How would you fix it?

i would fix it by banning your account you stupid motherfucker

Not as much as you fags like to pretend

>warlocks need ritual of summoning at 20 or earlier

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>why yes, I enjoy wasting 30 minutes of waiting for everyone to get to the dungeon entrance

What are you gonna beg for next? Mounts at 20? Fuck off back where you came from retailcuck.

This is exactly how classic was.

>You think you do but you don’t.
Lmao @ u brainlets

you get it at 20 rtard

Leave everything as it is, insurmountable human suffering is a part of the classic experience. Also classic should be incompatible with mods but thats just my opinion

>up to curse of recklessness rank 4
>go sit in the pond in elwynn and cast it on mobs as they get pulled
Just because you arent flagged doesnt mean you cant be ganked ;-)

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>tfw all my friends quit because of all the walking around
they spend more time auto tabbed auto walking than actualy playing the game

>Tame a bear
>Go hide myself in the bushes far from any quest objectives
>Eyes of the beast (talented of course)
>Have my bear sit in the middle of the other bears, hes too high level to actually aggro anything
>Wait for some level 7 to come slap him without thinking about it
>Lowbie flagged and free for the murdering for the next 5 minutes

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Then don't play it lol

warlocks are the true chad class, they can fuck over both factions

Limit the amount of dungeons you can do per day/week. Dungeon grinding is no different than retail.

Increase difficulty of already existing mobs/dungeons/raids.

>Die to this once
>Wait 5 minutes for flag to drop
At least you tried

On your end Ive inconvenienced you a few minutes. On my end Im up to 12 people in the last hour attacking Smokey and immediately dieing

Remove dungeon maps but yeah

Maybe give Paladins back beta crusader strike/holy strike, and give them a taunt. Buff shaman as well

>he's playing classic to raid MC

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same here. really wish they did something to address this, it sucks.

id stop making threads for it

dungeon+ for classic :)

>Buff shaman as well
Fucking nerf shaman unkillable horseshit nigger class fucking have to bubble hearth every time one glances at me perfect kiting and all the burst healing and acting as the third layer of immunity to CC horde gets

>See someone opening a chest
>BoP him and take the chest for myself
Drop that liot bro, the Light needs that!

Kill dungeon "cleave" raiding and add LFG tool to let people use chatting channels for actual chatting

once again it's because no one wanted to trick the game back then
it took 2 years for people to trade their oh so glamorous purple gear for green gear with the right elemental resistances
up until wotlk people still wanted to stack hp instead of having mitigation, which is why patchwerk would keep fucking raids over
people already started to stack ice resist gear for sindragosa, people already know which strats will be used
naxx will be cleaned in two days top

THIS

Better class balance so all specs are endgame viable. That's all I want.

>have to wait to get in the game
>have to wait to take a quest
>have to wait to not be killed by a player
it feels so good to do this

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>Get a stealthy cat pet
>Put it on aggressive
>set him up to stand on a road in stone talon stealthed
>no shoe niggers faces as they try and walk through that narrow passage near the lake

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What could Warcraft 4 even be about?
I don't follow WoW, stopped playing in Vanilla all those years ago, but from what little I know it has gone full retard and killed all the major villains.

No one's ever really gone.

when the content is as easy as vanilla, they all are

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Ideally all addons should be added to the base game and addons should be removed.
If adding them would hurt the game, they should be banned altogether.
Addons either hurt the game, or provide features that should've been there from the beginning.

Make the combat actually interesting. It's near cookie clicker levels of basic and as we've seen from Onyxia being taken done so fast, the difficulty was greatly exaggerated

enjoy your ruined lore and shit characters

>ruined lore
>implying wow's lore isn't a complete dumpster fire of trash

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add back durability loss on pvp kills. I thought this was #nochanges ?

I don't think that was implied at all

>shit characters
Are you one of those faggots who calls the undead lady "MUH QUEEN"?

Remove layering.

just because its shit doesn't mean it won't be shittier
every time they do anything is worse than the previous shit
>why is slyvanass with horde
>well now sylvanass is retard

no
are you one of those faggots that roleplay a human warrior and want to blowjob anduin or sasuke?

It's [[[erfect

Barely any walking for me. Just constant killing.

Make it free to play

Its fine and most people ive met in game feel the same. That said
I dont want wc4 because im certain just like sc2 blizzard would ruin the custom map scene. Dont tell me you faggots forgot about that shit

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How about a lfg channel instead?

I can't wait until Naxx releases

>shadowmeld at tanaris beach
>wait for people to waste 20 minutes escorting that fucking chicken
>have my pet kill them to reset the quest

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how would you make combat interesting? it's much better than vanilla's repetitive set forced rotations

What if we made the classes play simon says with light up buttons and made every fight simultaneously Grob + Heigan?

than retail's*

Cata was peak class gameplay
bring it back

>We'll make the game exactly how it was.
>But we're leaving in secure unit frames so none of the addons people had work.

Either they need to give us /focus and cast bars back or they need to unlock the API to the point you can make one-button rogues.

>aoe farming
>warrior tries to kill me
>doesn't succeed
>runs away
Why are alliance cucks so pathetic?

lol @ all the huntards in the thread acting like they win more than 10% of their pvp engagements. I merc u fags even when you get the drop on me

>No hunters talking about actual pvp the whole thread
>Feels the need to brag about killing hunters
Got kited?

how do i win vs priest and lock as a druid?

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Use the legendary Final Technique of the Saotome School of Anything Goes martial arts just run away lmao they cant catch you. Its two really shitty matchups that you can totally avoid because druids are able to pick and choose what fights they want to get in

wrong thread my b

the only thing that needs to be fix is that quest items drop forever everything else is perfect besides layering.

Eh. Kinda. BFA’s main imperfection is that its dungeons are brain dead and there’s no need to communicate with other players because you can just solo everything while leveling no matter what class you are. Heirlooms and dungeon finder were by far the worst changes made to WoW

wait for them to go under 100 mana and hope they don't have potions.

>How would you fix it?
>just a couple of qol "fixes"
The game need a full reboot at this point. There are too many aspects that are flawed.

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This has to be bait

>trusting blizzard to make something good if they start fresh
This is the only reason everyone wanted vanilla back just the way it was. It’s a flawed game, but has great aspects. Whereas modern blizzard would never be able to make something as good again, and they can’t be trusted to improve qol either

I honestly hope they fully retcon the entirety of WoW if warcraft4 is ever made.

It's 1.12, that's 11 big patches of powercreep (MC was introduced in 1.1), which is A LOT.

And people are now already experienced with raiding, sure, but I'll take the dps, healing and tanking a 57 with greens can do over what a half-geared lvl60 any day of the week.

How could it possibly be b8? Heirlooms forever fucked the balance of lower level dungeons, and dungeon finder made it so you never had to leave the capitol city

Because BFA is boring and shit, and so were all the classes after they gutted them of identity

I want better pet balance. Tank pets shouldn’t be completely useless and broken tooth is just retarded

No.

My guild chat is full of ''invite to layer plz'' to power farm, and to escape horde ganks.

There's also some other small features i really don't get the point of, such as the raid button whenever you join a party. Its like Blizzard has decided that having a big button in the middle of your party member's icons is ''better'' than the old ui.
Just make it authentic to the old vanilla and everyone will be happy.

Bring back pets that did elemental damage and give a few other rares brokentooth damage then dont ever touch pets again

>zoomers

...

>a quest to get a single item can take up 40 minutes because the item just won't drop
I'm sorry, I love everything else, maybe except the running around, but this is complete cancer.

Naxx and AQ will be cleared day one dude. People know what gear and stuff they need and they have ample time farming it.

have classes manage multiple different things like buffs dots and branching combos etc. There are so many ways you can do it that's interesting but instead its so simplified you could play it on a fucking tablet
>youtube.com/watch?v=BcIG-k-RBAE

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>using ffxiv combat as an example

give an example of better combat then?

also delete all the CC options and make all the gear just stat increases without unique effects. also add anime cat girls and loading screens everywhere .

Go back to your containment thread tranny
FFXIV is barely even MMO

it's an mmo with better multiplayer and rpg. WoW fucking shits itself when there are more than 50 people in one location

at least its not furry

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lol kys
ffxiv is basically a solo game, you can even get a fucking AI party

All wagies and zoomers will be rounded up and shot

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there is literally a bara fur race and toddlers in trannyfantasy XIV. your community makes goldshire in moongaurd look like the GOP.

yeah bro it's not like it's filled with trannies rping as cat girls or anything

>not on the dps meter
>or the healing meter
>druids

That's 200iq, all I remember from warlocking was dumping a level 60 infernal just inside the deadmines farmhouse entrance so people couldn't immediately see it.

New content would be nice, but it's probably not going to happen. One thing I wouldn't mind seeing is an optional hard mode for bosses since everyone complains about how ClAsSiC rAiDs ArE tOo EaSy.

>Every raid boss has an optional hard mode that can be triggered by beating it in a certain time limit or by meeting certain requirements
>It would add flavor to bosses and satisfy hardcore raiders with a new challenge
>Hard modes would offer more gold for downing bosses, additional drops from the preexisting loot table, or they could add new gear pieces that are appropriate for the raid tier

That's about it really. If they don't do that then I wish they could tune up the bosses a bit to account for 1.12.1 being easier than previous patches.

>judging a class by meters
>zoomers

Buff bosses numbers to make gearing and farming relevant
Then release BC

prowl behind them in cat form till they overpull or let themselves drop low and hope you can nuke them before they fear you

You say that like it's the same people. It isn't.

>nerf brokentooth to 1.2
Or
>Restore rares all having different abilities
or
>Swap BMs talents so that instead of a 30% speed boost at 20 you can tame exotic pets
>give exotic pets better versions of existing pet abilities and nothing else
or
>Make the level 20 BM talent a boost that makes every pet have the bonuses of offensive and defensive pets without the detriments

(after years of practice)

>took only 4 days for people to realize classic was shit
lmao

>meters don't matter!
t. complete shitter

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No. This would allow Lupos to be the best pet in the game because he can do shadow damage, and for fast pets like Talk the Leaper to outrun epic mounts.

It adds more flavor sure, but Lupos is broken AF when he does shadow damage lol.

Brokentooth is only useful in PvP, serpents are better in PvE.

Lupos was nerfed to normal damage in 1.9, he's just as good as any other wolf in classic

We got us a druid shitter here.

>on a brigade against druids
>in vanilla
Hi Tigole, looking for ways to ruin Classic+ now?

Kneecap mages and hunters so they don’t get ezmode leveling.

What about the other three? Im just spitballing I havnt played hunter since BC but if brokentooth being broken is such a big thing why not just put him back to 1.2 or do the buff they made with bangladesh to make a more accessible 1.0 attack speed pet

>meters
>a zoomer concept
Been there since forever ago wannabe caveman.

Bullshit. You fucking want trans-futa girls in the game so you can circle jerk about it to feel better about your white guilt. Go take another Prozac Stanley.

>remove the only niche a hunter has

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Make it more fun..
I'm level 27 and already bored.

He's not that broken, only good at pushback, increased attack speed hits your damage by an equivalent amount and against high-armor targets in PvE it really does them no favors, nor does near-instant deaths to cleave mechanics.

go back to your ffxiv containment thread then

Guild Wars 2 has pretty good combat with all the kit-swapping classes can do.

Well if hes not that broken I remember at some point there being more common elities with higher attack speedm its all fuzzy but I do remember bangladesh having a skill that was just faster swing speed

they’re not the end all be all, as the druid isn’t there to top meters lil zoom

I think having more 1.0s attack speed pets isn't a bad idea, as long as they are either elites or rare spawns. The only other 1.0 pets are the ZG bats. I can already imagine that getting BT is awful right now on high pop servers lol.

Then again, normalizing the high speed to be 1.2s isn't a bad idea either I guess. It's a less fun option though, and I think the hunters that tame rare or elite pets should be rewarded.

Tank pets do kinda suck tho, the only ones worth using are bear or boar. Crabs, gorillas, and turtles are very slow. Well, I guess gorillas and crabs are good for the lulz but still.

no one said otherwise retard

what is this pic trying to prove

>years of practice
>for 3 boss mechanics

SPBP
/thread
Although a W4 made by nuBlizzard would be just slightly less shit, all I want It's clousure for the series, for fucks sake.

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>all the responses to this are just wow fags splerging out screaming tranny and to leave
>no one actually discussing the point of combat gameplay
I hope you guys stay trapped in your skinner box until the end of time

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This, droprates in this game are fucking cancer.

Tank pets are useful for soloing elites and instances. Not sure what else you could do with them.
Nothing has more raw attack speed but when ZG comes out the Bats from there will tie it, you're just thinking of the Frenzy talent in BM that applies to all pets. Pets with slower attack speeds will get more gain out of it though by simple percentage math, hence why they would be better than BT for raw DPS.

There's a lot more to it than just boss mechanics but you aren't going to listen.

>that one spider venom quest in hillsbrad that takes literally hundreds of kills to drop

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>ffxiv is basically a solo game

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That anyone who isn't APES and doesn't have the same years of private server practice can't do the same shit they did. That guild fell apart during this 9 hour(!) run.

>Well I guess that Zeb didnt have any hooves.

Grinding those 100 mobs for that drop will get you more experience per hour than any amount of questing, they're giving you a flimsy excuse to utilize the best grinding methods without knowing it's a objectiveless slog, you should thank them.

DELETE THIS TRANNY

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Yes, we can see a bunch of people are playing this solo game
Let's not kid ourselves, XIV is a good game but an extremely shitty mmo

My god... that must be what, 40, 50 people? It's hard to tell since they look the same as the NPCs.

>doing rag without fire resist gear
basic fucking requirement

Why do I get the feeling I'm the only huntard playing
I never see hunter and druids

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what is a good mmo and what does it have that xiv doesn't?

You don't necessarily need it if you do the fire resist mind control thing in UBRS

This.

Like half of those are NPCs lmfao

care to post one from wow? Just curious of course

I see plenty of other Hunters, what I never see are Pallys or Warlocks on my server atm

>release tbc
>all the plebbit basedlet whoresomers finally gtfo
>all the intellectuals come back

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Definition varies from person to person but I don't consider a game in which people keep their mouth shut and don't group 99% of the time much of a MMO
I'm not saying people are all autistic (though there is a big chunk of autist), its just the way the game is designed. You don't need to group or go towards people the large majority of the time. That plus the streamlined cutscenes, lack of PvP and instanced everything makes for a comfortable solo player experience, but shits in the MMO side of xiv.

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like what exactly?
there's just grinding the gear to resist the damage.

>proceeds to watch fifteen hours of cheap cutscenes while doing fetch quests and solo-only instanced story quests
"finally I can party with other players!"
>queues up for a hallway dungeon with the only communication being "hello" at the start if you are lucky

Killing whatever those fucking centaurs are called for bracers is a goddamn nightmare. Ive killed atleast 60 of them and have only gotten 3 bracers. I dropped that shitty quest, how terrible

I see, thanks.

After Phase 6. Re-scale Burning Crusade and WoTLK as level 1-60 content. Dungeon sets and skins is now the endgame along with PvP. Add interesting WPvP things to do. Remove flying from the game (Yes some areas will need to be modified/redesigned). Make the "Meme" specs viable. No Dungeonfinder / LFR EVER. I'm not against a group finder, but it must not teleport you anywhere.

Cataclysm can't really be added easily, however an idea would be to have you choose which version of the old zones you're in. Almost everything after Cata can be scaled as 1-60 content.

But that's my suggestion because it would be "Easy" for Blizzard to do. It would be better for them to design new Expansions or possibly do a Caverns of Time alternate timeline story.

What about new shit instead of the absolute rape of the story that was TBC?

>Thinking they're gonna come up with new lore
Oh sweety

Although they claim #nochanges, what are some changes theyve actually made?

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Why not? They rewriting it every patch since TBC

layering

Go back to ffxiv zoomzoom

Just read the chronicles bro written over a decade later, it all makes sense.
Also, some of the stuff in there is no longer canon too, working on a new chronicle.

No skeletal piles, pre-TBC class balancing despite only being at Molten Core

So now that they have things kinda sorta in stone you think they're gonna make another branch of lore that would necessitate them changing the content they already have

If no one said it then who are you quoting?

you also have tranq shot

I'd kinda want Pandaria era pet AI, cause vanilla controls for pets is kinda shit
But also being able to competently work with the shitty AI makes me leagues above other hunters by default

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>It would be better for them to design new Expansions or possibly do a Caverns of Time alternate timeline story.

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>wants aggressive stance removed for casualshit assist stance
Fuck off

>Classic is the better video game
Oh boy, they're comparing piss and shit again!

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Stop playing
Saves you money and you lessen queue

> implying they haven’t left already
I love it, most casual and shitter I know already left because too much walking, I got killed or warrior is to bad

>they remember they're in the expansion with resilience shit, stunherald meta and elftrannies
>turn 360 degrees and log out

Change nothing about current classic servers. After all of the phases have ended, introduce a couple of new servers for "Seasonal" gameplay. Like the Diablo seasons, these will be reset every season. New content for Classic will be added to these seasons a little at a time. Ideally, these would be more like twists to the original than any real new content. Perhaps one season has only one continent or a bonus to elemental damage. The next season may randomize the level ranges for dungeons. Maybe the next adds a M+ affix to the raids.

I think it's the only way to satisfy classic purists and keep the other people coming back to classic after they get bored/complete everything.

Dungeon "cleave" spamming is strictly a result of having so many players at the same leveling range. In a few weeks time when the majority of the population is level 60 and focusing on raids and pvp, the number of these min-max levelling groups will drop off drastically until it's only normal dungeon runs again at the lower levels.

It's not like it's even an issue though. I remember running the scarlet monastery over and over again back in the day, even if it was in a normal group and not 4 mages and a healer. Main reason back then was because I hadn't done many dungeons so far, the group was up for it, and FUCK the shimmering flats.

It's because blizzard made the dungeons so retardedly fucking easy and elites aren't even really elites anymore so it just becomes crazy crazy efficient to aoe entire dungeons at once

Classic might be more "accurate" or whatever the fuck but private servers just felt way better to play and due to the inaccuracies the game felt a lot harder. I hate how much of a walkover everything in Classic is. Fuck those #nochanges autists. Hopefully pservers will be back soon.

>Actually thinks Blizzard wants people playing Classic
>Aiming to wean them off it by offering max level boosts in retail upon achieving 60
The real profit is in the shop that is only available in "retail". Blizzard give no fucks about Classic and if you think otherwise, you are a fool.

The dungeons were always this easy. Thinking the Pre-AQ content was hard is genuine nostalgia goggles.

>Maybe give Paladins back beta crusader strike/holy strike.

This, i just cant believe that they thought it was a good idea with a melee class without attacks.
Holy shit fuck that was a stupid decision.

no they weren't, they only became piss easy with the catch up patches retard (1.12 is the last one)

Remove layering
Remove melee leeway
Remove spell batching

no one said meters themselves are a zoomer concept, so more like who were you quoting

Nah fucking this. The most satisfying thing you can do while playing horde is to randomly find lonely paladins struggling to kill 1 enemy at a time and just chase them down. As a warlock, I just dot them and run around them in circles until they keel over. They know what they're getting into so they only have themselves to blame.

I think that may have been the case before last week. I think the siren call of the massively re-inflated sub numbers is stronger than you suspect. In the age of the subscription for everything, Blizz would be a fool to drop the Holy Grail of microtransactions.

That being said, the store is a wildly profitable venture as you say. Easy way to monetize would be to sell Seasonal tickets or make you pay for a transfer to keep your Seasonal character. There. I ruined my own fun concept. $30 battle pass for seasonal servers of wow classic. Comes with one (1) Seasonal character and a special limited edition cosmetic cloak (can only be used in seasonal gameplay, Collect Them All!).

>warlock dots me
>bubble hearth

Pff, nothin personell horde nigger

you don't get to "fix" the game if you don't play it in the first place, that is all

the only reason im here is because there are still 10k ques

I completely agree with you. The problem though is the long-term. Classic doesn't have any real longevity or scope to control retention, that's another reason why they aim to move players on to the primary focus of their IP, BFA and beyond.

is it true wow tards have to use addons to play their game because the simple boss mechanics and class rotations are too complex for them?

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>warlock dots me
>bubble hearth
>have to do the walk of shame back to where I was doing my quests, praying the horde isn't still there otherwise I'll have to afk in an inn

yea, nothing personal at all

any tips on getting better at hunter? my professions are blacksmithing and mining

my pet at the moment is a nightcrawler cat does my pet matter early game? is there something i could switch to thats better?

>Not running straight at your foe and smiting him with seal of command
sad!

Ritual of summoning is at 20 dipshit.

this is why is chain-sap every paladin i see

You'll have to google it but the best cat pet in the game is some rare spawn in the barrens.
Levelling pets don't really matter though - just pick the one you thinks looks the best and has good enough stats.

It sounds like your idea video game would be one where you press start and it says "You win! ~fin~".

>muh conveniences
>muh balance
Retail is a lesson in how to ruin an mmo rpg.
When you make it too convenient you remove the adventure and any reason for players to give a shit about each other.
When you "balance" the game then all the classes become the same and lose their identity.

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They installed questie didn't they?
You as a player have a choice in where to go and what to do.
If you don't want to run around that much then stick to a nice spot and just KILL STUFF.
But modern gamers have been conditioned to do all the quests no matter what. Gotta follow those arrows right?

I remember a non-geared tank not being able to hold aggro on the Queen in Desolace, whatever that dungeon is called, way back in the day.

Then why was
>judging a class by meters
>zoomers
typed if it was never brought up?

>If you don't want to run around that much then stick to a nice spot and just KILL STUFF.
you mean grind? that's boring as fuck dumbass. mmos moved away from it for a reason. just the same way no one likes "GATHER 30 SCALES" fetch quests, no one likes mindless grinding.

>every single spec in the game has a purpose and won't just get you laughed out of a dungeon/raid/PvP/whatever
I'd also take some kind of dualspec but that's just more wishful thinking

every single class has PvP and PvE specs

Something simple like making balance druids not completely useless would be fun. Also they just need to make more content. Add all the stuff they didn't have time for back in the day, give more raids after naxx

There's not enough FR in the game to clear Sapph in 2 days. You have to farm the mats and make the gear, as a guild, to clear him readily.

The nochanges fags are delusional, when APES clears it they will SEETHE harder than Reetera fags over Ion Fury and shantae's tits and fail once more.

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naxx gear was already retardedly powerful, its like level 70 gear
you cant push it further than that

I'd be happy just seeing the drop percentage on some quest items go up slightly.

you can’t bop someone not in your party in 1.12

Cats have the most dps, just make sure to keep them up to date with skills, mainly those from the pet trainers. Early pets a perfectly fine but will require you to tame similar higher LVL beasts to learn their higher ranked skills. The pet must use said skill a couple of times until it you can learn it yourself to teach it to your primary pet for exemple.

I usually start with 2 gathering professions to focus on getting an extra income then switch to a crafting profession. Blacksmithing is fine but I'd consider engineering for a hunter as well.

Oh and always start with beast mastery spec. You won't depend as much on items to get some decent damage which makes it the best for leveling.

>Theres a button to get off at the next stop for flight masters. It doesnt actually do anything but its there
>blizzards voice chat is there but nobody uses it still
>People are able to log in on tuesday
>There is an open all mail button at the mailbox

>People are able to log in on tuesday
kek

Classic has the most emergent gameplay because the world itself matters more.
Get all the gear in the game? Great, run around the world helping/killing people. Run your buddies through dungeons and shit.
Be the hero, or the evil bastard.
The only thing classic would use is another 10 man like Karazhan.
Outdoor pvp content would be fucking awesome. Fix those towers in plaguelands or something.

lmao you stupid faggots really did think you wanted it, but didn't.

>>People are able to log in on tuesday

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I think after Naxx they should add more content, sort of like an "expansion" of the world: new zones, new races, new items, new dungeons, new raids.
I think, since this game already covers Azeroth, they should introduce a new world: possibly the orcish homeland beyond the dark portal. I also think they should make high elves playable.

I do because it involves finding a nice spot that lets you level your professions. It gives you more freedom and no, I don't grind for hours in the same spot. Find a balance in killing stuff in a good spot and questing.

>say the game is going to be set to 1.12
>people complain when the content is balanced to how it was in 1.12

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Bubble-hearthing is giving in to your stereotype. It's like if Obama started eating watermelon and fried chicken and yelling "MUHFUGGA BIX NOOD"

Completely agree, I am looking forward to Classic being immediately followed by Warlords of Draenor as it is the updated BC.

Some of the spell effects are incorrect, and various particles aren't rendered in the proper angle. A good example is the flames on the braziers for the Dark Portal on the loading screen, they're rendered sideways. Another example is the Imp's firebolt is from a much later build, WotLK or something, the original firebolt was a shitty little ribbon effect with no particles at all.

Respawn rates are based on how quickly mobs are being killed like on retail, rather than a set rate like they were. A lot of "loot item node" quests can be done by multiple people at once as long as they're not in the same party.

The pathing on certain skills, like Charge, isn't the same as it was in Classic. For instance, there was an exploit in Gnomer that let you charge all the way down through the long hallways. This no longer works.

Enemy AI is generally more competent than it was in Classic, as they don't evade nearly as often as they used to.

Smithing is pretty useless for you, Leatherworking will net you better mail armor and Engineering makes all the ranged weapons.

Your best earlygame pet is a Slavering Worg from Shadowfang Keep, 18-19 elite wolf (which means it can have the very useful howl buff) that has the same attack speed as The Rake.

When you get Beast Lore, use it liberally to determine what animals can teach you skills, because beyond just getting a pet to your level, you also have to keep it's abilities up to date, and that requires loyalty levels and taming of other pets in that family. Pet training actually has a fair bit of cool nuance to it when you really get into it.

I unironically like it if they re-made BC with the original idea they had at the time that they were too restrained at the time to do. Things like the original idea for playable demon-hunters and Illidan's story not being absolute garbage.

I dont get it

One again Yea Forums outs itself as casual retards who need everything handed to them. Fuck off and go play retail plebs

I complained then, I complain now. It was a stupid move.

Mind Vision requires line of sight from the caster, meaning it can't be chained anymore.

then we would have gotten everything cut from vanilla with vanilla

Are affliction locks as retardedly OP as they used to be?

I remember slapping three instadots on people in BGs and if they were a class that couldn't heal itself they were as good as dead every time

>how would you fix it
Give me a big titted futa Night Elf to suck while she paizuri's.

>vanilla wow
>hours ling maintenance every tuesday
>always something that held it up even longer

Servers in classic usually took 7-12 hours for maintenance on tuesdays. It was so bad that sometimes Blizzard would give out free days as compensation. Back when the company had a soul.

With the right amount of shadow damage yes. With quest greens and dungeon blues no.

To extrapolate on this, beast skills have a small chance to be learned by the Hunter on every use, it generally only takes 10-20 minutes at most if you turn off every other pet ability and go hit things. You can find a list of all the ranks for every beast skill, and who knows them here:

wow-petopia.com/classic/abilities.php

Every one of these skills costs talent points for your beast, the same ones that are used to buff their armor/resistances, so you don't necessarily want to learn every single one. I, for instance, never saw the point in giving my pets Cower.

No.

I just want end gcame gear for every spec. If i wanted to play enh in PvP i should not have to use blue leathers

And still it somehow manages to be a master piece, lmao.

WE'RE MC RAIDERS

WEE
AIN'T
GOT
NO LII-IIIVES

How to spot a Retail retard and a nigger who quit playing before 1.12

Modes are one of the things that ruined retail and you want them in classic?

>Run WC first time since Vanilla
>Tank looks like he just started playing his first game ever.
>attacks mob and stands perfectly still for the entire duration of the fight. Mobs that run in just go towards our healer. DOesn't pull, always charges.
>Play Mage so constantly have to CC every living thing around me so they won't die, since tank is doing his best impression of a rock
>Lock is starting damage before tank is even near the mobs. After every fight he lifetaps to death and doesn't drink or eat a single time.
>Rogue finds it necessary to sap a mob 50 yards away from the boss during a boss fight.
>Lock leaves
>We somehow do better without him
>Only good one is the healer priest
>Warn him to heal me everytime I go AOE
>He does it like a champ
>Entire dungeon takes almost 2 hours

This truly is the Vanilla experience

Is shadowform okay?

>After every fight he lifetaps to death and doesn't drink or eat a single time.

lol what a fucking whiner you must be. a healer shouldn't have to heal? it's selfish to use an ability that makes the healer have to do his job?

lmao

Not reading the thread but just as a fun what if - just say Classic was fresh start from the same origin, and not intended to be a total remake, what would you add to it from here to make it genuinly better while avoiding the mistakes of what we know can and did happen?

>coop with the same dude for an hour
>lvl 19
>green boots drop
>I get em
>he says grats ;_;
>say nothing, just continue grindan
>he leaves the party
>tell him come on man youre not angry over those low level boots
>he says ''not even a thank you''

fucking game full of autistic kids

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nothing or we will end up with classic2 once they fuck it up

Do you lack basic reading comprehension?

More classes and more races, while removing factions. Double down on the world and things casuals can do.
Basically see what high end raiders want and don't do it.

If Blizzard doesn't take this opportunity to make Classic the canon reboot of the lore then they are making a huge mistake.

The planet is going to die from Sargeras' sword, and that timeline is going to collapse on itself. All that will be left of Azeroth is N'zoth wrapped around the demon's blade, hurtling through space.

Chromie created this new timeline because it is the correct and good timeline. She saw everything go wrong, the death of Ysera, Malygos, Neltharion and Nozdormu.

lad in live WoW if you don't say 'thank you' in the guild if someone says grats (and in turn if you don't say grats when someone gets such achievements as 'shave and a haircut') you can earn a serious talking to and possibly get kicked out

good thing I stay out of those containment clubs

Start at level 1, no changes to classes (fuck you snowflakes), begin at a vanillafied Northrend map (also made to not require flying) and work through there.

>Prot Paladins get a taunt
>Enhancement Shaman get a fully realized tanking spec in the tree
>Ret gets Crusader Strike back
>Arcane Blast - but not arcane charges - added into the game
>damage spell mana costs reduced by 10%

Legitimately all you need to do.

funny, that's what detect invisibility is for

GNOME PALADINS

what is your justification for not saying thanks though?

you're too lazy to type it or something? while playing fucking wow lol

Detect Invisibility =/= Detect Stealth

The Felhound Paranoia buff does increase your stealth detection though.

stealth isn’t invis

invisibility and stealth are two seperate things, detect invisibility can only detect mages using invisibility, people who drank an invisibility potion, and the ghosts outside of UC

Healer himself was pointing out it was incredibly annoying.
You've obviously never healed before in your life

I would go over all of the talent changes made in tbc to existing talents and consider making those changes now if they didn't hurt pvp match ups

It also works on mobs inside Dire Maul and Stratholme. Mages don't have invisibility in Vanilla.

>literally have to beg to be let into QUEST GROUPS as a paladin because "we want a real healer"

Those guys are retarded, Paladins are some of the best heals in the game.

I'm sorry your parents didn't love you hard enough you have to be acknowledged over fucking digital green boots in wow of all games

literally lmao

I've been tempted to ask Warlocks to stop life tapping if he can't heal himself because he may as well be tapping into my mana rather than his own health, but I just stopped healing them instead and figured if they die they'll learn.

I have in fact healed a lot and it's a fucking far cry from "incredibly annoying".

OH NO THE HEALER HAS TO CAST ONE MORE HEAL

HOW RUDE!

>says the guy that creates an easily avoidable situation, hurting his own success in the process, and then proceeds to complain about it on Yea Forums

el my fucking maow buddy

Why aren't there more horde groups running gnomer bros.

yeah you've never healed before

>holy paladin
>haven’t been turned down by a group yet
>tanked half my dungeons so far because consecrate nigga

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>because he may as well be tapping into my mana rather than his own health

which would be true if you healed 1hp per 1mana but we both know that isn't the case you whining little bitch

Does it get better when I hit 20?

>2% of total mana to cast heal on the warlock and move on

yeah totally worth complaining about holy shit how on earth would the healer function with 98% mana when moving on compared to 100%, he totally needs that 2% mana dude, the healer actually drops down to 2% mana on the regular and NEEDS that last 2% to keep the group alive my dude

just reroll a warlock

Riddle me this mageman, did you give the Warlock conjured food/water?

>2% on lvl 20
Dear god man, just stop

I did actually. I always trade the mana users water and food before we start, and food for melee if they want

>level 22
>finish the deadmines after running them a bunch of times to lvl
>want to run SFK
>have to make a trek from ironforge all the way to silverpine forest
>keep getting ganked and destroyed by horde

Is there a trick to this...?

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Then I will support your insistence that he is a lazy dumpster.

How shitty are resto shamans?

If you really want to bypass all the players... swim.

yea, fuck off back to stormwind alliance boy

Unironically add dungeon finder, almost nobody talks in my groups anyway, several people have outright ignored me when I do talk and spamming LFG forever to find a simple 5man run if you're not dungeon cleave meta is just as garbage as I remember it being.

So far not a single dissenting meme Yea Forums came up with before release has turned out to be true, except for this one:

>[Faggot] invite for layer please :)

It is only "better" because it is more of a grind. If you could go through content the same rate as current it would be dead already.

Funny thing is the end game content isn't a grind because it is way easier with 1.12 balancing.

If you are 60 classic is pretty much over and just a waiting room for next phase which will be over even quicker.

No fun to level like any healing spec, but very popular and requested because everyone likes totem buffs, they have the best AoE healing in the game with Chain Heal (there just aren't a ton of raid fights that let you take advantage of it) and a lot of utility with Mana Tide as a groupwide innervate and Grounding/Tremor for PvP and certain PvE fights.

>waiting outside SFK with huge groups of others waiting for rest of the lads to arrive
>bunch of yellow name allies come running in in desperation
>hack and slash and chop them all up as a massive mob like meat being processed through a grinder

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BWL phase will be fast and furious, but AQ... hoo boy. Have fun farming those war effort resources.

>if you finish the vast bulk of the content then the content is pretty much over

No shit retard. At launch most of the game was the 1-60 'grind'.

Do you lack basic writing skills?

I imagine people are already stockpiling war effort resources because we already know what they are.

>ability, profession and quest chat iinks need to work properly
But they do? They work exactly as they are supposed to, in the specific chat channels they are supposed to.

Maybe, but that wasn't the case on Elysium. Then there's also the scepter questline and the Cenarion Circle rep shit that is not optional if you want to be a supreme poopsocker. A lot of content to work through actually.

>make classes other than: Warrior, priest, rogue and mage relevant
>nerf mage to the ground
>maybe add some new challenge content
Done, classic is now perfect.

FUCK HORDE!

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It's more like Blizz knows everybody uses addons so they either make retarded fights that require addons to not pull your hair out in frustration or simpler gear check fights where you just cannot clear without getting some current level epics

heal + renew at lv.20 is like 10% of your mana lol

what the fuck did you just say, white boy?

>autistic kids
>from the sperg who can't even type so much as a 'ty'
You're a golden standard for your own insults.

Damn you got fucking roasted bruh no wonder you stopped posting.

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>walking in a line
>see a beehive up ahead directly in your path
>proceed to trample it because taking two steps to the side is too much effort

>complain when you get stung

I SAID, if you are an orc female, let me fuck the living shit out of you.

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>Maybe give Paladins back beta crusader strike
Ret would be a fucking melee nightmare in pvp with the beta crusader strike, jesus.

In my current leveling gear, with a full bar of mana, I can cast seven (7) heals. That's with mostly int/sta and int/spi gear, arcane intellect, and a wisdom potion. If I have to use flash heal, that's even less.

If the warlock has the decency to eat or bandage after tapping, I'll throw in a renew to top him off. Else he's facetanking the floor on the next pull.

Rag was still a grind to get done but is broken in classic because of 1.12 balancing.

okay... come here, white boy
*grabs you and spins you around fast!*
hah! you really thought I'd let your stick YOUR cock inside of MY green pussy?
*whistles, two male trolls in the walk animation come out of stealth on either side of me*
*drop their pants in sync to reveal enormous troll shlongs that unfurl and slap against the floor*
heh... I hope you can take this, white boy... for the alliance, right?

Wow, you sound like you do this a lot. How about we head over to DMs? ;)

>he isn't leveling a warrior
>posts all day in LFG begging for group
>"LF1M tank Taint Scrape Lagoon"
You knew that there wouldn't be enough tanks when you rolled whatever worthless DPS class you chose. Why didn't you roll a warrior? Me and my priest instantly get groups. We roll into groups of equal level mobs and cleave/sweeping strikes them into the ground with a single renew lazily topping me off. We slaughter everyone in PVP except good hunters, but these don't exist. You had one shot and you blew it. What do you have to say for yourself?

No idea how to tank. Certainly won't be able to tank a raid. I could perhaps heal, if I can find a whack-a-mole type healing add on, but I don't want to level in a healing spec.

Wow for an mmo that is not that many people in an area

Heal is like 2:1 hp to mana, renew is like 1.8

life tap is 1:1

Level in shadow, respec to healing around 45 later on, use clique

>you will never get the Grundlecleaver from Taint Scrape Lagoon
it hurts bros

stay mad zoomer

Pets are immune to boss abilities like cleave, whirlwind, aoe and will not be targeted by special mechanics like the bomb at geddon or vael. That is all, doesn't affect pvp and hunters need a pve dps boost anyway.

>Party gets stuck in combat near end of BFD
>Have to run out
#nochanges

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When healers come heal a dungeon while you're levelling up, are they just shadow priests and retri paladins and elemental shamans using their healing spells? Do they get to roll on their DPS gear?

>want to heal
>leveling guides tell me to go Shadow Priest to level
Will I still be able to heal dungeons?

Usually, and yes.

Saphh doesn't need FR gear anyway retard.

how about make it fun?

Defensive stance, sunder/heroic+tab, and maybe demotivating shout for minor damage reduction/threat. Don't charge in headfirst like a retard unless you know you can take it. Glance at your healer's mana pool to know if you're gonna be immediately slapping again. You can tank as any spec for 5-mans as long as you bring a sword and board. Protection is fucking invincible, fury has rage out the ass to spew sunders, arms can stance-dance. Raid tanking is also fairly braindead, it's a role-reversal for tank and healer brain capacity.

You either thug it out and shadow priest to 50 or drop it to heal/bubble applied for dungeons

remove 10 raid dungeons except for L/UBRS, reduce reputation gained in AV so normies cant get a free epic mount, stealth nerf reduce hit chance/spell resist by 1% to fuck with minmaxers

I rolled a druid.

Already tanked most of my dungeons.

Literally fucking missing the point of classic

Spotted the carried healer.

>I AM A HUGE FAGGOT PLEASE RAPE ME WITH YOUR FROST AURA

>reduce reputation gained in AV
AV isn't in yet, though. It's not gonna be in for a long time. Who cares at that point?

Bros I don’t care if there’s no end game content, when I hit 60, first thing is that I’m making my presence known to the world and going to valley of trials and giving some player 2 silver so they look at me as a god. Then I’m going to duskwood and ganking every and any ally player I see knowing that they can’t do SHIT to me. I’ll fucking get off knowing that I am KEKING alliance players from playing the game simply because they chose the wrong side. They are going to need to re enact the fucking South Park WoW episode to take me down and by then, I’ll be satisfied with my alliance bloodshed and they will be satisfied with taking me down.

It’s a win win for both sides

Never Heroic Strike unless you cap rage as any Heroic Strike Swing generates no rage.
Only Thunderclap if there are more than 3 targets. If you don't do a lot of dungeons, don't even bother learning it.
Sweeping Strikes is your friend.
Demo Shout is your best friend.
Shield Block always.
Stance Dance macros are good and let you use abilities you normally wouldn't even consider.
Prot talents suck. Go balls deep in Arms/Fury and only respec for raids when your aggro is sufficient.

I made the mistake of going holy for the first 15 levels, I got tired of shit quest damage so I gave my 1 gold shilling and respecced to shadow. I heal as a shadow now.

Doesn't do enough damage to justify removing most of your damage stats.

heal as shadow, no one notices

This is correct advice. Sweeping strikes is great for aggro. Charge in, bloodrage, pop it and drop to defensive stance, and I tank two mobs like it was retail. I don't even bother marking shit if it's less than three mobs in a pull.

Heroic Strike is your best threat move and you get plenty of rage from receiving damage while you tank so don't listen to that.

Thunder Clap gives a valuable debuff especially combined with Demo Shout so don't listen to that.

Sweeping Strikes is an Arms talent. Don't level as Arms unless you really REALLY want to PvP a lot.

Demo Shout is piteous aggro but you do want to keep the debuff up.

600 a tick to 40 people is a lot of healing needed. And you will almost certainly get caught in the Blizzards if they spawn on you and they will kill you.

What's the best speed leveling guide?

Goddamn wowtards actually defend being pissed in a game because someone didn't thank you

LOL
O
L

^ millennial

Literally not an issue when you kill him fast enough.

Jesus Christ how can a single person be so fucking wrong.
Again, Heroic Strike ACTIVELY REDUCES YOUR RAGE GAIN. It's a dump to prevent capping, everything else is shooting yourself in the foot unless you are lvl fucking 15, at which point nobody cares anyways.

Thunder Clap debuff increases swing timer by 10%, pitiable amount. Damage requires large groups to be worth it and the rage cost to maintain the buff is massive. You have better AoE skills at your disposal. Thunder Clap while levelling is a trap for scrubs.

>Don't level as Arms unless you really REALLY want to PvP a lot.
The wrongest, stupidest fucking thing in this entire thread. Yeah, sure, why would anyone want Anger Management, Sweeping Strikes and Mortal Strike, I just can't figure it out. Yeah, sure, I'd love to NOT use intercept, Pummel or shield bash while cleaving down the entire pull with massive damage and setting up dots.
Fucking moron. Tank levelling isn't about survivability, it's about aggro and control.

>Demo Shout is piteous aggro
Demo spam does more aggro than Thunder Clap spam. Objectively.

Go play retail you gigantic flaming fruit.

>ty

Literally two fucking letters to not sound like an emotionless sperg.

Actual millenials are older than you dumb shit
also not an argument

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Not surprised WoW is full of unstable emotionals

I'm 32 buddy lol

>How would you fix it?
make it BC instead of vanilla

Blizzard had the chance to make lightning strike twice by improving upon classic and adding things like bank sizes, dungeon maps, minor tweaks and balance, higher debuff limits on NPC, and so on and so on.
Instead they added sharding, making the game objectively worse since it not only fragmented the servers, but also STILL had people in fucking line to talk to quest-givers, and for mobs, the very thing sharding was made to prevent.

They had a perfectly good bed that could use a change of sheets, and they just shit in it instead.

I'm 30 and fail to see why, at 32, you would even give a shit about ''ty''. My mind is blown

I fail to see how anyone period could be upset by being expected to type "ty"

I hear you on the Arms thing. I tank instances as Arms and it's awesome. I am still mad that Blizzard nerfed tactical sitting, though. If I could enrage on command by sitting, I'd be fury until 40 for sure. Oh well, saves me a gold to respec or whatever the cost is.

Blizzard could add more armor sets that benefit the lesser specs and items that don't make some classes redundant later.

Nah, you're not 32. Fuck off

I dunno he seems pretty good at getting rage judging from your reaction

t. fags who didn't read
His point was that, despite BFA being a more balanced experience for both devs and players, it's a much shittier game. It is objectively more balanced than Classic, questing can be done at almost any level - meaning you're not forced into areas. Classes are viable, no matter their spec: you can actually use hybrid classes as, well, hybrids. You're not stuck into being a buffslut as a paladin, you can actually tank or deal damage. Quests don't end abruptly, nor do they take a lot of effort to complete for minimal reward. Leveling is easy and fast, and there's just enough grind to keep you engaged, but not enough to make you bored of the game. After all, it's been in development for nearly 15 years - if they couldn't at least balance their classes and make their leveling more efficient (two major points that people like to harp on about), then they'd all be out of a job.

Classic is everything but that. And it's a much better game.

tl;dr: Just because something is objectively better on a (logical) design and systems standpoint doesn't mean it's a better game.

yeah well you peed the bed last night PWNT SON smoked you like a bong nuggah

take out the report function so hurt feelings faggots cant ban me every day

World of Warcraft, more like World of Magecraft.

I'm not sure why people roll meme classes like Mage. I hope they are ready to cast Frostbolt over and over and over until AQ, if they even make it that far.

>tfw APES and there shenaniganery will be all people post about
>tourists and idiots will always spout the non-sense while completely passing over the fact they are Alliance

It's like everyone forgets there's an easy mode and a hard mode for early raids that eventually reverse in the late T2 and AQ / Naxx areas when Horde scaling hits it's stride.

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Shit, quoted wrong post. Meant for
and

This.

> i ganked 5 all hordes on the camp and they all just /spit on me and try tu run away

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Because if you don't roll mage warrior or priest you are useless. Mage is by far the most powerful class in the game.

all DPS classes are 1-2 buttons in pve mate

>Hit's it's stride
>Fear ward becomes even more mandatory.

Any RP fags here? grats, ty, haha! ;_;

>you can actually use hybrid classes as, well, hybrids
No, you can't. Every spec is its own class now, and legion in particular drove the point home.

I like feeling useful and desired. More groups ask for mages and warlocks than hunters or rogues by far.

>Removing factions
sigh alliance cucks.

Sorry, I was a bit unclear on that. I realized that after posting and rereading, which is also how I found my mistake with the post replies.

I meant that each spec for each class was viable. Hybrids are viable now, as they can actually tank, or heal, or dps depending on what they want to do. They can only do one at one time, of course, but they can swap their specs around at any point within a rested area (meaning that, if they wanted to, they can swap from being a tank into a healer if that suits their fancy).

That's what I meant by how they're now "hybrids". They can do any role they want, even if they do need to change their specs. They aren't pidgeonholed into a single role.

>damage spell mana costs reduced by 10%

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I actually really enjoyed healing dungeons as resto druid on retail while I was screwing around waiting for classic to release. Put up hots, go into cat form and do sick resto DPS until the hots ran out. It was a fun game balancing between keeping the group alive and healing. If I got a good tank, I could spend most of the instance in cat form.

>You can kill 4 mobs before drinking instead of 3!
>Hashtag NotMyClassic!!!

Of all of the changes he cited, thats what you're mad about?

>playing alliance

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horde is the new alliance. look at those edgy characters, bro! epic

Yes, if someboy tells you that there's something wrong about leveling as a shadow priest or that you are the fault that they don't get trough the dungeon (unless you are fucking terrible) tell them they are a fucking retard.

>Playing horde
what a cuck i bet u use HRTs and voted for hillary

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because 15 years later is still boring even on retail

hell, dont even tell em. I was dumb enough to try to join a dungeon group as shadow, no reply. Advertised as healer, instant invite.

Fucking mages are already the best pvp, pve and leveling class who have a fast travel, fast travel they can make people pay for and a fucking water generator. So fuck you, I wan't 10% MORE mana cost for EVERYBODY so FUCK YOU

Weird I love taking shadow priests and other “meme builds” to dps for me, usually make for the best runs because of all the utility and still decent damage

Not the guy you're replying to but you're an autistic faggot who's most certainly annoying to play videogames with if you get bent out of shape over someone not saying "grats" in an MMO. Especially over a fucking green item drop lmao

>mage best pvp
>dies to a retarded hunter or a warlock who drops a few dots and then actually fights someone else
lol?

>remove the mmorpg part of the game
you sure you dont want to play god of war 4?

When your leveling people don't understand that the content is so easy that you don't even need a priest to heal or a warrior to tank, that's what you should remember.

>dies to a Warlock's pet
>best pvp class
lmao

???
???

Is this Alliance logic?

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>Not him
>but I will act exactly like him and insult you out of the blue for no reason.

I don't get bent out of shape, I just find it rude.

you could have put more effort in your reply

>Mage dies to a pet
>This is my argument
Nice strawman

faster flying taxis, otherwise I'll l live

Why?
There's nothing to answer to?
There's no arguments, no logic, only Alliance being best at being worst.

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t. seething mage getting dabbed on by warlock chads

that's not cool user

The horde has been completely fucked up by there being only two factions.

Have you ever done a world boss in ffxiv? Obviously not since you would know that the combat in ffxiv breaks down past 30 players to where the boss literally cant even hurt some people and players phase in and out of existence. ffxiv isnt an mmo in the slightest sense of the word, its a single player rpg with some co-op boss fights

I'm silenced in classic until Oct.6th so it's nearly impossible to get any group content going. Hold me boys.

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Sorry, I don't play OP noskill classes like mage and warlock except when I wan't to win so probably next character.

took two hours to get embers to drop in stone talon. fuk that

Hope you learned your lesson retard

Lmao you should have known my friend, I instantly got notification from friends that, hey, this quest is fucking terrible and don't do it, so that made me happy.

Lmao what did you say?

>Warlock
>no skill

lmao get good shitter

I asked general if there were any niggers on my server

you deserve it aspie

What's a mature language filter for if people are gonna turn it off and get triggered over a word on the internet. Not a real classic experience

>Fear
>Win
Lol so much skill lmao

>not a real classic experience
ur right

>When you "balance" the game then all the classes become the same and lose their identity.
You say this as if this is the outcome of any form of balancing. It was right for numerous years. It's just a lot of work. And since WoW's being run by a skeleton crew for the last couple of years, they just gave up on balancing. Class homogenization is the result.
So no, because this happened after years of balancing doesnt mean classes lose their identity because of balancing. It happened because they STOPPED balancing.

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>edgy
Imagine rolling Alliance.

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Are there still queues? They've been keeping me away.
I'm Eastern European if that matters.

>want to run sfk
but why though

lol

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yeah, he's the one who's autistic.

You're a nigger, user.
Don't let anybody convince you otherwise!

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The quality of life improvements could use a backport.

HDify the graphics, multispec, I dont see the issue with opening up some of the class options that came about later, sooner. Like troll druid for insntence, maybe a feast for cooking (idk if that was even a thing in vanilla.)

I will play it for its life cycle simply because of the talent tree, it gave the game so much heart compared to whatever the fuck they did.

As mage I literally never have run out to and wait at that stupid zeppelin ever again.

Ulduar hard modes were one of the best mechanics in the game period, you retarded Legion zoomer.

Arena shitters will ruin this game again, I swear

non-issue

>always be tankfag
>pick warrior because it's apparently the only viable class for tanking
>leveling is pure suffering, need to eat after every other pull, and half your attacks miss or do reduced damage
I'm not gonna make it

Yup.

>don't mind the shitty leveling much
>hate tanking

there's no arena to speak of

Bear druids can tank, pally tanks are the ones with the most struggles

I'd add in 2.0 talents after Naxx is released so there's more fun to the game

The tbc pre patch was a shit show, screw that

Yup and when there is they are gonna cry and whine about balance, balance isn't fun, having roles to fulfill is fun.

we're talking years away, stop tripping

I feel you bro, let me add this
>everybody is pulling shit in dungeons
>nobody attacks/ sheeps marks
>nigger classes roll on your shit constantly
>everybody is unfriendly

you get banned for saying absolutely nothing. im silenced right now and my friend is silenced. when he appealed it the examples they used for him being banned was some about wrecking someone's ass and he said fuck.

No, I will never be not mad
Go play retail, it's fucking hell
And I watched, slowly, as it was tortured to death
My loved one

Fuck you all

fuck you. hurt feelings nigger.

I agree, these bring the player not the class kids were playing the wrong genre

Why is everyone so fucking mean? I played on Nost and Lights hope and everyone there was friendly and helpful. On official classic servers everyone is mean and passive aggressive/outright hostile in both questing groups and dungeon groups.

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>HARDCORE GAYMING!!! TIME FOR THE RETURN OF TRUE WOW! RETAIL ZOOMERS ON SUICIDE WATCH, THEY CAN'T HANDLE A REAL MMORPG!!!
>W-wait... this is too hard... Blizzard, hellllpppp...

modern wow players are used to people knowing how to play the game and never having to interact with people in game.

What's your class? As a warrior, everyone is extremely friendly and lines up to suck my cock.

You tell them all of it straight and they will back off.
Bunch of sheep.
Also, you are playing Alliance, I assume?
Darn. Can't fix that.

the publicity and simplicity of classic wow attracted a different kind of audience as opposed to the quiet and low-key private servers that had to fly under the radar. classic players are here because it's big and popular, private realm players are there because they want to be

What the fuck? Are you telling me more than one person can have an opinion?

>only now realizing WoW had the most toxic/shittiest playerbase of any MMO
It’s only gotten worse since 2003, but the community was always mean.

I play warrior and i have yet to get my dick sucked, everyone is an ass

I've only grouped with people that invite me first because I'm a shy retard but everyone so far has been polite. I always stick around to help them finish their quest and they almost always do the same for me.

>questing in westfall killing murlocks for ghost guy
>see another rogue killing the same mob and invite him to my group
>declines invite
>whisper him askin if he wants to team up to work on the quest together
>no response
>send him another whisper
>this player is ignoring you

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Fucking anything. Small lore stores. Caracter building. More deeper lore to existing characters like Sylvanas, Lorthemar, Bane. Fucking Gromash or Zul'jin. What exactly is a shadow Hunter?

>just want to run armory a couple of times for herod's stuff
>all of the zoomers want muh aoe groups
This isn't the comfy experience I was promised.

Well you won because you didn't have to play with a retar... hey, you don't happen to play a druid?

Get shield spikes.
Infinite block infinite damage and ret aura
Everyone kills themselves on you shield

lol ive seen the opposite happen
Helps that most people on my realm speak the same language and i can see what they type

Holy pally

As a hunter I just instantly assume the invite is from someone who has shit kill times.

What class?

>Alliance
Oh ok well no wonder, Alliance really lacks in bromance.

Debating switching over to horde to level an undead mage

>mage
>thinkign bout them lib groups and all that gear

>killed all the major villains
Then why not build on this. What is an old god are they immortal did we really kill them all?

lol staysafetv wiped 10 times last night and quit. these pro retail raiders are getting anally fucked by classic raid design

I didn’t say pally tanks aren’t unplayable, but yeah the thorns damage is great. It doesn’t help their mana issues though

hunter pets have BFA behavior

where should i aoe grind at 30? horde

>Arcane crystals and black lotus worthless
>Non-issue