vanilla. I remember a friend of mine couldn't do it but needed to for his Leaf quest, so he just used a macro/script to do it for him. That was before Lua and the macro nerfs though.

I'm having way more fun than I would've thought. I'm just leveling a few characters, I don't plan to raid or anything like that because I don't have the time anymore. It's great to be Home™, people are even social on my server.

They changed spirit/regen towards the end of vanilla. You were probably already 60 by then

I'm seeing a lot of dead noobs in the mines around Goldshire Inn.

That's what I like about it. Slow burn, relax and level. Not a bunch of shit on my screen telling me what to do and think

If it's too easy then why do streamers that faceroll retail content get their ass kicked in MC or even BRD?

Game is way harder than retail, that's it.

>people going on about MUH DIFFICULTY when all I care about is a singular world without expansion zones keeping people gated in there, world pvp being active and just use the dumbest pieces of gear to make a retarded character build
Killed the escort target of some priest undead almost near the end and BUR'd on his corpse. Non ironically the most fun I had in wow since a long time.

The pve racials in vanilla were good on Alliance, hence why alot of these speedrunners and guilds have so many gnomes.

>Spin hopping

what is that?

>tfw you a enemy dude spots you and starts running the opposite direction and tries to quickly Hearth
>feel like the T-1000 catching up to that lil nigga with Aspect of the Cheetah and raping him

No fucking gay flying mounts to save your ass in this game bitch.

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nost and elysium were 1.12 servers no? you're saying you miss pajeet tier spaghetti code and over tuned mobs?

>people getting mad that a kids game plays like a kids game

The Hunter Jumps, spins in the air and fires a ranged ability at a pursuing mob, then lands all while still going in the same direction. An absolute must for several Hunter-specific quests and a way to kite and kill overworld elites easily.

Who are the people that are so triggered by this game's popularity and resurgence?

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>people who've played WoW for two decades are upset that they're so good that Vanilla WoW is no longer a problem for them
Christ, you people will literally cry about ANYTHING.

It's good to know the fair weather fags will be gone soon enough. It's got such a calming feeling to it that retail just doesn't have

My buddy and i 2 manned SM Armory back in vanilla at 40. we were farming Herod to try and pay for our mounts. We were Shaman and Druid which probably helped a bit, but we still managed to do it just fine.
3 competent players can easily handle most dungeons as long as you can roughly fill out the roles of tank and healer among them.

Every time I think about playing this game I take a quick look at the lore and realize how tangled and shitty it's become. Also they never made ogres playable.

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zoomcleave has ruined the game, if i wanted to mindlessly aoe giant packs i'd play retail again

1.12 lmao

This, why hasn't blizzard at least nerfed the fucking respawning rates of dungeon mobs

t. rogues or hunters who aren't invited

Is this loss?

Nobody thought it would be unbeatable hard to level but I've died more times at level 25 than I did all the way to 120.

Subscription + the latest expansion (BfA) gets you BfA

the engine is clean and bandwidth isnt retarded low. not as much jank means people can react cleaner and faster

private server autists have been simming this faggot fucking version of the game since feenix was still around and you idiots are surprised?

>All the fucking retards who never played vanilla absolutely exposing themselves
Fucking lol. Vanilla was never hard, you fucking faggots. Seriously, everyone in the leaudp who was clamoring OMGGG SOO HARDDD XDDDD was exposing themselves as a Catababy in the first place.
Anyone who played private servers knew this. And as it stands private servers were even easier minus their shitty scripting and innacurate values on occasion.

>And as it stands private servers were even easier

They really weren't, retail vanilla is piss boring.

Stop exposing yourself, zoomer. Private server babs had easier armor values among other things. If this was a private server the Rag and Ony kills would have been even faster.
It's like nobody here actually played this shit beforehand.

Imagine trying this hard to fit in on an anonymous image board and just showing little you actually know.

Call me a zoomer all you want. I tanked for a guild on northdale from mc to naxx, the mobs in retail are way easier. They hit way fucking harder

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>think about playing
>remember only viable classes are mage/rogue/warrior/priest
>it's exacerbated even more thanks to 15 years of min maxing

lol fuck that. get back to me when Classic WotLK is a thing

Yeah people don't bring any but those classes sure..

ff14 and retail trannys

you could tank everything up to BRD with 2Hand weapons you literal nigger
I did that after release, the reason y'all think is easy af is, because 1.12 was buffing every class up the ante (some say it made them right) while also making every raid a joke

Im level 28, just did everything in darkshire

Im in the wetlands now, is that the right place to be leveling? And whats the next dungeon to be doing?

Wrath babies are arguably even stupider than Cata babies wtf

Have you done BFD and RFK?

You're right. It's almost non-existant in classic due to leeway. I've been leveling a warrior up to 50 now and I've only started doing it when I got a 4.00 speed sword and against mobs that attack very fast like cats.

>friend tells me classic is all about the pvp
>watch him hamstringing people from 12 yards away
cool came

You fucking retards didn't believe me when I said this was going to happen since the announcement of Classic. You absolute fucking idiots were so high on nostalgia that you didn't realize that the thing that made Vanilla enjoyable was the sense of discovery and not knowing what the fuck people were doing.

Today we have literally millions of man hours worth of min maxing done by neckbeards who have perfected every single aspect of powergaming this fucking game, and then you fucks go online and download your addons that provide you with the optimal leveling routes and gear compositions, rotations for each class and detailed guides how to steamroll any instance or raid in the game.

But no. It was Blizzard who had ruined wow, not the no-life scum that turned a game into a fucking excel spreadsheet simulator.

Neck yourselves you genetic waste.

hol' up. So you be sayin', only niggas can enjoy this game?
Wypipo literally were too smart fo dis

>when autists get bored of doing the same shit over and over and over again, wow is gonna die
WoW confirmed immortal

Nobody can enjoy this game because the community ruined it.

lmao shut the fuck up idiot

Go fuck your mother you whore.

>THE GAME IS DEAD HOW CAN ANYONE ENJOY THIS WHEN IVE CLEARLY SHOWN WHY I DONT LIKE IT

that's very true actually.
Remember it was the community in Beta that ruined the Paladin until TBC
Remember it was the community that pushed for ever increasing casualization
Remember it was the Community that bought chinese gold, which was the precursor for all Microtransaction bs we have today

What classes did you have, what level and what dungeon?
Before that information it's hard to tell you "WTF is this shit?".

Done neither yet, I guess I should be doing those

Why didn't you go to the other place?

the main problem are the mobs

What about them?
U kill them and they die