FUCK MAGIC FUCK DEMONS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FUCK MAGES

FUCK MAGIC FUCK DEMONS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FUCK MAGES

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Not based

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As you wish!

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I really don't get magefags.
>hurr durr people with enough power to unintentionally level a village to the ground should walk free and receive no education on how to control their power
I get that bioware decided that they're an analogy for whichever oppressed minority group is currently in vogue, but it's a stupid fucking analogy because they do in fact have power to fuck shit up. It isn't fear mongering or hysteria. Dealing with mages in the game is cleaning up the aftermath of their near cataclysmic disasters more than half of the time.

Same problem with the X-Men.

Dragon Age Origins has the best depiction of mages and how people interact with them in a fantasy game. Change my mind

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>muh tower
>muh Immaterium
>magic is ebil guise

Mages are the most overpowered class in the game by far, though

Wynn explains it pretty well that the tower is the mages own good, and that people that flee from it are just selfish and dangerous

That's because Origins was the only good Dragon Age. DA2 was okay, and Inquisition was fun, but neither game ever came remotely close to the splendor that was Origins. Despite newer technology, the world felt bare and everything BioWare tried to do fell flat on its ass.

True. The analogy just doesn't work when the fear and hatred are completely justified.
Wynne and Viviene were reasonable people given their situation. But really, with mages having that much power, the circle is an ineffective solution, as seen in the circles falling and succumbing to demons and blood magic at least once per game. The only effective solution for mages, as they are presented in the games, is of a more final variety.

Origins had also been in development since KOTOR's development so it really was Bioware's big, favourite thing

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FUCK ELVES

city elf best origin

play back through origins and you'll realize how insanely fucking mediocre the whole game is

Playing it again right now, actually
It's good and fun

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O found it mediocre even back then but there was nothing else out so I sloughed through.

>Inquisition was so terrible it made you hate Dragon Age as a whole

Templars are based and they also have cool armor. Mages are a bunch of faggots.

It made me think fondly of DAII

She's a horrible person and a filthy swamp whore but I love it.

she's a horrible person but then the power of grey warden love makes her good

Morrigan is basically Yea Forums
>NEET
>raised by a single mother she kind of hates now
>still lives in said mother's basement despite being an adult
>often contrarian for the sake of it
>edgy and mean spirited
>fedora tipping atheist
>sexually deviant
>socially inept and dysfunctional
>looks ridiculous on account of her inability to dress properly

...what basement?

If only she looked like her concept arts.

DA2 was actually a good game because MUH HAWKE

Why were none of the girls in the later Dragon Ages as good as Leliana and Morrigan in origins?

>She's a horrible person
Her views in DA:O are perfectly understandable considering her childhood, she just needed to be shown a side of things that doesn't come from Flemeth's psychotic mind

That doesn't look like her concept art though. Her ingame look is better than concept anyway

it made me go replay origins so much lost potential

She literally gets her personality fixed by a dick

DA2*

based and templarpilled

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I fucked one into my wife.

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look at this smug witch

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>He hasn't found the basement in Flemeth's hut
Ehm...replay it please

Don't be a fool. Magic can heal and protect. Don't curse something that could be the salvation of someone on the brink of death.

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Honestly why do they even teach any magic other than healing? It's the one thing they can do that isn't a war crime
Hell I can't even remember any mages hanging around any hospitals or triage

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>Supporting the (((Chantry)))
No thanks

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Based.

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You are exactly right, healing magic is pure and gentle, it should be respected. On the other hand, offensive magic kills many in inhumane ways and should be cursed.

>chantry
>led by woman
It was doomed from the start

SHE WOULD NEVER

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Because that doesn't stop them from learning other magic by accident or curiosity. And practitioners of other arts still exist hidden.

Sten

>Constantly travelling with this bisexual redhead that flirts with you
All it takes is one bi curious moment...

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Stop

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Oh no, it looks like I accidentally cast a spell! I guess the big strong Templar is going to have punish this little mage boy and teach him a lesson~

Sort of like X-Men being an analogy for whatever oppressed minority group you feel like at the time when there's mutants that can control the fucking weather or psychically control a city.

>and that people that flee from it are just selfish and dangerous

Not always. In some places the Templars are just straight up evil and abuse the mages for their own amusement.

Leliana is so fucking irritating and her comic back in Inquisition even if you killed her is fucking bullshit.

Yes, that's what you have Templars and strict rules for. It might not be perfect but they'll do a lot better if the information on how to throw fireballs and turn people to stone was burned rather than taught to everyone

I really like how when you're a mage, it's gives you extra intimidation options in dialogue, like the idea of one is terrifying to a population where mages are a very, very small minority and the mythology of the culture very explicitly states mages are responsible for darkspawn.

coming back*

How is there not a single animation of Leliana molesting her until she gives in

>DA2 was okay

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because when ever there's a blight, it helps to have support units who can launch fireballs and lighting bolts at them for as long as they can keep chugging lyrium potions. If you can indoctrinate them from a young age that their powers are a responsibility they're obliged to use only to serve their country, they're a much more reliable asset than the snooty fucking dwarves or the muderous elves.

Origins is the best RPG in the last 10 years it had more development time and effort than both its sequels combined

>Wear a helmet designed to strike fear into pussy ass mages
>If they want to talk to you they have to look into your intense eyes that overflow with Chad Templar energy
>Just staring at them renders their mana

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Morrigan is more scared of her mother than some farmboy in a metal suit

There is one about Lel massaging her tits while she bathes at least

Remind if you don't side with the Templars you're deluding yourself, Mages are superhumans born with a privilege only few people ever remotely attain unless specifically born as a Mage. Subscribing to the idea that Mages deserve complete freedom and impunity from different treatment because of their godlike powers is incredibly naiive and purposefully ignorant. There is a clear red line between prejudice of mundane people who can't help the way their birth made them look or act, and people who are born with mind control powers and flamethrower hands. They are obligated to the rest of the society who are powerless to serve the lesser masses, not to take advantage of their powers to rise to the top of society, which they always will.

Sounds like weak fearing the strong and banding together to drag down their superiors into the muck with them. Tevinter > You

>a horrible person
>a filthy swamp whore
FUCK YOU

Merrill a qt

In Origins it's more practical to side with the mages you get Wynne and magic is more effective against darkspawn, the templar abilities are useless against anything but the minority of darkspawn mages and there's plenty of warriors from Redcliffe and Denerim.

>powergaming

Is there now?

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The intro of Witches of the Wilds, basically an SFM mini porn movie starring mainly Morrigan

Oh yeah, no discussion, from a game play standpoint it's absolutely more practical and grants you better rewards to side with the mages. I think what that user is arguing is that from a lore/practical standpoint, the mages are an immediate threat with access to horrible power and they need to be heavily regulated. Look at Connor. Jowan, an amateur mage who never completed his training because the other mages could tell he wouldn't be able to cut it, taught Connor very little or practically no magic, and a young boy barely aware of the fact that he has these abilities tore open a hole in the veil, was possessed by a powerful demon, and started flooding his city and the outlying village with zombies. He's a legitimate danger to himself and the world and he absolutely needed to be kept under close observation and raised in an environment where his very particular brand of talent can be honed so he doesn't endanger everyone around him.

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Slave morality 101, if you're powerful and strong you must be enslaved by the inferior masses for their benefit. Because that totally makes sense. Honestly, as written in the games, the Mages are completely right to do everything they do, and if anything, should've gone farther.

Either the mages get enslaved or every country becomes Tevinter, ruled by mages and normies get fucked.

>tyrannically rule over country of normies with the threat of instant execution at the hands of any one of my lieutenant mages.
>accidentally let a demon out of the fade one night and he kills most of my magical governors
>run down to the village for help, in my panic forgetting that I am their superior, they're enraged to hear I've loosed a demon on them and beat me to death because I'm too freaked out to blast the aggressor's heads open with magic.

mages LITERALLY get possessed by demons
gotta lock them away

Not necessarily. Much simpler solution would be to kill the children who manifest magic instead of locking them up and feeding them forever.

You can still side with Templars and get Wynne, just let the mage leaders die in the final battle of the tower

But you can use them as free healthcare

Everything the mages have done for "Freedom and Justice sake" in the games have only proven further how they endanger society. There may be situations like the Avvar and Rivaini Circles which have a peaceful, non-aggressive group of Mages that don't have to worry about demons but that is because they are a deeply trained and very small number of Mages in both places. Kirkwall and Ferelden's Circle had a large amount of Mages and the entire city of Kirkwall is nearly destroyed because one, ONE single Mage took an action that killed thousands, in their own power. ONE mage. Imagine what hundreds of Mages like Anders would've or could've done not only to Kirkwall, the Free Marches, but all Southern Thedas if they had drive and resources to utterly destroy anyone they wanted. It is only by the fact they are scattered, leaderless, uneducated, and the leaders they DO have want peace, that they haven't wrecked the entire Southern Thedan Civilization. It is entirely within their power to do so.


It is not "Slave Morality" if you have the innate power to turn others into Slaves. This is not talking about people with superior intelligence and Muscles who can live in peaceful autonomy with weaker people. This is people with mind control, who can change weather, shoot flames out of their hands, conjure walls, shoot rocks, shapeshift and numerous other limiltess powers with infinite use. These are Gods among people who are Godless. To demand they be put on an equal field is putting the Gods in the position to be Gods.

Perpetuating mages is too dangerous, costly and involved, especially if all you get out of it is some instant surgery. It would be different if they could cure diseases (which is mostly what you need healthcare for) but the best they get is closing wounds