>be Toby Fox >make small indi game >do coding and music with next to no help >becomes one of the most popular indi games >fast forward 4 years >makes the music for Game Freaks new game >gets Sans the magic meme skeleton into Smash Brothers together with a song >not only just meets Sakurai but get invited into his home >chills with Sakurai plays Smash Brothers with him (and wins) >Sakurai even talks about this on a Nintendo Direct >Sakurai personally drives him home
how can one man be so based Yea Forums? he's really living the dream
He made a kickstarter and hired loads of people you fucking asskiss
Adrian Roberts
>gets Sans the magic meme skeleton into Smash Brothers Why is it that when ANY OTHER CHARACTER gets a Mii costume it's a bad thing, but when it's Sans it's "HOLY SHIT BOYS SANS IS IN"?
>do coding and music with next to no help >next to no help I wouldn't consider $51,000 crowd funded for him as "next to no help"
Carter Kelly
>With next to no help That's very fucking wrong. From what I remember he had support from an entire community making assets, music and a bunch of shit all around. You can idolize the guy but base it on the truth don't be an idiot.
James Parker
Cause no one in a million years actually thought Sans would be in smash in any capacity
Julian Sanchez
>Because the fighters pass was already in development Why does this matter? >Shovel Knight isn't even playable And technically neither is Sans lol
Samuel Ortiz
Not to mention, you know, the kickstarter that gave him over 50k to work on it.
Oliver Cooper
>next to no help Any art that was decent was done by Temmie, what are you smoking? Plus all the testers and other helpers he had, like Everdred doing the Omega Flowey assets. I swear Toby's biggest achievement was memeing people ino thinking it was a solo auteur effort.
Michael Ward
>Cause no one in a million years actually thought Sans would be in smash in any capacity Undertale's huge in Japan. The mii costume route didn't really occur to me but the idea of Sans being in a Smash game as something didn't seem too far out at all.
Anthony Carter
It was a gamemaker game and it was either him or temmie. You can look at the credits. He did curb Sans and Pap from a friend of his, but completely different.
Jace Stewart
Sans is playable. Cope.
Dylan Ward
Such a special smart person you are user, we're all so proud.
Samuel Hernandez
Undertale fans are the most autistic fans of anything ever, surpassing even Sonic
And what am I supposed to feel about that if it is of no worth to me? Why should it be of worth in the first place?
Jacob Stewart
Should’ve gained a huge following online due to your musical contributions to a stupid webcomic like he did then. You’d get 50k too.
Jacob Wilson
I'm just curious to see what they talked about. What did Toby do to make Sakurai take a liking to him?
Christopher Perez
But there are a lot of people with 50k. There have been many games with budgets ranging in the millions. Why have most of them not had the same impact as Undertale?
Adrian Richardson
No he's not. Mii Gunner is playable with a Sans costume. It was in the same realm of possibility as Shovel Knight, which is to say not totally unlikely. I didn't think he'd be a character (I don't think any indie rep will be until it actually happens), but again, with Shovel Knight it wasn't at all unlikely.
Cameron Brooks
Sakurai is probably an Undertale fan.
Wyatt Long
I will admit music is one thing I couldn't beat Toby in even if you gave me 500k.
I said if you handed ME. Not if you just handed anyone 50k, you dummy.
Kevin Hall
i want to know about that like, imagine getting invited to sakurai's house and then at the airport, its sakurai picking you up like a family member instead of someone else or a limo or something.
Charles Fisher
>Undertale uses my exact style of fucking humor I put into dozens of RPG Maker games I made years back >Friends even mention such to me It hurts, that coulda been me.
what did he use to make this game? so i can make a BETTER fucking game and get MY character into fucking smash?
Ethan Ward
you forgot >the pope played your game
Josiah Parker
That’s why he got his following and fanbase. And ultimately that’s why he got his success. That and his degree of engagement with his community.
Kevin Fisher
Fucking Gamemaker.
Colton Ward
You cannot recreate the conditions that allowed the game to be successful. The content thirsty HS fans along with Tumblr as it was made a big difference.
Zachary Hughes
Toby literally wouldn't be anywhere if Earthbound wasn't made.
Jose Young
>EVERYONE I PUT REDDIT HUMOR IN MY GAME I COULD HAVE BEEN TOBY FOX I SWEAR >w-w-what gameplay? story? music? artistic ability? w-who needs them
Christian Howard
Undertale combined old ideas into something new. This generally appeals to the sort of people who haven't been exposed to that.
It also fooled players into thinking the story was deep despite being very linear by omitting details, just hinting at them to give the lorefags work and two dimensional characters that completely wow you with their second dimension once you have been fooled they only have one.
He is also good at making catchy, if derivative music that gets old really quick, but tell that to his fans who don't care about it as long as they have someone they can put on the pedestal from "making it out of nowhere", willfully ignoring that he already had a sizeable audience aware of him to use as a viral vector.
Undertale doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Neither does Fox, who exhibits the same "haha, I acknowledge my mistakes so I don't need to fix them!" attitude as Hussie and Yoko Taro. But it's okay! He is a quirky dog! So it's okay!
Aaron Anderson
so what did he use that 50k ON? if he did almost everything, what did the rest of the money go to?
lived at home, no studio, no other people to pay, did everything yourself. shit, how long per day do you think he worked on the game?
Evan Morales
Cosmic balance
either fox did something incredibly good in his life or something incredibly bad is going to happen to him
Sebastian Turner
Imagine thinking that Undertale became famous because of sheer quality and not because of it being a homestuck/meme humor/pandering abortion. Faggot.
Liam Barnes
FUCK THAT THE FUCK?
THAT IS LIKE XBLA INDY SHIT!
Jayden Jenkins
>funding from kickstarter autism >coding in Gamemaker >Handful of original songs >Popular via autism >Game Freak's, a laughable company, new game which looks like shit and music that sounds just like his other music You can like his game even though it's shit but let's not act like he was nothing short of lucky. I don't envy his life because it sounds tiresome.
On making the Kickstarter rewards I guess (that he still hasn't delivered on).
Josiah Anderson
>Yea Forums got Notch popular >Yea Forums got Toby popular
What other success stories was Yea Forums solely responsible for?
Xavier Young
he's unironically /ourguy/ one day we'll make it
Charles Jones
I mean, it wasn’t made in a day. 50k a year is a pretty shit salary.
Nicholas Taylor
>He is also good at making catchy, if derivative music that gets old really quick Add this to the compilation of the bizarre excuses people pull out of their asses to shit on undertale music and pretend they dont like it. Go check the views on some undertale OSTs on youtube
Ayden Nelson
pewdiepie started on Yea Forums deus ex leak being played by Yea Forums more or less saved the game
Nathan Perry
Are you saying that flies like shit? Cause I have to agree with you there.
Easton Diaz
Yeah. I mean, it is obvious if you’ve played the game.
Nathan Sullivan
Its time to start working on my own game maker game. I'm going to start designing it this fucking month. Fuck it. I'll start with genre, story, characters, and world building.
Tyler Baker
>Go check the views on some undertale OSTs on youtube >views=quality
Caleb Long
me
Hudson Rogers
Hey man, I sure can't wait to listen to Megalomania AGAIN after the Earthbound hack and Homestuck and Undertale.
Toby is a one trick pony hack. Deal with it.
Blake Ortiz
All undertale had was music. Puzzles were easy, gameplay was tedious and also easy. You're quite literally encouraged to avoid combat. All that's left is the "story" which amounts to le epic subversion ala Spec Ops: The Line.
Fuck you enter, go back to crying about sponge bob
Logan Martin
>gets old quick >undertale music still getting heaps of hits to this day and is also the most memorable thing about the game hmmmmm Can you please, just please, try to come of with one good actual reason as to why the music is shit
Lincoln Ward
Because undertale is popular among leftist groups
David Barnes
But what makes YOU so special? Not to shit on you in particular, but surely every aspiring game dev believes they have some groundbreaking ideas? Cliff thought lawbreakers had the potential to be a million-dollar IP, the guys who made YIIK thought their game was nuanced art that the average gamer just didn't 'get'.
Christian Reed
You keep spamming these threads. Enough, Toby. Suck your own cock.
Easton Taylor
>implying it did its a literal checklist for autists. i never said this, but the popularity is derivative from the autism around it. they're catchy, extremely repetitive, and not great.
Dylan Bell
If you'd open your shutters at least once since 2009, you'd realize that nowhere else on the internet, or on the planet will you find the shitty website hating meme
Hudson Lewis
Or the epic Spaghetti!!
Noah Clark
these threads are always half discouraged neets seething they never made the initial effort to sacrifice their time to make the game they want, and half recognizing Toby deserves to be where be is
Alexander Davis
Holy shit, the amount of delusional hero worship in this thread is insane Have unironic sex
Eli Wilson
Above average critical thinking skills
Lucas Campbell
La creatura.
Jaxson Perry
*suck suck suck* Toby cock tastes good! It's literally one Randy tier shill.
Grayson Reed
More power to you. If this guy can have the drive and know-how to design a game with characters he can share to the world, what’s stopping you?
Brayden Lee
>But what makes YOU so special? Nothing retard. It's about luck. Influence too but I don't think Toby planned to gain autistic fans from Homestuck before making his game.
Sebastian Turner
No this thread is about Sans in Smash not about Hero in Smash.
Julian Smith
How did he even get Temmie to work on his game? Pure Chad energy?
Camden White
This is getting embarrassing, Toby.
Caleb Wright
Lol I love how Yea Forums downplays anything that becomes a hit. Why? What's hard about saying it was a good game?
No, this thread is one you've spammed over and over to make people think this faggot is somebody that exists to anybody besides fucking undertale faggots, a community as despised as sonicfags.
Michael Wright
there's literally no way he didn't know the Homestuck fanbase would love Undertale
that's the difference between him and you, he's predisposed to realizing things like that
Andrew Gonzalez
people like you always seem to forget the 2013 demo of Undertale that stormed Yea Forums due to the sheer quality of it. but all of you are newfags so you wouldn't remember the Toriel porn wave shilling
Brody Taylor
>just agree with me and say it's good! You're just a contrarian for saying otherwise!
Jonathan Ramirez
What's hard about saying it wasn't that good?
Jacob Nguyen
>pleeeaaase, pay attention to me! Isn't my idolozation interesting? Pathetic.
Evan Bailey
He hired like 2 people and all they did was art. Codind and music was, as user said, all done by Toby.
Joshua Foster
Undertale could be the best game in the world for all I know, but everything the fanbase has done has made me steer clear. It might be because of the homosuckers who migrated there, but I'm not touching anything with such a stupid fanbase.
Jonathan Torres
Bullshit you knew your game would become successful I forgot the furry pandering too actually, but what does his demo have to do with his success? Are you one of those fags who think Yea Forums dictates people's success?
Jordan Powell
Give the Hitler mii the Sans costume
Noah Anderson
Because it's from a small indie game that nobody expected to have any representation at all. Meanwhile, people expected K Rool dlc back in Smash 4 days when he got a costume instead. People are still seething about Ashley, which is pretty glorious.
Oliver Thomas
You're just gonna take the money and run like the rest of them. Nice try kike, I'm onto your jewish tricks.
Colton Lewis
holy shit this seething in this thread just make your own game instead of shitposting on Yea Forums, maybe you'll live the dream too
>people like you always seem to forget the 2013 demo of Undertale that stormed Yea Forums due to the sheer quality of it. Okay fella relax. I was there, and I liked it/Undertale in general but "the sheer quality of it" is fucking pushing it so damn hard, are you kidding me? Outside of the hot goat mom and the "twist" ending the demo had nothing going on.
Jason Gray
Make a crowd funding project and prove it.
Adam Lopez
>NOOOOO IT WASNT GOOD ITS NOT FAIR WHY IS HIS GAME LIKED STOPP The envy is palpable.
>Y- you don't get it, there were threads! On Yea Forums! I'm not forgotten! I'm not unironically an eworshipper!
>better spam toby shill threads!
Brandon Stewart
shitposting on Yea Forums will get you nowhere
Mason Richardson
>le soiface why are you so angry
Alexander Jackson
>you'll live the dream too what dream >IT WAS GOOD Is it not possible to dislike something without being envious according to you?
Zachary Ramirez
Why can't you spell "indie" properly?
Carter Hill
>p-please, agree with me, someone, i've got toby posters in my room!
Ethan Phillips
So if it's all about luck, then why do you think you'd be able to make a better game? >I'm the one unique snowflake, MY game will change the state of the gaming industry forever because I'm the only conscious one! absolute state of you this, instead of bitching about 'hurr durr I could make a better game IF I had the money' actually fucking think of some original ideas, do your research, download the cheap-ass software and make your own game If you're in game dev JUST for the money and status then you're in it for the wrong reasons.
Oliver Martinez
>doesn't deny it's a lottery >implying anyone on Yea Forums wants to make a hit game
Jeremiah King
>yeah bro just have a pre-existing fanbase when you start composing for a webcomic, those are totally still relevant
Logan Martin
>demo drops >Yea Forums: wow this is a really great game, can't wait for the whole game! >undertale gets popoular >Yea Forums: NOOOO WHAT A SHIT GAME REEEEE EVERY FUCKING TIME
Isaac Young
>Are you one of those tags that think Yea Forums dictates success You can't be ironically thinking this way with the amount of memes that begin here and are stolen ad infinitum outside
Anthony Morales
>H-HE WAS LUCKY It's a mixture of luck, skill and timing. Not just luck alone. You also need skill.
*suck suck suck* Mmmm, toby cummy in my tummy! >n-no, j-just make your own game, i was talking about that the whole time, t-this isn't a thread about toby
I'd be more impressed if he wasn't given 51k to make it. Japanese indie devs actually make shit on their own.
Nathaniel Scott
uhuh.
Logan Russell
Do you realize how significant of an investment creating art assets is? The fact that Temmie isn't credited more is a disgrace.
Jaxon Howard
nothing going on yet discussed near daily until the release of the game ok bud
Parker Phillips
Luck for success. Quality of a game is not all important. >just make the game! Christ man do you think anyone who isn't successful in life just didn't try hard enough? You also seem to assume that everyone wants to make a successful game and make loads of money. Not everyone is an american neckbeard.
Noah Collins
>why yes, I do allow online communities to shape my opinion of games. Especially single player ones. This makes the most sense, I am in fact a herd animal.
It's getting embarrassing Toby.
Wyatt Roberts
You can dislike it. But the arguments in this thread read like some woman mad that another woman is more successful than her. Mental illness
You know what's frustrating? That I've played really great indie games (far better than Undermeme) and they always go unnoticed or spike in popularity then die out. It's all luck because you're banking on people to continue to shill your single game, and unless you can continue to keep working on it like Minecraft or spew out more titles like Five Nights at Freddy's, you're doomed to obscurity.
Samuel Gray
With an attitude like that, no. Just like Bob's game and the YIIK game. Fuck off.
Kevin Garcia
Ah yes, the skill to use gamemaker and write a shitty story of "the monsters aren't ACTUALLY evil!"
Adam Foster
dumb frogposter
Jacob Torres
He will succede Sakurai after his death
Robert Foster
>Airport Toby moved to Japan. Hes living the dream.
Jonathan Morris
>game gets popular >people who aren't directly in the target audience don't like it >REEE CONTRARIANS
Leo Powell
Toby cunmies are so yummy! I'm a slut for Fox cock!
>nothing going on yet discussed near daily until the release of the game This is such a bullshit lie I can't believe you even attempted.
Juan Williams
Not an argument. The demo was literally just furry bait + twist ending. YOU CAN'T COUNTER IT CAUSE YOU KNOW ITS RIGHT KEEP TRYING TO DODGE YOU PATHETIC RETARD
Caleb Martin
what, I'm wrong? really? you sure? nobody forgot the demo during the Two year wait, there was a lot of anticipation.
Tyler Jones
>nobody forgot the demo during the Two year wait Very cute attempt to shift the goal post From >discussed near daily to >nobody forgot it
Undertale doesn't even look that shitty, dude. The point is that he had someone to take care of the art (he also had a lot of testers and other random contributors, as said above, he didn't make the Omega Flowey photoshop shit himself); treating it like some epic solo work on the same level as Pixel, for example (who himself still had some help) is just dishonesty. Every auteur "genius" is propped up by countless hands and shoulders.
Caleb Lee
helloooooooo
Ayden Brooks
Toby cummies Thick and yummy I want them badly In my tummy Please talk about My Toby please I'm crying, shitting On my knees I can't go on I've made 12 threads Toby lives rent free In my head Toby cummies! Yummy yummy! White and warm! In my tummy!
>IT COULDA BEEN ME! I ONCE PIRATED RPG MAKER 2000 WHEN I WAS 14 AND FUCKED AROUND WITH A FEW ASSETS ONCE. I COULD EASILY DO IT REEEEEEEEEE IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S ALL LUCK REEEEEEEEE
>oh shit, if I just pretend everyone here is a failing aspiring game dev, they won't notice me slobbering all over Toby's goblina cock pathetic
Jayden Russell
>Yea Forums mocks resetera
>praises a lgbtq+ faggot dev who makes faggot characters
makes you think.
Isaac Bailey
It's clearly 2 faggots sitting on each other's hands in a discord.
Colton Brooks
based
Hudson Nelson
You mean Toby's BIG ALPHA CHAD COCK, bitch. The jealousy, the obsession, the outrage. Cope.
Bentley Nguyen
Someone post the image of Toby lying about the Jap who made Earthbound praising him and sucking his dick and then a journo interviewed the jap who said "who the fuck is toby?"
Matthew Myers
>Every auteur "genius" is propped up by countless hands and shoulders. I think Lucas Pope is actually a one man army.
Juan Turner
when people bring up the "lots of fans/customers doesnt mean its good!" is pretty valid, but only if the product that really appeals to lots of people is also slammed by the "intelligentsia" of it's genre. justin bieber sure was a phenomenon, but critics rightly pointed out that "baby" is not a good song. bieber became famous, not acclaimed.
undertale is both critically acclaimed and loved by players. it is legitimately very good, but in the sense of postmodern art. guys who insist that something like undertale isn't really the truest meaning of the word "good", they usually mean that it's not a modern product (modern as in the opposite of postmodern) sharpened to it's sharpest edge. you can become very successful this way too: stephen king is a great example of a writer who made a conscious effort to avoid postmodernity. in terms of videogames, the dragon quest series is really modern in this sense.
Anthony Allen
that was a fake
Isaiah King
He had to do that part too you know.
Zachary Rodriguez
whatever you say
Luis Bailey
Undertale fans need to dilate, right now.
Brayden Murphy
>If he's going to mention me, then I have to tell everyone that we listened to a CD of Smash music as he drove me home in his car (which I kept calling his Batmobile) This is some actual autism
Connor Sanchez
This is getting sad. At least Randy has actual shills. You do it for free. >f-fake! It was fake! Nobody knows who the faggot is.
even if done on purpose he's still retarded. i get acting like a dumbass for comedy reason but this just doesn't work, it feels like he's doing it for real like he legit has autism and tries too hard.
>living the dream Fucking kill your self weeb. Japan fucking sucks t. Depressed salaryman.
Logan Carter
Toby cummies! Runny yummy! Please agree with me I need some honey Dripping down My open mouth When I post threads Another man comes out Toby cummies! Mommy please! I'm begging for it! On my knees!
Levi Jenkins
Reminder that actual game devs or even just people working in the bigger studios of the game industry lurk around here or maybe even post. Some of you just have a seriously underdeveloped brain.
>UMM but in the meantime AHHHCK here is AHHHHCK um a guy he is a developer UHMMMMM Fucking undertale fans holy shit Being alone in a dark room suits them
This. Originality is not always key to success nowadays, just cater to whatever the others might want.
For example I'm fairly certain that if some sort of spiritual successor to that Psi-Ops game would come out, it could have huge success with the fans of that game if done right.
Jose Allen
>game devs are ecelebs now stupid frogposter
Cooper Myers
>why yes, I accused Toby Fox of sexual abuse, how could you tell?
They're coming. If they aren't already being developed, they will be after the Sans hype train showed Nintendo the sales potential. Whether you like it or not, Frisk is likely going to be one of the new fighters. Personally, I would love it.
no you couldn't because you'd have made the kickstarter and done it already
Matthew Harris
Because that is (as of this moment) the closest an Indie game character has gotten to being featured as a Smash fighter.
Adrian Cook
Toby is only popular because of the homestuck fanbase. If he didn't work on HS I really doubt anyone would give a shit about the game.
Samuel Rodriguez
dumb frogposter >images(15).jpg
Samuel James
Only reason his music got big as well is because he uses a lot of leitmotifs to make it sound more nostalgic whenever it happens, so you can easily pinpoint one of the music to a character and then you'll just remember it as their theme. He's pulled off some tricks there, else it wouldn't have had the same impact.
>Calls his demo powerful >Says it's a hard bullet hell >Nonstop shilling his game >Asks his fans and the interviewer constantly if they love his game and for claps Meanwhile good people are failling
Angel Bennett
toby also didnt get the money from a trust fund or something. he had to go and ask for it, and his demo and kickstarter convinced enough people. reminder that he only asked for like 5k.
Hunter Taylor
I think Toby's still a virgin
there's no way he would've achieved this level of popularity without a few jealous roasties trying to drag him down
I don't want this fucker to influence ZUN. I don't want an Undertale inspired character to be in Touhou. Touhou should stay Touhou with no outside influence. Touhou cannot have any connection to Tumblr and Homestuck ever or else the series is dead.
Juan Campbell
Because it actually looks like Sans, it's not like somebody like Knuckles where your Mii wears his face on your head.
Nathan Evans
The amount of cope in this thread lmfao really locks in how much of a joke Yea Forums is
Colton Howard
it did work, though. toby is a multimillionaire and played smash with sakurai and got sans into smash.
Luke Lewis
Toby continues to make Yea Forums seethe to this day I see.
Jonathan Butler
Here's a friend of toby making an exaggerated impression of him and this was pre-undertale. He must be insufferable irl
>poster count didn't move We know. You can't stop talking about it.
Justin Russell
>''For all the confused undertale fans. This was made in 2011 way before Toby made Undertale and he was famous for making the music for Homestuck. It's not him in the video,it's his friend Micheal pretending to be him'' Underfags are literally this retarded that they can't tell what's happening in the video so they gotta have someone else in the comments write it down for them.
Adam Turner
gonna be hilarious when zoe quinn accuses toby of rape.
Adam Smith
>t. Patreon conman
Brandon Roberts
only thing toby raped was the mudpool brains of grouchy Yea Forumsros
Austin Peterson
What? That was my first post in this thread. I think. I don't remember making any other posts in this thread.
Jordan Thompson
She's never been in contact with her. If anything, Toby may be asexual.
Jayden Nguyen
you think facts matter with accusations?
Ian Cooper
*He Whoopsie
Evan Reyes
Toby probably had to suck him off while he drove to get Sans into the game
Isaac Adams
>good devs out there go unnoticed >while this sack of shit gets all the attention Literal proof that skill alone would rarely get you anywhere. You need some mad luck on top of that as well and possibly an already established small fanbase to shill your game and splurged their cum all over it once it launches.
>met sakurai >sakurai has hal connections >undertale inspired by mother
oh fuck me they're going to let him make mother 4 arent they
Brandon Evans
>damn, my obvious shilling seems to have gotten too obvious. I'll just accuse those mocking me in the threads of being obsessed! So this...is the mental fortitude...of Toby Fox fans...
Michael Evans
Yeah sure thing user Right after they let some indie faggot make a zelda game! Because that will happen right?
Colton Russell
underrated post
Brody Lopez
If that happens I'll bungee jump with the rope tied around my neck.
Nathaniel White
Hopefully. If only to watch Yea Forums shit their diapers.
Jayden Edwards
Old Yea Forums loved Undertale before all the zoomers came in.
Joseph Powell
you know you did a lot of things rights when you make people on Yea Forums seethe this much
Tyler Lopez
Considering they're letting him make the music for Gamefreak's new shit he's probably set to work at Nintendo for the rest of his life
Michael Turner
*slits your throat*
Easton Jackson
i want to die
John Flores
Good post.
Joseph Barnes
Not that guy, but shilling for what exactly? A game literally everyone knows exists? Or to make Toby live rent free in your head, because it's pretty clear that he already does?
God, you fucking secondary motherfuckers are retarded. Itoi said there would never be a Mother 4. Nintendo isn't going to make one without him, since that's Japanese etiquette. No Mother 4. Try harder. I know Yea Forums is retarded, but for fucks sake.
Hunter Collins
sora is going to pick up deltarune watch it happen
Juan Price
I doubt it. Untertale doesn't have enough cursed images like that toliet Shadow one or the Spyro Subway.
Jonathan Thomas
This, the thought that Itoi would let anyone work on his baby is fucking ridiculous. Why is Yea Forums so delusional ?
John Wilson
:-DDDDDD epicccc
Angel Ward
>not that guy, but can we please talk more about Toby? OP is getting lonely >Yea Forums is one person and back in the day, was something different. so there! sad
Julian Hall
It's strange that given the immense quantity of art it produced for a long time mlp never got many cursed images Or maybe they just never made it to the main booru and you had to go to devientart to find them.
Julian Cook
You are obsessed and it's fucking hilarious. I won't be participating in future bait threads about Toby, but I know for a fact you will. So long idiot, keep seething.
Undertale was okay as a game. I just don't like Toby himself and the autistic fanbase that spawned out of the game. He did fine making this game but I just don't like him as a person, he seems like an obnoxious and insufferable cunt to be with IRL.
I mean undertale's biggest inspiration was earthbound so I think it's fitting that they're able to bond over the success of both undertale and earthbound symbiotically getting audiences to look at both games
Colton Cook
>Sakurai calls his car the Batmobile
Ian Ward
>Untertale doesn't have enough cursed images you just havent looked
How the fuck are you people getting worse then steve retards?I wish mods would actually enforce their shitty rules and make you all go back to /vg/ and /trash/
Ethan Roberts
Clearly. Actual humans don't exist as little mouthpieces for strangers they idolize.
>n-no This is grade a deflection from the fact that you got noticeably upset when someone said Toby looks insufferable. Why is that?
Jordan Cruz
I seriously hope you dont think anything about Undertale's gameplay ( aside from the bullet hell gimmick ) is fresh. The puzzles are RPG Maker tutorial tier and the map design is a fucking joke. Look at this straight line, i wouldn't accept something like this in my obscure DLsite RPG maker games
He must've had sex with someone. Why can't they just accuse him of rape already, I'm tired of him
Hudson Cook
>user spergs out at being called user Quiet little cuck
James Butler
Yeah? The skill to make an interesting story with great music and memorable characters, with little to no help. You sound like you know the process really well. I look forward to your game.
Lucas Morris
It'll happen at some point.
Colton Barnes
>Got to meet one of his idols and talk to him about making his game, how he got into touhou and everything He did what some people dream of, releasing their own game. Then he went beyond that. Always nice to see an indie developer get to be considered like that.
>unless you make a game, you can't criticize one! Weak argument. You haven't made anything either, therefore your opinion is worthless.
Jackson Howard
even DS3 has more variants than this piece of shit
Brody Robinson
>you must want to make a game too Projecting much? >interesting story Is it? Monsters aren't evil and the king wants to kill you for the freedom of his subjects wow never heard that one before. >little to no help kickstarter I like that even though Undertale is a video game you didn't even mention the gameplay in your defence of it.
Evan Powell
>poster count stayed the same Pathetic
Jayden Nelson
its almost like... they're different types of games... of different...lengths...woah
Hudson Morgan
I've only posted once it this thread user, well, this post would be second. Sorry if you're confusing me for someone else.
Jacob Powell
What a pretentious post. You typed so many words without saying anything more than "Undertale is objectively good" and comparing it to fucking art. Two laughable claims that I hope are bait
Noah Flores
Everytime someone is successful, Yea Forums knows the way they become successful. They know the whole system from A-Z. If that's the case, why aren't there successful Yea Forums devs? There are people from the site who actually made great games like RoR, that bartender VN and etc. Why don't you try your own luck?
>pretending to be multiple anons for the sake of e-stroking your favorite shitty indie dev, getting mad when called out Way sadder
Brody Gray
If you're going to cosplay as Undyne and pose for a photo, at least get in character
Dominic Green
they showed off the Switch version in a Direct, even had a new trailer and everything
Lucas Baker
Ultimate soiboy dream, huh? Well gaijins shouldn’t be allowed in Japan in a fist place.
Jaxon Long
Toby has a good sense for music and art. The music and art is memorable. You're probably just an idea guy who has never tested his creations with anyone else.
Austin Wood
TOBY CUMMIES YUMMY YUMMY
Ethan Harris
like clockwork
Jordan Walker
WANT THEM NOW IN MY TUMMY
Landon Cruz
like clockwork
Carson Reyes
Did they fuck though?
Ryan Wilson
Weren't you forced to do bad things if you played spec ops? In UT you can at least not kill shit.
Christopher Reed
There's actual critique and then there's "IT'S SHIT!!!". Weak. Why do I need to mention the gameplay? The gameplay was interesting. The story is good enough to keep you interested. When you say "wow never heard that before" it's like you mean to say that every story has to be new and completely different. Most games have similar stories to one another, yet they're still great games. I don't see how that would make a game shit automatically.
Justin Nelson
I know exactly how to win the lottery doesn't mean i ever will.
Chase Cruz
>Why should I talk about the gameplay in a video game?? What about the story is good or interesting to you, exactly? I suggested there is nothing more to it than the two sentences which cannot be considered interesting.
>actual critisism/praise You wouldn't know either. This 2 man circlejerk literally praising some goblina in superlatives and getting visibly upset when someone doesn't is the other side of this coin. Which is why it's being mocked.
Ethan Gutierrez
>I'd rather work on a shit-end job than rake in cash for the rest of my life for three years of work
Austin Hall
Dumbass ironic weeb.
Aaron Powell
Nothing is stopping you. It can still be reality dude. Work hard and make a homerun, and you too can make the dream.
If you make it, they will come.
Ryder Campbell
wait is that what toby fox looks like
Christopher Jackson
at least im not a mexican lmao
Andrew Edwards
Weak projection desu.
Matthew Green
no have gay chubby sex user
Kayden Harris
How did he do it, bros? >No marketing budget >No payed streamers >No payed youtube influencers
Yet, his game will be forever remembered...
Mason Sanders
gay chubby sex is ultimately better than jerking yourself off to the thought of your favorite nobody indie dev, so we agree
Chase Bailey
Not him but there's 117 posters ITT. With my post it'll be 118. How is it a 2 man circlejerk?
Oh boy, 3 people in the circlejerk. Your hands will be really busy now!
Easton Taylor
I'm not buying the sans costume on smash bros. I'm just plain not interested.
Michael Jackson
TOBY CUMMIES MAN THEY'RE YUMMY
Alexander Howard
You okay? I didn't even comment on this autistic thread.
Lincoln Baker
Are you mentally challenged? Or are you roleplaying as Andrew Hussie?
Lincoln Carter
PLEASE MR TOBY I'M SO LONELY IF I MAKE SOME THREADS SURELY I'LL HAVE FRIENDS
Bentley Jones
I legitimately don't understand the appeal of Undertale, Shovel Knight, etc. and it's made me realize I will never make anything that will be popular due to this inability. Is it really as simple as take x thing that people like and/or are nostalgic about and put a new coat of paint on it?
Jacob Fisher
>when you receive money, music magically composes itself and the gamr programs itself Getting funding to create something isnt the same as collaborating with other artists to spread the work load. It also doesnt magically make you good either.
Thomas Howard
because undertale is good and (your favorite game you wanted represented) is not
How come every picture of "Toby Fox" is a different person?
Benjamin Stewart
The only thing Yea Forums about Notch is his dislike for blacks and women.
William Wilson
he's mixed race so he keeps changing his appearance over the years. that's only normal with mongrels like that, also jews shed their skin every few weeks.
Jaxson Perry
One of us, clearly.
Robert Turner
Except he used to post here and get feedback for Minecraft when he started developing it. There was even a "Thanks Yea Forums!" splash on the intro screen.
Jackson Collins
>do coding ?
Julian Gutierrez
>its a literal checklist for autists i mean so are most FF games and ya dont hear me bitch about it
Connor Young
how the fuck did that retarded game such a huge fanfollowing? did this guy strike a deal with demons or something , looks like a goblino anyway
Dominic Bennett
There was also a "Thanks Reddit" and a "Thanks Neogaf"
Ethan Robinson
No there wasn't.
Evan Cooper
mfw I was having diarrhea all week while this faggot was living the dream
Because it's so unthinkable. Who could have possibly seen this coming. Not to mention the story behind it is memeable.
William Anderson
Where are your proofs?
Eli Cruz
and yet he will always be an ugly kike.
Landon Young
It was way better than Undertale, the only thing Undertale did better was the music.
Jason Phillips
Because undertale is zoomercore
Nathaniel Fisher
Why the fuck does this faggot live in Japan now? You have to be mentally handicapped to think that living in one of the most xenophobic countries as a foreigner is a good idea.
Josiah Flores
Yeah that's pretty cool. I didn't like Undertale but this is definitely inspiring for anyone who wants to make their own game.
Isaac Hernandez
>talentless Yea Forumsirgins actually believe this whatever helps you cope with never reaching toby's level of success in anything you do in life
you're close to breaking through a mental barrier. you already realized you don't get what attracts people in terms of indie games. now you can rectify it and read up on ludology. introspection is really rare on Yea Forums in general, so good job!
einstein was famously quoted saying "the secret of creativity is hiding your sources". what this means is that everything has been invented already, but not really. undertale certainly has its sources of inspiration (and direct borrowing; the goat race is pretty much mimigas from cave story. speaking of, cavestory/undertale). it really comes down to artistic expression and how ideology colors it.
i bet you that every video game in todays top 10 list has inspiration or direct quotation from somewhere else. although, saying that undertale is just a repaint is very disingenuous.
Luke Adams
yes. atleast i would have money and praise lol
Cooper Edwards
>the homestuck audience looooves it! lol at your life and your poorness
Juan Hernandez
i know. im trying hard, though.
Grayson White
l o l
Owen Barnes
>>do coding and music with next to no help It is literally just an RPG maker game. Any dumb kid could do it.
Eli Rogers
Are you some sort of falseflagging toby fanboy? how can you think this is normal?
Bentley Ross
What an absolutely media absorbed, mongoloid take on 'art is theft,' with a heavy dose of narcissism and self-masturbatory projection that will surely do your gender studies professor proud. Brevity is the soul of wit. You have neither.
Cameron Martinez
>next to no help false, but I love how tsundere Yea Forums is for Toby >HIS GAME IS SHIT >HOMESTUCKHOMESTUCKHOMESTUCK >OVERRATED GARBAGE
>Ends up becoming the High Lord Autists by living every autistic nintendies dream >SO BASED HOLY SHIT
yeah no before you faggots decided to spam threads about your worship of some faggot, nobody had heard of the guy.
ffs, the furry diaperfag who shitfitted his character into undertale is more famous
Dylan Rivera
This. Fucking mii costume who cares.
Alexander Price
I was mostly referring to how Shovel Knight is literally dood remember the nes? The point I was getting at was that nailing whatever aesthetic that captures people is hard But is right >introspection is really rare on Yea Forums in general, so good job! You type like a fag and should go back
Ethan Gutierrez
you just can't, you don't have the homestuck highground
Daniel Adams
It's definitely doable, especially if you speak some Japanese. People are not going to throw garbage at you on the street for simply being a foreigner.
Isaiah Harris
When will he be targeted for harassment allegations?
Carter Hill
Soon. Stay tuned for the spooky adventures ;)
Aaron Reed
very soon, by sakurai
Kayden Lopez
Wait. Isn't "Radiation Fox" a known amateur porn fursuiter? Or like "Irradiated Fox" or something?
Cooper Reed
You can just say the game fucking sucked user it's fine
Levi Cox
It's hilarious to me that there are people out there, especially on Yea Forums, that hate Undertale so much that the sheer sight of it sets them off. The fact that Sans' dumb smug face keeps popping up randomly to piss off autists will never stop being funny.
I mean, look how easy they bent over for that diaperfurry to put his fat dragon OC in the game...
Christopher Roberts
Based
Joseph Murphy
Yeah, i'm definitely sure. Some skinny mixed race guy, too. Green and black fursuit.
Chase Butler
Look at this thread. Jesus christ there's someone obsessed with Toby and keeps posting Toby cum in every other post. He's been doing this for over 3 hours. Imagine.
>tfw played Undertale demo in 2013 >thought "cool, it's like rpg maker but with touhou battles" >didn't even know about pacifist and genocide and shit, just played normally once >cringed at the tsundere cactus thing
Feels weird bros
Liam Perez
Toby went out of his way to make that character hard as fuck to find and made the creator of said character sperg out though
Xavier Brooks
he got his first break in homestuck, the pinnacle of tumblr infection, so any day soon really
Seems legit, all I know about ZUN is his fondness of beers.
Owen Smith
>takes a large amount of money from the furfag >makes the requirements for seeing the character so retardley obscure that maybe 2 people at most encountered it naturally
Summer is over but the summerfags are still here. What’s up with that?
Connor Reed
>he's really living the dream He really is, considering it's completely undeserved. Undertale is not a good game. The writing and humor is so painfully forced and tumblr-y (or whatever fandom this thing originated from). It somehow manages to be more obnoxious than a Borderlands game. I didn't laugh once during my entire playthrough of it, but I rolled my eyes countless times.
It will also age terribly because of alll the dated pop culture references. Like, there's one part of the game where that scientist interrupts you with messages/calls every few steps you take, which is obviously parodying Facebook message updates. Not only does this show a child's understanding of how comedy works, but that segment is excruciating to play through, because you get interrupted every few steps.
And the mechanics are completely disconnected from the narrative. In other rpgs, non-violent conflict resolution is handled through dedicated mechanics like stealth and diplomacy. Undertale just has this completely abstract bullet hell mini game. How does that even make sense? The twist is supposed to be that monsters are actually peaceful and just afraid of you. But then why do they immediately try to murder you? Why don't they approach you peacefully first and see if they can reason with you? Or at least run away? Yet at the same time there is a village inhabited by monsters that don't attack you and interact with you peacefully. So why can't the other monsters outside of the village do that? Why are you denied the pacifist ending for fighting back in self-defense against monsters that try to murder you (and since the game has invisible random encounters, you can't avoid these enemies and you get assaulted by them just by walking around)?
The whole thing falls apart under the slightest scrutiny.
Threadly Reminder: Being anti-something, doesn't make you cool - it's admission of being a leftist. It's a fact of life that leftists will die out, but being rid of them sooner rather than later would work wonders for the world.
Anthony Nelson
He's obviously not living the life of a depressed salaryman though. He has enough money to go to Akihabara at will and survive in life as he makes his next game that will also sell millions.
Nicholas Russell
>Toby makes Yea Forums seethe so badly that they just want someone to accuse him of rape.
Well, his twitch seems to have bounced back, and about half of the Normalboots guys who distanced themselves from this shit dropped sub-bombs and donations during his Hydlide stream
Levi Rivera
No one saw it coming, Sans in smash was a funny little joke, but nobody actually thought it would happen. The Sakurai just comes up and tells everyone the internet literally memed this character into existence
Adrian Cook
50k is next to nothing for game dev
Grayson Jones
>50k The quickest way to tell when someone is both unemployed and poor (and likely a minority) is when they say 50k is a lot of money for any sort of project.
Julian Wilson
>makes quirky JRPG style indie game. >has unique story and gameplay >all your favourite devs and idols play your game e.g. sakurai, Yoko taro, shigesato itoi >become multimillionaire when game takes off >move to jaoan >work with and meet idols >have character/music included in fav game franchise
Living the fucking dream! Only thing I'm not envious of our his looks.
Camden Cox
It's plenty of money for a 2 person project like Undertale completed in that time. I know you've never made a game before, but you could just shut up instead of spouting misinformation.
Josiah James
im not sure how far the dumb ass meter runs in your brain but it seems infinite
Josiah Campbell
I'm making one right now while typing this. Confirming you are a poor ass plebus NEETus.
Hunter Russell
>2 person project
There's more than 2 people in the demo credits for Undertale.
Andrew Martinez
He's right though It's not top tier humor but it's cute and whats most relateable for people Like how those "ME VS HARD LIFE" 4 panel comics get more likes than skillful comics/ art. It has a bigger potential audience
Austin Anderson
Why didn't you do it, then?
Jason Powell
I'm not a narcissist.
Dominic Hall
>mentions drinking alcohol in the very same tweet what did user mean by this?
>He is also good at making catchy, if derivative music that gets old really quick.
Based retard. His music is objectively well composed. He uses motifs and repetition because our brains like patterns and we latch onto them, that's why they're catchy.
t. Composition major
Tyler Rodriguez
>all these faggots the game isnt popular because its good its popular because it had a sonic like autistic fan group which made semi autistic youtubers play it which made big youtubers play it which made the subscribers make memes out of it all because the fans are autistic diaper fags
Colton Mitchell
Prove it. Compose an OST for a video game full of leitmotif and repetition and send it to me so I can use it.
John James
I like to stick to my strengths and writing leitmotifs is not something I've practiced. That's why I respect Toby Fox, because he has that skill and it's well refined.
Tyler Watson
sounds like coping but ok
Ethan Jenkins
>"haha, I acknowledge my mistakes so I don't need to fix them!" Didn't he basically acknowledge that Undertale's pacifism message is naive and try to address it in Deltarune?
Levi Richardson
toby is genuinely one of the greatest examples of "making it"
Jacob Hall
Half true, it had at least a decent story and had great music whether you like it or not. Gameplay was only good in a few fights and the art was the big flaw of the game.
Jose Howard
>become well-known and respected in a monkey's paw fever dream as your popularity is turned on you when everyone here remembers you shilled your garbage here only to dilute it and alter it to be more marketable to sane people >become known as the retard that tried to shill it to Yea Forums >become a staple of future cringe compilations in the same vein as star wars infamy within this site is not worth any amount of money if your real identity becomes known.
>be millionaire >caring if some neets shitpost about me on a mongolian stamp trade forum choose one
Luis Jones
>bad rep inevitably rolls downstream from the mountaintop >it builds up >end up dead inside after struggling to activate even a single pleasure receptor in your brain because there is nothing left in the way of happiness or entertainment your kind of money can reasonably get you >be faced with people publicly recognizing you as that one sperg on stage >become the laughingstock of the industry I hope you have a nice cabin in the middle of Yosemite, nigger, because it's the only place you won't have to hear the sounds of people laughing and vomiting towards you
Was the story of the game even anything out of the ordinary or do the fans also treat it as being super good for whatever reason when it's probably just average?
>Toby made probably the most popular indie game of all time >Met Sakurai, came over to his house, beat his ass in Smash and then got driven home >Got one of your characters represented in Smash as a mii costume >Mii costume completely overshadowed the real DLC fighter who has over two decades of legacy >Meanwhile Andrew Hussie got scammed when getting someone to make his game >Game is a complete piece of shit >Completely fade into irrelevancy >No one even gives a shit about his magnum opus anymore
Tyler White
I'm glad somebody else understands this user
Nolan Edwards
>Toby made probably the most popular indie game of all time You know games like Minecraft and Terraria exist?
i'd personally consider it to be a blatant ripoff of the rpgmaker game OFF while also trying and failing to steal the big reveal from mother 3's ending
Ayden Morgan
Cringe
Nathan Flores
All the desperate contrarianposting in this thread was hella entertaining to read. Zoomers don't have half a brain necessary to not out themselves.
It's still free money you absolute fucking moron. >WELL ITS NOT MILLIONS SO IT AINT WORTH SHIT
Underage.
Nicholas Clark
>music with next to no help >takes tracks from his favorite games >applies 1.5 speed to them yup no help at all
Jacob Torres
It's an average, cliché "friendship is magic"-story. The entire game is a complete mess and the fact that it requires 3 GBs of RAM just shows how extremely badly optimized it is. Don't even bother with it; expect furries to convince you of the opposite, though.
Jordan Edwards
>t. never composed in his life
Cooper Howard
It's just as "unique" as ddlc
Lincoln Carter
>slows down undertale tracks >doesnt get rpg tracks from other games wtf man you told me it'd work
Asher Ramirez
>i do not actually play video games and my entire knowledge of them comes from crossposting threads
Well, he still have to deal with the fact that the SJWs kidnapped his game. All he wanted was to share his love of goatfucking with Yea Forums, but as the product of all his fetishes can sadly be rebadged as "the most successful liberal game", the shit got stolen by the talentless kind that can't even get close to his sales.
Sebastian Thomas
This post and the OP are years apart from each other
Adam Johnson
Isn't Undertale kinda furry fetishy and tumblr SJW in worst sense? Seems cringe to me.
Thomas Lopez
Undertale is a shit game, but some of the tracks are pretty lit at least.
James Campbell
Not an argument.
Nolan Jackson
Cry more faggot, you'll never be Toby Fox lmaooo
Colton Gutierrez
The Japs do shit like this all the time. I was kind of lost on a train at night and some random Jap lady asked if I needed help and I just needed some directions but she took the train with me to my destination and walked me to my hostel then said goodbye and left. My friend has a similar experience
Alexander Sanders
Neither is (You)r's.
Jacob Long
here's your (You)
Austin Sanders
It don't have much SJW in your face shit. It's basically a "closet furfag makes a game with all the shit he faps to", so expect a lot of furry fapbait, and cringy furry fanfiction writing, but not much politics.
Nicholas Williams
>can't like something because other people like it you'll grow up
Nathaniel Evans
If you want to play a game that does a lot of similar things to Undertale, both in terms of presentation and the meta elements, I would highly recommend playing Nier (personal score: 7/10). Nier is far from a perfect game itself and also suffers in the character writing department in particular, but I feel like it's overall a more "mature" work in terms of storytelling and there is more meaningful content to found in it as a game as well.
If you're a true warrior, you can also play Drag-on Dragoon/Drakengard 1/3, by the same creative director as Nier. E ending of DoD1 in particular is what the Genocide route of Undertale should have been. (I do not actually recommend playing these games.)
Jack Morales
I will never be as successful as toby, so why even try?
That's a lot of buzzwords there chief. And it's neither of those.
Adrian Turner
you won't achieve anything saying that here as Yea Forums is infected by these people.
Adam Evans
I don't know how to feel about undertale, the sans fight is extremely fun and challenging in a fair way and shows that the designer can deliver fun content but the rest of the game is dull and focused on presentation. The pacifist route's writing is honestly really asinine and pissed me off, but i guess i'll stick with a 5/10 because the sans fight is so fun.
If the entire game were designed like the undyne and sans battles on genocide route, it would probably be a really good game but it isn't, and most of the content is padding. The world/level design is boring and unsatisfying, the characters are one-dimensional, and having to play the game three times is just too much. the battle system is only used to its fullest potential in two fights on a route that you're actively dissuaded from playing.
No way can i understand how people could call this GOTY, it fails at its goals 90% of the time.
Henry Williams
wrong. Yea Forums liked it. so reddit started liking it not to be left out. then tumblr liked it.
Ian Clark
>I will never be worshiped by furries and ironic weebs on twitter Just do your thing, get the money and gtfo Tranquility>Fame
Colton Taylor
>I'm an "ideas" guy No one is stopping you from making that game. Earn the $50k yourself.
Samuel Smith
Never forget, that before undertale released, Yea Forums loved the demo. Everyone loved goatmom, and there were almost no detractors.
Jacob Lopez
the reality of the matter is that most people who think they're smart actually aren't all that special and only tell themselves that to cope with the fact that they're losers. "oh I'll do something special eventually, I'm bound to" while browsing Yea Forums for 8 hours a day every day and doing nothing. when you have actual talent with the motivation and drive to succeed, you have all the tools necessary to do so in the age of the internet. you just have to be talented and nobody wants to admit that they're probably not actually all that special.
Why is it so hard for you retards that the "loved by Yea Forums" phase is a small group, where after that the thing is foisted on the larger population that didn't form part of that group
Henry Cox
this
Kevin Murphy
he's leaving out the part where sakurai paid him for sex
Logan Allen
>another episode of "Yea Forums apparently liked X when it came out so anyone not liking it must be a newfag"
Benjamin Wright
>nobody wants to admit that they're probably not actually all that special I do but my family is the one that randomly keeps telling me I'm ''smart but lazy'' or keeps reminding me of my 'high' 3 digit IQ then I just shut them down since first I don't really think about it or care to think about it and second IQ doesn't amount for shit if you aren't actually doing anything at all, you can have a genius level IQ and still be a dumb fuck that does nothing but lazy around all day in bed.
Carson Butler
Why can't you people recognize the difference between talent and just being at the right place at the right time?
Justin Long
That's Toby? I always thought he was a white guy.
Jayden Myers
yeah he's a muslim
Nathaniel Young
In America that's (((white)))
Jace Rodriguez
I think it's cool in a cosmic sense because Toby started out with a rom hack of a Nintendo game that Nintendo doesn't acknowledge anymore. Nintendo doesn't like fan service, but Sans is an amalgam of Nintendo fanservice.
Blake Jones
pewdiepie had exactly the same thing happen to him. these kind of retards literally dropped high school and were somehow lucky enough to turn their life around with some shit they achieved in part only due to fate.
Ethan Bailey
game is shit and i wouldnt pirate it if you paid me. developer success is commendable though. there, everyone happy?
It's true though. Every niche game that gets love on Yea Forums is usually ignored by underage shitposters. Then when it becomes popular suddenly it was never liked at all.
you sound jealous of his success. keep telling yourself the reason you're a loser is because you're just not "lucky" instead of the fact that you've done nothing at all to deserve success
William Sanders
you think $51,000 is a lot to develop a video game with?