Alright on to the final character 5. Who is most likely...

Alright on to the final character 5. Who is most likely, I think Doomguy and Crash Bandicoot have a lot of supporting evidence.

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What supporting evidence does Crash have? none

More games on a Nintendo console than someone like Dante

That's not evidence.

Crash will most likely be in the rumored playstation battle royale 2, so Doomguy would be the most likely of the two.

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Bump.

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I personally hope it's Travis, but it's going to be Ryu

Something I actually just noticed is the akward way the fighters pass has been revealed.
First was Joker at the Game Awards.
Then was Hero at the start of E3.
Then Banjo at the end of E3.
I didn't think that much about it until I though about Joker at the Game Awards. In case you forgot, Vergeben stated that the squeenix rep(now hero) would be the first in the fighters pass but with Joker it was clearly wrong.
However I believe initially Metroid Prime 4 would have been the Game Awards announcement rather than Joker but due to the sudden delay of Prime 4 they had to show something that would catch people attention and that's why Vergeben was technically wrong about Hero being first. I believe Hero would have been announced in the February direct with Joker either at the start of E3 or during the Persona concert.
>Nutshell version
Joker was originally fighters pass #2 but changed because of the Metroid Prime 4 delay.

Phoenix Wright

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HOW LONG UNTIL YOU REALIZE SAKURAI DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SHITTY WESTERN FRANCHISES?

NO DOOM GUY. NO CRASH. NO FUCKING UNDETALE SHIT.

Seems like it's gonna be Hayabusa. Doomguy needs at least a full Smash game's life cycle before word of support even reaches the development team and Nintendo higher ups.

Dark Souls

Banjo did it

P.S. imagine the Persona 5 Switch nonsense if Joker was revealed at E3. You though the Scramble announcement was bad? Dear god I couldn't imagine the chaos of post P5R Joker announcement.

So the only evidence for Hayabusa is that text leak that said it would be him and Terry, right? Why are we believing a text leak all of a sudden?

If by evidence you mean nothing then yes.

And Diddy Kong did it a decade earlier.

A supposedly credible leaker named shifty has been claiming Ryu is in

is there a chance the SNK is due to assist trophy status and we instead get a nintendo-based character?

It's already been confirmed to be Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden.

Playstation battle Royale 2, or as I like to call it, "A fate worse than Exclusion"

I hope for Doomguy, personally, he seems like a hell of a challenge to make work in a space like Smash. Ryu Hayabusa makes me sleepy and I don't think ninpo and an Izuna Drop are enough to really set him apart from the other ninjas, assuming Black and beyond are used as inspiration. Assuming NES, too much shit from his source-game that could set him apart wouldn't work very well or would be functionally useless in 90% of the game, like wall climbing.
Who cares about console representation, Cloud was never in a Final Fantasy game on a Nintendo console until Theaterhythm. Prior to that he'd only been in via Kingdom Hearts. To say nothing of Joker and Persona Q.

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A mighty kek roars from within me.

>implying the "leak" wasn't Ryu being in Orochi Warriors

I'm coming.

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>Hayabusa being in another fighting game
Doesn't make sense for him to be repped in two games
WRIGHTBROS, WE ARE GONNA MAKE IT

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>tfw no Link/Zelda/Ganondorf in switch version of WO4

Diddy Kong is owned by Nintendo

Some of these choices were good and some are meh but overall this is good.

I doubt they made the animation for the Joker trailer on such short notice. It's most likely Joker was intended to be the first DLC even before Prime 4's delay announcement

But was created by a western studio.

>Leak that stated Terry was in before anything SNK related officially leaked
>An insider who has been right on a lot of info prior is adamant that Hayabusa is in
>Definitely the weakest point and really just more speculation, but many of the newly represented franchises on the starter pass belong to companies that not only haven't been represented in Smash prior, but have also been early supporters of the Switch (Atlus + SMTV, Enix + DQXI being the first game announced for Switch, Microsoft + all the ports they've been doing, SNK + Arcade Archives) which Koei Tecmo would fall into similarly (Fire Emblem Warriors, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3)
It's very shaky evidence and absolutely nothing definitive, but he currently has more than pretty much any other character has right now

The delay of MP4 wasn't sudden, the announcement was.

Yes but the difference is that Banjo is owned by a western studio and Diddy is has always been owned by the Japs

>Dante
Don't worry, capcom will port him in at $30 like they've done for two and a half fucking years

He's still created by a western studio.
Your mental gymnastics won't work.

i wouldn't wish that nightmare fate on fucking steve

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this nigga gets in before ryu hayabusa wyd

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All of the arguments I’m making are the ones people used AGAINST Banjo in the first place.

Joker has like 1

heres your turok rep bro

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Not like he's been in too many other games either way.

A tiny part of me was still hoping Geno (with Mallow helping in the final smash) could get in as a last DLC. Now that some leakers confirmed it'll be the ninja owned by the big tiddie girls that beat eachother up and play voleyball, all hope has been lost.
I'm pretty sure nothing from SMRPG will ever, ever come back.

If you want Geno to come back in literally anyway, you should probably try getting him in smaller games first like Mario Kart or something
Going from a dead side-character from a 1996 spinoff game to fully fledged Smash Bros. all star is a very big leap

Fighter #5 will probably be announced at the Game Awards, so it would make sense to show a character who appeals to Western audiences there, although we did get Joker there last time so who knows. I’m guessing nobody will know until it gets leaked a week or so in advance, or maybe it will be a complete surprise.
That being said, if we get a bonus fighter, I’m fairly certain it’s Porky, since him, Giygas, Andonuts, Fassad, and the Pigmask Army are all missing from the game.

fucking hideous picks
but it has plok so cant complaint

I wouldn't call them side characters. Geno and Mallow were main characters alongside the other members. A side character would be someone like Toadofsky, Booster or Frogfocius.
In any case, getting the rights from Square to put either one of them in Mario Kart instead of Smash seems like a waste of money.

Waste how? MK sells the same if not more than SSB and presumably under a lower budget.

I just think Smash generates much more hype, money and awareness of the character. When a character who's been dead for a while gets in, in a few years they get revived. Case in point, Mega Man.
Geno being in Mario Kart would do no good to neither party. Characters in Mario Kart are almost tossed aside and don't really hold as much weight.

Plus, new characters in MK don't get huge trailers with cgi and people going nuts when they show up, do they? That honor of 'hype' goes to the modes, the tracks, the items. That's what excites people when expecting a new MK.

i can only hope it's crash

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Nope, he's in Playstation Battle Royale 2.

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>Doesn't make sense for Hayabusa to be in 2 fighting games
>WRIGHTBROS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT
Wright was in UMvC3 tho

Bump.

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Quite literally confirmed to be ryu.

wrong Ultimate

Delete this right fucking now.

Ryu Hayabusa if the trailer is a continuation of incineroar. Doomguy if not

>entire pass is made to pander to Japan
BASED SAKURAI
FUCK WESTERN KEKS
>b-b-but BANJO!!!
"No!"
Japan fucking LOVES Banjo.
>b-b-but REVISIONISM
Not an argument.

Nintendo will always look out for Japan first.
Every single piece of DLC from Tr4sh to Tra5h has been made to pander to Japan primarily.
Face the fucking music you niggers, your retarded ass picks will never make it in.

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By the time Persona 5 Royal comes out then 50% of Joker's appearances in video games as an entertainment medium will be on Nintendo consoles. Who knows, Maybe Royal will get a switch port down the line in the same fashion as Spyro bumping it to 75%

please do not sully touhou's good name by making low-effort posts with its characters

good thing japan fucking love's the bandicoot

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>This argument
>When Cloud and Joker are either exclusively seen on spin offs or cameo in different games
When will you people learn?

>REVISIONISM
Banjo-Kazooie is niche in Japan, the fans are there, just not in great numbers. Revisionism is going to be brought up a lot because everyone kept saying "NO ONE OUTSIDE THE US CARES ABOUT BANJO" nonstop for about a year.

No revisionism needed.
He was literally the most requested character in Japan for Smash.

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