Is it worth learning Japanese for vidyer...

Is it worth learning Japanese for vidyer? Am I gonna regret spending 5+ years of my life learning a language that has no realistic application in my life outside of hobbies?

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No, it's not like knowing languages is a nice skill that boosts your CV or anything.

there are plenty of realistic applications for learning a language you fucking tard
probably in the top ten things you could be doing right now at home

Nah, it's only worth learning jap for vns or light novels. Everything else that's good gets translated.

It is preferable to learn a language to translate a game into english

The only language you need is english. If a game doesnt have english then its not worth playing.

the only reason is to be able to get imports.

Is this the retard monolingual thread

That's not true and you damn well know it

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Only if you actually have interest and is a dedicated obscure gamer that genuinely search and want to play all that hiding unknown stuff that never will get a translation. If that isn't the case then there's no reason for you to.

if you consume many japanese contents its worth it. also you can import stuff from japanese sites without scammy importers/resellers.

i kinda regret learning english cause practically i dont use it outside of Yea Forums and consume any modern anglo content. its only helpful when you import niche shit from a western seller otherwise.

IRL maybe yes, in vidya no
Knowing both English and Japanese can open up a lot of games to a player

Literally this.

Great, then I'll have exactly one thing to put on my resume when I go to apply at McDonald's, the only job a 26 year old NEET is qualified to do.

The idea that enhancing your leisure isn't a "realistic application" to your life is profoundly sad. Reminds me of that post by a guy who learned Chinese and it made him miserable because his job made him work with Chinese people all the time.

Anyway, you should probably endeavor to do and learn things beyond what will maybe make Mr Goldstein pay you a few extra dollars. You'll be happier.

No, I'm an ESL :^)

At least you already speak two languages.

This

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Ye but it's not like it makes a difference cause I mostly read/watch shit in english

If you wanna learn a language, learn a useful one. Spanish if you're American, German if you're European. If you want an Asian language, choose Chinese. I've literally never heard of a company needing Japanese speakers, but Chinese is getting more and more useful, and should net you a good job even if you're a NEET. You have no idea how much the Chinese cheat and try to fuck you when doing business. Oh, you wanted a specific grade of steel? Teehee we left it in a different port, also, it's a lower grade. Teehee better make do :) Fucking cunts, it's not that they don't speak English well, it's that they lie and cheat less when communicating with a Chinese speaker.

So what's your first language then

>German if you're European
made me chuckle

odds are anyone scared of learning japanese will have an aneurysm when they try learning chinese since it's much harder

western games have no future anyway. also western comics and cartoons fucking suck shit and totally creatively bankrupt. keep in mind that they will never recover.

You say that but have you seen how anime industry is nowadays? Japan doesn't even have a meaningful indie scenario.

are you going to learn it for literally nothing other than vidya, and if for vidya for mainstream games that already have dubs? then I don't think it's necessary
>tells him to learn Chinese instead of Japanese
I would recommend at the least starting to learn japanese if you want to learn any of the three east asian languages, korean is similar structurally but with sadistic pronunciation and if you fail at learning japanese then don't even start on chinese

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japanese. feel really like engish is worthless nowadays. it really isnt worth the time at least. besides importing some niche shit from a self-employed seller on sites like etsy, reverb, etc, and sometimes using it during a trip, you can play some niche games on steam but thats all. making friends with foreigners is fucking bs. you cant for a bunch of reasons especially if you are already an adult. still gonna try to do it in an artsy realm though cause of my main lifework. i need some like-minded westerners absolutely.

English is honestly only a helpful language when you live in a third world country.

Knowing english is better than not knowing it and it's one of the easier languages to learn.

>it's one of the easier languages to learn.
I feel like this depends a lot on your first language.

Iinteresting take. Yeah, I thought knowing english in asian countries was kinda a big deal considering how often we have foreign exchange students in my college because their parents want them to know english. Then again they're filthy rich

I'm studying the language now, in Japan. Access to some videogames is clearly not worth the amount of resources you have to invest, even if you study in your own country (x20 times harder to get anywhere).

No, I mean asians would find it more difficult due to alphabet but it really is easier in comparison to most languages.

Hey, I work in guest services at a museum, and I would absolutely hire someone who had no skills but spoke a rare language to work my welcome desk as long as they were polite organized and able to get to work on time, none of which are skills that you need experience to prove.

You are probably right, if you aren't using normal alphabet I can see why it would be hard.

Yeah, by this point of perspective, then yes, it is better having extra knowledge than not having any at all, also it's really easy enough to be the better language to first learn if you have a different alphabet.

I feel like I've seen a rather long post you made a year or so ago about doing business with Chinese people and getting screwed over, mentioning steel and construction in particular. Are you the same person or is this just a thing people say on the internet about the Chinese?

Absolutely, and it doesn't take 5 years. I can play vidya in Japanese just looking up the occasional word at 2.5 years, and I was playing games with simpler dialogue or more word looking up before now. You'll quickly realize that even "good" translations rarely convey the actual meaning of what is being said. It's quite eye opening.

I will add the caveat that I enjoy language for its own sake as well, so your experience might be different if you end up absolutely hating the language itself. There's certainly a lot of tedium involved in rote memorizing a large foundational vocabulary, but once you move past that it gets really interesting.

english is much harder than japanese

Fucking how, learning 50000 symbols doesn't feel very easy.

Assuming you are not a manchild and also read, watch films etc., Japanese is definitely worth learning. Especially if you play retro games.

Don't listen to EOPs who claim that everything relevant is translated and other such bullshit, they don't even know what they are missing.

I went down the same path in 2010 for the same reasons. Now I work as a part time translator and full time as writer for gaming news out of Japan (90% of which is just translating Japanese press releases for a number of outlets).

It'll be really difficult early on, but go for it user, I have no regrets.

Try making friends. That’s all you need for a great job opportunity. From there you just need a good work ethic and a willingness to learn.

>nepotism
fuck off jew

remembering that e is pronounced 3 different ways in the word remembering doesn't sound much easier

Sounds easier for me, probably a cultural difference.

We exist in a society

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It's literally the only difficult thing from english

I didn’t make the rules, I just play by them.

Doubtful, given how any retarded gorilla nigger can master it. English is as basic, dull and insipid as a language can be.

none of them master it though
have you ever heard them speak

No shit, accents exist.

What's the other 9 user

yes i'm sure accent is their only problem

It's one of the major problems
t. slav

>tfw i have confirmed memory/brain problems and learn 10x slower than everyone else

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>have multiple sclerosis and the memory problems are starting to hit
>zero chance of me being able to successfully learn a foreign language when I'm already having trouble remembering English

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Learning Japanese is useful if only because you'll be trying to understand a language that is really different from your own. I think observing different implementations of the same general ideas makes your thought processes more flexible. Knowing Japanese really helped me when I decided to take on a programming language; what could have seemed a "techie gobbledygook" otherwise was now just another functioning language you use to ask a machine to do certain things (technically higher-level programming languages are interpreted further into machine code but nevermind that).

All in all, I won't probably have a real use for mu Japanese skills (like get actually paid for it or something) but it did help me a lot and it's a nice method of keeping your mind in shape. I also learned to write with my left hand while tackling kanji.

>this is your brain on Yea Forums

if you speak japanese you can go work in japan

the worst thing to happen if you do that is that you learned a new language. What downside is there?

>tfw my best friend has an aggressive form of MS
Shit's horrible. I'm sorry you gotta deal with it, user.

No, everything that's good gets translated. If you think of learning Japanese as a means to play anime tiddy games, you would give up after 2 weeks anyway, but if you want to learn a language for the fun of it, then it's a good idea; knowing a language is always a valuable asset.

It is at least around 2000 times easier.

What advice would the japanese anons give to help a beginner who just finished learning conjugation ?

>Am I gonna regret spending 5+ years of my life learning a language that has no realistic application in my life outside of hobbies?
It's highly valuable as a business language, so I do not think it would be wasted. If you have a legitimate, strong interest in Japanese media and culture, then it's worth it. Otherwise, Japanese is a terrible language that is a pain in the ass to learn. Better than learning niggerspeak like Mandarin or Arabic #127, though.
>What about everything that gets translated?
A lot of things get translated, but often lose or distort the original content in the process. For instance, you can completely miss the significance in a scene because the intensity of a statement or word is untranslatable in English. A lot of unique content remains untranslated as well, notably visual novels and obscure RPGS/tactics titles. So, if any of those things are of interest to you, then it could be nice.

To all the losers mentioning Spanish/French/German, it only matters if OP is going to actually want to use the language. I am fluent in Spanish, but I rarely feel inclined to make any use of it outside casual conversation because Spanish-language media is almost always trash. So is their food and the majority of countries that speak it as a primary tongue. It's just not entertaining in the least, and I have no interest in speaking it every day to random people either, so it's useless to me. Something like French/German/Italian/Russian may be more useful, since those all have a greater selection of famed books and musical works to dig into. All of them would be easy to tackle, especially German (could be fluent in three months if you're a native English speaker).

You're remembering the post about the user working with Chinese and Russian manufacturers of metal products for building projects. Chinese suck, though they have some okay media. Asian crime dramas are pretty cool.

I literally spent 4 years in university for a Japanese language degree and I regret every minute of it. Should have learnt French though.