When did you realize CD Projekt are hacks that do nothing but rip off Rockstar's gameplay formula using licensed IPs

When did you realize CD Projekt are hacks that do nothing but rip off Rockstar's gameplay formula using licensed IPs

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with every new announcement they make, things just keep getting worse

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I was gonna buy it at first, but it's just fucking shit now. CD projekt red can suck my bit sweaty NUTS.

shit i didn't know rockstar invented open world and multiplayer
also cyberpunk is a fps rpg game so fuck off retard

>rpg
not anymore

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you can shove your twitter screenshots up your ass

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Everything has fucking RPG elements nowadays. Including GTA.

They said in the latest video that its a full-blown RPG. What faggot keeps making these posts?

>proving the point

>zoomer mind can't read more than one sentence at a time

cope harder, CDrone

:^)

It's not just the graphics that are getting downgraded now

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whoops

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oh no they are downgrading the twitter bios!!

>yfw sunfags were right all along

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this is pre tw3 on repeat again
Yea Forums is stuck in same motions since 2012

I don't care about they're games, but it would be tragedy if we lost GOG

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Weird to see Yea Forums go from super hyped about this to hating it just because other people got excited about it too

You guys are just hipster plebs

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Where's the shazam poster when you need him?

>believing cdp
>after shitter 3
You only have yourself to blame in the end.

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it's just a small vocal group of contrarians just ignore them, I'm really hyped

Why the fuck would I want multiplayer? Then everything will have to be balanced and shit, but half the fun of a cyberpunk setting is becoming OP.

Wow 3 classes

I've hated CDPR since Witcher 2

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probably couldn't focus to read the remainder of the text past the first sentence due to his ADHD

Will it have casinos and currency cards bought with real money? Whales are going to love it

>mfw can't pirate it

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Rockstar monetizes their games because they're greedy faggots. Project red doesn't. Rockstar uses clunky out dated game design anyway. It's time for a change.

user.... i...

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Wasn't this known since one of the early teasers

What the fuck is happening

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Yeah you can, you just won't be able to play online.

At least it shines a light on the Cyberpunk genre
I still want my Nu-Prey-2

>What the fuck is happening
shitposting

They are not classes, just a backround for your character like Shepard in ME1

People are desperate for clicks and will publish articles about absolutely anything pertaining to this hyped gamed, because it gets clicks
And Yea Forums is just desperate to be outraged by absolutely anything

>game looks like CoD in sunny LA
>tranny and SJW pandering
>firing employees for "offensive" jokes
>no flying cars
>third person cutscenes removed
>graphics downgraded
>shoehorned in multiplayer
it just keeps getting worse, no surprise that everyone is disappointed

>And Yea Forums is just desperate to be outraged by absolutely anything
Better to be outraged at shitty games than being outraged at the sight of a boob like Trannyera

>everyone is disappointed
in your dreams

Brainlet.
>hyped
Yikes.

>few days ago I posted how CDPR wanted to add MP to CP 2077, this was based on public documents released by polish government
>faggotboys denied it and screamed
>mfw
Suck faggots.

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>They are already turning into Bioware

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and a copes yikes wojak with no brains to you too good sir

they literally hired ex ass effect andromeda devs so it's not surprising

>third person cutscenes removed
Since when?
>shoehorned in multiplayer
The multiplayer isn't even going to be part of the game at launch, its part of post release content, hardly shoehorned

I don't think he has enough disk space for 100 gb game.

Hopefully pirate lords will come up with a and compress the bloated textures.

Sound investment

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That's even more evidence it's shoehorned. It's being put in as an afterthought to draw in normies that only buy multiplayer games, but it doesn't really fit with the overall game design so they're waiting until the end to tack it on like a nonessential tumor.

>being excited for a Mass Effect/GTA hybrid

>Tabletop had 9
>here are 3
"full fledged"
yeah maybe by fallout 4 standards

>multiplayer
>taking away resources and time to make at least a decent singleplayer experience in order to add online multiplayer shit
I'll pirate this no matter how bad it gets, but now there's no way I'm buying this shit
How can they claim this is an immersive ARPG if it has multiplayer shit?

>being not

Then how the fuck are we suppose to argue with you people? You say "x", we show you an official CD Projeckt announcement that say "x" isn't true and you just say you don't believe it. Theres just no winning with your people. It must be so comfortable living in a bubble where you are always right, everyone else is always wrong and CD Projekt is always lying, isn't? God, I can't wait until 2020 comes along, this game will make you people will eat your words to the point the whole BOTW hysteria will look like a joke.

b-but it will be post release content!

>tabletop is easier to make
holy smokes!

This entire project should be considered cured and abandoned

>doesnt fit with the game design
You dont know how it will be implemented or even entirely how the game plays you dumbfuck

These threads are fascinating to read seriously
A bunch of people getting extremely, irrationally angry because "maybe" a video game won't be as good as they hoped it would be, and the evidence for that fact is non-existent so you just point to anything and say that its proof

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>VattierCD PROJEKT RED#9
Jun 11, 2019
Cyberpunk 2077 will be a true RPG. There will be choices and consequences, character development, dialogues and many other features that define the genre. Don't worry! :)

Subhuman Yea Forumsermin degenerates throwing a bitch fit. Last time that happened was when Sekiro exposed this board.

b-but no flying cars

>Nothing can be called proof or evidence unless I say so
I see the shill defense force is rolling in nice and strong now that Red has sold out

Seething

multiplayer is garbage

Even fucking Fallout 4 had flying vehicles.

You guys are saying that the inclusion of trans characters, and that there is sunlight in the game is proof that the game is bad
thats very irrational

I know, right? I wonder what they will do when it is selling great

If they're copying gta why isn't it FUCKING third person then?

*Sips drink*

>it doesn't have to be at night
>it doesn't have to be in a large city
>it doesn't need to be 3rd person
>it doesn't need to have the different classes
>it doesn't need the player to be able to use flying cars
>It doesn't need accessible interiors for buildings
>It doesn't need to be free of liberal bullshit
>It doesn't need to have good customisation options
>it doesn't need to have real dialogue choices
>it doesn't need you to be able to join different factions
>it doesn't need to have killable NPCs
>it doesn't need to have Trauma Team as a gameplay element the player can use
>it doesn't need to have destructible environments
>it doesn't need to have good graphics
>it doesn't matter that CD Projekt Red is staffed by Americans now
>it doesn't need mod support
>it doesn't need to have good box art
>It doesnt need to not blow all its budget on b list actors
>it doesnt need to be an RPG
>it doesn't need you to be able to purchase new apartments
>it doesn't need you to be able to choose different childhood heroes
>it doesn't need you to be able to customise your cars or apartment
>it doesn't need Cyberpsychosis to be part of the game
>it doesn't matter that it's cinematic garbage
>it doesn't need to not be downgraded
>it doesn't need to not be GTA 2077
>it doesn't need to be single-player only
WE ARE NOW HERE
>it doesn't need dynamic weather systems
>it doesn't need to have a branching story
>it doesn't need to have massive crowds of people
>it doesn't need to have substance

BLUNDERPUNK 2077

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Chopping off your penis is never rational.

>3 classes
he doesn't know

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>>rpg
>not anymore

How are you supposed to add a gorillion different types of roleplay into a video game? PnP makes it completely possible, but with current technology that we can use to play vidya? No, not possible, unless we had powerful Super PCs, and even then, it's just a few zetabytes worth of data.

perhaps because
they're not copying gta?

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because it's a lot easier to make a 1st person game and cd projekt are hacks

>there is multiplayer
>copying gta
what the fuck are you on about?

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whats with that hate campaign against cyberpunk ran by some autists spreading misinformation and intentional misinterpretation? why so hurt?

Game keeps getting better and better.

>mfw that CDPR are the doing the right thing and making it an optional extra long after launch so the base game doesn't suffer from split workload
>mfw imagining the possibilities of a cyberpunk FPS multiplayer
>mfw the bitch tears Yea Forums sheds on an hourly basis over CP2077

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>fpp only
its D00M

They're angry that "normies" are excited for the game
So they desperately want the game to be bad so they can laugh at the "normies" for enjoying something that is bad, allowing them to feel superior
When in actual fact the game is fun and they're just seething

Meanwhile some Russians working for vodka rations code almost the entirety of Pathfinder rules into a 100 hours long game with actual choices and consequences.

co-op missions where you blast trough night city with a partner

what's with all the bitching? it'll be deus ex but better, what's the problem?

You
1. don't know shit about game design, that's obvious
2. don't know how they're going to implement it

you're just making shit up, i'd rather they put all their time and effort in to making a polished single player experience, THEN work on multiplayer, rather than take time away from making the singleplayer to shoehorn in multiplayer. you're retarded, this is the best way for us to get multiplayer - and if it's shit, you don't need to play it.

>hurr "removing" features bad
>durr adding features bad
Yea Forumsermins, everyone

There is a lot of potential for MP in Cyberpunk.

As you said, co-op but much more

>Souls type invasion mechanic where the invading player is an assassin being sent after you
>Regular DM and TDM but with all the weapons and augmentations
>"Spies vs Mercs" style mode of one team heavily geared up with weapons, implants etc. against maybe a full natural team
>L4D style type of normal people fighting heavily augmented players where the naturals must reach a goal and the augmentated people have different classes such as tank types, hackers to lock doors, block passageways, use the cameras to see where the enemies are
>In-game cybercafe that you visit to unlock MP games

Its got potential.

So no meaningful singleplayer dlc?

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AC style hide and seek mission where you first select augs to help you evade the assassin, but the more you get the more obviously different from npcs you look like.

>multiplayer will arrive once all single-player content is cut out
Not even pirating this garbage

>Races around Night City
>Cyberspace races
>Cyberspace hacking races

>Hacking the world to catch the host player

I'm getting excited now. Even if it is just standard modes it will still be fun because of the nature of weapon upgrades and augmentations.

Classes are actually gone now. It's a free form system.

R6 style house invasion where people have to select different classes and augs to get trough obstacles and heal up team mates and tank damage.

CD Projekt Red was always a mediocre studio. Witcher 3 was lightning in a bottle for them. Also the underdog Polish studio that everyone likes to masturbate about how cool and under appreciated they are is now AAA studio who pull the usual shit like questionable development decisions and bowing down to a bunch of outspoken trannies on the internet.

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>debate me - you will lose
since when is Crowder Posting a thing

Nobody, NOBODY, asked for multiplayer, but retarded normalfags and kids who shouldn't even be playing this game. What fucking kind of nonsense is this?

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CDPR wants to be Rockstar Games of RPGs.

>multiplayer AFTER ALL SINGLEPLAYER CONTENT IS COMPLETE
>still mad
anyone have a good reason for this?

Its some russian who has been hired to shit on cdpr.

Would be cool if the multiplayer is framed as different gangs fighting each other
Then I can have fun as a Voodoo boy

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>but retarded normalfags and kids
So, like 99% of the people who play videogames?

>Rockstar invented open world games
>Grand Theft Auto is even remotely original

Have you literally never played a game from before 2001?

Are you fucking brain dead? DO you have no concept of fucking development time and spending? Some of this game budget went towards hiring Keanue Reaves, causing the devs to change the game genre and gimp features already for these past months. Money going towards a retarded online multiplayer instead of improving the main game is plain fucking stupid.

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OH NO NO NO NO

>When did you realize CD Projekt are hacks
After the Witcher 3. prologue.

CHANGE. MY. MIND.

or your family dies!

LOUDER WITH CHOWDER.

>Hiring Keanu Reeves changed the games entire genre and design
>Implying the budget for multiplayer won't include money from sales since its post launch content

You must be so retarded that you forget to breathe

not really? it's only after the single player content is complete, during the time in which they develop this single player content, they'll be releasing updates that "fix" whatever it is that will be "broken" - then multiplayer will be developed. that's what after the single player content means, unless you think they aren't going to release updates at all, which no game in the past 15 years has done.

multiplayer will be developed post-release, meaning they'll have more budget from that, including any DLC they release along with any potential micro transactions. what are you even saying?

Learn your genre retard

>They said

No that Digital Scapes who specialize in multiplayer they hired should've been told to work on narrative driven single player portion instead.

What?

>Keanu Reeves
When did people start liking him so much? i remember when he was a joke actor.

Shut up you fucking jew. You are fucking cancer, point blank!

By focusing on developing them instead of creating pretty cutscenes?

>there is sunlight in the game
man, I guess if I keep repeating this retarded strawman it might come true

He was sorta likable and then he was in a hit movie and people went "this movie I like has a protag who is also nice irl, isnt that amazing?"

So GTA SA is an RPG?

Next time don't throw out some retarded estimate without understanding what normalfags and kids actually play and what they play doesn't take 99% of the market

for

Probably because people ask for more meaty plot and progression.

Are you implying that 'normalfags' and kids don't play rpgs?

>makes a lofty ambitious promises
>every subsequent announcement is about how they cant exactly deliver these promises
What a surprise

What promises have not been fulfilled?

See

Yeah man they're totally in the red, this 150 million dollar game needs to sell well or else everything is over!

But everything he mentions isn't a promise, or is in the game

Can you kindly add >It doesn't need to not have cars from 80s
Thanks

god she is so fucking hot

I remember first reading about Cyberpunk 2077 in some magazine maybe in 2013. I think it's pretty obvious since then, that the scope of the game has changed.
I just CDPR did a better job at communicating that.

>cdprojektred trying to cash in on gta online's games as a service bullshit

user it always was a more free form system, the classes in the tabletop just were your background and usually related to your associates

>mfw was going to type up post debating this but then remembered it was a retard with a dumb copypasta in the nick of time

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When Witcher 3 got massively downgraded and the developers denied it.

There was no denial

masterherald.com/cd-projekt-red-denies-downgrading-graphics-in-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/1515/

they're a company that makes money, it's only inevitable this would happen, all that goodwill they were cultivating was for something, and it was probably this.

Right? The game was optimized to run well.
Do you want it to run at 15fps like Unity or what?

They still denied downgrading the game, and only consoles would have and to deal with this FPS issue. Cope more, drone.

user....

Low end pcs dont exist?
Every game gets optimized
Why cry about something that is natural part of every games dev cycle?

You're still trying to argue against the fact that they denied downgrading the game when there is proof that they downgraded it and there are articles talking about, and showing, CDPR denying downgrades. Nice job trying to move the goalpost, you retarded drone.

So downgrading and optimizing are the same thing?

Right there was no downgrade.
There was natural optimization effort that some people mistakenly refer to as downgrading due to crobcat.

Oh no... They're copying something that was successful. Stop the presses. Quit watering your diapers.

>Map is a tad smaller then Witcher 3 but very dense
>Gtav is 4 times smaller then Witcher 3s map

If they make gta like online it'll fit right in

>I wasn't a downgrade, I swear!
>it's just optimization!
The absolute state of CDPR cock suckers. By this dumbfuuck logic the concept of a downgrade doesn't exist, but I doubt you idiots would say that about an Ubisoft game or an EA game. The funniest part is now you're blaming some random youtube channel for somehow construing what downgrades are
>but muh low end PC's!
Can lower the settings to get better performance. This is only an issue with consoles and you know it. CDPR downgraded the game, then denied it. You cannot logically argue against this.

Big Yikies am I right fellas?

Can you explain how optimization differs from downgrade then?
>view distance lowers fps, lets lower view distance for performance
Is that downgrading a game?

What is the alternative to optimization, not release on consoles and subsequently not make enough money to justify making the game in the first place?

What exactly do you want?

The only thing I realized is that most of Yea Forums has brain damage.

You can properly optimize a game and actually keep the graphics the same, or improve them. Look at Doom 2016 for instance. Downgrading a game to optimize it is the lazy mans method of "optimization". Optimization just means you make the game run better, it doesn't mean you have to downgrade it at the same time.

You can stop trying to argue against CDPR lying any day now, it makes you look stupid.

>a corridor shooter with 12h campaign that is still less visually impressive than w3 that is vast
aha.
Im sure if you asked cdpr whether the game had been optimized the question was so obvious that it didnt even need an answer.

>a game needs to get downgraded to be optimized
Even Unity, the game you brought up to try to prove a point, got optimized at a later date without actually downgrading the graphics. Not drastically anyway. You are actually a corporate cocksucker, holy shit. You aren't even trying to deny the downgrade anymore, you're just trying to downplay and trivialize it by saying "it wasn't really a downgrade, they had to do it to optimize the game!" when Downgrades and optimization isn't mutually exclusive. Even AssCreed Syndicate had the same optimization without downgrades. How much polish dick do you suck on a daily basis?

Unity should've been optimized prior to launch so the top of the line gpu from 2 years before wasnt the minimum requirement. Ubisofts decision to not downgrade/optimize resulted in awful experience for most pc gamers.
Is that what you're asking, completely garbage unplayable games?

>haha rebuke me
>99% of his counterargument are just restating the Shazam poster post with "I don't know" and "you don't need to do that"

CDPR have finally gone from honest potato farmers to soulless corporate husks. They could have made something special here but instead they went for a straight up GTA clone simply because it's the most profitable game ever made. Fuck them.

Ubisoft still optimized the game without downgrading the graphics. I know this seems a bit difficult for a drone like yourself to understand. Even Batman Arkham Knight had this, the developers didn't gut the game, they just fixed issues with the code to make it run better Only shit devs like CDPR downgrade graphics to increase performance. The funny part is that they still denied the downgrade, and you keep trying to argue against this for some reason.

That magic "fixing code to make it run more efficiently without impacting the visual quality" is nonsense that only exist within your mind.
There are ways to optimize poorly designed areas and reducing polygons that are hidden, but when you aim for a performance benchmark like 60 fps at certain gpu/cpu you're not able to avoid visual degradation.
>Only shit devs like CDPR downgrade graphics to increase performance
Literally every game gets optimized to increase performance. Its just inescapable fact of game development.

>That magic "fixing code to make it run more efficiently without impacting the visual quality" is nonsense that only exist within your mind.
Assassin's Creed Unity
Assassin's Creed Origins
Batman Arkham Knight
Far Cry 5
Doom
Every single one of these games did not sacrifice graphical fidelity for performance, the developers just increased the performance with proper code fixing. You can keep coping all day long and denying fact like the drone you are, but it isn't going to actually change those facts. You want proof? you can easily just look it up yourself, but i doubt you're going to do that because it doesn't fit your narrative that the only way to make games run better its to make them look like shit like CDPR does because they suck at making games.
>Literally every game gets optimized to increase performance. Its just inescapable fact of game development.
Yes, but not every game gets downgraded as a result, this is just something you're trying to tell yourself because you can't cope with the fact that CDPR are shitty coders that openly lie about their games.

Why did you list a bunch of games that got optimized/downgraded?
What does that prove.

Arkham Knight runs like shit on PC

this

>retards not realizing that multiplayer infrastructure needs to be built from the ground up

It's most likely why the game looks worse than TW3 despite being released 5 years later.

They didn't get downgraded, though.
youtube.com/watch?v=dU6uZW-wKuQ
Unity even got optimized to run on medium tier builds and looks the same, Ubisoft just fucked up when releasing the game.
youtube.com/watch?v=8KcEPf3IkLM
>Arkham Knight runs like shit on PC
Not anymore, you can get well over 60 fps on a mid range build and have been able to for years. The game didn't get downgraded either.
youtube.com/watch?v=f73nD5ZolS4
youtube.com/watch?v=RhNpBJnckDY

Nice cope, CDPR drones.

They are going to copy gta online with lootboxes and shit.

It's post release and not a priority, they discussed it months ago but you were too busy jerking off to these threads.

>Not anymore
How long did it take?

Why are people going autistic over a single player focused game potentially having multiplayer? I for one would love some co op and small scale pvp.

Unity and Bamham got fixed within a year.Are you still trying to move the goalpost? If not, I'll accept your concession.

>5y old game dips to 60fps on a >200€ gpu at 1080p without the settings being maxed
Seems like garbage. You need like 300 gpu to run it at 1440p medium in 2019?
I guarantee that at some point doom had a build that got optimized at the cost of fidelity.
Its still a fucking mystery of what you want.

Because they've bounced back and forth on the subject like 5 times

>get grants from poland to develop mp so everyone speculated cp would have m
>say the game will be sp at launch
>say that mp theyve been looking at is going forward so itll come out in the future
Yeah..

Wow it's almost like you've only been following the game for three years!

Why would the polish government demand mp?

CDPR requested grants for different technologies and poland granted them to support local industries.

The polish government has a little more invested in cdpr than they care to admit.

>multiplayer
confirmed for shit tier RPG game, gonna be fallout 4 tier at best.

Please tell me OP is paid to make these threads. Otherwise he's a discord tranny.

>posting gaming news on Yea Forums means you're a shill

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>$300
You think the RX 580 is 300 dollars? You can also get the same specs on a GTX 980.
youtube.com/watch?v=wY9SOsBdjuA
>I guarantee that at some point doom had a build that got optimized at the cost of fidelity.
Feel free to point it out, because it got confirmed upgrades and I posted a video to prove it.
>Its still a fucking mystery of what you want.
To show you how stupid sound,when you actually believe that the only way to increase performance is to downgrade the game drastically. I'm not surprised that you're willingly trying to not realize this, though. You're clearly delusional. Keep coping for me, please.

why? cuz now u will have to buy it? enjoy single player lmao

>Feel free to point it out, because it got confirmed upgrades and I posted a video to prove it.
So make a game level, remove detail, make a video about it, up the detail, make a video about = not downgraded/optimized?

You wouldn't need to do that, you could just compare new footage to old footage and point out where the new footage looks worse. I'm waiting, drone.

Is reality dependent on whether you see a video of the development process or not?