Why the FUCK did you guys not tell me this was a literal masterpiece

...

I wasn't really feeling some of the motifs. The Africa fire level was cool to look at, but was one of the most painfully bland cut together levels to playthrough. It feel like for every three bad levels, there's one really enjoyable well put together stage. But that's contrasted the dozens of automatic barrels, zip lines, and pully things to hide load screens.

well to be honest haven't played the whole game. but the few levels that i played seemed the same as dkc returns. and i didn't like that game much at all.

what levels did you play?
for me, I knew it was a great game when I played that savannah level with that uplifting music

Exactly, a literal MASTERPIECE. It gives DKC2 a run for its money

Games journo spotted.

You think i am b8ing but i'm not.

couple of the first levels. ye i know it doesn't give the whole view but it felt like returns. and i fucking hate that game.

It's literally just another Donkey game. Arguably worse than Returns if you ask me.

DKC4 Made by a bunch of Mexicans looks better than this god damn turd of a game.

youtu.be/x9cnQLuj6nk

Better gameplay too

People have said this in basically every thread we've ever had about it.

the first island is bland imo

youtu.be/v3JHRhTIFuA

youtu.be/d5wIIwBL784

I told you 5 years ago, you should've listened faggot.

>pretending that Yea Forums doesn't overrate the fuck out of this shit

Well when it came out we had nintendo SHILLING it which of course it's going to get good things

Then nintendo paid a certain amount of money to get a high rating
When the gameplay the aesthetic and music is worse than past games

DKC has no bad games, change my mind

literally gets praised in every thread where it gets mentioned

>Then nintendo paid a certain amount of money to get a high rating
it got several mixed reviews at the time, many complaining about the difficulty

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>6/10

They underrate it, though.

Mainline games? DCK3 was a step back from what made 2 ludo as fuck.

you do know that tropical freeze has one of the most infamously bad reviews ever made right.

its IGN giving God Hand a 3 bad

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Those "challenges" are dumbed down compared to dkc1 2 3.
Which makes the game feel worse than it was and the gameplay worse
There was no delay in old dkc in this modern game it has a delay.

Also the huge sprawling jumping shit where is the enemies you need to do anything with.

ALSO I REMEMBER WHEN YOU DIED THEY WOULD GIVE YOU AUTOMATIC BALLOONS

HOW IS THIS ANY WAY BETTER THAN DKC123

ITS FUCKING TRASH

But the gameplay and music are far superior to the past games, 1 and 3 in particular.

Fuck off, retard. This board has a massive boner for this game.
Same with KI U

step back i can agree with, but it's still a great game.
It just tried more different things in its level

well i'll give it a another try if i ever get wiiu or switch or new pc that can emulate that shit.

kind of blogpost but dkc1 was my first snes game. came bundled with the console. and i really liked it. also 2-3 later on. then there's like new dkc game. fucking awesome. then i just didn't like it at all. collectibles were shit, artstyle was shit. controls were shit. enemies were shit.
then try tropical freeze. it's the same shit. god damn

>Dull, derivative level design
>Harsh checkpoints during boss battles
Did they even play the game?

>but it’s still a great game
Kek

There are literally dozens of better platformers. It's casual garbage on an overpriced system

DKC3 > DKC1

Bought it because Yea Forums said it's good, and I hate it. It's a platformer where it feels like shit to jump. Fucking moronic.

>It's casual garbage
>casual
The absolute state of nu-Yea Forums.

>Villain has a redemption arc

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Where the hell have you been, Yea Forums has been talking about this game as the best platformer to come out in the past decade ever since it was released

I mean, there's no Wii remote this around, or forced waggle. Just give it more of a chance. Levels definitely get more interesting.

Playing this game made me curious to see what Retro could do with a Sonic game.
The way the levels are tightly designed to take advantage of the Kongs's momentum is outstanding.

>following Yea Forums's advice
>not liking this game
Can't tell which one is worse.

I based my statement off of this.
Nintendo got a rating of something low on this and it magically got raised up and there was some controversy with it involving nintendo and money.

This is one of the reasons I dont support Nintendo now a days.

Also I do remember this same thing happening with melee.
It was a 6.0 on some websites but it got brought up to 9s or 10s.

Ok
the level design is so big and humongous that there are no enemies that you deal with is better than a game where there is a constant stream of enemies where you die in one hit.

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Best 2D platformer of all time, although I still need to go back and beat Hard Mode.

I really hope we get another one some day.

You have to go back.

Back to a place with a better taste in videogames? Gladly.

New game when?

Top platformer of all time I should smack the taste out of your mouth and show you a good platformer instead

What I think you meant to say its casual

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Neo Nintendo cant do wrong!!!!

This game looks better than your bs

DKC 1 and 2 are better. It's a solid 7.5 out of 10. Production values can't bring up the pedestrian level design.

Name a mainstream platformer with level design or a presentation as good.

The only real flaws are that it's a little too easy in the first half and it's a tad too short. More animal buddies would've been nice too.

The game got trashed by people who were desperate for a Metroid game

Literally all of the SNES nes and genesis library.

TF has infinitely better level design than both of those games.

I did. This and DKCR are two masterpieces, altough the latter lacks a bit in atmosphere where this doesn't.

>YAHOO I GET BARREL SHOT AUTISTICALLY FROM THE FOREGROUND TO BACKGROUND 12 TIMES EVERY LEVEL
>10/10 MASTERPIECE WAHOO BING BING

It's a fantastic game and it might even be better than the original DKC, but the people who think it's better than DKC2 are deranged and not to be trusted on any matter.

Why does Nu Donkey Kong feel so soulless compared to the SNES games?

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>Literally all of the SNES nes and genesis library.
I would genuinely consider TF to be better than just about every single one of those games.

SMW is ass compared to every DKC game, though.

It's some kidde platformer shit where you control monkeys and collect fucking bananas.
By definition this can't be a masterpiece.

The only reason you might feel this way if you are an unironic nincel machildren that got stuck in the mental state of a 12-year old, like the vast majority of Switch owners.

There's only one Rare and plastic cartoon graphics a le Dreamworks are no substitute for this lost art form.

The gameplay is inferior to Retro's titles. Just the atmosphere (music/mood) is superior in Rare's games.

You didn't say anything about my complaint of huge open areas to jump in dumbs down the game compared to a game that has you in a correct platforming perspective that throws enemies at you.

THIS OPEN JUMPING BULLSHIT DESTROYS ANY FUN THAT CAN BE HAD IN THE GAME BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU NOT BE CHALLENGED BY ANYTHING IN THE GAME THERE IS NO ENEMIES THAT FILL THE GAME UP WITH 200 CHARACTERS THAT YOU NEED TO DEFEAT TO MOVE ON WHERE DKC ALL YOU NEEDED WAS TO FOLLOW A PATH AND WATCH THE STREAM OF ENEMIES COME IN.

IT IS A COMPLETE DOWNGRADE IN GAMEPLAY COMPARED TO THE ORIGINALS

I say they are both equal smb3 better than both my opinion.

And way better than tf

Nice
Tropical Freeze is a good game.

See

>this is the greatest platformer ever made
>press button
>monkey jumps half a second later
maybe it's great if you're just watching lets plays or something

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It isn't.

It's a downgraded game.

I want things to be added to the games I play not things to be taken away

It's no 3D World.

Why is it later 2000s nintendo made games that were so easy that it made the games more frustrating by lack of having to try in the game?

youtu.be/DKiBTMbJU2k

This problem still exists at nintendo

What was this all about?

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SMW and 64 were released in the 90s.

post underrated DKC music
youtube.com/watch?v=gpAH5My7dCc

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>citing Mike Matei as an example of anything ever
That's gonna be a yikes from me user.

>90% of the thread is one guy who prefers the originals screeching his opinion to six or so guys who prefer TF and are screeching their opinion back at him
why are all the TF threads like this
and why does that same guy come to all of these threads

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>Gorillas are heavy
Wooooooooow what the fuck Nintendo

>reviewers were paid off to give a game mixed scores. i have zero proof for this but they did it once more than ten years ago
this is how retarded you sound

Ah, yes delayed inputs really enhance the experience.

Thanks for proving my point fag.

>we should compromise gameplay for realism in our game about sapient monkeys being angry that they got attacked by sapient ice niggers

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Yikes is another word for your gay to me so I could care less about your 20 year old and younger buzzwords

The larger space is for you to use the Kong's momentum.
It sounds to me like you just never got gud. The game is finely crafted that every enemy and platform on screen is to allow the player to stay on the move seamlessly. There are very few "stop and go" moments in the game once you figure out how to capitalize on the level elements. The original trilogy is much stiffer by comparison.

seething snoy

There is proof all online you just have to look for it.

Nintendo imo hasn't made good games since the gamecube era

CAPS LOCK MEANS I'M RIGHT BLARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Yeah you have more room to jump but DK is both heavier and has more momentum going in the Retro titles. There's a huge emphasis on flow that makes for some very tricky but rewarding platforming. It's not a downgrade but it's certainly different I suppose.

>here's my claim
>can you prove it
>JUST LOOK IT UP IT'S ONLINE
OK sure man.

>le pretend zoomer

The game plays fine, dummy. There's no actual input delay and the games are designed perfectly to accommodate DK's physics.

>There's proof
>I won't post it though lol
That's not how you make a point, retard

This ain't sonic nigger.
All of that speed and generic big huge world avoids challenges.
Slowing down you can prepare for more things that might fuck you up.

If I want to play sonic goes fast racing game I play this which has been better than every mk after 64.

youtu.be/TtlyO9rc2p8

This is free
There is obstacles on the track
You can fall off the stages
You have to try to win
Items actually do damage and not one flip and continue
And it's about 10x faster than any modern Mario kart game.
Also 100s of levels and characters for FREE

It's just average imo. 3D World eclipses it without a doubt.

Nintendo didn't make Tropical Freeze.

I like it because it makes metroidfags butthurt and snoys seethe.

There's a ton of animation delay, which is funny because the original Trilogy has none, confirming that Retro doesn't know what the fuck they are doing. Tropical Freeze is the most overrated game in over a decade. GROW THE FUCK UP YOU LLIILTTLE NINTENDO NITCHES

We did. Several times.

It's even better than DKC2.

>the most overrated game in over a decade.

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All of Nintendo games are mediocre to past titles and they have a good manipulation tactic to make sure you buy the next thing

Toward the end of the GameCube era, Nintendo lost confidence in their own fans. Nintendo was losing market share with each new console launched.

Pride turned to arrogance. Ugly arrogance. Nintendo started to develop contempt for the gaming community. They felt as if they were being betrayed by the gamers they created. The marketing teams started to look at gamer focused strategies with ire and spite. says Mercury. The hardcore Nintendo audience was equally cast aside. Why bother? Theyre going to buy anything we put out anyway.

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>atmosphere (music/mood)
TF's atmosphere is god tier though, that's just your nostalgia talking. David Wise composed the soundtrack in both.

Meh... It's just another by the books, 2-D Nintendo platformer. Just use Super Guide and they tell you how to play each level.

>there's no actual input delay
I just loaded the game up and there's a very noticeable delay (not a full half second like the other guy said, but still pretty bad) when pressing jump compared to other games. It really doesn't feel good to play.

Tropical Freeze has the best vidya OST of all time.

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>THANK YOU NEO NINTENDO!!!

@476332462
Not even giving you your (you) because you still didn't prove jackshit.

Based.

*takes deep breath*

DKCTF > DKC2 > DKCR > DKC1 > DKC3

3 isn't bad but it's easily the worst of the Country games.

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TF is not and has never been better than 2. Returns isn't better than 1.

Where do the DKL games fit in there?

>Nintendo cant do wrong!!!

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What? Tropical Freeze doesn't have a Super Guide unless you mean Funky Mode

Let me fix that for you zoomy-zoom.

DKC2 > DKCTF > DKC1 > DKC3 > DKR

People who think 3 is shit haven't played past the first few levels.

Nintendo didn't make Tropical Freeze.

it is tho

How do you beat the pufferfish boss? I just can't get the hang of these underwater controls or something.

TF is absolutely better than 2 in every way, whether we're talking atmosphere, level design or even just basic gameplay. Returns comfortably beats 1.

Seems cool. DKC2 hack I guess?

swimming controls like ass and the inability to backtrack in levels sours it for me

still a great 9/10

YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER NINTENDO PAID FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THE GAME WHICH CAN BE PAID OFF IN REVIEWS AND NINTENDO TOP DOWNED THE MEDIOCRE ASS GAME SO THEY STILL MADE IT

Granted if TF got paid reviews, Nintendo would be the ones to arrange that, not Retro. Still, I doubt they'd pay for sixes or sevens.

>zoomy-zoom
I'm probably older than you, nostalgiaturd. 3's problem is its abundance of filler and subpar level design compared to every other game in the series.

You're delusional.

Yeah I think so looks very nice.

If you go to their facebook it's a bunch of mexicans on there so I have high hopes for the game

The bosses are unironically too hard.

@476332462
@476333205
>source is penny arcade
Zoomer confirmed.

Spin into his navel I think, when he blows up it's easy to hit that

CAPS LOCK MEANS I'M RIGHT BLARGHGAHGAHGRAGHGAHGAGH

Its either a wii u or switch game. Not fully emulable yet.

They don't. Nobody gives a shit about DKL.

This has to be a joke

And you're retarded. 2 is great but its title as the greatest Country game has been overthrown, deal with it.

This is one of the comics who made them exist today.

Without this one they wouldn't be around.

I gave you evidence and websites you can go to but you can just gloss over how your big company can do nothing wrong and you will buy whatever product they sell without criticizing it or seeing any problems in this.

The evidence is right there but your denial is greater than the evidence which people like you are good at religion things or political bs so stick to that what about the paragraph in the middle

No, I got filtered at multiple times by the bosses. They take way too long and are too unforgiving.

That's utter hogwash.

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i only played returns and the game was great but the motion controls ruined it for me, never touching this garbage again
>tfw rocket levels

Nintendo is overhead of the game dumbass he isnt wrong

You have to be 18 to post here.

This.

@476334120
>>I gave you evidence and websites you can go to
Nigger nobody cares. You claimed Nintendo paid off people for good reviews of TROPICAL FREEZE:
>well when [tf] came out we had nintendo shilling it

People ask for proof and you bring up DONKEY KONGA and go into rants about how Nintendo broke your favorite toy and poisoned your crops. Stop being such an autistic faggot.

I'm 30 years old and grew up with DKC, I've replayed 2 more than any other game barring TF. I can admit when a newer game is better without letting my rose tinted goggles cloud my judgment.

The flaw in your reasoning is that it isn't better.

I don't know why people are so protective of Dkc2. Tropical Freeze doesn't keep you from liking the game. It simply cements DKC as one of the best series of platformers ever made.

>Nintendo pays off reviewe--

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I don't like the new art style. Feels too smooth with no rough edges. Some graphics just stick with you like the thorn bushes from DCK2.

It was the era of Nintendo at the time.
Guess they didn't have enough money to get a positive review.
Like the free market dictates they would be rated to the truth of what the game is and nintendo would in turn have to create BETTER games in order to make up for the lack that they are producing.

Now instead they are just buying their way to good scores instead of taking criticism which = degraded games and less quality in all that they produce

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Metascore

>not a single website like ign.com nor gamespy

People are protective of DKC2 because they grew up with it. I grew up with it too, but nostalgia isn't an argument for why it's the best when Tropical Freeze has undermined it in just about every way that matters.

that's a lot of words you could have simply replaced by ''I suck nigger cocks''

@476334761
tldr, show proof next time we have this discussion faggot

Yeah I know you like to shovel the shit nintendo puts down your throat like a bitch and dont complain

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Except the fact they had( and still do) have 10 billion in the bank. I know it's hard for you that you keep being btfo every single post you make, but the simplest solution is to stop posting, you mentally defective midget.

You mad, bro?

youtube.com/watch?v=ecpMeFI4wyM

I didn't get to play DKC2 until I was almost in college. TF didn't undermine it in any god damned way. Which isn't to say it's not a spectacular platformer, but it simply falls short of its predecessor, and that's that.

DKC2 > Tropical Freeze > DKC3 > Returns > DKC1

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More money corrupts.
Everything has power when they have money

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I played DKC2 as a kid and TF as an adult. TF > 2.

There's not one single crocodile in Tropical Freeze.

Tropical Freeze is an improvement from Returns but that isn't saying much. Still felt lacking in some areas and no Enguarde is a missed opportunity and I already played it five years ago so no need to double dip. Still worth playing but it's a 7.5/10 for me.

Factually incorrect.

>heres my opinion
>no its factually incorrect
words are hard, I know

>Factually correct
ftfy

This is just underrated because Funky's Flights is even better. It's the music that plays when I get my dick out. youtube.com/watch?v=GKkRDIuknzQ

None of those screencaps prove anything. At all. How desperate do you have to be that you're submitting speculative gamefaqs posts, of all places, as proof of anything?
What's next, youtube comments?

I literally tried to tell you, Kyle

Post absolutely god tier tracks.
youtube.com/watch?v=WA2WjP6sgrc
youtube.com/watch?v=JCwlck3Xpms
youtube.com/watch?v=95HuSMQSUVo
youtube.com/watch?v=1d1jTRvxZkQ

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>That one review that says the levels are bland and uninspired despite it being the exact opposite

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>I didn't get to play DKC2 until I was almost in college.
Well you're a zoomer so your opinion doesn't count.

but I do everytime someome asks what the best platformer ever is.
Its not even close

One of these is enough proof.

Now they make sure you buy the next thing in line like the nice little consumer you are.

TF is a 9.5, easily a masterpiece.
2 is a solid 9.
1 and 3 are an easy 8.5.
Returns is an 8.

This.

I'm older than you are and I'm not championing a zoomer game over a timeless classic.

>level has exactly 0 flow
>good dlc level

I wish Funky Kong would have been a higher difficulty rather than easier. They should have put in Retardy Kong or whatever his name was as the easy mode.

Tropical Freeze should at least be a 90, but everything else looks reasonable.

>DKC1 better than 3
You got be joking, DKC3 levels and bosses are more creative than DKC1 basic shit.

>I'm older than you are
Unless you were born in the early 80's, I doubt it.

You can't be that old if you're incapable of admitting newer games can surpass "timeless" classics.

I like you user.

They can, this one just doesn't.

DKC1's bosses are noxiously terrible but I don't think that's overall as bad as how off everything in 3 is. It was made by a bitch boy beta team while the real DKC team worked on Project Dream/Banjo, and it shows. The same clowns went on to make DK64, so that really says all that needs to be said.

They can and this one does.

No, you are a mad little nigger, and no amount of you being a mad little nigger will change the fact you got no proof and need to stop (being a mad little nigger)

This still isn't true.

youtube.com/watch?v=IAfo6YI4KGs

Plus 3 had way too much filler/collectathon bullshit that later plagued 64. No fucking thanks.

3 is still a good game but it's absolutely the weakest in the series.

You posted some of my favorites already
youtube.com/watch?v=db9Ul5tVPP4
youtube.com/watch?v=Boqy0Q-4c_M
youtube.com/watch?v=JFP4wn0dejc

We sid

DKC 3 is trash.

close
DKC 2 > DKC TF > DKC R > DKC 1 > DKC 3

I would put DKC R at the very end but I'll take any ranking that recognizes the real MVP at this point.

What didn't you like about returns?

i have it but it's too hard without anything fun going on, it's not fun to go back through the same boring bland platforming over and over again, it's beautiful to look at and the music is great but the gameplay is garbage and frustrating.

Platformers are most enjoyed by people of high intelligence.

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It just didn't feel like the return of DKC it was billed as. I'll be straight with you and say the complete removal of the Kremlings is the main flaw, but I loved the Snowmads, and the Tikis were clearly just a fucking waste. It was just off in a lot of little ways that added up, like the ugly first boss that didn't really belong anywhere, and the smoothed-out presentation. TF was a blast, though, a huge improvement.

Returns did nothing wrong, people were just pissed about the tikis but the level design was top notch.

I agree with both of you. The tikis were really lame, but it doesn't detract much from its rock solid gameplay.

I'm a very petty man who loves crocodiles. The sunset silhouette level was awe-inspiring, though.