The purpose of a review is to say whether a game is good or bad. If you submit a negative review purely because you want to hurt the game's review score in response to a recent controversy, you're not submitting a valid review, and your review should be removed.
Steam/Metacritic have every right to remove review bombs. A game's review score should represent its quality, rather than represent the number of angry manchildren who are pissed off about a recent controversy.
The only people who will disagree with this sentiment are whiny manbabies whose hobby is screeching impotently on the Internet.
You gonna say that the GTA V review bombing was bad?
Grayson James
Sorry, I'm not familiar with each and every minor, inconsequential nontroversy that caused an avalanche of whiny, entitled manchildren to jump on a hate bandwagon.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Connor Reed
Fuck off back to era.
Elijah Jackson
Games are constantly being changed and updated and sometimes a game that was good at one point might have become shit due to a retarded update or greedy business practices. Review bombs like that are necessary to let people know that the game might not be worth playing anymore even if it had a positive score in the past.
If you're review bombing a game because someone said something that offended you on Social Media then yes, you're retarded.
Cooper Nguyen
>enjoy game >devs become retarded >ruin game >update my review >wow you are so childish please kill yourself bye
Caleb Kelly
Cool story bro
Oliver Howard
talking about games in any way instead of playing them is childish. yeah, include me on this one
Eli Bell
the concept of reviewing is honestly childish
when valve introduced it i ignored it until i found i could use it for trolling. it only tells if something is popular among a certain group or if a product is broken, it isn't a metric of anything. i wouldn't make a buying decision based on that
Caleb Rodriguez
If review bombing is the only way for a consumer to voice his displeasure, it's not childish but necessary until devs pull their heads out of the collective ass and manage to talk to their consumers outside of blocking them on twitter.
Jose Fisher
I think it is pretty clear ingame changes is not what OP is refering to in this case. Honestly if anything it is negative to consumers overall too because it makes a quickly surveyable indicator that was at least slightly better than professional reviews just so much more unreliable when people are gonna go full retard over "onga bonga dey wrote this on twitter" or "No kongolesian zwanhala tribe language pack".
Yes, it is the way some mongs vent their anger and get back at the developers I guess, but is it the right way when the thing in question doesn't have anything to do with the game itself? I don't think so and have to agree with OP.
>Developers saying things I don't like on twitter justifies it!
Hunter Brooks
>caring this much about reviews I have no sympathy for people who need to get told what to think. Developers dont actually ever get feedback from there unless the game was selling like shit in the first place anyway.
Dominic Mitchell
You're such a baby, you should see how Japs review bomb. They burn that shit to the ground.
Benjamin Watson
I mean people do this for everything, look at movies. Oh no someone got metoed, now all their previous movies get shit reviews on RT.
Oh no x CEO smoked weed or did something bad, all previous employees shitpost on Linkedin.
Everyone acts like this, calling gamers childish and/or manchildren is extremely hypocrite.
John Sanchez
Game fans have no other avenue to make devs listen other than money, and your only options are >don't buy the game >leave a bad review It was inevitable that review bombs would happen
Xavier Anderson
>It's effective Highly doubtful, doubly so since it is largely removed. >because it's simple. Something being simple does not make it effective.
Alexander Myers
have sex
Luke Morgan
fuck you zoe
Samuel Bell
Yes?
Bentley Cooper
>>ruin game but if the game isn't changed, how is it ruined?
>pic showing review bombinb >player hrs almost all in the thousands You what?
Daniel Carter
Like your mind right? Its simple and ineffective
Ethan Stewart
it's implied in devs become retarded It can apply to any type of action deemed retarded
Parker Jackson
>photoshop texture overlay why is this fucking 2007
Jace Cox
If its so irrelevant then why do you care bitch? Get something better to worry about lol.
Ian Lopez
I'm honestly surprised that even after all these years Valve still hasn't just completely done away with the review system because of all the headache it causes them.
Nicholas Morgan
Paid, shilled reviews are chilidish.
The purpose of paid review is to blatantly promote game before its release to get the IGN sticker on cover. You are not submitting a valid review and it should be never read by anyone.
Metacritic have every right to remove biased reviews which. A game's review score should represent its quality, rather than represent publisher interests.
The only people who will disagree with this sentiment are whiny are so-called "gaming journalist" who hope to get attention from publishers.
FUCK YOU OP.
Xavier Richardson
>I mean people do this for everything True, but we're on Yea Forums-videogames, so hence we focus on the videogames. Does their irrelevant (in terms of game quality) twitter ramblings and intreview/whatever outbursts relate to the game though?
Juan Allen
It's so niefective the corprations cry to Valve to "fix" it and Valve can't even fully delete it and leave a *yeah this was review bombed by the way so people know something happened. If it had no power it would either be ignored or Valve would clean purge it.
Chase Reyes
but if the game already exists and does not change, how is the dev dissing your orange man affecting the game in any way?
I wouldn't know, but I'll give you a perfect example of a dev becoming even more retarded than normal: Vermintide 2 recent expansion.
Dominic Campbell
review bombs are good and help the devs realize when they've fucked up. We've already seen examples of them fixing their shit quickly and their scores going back up.
Noah Cooper
Yes, it does when those ramblings insult their fanbase "Death of the author" is a dead concept
Xavier Cooper
>why would a dev being retarded affect your opinion on whether they deserve support Are you retarded?
Kevin Long
Review bombing is a childish way to spin people voicing their opinions on a change that was made to the game.
Luke Young
i'm not the one that has to drop a game because of what some people said on twitter. >I wouldn't know then why argue that point?
Not even OP, but that is going to be your argument?
Tyler Ortiz
>what the fuck, why are you giving a game that you don't like a poor score?! Fucking retard OP.
Jacob Young
>then why argue that point? I said I would not know your question about the orange man, you are clearly trying to gotcha about something I never stated or argued.
Where is the response about the rest of the post I made? am I wrong in that example?
Alexander Parker
>i'm not the one that has to drop a game because of what some people said on twitter. You are just the one getting assblasted people are.
William Perez
sage for gay thread with faggy op Sorry, if you want a post with more substance, here's one: Writing fucking retarded essays about your favorite toys as if your opinion matters to literally anyone else is childish. Grow up and stop being a faggot. Whatever you think a "proper" review is lacks every bit as much validity as a review bomb.
Landon Wilson
Fixed version:
Paid review is childish.
The purpose of a review is to say whether a game is good or bad. If you submit a paid review purely for own interest, you are not submitting valid review and your review should be removed.
Steam/Metacritic have every right to remove paid reviews. A game's review score should represent its quality, rather than represent publisher's interest.
The only people who will disagree with this sentiment are entitled gaming journalist who will screeching impotently on Twitter.
Evan Diaz
That just means those other groups are acting just as childish. You really shouldn't be using the flaws of more popular groups as the gauge of acceptable behavior for yourself.
Ayden Thomas
>let me bring attention to this issue >but it doesnt matters tho :^) Again, why have this conversation then?
Jacob Butler
Retardation comes in many forms user. A bad update to the game can be seen as retardation (which would deserve a review bomb) just as much as someone posting something stupid on social media (which probably doesn't deserve one)
Juan Brown
>game is bad >don't buy it >but the devs make anti-trump comment on twitter >buy the deluxe version anyone else do this?
But that isn't what OP is talking about, he is talking about review bombs based on factors irrelevant to the game's quality.
Jason Anderson
Anyone with any common sense can look up why it was review bombed. If a bunch of people get banned on GTA online for shit they didn't do, I want to know about it (even if I don't actually care because fuck that normie shit). By all means, bomb the shit out of patches that break the game, terrible online implementation, etc. It does bug me. If Randy pitchforks wants to be a lolcow, go ahead and milk them tiddies.
Jayden Ortiz
Literally who cares.
Jayden Richardson
Truly the mind of a liberal works in nonhuman ways. Posts like this help me not feel sorry for them when the dotr comes.
Kevin Carter
the cold hard truth, OP BTFO
Jonathan Anderson
>The purpose of a review is to say whether a game is good or bad. If you submit a negative review purely because you want to hurt the game's review score in response to a recent controversy, you're not submitting a valid review, and your review should be removed.
Critic reviews have had nothing to do with the actual game for about 5-10 years now.
Gavin Phillips
New user here, you said absolutely nothing about the Vermintide 2 expansion. Literally nothing. Just stated its existence. There's nothing to talk about there, because clearly we both know everything there is to talk about it. And it's a perfectly fine expansion and you just have shit taste. Prove me wrong. Actually say something, literally anything, worth holding a discussion about.
Camden Nelson
WAHHH THE PURPOSE OF REVIEWS IS TO SAY GOOD THING ABOUT PRODUCT AND BUY MORE PRODUCT
NEGATIVE REVIEWS ARE THOUGHT CRIMES AND SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED
>buy bad game because someone says fuk blumph I mean who is this hurting but yourself?
Leo Morris
if I'm so wrong then why is it negative? I bet you don't even have over 2k hours played before it released, not even gonna waste my time explaining why its bad, just open any negative review, they are all universally equal at explaining the problems.
Have fun on your derelict ship.
Ethan King
so it's bad when they do it, but it's okay when you do it?
>Review bombing is childish. it's more than childish, it's retarded. imagine reviewing books or movies like this.
Joshua Morgan
Well the heart of the problem here is that players and devs have no reasonable way to communicate with each other effectively which is why people feel compelled to review bomb because that's the only way for them to get heard.
Players and devs have no reasonable way to communicate with each other because more often than not the devs that do get review bombed develop a vitriolic relationship with their playerbase. And this relationship is developed because game journos and their incestuous ilk thrive on the revenue created by outrage and division so they fan the flames further.
What I'm saying is, game journos are complaining to Steam about reviewbombing when the reality is they're the very reason they happen in the first place.
Easton Hill
b&r
Jace Lewis
People should be able to review however they want for whatever reason they want and saying otherwise is just authoritarian trite.
Cooper Howard
There's nothing wrong with review "bombing," aside from you getting invested and seething about it.
Especially on steam, where players paid money to shitpost their thumbs down/not recommended button
>but muh chargebacks >muh negative press Unless you want to implement anticonsumer policies, feel free to deal with it or ignore, like a sane human bean.
Cut the shit and stop making your posts overtly long if all you want to say is "I'm not talking to you, I'm right, fuck off, /thread". If you want to convince me you're not a fickle bitch and that reviewbombing is fine, say literally anything substantial coming from your own mouth and not parroting others like an NPC.
Landon Hill
Yet here you are. Crying about "little minor consequences" Why are retards like you always so naieve to their own hypocrisy
Charles Ramirez
he's a trumpanzee, he must always fall for weak bait.
>The only people who will disagree with this sentiment are whiny manbabies whose hobby is screeching impotently on the Internet. Agree with me or you are my enemy and get insulted. This is why I hate you and much of the extreme left and right or whatever place you came from. It's always you either agree or are my enemy. Even if valid criticism or counter points can be brought up. Nah, lemme just insult you with every buzzword available and ignore the discussion. Also let me ban you since this was never a debate to begin with. I fucking hate the current state of politics. What happened to the days when we could sit down discuss shit?
NO DON'T PRESS THE THUMBS DOWN BUTTON THE AVERAGE SCORE NOOOOOOOO
Brody Brooks
A review bomb USUALLY indicates that there is something fundamentally wrong with the game or the developers. Usually serves as an alarm for any would-be consumers. Fortunately, if you scroll down and use the ability to read, you can easily find out what this said issue is and use that to aid your decision on if you want to own the game or not.
For example, an update forever broke the balance of the game or rendered it unplayable in general, that would definitely influence your decision. If the devs said something stupid on twitter, you would be inclined to completely disregard those opinions and look at older reviews instead.
I don't know why its so hard for people. Then again we live in an age where people look at numbers and colors instead of the content of a paragraph.
The reviews are still there and any smart person can still see what the drama was all about.
Austin Reed
The reason review bombing exists is because there's a massive fucking disconnect between the consumer and the devs. The devs just block "trolls" on Twitter, so all constructive criticism is filtered. Journalists are actively standing against the consumer at every turn. What exactly can we do? How can we let our voices be heard?
Review bombing works, long term objective evaluation is not affective. You're just shattered because it's an effective countermeasure to industry bullshit that's hard to stifle because stifling it creates a streisand effect.
Remember guys it was okay to review bomb and get people fired when ResetEra was doing it. Now they have had their favourite toy taken from them they suddenly want it banned and sperg out about it. Really makes me think.
Ian Torres
Are you asking me to do something or are you explaining what you're currently doing?
>The purpose of a review is to say whether a game is good or bad. If you submit a negative review purely because you want to hurt the game's review score in response to a recent controversy, you're not submitting a valid review
Nigga, I'm not fucking Gene Siskel. It's current year and 'review' doesn't mean what it used to. If you open the floodgates to user critique, you have to accept the good and the bad. The only thing that should determine whether a review stays up or not is if the author owns the game.
You don't. You sit down, you shut the fuck up, and you learn your goddamn place.
How long have you worked in the gaming industry, user? Have you EVER programmed a game? No? Then odds are, you have no fucking clue what the working environment is like at all. It is not your fucking job to tell me how to program a game, and it certainly isn't your fucking job to berate me over it. I can guarantee you that absolutely nobody here understands how game design works. You're the type of douchebag that just vacuously says "J-Just make a good game, bro! It's super easy!"
OP is right you now. Steam is way too consumer-centric and it hurts these devs.
A system like this would have been fine if people weren't idiots but everyone knows that gamers are the most childish entitled group of reactionaries out there. Steam already took a good step forward essentially "neutering" reviewbombs when they happen but if I were Valve I'd just get rid of them all together. They're not helpful.
In fact, devs should be allowed to at least moderate their review page just to weed out the undesirables.
William White
The customer is always right, nigger.
Aiden Howard
>Review bombing is childish. >The purpose of a review is to say whether a game is good or bad. If you submit a negative review purely because you want to hurt the game's review score in response to a recent controversy, you're not submitting a valid review, and your review should be removed.
Steam/Metacritic have every right to remove review bombs. A game's review score should represent its quality, rather than represent the number of angry manchildren who are pissed off about a recent controversy. >The only people who will disagree with this sentiment are whiny manbabies whose hobby is screeching impotently on the Internet.
review bombing is essentially boycotting and standing outside the store with a picket sign but digitally
Andrew Phillips
how is GO for someone that only played 1.2 back then?
Bentley Roberts
He's talking about if some dev releases an update that completly shit on balance, or maybe they abandoned the game after promissing something, or maybe the entire thing was a fucking scam there are a lot of reasons to change a review.
David Lee
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET ME RAISE THE PRICE OF ALL OUR GAMES RIGHT BEFORE THE STEAM SALES!!! NOW BUY MY 1000 DLCs!!!
>People upset moderation works When I buy a product I want to know whether or not that product is worth buying or not. I don't give a shit about some literally twitter who drama.
Benjamin Peterson
Riddle me this.
Why stop reviewbombing when they obviously work?
Jaxson Myers
For example...?
Xavier Morris
I would fucking kill you if I could. I'm being serious, people like you need to be dragged out into the street and beaten into submission. You are the type of person who screams at McDonalds employees because they accidentally put pickles on your goddamn burger. You're a fucking failure at life.
Enjoying getting fired and your studio shut down because your game was a steaming pile of sjw trash, nigger.
William King
Is that an actual threat? I guess it's time for cancel culture. I hope you used a proxy/vpn to post this.
Luke Moore
You ever heard of The Boy Who Cried Wolf, user?
Yeah, enjoy never having anything you say be taken seriously again.
Justin Wilson
>You can't say this tastes bad, you're not a chef We get it, you're a code monkey. That doesn't mean you're immune to criticism or that you should ignore it.
Jeremiah Sanders
Reviewbombing works
Parker Campbell
based
Lincoln Flores
>Resetera tranny review bombing because alleged '''rapist''' jontron is in the game for 2 seconds = Bad >Me, an intellectual, review bombing because the anime lady has her big booby covered = Good Two sides of the same retarded coin
William Cox
both me btw
Justin Lopez
>Can only review game if you purchased product >They already made their money >Oh yeah well take this thumbs down! The life of a cuck
Devs should have the ability to turn reviews off, thank god epic is here to save gaming industry from incels and sjw.
Owen Anderson
>buy game >write a negative review about game you bought
I see nothing wrong with this, just because someone doesnt like your shitty game doesnt mean it's being review bombed cry baby.
Jace Walker
The only review bombing I dislike is when chinks sperg out over being region locked into their own cesspit servers. I love that chinks absolutely hate being forced to play with other chinks.
Aiden Gray
>i don't know whats going on Okay, cool. Your opinion on the matter doesn't fucking matter. Thanks for sharing it though.
Dylan Davis
The primary means by which consumers can make their displeasure known to publishers is through review bombing. You may not like that this is the case, but, lacking other viable and visible options that have a tangible effect on sales, that is the way things are.
>bait You wish, review should be about a product. If it's not it should be deleted.
Asher Gonzalez
This thread makes me realize why I hate this site so much. Not like any other place is any better, but holy shit some days I think of just ending it all with people this retarded.
Friendly reminder that if you review bomb because you find the developers to be SJWs, then what you're saying is that its ok for SJWs to reviewbomb games from companies that Yea Forums finds "based"
Zachary Fisher
It all depends on the context user. If the developer does something wrong (or highly anti consumer) it's only fair that the community is made aware of it through some medium, and review bombing is one of the most efficient ways of doing so. Social media is hit or miss when it comes to reporting issues and game devs do not give two shits about anything said there unless its exposing/disparaging them (in which case they'll just react negatively). Gaming 'news' outlets will never report on issues in studios because it's more than likely the case that said studios are paying those sources, and there's not the slightest chance they'll give that money away by reporting on a controversy.
TL;DR: Review 'bombing' in reality is just taking the issue to the man
>upload screenshot of reviewbomb >it becomes some anime garbage image >can't upload the one I wanted because it's flagged as duplicate based
Adrian Martinez
>immediately attacking others' character Whoa, what's your problem? It's not their fault you don't stay informed.
Xavier Russell
On Steam you can review it then return it after.
Brayden Bennett
>What happened to the days when we could sit down discuss shit? because when it come to politics, religion and sexuality people always had the mindset of "Don't ask, Don't tell", only a few person where actually talking about these these subjects and they were either philosophers or had a job about these subjects. a look at Yea Forums today or any other board with some large activity in post will make it clear to you, dumb minldess shitters can't talk in a conversation no matter the subject without bringing up their politics non sense and when you ignore them they start calling you names, most of these people are usually folks with nothing to do but sit on their asses all day with no passion in anything or not even a hobby, they are litteraly tools
>and review bombing is one of the most efficient ways of doing so You're joking right? It doesn't even convey the issue half the time and makes it look like you're mad about some non issue like exclusivity. There's a reason why it doesn't work.
Yeah, it is childish but what the fuck are people supposed to do when devs start acting like retards?
David Edwards
Use the forums
Ryder Roberts
Jesus, is this an actual serious post? Kill yourself
Joshua Johnson
Ion Fury.
Juan Gray
>Stop fighting Back Goy >Lets Us Win >Just act like the dumb docile lazy sheep you are
John Butler
>That pic Are you implying I can't tell people not to play something I think isn't worth it, just because I play it a lot? If anything, playing something a lot would give you more experience and grounds to judge it. For example, I struggle to recommend Binding of Isaac Rebirth since the updates have simply dumped powercreep and too many items on top of a base game that's barely been tweaked since release, leaving tonnes of unbalanced, buggy enemies and useless items/powerups. I have over 3000 hours in it, so I could write a list of ways to improve every single enemy type in the game at this point.
Lincoln Smith
I hate that they call it user reviews because it is really is the furthest thing from reviews. No deeper reflections or consumer advice most of time. Just three word opinions, memes, trolling and butthurt review bombers.
Eli Jackson
Because you discussed actual things involving the product, not some social media website controversy.
Xavier Sullivan
>It doesn't work
What? Do you know what you're saying? Have you not seen what happens when a game is legitimately bombed on Steam? When the overall claim is valid sales for the game drop either because people read the reviews and agree with them, or people skim over the game's store page and see mixed reviews (or lower) and choose not to buy. More damage is done when a source of water is poisoned rather than when an outlet of water is poisoned. When people see the issues straight from the source (and genuine reviews from people who bought the game and played it rather than paid shills who cocksuck it) they will inevitably re-evaluate making the purchase.
how else are you going to let the developer know how you feel? if gaming journalists make it their mission to spread a false narrative, this is literally the only way for them to take notice and for your voice to matter, otherwise they shun criticism and pretend everything is fine and it's just mindless toxic buzzword buzzword etc, but if it effects their score, they cant ignore the problem forever.
Kevin Rodriguez
hownew.ru
Connor Brown
So find a pic of the actual reviews instead of one that only shows unusually long playtimes, genius
Fucking based. Love how some actual review bomb faggots got mad too.
Xavier Young
How many buzzwords Kill yourself samefag tranny
Landon Harris
stuff like this is why those reviews exist
Christopher Hernandez
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to reviews on steam, if the dev makes the game bad one way or another, then reviewbombing is okay, if the reviewbomb is about something dev said on twitter but the game is still as good as it ever was, then it is not okay, simple as that
The user is >implying that the dev changed their game after they became retarded which i believe is a valid point for reviewing it badly. You are implying that the game stayed the same even after the dev shit the bed which is not a valid reason to shit on their game.
Jonathan Nelson
the image of your post does not show reviews, but recommendations, whose verdict encompasses much more than just the quality of the game, making your entire post merely impotent screeching on the internet.
Alexander Sanders
Does ANYONE actually buy a game just by looking at a review ratio and not reading the reviews?
Elijah Watson
Why should I? I'm not the OP nor am I entitled to put in such effort fag.
Mason Turner
are people review bombing games for things someone said?
Dylan Roberts
Saw in Cultist Simulator niggas review bombing due to allegations
Logan Campbell
And what to do after they ban you from forums?
Daniel Bell
Review bombing just means you're doing something wrong to the point that your base is vocally angry at you. Only people who actively want to fuck their customers over care about review bombing.
Ryder Thompson
Thats pretty stupid. If it doesn't have to do with the game it shouldn't be in the review bombing or not.
Sebastian Scott
And yet she irreparably damaged this site more than 5 years ago.
Ryan Richardson
Then don't bother replying if you weren't the one at fault, cunt
Bentley Anderson
Glad we agree
Lucas Morris
I'll do as I please asshole, I agree with both your responses from before. No need to get uppity about it.
David Sanders
Dev said something controversial, accusations on the dev, price changes, literally anything that doesnt affect the game itself
Hudson Russell
100% true. I get so annoyed looking at review pages and seeing everyone complain about some stupid bullshit the developer said on Twitter. I don't fucking care.
Joseph Foster
I'm glad we have the same viewpoint then, dickface
Dylan Hall
Lack of moderation did that
Kevin Myers
HOLY FREAKING BASED
Kayden Watson
>>>/rddt/
Benjamin Walker
LOOK AT THOSE INCELS SEETHING LMAOOOOO
Liam Phillips
what's your point? Shitting in your neighbour's mailbox is childish too, but you have admit it sends a strong message.
Daniel Clark
We're talking about game development, not rape accusations.
