Astral Chain

I like the game alot, I'm playing on "PT Normal".

I dont know how they determine rank. I've gotten S from barely skirting out chugging health items as the Chimeras kick my ass up and down the street and I've gotten Ds when I kill things fast as fuck no hits.

The score system is just as unpolished as the rest of the game. Your score is based partly on time and there's a big bonus for no damage but just using perfect jumps or perfect calls and a couple of sync attacks will get you to S+

There's no penalty on items at all

You get points by statisying conditions. You can play like shit but if you use a variety of mechanics then you build out a bunch of bonuses and can get pretty easy S ranks. If you play well but do nothing but mash R2 and L2 then you fulfill any bonuses and get shit for score

The game doesn't have negatives that effect the score, so it's best to do everything right or some things really well than skate by just on nodamage.

I'm enjoying the game so far, but I feel it might down as one of Platinum's lesser titles for me. The frame rate is unnecessarily bad at times, especially during combat.

>think I should take more pictures cause I've barely got any in my album
>it's actually almost full because there's only room for 36 pictures
wtf plat, I want more pictures

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>awkward mashy combat
The combat is definitely not mashy, you will get your shit pushed in if you mash because you actually have to commit to your moves. You can't just dodge out of everything like you can in Bayonetta and Nier.
>pointless mechanics hastily thrown in from other better games (slash mode, zandatsu, liner)
Slash mode and zandatsu are the same thing. MGR Zandatsu had better controls, but It was used more like a finisher rather than a parry like in Astral Chain.
>dodge is worthless to the point that using it will hurt you and cqc is discouraged
Spoken like a brain-dead button masher. Nier might be more to your liking because you can spam dodge any attack.
>assloads of busywork in an empty city
Some people appreciate seeing a video-game cop actually do cop things for a change.
>only 1 higher difficulty
You're just padding out your complaint list, why would you want a higher difficulty if you hate the game already?
>generic dark animu story with no charm or levity
The story is serious, but everything outside the main missions oozes levity and charm. Prime example is Lappy and everyone's interactions with him. Hitting trash receptacles or your allies and Jaywalking gets you fined.
>Platforming that doesn't work
Get a clear light of sight If you bump into a door frame or fence, then don't expect to pass through them like a ghost.
>30fps with drops
It's a very stable 30fps, and a good compromise considering how sharp the game looks handheld.

There's actually some really odd conditions you can get points for, like getting hit while dodging.

why the FUCK does noah prime have 3 (THREE) instakill moves

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I didn't even know he had any when I fought him. Which ones does he have aside from the one where he crushes you in that energy sphere thing?

>Another game with shitty b&w color fade when near death
I'm already dying, did you really need to make it harder to see as well?

You are in an absolute blind rage of nonsense and stupid opinnions if you think this game is worse than TMNT

disliking popular things doesn't make you edgy or cool.

Only after you complete the intro. Of course you can go and replay that after you've changed it to Jap voices.

Pfft. Look at this shill, defending the game on his system with no games!

>not using actual combos that override their autos
Imagine not being able to read tooltips like a loser

he has two melee moves that can immediately kill you if you're not careful

i got unlucky a bunch of times and he kept doing it after the energy ball attack with his clones and would barely have enough time to react while the camera was freaking out

What the heck does "Size" mean in IRIS when you scan people? I can't make sense of the numbers it gives.

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even better when you finish a battle with low health and it carries over to the cutscene at the time, cool thanks

I've not unlocked it yet, but my guess is bust size

Those are body measurements, retard.

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Well yeah, I assumed one of them was bust, but what about the other two?
Waist and... shoulders?

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Dude, this is the kind of shit you resolve with a google search.

Damn, I think I might be an actual retard. How the hell do you enable boss health bars? I played through the entire game without knowing they were a thing.

Suit measurements. Bust, waist and hips.
The IRIS system is low-key pervy as all hell.

Chest, waist, hips. It's a very common body measurement format.

Activate the IRIS and move the cross to the enemy "red box" or just activate iris when you have an enemy locked in

scan them with Iris
There's also an ability that will let a legion do it automatically

Same way you get healthbars for everything else. Scan it with the IRIS.

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Ironic that you're a cop and you have access to this kind of information.

A SWORD DAY
A RED DAY
ERE THE SUN RISES
RIDE NOW
RIDE FOR RUIN AND THE WORLD'S ENDING

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>every astral chain thread up right now starts with a shitpost OP
I don't see File 12 at my computer while I'm in it. Can I safely switch to another file and then back to 12, or will I have to go through the end of 11 all over again or something?

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>information that can be used to help identify someone
It isn't ironic. Nor is it coincidental or even strange.

You can switch, you canplay any file and then if you hit b to back out it will ask you if you wanna go back to File 12

>using B/W/H to identify suspects
Only in muh Japanese gaymes

I'll never understand how anyone can make a TMNT game and not put in couch co-op.

how do I get these handholdy fucks to shut the fuck up

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All we need now is the Sword Legion on the cover with a mustache like Tigrex

I just got eye cancer from that.
Thank god this game is switch exclusive... only nintendo fans could enjoy this ugly crap.

Even more eye cancer... does this game even know what is pleasing to the eyes? Certainly not.

Sounds like every Platinum game, honestly.

A bloo bloo bloo

Okay awesome. Glad there's no bullshit and the game safely gives you a postgame hub.

some great input there buddy

God I miss those times when MH threads weren't the second worst thing on the planet

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>assloads of busywork in an empty city
These seem contradictory.
>pointless mechanics hastily thrown in from other better games (slash mode, zandatsu, liner)
Somewhat agree, but they don't bring the game down.
>dodge is worthless to the point that using it will hurt you and cqc is discouraged
How? Gun is kinda weak, and dodge is safe and spammy like Automata.

im certain at some point in dev time they changed that having your legion touch people in these specific stealth segments had you auto spotted
the stealth segments that have you follow people meanwhile still have it

Go away, Jiren.

Bunch of cry babies jerking off to pixelated shit. What's this? 2005?

Thank you for keeping the threads active

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No problem bro

Hello, my absolutely beautiful and fantastic friends. Um... Astral Chain? Yeah, it's pretty good.

Thanks, and, uh, goodbye.

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Heh, ya got that right OP.

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See ya

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Sasel necesita mas material, Jiren.
Por favor sigue haciendo pataletas.

>Hurr durr I'm a faggot
Go play some videogames.

Sure jiren

Keep hating for somebody critizing an ugly game for being ugly af on your favorite console with you nintendo fetish. I started with videogames when we played protagonists that were just fucking red squares. I thought the time went on and graphics got better? Why do I play a big pixelated square again on a toaster?

Nah, it's great. Only valid complaint is zandatsu, it feels awkward to use.

what does anti trip mean

Keep crying JirenGamer25. You will never EVER get Astral Chain.

Cry me a river. I'm already playing it. Switch isn't even that expensive for a guy who works. Seriously ugly game. Even the other Nintendo games look better than this shit. Only exception is Fire Emblem. That shit looks even worse.

Its been a while since i played Metal gear but i believe metal gear changed control and camera during zandatsu? or maybe its because you stand still and time slows down as it should be honestly, yeah it sucks.

>Is this Platinum's worst game?
Nah, that's TMNT followed by Korra then Astral Chain comes up.

Sure you are, niño rata.

boy or girl character?

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Do you want to look at her butt or hear her voice?

Below Transformers user, really.

Personally I can't really fathom the sibling character not being male, multiple times through the story they did things that made me think that.

Is the brother version of Akira better than the sister? She’s kinda annoying

>Can't write
>Uses teenager slang
>Claims to have been into vidya since Atari or earlier
You have to be 18 to post on Yea Forums, dude.

They’re annoying either way but I thought the guy fit a lot better.

The Girl's face is awful, looks like she was squashed. Better song and ass by playing female, though.

I bet you never heard of ardy lightfoot.

The female twin sounds better but in the dub they have the exact same dialogue either way, according to jap audiofags the brother is more serious but the sister can be a sarcastic little shit,
The brother also looks better in the Raven suit.

>I can't do it...
>protag actively pulls the leash to try and keep his sister from killing herself
Jesus, that was fucking dark.

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Is the Raven suit any different between genders? I was thinking how obvious the twist must be if every single Raven had obvious boobs and spats

>You always were too kind for your own good.

you fucking retarded nigger, that's clearly one of Platinum's finest

I feel like femkira comes off as narcissistic and self-absorbed while mankira comes off as having a massive inferiority complex and problems with jealousy.

Not much of a difference but I just think it looks better on the male, along with the red hair.
Game needs a fucking Zetman colour pallet I swear.

You can edit some palettes, if game dont deliver, make your own

>hey let's add a super saiyan mode at the end of the game that removes all your unique abilities and the fun parts of the combat
for what purpose

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it heals you i think so i mustly use it as "avoid death" rather than "deal damage"

I am dissapointed it's not a combination of using every legion at once, or at least some of their moves in one mode.

I have yet to play as the guy, but I agree on Mankira, and I think it’s a good fit. Your sister being all wannabe hardcore weirds me out a lot more as a concept.

Kill yourself Spic

I know but I see the male character and all I think is Zetman.
But I can't get the right balance of Jin's outfit.

I agree because I picked Famkira
Bro Akira just feel like a little bro that got bullied a lot and thought being a police officer would change that.
Now instead of human bullies he has angry digimon bullies

is this a game where being spoiled on the plot matters

No fucking way. I feel lied to

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Thats your biggest spoiler right there honestly, everything else is predictable.

i do agree that when they started dumping so many extra mechanics like zandatsu it started to feel a tad bloated but it doesn't seem like you NEED to use all of them, they're just... THERE for you.

There’s a couple of good twists, but the story is more of an anime pastiche for cool moments. It’s like W101. Dumb story, incredible moments that you don’t want spoiled.

Have you watched NGE

my problem is that my brain wants to press B to do attacks and it's only after a couple seconds i realize i'm just flipping all over. it feels weird to press ZR to do a basic melee attack.

>The combat is definitely not mashy, you will get your shit pushed in if you mash because you actually have to commit to your moves.
why do you think the game starts people on a gradeless difficulty by default, they knew people wouldn't bother to learn.

Honestly i think W101 had a good story if you ask me, the idea of them being the meneace in the future, Red vs Blue struggle all of that was pretty good.

Is Julia hitting on Lappy?

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Someone post Marie! I need it for research purposes of course!

What a joyless unpleaseable faggot you are.

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Too much Luka.

Sure.

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somewhat? For the first time in Plat history, plot sort of matters
You start off thinking it's NGE through the lens of Kamen Rider and Bubblegum Crisis
Turns out you've got some Digimon in there too

She's white so it makes sense.

Fair point.

There's no competition.

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>IT'S NOT FAIR BROS THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING FOR US TO PLAY

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>that panty line

kino

uh
I got softlocked on the album menu
what do I do

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Collectathlon is really fucking dumb if your game has plentiful points of no returns.

literally built for sex

Why does this game in particular upset Playstation owners so much?

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Its been a while since they got to play a Platinum title, and it will continue to be so, so expect this same shitstorm or worse when bayo 3 releases.

It's not that the game doesn't have negatives as much as it's a merit system rather than a de-merit system

stupid americans

because it's Platinum games biggest new IP and they can't play it, also, their best exclusive released this year barely works :
youtube.com/watch?v=Fxaf8XU2PRw&t
and when it does, it's just another zombie game with absolutely nothing interesting, unique or special

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Shitposting always happens with exclusives but it frustrates me that it's also used as an excuse to ignore criticism. I'm a fan of several other Platinum games, don't give a fuck about the PS4, I own Astral Chain and find it disappointing so far. Maybe it gets better later but so far it's been tedious. I'm worried the success of this and Automata will fuck up Platinum.

>Start drawing character
>Design has too many parts
>Give up
I don't think I'm gonna make it, bros.

>dodge is worthless

Lmao okay kiddie, instead of crying on the internet out your game on unchained mode :)

post timestamp and screenshot of time played, if not you're a faggit

Honestly, stick with it. It's got that Wonderful101 learning curve where once it all clicks it's a blast. Also, the combat significantly opens up when you start working your way down the skill tree.

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It's not the combat I have a problem with, it's everything else. Unless the second half of the game completely cuts all the bullshit I don't see how it's going to get so much better.

guy's a false flagger, why are you even attempting to reason with an obvious snoylet?

Taura’s their action RPG guy and will likely continue to be that. Platinum’s other teams aren’t going anywhere.

Thanks for this reply user, saved me time from replying to brain dead OP who probably tried it for 5 minutes on his friends switch.

Legions do their own thing when next to an enemy, yes. But sync-attacks, which are MUCH more damaging, are only done by pressing the Legion button when you flash at the end of certain attacks. Unless you get an ability chip that automates it.

That ability seems like a great way to take a ton of unnecessary damage.

The only thing that really sucks about it is that you'll automatically recover from being flung, often RIGHT BACK into whatever smacked you so it can smack you again. I played with it for about half a mission because it was a side-effect on an ability chip that was really fucking good at the time, but it ended up not being worth it because of the above issue. Not that this game actually fucking grades mistakes, mind you. I still got S and S+ throughout. But I FELT like I was playing shitty so I stopped.

Post your fucking officers Yea Forums.

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Not really.
It does become annoying when you get launched into a lengthy cinematic combo after every enemy is already defeated.

If you don't enjoy playing a super cop walking the beat, helping people, and picking up cans then you will ultimately hate this game. Playtime is totally even between investigating quests, platforming in dungeons, and raw combat.

Is there a way to get his mask? i love how it animates when he talks

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The holo-mask yes, the faceguard is unknown or well-hidden no-one has found everything yet.

>It's a very stable 30fps, and a good compromise considering how sharp the game looks handheld.
You don't like action games.

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He's not wrong though, it's a stable 30fps unless you're basically standing in a boss, and it plays well.

In his defense, this is one of the least demanding actions games I've played. Not that I'm not enjoying it, I am, but it's no Bayonetta. Or MGR. Or NieR:A. Or really any other Platinum Games game, which is extraordinarily confusing if we're being real.

Literally everything you said about the combat is wrong

Not that guy, but what throws me off about the zandatsu in astral chain is how I have to line the cut up with the left stick while aiming with the right. I keep trying to do the opposite because thats how it works in Revengeance.

I love when assmad shits try and convince themselves I'm not having fun.

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What. It’s the first Taura game where defense has actually had any sort of nuance.

I saw it more as him being whiny and insecure because he wants to protect his sister but can't because he lost his legion.

SOMETHING DEEP INSIDE

Both really.
Male Akira loses his dad by being nowhere near as strong as he is, even Jin is implied to be close to Max's level and Jin's replacement Legion is Axe.
Then he can't do anything to help his sister, who manages to save his ass when the Arrow comes calling.
Taking it deep from Jena and the subsequent Raven thing just add to him feeling worthless.

The only downside of Astral Chain is the framerate which is a by product of being on the switch.
The game is great as it is, but no one can deny that playing at 60 frames wouldn't be a fantastic step up, the frames can also be very inconsistent in some chapters, you fucking know the one I'm talking about, I gained a huge headache trying to do all the side quests in there before moving on, there were so many it took me hours, I swear the framerate was bellow 20 at times.
Oh, And not being able to turn off gyro controls.
It's kinda like Vanquish, you like it, but you just wish it was on a better system. Until the PC port came out, which will likely never happen for AC since Nintendo likes to hold that shit pretty much at gunpoint.

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KEEPING ME ALIVE

Also because his sister gained some crazy telepathic-legion powers that make her far stronger than him.

Imagine your sibling you’ve protected your whole life instantly turn into Storm x She-hulk while you can only watch and feel sorry for yourself

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In what way? Defense is what it always is; a dodge button.

>And not being able to turn off gyro controls.
Fucking shit. I was just about to pick the game up. How often do you need to use the gyro? I fucking hate motion/gyro controls.

>cop team is almost completely gone from the last two cases
>Alicia and Jin both fuck off even earlier
>neither of the villain's motives/goals are given much of an explanation beyond muh salvation
9/10, I feel like the game set up some really solid themes but didn't quite use them as well as they could have. I'm glad they at least ended the game on one final act of teamwork, but I would have loved it if your whole Neuron team busted into the ARI fortress to lay down the law since the whole gang was so tight-knit up until the end.

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youtu.be/AvvMnQ2ylQg

I'm having Xenoblade X flashbacks with this OST

Marie not fucking Lappy dude it’s a big plot twist.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE

Sure

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the word cringe has lost all meaning

The problem was the fact that they're all cops and Neuron was effectively turned into RAVEN because the commander was a cunt.
It would've been a thing of beauty if Alicia and Jin appeared at the end of File 10 but really they would've been busy because of other police shit.

Sequel whenever, I want more of this.

>all my credits were full of pics of Marie
heh

side quests so who cares. and it can fuck with your aim if your using the Arrow legion aim mode. But it's so fucking weak that I didn't even notice it was because of gyro controls and just thought aim mode had some natural sway built in.
Still a negative though.

It’s been almost an hour
He is a faget

Blade Mode, Shooting Mode, and two or three minigames. It doesn't come up enough to actually get in the way of anything. Believe me, I hate fucking gyro controls too, but I never felt like these ones broke up any action because you only really ever use them for puzzle solving instances, not actual combat

Yeah, it's kinda easier for me to contextualize his faggotry when I look ay it that way I went through an insecure phase toward my older sister's achievements myself when I was younger

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Thanks for the responses, friends. Doesn't sound too bad. Surprised they didn't put in the option to disable them. Maybe in a patch.

As dumb as this sounds? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's an unlockable menu option. There's actually a lot of menu related customization options locked behind accolades. HUD opacity, more HUD colors, IRIS voice settings, etc.

It's pretty fucked up they didn't because the game even tells you in the minigames that you can use the R analog if you don't have gyro controls.

>focus on avoiding damage and counter-attacking when it's safe
>D rank
>button-mash and hope for the best
>lmao S+ rank
Why though?

I wonder if they will. Platinum is generally very light on post-launch support.

I'd really like an improved scoring system, a higher difficulty, and better gyro aiming.

Will the snoy cope ever stop?

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>zandatsu and slash are the same thing
Stopped reading here
Zandatsu is a qte finisher that restores health

If you don't like the non combat parts of the game then don't worry you'll love file 6 onward, that's where the game truly takes off

I don’t think you’ve played the game for very long. The dodge is one option among four reliable ones that you use in different ways. It’s so far removed from something like Automata where the dodge was fully invincible and infinitely spammable.

>how is dodge weak
It's slow, it doesn't move you anywhere if you aren't click-running, and it has no i-frames. It's basically worthless. The viable defensive options are perfect call and chain jump.

On ult standing near an enemy is instadeath, you run away and spam gun/unchained legion

The combat is not very polished

Can you get the Raven aesthetic for your legions? I have the suit but it doesn't quite fit being full red and black while your Legions still have a blue core.

No red core and chain but you can get the Raven colours for the Legion, you gotta kill slimes though.

>neither of the villain's motives/goals are given much of an explanation beyond muh salvation
My biggest complaints were that 90% of the games story was 'muh secret motives and secret reasons for everything including protag's birth and not a single thing is answered or explained. Ever after beating the game you don't have a clue who main antagonist was talking to earlier in the game and you have no clue what he was trying to do other than gain power but why. World is already shit so what's more to fuck up? Jena's motives and reasonings were non stop contradictory and made no sense either. And looking back I can't say Jena and main antagonist weren't doing exactly the same thing yet the dialogue treats them as polar opposites, the writing for this game is fucking trash. I love it though I'm still grinding out the post game content. Unironically game is a mediocre anime story at best executed really well. It felt like the writers had a bunch of ideas but didn't know how to story tell it so it just got left out.

You're right, I have a clip I think at the start of file 7 or 8 where lappy is spinning around on floor 2 and Marie is on the roof by the helicopter, you talk to her to leave HQ but if she's there who's the spinning lappy? I think game devs over looked this or lappy is not Marie.

On ultimate in some post game missions if you don't dodge or okay right you just straight up die so you basically get an S+ just for beating the mission.

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I'm not opposed to a game where the defense consists of things other than a dodge button, but why add one just to make it worthless?

The dodge in this game is like a prank or something

Dodging has a few I frames and easily gets you out of harm's way with proper positioning, you sound mad because you can't stand inside the enemy's asshole and avoid getting shit on after he's fully charged his diarrhea attack. Git gud but completely unironically.
I've been playing on ultimate and I rarely use guns because it's so weak. I constantly am swapping between sword and axe legion and have no issue getting off combos while playing around the enemies, I've done over 40 of the post game cases as well and don't know how many more there are to go.

I'm in File 7. Dodging and parrying, which isn't guaranteed if someone lacks an ability chip, and the only two consistent defense options you have. Anything else is circumstantial.

Slime on File 6. When you finish talking to Kyle and take the elevator back outside look around.

>hurr it has i-frames
Nope
>durr playing cqc is fine
Not if you're dodging, only if you're using perfect call or escaping with chain jump
>git gud
No u

Why am I getting my ass reemed on the claymore tutorial? Why is the dodge so flakey? How do I avoid the big guys ground explosion thing?

>dodge is good it has i-frames

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I don't think dodge is meant to be defensive, as counter-intuitive as that sounds. I'm convinced it's there PURELY to facilitate counter-attacks.

If your health gets low just remember you can send your Legion out to attack on your behalf.

They look similar enough. I guess the plot twist right away as soon as they brought up you two are the only ones that have ever had that kind of connection with your Legions, then he just pulls several more literally out of nowhere. It just screamed clone plot. They fact they had hidden faces and didn't say a word just made it more obvious.

It's mitigated by the fact you can go back and just replay specific segments of each level without having to go through the whole thing again.
Plus it saves the highest ranking for each thing you do. So if you do 5 parts, get an S+ in 4, but get a D in the second one or something, you can just go back to the second part and try until you get an S+, then back out and it'll just go "yep, that's 5 S+s right there."

It does have i-frames, it just also has recovery frames. That's why everyone complains about spin2win enemies hitting them after they perfect dodge.

Stop dodging. If you must get close, use perfect call or chain jump away

>why is dodge so flakey
No i-frames. Also it doesn't cancel anything, but the game buffers the dodge anyway, which makes it feel super slow and shitty

Perfect call is an extremely good defensive option, parrying is very easy to put on everything, and you haven't even unlocked blocking. You can also cut enemy attacks. Dodging in this game is nowhere near consistent for combo attacks, it's really more useful for moving out of the way.

I'm enjoying the game but the platforming is a bit dodgy and the fps definitely drops
>considering how sharp the game looks handheld
lol
I really wish this and Daemon X Machina weren't Switch exclusive. They'd look so much better on PC or something. Its better than not playing it though I guess

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>Stop dodging
The big gorillas don't really give me much of a choice.

There's also Perfect calls, Chain Jumping and the defensive options the Axe Legion gives you