Underrail

As you're continuing an old convo I feel I should link to the old thread

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>in secret
HAHA OUR GRANDPA IS SO OLD HE NEVER LIVES THE ATTIC WHAT A WEIRDO HE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED YEARS OLD LOL ANYWAY BORERS

The better jet skis seem to cost an exorbitant amount but is there any /real/ benefit to them? I'm a PSI user so I don't need mounted weapons or anything.

I've already wiped out the natives and made peace with the pirates so the land is (mostly) safe

Introducing the new hardest difficulty: APEX HARDCORE

-can only be unlocked after beating the game on DOMINATING
-items sold are worth 10% their regular price
-carrying capacity reduced by 50%
-grenade cooldowns are increased by 1 turn
-high efficieny energy converters nerfed to regenerating x% of energy lost to damage, at y% per round
-toxic gas simply deals bio damage each round/if moved through; no damage multiplication
-using psi abilities from 1 school will increase the action point cost of psi abilities from other schools
-forcefield functions as an energy shield against ranged attacks and has a certain amount of hp against melee attacks before failing (dependent on skill)
-all npc's have 30% greater detection & trap detection (bosses have 50% greater)
-bear traps dont function if they deal no damage, stronger enemies have shorter durations, and spotted traps use your traps skill vs their dodge
-some enemies (typically knife-users) will have black dragon throwing knives/crossbow bolts, and such traps can also be found
-trap location and type is somewhat random
-enemy placement is somewhat random
-npc's that spot traps or corpses will turn orange and search the map
-if spotted, all hostile npc's on that map will never turn back to green; yellow minimum
-npc's will not enter dangerous terrain (such as gas, fire, or traps) unless they have a clear path to you
-most hostile npc's, if they can't attack you on their current turn, will instead head for cover or distance
-if you are seen entering stealth in a controlled or partially controlled map, npc's will turn hostile
-each of the five tribal invasions will be lead by a boss tribal; old ice guy first, then eldran, then bone guy, then oyensorm, then magnar

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>semi blind
>wish I could scale the ui even larger, specifically shop/item inventory
otherwise having a blast

Nope. They're pretty much there only to dominate your wallet.

back to discord with you, faggot

Running at psuedo-4K is a challenge, but I want to see EVERYTHING

As if the house didn't do that enough.

Throwing knives are a support weapon by design so they're not really meant to be anything more than that, in fact their feats are theoretically pretty good, and the various poison infusions do help.
The problem is that even with 80 throwing 10 DEX, Pinning and Fatal throw you ain't gonna do shit against tin cans or some psi who just cast pseudospatial projection because this game is all about killing shit as fast as possible with as little AP cost as possible and throwing knives don't really do that.
Of course, the usual 95% misses on stunned enemies do make them worse than what they are, but still, they could be a lot better instead of being a gimmick for fights that do not really require that fatal throw for APs and something completely useless for actually tough shit.

The effects of the military-industrial complex

Anarchs RISE UP

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cant find soft padding anywhere in the starting area, ive swear ive checked EVERY merchant and the wiki doesnt list who sells it

don't listen to Yea Forums shitters. throwing knives/caltrops/beartraps/poison is a very fun way to play. emp for robots.

youtube.com/watch?v=Lf2xZClQw8M

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Do these maaf'ks do anything?

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If you put off the house upgrades, I think you just might have enough to buy whatever jet ski you want when it's still relevant. But yeah, the prices are overtuned and, honestly buying yet another rug or the third turret is far more important than a zone-ass jet ski.

It's called a city, cavewoman.

>honestly buying yet another rug
If only the dude was there to enjoy it.

I can't hear you through the filter.

It doesn't. I have a throwing intensive build (lvl14) and my throwing knives still have 50%-60% hit rates on the lurkers. Throwing knives desperatly need buffs next patch. Thank god for Grenades.

So who /is/ Bernie?

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>tfw too much of a brainlet to make a taser
literally cannot find one of the parts

Want to make a pistol build but the game has been so AoE dependent that I fear it won't be fun to play. Any tips bros?

Dating DLC only playable on Dominating+ when? There's an untapped gold mine here, Styg.

das right

freeze, bitches, freeze

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I loved gassing the lunatics in the Tchort base the same way too.

F

tfw you ask the Dude for his juice and he hands you a bottle of purple drank

electroshock pistols are aoe

Is Quinton the only person who sells rathound leather? Fred only ever seems to have cave hopper and siphoner.

where can I buy Electroshock Generators? Just finished the outpost quest in the beginning

Most, if not all vendors sell them.

Ezra. If not now, then when he refreshes stock, which is every 90 min.

Energy pistols are insanely strong, so strong you'll barely need AoE, and you also have Electric pistols for that.

i am currently hypercerebrixed up to 10 int
ferryman refuses to tell me about center which i am assuming is what gives me the feat
what do i do
as far as i can tell i've exhausted every other philosophy discussion topic

So, I got this version of the game. What am I missing?

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pay for it you cheap fuck

Okay I see thanks, and padding? It seems I can't buy padding and electroshock right now. is there a trick to speed up vendor times? 90 minutes is a fucking ton

Don't know him.

Here's your cigars.
The transaction is complete.

If I like the game, I'll buy it full+dlc :¬)

You're gonna have to rely heavily on throwing nets, flashbangs, and caltrops. As a capped dex+throwing character, you can place them anywhere you want with near 100% success.

Not sure if that has the expansion. If you enjoy the game please support the dev, its 25$ total for the full game and wonderful expansion honestly,

Harold. Or Lucas, maybe.
The timer speeds up along with the game speed, which is changed by hitting + or - keys on your numpad. No trick aside from that. Go out, explore, have fun and they'll have the stuff by the time you get back.

heavily recommend the expansion before playing vanilla, because of the speedup function mainly (check keybinds), as well as all the great new things it adds

And the fact that it's all integrated seamlessly together

>tfw your bros come to the rescue

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>allied hounds
EXPLAIN
Don't tell me I should have killed the king?

I fucking hate psi beetles

The ambient exploration music for Expedition is so comfy

At what point can I start the expedition expansion and where do I find the guy to do it?

mid teens is a good starting point
go to the eastern part of the docks in core city

Molotovs are your friend, if you have acess to them.
You'll find him in Core city.
If you can beat the arena, you're ready. That's actually a prerequisite if you don't have high persuasion.

You'll hate their skullfucking daddies a lot more.

Are dodge and block worth it regardless of build?

Alright, thanks user. I just finished up the Black Eels and went to Core City. I didn't see him there.

This game is kicking my ass but I cant stop playing this shit.

East of the docks area.

Thanks again!

Rathounds don't attack you if you're wearing the rathound regalia. However, Camp Hathor will.

Dodge /evasion isn't worth it at all if you don't focus on them. The moment you stop maxing them out is the moment they'll stop being useful.
Block is... okay if you're having trouble with melee enemies. More useful for melee characters who want to shield bash.

if ure in oculites
can u still "join" other factions to get in and use their merchants?

On hard, my max-agi can only dodge melee attacks 1/2 of the time, 3/4 if he employs jumping beans.
The absolute minimum chance to hit is floored at 10%, so dodge/evasion's a meme.

Uncanny dodge is very cool though, you can trivialize crawlers with it.

>Dodge /evasion isn't worth it at all if you don't focus on them
Too late for me then, just reached level 19 with 0 in both.

I'll continue being a glass cannon until the end

Yes, they're an entirely separate faction that nobody even knows about.

wait im retarded turns out i did get the feat
but i still kind of want to discuss the center with him and he wont let me

Someone in the last thread said not to discount the non-INT replies for getting him talking

Are there any oddities or quests or interesting places to explore in Underrail proper with your Jet-Ski? Or is everything Jet-Ski related in the African American Sea?

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A fucking job you broke ass chimp.

yes there are things around non-black sea areas

There's a few places to go to, unfortunately you'll have to go through various screens of absolutely nothing to get there though.

Yeah, I've found a few unique NPCs about and some oddities but it's all flavouring.

There's also the Rig but it had no quests for me

so at max game speed the 90 minutes becomes 18 minutes for trader refresh? I really have to stop pausing my game

45
Max is x2 speed.

There's these stupid pipeworks, south of Core City. Camp Hathor, the, uh, camp across the river, is also very worth visiting.
I don't think I saw unique oddities around here at all, though.

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there are some oddities to be found, but its all stuff you should already have

it takes me at minimum 1 health hypo per psi beetle, im trying to find newton right now is that about right? my knife is only 7-12 wondering if i fucked up

you did not fuck up
psi beetles are hard for newbies
molotovs can help but it's up to you whether you want to spend your money on that early on

sorry i meant 2

You should craft or buy an electric knife, it'll do wonders.

Isn't this a general? Take this shit to /vg/.

you'll be drowning in them soon enough
kys

why don't you move it there yourself?
oh wait that's right you're not a janny

Become a tin can

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you're a general

Just found tesla armour. Might wear this just for the A E S T H E T I C

drop off, zoner

that was the plan but ezra is being a cunt so I can't make a taser or electrically mod anything yet

>stealth decreased by 1000
Worth it

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Be a better man than I was. I couldn't keep wearing it after I realized even spiders chew right through it.

There needs to be a unique riot armor with a shield. Maybe a bladed shield that gives Shield Bash (and blocked attacks) a chance to bleed the enemy, along with improved crit chance or damage for shield bash.

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Is it a good idea for me to bring some electricity resisting gear to Expedition? I got myself a nice chest piece that has like 45% electricity resistance, and a helmet with 15% or so.

I haven't encountered anything that deals electrical damage yet. go for bio protection instead

Is there a reason why eldork decided to shill for tchort, is he getting jepettoed, or does he really believe in the mission

I feel the last part of the story was developed really lazily despite the setting being amazing

Bleh, I gotta find a good bio vest before I go then. I know the Aegis helmet gives some bio resistance too.

Lucas wasn't selling either? His are often better than what you can craft at level 1-3.

Spoopy ghosts do

>fighting carnifex
>tin can AR build
>getting fucked by all his debuffs
>low health and only enough AP for one last burst, if he doesn't die I die
>do it, it leaves him with like 10 HP
>the burst also killed a camera and procced commando
>hose him down with a second burst and win
I have no words

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Use your movement points to run up to them and always end your turn standing next to them, they only get 1 spell instead of 2 then because they back away from you next turn. Throwing nets are also great too because they can't run at all and are forced to use their shit melee.

I still think long coat Riot Armor is the most aesthetic set in the game.

They won't get near me as they'll be blinded by my style

That seems kind of pointless unless it offers as much block rating as an extremely high quality shield.

No you'll find electrical resist shit there that you might use in like one location, I don't even recall a single coil spider in the dlc

There's the 8 gig rip with the DLC, it's most certainly up to date. Get it now so you won't have to start a new save if you like the game.

isn't he just using tchort somehow to make himself live forever

Have you seen his psi? Or heard about his age? He isn't doing it for free, bre.

yeah thats what i was doing, actually forgot about the combat nets i got from doing the hopper quest made it through just fine though just ripped through all my hypos

also fishing is fucking great, i love that you dont need to do it one by one
nope

Spoopy ghosts are like doppelgangers, they ignore resistance.

now try it on dominating

it's a lot of fun

riot armor with shield, no coat
high frequency efficient shield
machete

I guess but, he said he can only get to 3 times life, I just figured since we never see the interaction in which the tchortists interact with tchort to be able to obtain this data and research, it doesn't really make sense to shill for it.

Wouldn't tchort just body the shit out of anyone who gets close, how can tchort possibly help anyone at this point

not if you get to 100%

Me after getting the 2x telekinetic punch damage feat

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>people breezing through dominating
>im constantly reloading fights against lurkers because i do half there HP and they instantly heal it all back
halp

>every armor set in underrail

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just hit level 4 on my stealthy grenade/knife build, I should keep maxing dex right?
10 dex
9 agi
5 will
7 int

How did he get it from tchort in the current state, it would seem that tchort is past the point of being reasoned with, unless eldork and tchort are best buds, we never see that arrangement though

Do micro-shrapnel rounds bleed effect stack? Just from reading the description this sounds incredibly strong. Like best ammo type in the game strong.

if you talk with tchort at the beggining of the fight it's pretty clear it can be reasoned with

And that's a fucking bug for sure. But anyhow he won't get to 100% with his own armor suit.

Thats why you give it bonus shield bash damage. That way the damage is around the same, but it also can bleed. Also it is just possible to make it a lower level unique item like much of the uniques in this game. Being able to get a decent riot gear + shield early on would really help.

kill them before they can heal or stun them

Why can't I be bros with tchort then, I was even willing to kill infinite waves of faceless at the institute for him

are you saying this is a bad thing? Most sets look pretty good.

Extract Humour is all i need for fishing related recipes right? or am i missing something

I always got a more killzone vibe for the metal armor. But if you're going to copy armor design, at least the devs have god-tier taste.

Probably but it doesn't matter, the ammo is shit, you don't want to wait 4 turns for something to die when using guns, if its not dead on a single turn you are most likely going to die

ya, that's it

>first shop reset
>ezra and lucas still dont have electroshock generators
i wanna die

I can't they have 250HP and I do about 150 if all my dagger hits land at best, there's 3 of them, and my only stun is flashbangs, which they resist anyway.

>Building has nine floors
>You can access two
Expedition in a nutshell

>Currently playing UnderRail while a Category 5 hurricane is making its way to come and personally destroy my house

This is derailed. I got water, I got food (including some MREs), and I have a generator but we'll just have to see what happens.

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Expedition will literally be your life in the coming days

Hopefully my handgun will be more effective in Expedition: IRL Edition than they are in actual UnderRail.

Those natives are tough, that feeling when irl sea serpents evade your pistol shots

you could look at them as a 16.6% effective extra damage with a 1 turn rampup since bleed only starts doing damage after the turn its applied, its literally no worth the time crafting them, W2C and JHP are better in all situations

That's what you get for living in America. You should surrender Florida and Louisiana to the elements, it would be the best for everyone. And nuke California to the ground while you are at it.

Why do you hate the Faceless user?
Also, rate factions anons.

Its literally karma punishing you for letting california exist

jfc this medical robot encounter

Biocorp > everyone else
They did literally nothing wrong.

I'M JUST A FLORIDABRO EATING MY PUBLIX CHICKEN TENDIES AND DRINKING MY SWEET TEA. I DON'T DESERVE THIS.

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Cause Tchort is evolution brother, but seriously even though I helped the faceless 9 times out of 10, they still turned on me in DC fuckem, and fuck their alien plot device, the last half of the story annoys the shit out of me

Forced plot devices everywhere

Also thanks Styg for putting literally 1 TNT in DC it's not like I wanted to craft bullets or anything for my best gun, I totally wanted to use a shitter 100 quality marauder 862 with no mods

Stay strong, zoner.

like unless you are a full time murderhobo its impossible to piss off the faceless, you just need not to murder them and thats it, and even if you kill the mind reader to save buzzer its still not enough for them to be hostile, they would be neutral

Is the deathman encounter even winnable? The handmaidens and stronkmen clog the doors as soon as you try and exit the office

trying to go for a sneaky smg build as a first run but i don't know what i'm doing, send help
especially with crafting since the only thing i actually picked up is that 69 is a decent breakpoint for explosives

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Literally all I did, I helped them in every other circumstance

I molotov'd the 3 fuckers that ambush you after you get the package for the guy in the bar but i only found one corpse, did the other 2 bug out of existence?

You sure do. Stop wasting resources with your retarded air conditioning, why do you need even your public toilets at 60 F? It's karma, the Earth is taking revenge. Now find a metro tunnel and found your own station.

>Florida
>Metro
Bre, we can't even have basements... the only choice is to found a tribe of unga bunga Floridian tribesmen.

It's almost impossible to fuck up your current build on normal

>fetish marshes
>surely there must be something good at end of all this
>it is literally living hell
>literally
>every map is 100 sneks along with their insect buddies
>finally reach the end
>it is...some high level junk mats and a unique shotgun that i can't even use
>took so long to kill all of them, some of the maps respawned
since i need to track back to my jetski

There are times when this game makes me want to enable cheat engine and these are the times.

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Kill the camera before talking to Deathman, then EMP those fucks when they gather around it.

listen, if you don't kill any faceless at all, and only kill the mind reader(which you don't need to, you can even save buzzer with no persuasion), they will be neutral, and if you help them in the 3 encounters and don't kill any faceless they will be friendly

the only way to fuck it up is by talking to the tchorists in DC before the faceless (or killing more than 1 random faceless on dominating, 2 on hard, 3 on normal)

did you think the crawler cave had something too

go find a black rock totem and start praying to the interdimensional snake, maybe he will listen to you and give you snake powers and tribal coke

how good is that 35% energy capacity feat?

I think the rat hound king move to that camp if you do his side of the quest. Next playthrough i'm going to do an asshole run

I killed al the faceless at buzzers on normal, helped them at the foundry

So doing the tchortist quests where I scout the source of the earthquakes locked me out then

They aggroed me first

Is the Gauntlet actually worth completing?

Well i did find an unique oddity there called mushroom patch, so it wasn't all for nothing. I didn't bother fully exploring though, since all my shit has rusted to garbage and i'm out of ammo and everything else.

You get 5 EXP. and money, so yeah.

very

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>stumble upon a stalker with an electric knife
>become death incarnate
holy SHIT
I regret not taking it over opportunist now, but now I want to get it the next time I have a feat available

wait till you get to the nexus of techsas

imo it isn't mandatory, looking back on it 1300 shields vs 2000 shields, it's nice but getting hit that much is a problem

if you dont move from where he talks to you, they shouldnt see you
you can either enter stealth or enter combat and find a better spot

So...how are melee builds supposed to do expedition?

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if you helped the faceless in core city and healed him then they should not be hostile even if you killed all the faceless at rail crossing, assuming you did not kill any other faceless anywhere else

just make sure you talk to the faceless first when getting to DC instead of going to the Tchorists, but if you killed the mind reader they will only be neutral and allow you to pass through their territory, they wont share information nor give you supplies

Use the Dolphins stadium for your unga bunga tribe. Dolphins are almost as good as sea snakes.

Ended up opening the door and starting combat manually.
Adrenaline + psycho temporal contraction and ran to the main hall. Used an EMP when they grouped up to delay them then force fielded the door for a while. When they came in I hammered them with electrokinesis and more EMP.

Blocked the office with one last force field to reset cooldowns then finished them off.

Fuck that whole encounter.

if you leave a jetski on the other side, you dont have to go back through
also you can get 100% resistance to both acid and bio

>using stealth
mfw

I have a stealth skill of 0 and am using tesla armour (-1000 stealth)

Grenades and pray. The hack creator didn't even consider melee for expedition and just doubled down on the PSI love.

Get gud my friend, why would you pick a melee build when modern firearms can hit enemies with pointy things from far away

nobody knows

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>psi
>melee build

Read the question again, slowly this time

one school of psi does not mean its not a melee build

I helped them only in foundry, the faceless in the cage I just left there, because who knows what bullshit he was going to pull if I let him out

Talking to the commander in DC aggroed everyone to me

Strangely enough the game gives you an alternative way for another, much easier robot fight in the same facility. The logic of it is beyond me.

Grenades, nets, traps-- the usual.

especially not temporal manipulation, the "everybody takes this for utility" school

im just recycling everything i find for materials, is this bad?

You don't because the answer to hitting a wall in this game is adding more PSI to your build.
Wish i wasn't serious but that's what the dev has a boner for.

its a point system, if you don't have enough points they turn hostile or remain neutral, if they didn't aggro when you reached DC then just don't talk to the commander and they will remain neutral, you don't need to talk to him

but if you wanted to be neutral to them you needed to atl east help them on foundry and core city, and if you wanted allies you needed to help them at rail crossing as well

Not necessarily, just dont recycle good loot, you can sell them for a good coin

I wonder if closeted fags think they're not fags because they only take 2 inches of dick at the start too.

How was I supposed to know the faceless would double cross me though

I already beat it obviously

so white items are fine but green and higher should be vendored if they arent relevant for my build?

>cheating with psi as god styg intended doesn't count if you play melee as secondary!

No my friend, the question is for builds who focus on melee only and who didn't even take the pill. My question is specifically aimed for the million fucking mobs who range you down from the sea and you can't even los to hit them or the million fucking enemies who swarm and root spam you.

feel free to trash my current choices idk what the fuck im doing

this is my first point and I don't know what to pick aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>the answer to hitting a wall on this game is just adding more grenades
>the answer to hitting a wall on this game is just adding more traps
>the answer to hitting a wall on this game is just adding stealth

psi might be overtuned but you are just crying because you can't bash your head against the keyboard and win by point and clicking on a melee build

I personally follow this formula:
If a piece of gear doesn't have it's weight x1000 in value I typically recycle it. So if a pistol weights 2.0 pounds I really want it to be worth around ~2200 or more, otherwise I recycle it and turn them into repair kits. Use those repair kits to repair things that are worth more than x1000.

they are reading your mind and you literally killed a bunch of them without even asking and left one of them to rot in a cage, what did you expect to happen

i have come to realize that I really cannot pick up the shit from every single person I murder, I ususally leave the fucking guns and armor behind now unless they're actually good, because turning it into scrap doesn't make it lighter

tchort consumed them

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He only picked cheater adrenaline, nothing else in that school would help him with 17 locusts, he obviously dodged their shit and used nades

Them to explain their mission without murdering innocent people and trying to kill me at every turn, I obviously don't mean them harm if I'm willing to be mind raped

well, then obviously the answer is good armor and counters, like escape artist

>assuming
Get off styg's wild cockride and face it, melee needs to get fixed.

They read your mind and determined that you'd killed a bunch of them though. That's pretty harmful.

Read this

Them killing hundreds of people and starting every confrontation isn't a problem, they're hypocrites

Fist weapons or unarmed?
Which is better?

no it doesnt
if you refuse to use the gobs of tools handed to you to fight monsters, robots, and people with guns, you're playing the wrong damn game
melee is fine, you just want to waltz through the game punching everything to death on ez mode

actually yeah, just play on easy and I think you'll have a really fun time

personally I think fist weapons are, if only for the electroshock or pneumatic modules, or having blades for bleed stuff

Well, it's not like you're unwilling to kill people when you do missions either. They just want their cube back. If people get in the way of cube retrieval those people must be dealt with.

>Got tortured by humans and turned into monsters for years
>finally throw their captors to mutagen tanks to get rid of them even though some escape
>have super powerful power source that godmen knows what they are using it for
>some human steals it
>expect them not to kill anybody who gets in their way of recovering it

the only people they killed trying to get the cube where buzzers guards since they probably resisted when they tried to barge in, people trying to get through the blockade they set so the cube could not get away and tchorists because well, tchort

Psi just need to be able to miss to be balanced. Also give some drawback to the psi pill for using too many times, like being less effective or making you go derrailed, like it seems to imply with the lunatics

Do both bleeding feats work with fist weapons? Are fist with blade classified as cold or blunt damage?

I literally showed up to their shit tier understaffed DC base just to help them in some way, they were hypocritical Borg low IQ assholes throughout the entire game with no understanding of nuance or reasoning other than beep bop cube, beep boop we attacked you first but it's your fault, beep boop we're actually the good guys

fists are mechanical damage
if you put serrated blades on your gloves, they can cause bleeding wounds

I played a machete agi skeleton and the only way for me to progress is through stealth and diversion

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Are the Faceless originally human or also aliens?

JFC I already beat the game on dominating with no PSI you mongleroid.
Just because you play babby PSI ez mode doesn't mean melee is in a good place.

Human altered with ayy and exposed to mutagen.

Both. Humans+fragments of the alien psi pillars+mutagens=faceless.

It's glaringly obvious you're the one who plays easy, since you see no problem with pure melee.

>Dealing with Elwood
>No stealth
>No traps
>No intimidation
>Had to build a silenced pistol that I wouldnt have known about if I didnt speak to every merchant beforehand

Took me a few tries, but he got dead. Anybody knows other ways to get his card?

Well, I only killed the assholes that shot me first, I expected beep boop commander asshole to understand that, especially after I helped them at the foundry, and especially after I talked to 6 but robot dickwad couldn't understand that with his metal head hand, and his autistic 00011001001 reasoning.

So basically you skipped most fights? i was actually about to ask if someone did a no gun/no psi run on expedition. How did you deal with sea serpents by land or the sea drakes?

humans, experimented with mutagen until they turned into mutants, something like the mutagen erza dropped on depot A but more controlled, on an earlier stage of investigation but that in the end wanted to achieve the same purpose

>Best way to progress as melee is not playing the game
lel, epic game styg

meant for

Firearms are stronger than knives

Was Ezra a bad guy all along?

git gud

Want to go there? Alright:
Spells don't exist so they should do 0 damage

>tfw 300 innate evasion + additional 500 from evasive maneuver
>tfw minimum CTH is capped at 10%
>tfw 3 out of 30 locust stings will still hit
>tfw 1 out of 10 unga bunga native net will land
>tfw weaver web shot immobilizes you regardless

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its actually 2 out of 5 nets, since thats evasion
yeah, you need escape artist, but since most of them wont hit you, you dont need it as often and you wont get fucked by the cooldown, especially not with LTI

Fine psibabs blown out, also knife fags blown out

I understand this is a role playing game but in any system where firearms are beside melee you should expect melee to be weaker and plan accordingly, you chose your fate

more like a emotionless scientist, he wanted to develop immortality and evolve human race (and he kinda did) , and it doesn't really matter to him who dies or suffers in the process

he doesn't seem to have any liking to torturing or killing, he just doesn't give a fuck, at most that makes him just a really big asshole

Bitch
Please

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Shoo pilltaker
Shoo

unarmed, duh

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>*ungabunga psi stun you*

God i want to try a melee build because i saw a really sweet stafff/spear that hits peeps with heart poison, but it makes more sense to run hybrid since it seems to boost it too

Weren't you the one whining about expedition not long ago? lol

Bitch I can equally dish hurt with my hammer and my hammer punches
It's called being resourceful

Come back to me when you have a bar fight with 4 Nagas and still survive

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>Pill popping granny
opinion discarded

t. normalbaby

What's wrong with becoming Walter White and cooking your way through the game?

nothing, warcrimes are an excellent way to play the game, you are likely going to holocaust the natives anyway so you might as well use the most effective method

the cheese is too pungent, my dear

far too pungent

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>that name
>that portrait
>that build
>those filenames
>and posts
you really are the gayest motherfucker posting in these threads

dude
warcrimes
lmao

You can speech him to come outside so you can murder him
You can pickpocket it
You can set burrower poison traps or mines on his route between rooms
You can flip the power switch which causes the guard to move and frees you up to kill him when the barman moves downstairs

>>that portrait
not him but I picked that portrait too because it's the most stalkan one
fuck

:v)

Honestly as much the natives deserve to be genocided, they are a culture that needs to be preserved. They are incredibly full of details and their lives have a lot of intricacy, i say just culling when they get cheeky is enough

Not him but it's really the combination of all of those things that makes the dude the cringe king of these threads.
Portrait alone is one of the more Ok ones imo.

When does the game gets good?

When you do

you can literally kill him with any amount of noice without anybody bothering you as long as you do it in a single turn on the hallway between the two gambling tables, just wait for him to go there, kill him, loot him and then get the hell out

>, i say just culling when they get cheeky is enough
If only you could replenish your base supplies and staff. They'll wipe you out given enough time and having to track back is a fucking hassle.

LET THEM DIE

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>2nd and 3rd shop reset
>no electroshock generator
I just wanted to zap bitches

Man, I did a whole journey to get that sil. luger.

should've just sprayed him.

I'm serious. I've just done that "restore the power to outposts" quest and now they want me to do a crappy fetch-quest.

When do I find out what happened to the Earf above ground? I just did the Junkyard.

gottem

You're just dipping your toes in. By the time you've finished you'll either have gotten good or quit the game.

You'll level up quite a lot in that section and get a lot of new skills.

You're literally on the very tutorial of the game
Either bail the ship now or force yourself to continue, because you're up for a rude awakening, Underrail does NOT hold your hand

Try getting to depot A quest and beating it, if you don't find the game good by then i'd recommend deleting Undertail.

You never do.

I think killing just magnar is enough to make the attacks stop, it did for me.

Never, nobody knows what exacly happened up there

You'll change your mind when you learn more about them.

>didn't beat tutorial yet
>when does this game get good

Is there an in-universe explanation for how they have breathable air in underground caves after the apocalypse?

I did and I still say to hell with them

to the guy who said the sneks wouldnt be able to get you from the beach water; I think they could, actually
they could shoot the aegis soldiers on either side and probably both turrets
the dumbass statue would fight with them instead of heading inland
you personally would have to stand in the middle north to avoid them, but if you're up there you're not really defending the beach, are you?

>zap knife fun as fuck and gives me aoe that isn't grenades
>goes through batteries faster than I can afford them
shiiiit

>finished you'll either
finished junkyard I mean

No. No explanation for how most areas aren't at maximum darkness either.

in terms of game mechanics isn't everything technically maximum darkness?
You could throw a flare anywhere and get ambush procs

Should have made another version of mindshrooms that provided light for everyone

Don't try to look too hard into things

>No explanation for how most areas aren't at maximum darkness either.
you get used to the darkness to a certain extent
bio luminescent molds

I'll take a stab at it. Most of the portrait selections during character creation have masks. So everyone your meet is using oxygen tanks and refilling back at home base.

People who think melee isn't good enough; explain yourselves.

You can get sky-high MP, your damage/round is second only to energy pistols and maybe crit-psi, you can have high dodge/evasion + escape artist, anybody can throw grenades for when you simply can't reach an enemy (like water enemies from land), you can stealth up to enemies if necessary.

Rathounds breathe in toxicity in the air and free radicals and fart out breathable, clean air
Humans evolved super fast to adapt to these conditions

i want to run a shot gun build. how shitty will my life be.

the way traders work is pissing me off

Have you done expedition on a melee build? Nades are fine, but have you done it FULLY?

Most places are just average light instead of none, even when there aren't any light sources around. Really, you shouldn't be able to see at all when you're in the cave areas. It should just be a black screen until you turn on nv/use flares.

140% incurred mechanical threshold

i don't mind but it's a fucking pain

I just wish they had more fucking money and no, I'm not wasting a feat increase their reserves

There is a ton of bioluminescence in there man, i assume, the psi shrooms are eveyrwhere

So I am on a magical Journey with the Dude and I ended up in some army base. Now, I don't wanna sound like a murder hobo but trying to sneak in this place is a pain the ass. Can I just kill them? Or does it fuck up the quest?

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Quite a few people might know, actually. Of the people we know Ezra definitely does, and Dude might if he hasn't forgot form all the brew. Ayys likely know too, whether they give a fuck is a different matter.

I guess it's time to try this in my backlog
should I get dlc now?

not without temporal manipulation, but its not like that blinds me

well, okay, against heavily armored enemies that sucks
but you aren't restricted to just fist weapons you know

The doctor in the expedition seems to know quite a bit too, he said the sun there is covered for instance, so it is the usual nuke apocalipse

you can kill them without any negative consequences.

doc savage?

how should I build a gun/psi build

20 CON 10 STR Invincible hammerer or 19 STR 10 CON Balor's hammer.
P.S No gay mind powers.

>but trying to sneak in this place is a pain the ass
Get the uniform in the room to the east. EZ

The smart one

Not nukes, and not something sudden. The destruction of the Surface took at least several decades and was still an on-going process at the time of Lemuria's destruction. So the Surface died less than 249 years ago. Which means those who were alive at the time of Old Biocorp's fall 189 years ago may have been born in a world where the Surface still existed, or were of the first generation to be born after its destruction.

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The cameras still spot me while wearing it though

3 will and dip into temporal manipulation for free adrenaline lmfao

or

Metathermic Sniper, premeditate, thermal destabilization, then aimed shot. Become the south underrail human bomber.

Something is wrong then. Do you still have weapons equipped?

I'm just guessing, cameras shouldn't be an issue.

>less money than me, who fucking just starts living there
>sometimes doesnt have basic fucking shit
>||4 fucking resets later no electroshock generator||

This time seems way too short for people to have completely forgotten about them. We would have a ton of biocorp legacy alive, and people whose parents told about the surface, yet many people in the underrail don't even seem to know it exists

He is trying to sneak. He shouldn't try to sneak. Cameras pick up on it.

you kind of are when you put all your feats into them

Does a hammer psychokinesis counts?

decide what guns you want to use, what psi powers you want to use, then allocate points appropriately. i would suggest shotguns, sniper rifles, energy pistols or SMGs so you don't have to waste many points in Strength.

sledges have 2 or 3 feats and you dont need any of them to be good with them
so unless you dumped str you could just put on a lifting belt and start THWOMPing

And yet me shooting fireballs at walls to lure guards out is A-OK, even when people see me do it.

Shit is wack.

I agree, it's a strange reveal. But it is what it is. We can blame it on the lack of education in the south.

You can get the regalia without killing the king, but youll need persuasion.

I sold him another man's wife and he gave me it afterwards. Based chad.

Tranquility or Psychosis psi?

Which works best on Dominating, while I'm at it?

Why are the torrents for this game so slow?

because it filters shitters good.

because in spite of it's quality it's incredibly niche, which is why me and most people who play it aren't enough of an asshole to pirate it as usual.

Psychosis is for glass cannons, its follow up feat is Psionic Mania which gives you even more critical firepower at the cost of HP.
Tranquility is for people who know how to avoid damage altogether, its follow up feat is Meditation, a passive which increases your PSI pool by 25.

well?

>play glass cannon
>take tranquility

Fuck me, im level 19 already and doing the expansion, no way I reroll now

>Psychosis is for glass cannons
Hemopsychosis

Man I love Shield Bash

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YA WANNA KNOW WHY I HATE THE FACELESS BRE?

Ignoring their Godmen DNA, they were a race of slaves that threw their masters into vats of extremely painfull mutagen, dabbed on everyone, went into autistic seclusion, then became ultra teched, became roving autistic assholes who shoot people with 0 regret for whatever their objective is, then get their biggest treasure stolen, act like assholes, disrupt all of south underrail, and GUESS WHAT

THEIR MORTAL FUCKING ENEMY? ITS THE SCIENTISTS THEY THREW INTO THE VATS, NOW HERE TO BE A FUCKING PETTY BITCH AND TAKE THEIR DIAMOND HOSTAGE. HE ALSO CRUSHES ANYONE IN A HIGHER PLANE OF EXISTANCE'S BRAIN TO MUSH, SO ONLY HUMIES CAN FUCKING EVEN BE NEAR IT.

SO NOW, YOU HAVE TO BE THE FUCKING DELIVERY MAILBOY TO KILL A GESTATING ELDRITCH PSIONIC GOD MADE OF OLD SCIENTISTS JUST TO SETTLE A GRUDGE SO THE FACELESS, THE MOST AUTISTIC FUCKS IN THE ENTIRE RAIL, GET THEIR AAA BATERIES FOR THEIR LIFE SUPPORT AND DILDO PACKS.

They are scum.

How are you supposed to infiltrate Epione Lab? Is there a secret entrance somewhere? The guard at the front sees right through stealth.

then you need higher stealth

or just go in guns blazing

how high is your stealth skill? i slipped past him no problem then knifed his friends then him.

I fucked up by entering the lab normally first and talking to him. I reloaded an earlier autosave, entered the map while stealthed and was fine. Whoops.

its a very niche game and its really good, so most people felt like they should buy it rather than pirate, and those who pirated it ended up buying it, so there is very few seeders

They just exterminated NTF aka humanities best hope of actually regaining the surface other than mutating themselves into tentacle monsters. No biggie.

Oculites>SGS=Dronies=Ferryman>Pirates>Coretech>JKK=Praetorian>POWERGAP>Tchortlefucks>Tin Cans=Aegis

you have to make it at least a little subtle or else all you catch is the most autistic spergs

You feel uneasy as you approach the darkening tunnel. Something doesn't feel quite right. It's as though the darkness ahead is more than just the absence of light.

Faster than light has more online players than this shilled game. Fuck you shills

Stop describing your moms asshole

Thanks for bumping the thread for us, pedo

NFT was so great a giant alien rock felt the need to fall on top of them and alert Biocorp to their existence.

>ferryman and yngwar seem to really emphasize where the guy got hit by a rock for some reason
>get to the native graveyard
>finally realize why they said that
man this game makes me feel good for remembering things

Are the social skills completely worthless? I have yet to see any tangible benefit to talking someone around or intimidating them.

Persuasion lets you avoid quite a few fights and skip otherwise tedious subroutes, or downright lets you do things you wouldn't be able to do at all.
Intimidation is similar, but rarer, in turn it has synergy with Yell.
Mercantile breaks the game with crafting.

>drones not last

your list is garbage

convince me not to abandon my sneak knife playthrough for a full psi playthrough

>...but misses
>...but misses
>...but misses
>Load latest save file

I can't convince you to not be a faggot user, it's your life

pretty based
dunno about the pirates though

I wonder who might be behind this post

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Eye=SGS=Tchort(Institute)>Ferrymen>Whatever CoreShmity bollocks>Aegis>>Pirates>Tincans=Protectcare>who cares

You may not like it but this is the truth.

WHY IS TEMPORAL DISTORTION SO FUCKING LOUD

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>Tin cans anywhere but in the hole under an ouhouse

your life is garbage

use dilate

Pfft, not even a challenge anymore.

Dominating really toughened my playstyle up. Started relying more on unarmed's amazing status effects to slow down and incapicitate entire mobs of enemies. Can't wait for the black sea.

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Wait until you get to the basalt caves where crabbos are louder than fucking landmines

never said tincans shouldn't be right next to the drones in the fucking pit

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Pretty accurate. But I want you to rank the Faceless too.

I hate that the game doesnt allow me to first bomb the cans out of South underrail and then gas the drones afterwards so the north fully realises it can go fuck itself in every way

Btw
I still chimp out and kill everyone in the Drone base after finishing their questline because fuck the North

When you think about it, its literaly all Northerner shit
>northernerfags deathquad going for a good old gassing and melting spree
>contrarian northernerfags going ahead and making a terrorist org for funsies and to screw with the military
>both hunker down and fuck shit up constantly for everyone
Goddamit, tin cans and tin shmans. Norf blows.

Cant wait to visit it in Underrail 2
time to blow up everything and turn it into the new south
Soft Norfcucks need to get DOMINATED

What is the easiest place to find a nice amount of red mushrooms to make a large batch of The Juice?

Ghostnigger leave

Man I wish stealth/knife got an incapacitate move that you can only use in stealth. Cut-throat is great, but hard to utilize if the majority of enemies are all packed together.

the black sea

Can I do a meme crit build by starting off with Recklessness and Survival Instincts or is that just suicide?

Cheap shots, flashbang, taser, etc

No its bretty gud did that on energy pistol build for 100% crit

Oh really? What stats does it need? I know CON 9 just to get Survival Instincts immediatly

This game looks interesting. Does it have replay value?

Well I went Dex and Per obviously

256 hours and i haven't beaten the game yet

All I needed to hear. Probably be joining this shitposting legion soon

It's less replay value and more reroll value. A lot of alt-itis happens in this game because you want to try out everything, but you have to be somewhat specialized to do things properly.

Did people just forget about Irongut for Expedition? It seriously helps so much against so many of the fauna and flora.

i've been rerolling basically the same build but with minor tweaks for 3 weeks, i know your pain

I'd say if you actually beat the game you can probably really get two to three significantly different playthroughs based upon faction choices, quest results, and build choices. If you play a heavy armor gunner character, then a lightly armored melee guy, then a psionic character you'd play very differently. Obviously you can mix that up (Lightly armored, fast moving gunner. Heavy armored melee) but that is the best way to do it in my opinion. My Shotgunner plays totally differently from my current Sword character.

I just want to be sure to emphasize again those are just examples. Even the guns/melee have different builds associated with them (Shotguns/ARs/Snipers/Pistols/SMGs/Energy weapons vs Fists/Swords/Spears/Hammers). So a heavily armored AR user plays differently from a lightly armored Energy weapons user.

So far I have played a fast fist character, a shotgun tin-can, and my current character is a Sword + Shield.

I know that pain very well. I even started over my pistol character after over 50 hours of playing because I was dumb enough to no go 3 str so I couldn't get steadfast aim.

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can you only enter hephaestus lab by doing the tin can quest?

>brap a guy
>WHOA LOOK HOW HIGH MY DAMAGE IS

C'mon man, its just for fun. I've crit for 2k on non brapped guys, though I did have expose weakness on them.

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Why do you have Taste for Blood on a machete character? Do you just proc it through kills?

No, I am gonna get myself the bleed sword from the Expedition (I am actually there right now). You can use that and hit once, or do a flurry, and generally proc at least one bleed then proceed to get your stacks up. I gotta admit I got a bit sidetracked doing stuff before the expedition but I didn't pick up the feat until recently.

SPEAKING OF EXPEDITION, WHY IS THIS DERAILED ZONER SELLING SUPER SOLDIER DRUGS?

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because you have mercantile
its actually a useful skill now

Thinking of doing a spear build using light armor and dodge/evasion.
Good or bad idea?