Japan is the saviour of videogames

>>Pokemon Sword and Shield
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Ripoffs of Japanese games like cuphead
So we can't make platformers or what?

Compared to any western single player game. We're not even talking about fighters which Japan is still god tier at.

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all vidya is shit except tetris & archon

>but also from movement and strategy both in the level design, enemies and weapons.

None of which are featured in any of the western games.

>Half Life 2
>focus on story

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Oh obviously both sides can make the games they want.

It's just that usually the only things western devs add is social justice. Cuphead didn't do anything new that Gunstar Heroes didn't already do, but just really pretty. I mean, what did Cuphead really add? Overworlds? Already done better in SMB3

HL2 literally has 20-30 minute unskippable cutscenes. I'd say that that's a heavy focus on story.

Just a reminder that Jap games sucked during gen 7 and Phil Fish wasn't wrong (at the time)

Maybe the only bad game on the Japanese list. Really says something about how bad the west is that that's the best you can do.

7th gen was pretty bad overall looking back on it. CoD meta, motion control trend chasing, capping off with Gone Home.

>Japan tried to copy western games (I blame Inafune for this, even though Dead Rising 1 was great)
>it didn't really work
>Japan goes back to the basics and just making Japanese games
>They're some of the best selling games of this gen (Sekiro, Resident Evil 2 remake, Monster Hunter World, etc)

Fish was wrong. Trying to copy the west was what killed Japan.

Also Fish is speaking high off his own supply, when being a hipster doofus making a western based indie and butt pumping journos in frisco for good coverage was considered the ticket to success.

I mean. Where are they now? Braid? Garbage. Fez? Garbage. Super Meat Boy? Garbage.

Not many people realize how much heavily indebted Cuphead is toward Gunstar Heroes. Even the whole Mr. King Dice board battle is taken from there.

I will say I can't believe they had the balls to do King Dice the way he is. He fucking owned my shit.

>That gauntlet and possibility of having to fight all those bosses (not to mention twice in a row, which at that point, just reset.)
>Having to fight him straight away after all is said and done

Found the devil unironically way easier.

>You know, it's not a competition.

If you have a preference for one and not the other, who comes out on top is very important here.

some of the most well known japanese games are literally turn based jrpgs where you have to be braindead to die in combat and all the focus is on some shitty anime story

>this shit thread again
Western action games might not be as complex or difficult but they make up for it in other ways
God of War focuses on sheer brutality and satisfying finishers and the Arkham games are more rhythm based with a focus on crowd control
Action games can experiment and cater to different niches not everything has to be DMC or Bayonetta

Western games are pathetic

>and the Arkham games are more rhythm based with a focus on crowd control

Spamming batswarm is not a skill nor is it challenging. Crowd control only ever gets vaguely interesting when you play one of the janky/broken characters like Robin or Nightwing as they can't break weapons for example

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it literally doesn't

Learn how to read I never said it was difficult just a different style of gameplay that’s fun in its own way

You have ADHD

DeS should really be replaced with something like DMC3 or Monster Hunter

youtube.com/watch?v=T-eJRgJVCZs

>Literally 15 minutes of story and no gameplay

OH NO NO NO NO NO

>this pasta thread again
Most Yuropeen vidya is tons better than that weebtrash you posted though.
Pic related is the best game this decade.
Also America is far from Western. It's more spic/nigger than anything else.

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Does hitman 2 have all the hitman 1 missions or did I misread that?

Only if you already own Hitman 1. If not you need to get the gold edition.

>Shitman: DLC Simulator

Maybe post a game that doesn't have to be completed in chunks because the devs are incompetent, huh?

>God of War focuses on sheer brutality and satisfying finishers

only the classic games. The modern one is just "Spam Axe Throw"

you said it had 20-30 minutes of unskippable cutscenes. You lied.

Why even include Half Life 2? It’s a completely different genre than the rest of them
If you really want to include a action focused first person shooter why not include Doom? Oh wait that wouldn’t fit your argument
Faggot

Gold edition does

It's a little thing called hyperbole, incel. 15 minutes is still pretty fucking bad - and that's a guy trying to speedrun it for YouTube

NuDoom isn't very good.

>base game has tons of content
>complain about extra shit to do he gets for free

Why do you have an us vs. them mentality? Batman Arkham and Nu God of War are great games with in-depth combat.

This year was fantastic

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The only good games there are Sekiro and Metro.

>Batman Arkham are great games with in-depth combat.

I already debunked that you shitter. They're garbage made for stupid people.

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Exodus is the worst in the metro series.

... where is the fun in something that inherently isn't challenging? Especially in a game that offers something literally called "Challenge Maps"? You can't worm your way out of that one.

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>disliking ace combat
I cant imagine sad your life must be

That says a lot about the rest of the games in that list.

>Hating DMC5 and REmake 2 and liking the worst Metro

Genuinely shit taste

Were you supposed to list good games?

>Batman Arkham and Nu God of War are great games with in-depth combat.

Batman has okay combat but Nu God of War's "combat" was just "let me spam throwing my axe"

Granted, Japan doesn't automatically make god tier combat for every game. Like with FF15's casual pandering (Tabata wanted it that way: novacrystallis.com/2014/09/with-final-fantasy-xv-i-do-want-to-make-it-more-casual-says-tabata/) "combat"

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>>base game has tons of content

What base game? It was a set of promises. It wasn't like Oblivion and Shivering Isles or something. It was Episode 1, and "maybe, someday, we'll release content"

I've always found the AC franchise boring as fuck. Pirated AC7 hoping they'd bring some fun changes but its the exact same boring shit it was 15 years ago.
DMC5 is also nothing more than DMC4.5 and I couldn't help but have a constant feeling of "been there, done that".

Why not include any of the other Doom games? Or Wolfenstein? Or F.E.A.R.?
Because you’re a cherry picking retard

RE was always shit.
DMC5 was meh. Played pretty much like 4 and V sucked balls.

We're starting to get into ancient territory. HL2 is considered a "classic". Why? I don't know. Duke Nukem 3D is better in every way. The jetpack in that adds way more to the gameplay than the gravity gun, which ultimately just ends up as a gimmicky and bad weapon that you only use in places like Ravenholm where they intentionally don't give you much ammo.

>I couldn't help but have a constant feeling of "been there, done that".
Yet you like generic fps in corridors n100
And bad hitboxes simulator n50

Realy makes you think

It’s fun to be Batman and beat the shit out of street level mooks
The Arkham games are supposed to be a power trip

Nice buzzwords. Here's your memepoints.

>shitposter thread

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Half Life 2 is considered a classic only because of the story I’ve never in my entire life seen anyone claim it’s a good action FPS
The topic at hand is western vs Japanese combat remove HL2 from your shit bait pic and replace it with a FPS that people actually consider to have good combat

>It’s fun to be Batman and beat the shit out of street level mooks

But I like when Batman earns it and it isn't batgod. It's why my favorite piece of Bat related anything is pic related.

>The Arkham games are supposed to be a power trip

Shouldn't that be the MO for a Superman game? I want to feel tough, not like an indestructible god. To me, the best kind of Batman game would be one where he would get punched sometimes and not react like a sissy faggot like he does in the Arkham games (oh no, muh combo!)

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It has a lower mechanical ceiling than some of the more advanced games, but 99.9% of players won't reach that anyways. Still a really fun game with a creative and fun combat system. youtube.com/watch?v=WGM3sM3EUDU

The game is pretty hard on God of War, you have to dodge, block, use arrows, balance stun gauges, and there are more than a dozen moves and special abilities you can purchase.

>Let me post a link to a youtuber video as proof that this casual game for retards is totes hardcore!!!1

Meanwhile let me post my Steam hours and I can assure you: These games are casual garbage

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funny part is ion fury is the better game

>and replace it with a FPS that people actually consider to have good combat

Name a decent one made in the last 10 years

If you like 2 hours game that looks and plays like shit

He definitely struggles and earns his victory with most boss battles
Normal thugs should never be a threat to fucking Batman

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Yes, I 100%'ed the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City too lol. Why would you play a series that you hated for over 200 hours?

I never said it had an extremely high skill ceiling, but you clearly aren't getting top scores for the combat challenges so you still aren't at the ceiling. It's just a fun game with an interesting combat system that takes the Assassin's Creed braindead combat style that many games borrow and makes it a lot more fun, challenging, and engaging.

Batman is still more mechanically deep than P* shit (God Hand, Bayo), the Soulsborne series (although they are better overall games), and arguably DMC (although DMC is difficult for certain air jugglings and combos just due to specific timings, the enemy AI and actual difficulty is completely braindead)

>2 hours
point and laugh at this retard

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>He definitely struggles and earns his victory with most boss battles

I like that picture, easily one of the worst designed things in gaming to date. It's not a boss, it's a checklist - and I don't mean in a Ninja Gaiden "use everything you learned" design decision, I mean, as a literal tick box.

>Normal thugs should never be a threat to fucking Batman

Heavily disagree. Batman is human, not god or super powered in anyway.

>Yes, I 100%'ed the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City too lol. Why would you play a series that you hated for over 200 hours?

I do a year replay of AA and AC. They're good breaks from actual hard and challenging games. I love Batman, don't get me wrong, and while I think the Arkham games do a total misrepresentation of Batman (Bane being maybe my biggest gripe, which is a reflection on Dini from BTAS), there's still worse Batman related things out there.

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3 good games in your list, and none of them will score as high as Control or Gears 5. Cope.

>Bioshock 2
>Bulletstorm
>Wolfenstein the New Order
>Doom 2016(and soon Eternal)
>F.E.A.R. 2
>Titanfall 1 and 2
>Ion Fury
Go fuck yourself

Those are all awful.

Some of these are so watered down, Wolfenstein the New Order in particular (a good game, but watered down), that I can barely dignify your post

>hard and challenging games
being? Pretty much no action game expects much from you even on the highest difficulty

>t-those don’t count
Pathetic

True for western games, Japanese games have asked a lot. Western action games don't ask shit from you unless they're PS2 era God of War, and that was just copying DMC.

I play both Japanese and western. Now name them you dumbfuck shitposter.

>all this trash
only bioshock 2 is decent

>one of the worst designed things in gaming to date
Nice hyperbole Mr Freeze is widely considered to be one of the best bosses in gaming and it fits Batman’s character perfectly how he takes him down

>and none of them will score as high as Control or Gears 5. Cope.

OH NO NO NO NO

THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

WESTERN GAMES ARE IN CHARGE HERE

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>F.E.A.R. 2
>Titanfall 2
>trash
Absolute shit taste

>Nice hyperbole Mr Freeze is widely considered to be one of the best bosses in gaming

By retards, yes. Do people ever think or just agree like chirping lemmings? There's nothing good about this """"boss fight"""". It doesn't test skill, and when you have a guide, it's absolutely trivial.

I gave you a list of FPS games that people consider to have good combat, it doesn’t matter what your opinion on them is
If they’re so trash you can easily replace Half Life 2 with one of them and have a more accurate bait pic to start these garbage threads with

People don't realize the West isn't a few years behind. It's several decades behind. Since it seriously rejoined the industry in the 90s it took a very different course, failed to learn from what the Japanese were setting examples of, and meandered and tried gimmicks of all kinds (such as open worlds) and "freedom" focused RPGs, to multiplayer that focuses on addictive EXP systems as opposed to good game play and many different kinds of disasters. The West isn't a few years behind, it needs a hard reset. Take it all down, it will never be good and what we are seeing now is the culmination of decades of shit design compounded on itself.

They don't count because they suck.

Just play indie games. Western indie games are better than the majority of shallow garbage Japan produces.

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It does test skill since you can’t just spam one move over and over again and have to position Freeze right for different takedowns
Facing him head on is suicide so you have to be tactical which fits Batman’s character and fighting style
>playing with a guide
You’re a confirmed faggot

HL2 being there pisses off the Yea Forumsalve drones.

And to be honest, of the ones you suggested, I'm not really crazy about any of them.

They're not AVP2, they're not FEAR, they're not NOLF. That list of games you offered are just kinda... eh.

>only bioshock 2 is decent
if you like big drills and you're faggot then I can understand why this is the only one game appealing to you.

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>It does test skill since you can’t just spam one move over and over again and have to position Freeze right for different takedowns
>Facing him head on is suicide so you have to be tactical which fits Batman’s character and fighting style

That's not skill though. It's you running around the arena trying to remember some of Batman's bullshit takedowns like the one where he chokes people out with feet (which I had totally forgot about at that point)

Explain how every single game on that list sucks when they reviewed well and have large fanbases
What do you see that most people don’t?

Those are shallow garbage too.

>modern reviewers
Puhh-lease

But it does reward players who remember and have experimented with his different takedowns during predator sections

>ignoring the large fanbases

lol I would like to see the garbage that you play.

>But it does reward players who remember and have experimented with his different takedowns during predator sections

But why should they when the bread and butter take downs work fine and the feet choke is one of the worst ones to use?

Because they experimented?
They didn't just want to use the same boring strategy of inverted and stealth takedowns and wanted to try other strategies?

I'd rather play Persona 5 than any game in that image, and I hate JRPGs

Predator was always the easiest part, and why AA disregards it for its final sections

Meme aside, why has Japan been dominating the gaming business for four decades along with the US?

The US is the sole world superpower so they can be naturally dominant in any field but it's a totally different story for Japan.

Mcutard detected

America, Europe and Japan buy Japanese games

America and Europe only buy American and European games. Japan rarely buys games from those territories

Furi is one of the best action games ever made and better than 90% of Japanese games

show me someone winning nu god of war with a single button

I play with your momma's pussy lmao

> Japan will never make anything that requires a fraction of the skill that CS 1.6 does
Why are chinks so adverse to anything that takes any skill unless they basically forgo all classic Jap game development like From Software did with Dark Souls, to the point where DS can barely be considered a Japanese game?

Fighting games?

I'll give them that, but fighting games are for complete autists.

FPSes also require different skill sets, shame Japanese people cannot think on a 3D level like that

Yet shooters continue to remain the dominant genre, and the best selling game of all time isn't from japan
cope weeb

Pokémon Sword and Shield isn't saving anything but gamefreak's time

I guess Fifa is also a great game franchise. And there is nothing great about point and shoot gameplay, retard.

> And there is nothing great about point and shoot gameplay, retard.
Japan is literally the country of the light gun game, arguably the genre that takes the least skill, akin to playing candy crush on your phone.

why would i ever play indie trash when i can just emulate the classic japanese games they're ripping off for free?

>b-but that one old genre
Cope. And I'm not a Japanese obsessed faggot. Just someone who sees shit in both sides.

>half life 2
>heavy focus on story
Ok

No, you're just a massive retard. Calling 1.6 "point and shoot" is literally sub 10 IQ shit.

Because technology improves and the bar raises. Indie games overall have better graphics, sound, physics, hitboxes, AI, controls, and level design than retro games.

>West: use the strengths of video games as a media to create an immersive story, with enjoyable gameplay
(Hotline Miami, Portal, HL2, Mass Effect, Starcraft...)
>Weeb games: soulless grind and "it's obtuse so it's good"

>thinking that his autistic repetitive masturbation simulator for poor 3rd world kids is an actual videogame
RUSH B SUKA BLYAD

CS is shit anyways. what do you do, other than point and shoot at the enemy? Randomly throw a grenade and spam that shit knife attack that has piss poor of an impact to it?

t. has never played CS or anything that requires any sort of mechanical skill
Holy fuck bros, how can anyone be THIS retarded? When did Yea Forums become a place where someone who has obviously never played 5 minutes of fucking Counter Strike can be found?

You're in a low effort bait thread what did you expect?

It doesn't "focus" on the story, but there is a very clear intention to immerse the player within the game world. The writing, level design and sound design makes you feel like a part of an interesting and living world.
People that go "hurr durr glorified tech demo" must have stopped before Ravenholm and Grigori.

>simplistic input with multilayered gameplay
>multilayered input with simplistic gameplay
I'll take west.

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youtube.com/watch?v=ABL4tWBP9EM
Watch this shit and tell me, there doing anything that looks outstanding or fun. It's just the same shit, even the latest CoD is better

What a dumb thread.
>Pic has a shooter (which only needs one combat button, and even then has some unique mechanics amoung shooters) and 2 games from the same series because they struggle finding games to actually prove their point.
>pic also has FromSoft which is so much better when each weapon has 2 attacks, and Bayonetta which is just complicated rather than deep.
>Proceeds to spout a short list that funnily contains of most of the jap games that will/did come out recently with half being rpgs or waifu simulators.

Terrible bait, go back to playing virtual novels, faggot.

????
I never said anything related to fifa
>And there is nothing great about point and shoot gameplay, retard
are you aware of what game kickstarted the Japanese video game market? It was a little game called Space Invaders, which was a shooter

>Because technology improves and the bar raises.
meanwhile in reality, indieshit uses graphics that are worse than the retro games they're ripping off. they also rely on lazy shortcuts like procedural generation, filling the screen with spikes, etc. as a substitute for actual level design and progression. on top of that, they're usually made by sjws who promote political agendas in their games.

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half-life 2 pretty much invented all the cinematic cancer that infests today's western aaa games.

Cope. I hate half of jap games so I have no idea what you're saying.
Your good game criteria is that it sells well and has a lot of copycats, instead of the quality and game design that went to it. So I mention Fifa a game franchise that has a lot of "fans" and sells very well. And I never claimed that japd don't make shooters.

>Animal Crossing Horizons
unless you have a vagina or a "vagina" why would anyone play AC?

You don't actually play indies you just post a strawman shitpost. And of course you need to bring up SJWs lmfao.

There are many great indie games out there and the best indie games are much more refined and complex than the best retro games.

Compare for instance

youtube.com/watch?v=DH_3s2nivDQ
vs.
youtube.com/watch?v=yn2B0hU1IGM

youtube.com/watch?v=fhfrO2krQUE
vs.
youtube.com/watch?v=Em7UwOOBvlA

youtube.com/watch?v=Jzk77R7si0I
vs.
youtube.com/watch?v=vzyRNjHGGpo

youtube.com/watch?v=rpRQE-UFAl0
vs.
youtube.com/watch?v=1qctKI_t5eY

youtube.com/watch?v=FarUc_Yh_YY
vs.
youtube.com/watch?v=bxTWUeXqNWc

>comparing modern indie games using modern tech to old games limited by old tech

cherry picking at it's finest

Are you retarded or what? That is the whole fucking point you dumbfuck.

>Because technology improves and the bar raises

Guy he's replying to claimed retro games were better than indie games still though so I think the argument made is valid. Only a select few retro games are good enough to overcome their now severe technical deficiencies.

When I think of Western games I only think of stuff made in the last gen and before
Modern Western stuff is bad, as is most modern Eastern stuff

the only good western game was doom, so much they keep doing same iterations of the same over and over again...

Yes. Thank you for agreeing with me.

Sounds like falseflagging but western devs almost always shit the bed at making their combat system actually nuanced.

> western devs almost always shit the bed at making their combat system actually nuanced
> meanwhile in japan, turn based games are shat out at mach 5 speeds
weebs have to be the most delusional people around.

The Western AAA industry has been absolute dogshit this entire generation. The only people who fail to realize this was normalfags and casuals.

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*are

> fucking Yakuza, one of the most boring games ever made
> a bunch of shitty VN-tier games
> a mediocre, generic JRPG
is this really the best gooks have to offer?

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>GoW4
>easy simplistic combat with one button
Retarded weeb confirmed.

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> eastern games require giant amounts of mental gymnastics to even begin to seem interesting
> this illusion is immediately shattered the second you actually play them and realize they're terrible, having bad gameplay and a terrible story to go along with it

>post GoW4 while complaining about microtransactions when game have none
>post Persona 5 while praising lack of microtransactions, where you have to pay almost twice for some skins and new pokomens
Weebs are cancer, goddamit.

>1 minute segment in 40hr long game
Yep, retarded weeb.

Cope City, USA

>1

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>mario
>metroid
>sotc
>dmc
>ape escape
>KATAMARI DAMACY
>terrible

>playstation
>Japanese games

>oh no, character have to move in other to progress in game
Good thing other weeb games you posted don't have it.

Its one thing to fill your list with mediocre tripe but you shouldn't stoop so low as to include literal garbage like Pokemans, Omega Labyrinth and MUA3

it doesnt have any guns on it user
how can it be good

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When is Japan going to make a good first person shooter?

>playstation
>not having japanese games
Is this autism?

> ninpedo games
Yeah, no thanks, weeb. Go back to jerking it to drawings of 10 year olds.

>first person shooter
>good

KH3 was horrible, not only in story but gameplay the most.

>first person with gun BAD
>third person with melee GOOD

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Never. Designing a good FPS is infinitely harder than most type of shit gooks put out (JPRGs, rehashed fighting games, platformers that have barely changed since the late 80s).

Something like Counter Strike 1.6 would have never been made in Japan or even sold well, because japs don't like games that take actual mechanical skill and constant improvement, and don't allow you to look at anime titties for 90% of the play time.

imagine hating your race so much

never, because "good first person shooter" is an oxymoron.

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RDR2 was better than any game on the left, sorry.

> tries to make a shitty image to prove his point
> gets to cherry pick which games to include to make the west look bad and the east look good
> somehow manages to make both look like shit

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you know what, I’m about to say it
guns > swords

>Octopath
>amazing graphics
Ok, now I know this is bait.

> turn based game
> jrpg
> a game literally made for children
> another game literally made for children
the absolute state of weebs.

what fucking manchild typed this out.

lots of variety you might be into something there

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>with over 999 diferent chalenges

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>a phd in gaming

this is true but when it comes to rpgs its the opposite
jrpgs have the depth of a puddle but wprgs, especially much older ones, have tons of depth to them

Imagine thinking these images help your argument, jesus christ.

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you are the one trying to argument

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When console FPS becomes good
So never

Seriously, get help.

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There is no argument, Japanese games are objectively inferior in basically every way.

>most beloved characters in video game history of all time
>nintenbro
Pfffffffffffffffhahahahahahahahahaha
Maybe in shitty chink land

>if a game has a gun that means it plays the same
yikes

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isnt that the argument people say about mario games?
a tenis game and a racing game are literaly the same because it has mario on it

why not treat ak47's the same way

also last one

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I honestly don't know what is the point of these pictures. It has to be bait otherwise it makes no sense. Good job proving that you can find 4-5 fps releasing every year in the west while you ignore everything else and pretend those are the top anything.

No one has ever argued that, they just said that the game is for children because it has mario in it

worst part about this isnt even if the guy is or right or wrong, dont care much for shooters. it's these fucking god awful images hes posting to seriously pertains to mental illness.

seek
fucking
help

>find 4-5 fps releasing every year
i can make 5 lists with 2013 fps games alone user

Good for you, that still mean shit when you ignore some of the best games every year because they don't fit your narrative. Literally the second best selling game year after year isn't a fucking fps.

yeah
its a sports game
soccer or american football
every single year

So this is the power of weeaboo incel autism?

This has to be a new low, I have posted here for quite a few years now and have never seen anything quite this pathetic. It's like someone is actually losing their mind right here in front of us. I think you need to get some help ASAP, not kidding.

why can't the west git gud compared to japan?

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Unironically all left games are better here.

So? Isn't that variety? No to mention all the other games that apparently don't count. Fallout 76 is in your top 2018 because it fits your retarded narrative but God of War, Spiderman or Ac:Odyssey aren't. The west is ten times better than Japan when it comes to variety no matter how much you cherrypick. And your series of pictures only prove that as every year the japanese games are the same handful of genres.

I think an argument can be made that these are examples of mass marketed games most people are aware of, thus indicating what is most popular in the east and west.

I prefer western games as the east does not make the kind of games I like. Games like Baldur's Gate, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Thief, Atom RPG, and Age of Wonders just to name a few.

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>Fallout 76 is in your top 2018 because it fits your retarded narrative
if it wasnt one of the most hypped games of that year the buthurt it caused by being bad would not had been so big

TOP games doesnt mean GOOD nor BAD. it means most hypped / best selling games

>Forza 5 also came out that year
the cherry picker didn't even try lmao

>are the same handful of genres.
>GENRES
>PLURAL OF GENRE
you might be into something there user

I asked this a couple hours ago and OP never responded. He is just a braindead shitposter who barely actually plays games.

>TOP games doesnt mean GOOD nor BAD. it means most hypped / best selling games
Except a lot of the shit in your pictures is neither. Wolfenstein TNO didn't sell shit and wasn't hyped at all. Dragon Age Inqusition sold more and won goty that year but it doesn't fit your narrative.

>you might be into something there user
Having the same 4 of 5 genres every year is variety? The west has a lot more than Japan and that is a fact.

>The west has a lot more than Japan and that is a fact.
yeah you can shoot nazi's in first AND third person
realy variety

Imagine having your mind so completely ransacked my seasonal anime that you not only played Cold Steel to completion, but played the sequels as well

Show me the japanese equivalent of Pathfinder Kingmaker, Total War Three Kingdoms, Crusader Kings 2, Slay the Spire or Baba is You. There is entire game genres that Japan has barely even touched.

>all those ancient games
>the same games every single time
next you going to talk about how thief and the first splinter cell are better than metal gear 1986

>all those ancient games
Except CK2, which was just an example i could have used any other recent 4x, all those games are from 2017 at least. Literally two of them released this year you fucking idiot.

No point arguing with the weebs. Unless the game has anime titties to look at, they think it's about shooting nazis in first person.

>Pathfinder Kingmaker
japan makes tons of rpgs and they're way better than that garbage.
>Total War Three Kingdoms
>Crusader Kings 2
romance of the three kingdoms and nobunaga's ambition predate total war and crusader kings by at least 20 years.
>Slay the Spire
chocobo's dungeon for the wii had roguelike gameplay with card game elements (known as pop-up duels) over a decade before slay the spire came out.
>Baba is You
i hope you're not seriously retarded enough to believe that japan has never made a puzzle game.

What about a gunsword or a swordgun?

>japan makes tons of rpgs
> calling JRPGs, proper RPGs
Weebs are retards confirmed

a sword that is a gun is shit

however a gun that becomes a sword is a great idea

>they're not autistic dungeons & dragns simulators, so they don't count!
i notice you're ignoring the rest of the post that btfo'd your pitiful "arguments."

So you just decided to prove my point by scrapping the bottom of the barrel there trying to find some examples. As i said, Japan barely even touches some genres that are constantly getting games in the west.

they are the kind of people that think that 'is not a fighting game unless is a clone of street fighter"

how am i "scraping the bottom of the barrel" by citing well-known franchises that have been getting games for decades? let's not pretend like total war or pathfinder are mainstream with the normalfags.

> muh anime tiddies
> she's not a 10 year old girl, she's a 1000 year old dragon
Yeah, no thanks. I'll stick to my proper RPGs and you can stick to your weebshit, pedo.

the only people bringing up anime tidies here is you user
are you angry because western games bent the knee to the sjw overlords and cant have cute girls on it anymore?

wrpgs are full of lowbrow isekai tropes (ultima), trannies (baldur's gate; cyberpunk 2077) and furfag/scalie pandering (elder scrolls) among other things.

> weebs are obsessed about "cute" drawings of girls in videogames
> this is because they will never see or touch one in real life
> ironically enough in part due to playing weebshit
Tragic. Japan should answer for ruining the lives of so many Amerimutts. But really, the country's doomed anyway because of their shit-tier insect culture.

yep i think someone is obsessed
guess i touched a nerve there

dont worry user
those games will bomb anyway eventualy companies will stop sucking sjw cock

>using a space after the arrow

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>how am i "scraping the bottom of the barrel"
>chocobo's dungeon for the wii
My point was that there is a lot more of different games coming from the west compared to japan and that is true no matter how much you cherrypick.

That bamham city cover gets me every fucking time. What the hell were they thinking?

> he doesn't want his posts to look cleaner
Back to your basement.

how is that bottom of the barrel? final fantasy is as mainstream as it gets, and the mystery dungeon franchise has been around since 1993.
>My point was that there is a lot more of different games coming from the west compared to japan and that is true no matter how much you cherrypick.
if that were true, you would have been able to come up with examples that japan hasn't done first and/or better.

>if that were true, you would have been able to come up with examples that japan hasn't done first and/or better.
What a stupid shit. RTS, 4x, FPS, simulators of all kinds, city builders, crpgs. All of those are genres that get constant releases every year from the west and that Japan barely ever touches as i said a couple of times now. Because you can find one example doesn't invalidate my point, japan mainly ignores all of them.

>This post is based and redpilled,epic upvote in Reddit Yea Forums and cripplechan.

>This is bait,at first glance they are western games in there you retard shitposter.

>RTS
pikmin
>FPS
Resident evil 7
> simulators of all kinds
youtube.com/watch?v=r4K2LsoFMHs

kojima is even making a walking simulator now
stop reaching and go play your generic fps games now
there are evil nazis waiting to be killed

If you are able to name a japanese game for each genre i mentioned from this year or the last, as i could definitely do with western games, i'm willing to admit you were right.

>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard. You are fooling anybody you fucking inbreed trash incel neonazi with you rhetoric of underage poster weeb and edgyfag.

Saying Batman only uses one button isn’t any different than saying Ninja Gaiden. They both require multiple buttons. Play the Arkham games on lower difficulty is where retards created the argument that you can play the game with one button. Play the games on hard and you’ll get destroyed in seconds.

Now obviously ninja gaiden is much more difficult and complex than Batman Arkham games, but the combat is surprisingly deep if you faggots stopped playing them on easy.

Show us what difficulty you’re playing at faggot

I still hold that Ass Creed 2 was the best utilization of the BamHam combat system

>PhD in gaming

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Asscreed 2 is the only one in the series I beat and I didn’t care much for the combat.

Batman Arkham games(especially when they had new game plus where you have no warnings when someone is going to attack you) had a lot of challenge and complexity on hard mode. It takes one mistake to get you killed when you’re outnumbered and you get multiple punches in the face in a row.

Having more than the bare minimum doesn't make it more complex. It may be more 'complex' than the arguments levied against it but is still a simplified system compared to any action game of merit. Pretending otherwise is just being ignorant to what makes action games worthwhile to play on higher difficulties.