Is it possible he Epstein'd himself for publicity purposes?

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Source? He could have easily denied it and it really looks like more people hinted that he did it.

>she looks like she'd be damp to the touch
i've thought something like that. she looks runny... like her eyes remind me of runny eggs and she just generally looks like she has a cold or something. she looks damp. zoe the damp.

edmund hates the sjw clique and this is what he's saying. if anything i can take from this is that unlike most other people he backed out after only 2 weeks, instead of staying around and suffering with the guy for years

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this antihero_kate person tweets literally 24/7
an average of 20 tweets per day since 2014
holy hell

yeah, it's clear the guy had serious mental issues. I don't know why people find it so hard to believe he could be emotionally abusive.

considering epstein didn't kill himself, no.

>edmund hates the sjw clique
nigger if you can stomach it look at his wife

LIKE A BOWLING BALL

sadly reads like it was written by a male

He could have easily denied it
i doubt he could bring himself to have anything to do with the internet after the initial sharp shock.

>it really looks like more people hinted that he did it.
did what? nothing. certainly nothing of real import.

This is the only opinion from this mess that I will take at face value. Also it's not a threat if he actually did it.

No clue but i'm looking at the porn again so there's that.

he talks about how much he hates them at length here youtube.com/watch?v=UmQ_8UdJ08s&feature=youtu.be&t=220

This has absolutely nothing to do with Zoes bullshit claims that he basically kidnapped her for a month.

Since you're asking this in every thread: Never.

You should apologize for wasting our time with this shit.

>Also it's not a threat if he actually did it.
??? you mean empty threat nigga

>It'd be great for my financials.
At least they're honest that it's all about anymore. Extracting value from men. No love left.

I'm sorry we live in a society that let this happened

I find it amazing how SJWs are all about "tolerating and accepting" mental illness. But when met with someone who's actually fucked up, an not some tumblr self-diagnosed psych patient, they rush to demonize the person.

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Yep. There are claims from people that he was a mess, but Zoe is the only one who claimed that he held her in her apartment against her will and raped her?

>Zoe's bullshit claims
She didn't accuse him of kidnapping, just verbal and emotional abuse. And walking her around by the pussy, but I haven't seen what she actually said about that.

Based Steakmund.

>Be me, have 1 day off between now and next Friday
>Almost guaranteed at least 2 of those days will be shifts longer than 10 hours
>would kill to only have to work 7 hours a day
This generation is awful, if this is what the future of humanity looks like I don't even care about whites getting bred out of existence. Let the minorities and pussywhipped numales deal with the aged population and global warming.

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>Quinn said that Holowka isolated them from everyone in their life, screamed at them for over an hour for saying hello in the wrong tone of voice, and wouldn't let Quinn leave the apartment. Holowka was aware of a previous sexual assault that Quinn was the victim of, and he would bring it up during sex. Quinn added that Holowka was "mean and violent." Quinn said that they would hide in the bathroom from Holowka. "His moods would shift and he'd throw things and hurt himself seemingly at random and blame me. He'd jam his fingers inside me and walk me around the house by them when I told him it hurt."

It's because of who, and the timeline. Do you think Zoe Quinn of all fucking people is afraid to go to the police?

To be fair though, I wouldn't be surprised if it were a "everyone is horrible to everyone" situation, as most DV cases are, and it's only a question of direction and degrees..

Yep he's rich now!

Why didn't she ever call the police. She had her phone the entire time.

>grrr i hate this generation because they supposedly aren't willing to work much for goldblatt & goldblatt

To be fair, Edmund doesn't have any "soft skills" as well. So maybe it was Alec who decided to break the collaboration.

like that time she got mugged and the mugger took everything BUT the phone?

>Quinn said that they would hide

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I'm taking down all you fuckers postcodes.

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Fear of retaliation and lack of police action.

Epstein was a monster convicted of sexually abusing a child and then 36 others came forward.
He went on to eventually engage in fucking sex trafficking of minors.
There is not a doubt in my mind that he was completely without remorse, would never commit suicide and if released would have gone on to abuse more children.
His "suicide" was a boon to society.

Indie dev hipster shit, not a doubt in my mind that he went An Hero.
Could he have been abusive? Most definitely.
Did she deserve it? Not even a question.
Consumed by remorse? With that much libtard punch flowing through his veins, absolutely.
Excommunication from the fagmo millennial echo-chamber he loved so much is a fate tantamount to death, and he chose to accept his fate before the creatures he rubbed shoulders with really had time to sink their fangs into him.

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Then he wouldn't do her bidding.

Oh you mean made up nonsense? Police don't fucking laugh when a woman says help I'm trapped in a man's apartment. You're telling me police will come over to a domestic when they're just yelling but not a fucking kidnapping.

did you get this idea from csi or some shit?

>Zoe Quinn is not a woman
Well that explains a lot.

what a fucking retard

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>Epstein's "suicide" was a boon to society.
no it wasn't. His death fucked over hundreds of victims who will never get justice now. He was a key witness to a shitload of crimes.

>Source?
Source on him suspecting things, a facebook post thats going around.
Source on them making a secret discord to plot against him, some article another dev made.

I guess everyone's forgotten that Zoe also detailed another rape before alec that she also didn't report and later became friends with.

>remorse for abuse is a liberal conspiracy

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all that his former friends and collaborators offer up is insincere attention-seeking drivel written in the typical sociopathic millennial cant

scum

cancel "cancel culture"

No, because she isn't trapped. There would be no action when all it will do is leave her stranded and him pissed. That's why it's just emotional and verbal abuse with some unwanted fingering she would be unable to prove and it would leave her stranded and him pissed.

she's accusing all of her exes of nonspecific abuse. recently it was (((alex lipschitzenberg))). golly, she just can't catch a break.

So, if a programmer isn't stable, it's safe to assume he also kidnapped and raped someone?

yamero

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Yep. She was five years with him and started CON with him, but apparently he's the evil one and he manipulated her.

>Excommunication from the fagmo millennial echo-chamber
Far-right raving retard just HAPPENS to be a furry pedophile
Totally a coincidence!

>rofl haha totalbiscuit died of metastatic bowel cancer haha!!!
how many times have you said "kys" or similar on this imageboard?

>what if, what if, what if

There’s a movie on channel 4 on British tv tonight that’s about a female game developer that gets raped.

It’s called Elle. Bad taste channel 4.

If someone has mental problems then they're capable of literally anything you wanna pin on them

You are completely right, ignore these retards.

there's a facebook conversation between zoe and someone else from 2017 where she talks about trying to "take down" specific named people she didn't like in the industry (names are censored), some sort of revenge from her days trying to get into it. don't know if it's fake or not but eye opening considering the current affair.

No, but if he's been known to have borderline personality disorder and bipolar, knowing someone like friends and family knew him helps people put two and two together with multiple accounts and character witnesses. He didn't even try to deny it. He could have easily taken her down more.

>His death fucked over hundreds of victims who will never get justice now.

Shouldn't the fact that he no longer has a pulse means he will never commit such atrocities again? Isn't that justice enough?

What do they still want? For him to still be alive so he can be executed anyway for his crimes?

Anyone seen it?I only know that Paul Veorheven directed it?

he must have touched a nerve. are you now becoming conscious of your place in the "fagmo millennial echo-chamber"?

So which game is better YIIK or NiTW? I've only seen the two compared in that both games have asshole MCs.

Emotional and verbal abuse is not a real abuse, so police wouldn't bother.

What is this even supposed to mean?
Millenials are now a conspiracy?

All a woman has to do is cry and the police will take any man away instantly. This is horse shit.

I love this story. Shit like this makes me believe there actually is a god and he has a based sense of humor.
Everything Zoe is involved in is a trash fire, it's fucking amazing. Even if he is guilty of all this 'abuse'(which he probably is) all the tweets and articles his "friends" are writing about it just bury themselves further. I love it.

this shitty clique feeds off fictional oppression

>DUDE THIS IS JUST LIKE THE HANDMAID'S TALE
>OH MY GOD CAN WHITE PEOPLE STOP LYNCHING BLACK MEN LIKE IN TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD FOR JUST ONE MOMENT?
ad nauseam

no. It isn't enough you fucking moron. People like you who want immediate satisfaction are what's ruining this world. Imagine if he lived to go to trial and indicted all the people he was in cahoots with. Those underground pedo rings full of billionaire fatcats, would be blown wide open. THAT is justice.

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he had valuable knowledge about a global network of elite nonces. now he does not.

>He didn't even try to deny it.

He's called Zoe a liar on twitter many times.

>He could have easily taken her down more.
And Zoe could have lied /exagarated like the 200 TIMES ITS BEEN DOCUMENTED

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Do they show the fun parts of rape?

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He is far from the only one. There are a lot of notable names drinking the koolaid. Even the fucking epic battle fantasy dev seems like he might believe that shitty story.

Nice proof.

You are very naive to believe that.

I mean to say implicated not indicted.

>Imagine if he lived to go to trial and indicted all the people he was in cahoots with

What makes you think he would've really done that? He isn't stupid, doing something like that would lead to a fate worst than death.

is english not your first language?

So are people with no (diagnosed) mental problems.

Source? Last time I checked, without evidence no immediate action can be taken.

its shit so whatever, glad he's dead

Smack a woman right now and see how not in jail you are

Or this...

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Mentally unstable people are like magnets to each other.

>He didn't even try to deny it.
He's posted numerous times that Zoe is not only an abusive liar, but that she's also abused him as well as friends of his, and actually had proof of his allegations (which was pretty much just basic bipolar shit). Meanwhile we still don't even have a single piece of text from this guy who's been abusing woman, coworkers and employees for a minimum of nine years.

English would be preferable to deciphering that retardbabble you posted before.

>Calling others naive
>When it's literally basic protocol of police to remove the male from the property in domestic disputes regardless of what's being claimed by both parties

That's what I'm trying to grasp: the new math. Putting two and two. Let's say, I know a person who is on meds, would it be okay to pin a few crimes on him? I really don't like the guy.

What did he post before he killed himself?

I can't for the life of me understand how that claim is even physically possible

What if both parties in the domestic dispute are both male? Or are both female?

Guys, have you ever had that friend that is always telling sex jokes in the middle of every conversation? No matter the topic, he always interrupt the talk to insert his fucking joke.

"So I found a snail un the backyard" LOL BACKYARD LIKE IN YOUR ASS

"Walking Up the street" LOL UP LIKE A DICK

This people are like that stupid retard. But you can't tell them to shut the fuck up because they are doing a better world...

As pointed out, the police can't do anything without evidence.

>Steam forum full of locked threads
wew

Then the cop explodes.

That's because you don't care about vidya, user. Saw a lot of threads about the game on Yea Forums.

I like how literally nobody is talking about this guy's death except Yea Forums.

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assuming no action is taken, there are still the following options open to a person feeling threatened:
>1. the possibility for police to offer escort
>2. the possibility for the supposed victim to request escort
>3. the possibility for the supposed victim to simply depart alongside police, in effect being implicitly escorted by them

this is all embellishment by a malicious and habitually dishonest abusive sociopath though, so this discussion is pointless

You're wrong but okay

yeah on other sites the gamut of permitted views ranges from "good riddance" to "ugh. this is shitty. ugh."

NeoGaf and Kiwifarms both have active threads on it.

i would kill myself too if all your friends and family tell you to kill yourself.

The other important thing is that it gets filed so that theres some proof something even fucking happened.

No, but an accusation of someone having abusive mood swings is made more believable if there's a formal diagnosis and history of being an abusive asshole while experiencing mood swings. It's not proof positive, but when friends and family know them like that it starts to add up. Someone could be perfectly mentally healthy and if there's enough character witness, you can judge someone better.

Keep in mind it's just an accusation. Like when someone tries to warn you someone else is an asshole and tells you why they think that, it isn't a court case, just a heads up that you can consider.

You are weak.

The thought of sharing a planet with these people. Can they all go and stay go? I just want to play video games.

Forcing someone around by putting your finder in them is possible. My guess is that he jammed his fingers in her pussy and pushed her back onto the bed, "forcing" her there. She said not to do it and he did it.

i-i'm sorry queen i will commit soduko for my crime!

Are you actually retarded? He's an insanely valuable witness and now all the info dies with him.

Long read but ultimately paints a picture of a complete whackjob of a human being that will do whatever they want and push blame onto others for their own actions.

That's why people with no friends are the strongest.

I like how you don't leave Yea Forums.

Have you looked at the Steam page for their game lately?

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i saw a post saying she might have meant "dig his fingers in me" which makes more sense

medium.com/@bombsfall/alec-2618dc1e23e
Lmao this fag had panic attacks from his stupid ideas being shot down after redesigning the game 7 times. This is what they consider abusive. This is what industry figureheads are eating up on twitter RIGHT NOW while sucking his dick.

thanks

Why thank you, because I fully intend to stay here!

Of course not. I'm not retarded. What the fuck would I look there for?

That's good

I have been here far, far, far longer than you have you slimy little baby

Being apart of groups (on Discord for example) is a huge help. You have a constant moral support, and if you build something within this group, it becomes truly reliable with time.
Can't imagine being on my own today.

Sorry you fucking killed a man

three hours of millenial whining based around clipart cats to bait out the furry fandom despite backing off and saying they were of course not actually furries

If all these indie knew Alec personally and can totally verify what happened, then why are they waiting until JUST THIS WEEK to say something?

>"You see that guy over there?"
>Yeah, he's a coworker of mine, alright guy.
>"I think he's a rapist."
>He is? I always thought so! I knew from the beginning that he was a rapist, I tried to warn everyone!

Based wholesome poster

If an accusation costs so much in modern society, then it's not just an accusation, it needs to justify its weight somehow. Don't you think?

B-but
TRANNIES

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tbf this one post became 8 tweets thanks to the limit, your average chan user shitposts at least 20 tweets worth in under an hour

That's nuffin, this is even better.

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Trigger warning, the evidence this time is compiled by a faggot brony

Why do you need moral support from others?

>killing yourself as a publicity stunt

Makes total sense, in fact why don't you try it right now OP.

It doesn't have to be an embellishment; people are perfectly capable of being scared and shortsighted. What makes you think they aren't? At some point, Zoe being a dumb bitch actually lends validity to her being taken advantage of. It's totally possible to abuse stupid and weak people. Abuse can happen and proper steps aren't made to change it. Like I have a borderline personality disorder friend who is emotionally abusive and I don't give a fuck because I have plenty of other people to hang out with. If I were desperate and isolated and in a relationship with someone like that, those attempts to hurt me might actually hurt me and then I'd have a problem. If I were illequiped to handle that or just dumb, that doesn't make an abuser not an abuser.

No no no, you misunderstand it's about tolerating minor untestable meme illnesses like depression and anxiety, because anyone can just say that they have them for maximum twitter points.
Anything life-ruining like schizophrenia or autism is much harder to fake so they deserve no sympathy

I’ve seen people say positive things about NitW sometimes, never heard anything positive about YIIK ever.

>You have a constant moral support, and if you build something within this group, it becomes truly reliable with time.

Until some random bitch accuses you of something she made up and all your Discord "friends" turn on you on a dime because they were never your actual friends, just people you chatted with.

A witness of typical mutual abuse, maybe.
It's not like the justice would prevail even if all those cases were actually investigated.

Damn she's ugly...if you are willing to fuck this, and even worse..cheat your wife with that..you deserve to end yourself.

didnt Epstein get assassinated or something?

Oh sure, but these act as public support groups where people stop hiding other people's shame. The accused are free to pull an Aziz and tell them to fuck off. What actions did Alec take before killing himself?

>evidence by a brony is actually of higher quality than what Yea Forums managed to get
Clown world

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I'm just saying that if you look at a series of mathematical equations and it keeps coming out one way that means there is a constant within that equation causing it to do so ie: multiplying something by zero.

Practically every single relationship she claims to be in she is the abused. This is barring the times she was seen cheating on her SO, or making claims to protect her cheating by turning the claims back onto her victim. All of these facts combined with documented evidence in which we see that is indeed a completely unhinged pathological liar leads me to believe that she IS an abuser. She's a professional victim plain and simple and a horrible human being to boot.

And yet Alec did nothing but support her claim in the end.

Thats why he killed himself instead of writing a "I did it" manifesto to support his "allies"?

Well, it's not about support groups (I'm sure Alec didn't kill himself over a few hundreds of hate mails). The problem is, colleagues like DerekYu, Edmund McMillen and others immediately jumped the bandwagon and treated an accusation like a fact. And that's a career crash if I've seen one, you can't just tell everyone to fuck off. So, if we assume the same will happen with every accusation, the status has to be adjusted accordingly to the new reality. It's not a simple words anymore, it's a testimony. Am I wrong?

i dont know why but that image is disgusting

Apparently he WAS a bit insane.

Alec had depression and anxiety.

cancel yourself

It's the catgirl disease.
Hide before you turn!

>Neofag
Wait, what? Aren't they almost as insane as Retardera?

I think a lot of the emotionally unstable sad sack betas that she dates tend to be easy to push around, probably to the point of suicide if the cards were played right. Like making certain that the money for the work which he would be entitled wouldn't be forthcoming, or ostracizing him socially so he had no known network to support him, or knowing that someone was depressed and suicidal and all they needed was a little push in the right direction to do so. But you are right, he should've wrote in great detail that he definitely did it before he killed himself to really cement his place as an ally. Seriously though? Go fuck yourself.

>Well, it's not about support groups
It's funny how you don't offer an alternative, you just outright deny victims finding support among each other.

"Hey watchout, that guys an asshole because he dumped my sister via text" is a testimony. "That guys an autistic brony" is a testimony.

Its also important to look at the timeline of events. It takes a man a couple weeks of soul searching to decide to commit suicide if its just that his life went sour. The guy must have received some severe harassment and ecnouragement. Its as if everyone was like "okay can we get this done and over with in a weekend? thanks." This missing ingredient about this whole this is compassion. No one is saying "suicide is a tragedy" no one is saying "goodbye alec" no one is saying anything like "His life got turned upside down in a matter of days" Everyone's talking like its already weeks after the fact and are opening up to do a post mortem. The guy hasn't even had a funeral yet and the friends and family are already throwing him under the bus and want this mess to be over. THe definition of a weekend controversy. It stinks, it all stinks.

All the faggots leaving for Retardera has left Neogaf probably the most level-headed forum that's willing to actually talk about this shit.

I'm sorry that scumbags like you are still alive, Zoe Quinn.

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Night in the woods? More like night of the long knives get fucking purged rapist

It's weird how you think of all that but dance around how normal it would be to give a "I didn't do it and Zoe is dangerous" blog post before ending his life. Now he just looks like the guilt and bipolar got the best of him.

No, embrace it.

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You mean like how Eron did and got dragged into litigation and that turned out so well right? No past record of any of that being helpful did it? Oh that's right it wasn't.

Is this the new gangweed?

>"I didn't do it and Zoe is dangerous" blog post before ending his life
suicide victims aren't exactly rational. You could expect that if this was weeks of soul searching but it wasn't. It was days. The guy was desperately looking for an escape. Maybe the guy left an actual suicide note. The sister isn't gonna release something that makes Zoe look bad. It wouldn't even be actionable evidence, it would just make Zoe look stinky, and that must be avoided at all costs.

Do you seriously think that people who plan to commit suicide worry about litigation?

>how normal it would be to give a "I didn't do it and Zoe is dangerous" blog post before ending his life
what

What about his murderers purging everything? Doesn't that look even more suspicious than the suicide?

There's some on other Steam page forums like Hyper Light Drifter and 2064: Read Only Memories.

She said he wished her well and that hints at a suicide note. But yeah, it's all speculation.

>but dance around how normal it would be to give a "I didn't do it and Zoe is dangerous" blog post
The last time someone posted a blog post saying Zoe was dangerous (with evidence mind you) the guy had a fucking court case brought up against him and lost a fair amount of money and friends. But you seem to be under the impression that a heavily mentally ill man who thought people are gang-stalking him could have been able to handle that.

No I think if someone was planning on killing themselves and saw that someone else's claims that they lived with a psychopath fell on deaf ears then who the fuck would care what they wrote at all you imbecile. He even stated in other twitter posts that she was a pathological liar and that didn't exactly do much so what would beating a dead horse do? Jesus fucking tap dancing christ you are a dense motherfucker.

Maybe he did. The sister might have stopped him and taken his phone.

What's being purged? What did they kill him with?

You're right, not a single person who's on their deathbed thinks of the people still living. Zoe couldn't possibly have sued his estate and family for damages done to her, like she did with Eron.

>She said he wished her well and that hints at a suicide note.
I'm calling shenanigans. If such thing existed, she would post it. She's bending over backwards to exonerate Zoe, and such a thing would only help.
>user thats too intimate, she wouldnt post it
AND YET WE HAVE TO HEAR THE WORST SINS THIS MAN EVER COMMITED

>Jeffrey Epstein’s autopsy determined the convicted pedophile suffered multiple broken neck bones, according to a report.

>One of the breaks was to Epstein’s hyoid bone, an injury that experts told the Washington Post is more common in homicide victims.

I made this for Scott Benson

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Well, we're living in magical world now. Words can kill and do kill. So if "That guys an autistic brony" immediately turns accused person into petrified horse, you have to take responsibility.

I don't have an alternative for twitterjustice, you need to think of something yourself.

>listen and believe... only alec
I'm sure they both suck. One might say they were made for each other. In the end though, I don't think he's completely stupid and he would be rightly pissed if it were a false accusation and would have fought it or at the very least take her down with him.

Mother fucker have you heard his wife talk? she's pretty much Yea Forums

This isn't Yea Forums
E-Celeb Deaths aren't Yea Forums
The Death of Etika isn't Yea Forums
Projered sexapades isn't Yea Forums
Zoe isn't Yea Forums.

Take this to /soc/ you fucking idiots.

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this user person posts literally 24/7
an average of 20 posts per day since 2016
holy hell

You'll make up all sorts of stories and excuses.

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What about the deaths of game developers?

>game developers aren't Yea Forums
This has as much reason to be here as a Kojima thread.

Their Twitter accounts and/or tweets related to the accusation.

Keep in mind the average unskilled work position (because while trades can be based, kids grow up being indoctrinated to only go to college tor suck ass their entire lives) doesn't pay jack shit. As in, people on welfare make more money than people working full time at the unskilled wage floor.

In that regard, a lot of people in the generation that either don't finish college (about 50% of students never do, and a lot of people put off starting families/getting married until they graduate or reach financial stability which can take into your thirties if you drop out and now have 20k of debt that can't be forgiven and no skills) or don't hop into trades are incapable of being financially independent without hitting slave hours for years, or are unwilling to take the risk to simply abandon their indoctrination and shoot for a trade that's easier to pick up.

It doesn't help that as the market of people looking for work grows, more places demand college degrees that don't need them. For example, I've seen multiple positions that don't involve anything particularly complex that demand "Bachelor's Degree Required." In what? Nothing in particular, which is a key sign they don't NEED a degree in anything, but forcing people to go to school for what would have been entry level work years ago means less paperwork for HR and more desperate employees.

Remember kids. If it's not your dream field and you're trying to get by: Lie on your resumes. It's not illegal and you're already unemployed.

It stinks because it's politics, and they try to sweep this under the rug exactly because they don't want to admit it.

The implication that the man had the wherewithal to plan for the future while at the same time killing himself less than 48 hours of hearing bad news is incredibly stupid.

You don't make much sense.

Chuds pretending this isn't actually about Zoe

Isn't Zoe supposed to be a game dev too? My point still stands.

>Epstein'd
But Epstein was killed

>Huge wall of text about her life
>Not a single piece of content actually from Alec
how does this dispute his claim that there wasn't a suicide note?

If two men from two separate relationships make the same claim about the same person how long for you until it is pattern recognition or does it continue to be baseless? How many more times can the same thing occur without it being "coincidence"? You're seriously unhinged as a person and if your worldview causes you this much distress that you can't fathom that this horrible human being Zoe might once again be lying through her teeth is disgusting. That at this point she can continue to masquerade as a good human being is sickening to me and how you can't wrap your mind around the circumstances in which doubt is cast on her word is baffling. Good luck in your life, I think you'll need it you stupid fuck.

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Take it to /soc/ if you want to bitch and moan about it. There is nothing /VIDEOGAME/ Related about a /GameDevDeath/ Thread here on Yea Forums

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>this is a tragedy
>now hear about how my life and how I support #MeToo

If there's a suicide note it should be mentioned in the police report, I mean as far as we know his body isn't even cold yet police report not filed yet

I'd just like to point out how insanely fucked up it is to create a group to stalk a guy who believes they're being gang stalked. The people that tend to believe that stuffs happening to them tend to be incredibly mentally unstable, and with good reason as the concept is fucking terrifying. Imagine deciding it isn't really something that's happening to you, only to find out it was true all along.

Spooky shit mang.

>find my brother's corpse on the floor
>better tell twitter
Wait, do they live together or something? How'd this go?

She says he wished her well, so if there was a suicide note, it might not have been negative to Zoe. It's the most substance there is for the presence of a suicide note and it's still unsubstantial.

I'll rephrase for you:

Alec Holowka would now live and create many beautiful games if the bitch didn't publicly testify that he raped her (which he didn't, it was 100$ consensual). For that murder she must be held responsible.

>I'm sure they both suck.
Based on what evidence exactly? Do you believe that Trayvon didn't really attack Zimzam too because some people came out to defend him with anecdotes as well?

that's his cunt sister who turned on him. she probably told him to kill himself. I would bet if there was a suicide note, she hid it.

>Is it possible he Epstein'd himself for publicity purposes?

He's fucking dead, how could he possibly gain from this?

>100$ consensual
sounds like Zoe to me

*100%

There's doubt, but there's more of a chance that Alec was actually abusive. I still believe Zoe is a scumbag.

funnily enough one of the main ppl defending zoe on twitter is also a furry pedophile.
he even put on his profile that he likes adult diaper shit

No way fag

A girls gotta protect herself. Shes on the block too for not warning people that her brother was an irredeemable ultra-monster.

I honestly believe he was enough of a cuck to defend MeToo in his suicide note.

What does abusive mean in this context though? That he was an asshole? Frankly it doesn't matter if he was or not, calling him out for it nearly a decade later in a public announcement out of the blue is fucked up.

Even if there was one, his feminist sister would destroy it, obviously.

>there's more of a chance that Alec was actually abusive.
Based on the testimony of a known liar? Or are they the allegations from a man that claimed a 7 our work day was abusive, and that he despised the man he worked with even though he worked with him for years and continued to do so after no longer being contractually obligated to do so? You're not a very bright man are you?

People who make the decision this fucking fast don't leave a note.

So you're asking me not to cast judgement based on my reasoning and instead accept your equally substantiated reasoning because... zimzam actually got rich for killing traytray and isn't some unpersoned pariah in a liberal dystopia?

If you grew up like I did, and I know most of you did, in the weird 90s and early 2000s goth and emo and nerd and computer subcultures, you most likely met at least one, but probably many of one type of girl. The one who wasn't exactly supermodel hot, but could get by sorta on her looks and was always super flirty or open with everyone, who did anything she could for attention and dated guys for a week at a time just because. The girl who made up mental illnesses and claimed she saw ghosts or had stories about rape and abuse that she just casually told to any who'd listen because it made her feel in control for a few minutes.

These girls were desperate and would exploit any dude they could sleep with because they had no real ambition or skill. They claimed to be artists and writers and poets and musicians despite never creating anything and always hung around people who did and leeched off their attentiion.

When that kind of girl grows up and never grows out of that phase, and you mix in an increasingly PC culture where everything a woman says is gospel and they can do no wrong because it's always the men's fault...then you get Zoe Quinn.

I don't know how no one realizes this, she's literally just a basic dumb emo brat who keeps failing upwards by making up stories about how everyone she's ever met has raped her.

What's that based on? He had two days.

Really? Is there any statistics on this?

I give you one last warning. Move this topic to /soc/ or Yea Forums because this doesn't correlate regarding anything about gaming media.
If you want to make this topic stay. Talk about the game Night In the Woods.

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But all of those things were stickied on Yea Forums

as someone that used to be in the 'scene' and go to IGF and watched close friends win multiple times and had a semi-successful game of my own (you guys would know it) everything he says here is true.
for every creative person that makes games, there's about 50 that are just hangers-on that are just there socially, not making anything related to games, contributing NOTHING but drama and their input on gender studies
and no I won't tell you what game I made, any sort of criticism of these nasty transsexual fucks will get you ostracised by everyone else, edmund just has enough money and success that he doesn't care I guess

My hope for Aquaria 2 is totally gone
youtube.com/watch?v=IyZJo7RpCwo

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Thank you, based Zoe-sama. We know what to do now. Give us your strength.

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Based on the lack of pushback and defense from people who knew him. And the lack of pushback and defense from the man himself. We won't know 100% either way, but there isn't enough evidence to call it murder.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22759663
>Note writers, 26.1% of our sample, differed in the following: they died by hanging or shooting (p=.007), had no history of psychiatric illness (pNo history of psychiatric illness

Email the authors, they will give you the full article for free.

Pretty sure he was an asshole llike Phil Fish and Edmund McMillen. Doesn't change anything though.

Night in the Woods isn't something I'd play, but I think it's interesting how many people want to fuck that cat. I thought it was a boy cat at first, but I guess if you label anything a girl somebody will want to fuck it.

be funny if the mods banned you for avatar fagging.

You're right it wasn't murder it was assisted suicide.

In all honesty. Who cares?
>Someone dies regarding gaming
Ohhh Boo Hoo lets make a sticky!

>Someone dies that made an impact on gaming

Ohhh boo hoo lets make a sticky!

No one even mentions Satoru Iwata anymore.

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That doesn't support your claim. Did you already get the article?

Forgot to add
>psychiatric hospitalization
doesn't mean he was just taking meds and going to therapy. It means he went to some manner of care facility either on his own, or because he was presenting a danger to himself others. Such a thing wasn't mentioned by any of the turncoats so it likely didn't happen. It would make good fodder for the "burn Alec at the stake" campaign, so if it got omitted, its not real.
No but I read many like it during Uni. The idea is that note writers feel like they have to explain something to their close loved ones because they probably don't understand why the victim would anhero. Alec knows that his group knows why.

10 hour work days aren't hard, you're just lazy. I did a 6am to midnight shift once

That's a childish way of looking at it though. Beyond the lack of proof, it's also immature to shift responsibility in cases like these.

>I did a 6am to midnight shift once
>once

Then he's incredibly stupid because most assume he felt guilty. Which is possible, but doesn't really change anything.

I usually do 12 hour shifts, they're better than 8 hour shifts, I work 10 days then I don't have to work the rest of the month

It's funny how the mods aren't deleting these threads, I think they might be legitimately pissed about what happened as well.

Says while posting fucking gacha.

They were deleting them but gave up.

Onus of responsibility always lie in part to whatever put an action into motion. If a motorist finds their attention lacking due to some outside factor then both the driver and whatever the contributing force are in part responsible. A decent enough example is that if both people within a vehicle contribute to the wrongful but negligent death of another due to carelessness they are both responsible in part. To claim that there is no culpability to me is more immature.

I think they just want us to spin our wheels here instead of going to otherchan and getting radicalized by sadder and angerier anons. Also these threads are funny.

Wise decision, in this PC insanity you can't show your true identity. Even Edmund isn't very eloquent lately.

im an indie dev too and i dont understand what other indie devs like you fear. i released my game on steam while talking to literally no one at valve and had no issues. theyre the only people who can damage my ability to make a living off of games and they dont pay attention to any of these dramas. what exactly do you fear would happen if you spoke out? and im asking just out of curiosity because i dont understand it from my perspective. is it because you wouldnt be able to get publisher deals?

S-sory zoe hahaha... p-please dont kill me...

Alec was an abuser and the world is a better place without him in it.
Zoe did nothing wrong.

>isolation makes crazy people off themselves

i got into game dev, and one of the reasons is i get 100% pure alone time, with literally no one around me. it's the most refreshing feeling.

Nothing new. There's plenty of desperate men out there that will give everything for some intimacy and attention.
Despite the men being more innocent in that situation, I judge them just as harshly for thinking with their dicks instead of their head.
youtube.com/watch?v=yRYFKcMa_Ek

I'm glad someone finally said this.
Alec has made women upset. I only wish that he suffered more before he died, now the survivors will not get justice.

You're stretching it to mean that no one is responsible. In an abstract way, yes we are all to blame and we can all do better, but we aren't ultimately responsible for each other. He had other alternatives.

lololololololol

Keep crying tranny

1. Weak people just don't ever push back.
2. Left-wing people never defend their colleagues when it's against current social agenda.

Im also a dev but much much smaller. I go to shows and cons in my area and theres only like 1% people who actually care about the craft. Said people are typically afraid of talking because theyre not that kind of person, they just wish they were home making video games. Everyone else is there is some fucking fundev who only wants attention and accolades. As soon as you mention something even remotely related to actual dev, even something as basic as gameplay loop they start gawking like you're speaking Martian. And these are core devs acting this way. Its fucking stupid and I recently had to cut ties because my local group was turning against ProJared and Holowka. I do not want to associate with these fuckers.

is it possible he keeps making this thread for discord clout

>theyre(Valve) the only people who can damage my ability to make a living off of games and they dont pay attention to any of these dramas.
Exactly, if more smaller devs realised this it'd take a lot of power away from this clique/cult or whatever.
While the 'woke' brigade have seeped their way into the big companies through the HR department, talented devs will always have a chance to make money with a good product.

No, it's because Hiro doesn't want to let the traffic fall off as people find elsewhere to discuss it and have to actually pay people to do a job, same reason the Etika shit was stickied. Doubt he has a vested interest in it like Moot did to boot.

The FBI are still investing theirs and the CIA's own posts, so it's still down. Really right now would be a good time to try to offload "undesirables".

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>edmund just has enough money and success that he doesn't care I guess
Same with Notch.

>survivor
why do these faggots use this word? as far as i know alec didn't attemped murder

It was advertised two years ago.

What were the alternatives? Don't you realize Noone would believe that in reality she abused him even more than he abused her.

No, the argument is that the actions taken and the accusations made were a determining factor in the man killing himself. That makes them BOTH responsible, maybe to differing degrees but it doesn't remove her from being culpable. He was responsible for killing himself and she was responsible for creating an environment in which he killed himself. In any other case of abuse or destruction of a social network we would claim that the person who created that environment is the antagonist. Any cyberbullying case sets precedent for that. I'm kind of amazed you could be so slowminded as to try to twist the argument in which you make me assume the wrong position of something in which I am arguing.

Because women who survived rape are strong and aren't victims!
Incels like you wouldn't know.

That's too much of a stretch to build a narrative around. At least for me.

>you aren't alone
Unless Zoe pens your name.

Kevin Spacey knew far more people, and his only allegation was that he tried to fucked an 18+ year old at a party with hard drugs.
> And the lack of pushback and defense from the man himself.
He's posted numerous times about Zoe back in the day, and no one gave a shit about it.

I'd like to have your input on this, why would people suddenly side with him AFTER he was accused by Zoe even though they didn't side with him when he posted abusive messages from her before with allegations that she's an abusive person?

>She said he wished her well and that hints at a suicide note.

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A good way to improve Yea Forums would be to ban everyone who posts in these stupid fucking threads

It's the eye of a tiger

yeah better to have based Etika threads, Nintendo all the way!!

>That's too much of a stretch to build a narrative around.
Did you miss Louise CK being essentially being blacklisted from Hollywood and comedy because he jacked off in front of women with their consent, but he was icky?

>what exactly do you fear would happen if you spoke out?
my friends, my career (my publishers)
basically exactly what happened to alec except he was way more successful than me and was way more into the SJW shit so I wouldn't even get articles or twitter threads, just blocked and ghosted
just posting on Yea Forums might as well put you on a terrorist list in the indie game scene

>This isn't Zoe's fault
>disregard Alec's own words that call her a liar

*resets router*
What now incel?

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this is what goes on at /pol/ on an hourly basis

>Be SJW faggot
>Promote stupid shit like diversity in gaming and narrative-based games as well be an unironic leftie
>Get dabbed on to death by the stupid shit you used to spread thanks to the lies of a bipolar whore where the narrative victim and the #BelieveWomen and #MeToo mantras made you get accused of being an evil rapist without evidence

I can't really get mad at Zoe when women like her is removing the trash that is killing video games, unironic woke lefties.

Oh jesus christ look at her

You need to do a questionnaire before being allowed to post here
If you're first console was anying after the PS1 or N64 you're banned
Then you have to name your favourite youtubers, if you can even name 1 you're banned

probably was an empty threat for some time. that's how they operate.

Now that's some weak samefagging

>Then you have to name your favourite youtubers, if you can even name 1 you're banned
This honeypot is such a good fucking idea. On the topic my favorite youtuber is Brackey's cus I like learning how to make vidya.

This a million times over. Alec was most likely anti white. Hope he burns

It's called "playing along" you autist

WTF, now I think this shitty sister actually prepared him all necessary tools for suicide, she's damn indoctrinated.

The most confusing thing in all of this...is if people actually believe that he raped Zoe, how could they possibly care that he killed himself? I mean, if someone I cared about was raped and the person who did it committed suicide, I'd be fucking ecstatic. How is it possible for all these woketards to both be mourning the loss of this dude, while they also stand by the belief that he did all this shit to Zoe?

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as someone that sort of knew him years ago from forums and irc, I think he was just really easily influenced. he was the kind of guy that if you told him your opinion about something he'd say 'oh, I didn't know that' and then start parroting it to other people
he was also a very unstable person so I'd totally believe he did all the shit he was accused of, but what the people accusing him aren't telling everyone is how fucking psycho they also were
I'd bet anything zoe "abused" the shit out of him too

I'll put 100 dollars that he died via alcohol over consumption, with the sister pushing him more and more.

>How is it possible for all these woketards to both be mourning the loss of this dude,
I dare you to find a single post of them actually showing grief.

He's said Zoe is abusive

No actually that was retconned. In the latest issue, the sister comes out and says "listen and believe" while ghost talking with Alec. Its kind of an asspull but maybe the anime will handle it better.

his sister is a goddamn necromancer

He was inviting coworkers too. It was more than just a one time thing.

It's really pathetic how they're trying to mentally cleanse themselves and justify what they did by writing all this drawn out shit and overdramaticising it for extra sympathy points. Make no mistake.. these walls of text are not written for us. It's for them to work out the guilt they harbor in their heads. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

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What was the context of the 5 Guys meme?

WEW

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eh, i just disagree but i dont know your situation. if your gamedev friends are people who would drop you because you post on Yea Forums or have right wing opinions then you need to find better gamedev friends. plenty of non sjw gamedevs around. i can understand the publisher thing though

They dont understand that to normal people, this is basically screaming
>HE DESERVED WHAT HE GOT BUT I TOTALLY SUPPORTED HIM ALL THE WAY THOUGH BUT NOT TOO MUCH CUS HES ICKY BUT HE STILL DESERVED IT THOUGH

zoes ex posted about his issues with her, he claimed she cheated on him with 5 different guys

>His "suicide" was a boon to society.

No. He knew where the bodies were buried and more importantly, knew who put them there

We lost immeasurably with his suicide. The only thing I know for sure now is that political options are off the table when it comes to those who facilitated his death

Name 4 (four) things wrong with being a furry pedophile.

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I like how he tries to twist the narrative to where alec didn't REALLY make the game (he didn't even know where the old strip mine was in real life! wow!) while the reality is every goddamn line of code was written by him, he was the one that proposed making the game, he was the one that did the kickstarter, he was the one that got them a publisher
this faggot can eat a giant dick, he was furiously typing damage control for his income before the body was even cold

>to normal people, this is basically screaming
No, it's not.
Normal people think totally differently from you.

I just can't believe he didn't have a deadman switch or something. Which makes me think he had some deal beforehand.

Furry
Being a furfag
Yiff in hell
3DPD

thezoepost.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/tldr/
>Spend quite a bit of time talking about how she would never ever cheat on anyone because that violates sexual consent — all the while cheating on me
>With Nathan Grayson
>And Robin Arnott
>And Joshua Boggs
>(who is both her boss and married)
>And at least two other people (whose names are censored). And very probably more — but I won’t get into why I believe that.
>As opposed to informing Joshua’s wife, primarily freak out about her own career if his wife goes public.
>Have unprotected sex with me like 12 freaking hours after cheating on me with her boss.

I miss the salt generated when Lee released Go Set a Watchmen, the redpill to Mockingbird's bluepill

While with Eron she slept with no less than 5 other men while claiming that sleeping with someone else during a relationship without the consent of your partner was akin to rape. Hence 5 Guys. The meme has been upgraded to 5 Guys Murder and Lies with this suicide though.

>Furry
>Pedophile
>Furry pedophile
>Pedophile furry
You will get a dose of Vitamin Lead

>I knew he was abusive the whole time, but I need him to get money for doing nothing so I said nothing

Have sex (with furry toddlers).

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He was as good as dead the moment he jammed his fingers up our queen's perfect, previously virgin asshole.

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It's literally the same as being a /pol/tard and /pol/tards are annoying as fuck.

that's not even that much, when you see these Twitter types always divide their posts by days since sign up date.

I've seen some that have like 2.3 tweets an hour every hour (assuming they never slept ever) for 6+ years. it's fucking insane they're all mentally ill it's no wonder they mistake this shit for the real world.

There's nothing wrong with being a furry pedophile who advocates for the genocide of Jews and blacks.

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I laughed hard when I read that. I like Night in the Woods but it loses a lot of its appeal knowing how fucking weak sensitive mentally disabled pussies the devs are.

I can respect people who work for a living. I can't respect some rich fat "socialist" spouting about how he got panic attacks because he almost had to work a full-time job for once in his disgusting life.

>being a furry
If you believe you're an animal, why shouldn't people be allowed legally hunt you down?

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Sounds like borderline personality disorder desu. I'm no shrink, but I've dealt with crazy bitches like this before. It's just lie after lie inbetween fucked up mind games with cunts like that.

Danielle is hilarious. Vinny's interviews with Ed and Danielle are all hilarious. Ed and Tommy are the only indie devs I can stand to listen to for longer than 10 seconds.

In my personal opinion, 6 hour work days should be the cut off for office jobs. In reality I've worked 12 hour labor shifts back to back before. I'm not gonna bitch about it on twitter, especially right after MY FRIEND KILLED HIMSELF

I mean this is basically just like Epstein if Epstein had actually killed himself, yeah.

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>if your gamedev friends are people who would drop you because you post on Yea Forums or have right wing opinions then you need to find better gamedev friends
this is the part that makes me angry though. I've known some of these people for almost 15 years and I've watched as this social media mind parasite cult has indoctrinated them
it really is just a goddamn cult, I know people say it as an exaggeration but it's the best word I can come up with to describe it. imagine telling a extremely religious friend that you don't think god is real. I'd rather just go on keeping my mouth shut about sensitive topics, it's just not worth it, especially after I saw how derek threw alec under the bus so easily when I always assumed they were close friends

Well damn dude, like what if thats all she wanted and she finally accomplished it, so she deleted her twitter account and then moved on with her life.

I'm still waiting to see Alec's alternatives to suicide.

Because it seems like there werent any. He was cornered. She outplayed him. It was a brilliant checkmate. Anything he could say would be turned against him. Everyone important enough was in her team. Even a half of his own brain was in her team. What were the options?

>have non dev friends for more than 10 years
>always a little rocky, can't explain it
>get into game dev and other hobbies
>they basically tell me to shut up whenever I get excited and tell them stuff
>I've been single for a long time, they have revolving door girlfriends and somehow make fun of me for being a virgin
>thing happens and I need their support
>they say they have better things to do and just go to parties
>finally broke contact with them months ago
>have never genuinely felt happier in my life
If this happened to me, they would have turned.

Why doesn't Zoe get arrested for manslaughter? Hell it should be murder because we all know the guy probably got killed.

>everyone but my Yea Forums Nazi friends and I think it's a cult, we must be right!
Well, uh, okay.

youre wrong. every time you keep your mouth shut you corrupt yourself. it doesnt even have anything to do with them. people think by speaking and if you arent speaking your thoughts out, subjecting them to scrutiny by other people, revising them, etc, youre not actually thinking. you dont have to do it on twitter either. but dont hide your thoughts because youre only doing yourself a disservice

Reminds me of the wholesome version of chad and virgin being friends and chad making time to hang out.

Are you also a slav?
This would be a wonderful combo of bullet-magnet traits.

believe me, none of them were chads

How did you know user?

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I doubt Alec had any relatives caring to push investigation forward.

>In my personal opinion, 6 hour work days should be the cut off for office jobs
Heck, IMO management should set deadlines and as long as those deadlines are met it shouldn't matter how long people are in the office. If I can do my job to the satisfaction of the business in two hours, why should I be punished with either boredom, or more work? It's not like promotions or raises are actually based on performance.

I expected a polack, but russian makes more sense now that I think about it.

alright faggot, I'll bite, at what time did I ever even claim to be /pol/ or conservative in general
here's your (You) though
plus you were in such a rush to write your witty little bait that the sentence doesn't even make sense lol

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yeah I agree. But theres a difference between putting a case forward for such things and being an utter bitch about temporarily having to work less than even full time hours

Absolutely, no disagreement from me here.

What a nut

how can you fap to this

Night in the woods is a neat experience where you set yourself in the place of shit confused kitty, not a kid anymore but not quite an adult.
It can resonate with you if you ever had this coming of age era where you didn't understand some important things.
The game is basically walking everyday and talking to everyone, seeing how the story develops and how characters go by their daily activities.
There are a couple of fun minigames, (Some of which are ultra mini games) but the heart of the game lies in the conversations and cute story.

If you get triggered by homosexuals this game is not for you.

call your parents

BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER: NOT EVEN ONCE

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Read the full thing, this bitch thinks she's a Naruto villain

Work with people who don't give a fuck. Get a different job. Wait for it to blow over.

...

Dude, now real world mistakes this shit for justice.

Is Twitter becoming an IRL Death Note?

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Nothing wrong with being a furry

>Jon Blow is the only indie dev I can stand to listen to for longer than 10 hours

Fixed.

Aw shit I forgot about Jon Blow. He's really cool. Derek Yu is actually pretty good, too, he just never does interviews or talks and tries to stay out of the limelight, like Hopoo and Moppin. There's something about Asian indie devs, they make great games but keep to themselves.

>basically exactly what happened to alec except he was way more successful than me and was way more into the SJW shit so I wouldn't even get articles or twitter threads, just blocked and ghosted

This right here. I have so much shit I'd love to say but I also run a community where I am and am afraid of getting myself and my community ostracized by the media because I want to say how fucking stupid all of this bullshit it. I'm not even close to being anywhere part of their "indie darlings" bullshit clique and am forced to step around it verbally. Feel powerless, feelsbadman.

>my first sexual experience was with a BPD chick
>made my live a living hell until I cut off al contact with her
I still live in fear that she'll come back and fuck my world up something feirce one day. I just know she will. Seeing shit like this, and how these psycho bitches have all kinds of people wrapped around their finger is terrifying. There's no winning with them.

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The problem is no matter what you say, somebody's gonna get mad. Even if you say you hate SJW's, then the alt-right and /pol/ types are gonna think you're on there side. And as soon as you point out that they're a bunch of faggots, too, you have two groups of crazies yelling at you.

Just look at what happened to thunderf00t.

Yes indeed

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Start writing names faggot.

Who?

WHO?

source?

Anonymous

I feel for you, user. I wasted four years of my life on a BPD chick. I didn't even get to fuck her, but the constant toying and mindgames and "I'd much rather be with you but I can't" bullshit was too much for my little 19 year old brain to handle.

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why those 2?

Makes sense how she is in the comics industry.

well i'll be damned

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>play HLD
>oh this was pretty fun
>credits roll
>special thanks to Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn
>and kanye west
???

Ha! Do you really expect that to w

Zoe Quinn tested the game or something. Because she's a "gamedev"

I guess that could work if he wasn't brainwashed by leftists, but since he was: No, there's zero people who don't give a fuck, just some 4nazis who don't count.

And different job is not an option at this point of career. Different job will be in different life, anyway. So, onwards to the new life.

Waiting... could work, if he had any caring relatives.

What are those weird comics? They clearly come from someone disturbed

exactly, it's incredibly frustrating but the only way to win is to not play and not say shit, but only encourages those loud assholes that their voice is the only one that 'matters'. also wish people would focus on fucking development and not this dumb drama bullshit. but who knew GDC would be such a backroom orgy. maybe I was too busy doing pitch decks in marriot meeting rooms and spending time in between resting off my jetlag to really notice

look at Brandon fucking Boyer, he's still doing IGF work in the backend, doing game projects, and he's legitimately done some bad shit but he's 'fine', we all forgot about him. same with nick robinson.

this is the only place I feel comfortable talking about any of this, I love you guys

I had to cut my game dev group because they were siding with Zoe. I feel you brudder. Can't cancel talent. Can't cancel my passion.

She doesn't mention rape. She only called him out on implied abusive behavior and tiptoed around the whole reason she agreed to take a one way flight to a secluded canadian home to live with him for a few months in the first place.

fuck off faggots. if you can only voice your opinions anonymously youre no better than any of these people. youre little pussies with no backbone that will get walked over in life and not stand up for yourself because youre weak. people like you are pathetic and why the indie scene is so pathetically embarrassing when it comes to these issues

wheres your game

False flag, do not reply!

store.steampowered.com/app/760330/BYTEPATH/ here

Lol loud blowhards like you are the ones who never make it because you don't know how to play the game. You can be as loud and obnoxious as you want once you've made it, but until then you're just pissing in the wind because nobody gives a shit about you until you've done something worth giving a shit about.

This is all presumptuous boogyman shit that ignores the fact that he died just two days after rock bottom. There's no story of "disgraced indie dev dies trying to get back in industry". It's dumb.

The only solution is to perfect artificial wombs and sexbot technology, neutering the feminine menace before excising this tumor from out species entirely. Only then will we be able to enter the golden age of the waifu technocracy. Be ready for war, anons. This change will not come easily.

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>epstein
>dead
lol

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Thats what I keep saying. To make the decision to kill yourself after sleeping on it like one time is insane. Thats something you do out of fear, not guilt. Guilt eats slowly.

Wow you sure showed Zoe Quinn, look at how powerful your reach is!

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see . it has nothing to do with what other people think or how they react to what you say. if youre censoring yourself youre corrupting yourself. thats just how i view it

Then WHY all the indie devs in Twitter keep talking about him like he was a rapist?

and you're absolutely right, what do you think we should do then? what would YOU do? its hard enough getting funding or publishing without contacts and 'clean' online public image, it's a small industry. at the end of the day publishers/investors want to work with people who are the least amount of hassle to get their investment back. they only give a shit about making money, and unstable people who don't know how to keep their mouth shut are a bad investment. it's why all these indie kids can only resort to crowdfunding/kickstarters.

there's a very very fine line between being a "pussy" and being professional. and usually 9 times out of 10, if people aren't sure most people WILL choose being a "pussy" to stay on the side of looking professional. my issue is those who are publicly on the side of "social justice" to increase their positive online image for networking purposes. it's why all this even started in the first place right?

True, he's prob chilling with trump and the clintons right now laughing.

>Those boxes sure are HEAVY on the bottom, but it's OK, I like to FORK HEAVY BOTTOMS
>*puts on sunglasses and smirks*

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>can't even read the text in the blurry-ass screencap
You might as well claim that she admitted to having eight private planes she uses to drop bombs on orphanages

GDC is rubbish nowadays. Jon Blow said he'll never attend it after his 2012's lecture. Today he's visiting Russian/Chinese conferences like DevGAMM, etc.

>a literal nobody deciding to not voice an opinion that no one cares about is censoring himself

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did he not feel paaaAAAAin when he was huuUUUUurt? i mean, i mean, i mean, i mean, did he not SHIT? did he not drEErs?

he was only human, but yes he was chicki'n and waffles. and i fail to believe that the world can profit from a man's dick.

each and every one of you should be REALLY ashamed of yourselves.

don't listen to this guy, he's a host of the virus, that's not him talking

>retarded shit like "believe women"
How enlightened. How centrist.

I remember seeing shit like That Party and some of the dumb hipster bullshit that goes on and realized, "this isn't about game development anymore is it"

It's not infectious! Hug your nearest catgirl and you'll see there is nothing to fear!

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the internet allows for individuals to reach customers directly. i released my game and had to speak with 0 people at valve and plan to do the same for the next one. youre probably way more successful than me so you need more resources to make your games, but from my perspective i want to do things myself as much as i can and only partner up with people who wouldnt drop me as soon as i say the wrong thing on fucking twitter. its not like doing that is impossible or even that much harder

dilate

That shit is exactly how people like Phil Fish or Alec cope with seemingly insurmountable problems.

What part of his ppst gave any indication that he was far right? Hot tip, people you disagree with are not automatically fascists. I know it's hard to grasp for people with your... limited cognative function but do please try to keep up.

it's a lot of pressure, more resources means bigger production value means more risk, and just getting really really sick of the people I have to put on a face for and deal with. but it's what I signed up for, and fuck bitching and moaning then I'm probably quitting the industry after this one

And maybe it has and getting #metoo'd made it worse.

Join us user

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Non-autists can see correlations and implications and can read between the words.
In this case, combination of approval of pedophilia, combined with seeing imaginary "SJW echo chambers" filled with millenials, is a sure proof of him being a far righter. Simply because those beliefs only coexist in far righters.

I could dissect it more, but since you're angry at me already, no amount of facts will convince you. The more uncomfortable truth I give to you, the more you'll dig yourself in in your simplified autistic worldviews.

what the fuck is "self-imaging" about?

You type like I did when I was posting in gogaia when I was 10.

Only women can make use of Twitter Death Note's special powers, sorry user

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Woman ends at 10 sexual partners.
After that, it's just a slag.

It's also the language of enlightened centrists and liberals who enjoy typifying anything vaguely liberal as some all encompassing leftist safe space trigger warning culture that they love to juxtapose themselves above.

Even if that absoute retardation of a train of thought were to be true, I don't think anyone will be buying Night in the Woods after the devs kicked the guy who killed himself out of the studio without even giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I mean, why the fuck would I give money to people who just abandons their friends in their biggest time of need like that?

Exactly what I meant by him being cornered. Or only feeling cornered. That's pure fear. Of a clueless child.

the two worst places on the internet are, thats great

Were you dropped on your head as a child? Re-read that blokes post and tell me where in anything he said he condones pedophilia. Is it right around the part he condemns Epsteins actions? You're a dead set mongoloid.

>Simply because those beliefs only coexist in far righters.
You're delusional.

I guessed that he's a pedo based on the fact that he posted a frame of a cartoon enjoyed by pedo furries. Then he confirmed it in his reply.
You autistic retard.

It's possible they really didn't want to work with him. Maybe he was an ass to them too. Didn't the sister say that he had talked to them too and they parted ways on good terms?

How does the guy keep finding work then?

He's talented and dedicated enough. Even other men said he's hard to deal with and will threaten suicide. He's known for emotional blackmail and probably had BPD himself.

Yeah but like, just cut the contract. THis isn't fucking hard.
t. dev who had to cut deals with fucking weirdos.

He probably contributed a lot. Some people are hard to replace.

Well, he has powerfull "hard skills", but not so much for "soft skills". Those goys (artists/designers/writers) have negligible hard skills, so they need him to make anything playable. They can perfectly live with his unstabilities (coz most of them are even worse coworkers), but not when theres such stigma as rape.

>Well,
Why start a sentence like this?

Emotionally abusive = not a perfect providor or a perfect chad depending on what she needs at the current moment

And they did just that. There was no monetary issues, actually. It's only the wording and the public momentum that made Alec think the entire world hates him.

Yiik is bad in almost every aspect of the game period, only certain parts are laughably bad and the rest is just boring or annoying. Nitw is furry bait made for college dropout/burnouts, but has good music and a neat artstyle, its story doesn't really go anywhere too great and it ends in an anticlimatic way that still leaves a lot of open ends, they most likely will never give closure to it since they seemed to have cancelled the project.

There's men saying he would threaten suicide just after knowing a male peer for two weeks. He's emotionally abusive to more than just Zoe.

Fair enough. Celeste dev is still a dogpiler with no integrity.

Well, I just like pausiing.

I hate these anime tranneis so much.

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I wouldn't call that abuse if its just an acquaintance, just emotional blackmail. If he did that to me, I wouldn't just scoff and turn my nose, I'd try and find some help for the guy. I've had to do this kind of thing before, its not like its unheard of. All these people saying he was always threatening suicide as if its supposed to pain Alec bad. It just makes these sycophants look heartless.

I like them, they're cute and innocent.

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>Celeste
Overrated junk with zero innovation.

That sounds like being a complete fucking nutcase more than abuse.

How is emotional blackmail not emotional abuse? You're emotionally hurting someone.

"me time". Focusing on what your ideal sense of self should be. She's borderline off her rocker and working at fixing it.

If hes the type of guy to regularly throw out suicide threats chances are everyone got used to it after he never actually did it. First time I'll try to get you help, but if I hear you've done several times you're on your own that's just trying to control people.

Yeah but fleas and crabs are. Get the hell away from me and go jump in a flea dip.

>It just makes these sycophants look heartless.
No, it makes it look like Alec will hold himself hostage to get what he wants. That shit fucking hurts people and most people are decent enough to never do that to people.

>No, it makes it look like Alec will hold himself hostage to get what he wants.
what made this time so different?

That's what the #metoo movement is all about.

literally who?
where are the videogames?

Typical women behavior, if you ask me. Zoe bitch does this on a daily basis.

zoe killed them all

Public momentum.

IIRC that Scott scumbag even mentioned this manipulative nature of Alec in his Kickstarter post before the death.

Zoe threatens suicide every day? Source? I know a lot of women and out of the four people who I've personally known who ever threatened suicide, three of them are men.

put :orig at the end of the twitter filename

If there's one good thing ot come out of all of this, it's warning aspiring indie devs away from ever associating with these fucked up little cliques in that whole scene, if they're paying any amount of attention to this shit. Such a fucked up group of creepy fucked up people.

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His guilt. People like him can hardly stand criticism and often use the threat of suicide to deflect.

Not suicide in particular, but pretending to be a victim or a hostage in general.

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Won't happen, everyone will forget the story in 1 month.

That's non-sequitur. "Holding yourself hostage" pertains to threatening suicide, demanding certain things from people and trying to hold them accountable for your actions and hurt them into doing what you want.

too fast for guilt

Rape confirmed then?

Yes, he killed himself so the people who fired him without a proper investigation could make more money. That makes total sense.

Catgirls:
>make cute drawings
>loved by their cisgendered bfs
>aesthetic flag

Inceloids:
>lazy wojak edits
>hated by everyone, rape their hands regularly
>le autistic windmill

How so? He's been living with what he did for years. It's not like he did it two days ago and then killed himself.

>living with the guilt of being kinda weird with a woman
>everyone saying this was his normal life for years
nah dude. It straight up is like that. Zoe mentioned it and he saw his life crumble by the hour

My point: it's all about passive agression. And women resort to it more often, in my experience.

>Catgirls making the art
It's the same incels who fantasize about traps making them. Only it's the talented ones.

It can be, but nutcases more often just do it. Someone who turns it into a long and drawn out thing knows they earn themselves some sort is capital with it.

Noone fired him. People just made him a public enemy for no reason other than him being typical asshole dev.

So even when faced with a man having a reputation for threatening suicide even among male coworkers you still make this about Zoe and what you assume she does because she's a woman. What's that have to do with what Alec did to people?

That's a ridiculous nerf world standard. By that standard you can emotionally abuse muslims by refusing sharia law. Particularly if it's an accurate description of his mental state. Considering he seems to be dead from suicide, seeing it as an accurate description of his mental state at certain points seems to be reasonable.

Either that, or the person is an emotionally unstable wreck, which I think applies here. Or both.

If anything, the fact that Alec was a passive-agressive adept makes me think he couldn't rape anyone - that would be out of character for such pussie. It seems much more likely that he was the same weakling asshole to zoe back when they were dating. Note she never called it a rape, only using vague words like "degrading", etc. So yeah, she exaggerated all the way to his death.

if by "Epstein'd himself" you mean faking your own suicide then entering witness protection sponsored by the Clinton foundation and getting dropped off on your private island

then it's quite unlikely

as someone who made the rounds on the English grad students in college, the English dept of any college is going to be a collection of the worst, most maladjusted people among a body of people who are predisposed to histrionics anyway

i have no friends and barely any family. so iam safe

Baba yaga...

>she exaggerated
>she didn't call it rape
You're really making this up as you go.

BTW, if I were throwing suicide threats and then my friend Scotty dared me (by mentioning how often I did it during coworking), that would totally trigger the suicide. So, man, where's the police?

Did she?
OK, source?

where is the original text that zoe posted

How is "if you criticize me I'm going to kill myself" the same as "parts of your religious system breaks the law"?

She didn't call it rape, but rape would have been the exaggeration.

Here's another food for thought: from my experience, if he really was as abusive and heartless as people are claiming, people like this tend to not feel bad about what they did, they don't feel guilty, they don't feel anything because they're literal sociopathic assholes. Thus, the "he suicided out of guilt" argument doesn't really hold up. This is actually one of the reasons nobody believed Epstein committed suicide.

It's short term vs. long term with his death. Sure, with him dead that's one less scumbag in the world but he could have been used to pin the even bigger scumbags he knew about.

>Is it possible he Epstein'd himself for publicity purposes?
>I had never heard of Night in the Woods until now
>475+ replies
Outstanding haul!

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Quite simply based

Umm he wasn't going to be charged with shit. He was going to be ostracized from indie development, but did it really matter? Just live off that game's royalties, and make your own solo games or whatever.

Personally I'm not arguing that Alec probably sometimes used various passive agressive traits on people, though to a much smaller extent than the likes of zoe and other drama queens do.

But he never raped enyone, nor did he kidnap anyone or anything else similar.
Yet he was witch-hunted as if he did that.

THAT is unjust, disproportionate and unfair. It must not be forgotten.

I'm not saying he's heartless. It's possible that he feels guilty and he wants others to feel guilty too.

Also I didn't hear anyone say Epstein killed himself out of guilt on MSM. The more common narrative was that he didn't want to spend the rest of his days being raped to death in prison.

>Chud
what?

>kill yourself for publicity

This thread is fucking stupid

What's he gonna spend all that money on now?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN KILL YOURSELF FOR PUBLICITY

THATS LIKE KILLING YOURSELF FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FUCK YOU IDIOT

IDK lad. a few very successful games came out of here. It was a few years back and they mostly stayed out of here after finding mainstream success, though.

It was very big deal to him. And zoe knew that.

No one even used the word kidnapping or rape. It's like you're trying to stick it to a group of imaginary people. He was accused of emotional and physical abuse and Zoe also mentions how she felt isolated by him. No formal charges or strong language is used.

It's been a fun ride replying to you and seeing how often you'd change the subject to arrive at the conclusion you want.

You didn't bother to read it, do you really think those (other) dumb cunts did?

>I had never heard of Night in the Woods until now
That's because you are a tourist who doesn't immerse yourself with gaming as a hobby.

Oh now you're just playing dumb.
Literally everyone was implying rape or similar charges, that's what the entire meetoo club is about.

Slacktisivsts aren't normal.

>mfw some brazilian kid got pound me too death noted

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>No one even used the word kidnapping or rape
He's being accused of kidnapping because he threatened to kill himself and wouldn't buy crusty cunt a flight back home

>if you don't buy a hole a ticket, it's kidnapping
>if you don't fund hole's contraceptives, you're trying to take control over her body
>if you don't want to give a hole a position she's not qualified for, that's sexism
Clown world

He spent two days helping out other people, yeah right. More like two days brainstorming with Adam and Bekah from Finji, their publisher, how best to spin this to not look like awful, terrible people.

>if anything i can take from this is that unlike most other people he backed out after only 2 weeks, instead of staying around and suffering with the guy for years
That's because Edmund is big dick energy.

Move to Russia. They have a law allowing wifebeating.

Only one way to get rich.

Fuck no, russia is even MORE cucked than burgerland
>highest hole CEO percentage in the world
>male suicide rate multiple times higher than in the west
>if a hole shrieks, horde of white knights with knives lynches you before the police even gets to discard the case because they weren't bribed enough to care
There is cucked, there is more cucked, there is Sweden, then there is russia.

Huh, then you're relatively lucky one, pal.

Wonder how the other Night In The Woods team members who cut ties with him IMMEDIATELY feel lel. They should look around and realize they have no friends. Not one. Nobody in the world will stand beside them during their darkest hour. And why is that?

Well, noone has such friends, so what?

New thread

I hope you’re joking user.

>lack of pushback and defense from people who knew him
Yeah I'm sure the people he knew were just begging to have their own lives ruined