Who was right?

this

why would the potion seller even give a fuck? I honestly don't understand, his entire job is to sell potions, and he has a willing customer, and he refuses to sell the product to him? It just doesn't add up.

Killing your clients isn't good business sense

It's the 15th century equivalent of asking your doctor for Opioids for a runny nose.

Potion seller was right.

>knight drinks his potion in front of other knights
>promptly dies
>knights believe the potion sellers potions are poison
>stops buying potions from there

>call yourself potion seller
>not calling yourself 'potentially lethal potions if you're not strong as a dragon' seller
It was false advertising. Knight was in the right.

This is not the first thread.
But still. If the guy needed potions and seems that valiant about his own efforts, then he could have went through having already packed the 2nd most powerful cause to be honest seeking the best potions is sorta prestigious in on it's own. Given his valiance is worthy of the man's reputation, it would have been more honorable to just have made due in the moment and focus more on personal strengths.

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well maybe his regular clientele are powerful dragons so he doesnt need to advertise that.
the knight only knew the potion seller made the strongest potions.

DELORES
DELORES

DELORES

is this an AI generated post

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Who was in the wrong here?

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Based potionseller telling off low level scrubs

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The Knight
The Potion seller didn't try to give him a more appropriate potion and only told him "no u weak, go away"

His potions were for a higher caliber than the knight. It would be sold, just to someone or something else. The real question is, why would you want to buy a potion that kills you, especially if you’re going into battle?

If the Potion Seller had been more civil, the situation could have been easily resolved.

If only it was a perfect world, then men like the potion seller would not exist.

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>Why aren't doctors just prescribing oxy to everyone i mean they're willing dude

Just sell him mid ranged potions and tell him they're the strongest.

If potion seller can make the strongest potions then it's to reason that he can also make weaker potions. Instead of antagonizing the knight, they could have reached a clear cut dialogue where potion seller explains the fatal realities of his strongest potion to convince the knight of taking a weaker one. Clearly the knight was a reasonable fellow who simply misunderstood the strength of the potion sellers potions.

The knight's only fault that he was too passionate about going into battle.

Potion seller is right. The strongest potions were for the strongest customers, which wasn’t the Knight. Selling a deadly product to the knight would not only make th knight fail to win the battle, but ruin the seller’s reputation and business, since others would call him cruel or a murderer. The knight should have bought a weaker potion, you have to be low IQ to think him dying by strong potion is the right thing to do.

because the potion seller only made the strongest potions, all of his potions were too powerful for the knight.
the potion seller even recommended he see a weaker potion seller.

The knight was arrogant and thought he could handle anything

Knight called potion seller a rascal.

Not cool.

The knight wants to buy the potions, just give him the fucking potions rather than calling him a weak bitch
Fucking dumbass potion seller, who the fuck were you going to sell your potions to if they're too strong for even a dragon to use?
Potion seller, more like poison seller, amirite fellas?

as a master alchemist you're not going to waste your weakest 500hp potion on him let alone your strongest 5000hp/s regen potion when he's nervous about his little 30 hp against some goblin that does 1 damage per hit. he can't afford your wares anyways and will probably die before he could do business with you.

Look at the comments on this post: exhentai.org/g/1391694/1734b46b99/

It's one of the most morally gray situations of our time.

It’s illegal to discriminate against customers, so the seller is clearly in the wrong.

holy fucking shit i forgot about this

Naw it's pretty clear cut. Most people side with potion seller. Sure he could sell a weaker potion, but the knight never asked for a weaker potion. If he sold his strongest potion it would have killed the knight and hurt the store's reputation

Why even make potions that no man can't handle? Aren't you a fucking potion seller? What's the point of making strong potions if you won't sell them?

not for controlled substances, maybe in their world it's the equivalent of telling a minor to fuck off when they try to buy alcohol

SELL THE FUCKING POTION, BIGOT

Potion Seller 100%

If potion seller was a savvy business man he would have sold a weaker potion under the guise that it was his strongest potion.

his potions are for only the strongest. the knight could not handle his strongest potions

Bitch-ass potion seller just makes absolutely vile concoctions that are basically poison and he passes them off as "too strong"
I don't know how the fuck he stays in business, maybe he just threatens city officials with the threat of him actually using his potions

Oh fuck, is potion seller a supervillain?

Potion seller is not obligated to sell the knight his wares if he does not choose too.

>be a master alchemist who sells only the strongest of potions
>some weak knight demands your strongest potion
>sell it to him because hey a sale is a sale
>he dies of strength overdose
>everyone hears that your potions are poison and just kill people
>lose your business because some loser knight couldn't handle a strong potion
He was entirely within his rights to decide who he wants to sell his potions to, and the knight needed to find a merchant who sold weaker potions.

I'll give you that, the potion seller was too prideful and could never lie about his potions

You're all idiots.

Potion seller was bullshitting. He was only capable of making run of the mill potions. You think a fucking man who can make dragon killing potions would go unnoticed? He was pompous as he was delusional and the knight was too reasonable for his own good.

you know, you cant just say that without proof, and we just dont have the information to confirm/deny that claim. we need to focus on all the information we know.

I don't know who the knight was going into battle against but he really should have turned that sword on the potion seller
Potion seller is clearly about to try to take over the world within a few months

Truly the greatest philosophical conundrum of our time

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What makes you think the potion seller did not have some renown fame for his potions? That foolish knight went to him and asked for his strongest potions and when refused he demanded to be sold the potions. If it was really some run of the mill potion seller then why was the knight so insistent? No, the knight was going into battle and he needed the STRONGEST POTIONS.

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i thought it was only illegal on the basis of race/gender etc. not on the basis of being a weak lil shit

but the potion seller is stronger and doesn't need to respect knights because he's potions can do what they can do and better

Consider if he was truly renowned for his strongest potions then the knight would know not to ask for his strongest potions. In fact, he would have gone to the weaker potion sellers if that was the case. And yet he didn't. The knight chose to go the potion seller because he was fooled into thinking that he had strong potions but was met with a delusional fool.

Becuase that's what the potion seller is. A conman. Nay. He's even worse than a conman because he didn't even sell his potion. He's a lunatic who props up his supposed infamy with grand lies. Not enough to catch the scent of the alchemist guild but just enough to feed his ego by fooling the mundane traveler every so often.

>you got scrawny arms, boy. Get the fuck out of my shop!
Shit, I think you figured out the potion seller. His potion shop is just revenge for all the times he was told he was too weak to buy a sword. Now he just tells all the STR fags they’re too dumb to buy his shit.

His strongest potion would have killed him. It would have been bad for the reputation of his store if a warrior died from taking one of his potions, thus a sound business decision. The warrior is absolutely the one in the wrong.

fuck off knight
I told you time and time again, you are one of the weakest and this is what you do? Whine on an animated Nippon folklore tales forum?

ancap retards go

Health and safety regulations

hes a potion seller, not a diplomat

>implying

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>bro ive never tried acid but i want 15 tabs, i think i can handle it
>>go away retard
>R A S C A L

Free fucking market.
Potion Seller isn’t obligated to sell his wares to some knight riff-raff

How is this hard? You save the people you love.

>Ethos (convince via credibility/authority of persuader)
The Potion Seller, obviously, would know more about potions and his own product than the Knight. He expresses knowledge of their lethality, insisting that they are unfit for man or beast.
But as he is still a potion seller and can stay open for business, he clearly serves an elite clientele (demigods, titans, high level demons, etc.) that pay exorbitant prices for the strongest of potions.
>Pathos (convince via emotional response)
The Potion Seller should not be compelled to knowingly sell something that will be used to commit suicide. This creates undue hardship and other emotional trauma.
If you worked at a store and someone wanted to buy a jug of bleach while insisting to you that they're going to drink it after, you wouldn't make the sale, you would contact your manager and potentially the police.
>Logos (convince via logic and facts)
- As a private business owner, Potion Seller should be able to chose who he wants to sell to.
- Discrimination based on physical capability is not a violation of any equality law. You can be too short or fat to ride, or not meet the requirements to join the army or become a firefighter. The Knight in this case is too weak to drink the potion.
- Selling a buff potion that kills the drinker would be terrible for business, as customers would only care about that fact over any hearsay claim that the knight was warned.

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Give me ONE (1) reason to respect knights.
What can they fucking do that potions can’t?

we dont know if the knight has pestered the potion seller before, perhaps theres more to this?

He must be a shitty alchemist if his potions are capable of killing

That’s bullshit and you know it. You cannot, in a retail setting, be denied a product based on your size or strength, or physical condition. Dangerous or harmful substances can require the purchaser to be a certain age, but that’s it. And even that is not based on a store’s discretion, but government regulations and laws.

Political marriage

The potion seller was in the right. He knew the Knight was actually a closet faggot, so that’s why he was discriminating, which is okay.

>must be a shitty doctor if he can proscribe medicines that make you sick
brah

Have you ever played a game with deadly potions?
Poisons don't count

The knight. He was attempting to kill a dragon/fight in a great battle, a heroic feat that would land him much renown. The thing is, he wasn’t capable of doing it on his own, a critical requirement when attempting such a feat. So he decided to lean on outside powers to get the boost, essentially cutting corners to get something. The potion seller saw this the moment he waltzed in and promptly offered weaker potions as to say, “you’re not ready, sit down and be humble”. Further proving the potion seller to be right he insists on the potion, being arrogant and showing that he cares about nothing else except the glory he will get in the battle, as he’s clearly not ready to tackle it on his own, but he wants it here and now.
Knights are known for honor, diligence, patience.
This “knight” was a fraud, for he exhibited the exact opposite values a true knight holds.

I don't have a single person in my life that fits into one but not the other, though. Anyone I love is exclusively the people who love me back.

If a doctor prescribed you something that made you sick would you call him a good doctor?

he's a proud man

In a perfect world, arguments like these would not exist

Potionseller of course.

If it is a drug it absolutely can be denied to you based on your physical condition, you can't walk up and say "hey I'm 30 can you give me opioids??".

You'd have to get a prescription from a doctor for something potentially lethal if misused, and in this case as no one but the creator of the potion itself (Potion Seller) comprehends the full effects, only he is qualified to grant such a prescription and allow a sale.

no, but he'd still be a doctor

we have no information about the knight, though. for all we know the knight could have been a novice who just finished training, or just a civilian in a knight's armor he scavenged somewhere. if the potion sells potions that are too strong for him, then there are most likely beings that can handle them whom he sells them to.

But this is not a perfect world...

alchemy in TES, my man

But this is not a perfect world.

That is the point! He refused to sell deadly potions.

Why do we doubt the knight but not the potion seller? Riddle me this.

*The potion seller was right and the knight was wrong I meant

You can with a prescription. Again, these restrictions are NOT in place by the pharmacy, but the government. You can’t buy prescription medication without a prescription BECAUSE OF THE LAW, not because the shop wonder is a dick.

Very nice digits. Dumb question though.

Potionseller, he explicitly say he won't sell because the Knight is too weak and can't handle the strongest potions, meaning there is probably side-effects.

He is being a responsible business man.

That's lying user.

owner, not wonder.

PENTS OF TRUTH

>That's lying user.
A white lie.

Unironically one of the better debate topics of the 21st century, the implications are endless.

The knight only wanted the strongest.

The knight doesn't know what he's talking about and needs to be protected from himself. Give him the strongest that won't kill him.

No, it is not, not when you tell it only for your own convenience (Moving Sales and making a Customer shut up) then it is a pure black one. The Knight needed to get told he wasn't hot shit or he would just delude himself even more and base Potion Seller was the only one willing.

GOTEM

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But now the knight is going to die because he has no potions.

we should talk about this using rpg terms.
the potion seller was clearly only selling very high level potions and the knight's level was far too low, so to speak. you cannot equip gear that is 50 levels higher than your level. he couldn't handle them, which could mean that either it would simply be impossible for the knight to consume the potions or that there would be no benefits for him.
people say that the potion seller could have just sold him weaker potions, considering the knight only wanted the strongest, but the potion seller specifically advised him to go to a vendor who sells weaker potions, so we can assume that none of the potions the potion seller has are safe for the knight to consume, since he is simply too weak.

Maybe he should have grinded himself stronger before fighting the Dragon then.

Yes, but you can still fucking buy shit you can’t use in an rpg.

>He would have sold more reasonable potions if the knight had accepted less strong potions.
No he wouldn't have. He made it clear to get weaker potions the Knight would have to (keyword) find someone who sells weaker potions. The potion seller clearly did not make potions of a strength insufficient to kill a dragon, let alone a man.

His guild leader probably told all dps to buy those pots before the raid. He’s not going to fucking solo the dragon, but he’s going to get bitched at for low dps because of the fucking potion seller.

Potion seller has every right to not sell the knight his potions.

Just like that bakery didn't have to bake that faggot cake.

So many of you disgusting potion seller sympathizers must be (((sellers))) and (((merchants))) yourselves for not siding with the noble knight.
It's clearly a matter of life and death for the knight, the most important fight he's ever been in and thus he needs something so powerful that even if it kills him, he'd still take it to try and win whatever battle it may be.
You're all siding with the (((seller))) because he makes claims without any actual evidence of how strong his potions are? How many times do you see a film, game or anime where they have a prototype mecha, drug or weapon that's more powerful than anything else but not used because it's too dangerous, until a situation of the utmost importance makes one of the characters use it? This is clearly one of those situations.

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But he was going into battle, too late to grind.

If potion seller's potions could actually kill a dragon (let alone a man) then his customers would have to be literal gods. At that point Knight would know this, and would have no reason to question why the Potion Seller would continue to refuse him. Instead Knight is incredulous that Potion Seller would continue to spew clear lies about his potions being too strong, hence, Potion Seller is a rascal.

Potion Seller further proves this point when he expresses disgust for knights in general, and states his potions can do anything a knight can do. This was clearly a case of discrimination.

I literally explained in the post why obtaining a prescription for the potion (which the knight does not have) would be impossible.

All of this is from a legal perspective while assuming the operation is legitimate in the first place. Logically, medical restrictions on certain drugs do not count as a form of discrimination (operating under unlawful discrimination being illogical/wrong) - your body might be too weak or have a negative reaction. This is just good reasoning. Even a drug dealer might opt to not sell to children or people that look on death's door, and he would be in the right.
The Knight is doubted because there is nothing that supports he has any knowledge of potions.
The Potion Seller could very well just sell the product and not create it, and that would still imply he has better info than the Knight as he is refusing to make a sale over it. Someone who doesn't know shit would more likely be persuaded to get the money, as not knowing what your own fucking potions can do is would translate into selling them whenever some idiot wants to buy off you.

If the knight is so "noble" as you claim he is, surely he must have his own channels to procuring the produce. But no. He turns to random potion sellers as his first course of action. Also considering he is personally visiting the potion seller who is evidently of the merchant class, it is questionable whether the "knight" is actually even in peerage. He must be some poor sod who thought that wearing heavy armor and acting stuck up automatically makes you a knight.

The potion seller. When the knight kept insisting about the "strongest potions" he proved his ignorance. The fool would likely drink a potion of restore health thinking it would increase his strength, get rekt by a troll, heal, and then get rekt again.
Even if the potion seller gave him a weak potion the knight wouldn't care to ask what it did, and dead customers are bad reputation. Better to call him a bitch so he leaves than have to explain the intricacies of potionmaking to a fool who will get it wrong.

>his customers would have to be literal gods
In his own words, his potions are fit only for the strongest beings, while knight is of the weakest.

neither is not selling any fucking potions

yea because you can still be limited to just possessing the item but being unable to consume it, this doesn't apply here.

Prove it. How do you know he's turning to random potion sellers? How do you know that his kingdom has any ties with potion sellers to begin with? A knight arrives and asks for something, and with no demonstration of the power of his potions, the (((seller))) refuses to sell him one. Why? Because he is either a phony who doesn't sell real potions at all, or he's anti-knightmetic.

I fucking hate this glorification we have for knights.
>HURR DURR I'VE BEEN TRAINED TO KILL PLS GIVE ME ALL THE ACCOLADES AND WHAEVER I WANT

Nah, fuck those cunts.

Exactly! Why should we respect knights when potions can do the same things they can?

What task would the knight be tasked with if he explicitly needed only the strongest potions for even a hint of survival?

I blame the Holy Grail for being such a mean bitch

The knight.

We need legislation to prevent discriminstion based on level

>Drink potion
>Die
WOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS POTION WAS TOO STRONG

>Calling someone a rascal with a hard R

>Disclaimer: Potion is likely too strong for you. Buyer beware. We accept no responsibility for death that may occur from voluntary ingestion on your part.

Wow, so hard.

>this low INT post
The seller specifically stated that his strongest potions are not fit for a beast let alone a man. His potions would kill a dragon. The warrior was going to equip the potion and use it on the dragon

Potions, by their very nature, are made to be consumed. If I go to my local market for some fresh produce and I can't eat it because it'll kill me (unrelated to any allergies), then it shouldn't be sold or marketed as such.

>He thinks that putting a disclaimer protects you from what could be considered criminal negligence

Lawfag here, it can't.

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Oh okay so alcohol companies can be sued for somebody dying of liver failure. Gotcha """"Lawfag""""

>Being this wrong
>Larping as a lawyer

lol

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This one's easy, just chose whichever Fate route you prefer.

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>'Play Responsibly' disclaimer on scratch tickets
>Gamble away my life's savings, my children's college funds and lose my house and car to debt
>'Hehe, nice try with that little disclaimer, kiddo. Too bad it doesn't work!'
>*sues lottery for all of the lotto winnings in the world*

Epic

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What.
Vendors and manufacturers cannot predict that a product will be abused and long-term implications from abuse cannot be attributed to their product if it's not used in the recommended manner.
>Potion seller states his potion is strong enough to kill a dragon, let alone a man therefore the duty of care is on the seller to not kill the buyer
Unless you're some Amerishoot where MUH FREEDUMBs

Spoken like a true potion jew.

The failure of capitalism.

Seriously, hasn't anyone ever used these to kill their enemies? When a potion is so powerful it kills even the strongest beings, it's not a healing item. It's a weapon. The warrior needs it to be successful in the battle and the potion seller literally only denies him because "lol git gud scrub". He's the faggot who complains about the use of noobtubes. He refuses to acknowledge legitimate use of mechanics due to an arbitrary standard of something being too easy. The warrior wants to win. The potion seller wants the warrior to only win based on his shitty standard. The potions seller is wrong and a faggot cunt. If he's so good then he should go and show the warrior how a dragon is killed first before complaining that someone is going to go an use a level 99 potion to cheese the dragon fight.

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>oh, potion seller, I warn thee. If you shant bequeath me with my desired potion then I shall contact my uncle who has a penchant for dealing with such cases of discrimination against God's chosen, a powerful wizard in this land. You may know him by the name 'Rabbi Lebowitz'

This. Potion seller was in the right, if you disagree you're a fucking communist sympathizer.

>HAHAHA ANTI-SEMITISM xD
Do you /pol/tards have any new material, or is it always going to be this pathetic xenophobic trash?

Peanuts, by their very nature, are made to be consumed.

It stands to reason that the potion seller himself may very well not be capable of handling his own potions, and therefore would have no way to demonstrate the sheer godlike potency of his product without endangering himself, the knight, or anyone else beyond the potion sellers presumed powerful regular clientele, none of whom seem to be around at the moment. If the potion seller is bullshitting the knight, its a good bullshit, because no one that isn't as bullheaded and foolish as the knight would be dumb enough to make the gamble on a potion that will likely kill him.

The problem with the argument is that potion seller immediately assumes that it's the knight who's going to take his potion.

>Tells him they're too strong for him
>Knight continues on throwing a tantrum

>I need to buy cigarettes
>but you're 10
>i-it's for my dad!

Glad we're not in the 1950's anymore.

You can still do this in majority of the world's countries, even first world ones.

If a 10yo can buy smokes, it's not a first world country.

>I sell only the strongest dilators...