Why isn't this garbage banned yet?

same reason links are blue instead of gray/red/light pink

Literally the only thing stopping whoever goes first from playing solitaire for five minutes

You realize impermanence is a hand trap, right?

It's a good card for the meta though. It doesn't win you the game, just prevents the opponent from playing singleplayer.

>Using the far worse half of the effect
>not both disabling a monster and a zone

It's the Yu-Gi-Oh equivalent of force of will except it's 80 times better because you 1 for 1 your opponent with no other costs and completely derail their combo unless they lucked out and got 2 in their hand.

Because it was stupidly deemed as a necessary evil instead of just banning/limiting the actual problem cards. This is why we have shit like Nibiru and all the other cases just like it in the past. Release an OP staple to stop the other OP shit and retard players will forget that this is exactly what pushes the power creep issue.

>not running Called by the Grave

I agree with this in principal. This is part of the reason why we ban shit like Pot of Greed, because it would be in every single deck. It's just that good. Why would Ash be any different? Every deck has Ash, every deck might as well be 37 cards.

But Ash isn't as overpowered as something like Pot, its just good enough where it will be every deck but not break the game either. The problem with banning Ash is the game is fucked beyond belief without it, there needs to be checks and balances.

So while I agree that a card shouldn't be good in every deck and still be at 3, I also think its a necessary evil to stop degenerate plays.

>oh no I can't skip 90% of game mechanics to field multiple high level monsters on turn one anymore

That still feels off to me. Every extra deck card (and rituals) had their own color to call their own and here comes link, cramming on rituals like they don't matter.

play a real card game

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>Efombie
every time

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>newfag yugioh players complain that the standard format was just an arms race and everyone ran the same few OP cards
>every deck in the current format runs the same few OP cards, but the game just became more complicated to a fault
>newfags still shit on standard format as inferior

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>2011+8
>still playing yugioh
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>family guy

jesus man yugioh players are the worst

>play a real card game
Got any suggestions? Because I'm sure your pic wasn't related.

why are haunter and gengar such assholes?

>waa magic is superior
>there is no porn game based on magic
yugioh is superior

webm.red/waab.webm

Will Ash Blossom ever not be good? Unless they fundamentally change the game, it seems like it'll be part of every deck for the rest of YGO. That's a bit dumb.

Imagine not playing 6 negate Pendulum lmao

They simply won't ban certain cards. How many cards were banned over the past year because firewall dragon couldn't be banned?

They would rather have ash in every deck than ban fifty plus meta cards.

>card looks cool
>its complete shit
Whats its name Yea Forums?

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It'll be good forever and even if its not, one of her sisters will just take her place if the entire meta shifts. There's no escaping the lolis.

Realistically though, Ash will never get replaced by anything.

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I would rather they ban the 50+ meta cards. The power creep has gotten out of hand. If your game is so broken that every deck has to have 3 stop buttons to prevent the player from trashing you in one turn, the game needs to be reigned in.

Make a quick play spell or trap that lets you negate hand traps and then royally fucks them by drawing two cards or adding a card to your hand and a free special summon from the deck

Bring back traps that are designed to hard counter specific strategies and really fuck your opponent over for it, but put you at a disadvantage if they don't run those strategies

One of the reasons trap are gone, besides being too slow, is that they just suck. Only Solomon is worth it. Everything else is just really mediocre and not worth a card spot in the deck

>They simply won't ban certain cards. How many cards were banned over the past year because firewall dragon couldn't be banned?
Yep... This is exactly the issue. Ash is only seen as balanced because she performs as a gatekeeper to stopping cards that actually end the game. Remove those cards and Ash is just this busted "LOL NO" to everything card. This is what happened with Cyber Angels in Duel Links way back when but Konami finally went in and kicked out heavy bans.

>CA released
>Most busted shit (basically Firewall THE ARCHETYPE)
>release cards that are too good for current Duel Links to compete with Cyber Angels
>Now we just have MORE busted shit (Ninjas)
>Try to hit CA a bit more since it's still too powerful and also weaken others (Ninjas) by adding strong backrow
>>Now we just have MORE busted shit [2]
>eventually hit Cyber Angels
>Now the stuff left over is OP Ninjas and broken backrows that basically lose your opponent the duel if they get flipped with one
>hit ninjas
>now game is just backrow OPness people have to sac cards against to clear because there's no removals
>Duel Links as a whole basically ruined because not dishing out limits the moment an issue occured ended up releasing too many strong cards to mass limit
>every release after is now much stronger than the other because they need to deal with strong backrows

...RETRAINS NEVER EVER...

And don't call darkness metal a retrain cuz it's a completely different card

>Will Ash Blossom ever not be good?
Nope. Ash Blossom essentially stops you from searching the deck, literally every meta is going to be designed around this so Ash will never not be good. At best, she'll be crippled a bit as the power creep gets to high.

>set 5 decks become the meta again
who's playing ash in helmet meta?

Post absolute KINO cards

>mfw seething dracocucks/burnfags

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The ride... never... truly ends.

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>How many cards were banned over the past year because firewall dragon couldn't be banned?
I wasn't around for this. How many were there? What kind of online response was there? Has this ever happened in another TCG?

Every Level 3 non-effect Fiend that isn't some kind of knight or ogre. Also the Gimmick Puppet and Ghostrick pringles.

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Bring Max back to 3.

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>why is the card that makes the game a little bit less retarded not banned yet?
Reminder that if it weren't for the cute lolis, yugioh would be an even worse one-man one-turn game than it is now.

>I wasn't around for this. How many were there? What kind of online response was there?
Like close to 10 cards, no joke. People started wondering if Firewall had armor because it was relevant in the anime so Konami didn't want to ban it

Absolute cancer of a card even at 1

OCG cucks deserve this hell

La Cucaracha loves hand traps and is a force multiplier for them

Sure senpai

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How fucked is YGO's meta that fans are constantly crying for Force of Will to get banned?

just post the pasta

cute feet

Someone say retrains?

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Retarded casuals mad that they get stopped by a counterspell not realizing without Ash the game would be a fucking hellscape

Are you mentally retarded or just a fucking idiot?

If one card is the difference between the game being bearable and being completely broken then the game needs to be overhauled.

Ash isn't the problem, its just a band-aid to a broken poorly designed heap.

Rumor has it that Konami couldn't actually ban the cats because of contractual agreements due to the anime.

A dozen or so cards were banned for being OTK decks in combination with firewall dragon and it was still happening all the way up to fire wall dragon being banned. Two Konami employees even got OTK'd by it, which is supposedly the straw that broke the camel's back.

Ash wouldn't be a problem if Konami just did what every other card game does and block older cards from the current meta.

It's not the only, theres a reason other hand traps exist. They each deal with a certain thing. It's a balancing thing.

Anyways ash isn't getting the axe any time soon. Official waifu mat, sleeves, and deckboxes are coming on Valentines day ygorganization.com/feelthefeet-tastetheforehead/

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>Two Konami employees even got OTK'd by it, which is supposedly the straw that broke the camel's back.
Now that I wanna see.

>block older cards from the current meta.
Retard, it's mostly newer cards that are the reason the game is as crazy as it is now.

go play a real card game

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You don't need to make newer cards better if older cards are periodically banned.

Are you retarded? The newer cards will eventually become the older cards and no longer be playable, then Konami can just start from a clean slate again. This is common sense.

Pic not related, i'm guessing?

That's not how it works and you know it. Pokemon TCG powercreeps like fuck and it has rotation.

Konami is too afraid of devaluing older cards for players. Some people paid over $100 for their play set of Ash. It would sting if the very next season those cards would be worthless.

>Konami is too afraid of devaluing older cards for players
HAHAHA NO. Konami will reprint something 3 fucking times in a year, sometimes with the first only being 3 months after release. People pay big bucks on release to use something in events. They have no illusions on it holding value ever

What does this do other than deck you out before you get to play.

That's not the same thing though. A first adopter's Ash Blossom will be good forever even if the monetary value decreases with how it works now. But if the meta reset every year or whatever, well your cards are now literally worthless and can't be played at all. Players can accept reprints over time, players have a harder time accepting paying premium bux only to get shafted in a few months.

see

I said Rotation means a game doesn't need power creep, not that it prevents it.

getting resourses.

If your opponent decides to ignore the maxx c and continue with his combo, you will most probably get cards to either disrupt his combo, or destroy his board on the next turn.

Fuck Yu-Gay-Ho faggots they're a bunch of snobby fucking retards

A player won't have the motivation to a game that always feels the same

Yeah true

>run traptrix at locals on a whim to spice things up while my lair deck is under construction
>NTR fat ugly bastard looking dude running sky strikers
>open with imperial order
>literally scoops the second I flip it over on his standby phase
>game 2
>clearly siding in hand traps and twin twisters
>going 2nd next round pretty bad for traptrix
>dude clearly bricks, looks visibly upset the second he looks at his hand
>spends 5 minutes passively aggressively hand shuffling before setting 5 backrow and ending his turn
>open with mantis and 4 hole traps
>fucking jackpot just need atrax
>set 4 backrow and mantis into serra
>bottomless trap hole the raye he topdecked
>chain hole ash blossom when he tries to block my serra search for atrax
>watch him passive aggressively mill through his deck to banish 2 copies of ash blossom before almost slamming his deck down on the table before reducing his swing speed at the last second
>angrily raps fingers across the table as I go into my play
>scoops the second I enter my battle phase and drops after
>dude's been showing up for his tournament pack then dropping for weeks now
How'd I do Yea Forums?

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>Power creep is the only thing that can stop a game feeling the same

What decks are you guys using? I use 5 decks but one/two of them got fucking destroyed by MR4.
Quaser Turbo
3x Dinosaur Structure
Shinobirds
ANCIENT GEARS
Deskbots

>thinking you are allowed to keep a set card protected for a turn

Isn't it obvious? The harder your opponent goes in with his combo, the more card advantage you get, the more likely you are to completely decimate them the next turn.

Dinos
Pendulums
TRUE DRACOS

Based traptrix user

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Been maining madolche since release, but the choco princess is so stupidly expensive that I'm swiching to withcrafters.

I'll go to my regional with them next week. If I manage to win once I'll be satisfied.

>witchjobbers
I'm sorry user

how are you finding pendelums in MR4?
they fucking massacred my quaser turbo. (yeah i know it's power creeped to all hell and back but at least it was viable)

never heard of them, are they a new set?

>how are you finding pendelums in MR4?
Works great. Electrumite is a good card you know and the Endymion support really helped the deck out

i have altergeist and invoked built irl
i just want konami to print good and fun decks again so i can play something new

when did the japs start ripping off Magic?

they came out at the beginning of the year, but their not particulary good, so it's not a popular deck, not even on locals.
The smug won me over

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youtube.com/watch?v=JrqG4_fTBDc

Here's a current pendulum list youtube.com/watch?v=1tMXIwkiwto

Bitch I'm in the clouds, you can see me broad day
If you call me up I might get in where you stay
St-st-stone island, iced out, ain't no tellin' where I stay
If-if I'm gone tomorrow, I'll let them know it's okay
G-G-Gucci on my pants, I got roses on my grave
T-t-too many voices, I can't hear what they say
It's just me, my team blowin' dreams

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God I cant watch that video, is there a text list somewhere?

I wonder if it works well or if it's just a gimmick deck.
Quaser isn't really a good boss card anymore.
I just really really fucking hate links. I should probably get back into the game and get used to them but I'm still salty they destroyed quaser and deskbots kinda.

How nice of Konami to make such a comprehensive demonstration of why MR4 is utter garbage by "updating" this game to it and completely breaking all the story mode fights.

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Just Zombie World right now. Ballerdroch is a cool guy but super polying into Dragonecro has been fun too.

Always enjoyed Gadgets but I'm not sure if I dig the recent "support".

Practically everything Neos related when it they're without supports specifically made for Neos

Gagaga structure deck with new XYZs when?
How are they gonna make an archetype that can can make xyzs from rank 1-10 but only have 2 rank 4 xyz monsters

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I have no idea what any of this means. I remember making a hero deck when I has younger but I guess that's out of fashion.

>Seeing user post Red Eyes Darkness Dragon reminded me about how broken REDMD was.
I swear he wasn't limited before. what the fuck did they introduce that made him broken again?

Dragon decks have always been good in like nearly every year of Yugioh

>Not chaining imperial order to his first spell

You're trash.
What's your deck list?

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WHEN?

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damn, i need to find a cheap budget rouge deck to play. I can still rely on my ancient gears but I wanna try out links.

It could go from being "good" to "format dependent", like droll and ogre currently are

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Flesh and blood.

Heroes are cheap. Qli aren't bad since their unbanning of shit. Also fun with how braindead they are.

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You dun did good, kid. Sweaty tryhards at locals deserve to get memed on.

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Masked Hero Dark Law is pretty great.

It's pretty much the only thing making Heroes a decent non meta deck.

Hey anyone have the SET FOGBLADE MILL FOGBLADE edit?

If someone didn't post a text list in the comment I threw it into ygopro

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Just for you user, I'm putting Traptrixs in my collection book.

Are my boys Noble Knights redeemed or are they still complete shit?

Still shit from what I've seen.

i feel bad wasting my time watching this shit webm

Man, I remember back in the day me and my friends called any new player a Slifer Slacker. It was all in good fun.

>Rumor has it that Konami couldn't actually ban the cats because of contractual agreements due to the anime.
what cats, and what anime?

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Meh. UFS is better.

I thought it had the option to turn mr4 off.

lol

Why do you boomers pretend like you understand yugioh? go back to magic the gathering you mouthbreathing retards.

>trying to do any Jaden or 5Ds duel with the story decks
JUST ADD A LINK MONSTER TO THEIR STORY DECKS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE MR3 FOR THOSE DUELS FOR FUCKS SAKE. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF IT BREAKS CANON

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Is YGO wirth getting back into these days? I quit at the ass-end of Zexal era and have only heard of equally degenerate shit like OP's pic and Firewall FTK since then.

Where is this buggo on link evolution?

>bottomless trap hole the raye he topdecked
Want to know how I know this didn't happen?

try doing the Yuma vs Astral story duel when the only xyz monster the game gives you is cowboy. It's basically impossible to do unless the Ai bricks.

Enlighten me.

I have a ton of retro yugioh holos from LOB through pharos servant or w/e. rares, ultra rares, that stuff.

Where does Yea Forums recommend I sell these? A local card shop or online?

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What will MR5 add friends?
Im betting a new card type that locks out your extra deck until you play them.

Any "sweaty" player would've just chained her quick effect to dodge the bottomless and still get out Kagari or whatever they needed.

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I was legitimate considering picking legacy up but that alone just told me to just save the money

Sell online, LGS will jew you out of half the value because that's how they work.
That said, don't bother if they're not in good condition.

They're all pretty good condition; they always went from the pack to sleeve. Lightly played, some of them, the other sat in a binder in-sleeve.

I wanted to use cardmarket but apparently its fucking EU only. Is there a US equivalent?

Because yugioh is so fast that a generic counter is REQUIRED to have the game be remotely viable after Konami shat on it for a decade.

tcgplayer

Wait, they don't even give you generic links for story decks?
That's retarded.

thanks user

how is this complete shit
literally seems like an upgrade and with a dragon deck it would be extremely good

Don't see the issue really. I mean, there's tons of more bullshit cards. The game went to shit the second they introduced synchros.

Requiring Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon to summon it is enough for it to be bad.

>that target

It's easily fucked off the map.

just use a card like ancient rules to insta summon blue eyes

Reread the card.

You dont play the game.
Shining require ultimate not regular blue-eyes.

>Still no Great Moth archytype.
Come on Konami, would be a nice for this to be one.

ah fuck my bad, thought it was regular blue eyes, yeah that sucks

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Vampire
Lunalight
Dark Magician

it has a ridiculous summoning condition. bringing blue eyes ultimate dragon out is hard enough in this meta. plus, in today's meta you can out this card so easily.

3k base attack with an extra 1200 (from BEUD and the 3 Blue eyes you used to summon) is strong, but cards like utopia can run it over regardless.

Shining dragon's effect also only stops effects that TARGET it, so raigeki, dark hole, all the mirror force flavors, and neo spacian grand mole still kill it.

not only that, it is still vulnerable to cards like lava golem and Kaiju's that instantly kill any boss monster with protection with no recourse since they are tributing the monster. And everyone runs Kaiju's in their side deck for this exact reason, to get over any big monster with protection.

you go through all the card disadvantage of summoning what is essentially just a big beater with no effect. It's an absolutely garbage card.

I wouldn't mind it so much if it weren't for its horrifically ugly design.

I'm not too familiar with all the blue eyes support out there but even a regular blue eyes tribute would be slow

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It's a veey old meme

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What link cards should I use in a masked hero deck aside from those 2 Xtra hero cards? Should I even be using those?

the noble knight one. that's the only one you need to run.

Come on man American Dad is actually hilariously written.

Make overpowered support for your favorite archetype

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Don't need to when the anime already does it for me; yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast's_Great_Fortress
But, if I were to throw in another one, A GB Fusion card that can pull monsters straight from the deck for Fusion might be a bit broken.

The standard boring links that go in every ED - i.e. Knightmare Phoenix/Unicorn, Borrelsword dragon why isn't this one card wincon banned yet? and maybe either Saryuja or Topologic bomber dragon if you still have room left over.

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Will there ever be support for Summoned Skull cards?

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Is one turn kill simochi burn still a thing? Fucking hated that shit.

>He doesn't know
GB Get new support , babi

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absolute cancer archetype and this card isn't very good but it is still rad

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not overpowered but a field spell or continuous trap for Buster Blader that hits both the field and the opponent graveyard and turns them into dragons before they can activate effects. Essentially superior DNA fusion. Call it something like "Destruction Sword Crusades" or something

>borrelsword
>banworthy

It only protects from battle which is almost unnecessary given its effects, so just hit it with any effect. Play fucking Mirror Force, even. I'm more scared of Borreload personally but yeah, Sword can at least fuck your shit up almost unreasonably fast if you don't stop it. I think it's the easiest of the Borrels to stop, though. It's more an instance of playing it correctly than shitting it out ASAP and just winning. Destruction effects are so underrated because everything good seems to protect from them so I get it, but Borrelsword actually doesn't do that. You can just target destroy that motherfucker.

not overpowered but a field spell or continuous trap for Buster Blader that hits both the field and the opponent graveyard and turns them into dragons before they can activate effects. Essentially superior DNA Surgery. Call it something like "Destruction Sword Crusades" or something

>Magician Girls

Can't be done, shit's just fucked bro. Love the cards themselves but I don't think that archetype can be fixed.

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>just draw your outs bro
>against a card that can OTK no problem
And this is ignoring the fact that unless you're running control/stun then the only traps you're likely to be running is the solemn brigade or Infinite Impermanence since everything else is deemed to be 'too slow' and they're both hard stopped by Red Reboot; a card often thrown in side decks specifically to stop the scenario you painted from happening. Or if you're running a particularly swarmy deck then just also go into Knightmare Cerberus and let his effect shield borrelsword from the mirror force.

Why would she be banned?
Ash is genuinely not that good. Every deck Ash is turn ending against is not playing in the first place, because it's complete garbage.

You've never experienced the hell of playing the game with 1 Maxx "C". All handtraps should be at 3 or at 0, nothing inbetween.
1 maxx C was a nightmare, because it turned the game into "whoops I drew the maxx C you wanna go or pass?". And unlike shit decks every deck in the game loses to maxx c.

What do you wanna ban that makes Ash Blossom obsolete? Do tell.
Nibiru exists as a "fuck you" to unoutable boards.

Pot and more importantly Charity are banned because they turn the game into "whoever draws the pot wins". We've seen what Light of Sekka did to the game. Going second against Danger TD is still really hard.

Fundamentally, the Ghost Girls are some of the best legal cards in the game, because of what they are designed to be.

They used to be okay back when they could make Rhongo and had Summon Sorc, but every deck that ran two warriors could do that, most notably Madolche.

Borrelsword allows you to push for the OTK, but that's all he does. He doesn't have negates, he doesn't have a floodgate effect, he's not a "break my board" card, he's one of the things you play to out big boards. Although, if you can make a link 4 the board probably wasn't that big.

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Okay then, get creative. Have bounce back/tribute/other obtuse removal option. As for KC, that only works when they're co-linked and it's hardly a "one card wincon" if you can get that running given their arrow orientations aren't exactly complimentary.

Wait, I forgot about the up/down arrows. Never mind that last bit, it works out. Still doesn't change the first bit.

>only knew rules up to GX era
>Hows the new mechanics? Is it "good"?

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You never played yugioh

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Ash blossom isn't even that good in the current format, Ghost Ogre is better

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I haven't played YGO in ages does the wording at the of her last effect prevent you from using multiple copies of her per turn?

What happened to 90% of cards being a western cartoon artstyle beyond one-offs like DMG instead of every other card being a generic anime girl?

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It was never a “western style”, whatever that means...

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Yes, that's exactly what it means.
No, it doesn't matter that you can only use 1 Ash every turn.

>>Played in old days of beatdown to Chaos to Goats to Monarch
>>Got sick of how limited the game was and bailed right before it got gud in 5D
>>Came back in 2012 and immediately fell in love with Madolces
>>Game had evolved to a point I was having fun with it again
>>Geez game sure seems to be amping up its speed doesnt it?
>>Oh holy fuck the game is so broken everything is a OTK now and my poor Madolches cant keep up anymore
>>The game is so busted they have to re-write the rules to reduce it being busted even if it completely fucks over old deck styles
>>Dont know if I could even enjoy the game in this new style if I try and come back like I once did
>>Holy fuck that was like 5 years ago

The thing is that borrelsword doesn't need to have negates or a floodgate effect since the only reasons you'd go into him is to either run over a bigger beatstick and then OTK or to just OTK outright. There shouldn't be a next turn if you're running him properly.

That's all well and good assuming you can stop him killing you in the turn he's summoned - I'll concede that Nibiru (which has only just been released) offers one such easy way of dealing with him since you'll probably use 5 summons to get to him. But even then it's a case of hard drawing that card against a card that is always sat in the ED ready to go the moment you can get a minimum of a link-2 and two other effect monsters ready on the board.

Crossguy is all you need, the rest can be generic cards

Why Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have a lot of formats like MTG ?

That wouldnt really be a bad idea for certain eras of the game when things would click and actually function for a little while

>still no Nito inspired new Skull Servant card

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There's [current format], there's traditional (which is a nightmare hellscape), there's meme formats you can make up like 60 card highlander with no banlist (except Hydralander) (arguably the worst format I have ever played) and you can always play one of the popular old formats like HAT format, LoB format (please don't), triangle format, Dragon Ruler format or Goat format (this format is garbage, thank God Cyber Dragon ended this)

This is just a better blue-eyes?? How is this shit

Ni**er

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>seething dracocucks
*tributes set trap card*
*pops set card with diagram*
*just swings over you with ANY true draco card*
nuffin personnel kid

Based TT player, fuck Sky Strikers.

Can't be better if it's impossible to summon. At least stock blue-eyes can be tribute summoned in a pinch.

Summon condition is abysmally bad and it still falls to non-targeting effects despite that.

There already is

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I wish they were better

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This entire archtype.

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>impossible to summon
Prisma says otherwise although it still isn't really worth it.

B.E.S.
Dear god help me the banlist has not been kind

I hope they print Swan Maiden and Nibelung's treasure soon. I also hope they make Nothung incredibly busted. I want to dab on scrubs with my Valks.

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Zombie World

The extra deck is not the main deck, user.

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Cause OP won't fuck off back to

MTG has way better porn than Yu-Gay-Oh

to balance this card and also counter those decks that can basically FTK you with a decent card in their opening hand
git gud

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Archetypes are too important

Outside Terraforming and Metaverse are at 1, what else?

That pretty much sums it up. It makes straight B.E.S. nearly impossible to play consistently and I'm not about to make a link deck with two or three bes monsters.

But the entire appeal of the game is to play whatever archetype you like. It wouldn't make sense to ban underpowered decks that never had a chance to shine because Konami literally cannot stop printing busted cards.

It's been awhile since I played this.
Are Bujins good now?

You know reprints are a thing, right? Because you're speaking like Konami couldn't reprint an archetype with additional support.

Now you get FTK'd if you summon more than 4 monsters

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Nibiru is not that good.

They're designed to work with Utopia

shitty meme for you

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Lightsworn Pendulums that can be set front the GY and can pendulum summon cards from the GY

>Not playing LOB only.

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just unlimit her and watch the FTKs roll in

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Even MTG's rotating standard suffers from powercreep. Why would i play a vanilla bear 2/2 for 2 creature when i could play a hatebear creature with the same stats, cost, and an effect on top?

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Yeah BTFO

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because this card isn't shit and much easier to summon

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Mobages influenced Konami

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>this card isn't shit
user...

>4k unga double piercing with good protection
And?

So how do you make your 4k unga?
Slapping it on the board turn 1 means the opponent just beats over it with Borrelsword or steals it with Borreload or something. It's easy to out.
Good luck making it turn 2.

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The god cards and sacred beasts

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>brainlet who doesnt even remember the times ash wasnt run

What if i don't have any loved ones?

>quasar ruined by MR4
you can make double blazar off a single Oviraptor now.

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a-any other koa'kichads here?
w-will we ever be rouge?

Just play the NO MORE ASH card at 3 in every deck. It's not even a bad card if you draw it and they dont have Ghost girls cause Called by is good against a shitload of things.

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How cheap/rogue are you looking for?
Cause with Hidden City reprint Subterrors are pretty damn cheap.
It's just a small Subterror core + whatever handtraps/floodgates you can get.
The best floodgate in this deck is like a dollar last time I checked. (There can only be one)

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just take out all the rock shit and koa'ki shit and you have a perfectly servicable meme stun deck

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Sell online. Also theres a good chance the majority of those holos aren't worth shit. Yugioh had a tendency in the old days to foil a lot of fucking bad cards no one played.

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Good morning

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Even just Sworns that set themselves in the pendulum zone when milled could be gamechanging.
Being able to get all those monsters out of hand with a pendulum summon could make Twilightsworns playable.
Also one Lightsworn Pen and one Twilightsworn pen would be tight as shit.

I really hate that shit.
>Try to get back into the game
>Look for some fun obscure archetype gimmick or rouge deck I can get on the cheap
>find a bunch of guides to get started recent ones too
>they're all generic link decks with only a handful of the archetype I'm trying to play.

I don't know how to play yugliohs so do I have to?

Based Joey dabbing on meta shitters.

u mad?

Because your game is so utter cancerous that hand traps are necessary now if you want to play the game past turn 1.

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>BLACKED:The tranning

Nibiru isn't even good, just make a board with a monster negate

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>You can just lie about this effect
>It's allowed

Why the hell would they rule it like this? What is Konami fucking thinking?

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Well, the reason it (and Lullaby for that matter) are ruled that way is that they don't actually have the effect of letting you see your opponent's hand (or deck) which made these cards far better than they actually are. And this is perfectly fine and I don't see the problem with ruling it that your opponent doesn't have to show.
Cards that do do that always specify "inspect your opponent's hand" or something like that. These do not.

The real problem is that you can't ask a judge to verify whether your opponent is lying or not, which makes the card useless.

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>Evilswarm
>Meta
Maybe 5 years ago and even then they were only just a semi good lockout deck

Is exodia still good? I always thought the idea of him was cool although I never got to actually make a deck for him.

dragonlink isnt even good

user... that video is 6 years old...

Exodia was never good, except in that short period where you had 3 Chicken Game and everyone playing the game wanted to commit toasterbathtub.

>still
>implying
Anyway no. All the draw cards that would help you are restricted in some way or another and most decks have plenty of ways to deal with stall. Even playing something like Mystic Mine isn't as good any more since Terraforming and Metaverse are at 1.

He's still the best alternate win condition.

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I got 3 copies of this card and i don't even play yugioh
How much do they sell for?

When I was young, this piece of shit was the worst signer dragon

I check today and it's banned. What the hell? Field spells were fuckin useless.

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wew I thought it was maybe 2 years old at best

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Powercreep is one hell of a drug

Quite an interesting scenario in which you ended with a playset of one of the most important cards of a game you don't play, but to answer your question it depends on what version it is and even then not that much.

Ash blusum has been reprinted a shitton these past few years. She's in 3 different sets this year alone. The most they go for is like $30 for a 1st edition secret and like $8-9 for the common.

>the worst signer dragon
Black Feather Dragon exists user.

exodia is a power check for generic draw. Whenever exodia is remotely viable it means that there's too much generic drawing power in the game and something is getting banned

That's what's preventing me from buying this trash. It was poorly done and poorly balanced. All story missions are broken and the only time you actually fight someone with a updated deck for the new format is just 2 dumbfucks that are complete shit. This game just sucks

I think it’s because some field spells have per over turn effects, but if you destroy it and activate another copy of it, you can just do that effect again. Or something

It’s weirdly inconsistent with the canon since LE allows the story decks to have newer main deck support, (ie Mai using the new Harpy Lady cards), but doesn’t see fit to throw in some Links, especially since most story extra decks don’t use the full 15 slots. Yusei’s deck strategy when summoning Shooting Star pretty much involves getting Formula Synchron sacked and revived to a Main Monster zone or going for Stardust first and using its effect to get out of the Extra Monster Zone.

Field spell powercreep mixed with a free special summon from hand made it too effective, particularly with any field spells that have soft OPT effects (e.g. geartown or chicken game).

Essentially this. Field Spells like Dragons Ravine and Dragonic Diagram let you use their effect once per turn, unless you activate another copy then you can use that copy's effect once per turn also. It's what people in the game call a "soft once per turn". Even its LP gain effect is strangely relevant nowadays because lol time rules

I love this card but its summoning requirements are too much.

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It was always a strong card. The main issue was that Synchro summoning Level 7 AND making a big board after that was somewhat difficult and the decks that could do it didn't play field spells.

These days every deck plays field spells and the extender effect it has is insane, given that you can just Destrudo for it.

Ancient Fairy Dragon is probably the third best Signer Dragon in the game.
1. Black Rose
2. Stardust
3. Ancient Fairy Dragon
4. Power Tool
5. Red Dragon Archfiend
6. Life Stream Dragon
7. Black-Winged Dragon

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People never ran a lot of things, that doesn't matter when we're talking about the current meta. Ash is mandatory in every deck.

>Ash is mandatory in every deck
Last format nobody even bothered playing handtraps anymore because you could just drop Mystic Mine.

>When I was young, this piece of shit was the worst signer dragon
How can you consider bad a card that grants you a free summon? This card was damn good back then and it's broken now. Powercreep.

Not even remotely true, and even if we entertained that thought, that has nothing to do with right now.

>from your hand or deck
>no mention of graveyard/RFG zone
Can you special summon it from the graveyard without the meme summon requirement? If so cards like Foolish Burial/Uni-Zombie make that a lot easier.

Nevermind the lists I'm thinking of were Worlds format. But the point still stands, you can just play Mystic Mine and out the board, instead of trying to prevent it.

>can only be special summoned
>only
No. You can't even bring him back from the GY even if you summoned him correctly.

Finally, an actually decent yugioh thread. Also keep Ash at 3, people who say otherwise are massive faggots.

The issue with that theory is that Mystic Mine does nothing in your hand going second as opposed to Ash or any other handtrap. So if you run MM instead of Ash and let your opponent build their board, they're absolutely gonna have a way to negate/destroy MM, while Ash can prevent them from getting to that state in the first place.

I want to lick her feet so bad

WHERE ARE MY REPRINTS KONAMI???

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called to the grave son

What is that bottom one and why doesn't it exist yet?

remember when mirror force used to be at 1

boskeletonrp

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>Ash is mandatory in every deck.
Gren Maju got second place and never even ran a handtrap. You dont just ban good cards because they hurt your fee fees, you have to actually learn to play.

It does though, that's Shining Silver Force.

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>Mystic Mine does nothing in your hand going second
user. People generally play Mystic Mine as a going-second card. It's always live when you go second, because your opponent MUST spend a negate on it. And you don't get to more than 2 omninegates that easily. Consider a standard GDTD board. You go for something like Crystal Wing/Hot Red Abyss, Colossus and Hope Harbinger + Skulldread. That's as big as you're gonna get. Current "big boards" aren't that big or hard to out.

If you have any card alongside the mine that forces a negate you break that GDTD board instantly. Just drop your boardwipe or book of moon or widow anchor or whatever you have, they MUST negate it or they lose their board, then you just activate mine and depending on the type of board they either negate and are out of negates or the mine goes through and you can out their shit normally.
It also shits on Orcust boards, because you drop the Mine and your opponent can't use Dingirsu anymore to protect their shit.

Mystic Mine is not a defensive floodgate, I don't know where you got this idea, beyond the retarded idea people had to play it in chain burn.

None of this theory really applies in current format because you can't get to your Mines as easily anymore, due to Terra being at 1 instead of 2.

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