Fuck gachaniggers, go back to /vg/

Gacha and other "games as a service" shit is truly the first time I've felt way too old for this hobby. Have absolutely no interest in any of it and don't understand my friends who have literally spent hundreds of $$$ on it

>Everyday but not today
>Every day
>not today
Was it autism?

Some addict will open 5000 boxes and I don't have to pay a penny to the company running the game. No monthly fee, no 200 dollar game disguised as a 60 dollar one because of DLC. The game updates with is basically free dlc and I don't have to be a moral fag paying more money to protect some retard from boxes. How could Gacha games create so much pure seethe?

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>twitter post
And this person's opinion is relevant how?

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>t. wasteful and undisciplined

if you can't spend money responsibly you should have it taken away. If that's a commie ideology then sign me the fuck up

its a twitter tranny, so you should give xer your full attention

>spend $0 on a phone game I play every once in a while
>this guy spent thousands of dollars to have his dick cut off so he can pretend to be a girl
How am I the one with the problem again?

>nintendo IP releases a gacha (pokemon)
>suddenly gacha is fine

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These people are retarded. Paid gacha sucks because gacha sucks, but paid gacha is significantly better than no paid gacha because it's fuckin guaranteed and you don't have to end up in debt to the yakuza like a lunatic.
How the fuck can anyone complain about a paid gacha when microtransactions fucking infest games and these same cunts not only ignore it but defend it

No

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It's the future you (whales) chose, now suffer.

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>literal nobody twitter post thread

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>one person spending their own money irresponsibly
vs
>one person spending an entire country's money irresponsibly

>hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people spending their money irresponsibly and on things that don't matter
vs.
>government deciding to funnel resources to what actually matters, like good infrastructure and hospitals

Ohhh i get it, you're a libertarian. Lemme know how your ideology works out when you're in a chinese slave camp in ~20 yrs

the state of anti-gacha anons today. Wew

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gatcha would be acceptable if you could directly buy and sell on a marketplace ala most lookbox games by volvo

How did that work for Venezuela?

unpaid gacha is not healthy either

It already happened before with Fire Emblem. Pokemon is just making things worse because it's 1000x more popular.

OP speaks the truth

This is now a gacha thread. Post your gacha waifu!

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>vg is moving so fast now because of gacha shit forcing every general to bump or risk 404
Gacha board when?

>gacha
>ga cha
>got ya

b-bros...

whats wrong with not spending user?

youtube.com/watch?v=HeIkk6Yo0s8&t=23s

LITERALLY
WHO
AND
LITERALLY
WHO
CARES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

All this time and i'm still not entirely sure what a gacha game even is

What's the gameplay like? What do you do?

yes. you dumb nigger.

Gameplay varies, but all of them feature character or item collection through RNG. Some people like them for that collectionist feel

Make me faggot

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>No one is discussing gatcha today faggot

what about the daily "play her game" bait threads where retards just try to find excuses to post their waifufag shit because that's all there is to gacha "games"

Yeah, which is why you gamble fake money.

.t someone who is barely making rent so he can roll on phone jpgs

>Support factual garbage
>More garbage is produced and less good things happen, AND the consumer has less buying power as a whole.
It's bad for everyone.

>spending money on thing I don't like
>that's bad

>spending money on thing I like
>that's good

>people upset I'm spending money on thing I like
>HOW DARE THEY!

If you get upset about lootcrates and gatcha, you have to accept you're wasting time on video games.

>go back to /vg/
More like go back to Yea Forums

>but I enjoy self deprecation at the expense of others
Kill you'reself

You've played their game, right?

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For me it's WA2000.

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You know what is healthy/normal? Obsessing over gachafags

>but I enjoy self deprecation at the expense of others

What are you even saying?

>he sees gambling with literally zero potential monetary gain as a productive exercise
What are you even saying?

youtube.com/watch?v=1F_YouLpBgE
This is Gacha.
You get a few for free and then have to grind your life away or pay money. The "game" underneath varies between a very shallow RPG, card battles, and ARPG garbage.

do nintendo fans even have opinions or do they just repeat the company talking points/fan-crowd-sourced justifications?

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There is so much wrong with that body.

>masturbate to free porn of gachashit while cucks try to justify spending their money or "playing" mobile "games" for the sake of jpgs
How does it feel knowing that your waifu has thousands of images of her getting dicked, gachacucks?

How is buying electronic pixels for video games any different, or buying video games in general any different?

Yep

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Shut the fuck up, Haida.

good, more fap material

why do all these high fantasy JP games look exactly the same?

Yep

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What's with all the gacha threads today? Is some lucklet seething because he rolled for something and didn't get it?

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I'm pretty sure that you missed normalfags sperging about most petty shit on game.

Like currency being tracked.

>FAL
>Armalite Rifle

Is my wife's game, Index IF any good?

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Guys, please stop liking things that I dislike. It makes me really really really angry.

if someone is spending money in a way that demonstrably harms other people, he needs to be stopped.
And spending money on gacha demonstrably harms games in general, so yes, you must be stopped

Remember that time when Yea Forums would shit on any kind of mobile games? I kinda miss those times.

yeahnah fuck off i don't take advice from trannies

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The future is now old man, some gachas have anons genuinely liking them.

Ruria is so beautiful.

You're not buying electronic pixels you fucking idiot, you are gambling. When I buy a game, I am buying a game. When I buy a DLC, I am buying a DLC. When I spend money on a gamble at a chance for a pixelated waifu, I am gambling.

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Old phone games were bad. Now some are pretty okay

like guns
like anime titties
simply as

it's not gambling though learn words before using them

I got two accounts at very top of feh most competitive gamemode as f2p multiple tons and quit just before 3h came out

*dabs on /feg/*

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Surely you have something more productive you could be doing than what you are doing right now.

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I think that goes for everyone that is currently on this website, user

same could be said for you silly willy now fuck off

Says the guy obsessing over what strangers on the Internet do. Classic.

Because you willingly play shitty games

good call, I could be cunnyposting right now

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>Tfw I have three gacha games that I haven't spent a penny on
>Still have a bunch of super rare shit
>Found ways to break these games over my knee with cheap shit even if I didn't
Lucklets and naysayers can die mad about it.

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It's coming gun bros youtube.com/watch?v=qroB9XE_MxE

steam sales is the same. most users dont even look into the contents and just buy a bunch of them.

gacha is shit but you cant force users to stop it, also you should blame garbage money grubbing companies like valve, epic, snoy etc.

>Can't even propose to a fucking Raccoon
Kill yourself, Haida.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>When I buy a game, I am buying electronic pixels.

>nobody get mad at dlc anymore
>nobody get mad at micro transaction anymore
>GET MAD AT GACHA
what do you think will happens in few more years?
nobody gonna cares

You actually know what you're getting, and it tends to be more substantial.
I could get a massive game or a really good short one for $10. Gachafags pay that for a chance at a JPEG.

>mentally ill gachafags
ftfy

There are no good video games.

>Gachashit bait thread about to die
>Make another one right away

How sad.

To think i'd see a day where Yea Forums complains about people discussing videogames

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Post scat

Studies have shown its basically a tax on the dumb if unregulated.

It's free

don't have any lgfs who sing in a jazz band, sorry

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>people can't have opinions different from me

This happens in every thread involving gacha, where have you been?

and that's a problem because?

i tend not to browse gacha threads since they don't really post about the gacha i play

but they're both jpegs, and worth nothing.
They're both bad habits, but you'd be upset if someone told you what to spend your money on either way right?

In the same manner we restrain autistics sperging out from self abuse.
Gacharetards should be stopped from overspending on jpegs.

post it

I understand those people exist. Lootboxes adversely effect my own experience, and they are impossible to completely ignore in most games. I disagree with the sentiment that cosmetics are somehow separate from game design. I'm not subscribed to yongyea.

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Is the person you're posting relevant to the video game industry?

didn't know people still played the bleach gacha

>Just vote with your wallet bro

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Post your favorite gacha

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it's genuinely really depressing seeing trannies attempt to convince themselves that paid genital mutilation is a healthy and normal procedure

It's not super popular but it still makes them bank and they recently released manga aizen

I’m liking these event maps

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New event soon

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I bought an FGO figure for about $140, but I've never spent any money on a gatcha. Does this make me as bad as gatcha people or worse?

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>guaranteed product vs actual gambling is the same thing
???

paid gacha meaning you can only pull on it if you bought summoning currency with real world money?
If that's the case then I mostly agree but gacha games are fun and, aside from those banners, I don't really see a problem with them

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That makes you trashy and retarded but not as bad as gatcha players

>A video game is a jpeg
A video game is a system. I'm paying for everything, not a picture.

Good

Stop trying to reason with gambling addicts.

it's not gambling though

you bought a beautiful piece of art

You're right, it's even worse because it's gambling where you lose your money no matter what.

what's with all these shitty twitter screenshots and phoneposter filename threads today
I guess /pol/ is raiding again

but it's not gambling user

Porn addicts ridiculing gacha addicts

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It would be a convincing argument if you actually got to play a game instead of a jpg simulator.

I spend my money at strip clubs these days. It feels more rewarding to actually have tits pressed up against my face during a lapdance than look at shitty animation from a phone game.

you wasted your time, in a way thats worse than wasting money

Thanks user. Going to have to hide it in the closet until I get a solo living environment.

>not a picture.
you're paying for moving pictures.

Battle Cats is the only acceptable gacha.
It doesn't even need
>anime_girl.png
to lure you in

Furfag retard

just like any other vidya?

It's max appeal, it makes fucking money.

play Dragalia Lost
that is all

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If he is a good libertarian in 20 years he would be skiing in Andorra or sunbathing in Bermuda while you share your house with 20 hobbos and your elected politician of choice runs away to Andorra or Bermuda with your money, "comrade".

>they lost the music rights after a single year and had to make everything instrumental.
Fucking lmao

Play Azur lane

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Once you've tasted most of the gachas around the market you will understand why Azur Lane is so liked and the players have long term engagement.

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So you don't know what gambling is

Essex is a top cute but she wasn't enough to keep me playing, sadly

The real question is:
Having thousands of games, all of fantastic quality, freely available and right at his disposal in an absurd variety of devices, why does the gachanigger decide to stick with the most basic, trite, free to play bullshit? Because even retro games have cuter girls than the usual gachashit, if the only thing they're interested in is that.
You literally have a lifetime's worth of outright 10/10 titles right at the palm of your hands with any device you pick up, games that range from simple to complex and all demanding, well made and incredibly polished, why the fuck would you slave away at stamina timers, grind slow combat systems and auto away mindless resources instead, just to get enough of the free bullshit gambling money to waste it all twice a year, at best, lest ye be a whale?

I literally can't understand the gachafaggot's brain. "Pick up and play:)))" isn't even an excuse considering literally EVERY single game nowadays is easily picked up and play for small bursts anywhere you please thanks to the magic of savestates.
You could be actually experiencing new art right now, and civilizing yourself with works that actually demand expertise and mastery in their mechanics. You could be learning a new language. You could be doing literally anything with your free time, yet you decide to chain yourself to the most bitch basic, mindless and easily consumable piece of modern culture, or at least one in the lower tiers of actual value. And you waste HOURS in this shit weekly, since these hellish applications outright demand you to do so by design.
Why? Seriously, why? I touched one gacha game for about 6 months and never again I'm falling for it.

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Azur Lane or Girls Frontline?
I know more about guns than ships. No mobile game has stuck to me yet

cute brat

>rolled this bitch
>won't stfu about some other bitch
wtf I thought these girls were supposed to love me and me only

GFL if you're a /k/ regular

>why are the Jews winning?

Gambling for money means you can get richer.
Gambling for static "characters" in a shitty game worse than free flash shit from 2001 doesn't make sense.

its just you believe in that "guarantee ". its a fucking subjective matter. objectively if you ended up not playing any of them it practically means you gambled due to the dirt cheap prices.

in the case you just bought the cheap price tags. not games. the sale makes you addictive like that. theres a bunch of fags who end up not playing them. they just believe they "own" games and feel good. they however get nothing other than banners on their game lists. they are the same easy targets as gacha users.

your disdain for gacha is simply your bad experience or view on the games that come to mind when speaking of "gacha"
gacha doesnt have to be a ruthless grind like Granblue Fantasy, a boring game like Fire Emblem Heroes or a very greedy game like FGO
you have Girls Frontline, Azur Lane, Dragalia Lost, between a lot of other fun mobile gacha games that dont hold you hostage with sunk fallacy and let you play the game at your own pace
sometimes, games can be fun

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I play other games too though

Although I have no problem with gacha games, I think people should stop supporting gacha games that have an autoplay function
At that point what would even be the point of playing?

I'm not I just have more off hand knowledge about guns than ships
I heard Azur Lane has better girls/system

I personally like GFL better but it all really comes down to which game has more girls that you prefer. No harm in giving them both a fair try

plz play deragaria rosuto we are close to the first year anniversary

>girls/system
debatable, for me both games are good on their own accord, although GFL requires being a bit more mindful on your resources because you can hit a wall.

Both games give out rolls very freely, AL has 3 a day, GFL gives 5. AL is this side scroll shooter, while GFL is a strategy game that requires more team optimization to beat maps like

Play Magia Record

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Faggot

Yea that's what I think I was worried about but like other user said I can try both so I'll try Azur Lane
Thanks guys

Based

MMOs and online shooters/fighting games are basically $60 gacha too though so they don't count
and most gachaniggers are wagies anyways

>Assuming everyone spends thousands on Steam sales and lets games sit
I'm one of the responsible ones who buy a few games each sale and actually play them, usually to the end of the main campaign. If I don't like it, I go and get a refund.

The difference is they know what they're buying and they will 100% own that game in their steam library forever. You're spending loads of money rolling for the chance of a .png. Not just a .PNG, but A CHANCE of a a .png. It's infinitely worse than Steam Sales.

imagine actually being a gachanigger

>You're spending loads of money rolling for the chance of a .png. Not just a .PNG, but A CHANCE of a a .png. It's infinitely worse than Steam Sales.
not him but, i'm not spending anything though

>SPENDING MONEY ON GACHA
>EVER
seriously, the games price themselves out of reach for anyone with sense anyway when a 10-spin costs nearly as much as buying a real game

No.

what gachas are hackable? I enjoyed hacking let it die (before it died).

Its always so satisfying to suddenly have "trillions" worth of a fake in game currency by modifying a few lines of code.

Feh is fun though retard.

You guys sound like you think everyone playing gacha games play to spend money on them.

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This is some cucked posting.

keep seething lucklet

>actually spending money on gacha

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I am. It's okay.
it's just FGO but less polished in a few ways and with megucas

I’m of two minds about it. On the one hand, I don’t think people need to be “saved from themselves”. If you’re enough of a retard to spend $2000 on Fire Emblem waifu jpegs then that’s on you. It’s not really immoral to for a company to sell people what they want to buy, even if what they want to buy is inane shit.

In the other hand, the success of these shitty mechanics in the mobile market has seen them slowly creep into console and PC gaming. That’s something I’m strongly against because it means the games that I actually play are getting worse. Overall, the rise of mobile gaming has had nothing but negative effects on the quality of games as a whole.

My proposed solution would be to make any game with micro transactions or gambling mechanics receive an 18+ rating. That way little kids would stop getting scammed, and most companies would probably abandon this business model because it would no longer be profitable since they would lose a big proportion of their userbase. People who still wanted access to these kind of games could still get them, they’d just be rated 18+.

>he isnt high IQ enough to play a gacha game without spending money
learn some self-discipline, you retards
maybe you can start by trying to stop yourself from shitposting for 5 minutes

if you're not spending money you're spending time, that's how these games work
have fun slaving away for weekly missions, daily logins and event bullshit to unlock half a 10 roll every 2 weeks
you literally can't act smug, you're pathetic addicts wasting away something they will never get back in the most disposable shit ever, all that effort will vanish once the company goes broke and the servers close, how does that make you feel? all your super special pngs you grinded years for, gone? lmao
fucking retards

>Do the exact same thing as gambling.
>Remove cash payout.
>Add worthless consolation prizes.
>"TOTALLY NOT GAMBLING!"
If it was that easy, we'd have "not gambling" parlors that give you lollipops.

Some people enjoy grinding, though. Stop throwing a tantrum over people enjoying things that you don't

if given the choice between doing something effortless and applying oneself, people largely will pick the effortless option
especially if the effortless option is its own self-sustaining feedback loop while the one that requires you to apply yourself ends up causing you to stop it once you hit a roadblock

That’s like saying you download and play virtual slot machines with no actual gambling.

>wow I get to watch the symbols spin around on screen for free! I’m really gaming the system

>if you're not spending money you're spending time
just like...regular games? you can lose all your data too, and sometimes you don't even revisit your old games or rarely do it, it's a moot point

Wow I thought you guys were just meme hating but this guy seems to be actually upset

Same to you gachacuck

>Smart enough to not pay
>Stupid enough to play anyway
You could have more fun emulating games.

so you spent hours of your time on mindless grinding instead of actually playing the game
here's a hint: there's plenty of games out there with better gameplay that doesn't require hitting your head against a wall for 5 hours before it lets you play

>stopping when you hit a roadblock in any activity
That’s when shit gets good

>FEH is fun though
sure is fun to go through 4 different kinds of arena, a pointless raid, a bunch of boring grind with no end goal to it because the only good challenges in the game are GHB and Legendary hero battles. make sure to roll for all those alts of your favorite fates characters!
how so? never spent money on a single gacha and never will

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>clicking through 2 menus once a day is "slaving away"
Oh shit nigger what are you doing

Virtual slot machines are actually fun and don't make you grind, that's a bad analogy.
youtu.be/0LCO7zBexLw

yeah he spent hours of his time doing [thing] instead of [other thing]. wow, just wow

Mad

Sure, for now.

All you guys getting mad in a thread that you don't like could be spending your valuable time in actual threads that you like :)

even if you don't pay of a Gacha game, you're still contributing to the death of gaming by setting up an environment where whales can be the big fish by spending money
if all free or minimal investment players leave a game, so do the whales because even they don't like playing with nothing but other whales

What kind of idiot plays this shit?

I thought it was looked down on, yet every day i see threads with tons of posts discussing the best ones, gacha waifus etc, ya'll are fuckin up.

that sounds like typical mmo rpg players kek

But you know what yongyea is.
For me, I dont know what that is so that makes me better than you

>Dragila lost fag retard
Why I'm I not surprised.

just sit and enjoy, Yea Forums boomers are getting Blown the Fuck out this week for being too sanctimonious about gacha games, it's hilarious

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>I just spent 5 hours licking battery acid, my time was just as well spent as the guy who spent 5 hours having fun at a party

Seethe, gachafag.

To be fair, these guys thought they’d be shitting on Gachas from the OP, but then found out it got taken over

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>Virtual slot machines are actually fun
How? There’s no strategy. There’s no challenge. You just sit there mashing the A button and watching images spin on screen. It’s barely even a game at that point. Might as well watch the DVD player logo bounce around waiting for it to hit the corners at that point.

That analogy doesn't make any sense. Apply yourself next time please

>Some people enjoy grinding, though
and there are games where your grinding isn't a simple conditioning feedback loop and has an actual endgoal, or a number of goals that give you some purpose
you can spend 500 hours in LUCT and each of those hours will not only have some short and long term value, but it will nonetheless stay engaging and thoroughly challenging throughout, the opposite of mindless
why play a gacha game when you can play LUCT or FFT?
in regular games grinding isn't a mindless task you do in order to just gamble though?
>he thinks i'm talking about dailies
though yes, the fact you spend 3 minutes daily sitting through the login, the news screen, mission tab and the two stupid shit you need to do just to get your stupid stamina shit is in a way slaving away
i'm talking about event missions and goals, the decent rewards for the gambling currency are by design locked behind those so the devs can pretend there's player engagement to shareholders and easily give numbers
imagine actually making money for the yellow chink out of your own volition just because you're a gambling addict but your monthly tugboat doesn't give you more than $200 to sink on the gacha so you need to grind

yeh, but with added factor that they literally can never catch up

>the death of the gaming industry
Who actually cares about that on Yea Forums, most of us pirate anyways.

That is true, but you are still misinterpreting my character.

>They actually have a /vg/ thread
I don't know about you, but... yikes.

So what's the difference between playing a gacha and an MMO?
Same shit applies (i.e. spending time to grind levels and equipments, collect weapon and armor transmogs in case of modern MMOs etc.)
Even in single player games once you complete the game you abandon it and essentially lose all the progress that you've made.
>But at least I had fun playing and finishing the game
Same thing for MMO and gacha games, as long as you have fun and feel satisfied it's a time well spent.

If you actually value your time then you should spend it working to earn more money or studying to improve your skills, but then again once your life ends everything you grinded in your life is gone too, so what's the point, right?

Given that time is the most valuable resource that anybody has, yeah, it’s pretty stupid to waste it when you could be doing something more interesting. Many people spend dozens tens of thousands of dollars just to extend their life by a few years.

Are my fellow gunfuckers ready for the rate up this weekend?

I played FEH for 2 years and never put money on it, dropped it recently after Lost Lore was announced, after putting up with its shit for far too long, some people have better self control user
we have your Marth hostage, give us Tiki and ill think about letting him go
im not letting him go btw

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>in regular games grinding isn't a mindless task you do in order to just gamble though?
please re-evaluate your statement, you clearly lack enough experience on video game genres and titles to be spouting such kind of ignorance.
On the other hand, given the length of your reply it seems that you're really over sensitive about this, perhaps, autism?

Do i defend it? no, Do I like my pngs? yes

at least it isn't a smash or cyberpunk thread

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Yep

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most mmo's don't have the entire skill factor negated by whoever spent most money
they also tend to actually have relatively impressive worlds instead of just a jpegs

>he pays BIG money for JPEG image files depicting prepubescent girls wearing skimpy clothes in a chinese cartoon style

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sounds pretty based to me

Flawed logic. People complaining here think that Gacha shit is a waste of time because there are better games that you could play instead. That doesn’t mean that they don’t enjoy talking shit about Gacha. For your argument to work there would have to be better threads on Yea Forums, which is debatably not the case.

>So what's the difference between playing a gacha and an MMO?
both are shit and are just as bad but at least MMOs have gameplay
what, did you think that was a positive comparison and MMOs are a good point of reference or something? f2p gacha is the evolution of those trashy early/mid2000s korean MMOs with cash shops for whales
>but then again once your life ends everything you grinded in your life is gone too, so what's the point, right?
wow so you just discovered babby's first existential crisis and exactly why man birthed culture and reproduces beyond natural necessity
holy shit

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>he pays
who is he?

>most mmo's don't have the entire skill factor negated by whoever spent most money
Neither does the gachashit that I play

that shitty "make good games" bs cant help devs tho lol
if gaymers are still saying that shit they really have no idea whats going on in the industry.

gacha and lootbox are shit but some video game companies will go bankrupt if all of them are regulated.

>he thinks there is only one
last I checked fate has like three different generals because of some bullshit version differences
HARPOON THE WHALES
VIDYA WAR NOW

>>government deciding to funnel resources to what actually matters,

Oh yes, there is absolutely NO WAY politicians would be corrupted by spending everyone's money

(You)

this man is correct.

lollipops have something resembling cash value though

Sure. For now.

not to mention that checking this thread occasionally requires very little additional time investment if you're already on Yea Forums
if posting here required 3 hours of solving captchas then yes, it would be similar to gacha

i don't though, why are you assuming that?

????
in literally RNG dominated games like disgaea grinding is still about more than mindlessly pulling a lever for no reason other than high numbers, since power creep exists in all gacha anyways so whales can comfortably rule
like, even in games like the previously mentioned disgaea or fuck even MMOs all grinding serves some meta purpose that blends with the actual game content to give you both short and long term goals, not just get pretty anime girl and grind next event for more currency and other bullshit to gamble for anime girl
no, seriously, you cry ignorance but what did you even mean by that? because I'm totally fucking lost, name a game so badly designed all your actions literally serve no purpose and are inherently random just to shit on you, help me see your pov

sorry user, its not happening

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But it's fun

That would need to be seen.

gambling is addictive and designed to be that way
gambling is propped up by people who throw lots of their money into it
people who spend thousands of dollars on gambling are addicted

wrong

Point is as long as you enjoy your hobbies and have fun with it, then there's no point in being ashamed of it (unless it's extremely degenerate I guess), and there's no point in shaming others who has a different hobby than yours.
But if it makes you feel better that you think you have the "superior" hobby then more power to you I guess.

I can’t believe Yea Forums claims to care about other’s spending!

cant see what wont happen user!

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Sorry for your wallet then.

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>unless it's extremely degenerate I guess
You mean like spending thousands of dollars on low res pictures of anime girls?

Woah user quit pirating Gacha lute. Whales have gotta pay big money to look at anime chicks. You’re stealing from the pockets of the poor innocent game developers.

Why should I care about the whales when I'm perfectly fine here just playing the game as a F2P player?
It helps me that they're the ones supporting the game(s) that I like to play while I spend nothing on the game, I'm basically pirating the game while also receiving the same in-game perks as the whales.

I must admit its hard to control myself from getting Daemon X Machina and Astral Chain this month after getting Three Houses, but my wallet will never cry about gacha!

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Your brain must be "" big if you can't understand the appeal of pick-up-and-play

fair enough, my POV is the following: Gacha games (not all of them of course, just like regular games), do have polished content in order to keep the players engaged, you won't get long term sustainability if it's extremely midless, circular and unrewarding, i mean, it IS already circular and sometimes unrewarding in occasions but people (like me) play to discover the content and `experience the game`, i'm defending the strong points of polished gacha games like FGO, GBF, Epic 7 which are praised for quality, no game is flawless as we both know and unlike playing a bad (regular) game and then dropping it or begrudgingly finishing it one just stop playing because these game have no ending for convenient reasons.
In other words, i hate this notion of "old-Yea Forums" that all gacha games have subpar content and/or are outright bad, they shit on the whole product instead of praising the positive.
Most "gachafags" on Yea Forums are self aware enough and know the `potential` sink hole in which they're getting too, but it's in order to Experience the content, which is the point of every game made, So ultimately gacha fags will always praise the good things of each game and denounce the bad things and if ever anybody defends gambling is most likely bait and you fell for it. Regular games aren't much different in "meaning". That's my point of view, and these threads popping up lately is to make fun of the mindless retard that hate everything because it exists, so much for the Analytical INTJs of Yea Forums.

As long aa you don't become a statistic.

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>jUsT a JpG
Yeah let's just ignore all the sprite work, animation, voice acting, sound effects, 3d models, etc

If Yea Forums hates gacha players so much, then why don't they just make one and profit off all the "idiots" who will spend hundreds on some waifu .jpgs and laugh at them directly for making an easy profit for them?

does it look like i know what a jpeg is?

the way you talk about old Yea Forums makes it abundantly clear that gacha fags are abominations that only heard of this place in 2016

>How?
Did you not open the video?
Sometimes just roleplaying as a big shot in a casino can be fun and relaxing. Not every game has to be difficult.

I wish I was only on this website for three years

that's why i put it between quotation marks, they like to think they're the "old-Yea Forums" i cannot generalize. but it seems you lack perception.

I hate this mentality
and I hate to break it to you, but the world isn't as simple as you think it is
your spending is directly affecting the market and development of my hobby, whether you like it or not, and each dollar, each hour, each second you spend playing a mindless skinner box with none of the things that make the video games special in the first place is directly affecting my interest in the vidya, killing smaller projects that could've flourished and outright just making shit worse for everyone involved
you might be an individual but every action you take in life has consequences that affect not only you, but your surroundings and your environment, and in modern society where and how you decide to spend your money and time is possibly the most relevant of those actions
you, as the consumer, shape the culture and world that surrounds you, you and the whole at once
please stop acting as a teenager and deal with life, and the fact you're making things worse for everyone else by just existing and fuck off

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aye fair enough

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Because you have an artificial wall they don't.

Am I a dolphin if I spent 15 dollars a month on gacha?

Marina!

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user what the fuck are you even saying

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Keep getting angry at things you have no power over I guess

gacha literally only affects triple A games and mobile games you braindead mong.

Sucks to be you buddy

No I've been playing games long enough to realize that gacha games, even disregarding everything else, have sub-par gameplay compared to even other F2P games
I can think of dozens of old flash games that are superior in gameplay to any gacha

Marina is cute, I wish some IP's didnt die and got brought back after a period of time

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no

>ANY gacha game
bold statement, feel free to elaborate, and other anons might get on you later.

Don't toss stones with a glass house.

You're right but that kind of long term thinking is way too intelligent for gachacucks to understand.

>he spends time on (something that's fun for him but I think it's a waste of time) he should rather do something (that he doesn't like but I think it's worth the time)
Just let people do what they like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys.

God, this is so cringy to read. Go outside, fag.
And get hit by a fucking truck.

If you think that it's so important to stop gachashit then I hope you are actually doing something valuable and not just whining like a little faggot on the internet to people who don't give a shit

>it affects my enjoyment of video games
Why the fuck should I care what happens to the hobby of some neckbeard?

>you won't get long term sustainability if it's extremely midless, circular and unrewarding
lol
all games you mentioned are those 3 things
gacha keeps you addicted by the good old sunk cost fallacy and the addiction of the skinner box, you're not getting anything else outside exponentially growing numbers and shittily written short stories with each update or new event
and no, these aren't quality products, especially if you compare them to equivalents in other mediums that don't involve being free to play conditioning treadmills

I can’t believe hating Gachas have made you this mentally ill

twitter screencap posters > gachafags

you're not really gambling though, you are buying a character in a game that is non transferable. It has no real monetary value.

So Gacha is the thing you like most in the world? Your favourite video game is Gacha? You’d rather spend time playing the Fire Emblem mobile game than one of the 15 or so more fleshed out Fire Emblems?

Valve started this (not exactly but more prominently), it was set on stone this was going to be the standard from that moment onward, it's true that the only way to fight it is to not play these games, but you just can't say NO to everything just because you hate one aspects, even less try to force your point of view on others.
I'll not defend the predatory monetization of gacha games but i'll applaud what they do right.
You alone are nobody.

Bold, but true
there are several old flash games, which were distributed for free, that had engaging and creative game loops to a degree I've yet to see in any mobile gacha game
add onto that the grind requirements and yes, it is incredibly safe to save that there are dozens of completely free old flash games that are superior to them

It really is literally the same shit gambling exploits but with titties, its fucking vile and just breeds mindless addiction, there is literally nothing else to it MOST OF THEM LET YOU FUCKING AUTOBATTLE FOR FUCK SAKE

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except the only thing that actually matters in a game is the game play, and gacha is a glistening void of good gameplay.

you'd be better off watching anime if you want

I am not going to whip out my switch to play the newest FE during downtime during my work.
I can do a fast round of the game on my phone though.

Dude I saw a fucking DBZ dokkan or whatever it's called thread earlier, just a few hours ago.
Yea Forums IS unironically discussing this shit.

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>press one button
>game begins to play itself
>all you do is manage items like a shop keeper.

Holy fuck, they used to actually make games for phones. Talk shit about Fruit Ninja, Doodle Jump and Angry Birds all you want at least they are fucking bona fide games.

>these aren't quality products
highly subjective, please go and make a thread of a highly regarded game, everyone will reduce the game to the absurd because of some aspect they didn't like.
>gacha keeps you addicted by the good old sunk cost fallacy and the addiction of the skinner box
not everyone is "you" or me or whoever you are referring to.

>It's no longer DAILY GACHA but HOURLY GACHA now
I'm impressed.

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You know there are GBA and SNES emulators for phones, right?

>>press one button
>>game begins to play itself
>>all you do is manage items like a shop keeper.
What game is this?

>but i'll applaud what they do right
and what DO they do right?
because even regular content updates can be seen as a negative under the right perspective (aka what do you mean I need something as volatile as an internet connection to play these games?)

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Some Gachas have things people like to discuss

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I played Azur Lane for 5 months, and spent about $130 total on it. That's $25 a month, for 60-80 hours of entertainment per month. I don't find that unreasonable at all. I don't play any gacha games right now, maybe you should get the stick out of your ass and let people enjoy games they want to.

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Most recently Pokemon Master but a lot of Gacha have auto modes or people use scripts to auto mate the "game play" because the "game play" is literally just pressing a button without thinking

Please list ONE Gacha game that, in your opinion, is one of the top 100 greatest games ever made.

give examples then, lets see if we can critically agree on this "true" statement. Although this is already a major goalpost shift, i encourage you to proceed and provide these examples.

Potion maker?

FGO

>60-80 hours of "entertainment"

You mean a mindless task that keeps your mind off wanting to kill yourself every waking second right?

I don't believe for a second someone who is looking to have some fun goes "oh I might install a gacha game" when you have so many better options.

Pretty much every Japanese mobile game ever. I see salary men playing these kind of games on the train all the fucking time. You just select your characters from a menu and then watch them do “cool” battle animations with no player interaction.

It's fucking trash

Civ5 provides hundreds of hours of entertainment for under 20 bucks so over 100 for 80 hours is pretty bad.

Yes and I like playing those game while I am lying comfy in my bed and know that I can atleast spend a few hours without interruption.
Short sessions are for phone games only.

not even a third of the VN turkeyhandle or fate/stay in the kitchen were
maybe try not being a secondary and instead at least play 100 games first, including other VNs

>used to play GO religiously
>get some new books, vidya and a new PC
>stop play regularly and just do daily quests whenever I'm bored
>summer nobu doesn't show up after 500 (free) quartz
>barely remember to do daily logins anymore
I'm pretty sure I'm only doing the daily logins due to a sunken cost fallacy kind of deal. I spent a bunch of time on this game so now I feel like it would all go to waste if I unnistaled, but fuck me if the gameplay isn't trash and since I don't plan on wasting money on this when I can buy cool vidya and books instead. One day I'll pull the trigger on removing the app

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dumb monki

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What if I bought Civ 5 on launch

Mobile emulators autosave when you close the app so it’s very easy to play a short session of say, Sacred Stones, when sitting on the toilet or during any other down time.

They really don't give a shit. If you've ever been to a gacha general, they just have their equivalent of console wars. They've got so many choices as well with Japan, South Korea, and China all in on gacha shit these days. Some people have already compared them to MMOs and they're not too far off. FGO is the new thing to chase in terms of success instead of WoW. Helps that it's way cheaper and easier to maintain gachas.

auto modes are usually a thing you can only do once the content is trivial for you, its basically a skip function, more games should have it or skips

Pretty much every Gacha fag is caught in the sunken cost fallacy. They just need to uninstall that shit and delete their account.

It's not worth anything. I don't give a fuck how many good/cute units you have the game play fucking stinks and you are wasting your time.

Innovating generes, optimizing certain systems and getting away some rudimentary mechanics that non-gacha games can benefit incorporating, JRPGs prime and most prominent examples, visual, musical quality, sometimes making memorable short stories, you have to be very jaded, cynical and obtuse to downplay everything there is over something.
Right gacha games are not stellar overall no one, not even -most- players deny it, but they still can have content that is memorable and/or is executed properly.

>Short sessions are for phone games only.
no they're not
a lot of even SNES games are designed with the mentality that you can play them 10-15 minutes at a time if you really want to, savestates only make that easier
AND you're getting far more quality content overall during each of those sessions

So a glorified jpg? And nice Reddit meme you fucking child.

It's not fun to play a GBA game for five minutes at a time dude, your argument is trash.

I play dragalia lost but actually agree with this. I NEVER pay for gacha. I have spent money on guaranteed characters twice, and then only with money I got from google opinion rewards. When I see people talk about how much money they spend to get a character I fucking vomit. It's so stupid.

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even then the actual content is usually a trivial grind that doesn't require have any engaging game play and solely consists of "press this button to do the attack to kill the guy to get the item to make your guy stronger to do this same thing over and over again a thousand times"

Then you wasted your money like an idiot because everyone knows civ games only get good after a couple of expansions

>Sprite work
You mean either chibi bullshit where every character looks the same except hair color like in Fire emblem heroes or the Adobe flash sprites of fate grand order?
>Animation
Yes because those flat textures being animated like someone's first newgrounds animation is a huge deal.
>Voice acting
In Japanese they either are gruff old man or gay young man and ecks dee extremely high pitched voice of an adult trying to sound young or le ebin Ara Ara
In English you have equal cancer.
>sound effects
hahaha
>3D models
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>etc.
Gameplay is always ass. Always. "Keep touching that part of your smartphone when it glows to perform a super attack. Now do that 100 times more so you can get "

I haven't spent a penny on gacha, I just think it's comfy, like growing a chia pet or raising a reptile.

>top 100 greatest games ever made.
under what criteria? for example, these are the best game ever made and everything you say is invalid.

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you're not playing gacha games for 5 minutes at a time either, though, at least not if you're actually playing what's supposed to be the game
but you can easily grind up a map or two in FFTA while taking a shit or beat a small mission in astro boy with the time and you'll actually be engaged in it, unlike with the usual gacha grind

Go fetch a bone doggo

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I'm glad I quit drag ages ago because I'm dead certain I would've ragequit after getting fucked out of bikini Celery

>important dialogue coming up
>"oh I have to go now, let's just close this fast and boot it up a later time, who needs immersion"
Why would I want to play like that?

>Pretty much every Gacha fag is caught in the sunken cost fallacy.
i'm not though, who is "every"?

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>"press this button to do the attack to kill the guy to get the item to make your guy stronger to do this same thing over and over again a thousand times"
that's literally 99% of games except you have the illusion of movement
>trivial grind
some of the hardest gacha fights like fgo challenge ones or gfl extreme maps make rpgs look like a joke

Under your criteria, moron. That’s why I asked “in your opinion”.

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mainly people with max level accounts, they don't want to leave because they think they have achieved something of worth.

Really they are just trapped in a Skinner Box and are totally conditioned into "ohh man next multi I will get the unit that will make me want to continue living and get rid of that helium canister"

Ey, if it works it works.

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>paid gacha
That's literally what defines gacha. It's dumb as hell but there's nothing morally wrong with it. Retards want to spend money on that shit so let them, it's a free market

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say what you will about the quality but this all of those
youtube.com/watch?v=0aEv2713Gi4

>that's literally 99% of games except you have the illusion of movement

You're a fucking retard if you think that is true.

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So you’re telling me there is no “important dialogue” in shit like FGO? That makes even less sense for why people play it. The gameplay isn’t good. According to you, there is no story. The graphics certainly aren’t a selling point. What is there?

What if you just grinded your way to max level? I went through War Thunder’s grind to top tier tanks, and compared to that, no gacha can reach that level of grinding.

i can safely say Granblue has a lot good mechanics that might set a precedent on future games, and a story that might not be stellar but it's compelling enough to follow, i would put it around rank 50 of the top of my head.

I have no idea what "gacha" is, but it's really interesting to see those words coming from a guy who thinks he's a woman.

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>today
It shouldn't be discussed at all.

>It's the same as in other games
It's not. Other games require you to do much much more shit or the location where you do the shit is always varied.

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>furfag can’t help but strawman

A "gambling-lite" mechanic that is extremely addictive because you are experiencing operant conditioning

It's not a game it's just a slot machine with a "game" tacked on to make it legal

Play more games

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>you have to be very jaded, cynical and obtuse to downplay everything there is over something
quality takes time and nothing outside unpolished concepts can be born from the rush of having to shit out something once every 2 weeks or otherwise your game dies
you can compare franchises that have actual entries that went through an actual production process, including polish, and their newer gacha shit to realize just how badly the normal schedule hurts the games in the first place
it's not being jaded, it's judging products for their quality, and if you've had actual exposure to both sides you'd realize just how lacking literally all gachashit is
compare FGO's mess of a script to F/SN
compare the writing in idolmaster starlight stage to idolmaster 2
etc

Who is the hardest to obtain character in FGO?

What do you mean? I just open up and grind some maps. No need to pick the missions with story

most singleplayer games are exactly like that, might as well be on rails.

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what you said doesn't matter in the end mostly subjective and it's evident by the fact of your lack of substantial argument, beating a dead horse.

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people are trying to help autists like you who have fell for the gacha scam

So... just like in games like FTA, FE:SS or Pokémon where you aren’t forced to engage with the story if you just wanted to do some quick grinding?

puzzle games? grand strategy games? card games? point and click games? multiplayer games? racing games? simulators?

are you a fucking potato? how are you typing?

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He does ask her out and she flat out rejected him. Finish the show, fool.

Is the dead horse a metaphor for your taste in video games and your dignity as a human being?

Why would I want to grind in those games? I'll just overlevel and steamroll everything later.

getting any unit to maximum power requires 5x of the same unit so you need to roll 1/100, 5 times.

Actually i'm pretty sure the chances are even lower then 1/100 but even then the chances are absurd and only intense whales can manage

I will continue to play Gachas without paying a cent for them.

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>puzzle games?
>grand strategy games?
>point and click games?
>simulators?
dead
>card games
literally gacha now that dtcg are a thing
same with mp games with lootboxes out the ass
all these games give you the illusion of choice, you don't get to decide where to go you are forced essentially on rails to objectives, they barely require any skill and you can get through 99% of them with just holding left click

"dignity" has nothing to do with this, why are you trying to transform the "meaning" all of a sudden?

you're a straight up retard as I originally said. Go play some more F:GO you dumb cunt

I think Skadi is the rarest character right now since her only rate up was during the 2018 anniversary.

its genuinely really depressing seeing people posting twitter caps attempt to convince themselves that is healthy and normal

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Why are you seething so hard at someone you consider to be a retard? Shouldn't you consider them to not be worth your time? You sound actually upset because of a stranger on the Internet

Why would you want to grind in a Gacha game?

My god, these threads feel so good to read through.

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I could literally play a VN or any other jrpg and have the same amounts of cute girls and "action" packed. Hell, i could even self-insert in some harem anime

It's literally bad for the whole industry you fucking faggot.
No one would care if it was just you screwing yourself over with your bad spending habits like the retard you are, but what you're doing is influencing trends so that less good games get made, and more people go the lazy gacha route because faggots will eat it up.

deal with it lol

fair enough i can agree with it that, but that doesn't mean it has to downplay all the enjoyment it can provide to certain inviduals for their certain merits, it's true, there are similar things more polished than most gacha games around, but that doesn't mean certain content inside a gacha game isn't enjoyable for its own merit, your "policing" of what's good and bad it's what makes people react and make these threads constantly, just like other topics heavily shitposted on Yea Forums. Nobody wants to be bossed around for what they enjoy and being reminded of the bad things they already are aware.

>you're a straight up retard as I originally said.
nice counterargument user
i'm sorry that your "games" are actually just skinnerboxes too

Based, but trannies will still be seething

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guys stop having different opinions from me it is making me mad

Because you need it there for progression?

post your top 100, big boy, lets see your shit taste too.

Got her. I just googled that shit lmao.

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I feel the same way about people who spend budgeted money every month on buying the liquid jew but I don't complain for likes and recognition on Twitter about it

to get stronger
its a permanent form of progression

Is that fun?

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They are, many also have gambling elements but the difference is some resemblance of game play actually exists. You know the thing that makes a game a game, and not something else :>

say something nice to my daughter

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Major anti-gachafag ass raping ITT, incredible

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>Yea Forums users can't even come up with their own arguments or statements anymore.
>All their opinions come from twitter.
This place gets worse every year.

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These threads are always a treat to read

I've seen whales gambling on stream. They look dead inside and when they get the roll they desire they barely even react. Their eyes look dark grey and you just have a feeling they wish they were somewhere else. (the universe of their favorite gacha is where their actual eyes lie)

But wouldn't you rather play a shitty jrpg where you first have to roll for a new girl? Then you have to roll her 4 more times to fully unlock all her skills and dialogue?

nice but can she do this?
youtube.com/watch?v=RXc1nRoh0hU
that user is just baiting you don't need duplicates

Congratulations user!

I didn’t realize people cared so damn much over these waifu collectors. We need to have more of these threads

people got like 300 sqs before her rateup, so I doubt it

it wasnt so hard to get her, the gacha system suffered some changes, like removal of wyrmprints, increase of rates and even free summon events
wyrmprints are now available drops on levels and to buy with Elwater on the shop

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She looks like munki. She cute.

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>some resemblance of game play actually exists
most gachas are just jrpgs, if you think jrpgs don't have gameplay then you are a brainlet sorry

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rolling for waifus is an outdated model anyways desu. The current strategy is to make the characters easier to get but harder to level up and fully max out.

I would like to see this figure hot-glued.

I honestly believe Gacha games are made to wear out phones and their batteries. They eat up so much fucking power playing some trash animation that no one is even watching because you've already seen it 100+ times.

I think phone companies push these games to wear out their hardware and get extra sales on new and better phones.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY PEOPLE THEY WANT YOU TO COOK YOUR PHONE ALIVE PLAYING SHITTY ANIMATIONS SO YOU ARE FORCED TO GO BUY ANOTHER FUCKING PHONE

They aren't hard or engaging they are just grindy. Also I love your argument because I actually agree, YOU SHOULD GO PLAY A JRPG INSTEAD OF A SHIT GACHA GAME.

>jpg simulator
Maybe for those who play japshit games. But I'm playing a full fledged MMO.

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TFW epic seven which is a gacha game and had a major backlash recently is doing better than any of EA "gacha" game.

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Best Divine General list
Munki>Chicky>Sheep>Piggy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Slime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Doggo

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when you drop the
>"i have fun with it"
>"i know the downsides and i won't be stepping on them"
>"i know it's not spectacular but it keeps me going"
>"don't generalize on me"
you basically owned the discussion, they tiny heads explode in confusion, much like the NPCs they so much like to label on other people.

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Gacha games are just for something to click on while you do other stuff and gradually feel more powerful as you unlock dupes/more characters to get your damage done on a world boss higher bit by bit. They're basically glorified cookie clicker games.

I don't get how anyone could fathom spending money on them. I play Destiny Child and it's like, 60$ USD for a "pass" which basically gets you a skin and a 5-star child. It's worthless.

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>it wasnt so hard to get her
For someone with adequate luck maybe, and not getting a 4* unit on rate up in 8 10-pulls is not what I would call adequate luck

/Thread
VNFags continue to seethe over fgo.

>paying for porn

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>hates lootboxes in western games
>defends eastern gacha games
It's like a mutation of yellow fever.

you might be joking, but i legit also think similar, i don't play any games on my phone for that case and just use emulators.

Accept your Kengoknotto doggo overlord.

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>They aren't hard or engaging they are just grindy.
you keep saying this, but anyone that's actually played them know its the opposite
even basic ass shit like fgo is harder than most of the casualized western rpgs
youtube.com/watch?v=LeudYGrNjtc

its okay user, I got the current 5* from the gacha and not the 4* cute girl, these things come with time
also summer Cellery is permanent on the gacha poll

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Epic Seven is quickly becoming one of the worst gacha games on the market. Rates aren't good and the grinding is pretty insane.

>hates lootboxes in western games
yes
>defends eastern gacha games
no, who are you quoting?

>YOU SHOULD GO PLAY A JRPG INSTEAD OF A SHIT GACHA GAME.
stand alone jrpgs are shit and offer no long term progression

Go away Doggo, Munki boss here.

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I finished that travesty called Fate and literally only the final battle has any resemblance of a challenge.

I hate to admit this because I wasted so much time on a game that is truly, truly fucking awful.

Yeah, they kinda won.

rude

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I don't even play western games

games as a service was a mistake and "long term progression" is a lie developers sell you to make more money off their whales.

in fact the best part of JRPGs should be the story, and the most important part of any good story is the plot and conclusion. The fact JRPGs end is a massive point in their favour. They may be long awful grind fests but eventually you are fucking DONE. COMPLETE.

people don't want that though because they get attached to characters that don't even exist and they get sad they won't have any more adventures

When smashfags shut the fuck up, gacha can be addressed.
Not before, faggot.

-t speed reader
it was so well liked camelot got a anime and babylon is getting a movie

This but I don't mind gachacucks.
I'm not the brightest person around so knowing that there's a tremendous amount of subhumans below me on the intellect ladder "playing" mobile phone slot machine makes me feel good

Shoo, shoo.

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What's wrong with gacha?

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if you want story you should read a book, any "game" that focuses on story is bad

nice falseflag bro

I'm not gonna judge what you enjoy and think you're somehow beneath me just because I don't understand the appeal. Grow up.

People will have you believe you’re killing the gaming industry if you do much as just download a gacha

If I wanted to read I would pick up a book. Comic book, Manga or novel.

All of these have incredible artistic works that will stay though the test of time, where gacha games will eventually be quickly forgotten.

Gacha games just give fan service to whales who have becomes obsessed with characters. The ethical thing to do would be to tell them "her story is told, the adventure is over. MOVE ON."

*easily

>Seething gachaniggers get so angry over getting continuously btfo in every thread that they have to resort to dumping images to try and drown out their ass pain.
But no, you're "winning" lmao. As if you aren't already the laughing stock of this entire board. I always love these threads as there's no other way to feel such superiority over random posters on an image board. Keep it up.

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>the hairdryer with the food, open drink, and other electronics
At least you're on the way out. A dying man can say what he wants.

nooooooooo im a laughing stock on an anonymous imageboard nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I like Skateboarding, it's an actual activity that you can progress in. It's not embarrassing when people find out I like it because it's actually a cool and interesting hobby.

Collecting JPGS of under age girls is a lame pedo hobby for fucking weebs. Shameless.

>kiseki
Haha, as expected of a westfag.

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>this level of cope
>losing an argument and then doing revisionism.
archiving this thread so i can make fun of you LMAOOO

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FGO is so mindless literally everyone asks for an auto function and a better fast forward and the only reason the devs don't put it in is because they're lazy pieces of shit too comfortable with their own success
if you've ever played a JRPG in your life even Pokemon has more emergent choices and interesting gameplay than every single gacha game out there where the only thing that matters are the numbers of your team and your initial build, since the games are built from the ground up to be mindless so even actual retards can grasp them, and gameplay is never the main focus anyways
even things that come close to being actual games like bandori define a big part of their challenge on nothing but exponential numbers coming from cards that get power creeped every few weeks since that's the entire end goal of every one of these fucking games, to manipulate normal social instincts in order to get money from you

>giving a shit about what others think of the things that you enjoy

>pay 60$ and then add lootboxes? Fuck off
>f2p with lootboxes? Fine I’ll decide how much money the game is worth
Problem is that western games always try to double dip into your wallet

Nothing. I'm only my way home from work and I will spend my 4 hours on the computer playing gacha while watching a tv show. I could be playing a "real" game but I won't and it makes people here seethe

Do what you want on your time

you'll never be a real woman

there is nothing to feel superior about, gacha is just a way to pass time, why would someone ever put this over an actual game? they are just easy to pick and enjoy when youre doing nothing else

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>its not embarrassing when people find out you are a grown man who skateboards
cringe

Is it that hard to start a thread without a Twitter screencap from a literal who?

Munki rule thread now. Very happy.

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its from a tranny.

Beto made it cool again.
You want to be like Beto, right?

I hope that you're still a teenager

>The ethical thing to do would be to tell them "her story is told, the adventure is over. MOVE ON."
People seem to really hate that right now. Everything has to be some continuous universe or have tons of spin offs. People can't take episodic shows, let alone a small contained story.

>Play pokemon masters because Yea Forums started talking about it
>It's boring as shit
>People posting that they've maxed out several chracters already
>People are paying money for this gimped Pokemon shit
>Most likely the same people shitting on other retards for buying Sw/Sh

IT'S OKAY WHEN IT'S NINTENDO!

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>thinking that little water and a hairdryer could kill a grown men
Lmao

Fffffuuuuuuuccccckkkkk I really should go back to that game

>you keep saying this, but anyone that's actually played them know its the opposite
shut the fuck up shill, anyone who actually play fgo know it's easy as fuck, the only hard quest was nerofest last challenge that got reworked, period.
FGO is the most casual shit, the difficulty only comes down to surprise shit such as
>oh he debuffs me next break bar? ok then - reload quest
>oh he changes class next break bar? ok then - bring counter class in the backrow
>oh he charges and full NP next break bar? ok then - savescump round and uses merlin invuln
besides those surprise shit the gameplay is as casual as it gets, don't get me started on units that trivializes the "game"
Can't fathom that there's "people" who believe this shit is even remotely challenging, play more real games

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Girls think it's pretty cool.. I wonder what women think of Gacha.. Do they even play it?

anyone else play gacha while they play other games?
i have a little stand on my desk and i just tap it every now and then autoing missions in alchemist code is pretty comfy

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if you don't like skateboarders why are you talking like them?
>WOAH, BRAH! THAT'S TOTES CRINGE!

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Sadly there are people who just jump from gacha to gacha or run multiple at once. So they really are putting them over actual games or other forms of entertainment in general.

>Do they even play it?
You would be surprised, actually

statically yes they would since most mobile players are female

Right now they have CFYOW stark aaronerio and szylaporro

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im playing pokemon Masters, but I gotta admit you dont do much on the game, its really basic, but the free units are good enough that I have no urge to roll, and im taking my own pace till Hilda and Lana are added
The retards jumping the gun and spending money on this shit bragging about their Kris that I got from rerolling, shit is pretty funny to watch
If the Blue event actually lasts a month I might just quit tho

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I definitely feel this, I feel so morose when the end of a story is coming up and you know things are going to turn out bad for characters you like.

However when it's all over and done you feel clean.

>They keep doing it.
They're games for the lowest common denominator aka zoomers. It feels good to be so superior to gachaniggers who flip out over a new jpg they get fed.
I can guarantee you that FGO's writing so much worse than anything Nasu has written before. "It gets an anime" is not much of an accomplishment considering KC got an anime and that game literally has no story and is also garbage.

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A Twitteral who screen cap thread/post should be an automatic 1 month ban with no chance to appeal.

I don't even know what this thread is about but Fuck OP.

Munki will move thread to page 10 in a bit.

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and the sad part is fgo is harder than most if not all aaa garbage

real gacha = okay
digital gacha = literal cancer
game centered around gacha = ultimate giga aids

I always thought that gachashit was more of a boomer thing honestly

libertarianism doesn't make you rich, you're rich already and then shill it to take advantage of the useful idiot larpers that are the "real" libertarians.

>thinking bans matter
dumb newfag

Would anybody recommend me a new gacha game to play?

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>twitter screencap
Fucking underaged normalfags go back to ,reddit.

>Getting mad at other people's game preferences.
>Being a dumbass

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Probably in Japan, with salarymen. Not really the same elsewhere.

Something needs to be done. I'm sick and tied of Twitteral who posts.

its called learn to filter or grow a spine

it's more about being pissed off that some companies are so succesful just by preying on retarded whales that buying anything.

it's also being pissed off about what kind of message this sends to the industry:
this shit encourages others to do it too, and before you know it, we have an oversaturated market of gacha cancer, with more and more previosly fun devs selling their souls in hopes of making the next gacha goldmine

those aaa must really be the lowest of the low difficulty-wise then

Initiating Munki Magic...

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>I support monetary cons
One day the Jews will be kicked out of yet another country.

the alchemist code if you can stand rerolling

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>run multiple at once
I dont understand how people have time for running multiple at once, especially the ones who require a lot of time put into it like Granblue Fantasy and Fate/GO, or both
most of the answers I get is because they are too far into the sunk fallacy and cant get out of it, just get some help if you really wanna quit, its not hard
I thought Zoomers only played Fortnite on their phones

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Show me the magical filter that blocks any Twitter screen cap. Fuck off and die reddit shit.

"gachapon" is a word derived from a sound.
the sound is of a coin being deposited into a machine via a turning mechanism: "GACHA"
and a product falling out into the dispenser: "PON"

paid gacha is the only true gacha

dogs > bunnies

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This was one of the best threads I’ve seen in a long while! Hope to see you all again in the next mobile games/gacha thread!

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Paid gacha is no different than buying a special tin or box of trading cards that guarantees a high rarity card. If you want to go full F2P as some moral high ground, that's fine. But don't bitch that paid gacha exists when you contribute nothing to the continued development of the game. I imagine the person is talking about Pokemon Masters since almost everyone playing it seems to have never played any gacha before, but we don't even know how often they'll do it.
FGO does paid twice a year, Granblue does it once or twice a month but everyone knows that's a scam and instead wait 2-4 months for a ticket that gets you almost any character/summon you want.

youtube.com/watch?v=J-SUoHmpRdM
Born from an egg on a mountain top
The punkiest monkey that ever popped
He knew every magic trick under the sun
To tease the Gods
And everyone and have some fun
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
What a cocky saucy monkey this one is
All the Gods were angered
And they punished him
Until he was saved by a kindly priest
And that was the start
Of their pilgrimage west
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
With a little bit of monkey magic
There'll be fireworks tonight
With a little bit of monkey magic
Every thing will be all right
Born from an egg on a mountain top
The punkiest monkey that ever popped
He knew every magic trick under the sun
To tease the Gods
And everyone and have some fun
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic
Monkey magic, monkey magic

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>just get some help if you really wanna quit, its not hard
Just like gambling, it's psychologically addicting. I wonder if people will have to start going to therapy for gacha addictions like some do for gambling.

y-you too

goodbye fren

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Sounds like a movie or video game to me.

Spending money on entertainment is irresponsible?

Langrisser Mobile is a strategy RPG made out of the Langrisser/Warsong games. Plays pretty similarly to Der Langrisser (Warsong) on Sega Genesis. The RNG/lotto system is for heroes, but you get so many freebies it's kind of ridiculous. Haven't paid a dime, been playing all year, and it's just a lot of fun to me.There is PVP, so whaling lets you win that part of the game, but strategy and gear is more important than which hero you have, so you can free-to-play it real easy.

Final Fantasy Opera Omnia takes Final Fantasy characters from the ages, you build 3 man teams and complete turn based battles, get all the heroes for free, and RNG for their gear. You can play 100% free and remain completely in the meta for about 90% of the time. Highly recommend for a free-to-play gacha game. Haven't paid a dime and still keeping current (because it doesn't have PVP).

google operant conditioning, google the sunken cost fallacy

if you learn how you are being manipulated you can begin to fight back slowly. it's ju jitsu and you can learn how to realize you're being manipulated and prevent it.

There are better ways to spend your time that will bring your more peace and happiness. Renounce the corruption of anime tiddies and see the light.

Thing is, the games can be easy and still have good and entertaining gameplay, no need to be hard
fgo is easy AND the gameplay is just so casually brainded that they might aswell add autoplay for set up teams so that I can clear my events while doing something else
I don't think any fgofag need to be dishonest about this, the gameplay is pure trash but whatever this mobile phone application has other strenghts like the expanded lore of the nasuverse and entertaining storylines

cute monki

you're actually so fucking wrong because cards have real world value and can be traded. Gacha pulls have NO VALUE as accounts are NON TRANSFERABLE.

YOU CAN SELL RARE CARDS, YOU CAN'T SELL RARE UNITS.

tell that to all the multiboxed GFL accounts that ive sold, fag

There have already been stories about people spending thousands. Once I can remember off the top of my head was some guy dealing with his wife and house payments because of some Final Fantasy gacha.

That is against the rules and if caught the account will be suspended.

It also devalues your "pulls" completely if you don't take anti botting measures and let scripters run rampant.

anti-gacha tard status: obliterated

you don't even need to renounce anime tiddies
just learn japanese and play the thousands of amazing untranslated games throughout all gens with really sexy, cute and sometimes funny anime girls instead, it's far more rewarding and fulfilling to do that with your free time

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you can sell accounts though
-t whale

>if someone is spending money in a way that demonstrably harms other people, he needs to be stopped.
I don't see you fags moaned about this to trannies. Matter fact, you fuckwits even encouraged them.

>if caught
will never happen. also my sold accounts had nothing to do with individual pulls, but rather making a bunch of accounts to nab the limited guilty gear/blazblue units and selling them after the event was over and you couldnt get those characters anymore. botting had nothing to do with it

It's not real videogames and (Japanese) companies would rather make a quick buck from nostalgia or waifubait gacha than make the games people actually want.

>mobile games, bad!!!
>AAA recycling garbage, good!!

against ToS, you will get your account suspended.

compared to selling cards which is perfectly legal.

Good games with loot boxes actually allow you to trade the item you get. It has actual real world value opposed to a Gacha pull which has no value. (accounts are NON TRANSFERABLE)

>Bought JP FGO account on ebay for $5
>Get like 1000 Quartz which lets me have fun pulling for a few months
>Never actually play the game

I thought the argument was "you literally cannot gain monetary value from units", not the legality of it

>against ToS, you will get your account suspended.
only if you fucking post your sale on twitter and @ the devs lmao
remember its only illegal if you get caught

I mean any good gacha game worth it's salt would be banning bots and scripts and people who trade accounts because it devalues the hard work legitimate players put in.

Other games literally don't care and simply want to make as much money as possible on some bootleg sprites and code

>turns out you can make money off gachas
ANTI-GACHA FAGS BTFO

how are you meant to track when an account is sold? you can't

carlton are you by any chance carlton

You can, it's just difficult.

Personally I think the botters/scripters are a bigger problem. What's the actual point of playing legitimate if I could just use a script to grind all that shit while I'm at work?

>Other games literally don't care and simply want to make as much money as possible on some bootleg sprites and code
Isn't that all of them at this point after seeing those FGO reports?

I really doubt that these corporations aren't taking active measures against botters because they are directly affecting their profits getting good rolls off their scripted currency.

>You can, it's just difficult.
you really can't, its impossible to tell if someone just got a new phone or the account was traded
scripting/botting/cheating is a battle no one can win

Well one sure fire way to stop scripters is to DIRECTLY MESSAGE their account when they are playing. If they don't respond to the message that says "respond or you get banned" you ban them.

they tried that in gbf
doesn't work

Are you a retarded person?

why not?

if you're scripting chances are you aren't watching the screen so you won't respond, and get banned. If you're legitimate you see the message and respond. easy as that.

maybe design your games around something better than whoever was the most autistic whale who wasted more time on his phone during a week or two=highest ranker I dunno just maybe actually encourage healthy competition that involves more than just wasting time like a retard for literally nothing??

that's the antitheses of gacha games, by design they are massive time sinks devoid of actual game play and competition and only serve to eat up your battery/data and hardware.

can't work.
easiest way to defeat this is just have the script close the game when that pops up, you can't ban people who crash/disconnect when that popups or you will be banning legitimate players
not to mention people go afk all the time during missions etc

>that's the antitheses of gacha games
That's his point.

well really you will only be using these measures on accounts that are EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS. Basically if they have like 12h+ play time every day it's time to start taking counter measures.

Unfortunately gacha cucks are so mentally unwell they might actually kill themselves if their account gets banned, so I do see your point. False positive = dead whale

Xuanzang is play by a woman.
This be good.

i'll let you in on a secret user
botting doesn't matter since the amount of free currency you can get is limited