What's Yea Forums's opinion on the western eroge scene? What's your favorite game?

>If you count those old ass Zone flash games, sure. But it was always pretty rare to see them.
im talking about actual games, actually released for consoles you retard, and with physical releases on pc, you are further proving how young you really are, and how little you actually know

Problem is that most of them are made by one guy who's either good at drawing, writing, coding or general game design, and you can see how the game becomes lackluster in the other aspects.

I really think years from now they'll have more experience, and hopefully there will be better monetization methods than having to comply with patreon's vanilla-only rules.

Really not a fan. I really can't stand most 3D porn, so that already kills like half of the western porn stuff.
After that, there are the horribly grindy games like Trainer games. Jesus fuck how can people mock RPG Maker H-games and play Akabur's shit?
Then there's also the trend of using popular characters like pic related. I can see why people enjoy this, but honestly not a factor for me at all.
Then finally there's all the bare minimum gameplay games like Summertime Saga, where the gameplay segments are some of the cheapest, dumbest minigames ever conceived. And finally there's the content itself. I hate how extreme the western scene is, it's either vanilla 100% all time or insane technicolor furry futa cockvore scat galore so over-the-top that makes Monster Girl Quest look like handholding missionary.

The only western games I could stand are the text-based ones. But maybe I'm just playing all the wrong ones, IDK? Either way, if anyone could shoot me a good, non-text recommendation I'll try it.

>western console porn games

Yeah, I can't think of any. You're full of shit.

leisure suit larry series
the guy game
atari porn games
the joy of sex
theres several for you (with atari porn games being in the hundreds)
>inb4 t-those dont count!
fuck off fag

What are you into

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how dare you compare LSL to hentai dreck

I enjoyed it
for me, it's Mai and toph and Joo dee

Those are boomer games, there's a reason why they're not developed anymore. Now every western porn game is like OP's pic, which is better than flash games I guess.

Really anyone in the Elsaverse.

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Damn, took the words right outta my mouth. I do really enjoy Four Elements Trainer though.

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>>inb4 t-those dont count!
>fuck off fag
you are really bad at moving those goalposts m8

Then do tell me what the devs of these games have done in the past 10 years?

We need more fe-like porn games
Specifically ones with pregnancy

I don't even know what the "western" scene means anymore for eroge. 99% of what people consider to be "western" is just EU and Russian fags making the same shitty incest VN game and their characters are literal goblinos. Wouldn't they be considered eastern games? What the fuck even is western anymore?

Like, I cannot tell what games are made in the west since almost every game "author" speaks in extremely broken English. The only two that I know that are from the west are the authors of Summertime Saga and Town of Passion.

Am I going crazy or have I just not seen enough shitty porn games yet?

Femdom, vanilla, even a bit of maledom. No female slavery/abuse. As for fetishes, anything goes except NTR and scat.

i literally dont have to, you said western porn games didnt exist until this recent wave, i proved you wrong, you said it was only flash games, i proved you wrong, you said console porn games didnt exist for a western market, i proved you wrong
just take the hint that you clearly know jack shit about this subject and fuck off

This
Fuck all of them. They're shit artists usually, and then they ask me to pay for their garbage.

No

Any good sandbox-like games (lots of freedom, customization and options) that still has good art/scenes/animations?

yes, but theyre text only, see fcpregmod, or the era games

Cool, but a bunch of very old titles don't mean anything if games like that stopped being developed. The market existed, then became in-existent.

I mean, my imagination isn't good enough. So that's why I wanted to see if there's such a thing as games like those without being text-only or pixelCG-only

The art is almost universally bad, to the point where text only games are better

then youll have to wait for an actual AAA porn game, or for one of the dozens of "devs" making 30k+ a month on patreon to actually use that money for something other than blow

A lot of your games are out of date user.

>tfw you find games with incredibly good artists who clearly aren't good at the other parts of game developing, so you end up with a game with extremely slow development, full of glitches and with fanfic-level dialogues

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You're going to have a hard time finding a sandbox game with good art. The entire point of a sandbox is the possibilities. Making art for each possibility is hard.

I can think of maybe Trap Quest.

>opinion on the western eroge scene?
Absolutely rubbish. Even ignoring that most of the notable ones are eternally incomplete Patreon projects, western eroge has several common problems:
>Terrible and unfun grindy mechanics
You have to keep doing same fucking shit to get to porn, or in worst case have to perform some mindless minigames each day to get enough money to buy a dildo or something to proceed to next scene, and then start gathering money to buy next thing. Or maybe devs have combat, and have stupidly complicated system that not even an autist can enjoy.
>Shitty art
Just look at all this shit. It's either 3DGC, or something on level with Summertime Saga. I have no idea how people eat up this crap.
>Scenes and writing
It's honestly an accomplishment that WEG devs consistently manage to create something worse than nukiges translated by ESLs. But that's how it is.

It's not like I'm looking to hate this. I fucking love porn games, and I'm ready to be proven wrong. Just give me one good game. It can even be a fucking visual novel.

>Trap Quest.
>good
lol

How's Four Elements Trainer coming along? I remember last checking it out when most of book3 was complete, seeing as they have Korra there I'm assuming it's nearly completed?

Avoiding text games is your biggest loss here, femdom is usually extreme in it's content, in /wegs/ that employ it you'll only find, say, a single character that specializes in that kind of content.

With that in mind, Mythic Manor is competently written and features the most breedable women in existence whos whole shtick is soft femdom so look into that.
Snowdaze features a couple of femdom scenes.
Roundscape is an entirely completed RPG with plenty of femdom and vanilla if you don't mind an anime-like art style.
And of course theres always Kamidori AM which is just girls tripping over MC's cock carousel which centers around mostly tame fetish shit except for for and scat and shit.
I could think of more from the female MC prospective but they're all 3D renders so I won't bother.

I agree with all of that.
What are the best games you can recommend?

I don't check on all of them but thanks for the reminder. There's really only like 5 that I keep weekly tabs on.

I'd like to see westerners create more small scale sim games such as Lost Life, where there's a lot of interaction and polish but it's just sex.

Dude, beggars really don't get to be choosers in this industry. Trap Quest is somewhat sandboxy and has actual visuals.

Someone just mentioned Mythic Manor, that somewhat fits the bill, same with Harem Hotel. Night Games is okay. I'm a fan of A Spell For All and The Lilith Device.

I doubt we'll ever get that. Japan get away with it because they don't live in a SJW-controlled outrage culture. Any AAA eroge studio in the west would probably have to make things extremely vanilla and "diverse", otherwise it would be hell to market and sell it. That's why I'm hoping these amateurs on patreon get at least some experience doing their jig.

game sauce please?

i think the biggest problem with western porn games, is the same thing that is actively plaguing the western triple a market as a whole
devs are trying to throw in as many mechanics (see: fetishes) as possible, no matter how horribly shallow and underdeveloped they may be, leading to games to be as wide as an ocean, but as shallow as a puddle
one of the reasons why eastern porn games, or hell, even RUSSIAN porn games are leagues better than 99% of weg shit, is because the dev(s) focus in on a few select fetishes, usually even just 1, and expand on that as far as they can

Wheres the fun in that? There has to be some kind of build-up, some kind of tease. I'm not 14 anymore dude I can't bust my nut to instant action I need to be tantalized by the shit I like.

>Avoiding text games is your biggest loss here
I'm avoiding text games 'cuz I pretty much played 'em all. CoC, TiTS, Lewdity, Lilith's Throne, Free Cities (hated it for obvious reasons), Era games (same)... As I said, it's pretty much the only western games I can stand.

Heard Snow Daze being suggested a few times, really piqued my interest but apparently it's a never ever? Roundscape seems pretty generic but at least worth a try. I'll pass on Mythic Manor tho.

Also,
>suggesting Kamidori
cmon_son.jpg

You can append a short visual novel to it if you wanted to.

Snow Daze was completed a while ago, the fuck do you get your news?

It's literally in the image. How do you function as a human being?

usually good for a laugh and an occasional fap, not much else.

From Yea Forums of course, which I just remembered is the least reliable source for news ever. Either way, thanks for the heads-up.

the one true western eroge isn't even released yet

It really depends what you're looking for. If your only criteria is "game with porn" then there's no denying that Alicesoft makes the best ones, but generally I feel that their stuff with best gameplay has pretty weak porn, like Rance or Evenicle. And then porn focused ones like Escalayer or Haruka have pretty lackluster gameplay.
Eushully and Softhouse are in similar vein, making decent games in their own right, but the porn in them is never really that fapable to me.

Honestly, it's probably RPG Maker stuff where I consistently go for actual porn content. Yes, seriously. The games are usually made with clear focus on mind, so you can just look at the premise and art and then decide if it's for you. For example, I really like sluts, so Meltys Quest was great for me. Moral degration is also good, so I liked JC Fight.
Then there's also visual novels, but those usually take quite a while to get going, but in return you're gonna have really lenghty scenes. But the deal I've found with those is that scenes are often very frontloaded, to set up everything, and then just transform into kind automode, since it's expectation that you're fapping while text is scrolling, so moans and SFX will do lots of the work in keeping scene sexy. Nevertheless, I really like Lilith's games, as well as stuff from Pin-point. Much like RPG Maker stuff, just looking at art and premise will usually be enough to tell if something will appeal to you.

Snow Daze is ridiculously hot but it's also got some of the worst fetishes of all time shat into it. I recommend it, but just prepare to be cringing and trying to forget the dialogue you just heard while you're jacking off.

Dude you can't hate on Era games because of the text, most of that shit isn't even translated.
EraTohoK and EraTohoTW are my faves, I wish TW had more of Ks sex system though
Some actual competent devs making an Era game from scratch would probably be pretty good

Subverse? I fully expect it to suck

>cuckverse

It better be fucking good man, x-com porn sim sounds brilliant, as an australian I can REALLY get behind the generic MC accent too. I just hope to christ I can fucking shoot that stupid doctor whore out the airlock the instant shes introduced I don't want her cuckshit or her monster cock abominations anywhere fucking near me or my shit that whole character design is garbage and should be ejected like garbage.

>Dude you can't hate on Era games because of the text
You... really need to learn to read the full reply string and not jump to conclusions.
>Femdom, vanilla, even a bit of maledom. *No female slavery/abuse.*

where are all the good western games with futa/girl or futa/futa

Some games have truly good art. Witch Hunter and Sex-arcade for example, but they're never going to be finished.

My favorite western porn games are Nergal's: A Zombie's Life and that one where you get devil powers. Lots of great incest and dirty talk.

I don't know. I've played very few truly well-done Japanese games.

Incidentally I recommend Lulu Farea. Absolutely astonishing. Great art, ridiculously fun gameplay. There's a similar, smaller game called Exorcist Maiden or something like that, I thought that one was pretty good too, nowhere near as expansive though.

>underage, western porn games have been around for literal decades in decent quantities
You're a fucking moron. No they haven't, unless you count stupid flash meet n fuck shit.

What's the game with most anal?

Can be western or eastern, I don't care

Depending on your tastes Taffy Tales also has great art.

I would pay actual fucking money to have priscilla sit on my face fr
PERFECT character design

>priscilla

Is that the one with the fat ass? If so, good taste

>What's Yea Forums's opinion on the western eroge scene?
It's a garbage dump. And 99% of the dump's refuse is copy-paste Blender asset games, where hideous 3D bimbos are (badly) posed in still image "visual novels", with writing more embarrassing and grammatically-broken than an indian Pornhub comment. Nobody puts any effort into art style, gameplay, dialogue or animation anymore, and even the Japanese are starting to get just as lazy. The few "successes" in the industry are hardly any better, where every project is either a scam artist milking years and years of payments off Patreon whales, or some repugnant front for the furry mafia (Corruption of Champions, Cloud Meadow, etc.)

We desperately need our own Carmack, Miyamoto or Newell to save the genre that is porn games, but this shit makes no money and it's taboo, so that will never happen. You know it's all a sorry state when even Zone has turned into a fucking scam artist.

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So is the demo on the patreon only a version update behind? Is Korra implemented yet or is that still coming?

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I can't get into porn VNs or porn games in general because every one I've tried is just atrociously slow. You boot it up ready to jack off, and then you have to sit through an hour of plot and character introductions, and then for some reason you have to spend several more hours grinding stats before you even get to see one nipple.

Only porn games I've enjoyed are 3D ones where you can download a full save file and jump directly into a free sex mode. I'm fine with a story in porn and it can really elevate the experience but game makers just don't know how to get to the point.

>when even Zone has turned into a fucking scam artist.
quick rundown?
last i heard about him he was working for some animation studio now

>Zone

I legit don't understand what happened. He made such good small games

The one where I get to fuck the furry nun in the ass

Milking Patreon while doing nothing like every other dickhead

P E R F E C T

Bitch training is a forgotten art chief it aint the late 2000's anymore man, we have plenty of bimbo games but no bitch trainers save a patreon shills few.

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Porn makes ridiculous amounts of money if you sell it in the right way. The only reason there's no "AAA" porn game industry is that most decent devs don't want the job.

Eh, that's fine. If the scenes are good, I can stand some jank. Honestly my biggest gripe with what I've been finding via Google is that there's pretty much no "game" in this "western porn game".

If I ever made a Top 10, I think the only one not to be eastern would be CoC. The Japanese H-scene is so far ahead of the western one is not even funny.

>artist I like returns
>but he's a lazy ideas guy
>posts some sketches, rakes in donations and then fucks off for years
>he does this repeatedly

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Book 3 > Book 2 > Book 1
I'll play 4 when the love route is released.

Taffy Tales does have good art at points, but it's so uneven. Like, Priscilla's face looks okay in the event images, but in sprites she's like middle-aged lady, while she's supposed to be schoolgirl that's same age as protag.

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Eroticism is an art of it's own. It's supposed to have a sort of pacing, similar to tension building in horror games.

Ideally, the game will tease the player and build investment to the character, which pays off by having the actual porn become much more exciting.

However, most devs don't have a good dedicated writer, so they're clueless on how to do that.

That image is a great example of adequate artistic skill but horrible taste

The Last Sovereign is the only legitimately good game and even then it is barely eroge. Maybe Kingdom of Deception?

Dunno where you grew up dude but she looks fine in all art to me, I never took a step back and went.
>man, that body sure does look weird for a schoolgirl
Then again, I grew up on the best country on earth, so whatever.

I usually don't play 3D goblin shit but this is genuinely hilarious. Why is it always the 3D boomer games that have the best writing?
Same with Melody, great writing, annoying goblins.

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>western
>eroge
mutually exclusive, eroge is a japanese term

I love erotica but nearly every text game I play is ruined by not having enough structure. You get generic madlibs sex scenes and dialogue that doesn't reflect what's going on. I'd much rather just have a structure like a CYOA, but all I seem to find are TG games.

only western game I played and enjoyed was Towergirls, any similar recommendations?

There was one era game that had images that was pretty good, the one with the mahjong girls.

Actually now that I think about it, that was the best slave training game that I've ever played actually even if small bits of dialogue weren't translated. Miles ahead of anything the west ever produced.

What's CYOA and TG?

soon
webm.red/waab.webm

Looks very low quality. Why the anticipation?

because of her

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CYOA is a series of books with a branching story. It more or less evolved into the visual novel.
TG is gender transformation. A TG game would have you turn into a girl based on your choices.

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Fire love route is more canon than the shitty comics and the creative abortion that was korra

The only good western porn games are the ones where you have to mod the porn in.

>most decent devs don't want the job
I think it's more the stigma attached and that if you even try to make an actual game without the abusive patreon model most people are just going to pirate it. Western countries are still extreme prudes, especially compared to Japan.

>that
>funny
Whatever floats your boat.

>tfw trying to become an artist that can replicate japanese energy
I'll shake off every whiff of western scent. They'll never know the doujinshi creator is an American once I learn

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This. They get extremely tedious and repetitive after only a few scenes. Once you recognize the way it's structured text games become a chore. And that's assuming the writing was any good to begin with.

They'll learn and ignore you. The japs used to love Zone until they realized he wasnt asian.

What's Yea Forums's opinion on the western eroge scene?
jewrubbinghands/10
fuck patreon

Say what happened to the autistic CoC mod which was being developed in /hgg/ in 4+Yea Forums after the place went down? Is it down in the sewers after that?

ngmi

I'm sure zone's popularity just faded out because of all the other good artists around. Drawn porn on the internet is fucking everywhere in high quality now

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This, fuck
The art and story can be ok sometimes but goddamn everything else is a disaster

Go away /ic/, your words are useless

This looks like 3D jank, what the fuck.

Okay so what's an example of a good lewd game that's long has a lot of content and scenes?

nah he's right if you're ashamed of your heritage you can't git gud

Good luck with that bro. I envy people that can into art, sadly I'm an coding egghead and I quickly learned nobody gives a shit about those

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>knowing /ic/ buzzwords
it's already too late for you, user. the bug is in your head. /beg/'s siren song will claim you, sooner or later.

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I'm not ashamed of it, I just want to mold my direction rather than rolling with what I know and calling it a day
/ic/ is just Yea Forums but with less video games, prove me wrong

All western eroges are cash grabs. There isn't one decent dev out there who wants to actually deliver a good game but all of them only want to milk as much as possible from their patrons.

Can't blame them, the people who cater to scum are also inevitably going to be scums

The Japanese are different in this regard, they deliver results.

Western? Beats me, got into this thread to figure it out too.
Japanese? Depends what you're into.

Patreon has vanilla only rules because of paypal and credit card companies requiring them to do so. Until they change, which is extremely unlikely, everyone is going to have to play by those rules.
The only way I could see a way around it is if japan launched their own patreon-like site with an english section and it caught on in the same way as patreon has.

Just start making some game and shill it in /agdg/

>if japan launched their own patreon-like site

Fantia is catching up, dunno if it has an english section, but I think some non-jap artists already adhered to it.

Yeah, I'm working on something but it's still not even close of being something worth showing. And God knows I don't want it to be yet another addition to /agdg/'s graveyard, the only place that gets more never evers than Patreon.

Why is paypal even against porn art? Like it's non of their fucking business what the image is as long as it's not illegal

Vast majority of artists can't code for shit, so partner up. Just be prepared to do most of the work initially to actually get a game going, while the artist will have to do most of the work towards the end. Waiting on each other is an excuse.

Any jap patreon site is going to be a double edged sword. Is it worth having games with a wider variety of fetishes if it means seducing the japs into becoming lazy fucks who milk their patrons dry?

I can do some basic 3D modeling myself but I'm shit at drawn art. I've been trying to go solo at the start and I've been making (slow) progress, but I'm half expecting to have to partner up for the home stretch anyways.

Jap culture doesn't encourage being lazy like ours do. Hell, I've seen non-japs start using fantia just to support their jap creators more easily

Avoiding PR nightmares like ("Paypal is facilitating the sale of child pornography!"

>weg scene
>new
People have said this 2-3years ago. Said it'll get better in a year or two and yet here we are. Updates for games are coming out even slower now and there are even more wegscammers. The only thing that improved is render and model quality of a handful of devs.

It took like 4 years for 4 elements to reach the final strech and even then it looks like we are looking at another 2 years to develop korra's shit and at that point who the fuck is gonna remember avatar 1 or 2?

It's not porn, just fetish porn. I suspect prudes and the potential to be punished for supporting anything deemed "obscene" are the factors at play. US law is incredibly vague in what can and cannot be criminalized when it comes to "obscene" material and is prosecuted on a case by case basis. Leaving your fate in the hands of a group of random normies is never wise if you can avoid it.

Korras there

I would've been inclined to agree with you in the past, but gachashit has gone too far. Japs are susceptible to the same lazy, manipulative habits westerners are.

Guess I'm safe then. I ain't drawing those specific fetishy stuff nor am I drawing super loli shit
It'll be hard but I'll make it

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anything besides Wild life and Subverse is complete garbage, and im not yet sure about subverse until i see if the scenes are not pre-rendered.

Goons raid Her allows you to fuck Lara croft its at Chapter 3 now. Cant wait for more updates. The model is basically Rise Lara.

Snow daze is done but mostly youll hear shit talk from anons because of its complicated development history, what was supposed to be a short side project turned the devs attention to full on long term development which really soured anons opinion on the VN and the dev
What are you thinking about is sun daze a sequel that takes place in the summer and instead of your big tittied "adopted" family youll deal with mostly petite gals

>western eroge
the people who support the patreons make sure there's always a minotaur and a decent probability of some slut fucking a dog.
fucking furries

>ook ook me like cuckverse

Making Rpgm and vn games with copy and pasted anime porn is just as bad as western devs never completing their games.

>copy and pasted anime porn
I hear this meme all the time. What kind of low-tier trash jap games are you guys even playing?

Also the one where its depicts the side profile of your teacher while she gives you the suck is so hilariously warped she almost looks like a different person

The main character looks like a mix of Virgin and Chad.

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>spoiler
Can't disagree with that. No point in complaining, gotta make do with what you get.

I like it more than japanese eroge because:

>not so averse to anal
>no blurried pixels
>more diverse artstyles other than generic anime look-a-likes

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Post more 3D goblin dialogue

You know hentai eroges are often uncensored right

It's funny in a horrifying kind of way

Some are, some aren't

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You should partner often times god tier artists are held back because of the shit and hack jobs of second rate coders

I know I keep spamming this but honestly, any good life sim games?

Too many goblins. So far only Fallen Doll is bearable

Reincarnotica dev puts game on hold because of school life, if it wasnt for the Design id dropped hopes of it already.

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Tales of Androgyny is one of the best RPGs I've ever played. Are there other non-H stance based RPGs?

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I like it when the art style isn't terrible like STS but I want games with more of a format of it.

About pic related, the art and stuff is fantastic but there's only probably an hour of content in 1 year development. Updates monthly I think.

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why does every single 3d model eroge look exactly like every other one

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>What's Yea Forums's opinion on the western eroge scene?
Fucking pathetic.
>What's your favorite game?
uhhhhhhhhhhh
Free Cities w/Pregmod?

If you're not using cheats or save editing in porn games to skip grinds I don't know what to tell you.

Talented Devs are alot more prone to abondon/on hold on making their games than shitty copypaste Hacks

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They all has the same training (none) and use the same software and models (Daz 3D)

So is there any good RPG maker games where you actually help out some girls in a comfy town and they fuck you later as thanks?

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What a boring design

I enjoy mindless RPGmaker combat so I don't skip that, but everything else is fair play.

>if you're not skipping the "game" part of this porn game I don't know what to tell you
If I wanted to do that, the best cheat is to just go PornHub and get the scenes online. Or, better yet, just go "play" stuff like Artificial Academy or Koikatsu.

I always at the bare minimum give myself a few million dollars.

because they use the same model, it's how daz3d works

It's all fucking garbage, if it's got decent art it's got terrible gameplay and shit writing, if it's got decent gameplay and writing it's got shit art, if it's got decent art and gameplay and writing it's a patreon scam.

They think that because it uses the same RPGMaker engine it means it's the same game. And then they go back to the next western game made in Unity.

Milftoon drama
God tier art style and animations held back by the shitty coding its got under the hood and also retarded ass decisions like unskipable cutscenes or basic ass actions and thats with out the splitting of the packages

Sorry it isn't a 3d goblin like you wanted

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Yo anyone? I love the idea of meet and fuck and would kill for something with better writing and graphics/animation.

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Can't remember anything as far as western stuff goes. There's Life is Paradise, but it's pretty grindy, and In the Hamlet of Loli Bigtits, but as the name suggests, that's focused on paizuri.

How would that work?

Godspeed

I like Princess/Witch Trainer and Something Unlimited. Rogue-like and Snow Daze were also pretty gud. Summertime Saga and Kingdom of Deception were okay.

Exactly how it sounds.
I can tell you a bunch of newgrounds games that are like it.
Frank's adventure
Meet n fuck games
Hentai RPG

The thing I hate most about western eroge is the writing feels like it was taken straight from a shitty porn video
Why bother drawing 2d if you're just going to have all the girls act like 3d sluts?

Well what do you want then?

I really feel like calling people making DAZ Ren'Py VNs devs shouldn't be allowed. Also I think I remember this game back from when I kept tabs on /weg/ before it became nothing more than "developers" and their friends shilling their scams. This is that awful MMORPG game where the dev kept pretending to be anons excited about redheads and the indian doctor he cooked up.

A lot of them just steal stuff from erotic writing they find on the net.

Cute girls being cute

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>What's Yea Forums's opinion on the western eroge scene?
It's terrible.
>What's your favorite game?
They're all bad.

My opinion is largely based around the fact that it's free: Not bad, but space to improve.

The real thing is that no one innovates, or most of these games offer very little different from other games.

Porn Empire at the moment.