What the FUCK am I looking at here?

Alien with a tiny purple penis

>you just noticed that the lavos bits are like tiny lavos on floating radishes

>lavos core is just the amalgamation of all dna in the planet

The final boss of the greatest video game ever made.

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Yeah, I love how strange the final form looks and how it works in a bizarre way.

I never understood this. Why does killing one of the little guys end the fight?

Because he's the real lavos core. The humanoid being is a decoy.

you never know who might be playing it blind for the first time user
probably one of the best happy endings in video games if you played the whole game. Also another 11 endings that vary in quality. And the first official use of a New Game+ mode. Technically also missing out on Chrono Cross, but that's forgiveable.

Well shit. I have a save state left in my emulator right before the fight, but I completely forgot how to play the game. Oh well, it's about the journey, not the destination, or whatever they say. The rest of the game is pretty fun; I see why people like it so much.

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He does a lot of damage even if your equipment is good, so especially if you're a lower level it can catch you off-guard if you forget to heal. Plus you might waste time attacking the center one only and waste resources. I think I remember my brother and I dying on the final form the first time we played the game back when it was new.

I really liked Lavos' outer shell, but disliked the fact that there's a humanoid thing within. Lavos' design is to damn cool and unique, and then you go and fight Cell from Dragon Ball for the final battle who turns into... that.

Survival of the fittest.

Casuals will attack the bbeg.

Others will play test resetting the timeline in a.metaphorical way like you helped Ness, and realize that the right one is in fact the actual lavos.

Also, if you use zsnes then once the battle ends you can still see the lavos bit.

Balloon ride with best girl. And then nothing else happened, THE END.
youtube.com/watch?v=lfUYZmydl8I

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same, thought it was dumb and just quit.

Lavos did nothing wrong

peak podformance

Is there original Toryama art of this guy? I've never seen it.

I've played this game so much that lavos has become a joke when I nuke him for 8k with something like omega flare or dark eternal and win in three turns, but on my last playthrough I intentionally handicapped myself with the assumption that I was a new player and missed out on gear, so I didn't have multiple nova armors and prism helms, any of the rocks, didn't boost with tabs, and fought Lavos around level 50ish. I was actually caught off-guard with how much of a challenge he provided. He hits like a truck, especially if your mag defense is low, and if you don't have status immunity, his attacks can be down right disgustingly cruel once in a while.

You don't say... that's like looking at a bear doing bear things and saying what he's doing is either right or wrong

i just started this game and im a little annoyed at how aimless it is. i also dont like how hard it is to tell whats interactable and whats just decoration.

im just walking around trying to figure out what the fuck im supposed to do. im in future world now and the dome lords want me to open their food vault but i need passwords to get in there. so i went right and it had infinitely spawning robots. then i went down through the sewer and met the old man and none of the consoles did anything except for the one that briefly blinks. so then i went up from there and the mountain blows you away.

what the fuck do i do? its been like this since the beginning. it would be fun to explore if the save system wasnt gay and if it wasnt built around limiting where you can go.

i also have a BIG problem with detection. in the beginning i figured out right away that i had to walk to a building and find its name to enter. so i tried to go to the festival but nothing popped up no matter where i walked into. so i figured it wasnt the place. i went around the whole map until i realized that maybe the game is shit and sure enough that was the reason. i had to align myself perfectly down the tiny pathway so i could go half millimeter deeper before i saw the name pop up. this also fucked me a couple of times on stuff that looked interactable but wouldnt do anything until i carefully aligned myself and stood there just right.

its frustrating that the minds behind the best rpgs implemented such poor quality of life

>the passcode actually works as a casual filter nowadays
not sure if I should be impressed

retard animeposter, go fap to your cunny or whatever shit they call that pedo shit

It's the man behind the curtain.

One is the large, intimidating, eldritch creature that "must" be the world-ending Lavos... and the other is merely a small pod floating harmlessly nearby and not drawing your attention at all.

how can people have this much trouble with a game I finished when I was 13 years old

mountain is just an optional side area that only means something much later in the game, I like visiting it early anyway but it's not the way to progress

at least try to remember what you're supposed to be doing without needing a big huge map marker

And so a zoomer proves that Chrono Trigger is good. No Skyrim doors for you.

Not that guy, but also not a bad idea. Thanks, user.

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but i dont know what im supposed to be doing. the only information i have is that they need food but cant open the door. the other people say stuff about how its too dangerous to go into the sewer and how theres tons of robots in the other place and how theres a crazy old man living by the mountain and how some guy went down there but never came up.

thats all i know

>spam full screen attacks
not if you know what you are doing, bit on the left get's healed by magic if I remember right, you gotta use physicals to take it out and then either focus on hitting the middle or pound the right when it opens up.

Because people are growing up with casualized shit and can't handle thinking for themselves.

you open the door by pressing the combo on your controller
may not have aged well because it refers to a SNES controller

Rapist space duck

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If I recall you have to catch the rat in the basement that runs around the dome where the people are asking for food to find the code to get deeper into the basement to find the food. Theres a note that tells you that on the rafters. You may have missed the hatch to the basement as well possibly, its near Doan

>Instead of actually interesting divergences of time and changing of character motivations and logical endings
>LOLNOPE. Eldritch bullshit that always gravitates to a singularity every time, erasing any and all plot twists and character deviations

I now realize Lavos was the worst part of CT

Did you go down the ladder in the dome that needs food and find the food storage area? That seems like a good place to start.

You remembered wrong. The rat chase triggers only after you find the food storage and read the note that the guy left.

it's the journey that matters

it's in a way comparable to dragon quest where there's always just a silly demon lord that doesn't even matter much

Essentially. I like that there's nothing noble about it. He's not buff, his feet are duck feet, he looks dangerous but not impressive. You get a bit weirded out looking at him and his flipper-like hands. Lavos just looks like a bizarre space abomination that's raping the planet needs to be removed.

I get it too. CT is still one of my favorite games of all time. I just think Lavos either could have been handled better or maybe not have an eldritch identity just erasing everything.

oh god dammit. yeah i went there and now i see what i missed. it was the fucking detection on the god damn rafters and fact it doesnt even look like you should be able to walk right on it.

fucking hell the qol sucks my ass.

i can figure the rest from here. fuck i'll just have to try every god damn angle to make absolutely sure i can or cant go somewhere or interact with something

this is beautiful

The epic trickery twist doesn't work because most people try to kill the minions of a boss in an rpg before the actual boss

Except coming to the wrong planet, motherfucker. Now imagine their homeworld. Imagine their planet looking like a giant lavos shell.

Players will find out that the little guy on the right can resurrect the other bits, which encourages players to deal with that one first. They will notice that that one has much more health than its companions, but its defenses will deactivate when it resurrects another bit, forcing the player to balance their attacks between the different bits. When this right bit is eliminated, players may be pleasantly surprised to find that that is all they needed to do.

It is true that it makes no real sense aesthetically, though.

Maybe, but the right bit is invincible until you destroy the left one, so you might not bother with attacking it. And the left one is healed by magic if I recall, so if you're spamming magic that hits all enemies they won't die.

Most people do things left to right so it double fails

I think your brain just isn't trained to interpreting top down pixel art-based environments yet. I never had the problems you're describing

it's a japanese game and they do things right to left

I played this recently, and you could just destroy the center bit, because this would also make the right bit vulnerable. You're right that the left one is healed by magic, but the center one takes full damage from it.

Crono holding on with one hand, what a beast.

I can't believe the little floating guy on the right is the real Lavos

I thought you had to kill the left bit to damage the right one. It's been a while since I've played.

Even so, you might kill the left bit and see it gets revived. Then think "oh, they're just going to revive anyway, no point in trying to kill them again."

Whenever the right bit resurrects either, it loses all its defense. At least, that's the case for the SNES version.

just killed the robot and found the dead guy. man i keep saying detection sucks for a reason. the first thing i did was go down there and i even tried going right on the rafters and it didnt work. the pixels on the rafters have like a lip or rail only going up and not across, so i figured that since i could go right, that the texture meant it wasnt walkable anyway. like if there was a little barrier.

look i know im a jackass but the detection has been bugging my ass since i started. i mean i just marathoned dq 4 and 5. i literally beat 5 two days ago. either i instantly forgot how to interpret pixels or this game failed at properly displaying them and you guys just got used to it. i mean i couldnt tell chests from rocks or floor tiles when i started but now i can

The factory ruins coming up later in the era youre in are going to eat you alive with "can I go here or not?" stuff. It's one of the more confusing dungeons in CT, even for me and I played the game in like 1996

snesmaps.com/maps/ChronoTrigger/ChronoTrigger2300Factory.html

Have a map if you get stuck in it

That's right, I remember now. I always would attack the left one to lower defense so I forgot.

Post a screenshot, maybe there is something fucked with your emulator
I beat the game when I was 10 and I never had these stupid issues you're having

>Yfw you encounter the Lavos spawn in Death Peak

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im emulating with twilight menu++ on 3ds.

see the brighter line? because when i first came here i couldnt go right, i figured that was some kind of support beam under the one you can walk on. it gave me the impression i wasnt supposed to be able to go on it. pissed me off hard that i tried anyway because i knew detection was fucky but all i had to do was aim better. i went all over the fucking map AGAIN because i didnt hit it just right

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Where is Lavos in 2300 AD anyway? I assumed Death Peak was created from Lavos erupting. Is Death Peak at last partially Lavos's shell? Is Lavos dead or dormant after making babies?

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Lavos turned into Death Peak and is generating spawn to send to other planets. Destroying Lavos at its origin point and saving the universe from it would likely be what Chrono Break would have been about.

>i also have a BIG problem with detection. in the beginning i figured out right away that i had to walk to a building and find its name to enter. so i tried to go to the festival but nothing popped up no matter where i walked into
This is the most zoomer post I've ever seen.
Thank you for this gem lil'zoomie

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Gasper says he "reigns from high on Death Peak" - you just can't reach him there, presumably the way to him is impassible for normal human foot traffic.

can I copy this post and repost it now and then?

or is it already a copy? who owns the rights?

Bad character design.

I love its itty bitty version of Destruction Rains from the Heavens that still one shots, just with a smaller area of effect

this is all i can remember off the top of my head

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Not him but the lighting is a bit weird there and emphasizes the lines on the edges of the girder, poss. due to the 3ds backlight.

This is what it should look like.

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Easy as shit as long as you only hit the face.

Toriyama being a hack.

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I’m assuming you mean his head? If you look at the front of the glass you can see a single eye, behind that is his brain

LIke this

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The right bit can bring the core back to life. When it dies, the fight is basically over so the game saves you the effort of killing the core yet again.

Do you guys think Chrono Trigger could make a zoomer feel by the end?

I’ve always seen a Scottish terrier in a spacesuit.

Look, you're obviously retarded. That's all there is to it.

Lavos doesn't have eyes. He doesn't need eyes where he's going.

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Dunno user but chrono trigger has the most likeable characters in an jrpg bar none

>tfw you fight Lavos first phase and its theme breaks into Last Day of the World for a few phrases

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>Tfw going back in time and killing Lavos's shell multiple times

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It's a bit different in the Japanese version:
>Kingdom Year 1999
>It at last makes the surface its territory too.

>And then, just as if laying eggs, it gives
>birth to its own offshoots, one after another,
>from the place I named Death Mountain.

Question, if Lavos was manipulating the course of history to raise and harvest peak DNA that would then be infused into its offspring, why weren’t the Lavos spawns cute girls?

Lol that’s not what he looks like, that’s like the chancellor dog face from ff6

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Woolsey translation is canon for me

So I guess he's either part of Death Peak or atop of it, still making spawns. Maybe the Krakkers (egg-like monsters) are also Lavos spawns, just younger? Or ones that didn't come out right. Creepy thinking Lavos might still be alive and aware while you're climbing there.
I've only played his translation. I'd miss Frog's goofy medieval speech I think.

Asking the important questions

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The "eye" as a mask and the slits above that being the eye holes makes more sense in light of form 2, which also has that configuration

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You have to go inside Lavos' Shell to kill it, presumably there are maturing cute girls in the Lavos spawn that you defeat. You never get to see inside of them so it could be canon

Just because you make more sense of it doesn’t make it true, have you never seen toriyama art?

What was it bros? The robot village, or something else?

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The astrosuit is the creation of Lavos from the data of all mankind history

Because Lavos eventually got "timeless", so he was always there until someone defeated it for good with some bullshit help from the Gurus working within the shadows
Dalton still did take advantage of the situation though and fucked at least a timeline

That legit makes me a bit sad. Next time drawfags are doing requests think I’ll ask for a lavos-loli.

This is my favourite Lavos form, shame it's the one that has received by far the least fan art.

Why has there never been a release of Chrono Trigger enemy design artworks like there was for ff6?

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Chrono Cross was a mistake.

Well it’s kind of just cell though

Probably because it’s already the most completely realized and most visually satisfying form. Exceptional taste btw.

This. Why didn't they just let him make a tangentially connected game called Radical Dreamers? Why did they force him to shoehorn it in as a direct sequel and FUCK the first game as a goddamned afterthought with exposition dumps and sudden character personality changes that don't make any goddamn sense FUCK Square.

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Game was fantastic. Along with CT one of the few games I like to play over and over.

My parents let me play Chrono Trigger even though I was only 6 after begging them to let me after I saw my older brother's playing it. I started crying at this form as I was so scared and my parents didn't let me play videogames for an entire year afterwards.

In this specific instance it's regrettable that I give a shit about CT's story and characters, otherwise there's a good chance I'd agree with you.

I always thought that was his mouth.

whats that?

Cross is fantastic. Only thing wrong with it is of course the devs pulled a Xenogears and ran out of time so they rushed the CT connection by bombarding the player with text on the beach.

It is. user's just pushing his headcanon hard.

are you american?

it's an ayy it's not supposed to look familiar

Canadian. What does that have to do with anything?

chronocompendium.com/Term/Robot_village.html
We'll never truly know

moralfagging overprotective parents

I never got into it. I borrowed it from a buddy after beating CT and just fell out of interest. I think it was going from the pleasant pixel-art to the chunky psx 3d. I'll have to emulate it and give it another go

A completely alien being. Funny enough, that isn't even it's actual body, it's just using it's cosmic power to trick you into thinking it is. Lavos is so far beyond comprehension, that even 'killing' it doesn't do shit.

Chrono Cross was great. Just don't think about it as a proper sequel, it was always meant to be it's own game. The fact it has as many connections to CT as it does probably was more executive fiat than anything.

I think they didn't like their child screaming and crying over a dumb electronic toy. They were extremely strict and regularly hit me for even the tiniest things like not saying "thank you", chewing with my mouth open, or closing doors too hard.

If Corridors of Time can't make you feel anything, then you're already dead inside.

it's not this user is wrong but can't admit his headcanon is wrong
see this pic everything above the face is one the lavos core forms head

I think that's a little silly. It could have had another phase where Lavos Core can do some massive damage. Trigger was just a casual RPG though, so I guess auto ending a 'won' fight isn't out of the park.

the right bit is the core

Because it fused with queen zeal, I guess. The versiont hat fused with schala only did so outside of time and became something far beyond its origin.

Were there any hints to this in the game? I always wondered how they expected kids to find stuff like that out in 1995.

simple trial and error user

when something doesn't work, you're supposed to try something else until it does rather than autisticly repeat it forever expecting something to change

it's not like it was a grand puzzle or something

It's like if Cell got punched in the baby-maker while making a Jr.

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Lavos the parasite king

I never realized it before but the top part of his head looks like the time machine

you might be on to something user

>chrono trigger
>pleasant pixel-art
its one of the ugliest games behind mario rpg that ive ever seen

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I think you're just too used to newer games.

When you turn this shit on, try to enter the mindset of a 90's kid. These things were like electronic trips the park or w/e, where your mom didn't have to lift a finger to pretend she's a good parent.

Basically explore, explore, explore. Press examine/use on everything. Play to play and not to complete it (and you eventually will) - Go back to areas, you never know what you've missed. Revisit old timelines, press up against trees and screen edges. Experiment and explore.

The thing is I never played trigger as a kid and only just got to play it for the first time this year and it was just as incredible as people said it was. I was a sega kid so PSIV was my shit.

Chrono cross is shit though. I played that for the first time right after and what the fuck were they thinking. Was that the origin of all those convoluted story overdesigned JRPGs that seemed to flood the market from 2000 onwards? A+ soundtrack though.

Holy shit

>tfw you will never be a scholar in Zeal accidentally researching how to end the world

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If Lavos can become being that is beyond time, what's the original like?

the spoiler part is such a cute gimmick

That's what Jenova was before she got in that spaceship wreck and then beat up by a bunch of pissed off Cetra (the few she didn't mutate into monsters) and frozen for centuries and thawed out and experimented on and then hacked into pieces. But other than that she was cute girl Lavos that never managed to become one with the host planet.

I thought Jenova's girl form was some random Centra woman she took over?

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it's okay bruh, I cried when I reached Gnasty Gnorc. my dad was at work so my mom gave him a call and he calmed me down over the phone lmao.

>this thread

Lavos is a pilot of a biomechanical/mineral "mecha" Its true form is the Eye you see, except the last form in which it tries to trick you.

Xenogears was to have been CT2 until Takahashi and his wife Sora hijacked it.

Not took over, came into contact with, destroyed, and then mimicked her appearance. She is the female template that Sephiroth was "born" from.

I take it this is somewhere in all those expanded universe cash grab abominations?

Jenova's just a living viral colony - it's true form are its individual cells, which work together as a single unit (hence why the 'Reunion Theory' works - the cells are independent from each other, but can communicate and work together as a single unit to achieve a collective goal). The 'girl' form was the form it had assumed before it was defeated and frozen - a random Cetra girl that was in the process of transforming into something more monstrous to combat its attackers.

Yes, and will probably be echoed further in the "remake".

No, I'm pretty sure this is revealed in Ifalna's cutscene in the original.

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A shitty final boss

I went through the same thing having finished the game recently. Actually used cheats to beat him because I could not be bothered to go grind or to even re-do the first phase and I just wanted to be done with the game.
Good game overall though, but the final boss is a weird difficulty spike (and yes, I did do all the sidequests except for the DS-only extra dungeon).

Magus is the best character.
Ayla and Marle are great girls.

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If you take that route (Lavos's actions are just a part of his lifecycle and that's no more immoral than any animal killing things to eat and live) then it's okay for humanity to kill him, too.

>Except coming to the wrong planet, motherfucker
Maybe? There was that whole thing about him influencing the evolution of life and civilization to make it suitable for consumption (although apparently that was NA only? i dunno), so Lavos mighta fucked up in the same manner on another planet, too, by making the apex creature powerful enough to slay him. Thinking about it like that, it's gotta be pretty embarrassing.

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They expected us to figure out how to beat Giygas too, like and said, you just keep trying things. We got through it.

i wish I could get immersed in fiction this much

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You ever play a game with a notebook? I did it with A Link to the Past and it was really cool. I wrote down each quest as I did it, locations that had secrets I couldn't open yet, ideas, etc. When I finished I had a paper record of my journey and it's neat to look back on.

Somehow when I was ten I figured out how to download no$gb and a Japanese Pokemon Yellow ROM and proceeded to beat the whole game even though I didn't understand a thing

>tfw your mom played the original zelda that way and drew maps of the entire world and every dungeons while you were at school and then handed the maps to you to play the game with

your mom is a good mom

I noticed that once and wondered if it was supposed to imply he's evolving to a point that he is adapting to your party the only way he can, by being able to become an organic time machine to hunt you down before you get strong enough to eliminate him

>golden frieza with blackface.jpg

I like that theory

I love how he adapts Gato's Song too.

>Listening to the OST
I forgot that literally every song in the game is great

I honestly used to prefer the pixel art but nowadays I really enjoy both that and the psx 3d renders. Call it being young and stupid, now I'm just nostalgic for something that will never happen again