>according toIAmShify,Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'sfourth DLC character will be Ryu Hayabusa, the protagonist ofNinja Gaiden. >IAmShifty does have a pretty great track-record, which includes revealing Petey Piranha's inclusion ahead of the official reveal.
i don't think i've ever actually seen anybody get mad about the possibility of ryu being in everyone's just like "oh that's cool" and they leave it at that
Christopher Parker
Tracerfags btfo
Ethan Nguyen
Petey piranha..?
Brayden Rodriguez
at least it’s not another FE rep
Grayson Russell
Seems like an obvious conclusion, but I really want Doomguy at dome point
Adrian Young
Ninja Gaiden trilogy ports to the switch!
Matthew Scott
>ironic shitposters btfo wewlad.png
Carter Johnson
Will he be based off NES hayabusa or Nu Hayabusa?
Julian Brown
Probably NES
Thomas Howard
Because it's a ninja and ninjas are cool
Zachary Howard
Japan doesn't even know who that is.
Landon Price
>peteys inclusion U focking wot m8
Kayden Reyes
Can easily be both as his skins, with a mix of both for his style.
Luis Allen
Will have both costumes.
Jace Edwards
Alt costume will be the nu costume. Original will adhere to his blue NES look.
Kayden Campbell
>75% of the known DLC characters are swordfighters
I believe it.
>"hurr, joker uses a knife, not a sword!"
Whatever, fag. He swings it around exactly like a sword. It functions identically to a short sword.
Benjamin Hughes
Fuck Japan
Dylan Lee
Wrong, since people got settled down with meme picks like zoomslayer and internet meme lawyer they are getting upset that an obvious character like Ryu is going to "steal" their slot
>News about indie dev killing himself gets censored by mods >There are still 20 “HE’S IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” threads at once CLEAN IT UP JANNIES CLEAN IT UP
Logan Watson
>another anime swordsman
Juan Williams
shit pick another swordsman no love for spear users I'd rather have yukimura/zhao yun/lu bu
This is going to be the grinch leak all over again.
Wyatt Parker
I've yet to see anyone substantially back up that Shifty leaked previous characters. You know, stuff that couldn't be doctored. In fact, I haven't even seen anything that could be doctored yet, all I've gotten is "dude trust me"
Adrian Powell
She is just Banjo's weapon
Michael Russell
I don't. Enough making Doomguy into something he isn't
Lincoln Carter
The only reason I keep my 360 around is for NGB and NG2 so if it means we can get some ports onto PC and modern consoles so I can finally throw it out then I'm all for it where my izuna drop boys at
Jose King
I think Hayabusa is great on his own, but I feel like the ninja archetype is already covered pretty well between Shiek and Greninja. Hopefully they'll do enough to make him look and feel unique (assuming this is true).
Dominic Scott
Cool, now only pic related is left from that super Mario crossover flashgame. And it HAD a new entry for switch.
Just like Kirkhope shut down the Banjo rumor, huh? The devs always outright deny shit like this.
Isaiah Moore
Anime swordsman is a stupid meme at this point, people go to ridiculous lengths to pretend all the swords have the same playstyle/mechanics.
Ayden Roberts
Fucking hell what a rambling idiot. Script your videos and edit them for the love of god. Skip to 6:30 or so. Unfuckingbelievable.
Gavin Richardson
The fact that he says "Just a regular ass Piranha plant" instead of Petey Piranha and goes into detail about some of the attacks seems way more legit that any of the other leak videos I've seen.
Ian Wright
3 ninjas is too many? How do you feel about the 14 swordsmen?
Lincoln Kelly
neither is banjo.
Austin Bell
None of them are. They're all at our mercy. We, the gamers, are their gods.
Henry Bailey
>i followed the script the dev put for me to follow >im a god!!!
Elijah Davis
we don't need to make the problem worse Hayabusa also counts as a swordsman
Asher Mitchell
how do you feel about a ninja swordsman?
Kayden Richardson
Like they did with Simon and Richter, of i hope they do it with Ryu H, i mean even SF Ryu and Ken are based off SNES versions too.
Jeremiah Sanchez
I don't think it's a problem at all. Stupid meme.
Elijah Powell
Robin and Marth are about as similar as Mario and LIttle Mac.
Jacob Perez
Only reason why people hate on swordies is because of Fire Emblem oversatuation.
Easton Gomez
zoomers don't want him
Andrew Sanchez
If they add Ryu and a SNK character, there is no one else they need to add. Smash will be complete.
Lincoln Wright
This. Problem isn't necessarily sword users, but over representation of FE characters and that they're all sword users when FE has two other weapon classes.
Zachary Carter
>People
Nobody I have talked to IRL cares that FE has characters in Smash it's exclusively the online rosterfags that do nothing but whine all day. Roy is one of the most popular ones in spite of being the least important.
Gabriel Bennett
Smash 4 was successful in promoting Fire Emblem to the west, they can stop adding Fire Emblem echo fighters now.
Noah Reed
Did any of you smashfags even play Ninja Gaiden because I’m on the first nunchuck boss in Black, and can’t beat him
Cameron Rivera
It's like you don't know Sakurai's modus operandi to this day. He includes everything he can on the character. Like Mega Man having the uppercut from Marvel vs Capcom, Ryu having a kick from SF3... He'll make a good mix of everything.
Jackson Cruz
Hayabusa have lots of cool magic on the NES and cool moves in the 3D games and DOA. They can make it interesting.
Jose Nelson
No they didn't.
It doesn't matter the character, deconfirmedfags are always the worst.
Isaac Reyes
>implying axes and lances are the solution None of those characters matter today, and that wouldn't provide significantly different gameplay. Really the issue is sheer quantity and clones.
Thomas Wilson
Why is this a problem though? FE only has so many characters because you can make functionally identical, popular characters at low effort while being accurate to their portrayal in series.
>BUT MUH ECHOES >2 out of 7 characters are echoes >even when you completely ignore them fe still has more characters than the majority of smash franchises
You fags would get mad if Kirby had his melee attacks replaced by sword attacks with the exact same functionality. Having a sword doesn't make a character generic or bland, it's about how they play from a gameplay perspective.
Ayden Long
"Swordsman" isn't an archetype. It's a denotation for the type of weapon a character uses. Almost every sword character in the game plays differently aside from echoes. Yes, this includes Marth and Roy.
"Ninja" I feel edges closer to a specific archetype. Fast, nimble, light characters with good frame data, strong combos, fast projectiles, generally weak damage output, and a couple "trick" moves like Sheik's bomb or Greninja's shadow sneak. My only fear with Hayabusa is that he plays the same except he uses a sword instead of a fist for his normals. I want to see him use all sorts of weapons that facilitate unique gameplay elements.
Andrew Sanchez
I would be happy with only Black
Nathan Jones
>2 Marios >2 Bowsers >2 Samuses >2 Pits >2 Roys >3 Links >3 Miis >But 2 Ryus would be confusing
They can call him just Hayabusa like in DOA anyway.
Christian Rivera
>"Yes, this includes Marth and Roy." >Implying fire effects changes anything
Brody James
makes me wonder how you handle the final boss
Gabriel Green
>I don't know how the characters work Take your (you) and fuck off.
Jayden Jackson
what do I do to defeat the first boss? He blocks everything
Julian Reyes
Thanks. So it's looking like Hayabusa could be legit. Has he claimed this is the same source as last time?
Wyatt Campbell
Bait him into lunging or rolling, and then you hit him in hus recovery. Bait him by being at a distance. Alma is more of a hassle than the final boss desu, specially on Master Ninja
Levi Wilson
You gotta bait, dodge and punish. If I remember correctly the best way is to get close and then roll slash into his combo and follow with an upward slash into a landing UT
As much as I'd love Ryu getting in, he's far from guaranteed, regardless of this Shifty guy's track record.
Ryder Scott
There is plenty you could do with Ryu, such as various Nimpo techniques and possibly a wide range of his weapon arsenal such as his claws, bow, lunar staff, flails/nunchucks, shurikens, and dual Katanas.
Hell, it would be sweet if they gave him the ability to swap out different weapons
Juan James
Doom slayer is confirmed to not be the original guy
>Heroes >Banjo >Ryu Hayabusa Holy shit how will zoomers ever recover?
Benjamin Morgan
What are the odds right now that the 5chan leak was actually legit but Steve was just leakbait? Hayabusa just seems like an odd character to toss in. Not that requested, but not very objectionable, either. Fake leaks tend to go for one or the other.
Ayden Cooper
fuck the west and fuck westerners hardon for FPShit games
this crappy genre totally killed the last two gens. 90% of the western games were nothing but this braindead point n click faggotry. FPShit genre is a bigger cancer than mobas or br
Gavin Stewart
>Hayabusa armor Yeah, no. More than likely, it'll be his DOA2 outfit. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they just kept it to the Legendary Black Falcon outfit and the NES getup.
can you please NOT. shitpost for at least 5 minutes?
i mean, you wanted Ryu? fine! but dont go around shoving on peoples faces.
Logan Stewart
Wasn't there confusion and rumors that Steve was leak bait all along? Isn't that the reason why so many "leakers" were backing up Steve in the first place?
Camden Bell
>leaked user....
Caleb Diaz
Nah, for "complete" representation, they'd need to rep the FPS genre (Doomslayer or Master Chief, or even just both), the run 'n' gun genre (so pretty much just Bill Rizer), more Western representation with Rayman, survival horrors with Resident Evil, and Dante from DMC (gotta have the progenitor of the entire stylish action genre, plus it's odd seeing Bayonetta there but not him). You can throw Monster Hunter and Phoenix Wright in there as well. Also Chun-Li and Akuma. And that's not even going into first-party stuff, like a proper Ganondorf.
If we're talking SNK, I'd rather get Leona Heidern myself.
Fine by me, any character we get is cool. I feel like my top picks would be slightly cooler but only because I like them and they are already deconfirmed regardless. I only hope Ryu being in doesn't mean DOA being in, if I have to get DOA in I want it uncensored.
NES one or I riot
He means the goddamn plant duh
Camden Ramirez
Your designated crossover whore will never get in games that actually matter.
Kevin Hernandez
Run Hayabusa? What about Run Sazaki .
Noah Nguyen
Why? His series isn't really known among casuals and he's not a popular fan pick. I think he's more than deserving, but I don't agree with him being a "no brainer."
I'm guessing they'll do either Hayabusa Village or Sky City Tokyo, since those are the most iconic NG locations. At least when it comes to 3D NG.
Lucas Hughes
Obvious after banjo was revealed following the Google chrome incident.
If that is anything to go for the others are ryu and doomguy
Robert Lopez
Both. His moveset is going to incorporate stuff from the NES games, DOA, and the modern NG games and it's going to be sweet.
Not him but:
>one of the most iconic characters in all of gaming >series has actual history with Nintendo >NES games were beloved classics >one of the oldest vidya franchises, series was right there with SMB, LoZ, Metroid, CV, etc. >KT collaborate with Nintendo a LOT
I've been saying that he's a no-brainer since the Smash 4 days myself. Bring it the fuck on.
Samuel Hill
If you hate the west so much stop speaking their fucking language you wannabe nip faggot.
Austin Allen
Yeah there's probably a nigerian doom mod community too. That's a gargatuan leap of logic to say the character is known because someone mods for it.
Jaxon Long
I want to smash people with her rope beads.
Jose Hall
Yes, I believe so. So if any character on the 5chan leak was gonna be wrong it makes sense that it would be Steve. Minecraft content is probably still gonna be in somehow, though. A Mii costume is my best guess, which could also explain the confusion with leaks. A Steve Mii fighter would probably be almost indistinguishable from Steve as an actual fighter, going off of just screenshots.
Lincoln Clark
>We get two characters named Ryu and two blonde fighter characters (Ken/Terry) who look similiar >or >We get Mai Shiranui, who is 1 cm closer to having Felicia from Dalkstalkers' tits Well, I'm on board regardless. Any pick would be cool.
Isaac Price
>If they add Ryu and a SNK character, there is no one else they need to add. Smash will be complete.
>Nah, for "complete" representation, they'd need to rep the FPS genre (Doomslayer or Master Chief, or even just both), the run 'n' gun genre (so pretty much just Bill Rizer) >the run 'n' gun genre (so pretty much just Bill Rizer) he's in
The rhythm genre has yet to be represented too, though I imagine a music timing-based character would be extremely difficult to implement well.
Caleb Howard
I was actually just thinking about that while writing that post. I could see a Metal Slug itself getting in as an actual item.
Let's be real, if SNK gets a rep, it'll be Kyo Kusanagi first and foremost, most likely. And he'll have his own special inputs like Ryu plus a Max mode gimmick.
Also, forgot, Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct would need representation as well imo.
>tfw REALLY wanted EBA back in the day I'm still mad. So much potential for first-party reps that they never capitalized on.
Nolan Hill
God his original look is so dope compared to his later looks
Ryder Watson
>FPS with Master Chief and/or Doomguy >Bill Rizer or alternatively Cuphead >Rayman >Either Jill, Chris or Leon >CLASSIC Dante (we don't want Donte thanks) >Fem!Monster Hunter like in MvC >Phoenix Wright like in BrawlFan1's moveset >Chun "Best Gaming Legs " Li and Akuma >Ganondorf revamp
Let's add a little more to all of your "representation" stuff
>Indie icons a.k.a Shovel Knight, Shantae or >One of these four SNK characters will inevitably be a top pick: Kyo Kusanagi, Mai Shiranui, Terry Bogard or Nakoruru >Assist Trophies that deserve promotions: Waluigi (unfortunately), Bomberman (WHY SAKURAI), Zero (only if X gets in first), Shadow (I would have preferred Metal Sonic though), Isaac (only to stop whining Isaacfags) and of course Alucard >Mach Rider as the next retro rep
It may be getting way too crowded though.
Brody Jackson
I feel you. I've been an avid Karate Joe supporter since Smash 4 was revealed.
Aaron Rodriguez
Scorpion and Kilgore. Done. Easy.
Isaiah Stewart
If Ryu gets in, he better have an after image gimmick.
Nolan Gomez
I'd be down with all of this. I'd also like Sin & Punishment, Advance Wars, and W101 to also get reps. And MK and Killer Instinct as I previously noted.
Henry Lopez
>Cuphead stupid zoomers itt. Opinion discarded.
Brody Thomas
>I feel you. I've been an avid Karate Joe supporter since Smash 4 was revealed. At least I got my girl Dark Samus. But then they made her a fucking echo, so there's that.
Wouldn't Jago make more sense?
Benjamin Martin
Ugh, so I guess Banjo-Kazooie are going to be the only non-blade users in this pass? Jesus Christ, this game has too many fucking blade users. WAY TOO MANY.
I only put Cuphead in because I know very little about Metal Slug despite playing one on the DS and because it's one of the few run'n gun games that I know. The others are Mega Man and...*gulp* Mighty Number fucking 9.
Elijah Adams
Because nobody fucking cares about him and just see a ninja and say “oh that’s cool I guess”
OOO a blade user with a fucking counter. Fuck right off.
Xavier Murphy
If true, this is an 8/10 for me. Very solid picks all around. Joker is the only one here who arguably isn't "deserving" but he's still a fun surprise character.
Sebastian Carter
I'm still waiting or Viewtiful Joe to get in smash or even a straight up "What the Fuck" pick, like Blinx or something.
Nathaniel Lopez
Replace any of those characters with someone whos actually good
John Foster
Does this mean the Google theory was right? Are we getting Arty?
Dylan White
>implying hayabusa won't have a counter
Ryder Rodriguez
this would be rad but I doubt doomguy will be added
Nigga swordfighter is one of the three main fighting styles in the game.
Brawler Swordfighter Gunner
Ryu is a sword fighter.
Ayden Moore
Dunno, I know very little about KI desu I am more open with MK though
Yeah, Saki, Andy and Wonder Red need representation.
Leo King
OF COURSE he'll have a counter, I HATE blade users. They unoriginal, uninspired garbage PLUS there are WAY TOO many of them.
Nolan Martinez
Last thing people were saying about that, "artorias" triggered it because it's a word that appears in the title of a DLC and google used it as a proxy for the word DLC
Brayden Jackson
I like how the only way people can make these shitty characters sound interesting is make them Brawl mod levels of autism, get this shit outta here
Anthony Jones
Ryu and Doomguy would redeem Joker and Hero. Sakurai and his weeb shit needs to stop.
Leo Baker
It seems like it's just coincidence at the moment. 5th character could still be anyone.
Mason Flores
thanks
Nicholas Gray
Also, I wouldn't mind having a limited ammo gimmick. Maybe a healing gimmick where you have to heal with herbs and shit, with the idea being that Jill/Leon/whoever is really light (like, one of the lightest in the game) and has to manage their resources to survive. They only get a limited amount of green herbs to consume to ensure survival.
Juan Smith
There cannot be real life guns in smash. Joker's guns are BB guns, and Bayonetta's gun are not real.
There's a reason snake uses only explosive in his moveset.
Aaron Lopez
hardly anybody was backing Steve per se, even vergeburger just said "Minecraft" content
Lincoln Martin
joker's gun is not fake in smash
William Brown
Ryu has been an obvious choice for a while with Snake and the Castlevania guys getting in. Hope it's true.
Nolan Morales
They already are
Nathaniel Wright
>Yeah, Saki, Andy and Wonder Red need representation. I'm still fucking mad. Like I said SO much potential for first-party reps but they keep ignoring them for favor of shitty third-parties like Joker or Hero. I say that despite everything else I've said, kek.
>There cannot be real life guns in smash. Joker's guns are BB guns, and Bayonetta's gun are not real. Son, Joker's guns may as well be real. They literally look and sound just like real guns. Fuck right off.
Elijah Fisher
All I care about too.
Julian Rodriguez
seething.
Brody Watson
Starting to believe the only thing to be revealed in the next Direct is a reminder that Banjo is coming soon.
Brandon Davis
>normal guy with normal guns how is Leon interesting?
Isaac Bailey
They are. They are BB guns, play his game.
Christian Robinson
With Ryu in it will be another Xbox rep getting in Smash Bros.
Kevin Walker
>There's a reason snake uses only explosives in his moveset. Yeah, the reason being that Nintendo was much more anal about realistic pistols in Smash when Brawl came out. If Snake were added in Ultimate, he would almost certainly have a handgun somewhere in his moveset.
Anthony Reed
>>There cannot be real life guns in smash. Joker's guns are BB guns, and Bayonetta's gun are not real. >Son, Joker's guns may as well be real. They literally look and sound just like real guns. Fuck right off.
It doesn't matter if they LOOK and sound real, they are NOT REAL. Again, there's a reason Snake uses NO GUNS, but Joker can use his BB guns.
Oliver Campbell
> If Snake were added in Ultimate, he would almost certainly have a handgun somewhere in his moveset.
Well he was added into Ultimate. Yet they didn't update his moveset to add any guns, but many other character had their movesets change for ultimate.
David Johnson
(You)
Carson Evans
>8 min Yeah, fuck, i believe it
Levi Young
Imagine being THIS autistic.
There's nothing to indicate that Joker's guns aren't real in Smash. And it's not like it matters anyway since is more than likely correct and they've been portraying characters more accurately to the source material since 4.
Parker Torres
I already believe that + the fact that we might get the 4th DLC reveal during Banjo's showcase
Jayden Long
The uppercut is from The Power Fighters
Easton Johnson
What would the timeline for the last two fighter reveals be, then? I imagine fighter #5 will be revealed at TGA or in a January direct, but what opportunities would there be to reveal fighter #4 between the September direct and TGA?
Jacob Flores
I swear to fucking god, if we get ANOTHER shitty blade user with a fucking counter I'll sell my legit switch and just go back to playing smash on my homebrewed switch. I'm so fucking sick of smash's shitty roster and shitty DLC.
There are WAY too many characters being ignored for garbage Sakurai wants, or typical, uninteresting shit we have way too much of. I'm still pissed about Joker, he did not deserve a spot but was added because Sakurai wanted it.
Brandon Price
Dope? It's generic as fuck
Jace Lewis
>normal guns try playing the games before talking.
Jaxson Davis
I hope PS makes another Allstar game and just add fan demand characters and not stupid shit no one wants.
Sebastian Sanders
Please tell us the characters that you want.
Anthony Collins
>He can't find a single character he likes out of a roster of almost 80 characters Autism, everybody.
Jaxson Hall
yeah, but the gameplay is top notch, which is literally the only thing that matters. You sound like a snoyfag.
Angel Morales
Kys
Connor Davis
I'm telling you people. The Hitagi Leak was right except he just got Steve wrong
In Mega Man's presentation he cleared said it was from Marvel vs Capcom. So even if it is from Power Fighters, Sakurai presented wrong.
Luis Jenkins
>t. Your ass
Xavier Rivera
Considering that Ryu has more than one counter, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him one. But then his moveset is so varied, that they could give him another move as well. But with the way Ryu's counters work, they could always make it more of a combo starter than an instant kill move too, which would be unique and even fun, so I'm hoping if it is a counter, they just do that instead.
Noah Hall
Who else did Hitagi leak besides Steve and some gachashit character who he later went back on?
Landon Morales
Simple question: Has Ryu or DoA been on a Nintendo Console?
If the answer to both is no, then this rumor is just a rumor.
Zachary Parker
I played. Oh, he has a rocket launcher? Snake has one too. All the other guns are normal.
Gabriel Nelson
>Hitagi >The guy that said that Katarina from Granblue was going to be one of the first DLC
Yeah, nah. The guy has shit sources.
Xavier Wilson
3 anime sword fighters for smash dlc. wow sakubai how original
Austin Carter
Steve was planned to be in instead of banjo but got cut
Ian Johnson
KYS newfag
Levi Evans
(are correct)
Samuel Nguyen
Spyro, Rayman, Crash, Geno, Shantae, King Ying/Dr.Yang Combo, Waluigi, Sir Daniel Fortesque, Isaac, Shovel Knight, fuck most characters from fan request polls. Not dumb fucking shit.
Ethan Sullivan
Ryu and Ninja Gaiden(ignoring the arcade game beat em up no one cares about) started on the NES.
Eli Cooper
Original NG trilogy and the last game
Adam Wilson
>Has Ryu been on a Nintendo Console? Possibly the dumbest post in this thread.
Logan Sullivan
>blinx Dont make me think of that terrible grease fire.
Nicholas Moore
Yes, many times.
Luis Barnes
This is bait, don't answer it.
Logan Walker
Joker would be more palatable if they gave him a Flynn alt
Joseph White
>But then his moveset is so varied O yea, so many variations of swinging your sword with disjointed hitboxes and kicking.
Yes, multiple times. Kill yourself, you fucking casual.
Noah Barnes
WHAT WOULD HE EVEN DO THAT ISN'T COVERED BY THE OTHER NINJA CHARACTERS, I DON'T FUCKING CARE THAT HE'S ONE OF THE "BIG" NES FRANCHISES BECAUSE HE WASN'T THAT FUCKING BIG
It would make the most sense unless Steve is the fifth slot
Adam Cruz
>Enough making Doomguy into something he isn't A character I'd like in Smash? He already is that.
Mason Price
Name all the Ninja Gaiden games you've played to completion.
Robert Cruz
Down-B could easily be wind path, which he could go into Guillotine Throw (a command grab) from, or Flying Swallow, just like the 3D games. Or he could use some kind of ninpo.
David Cook
Yeah, this would be better. Ryu's counters were always about opening up the opponent to a combo, rather then a move that just did big damage. This would make Ryu way more interesting. Kind of like how Revenge only has a little bit of knockback and powers up Inceneroar.
The Ninja Gaiden trilogy is the epitome of chiptune. There’s not another series on the NES half as good.
Bitch.
Kevin Fisher
I hope this means the Ninja Gaiden games will be released on Steam
Mason Russell
>Yeah, this would be better. Ryu's counters were always about opening up the opponent to a combo Yup. I'm pretty sure this is how most of his counters work across both DOA AND 3D NG, so that would make more sense. It would give him a lot more room for combos. Which speaking of, since DOA and NG are combo-focused, he could be more like SF Ryu or Bayonetta, which would still be pretty unique.
DLC wasn't decided until November 2018. There's no way they would've had time to negotiate Steve, decide they want him, then cut him in time to have Banjo in a nearly-complete state by E3. If Steve was ever "planned," it probably only ever went as far as discussions in a board meeting. He was just leakbait, simple as.
Banjo was a popular N64 game worldwide. It's also a Rare character.
Ayden Nguyen
Or he isn't and the Steve shitposting got real old months ago
Easton Perry
Greninja and Sheik don't have swords (unless you count greninjas smash attacks). Ryu also has different weapons in the game and can use ninpo. And also IZUNA DROP
Nicholas Brown
>wanting a flowchart character God no. Both of those ideas are terrible from a gameplay perspective because it leaves him boring and either overpowered or mediocre with very little in-between. I'm sick of every new character needing some massive gimmick. Just give him an appropriate kit that isn't all massive disjoints.
Gabriel King
Hopefully the gameplay will be a mix of NES, modern and Doa.
Michael Clark
smash makes absolutely no mention of it in the game. As far as smash goes, it is a real gun.
Sebastian Gutierrez
>combos mean flowchart Nigga, are you retarded?
People got pretty creative with Ryu and Bayo combos in 4. And hell, people are still getting creative with their combos in Ultimate, plus Ken's as well.
So will the last DLC be Bill Rizer/Lance Bean from Contra to complete the NES Chads collection?
Lincoln Diaz
Well, one thing that would be shared would at least be a projectile of some kind. Ryu would probably throw his faster though and possibly at angles and maybe on the move? It wouldn't be the first time we have had a projectile A move.
Liam Martinez
And its been a dead franchise for how many years now? The most literal who of literal whos.
Jose Cook
Watch, he's gonna say "b-but if you pause the game and zoom in REALLY CLOSE you can see the keyring at the bottom!"
Carson Evans
im disturbed by your definition of creativity. melee's Falco shine is still far more creative than any shit gimmick.
Wyatt Bennett
It was a mistake in googles search and ad systems due to Artorius technically being the name of the Dark Souls DLC So when googling him with smash it would have the keywords "smash" and "dlc" hence the ads
Matthew Bennett
This will be his first appearance in a game since Dead or Alive 5.
Hudson Thompson
>Astral chain protag If we get this instead of Wonder Red, I'll be salty as all motherfucking hell.
Also, I'd much rather get Sylux instead of Rex. Rayman or Dixie Kong too.
Ayden Phillips
Seething. Absolutely seething!
Jayden Mitchell
>Fighter pass 2 No chances whatsoever.
Ayden Wright
>Best selling fighting game of all time They'd be stupid not to do at least one more pass
Carson Walker
Characters have combos without them being literally un-DIable because they want to "remain true to the franchise." There's very little creativity with the Shotos as well. Just because you've never seen it before doesn't mean they don't just use the optimal setups for either damage or a kill confirm. Focus attack allows for more creativity instead of their cancels.
Joker had so much opportunity to be 10/10. A full catalog of persona's to choose from, all with unique and cool attacks. The possibility of having alt's of other persona users.
Instead we got a sheik with a limit. Barely any references to persona outside of a color change on the stage + 1 or two music tracks. 0 references to SMT. Every spirit was for persona 5. What a disaster.
Connor Bailey
>heavy swordfighting emphasis and more powerful barehanded strikes to reconcile his Dead or Alive appearances with his more iconic Ninja Gaiden-derived abilities >Ninpo abilities as a more unconventional projectile than just "throw thing forward" >Izuna Drop which if implemented well could be a neat way to put a stop to people that overly rely on short hopping aerial attacks >rapidfire high-mobility shuriken throwing, not stopping to charge like other ninjas
I think there's a lot you can do even if you just restrict him to exclusively using his signature katana for melee striking.
Grayson Carter
>The only good character is spyro Cringe and the blueist of bluepilled
Evan Morgan
Finally
Camden Wright
>"Out of the way, Hayabusa, the REAL newcomer is coming through!"
Ryu's kind of a wildcard when it comes to "leaks," but Doomguy has been a weirdly persistent presence on them and whenever Hayabusa shows up Doomguy is right next to him.
I'm really apprehensive about getting excited or putting too much faith on it because those two rounding out the Smash Ultimate DLC would be the greatest grand finale in the history of things.
Brayden Sanders
Except Mario, Metroid, Zelda, Kid Icarus, Ghosts n Goblins, Contra, Dragon Quest, and a ton of others. Not to mention Mega Man, Final Fantasy, and Castlevania all three blow EVERYTHING out of the water. NG is below all of that, especially those latter 3.
Jaxson James
Corrin is at least a first party character meant to promote a recently released game at the time.
What the fuck is Joker? He doesn't have any historical weight to him and he's not really promoting anything relevant to Nintendo outside of a musou that's nowhere near release and the last fucking game for the 3DS.
Luke Clark
Shitty inclusion. Nobody wanted this shit character
Banjo was the bone thrown to westerners. Even on Japanese boards, Banjo was moderately popular because in their words "the westerners should get one character they want".
Samuel Rivera
A monster rancher rep or even Lu By if it had to be Koei Tecmo
Joseph Williams
>Spirit
Adam Gray
Shantae and/or Tracer
Anthony Evans
Counters are gay as fuck. His gimmicks should be that he can walk while doing a strong swing like he does in the OG trilogy (like Mega Man, his "forward tilt attacks" are actually walking while attacking) and being able to do a grab in the air for an izuna drop. Otherwise, standard swings and moves from the action games for normals, specials and some normals are items from the original games.
Charles Rodriguez
give me a moveset that isn’t a joker reskin
Aaron Sanders
>constantly fellates the NES era when the average person who plays these Smash titles were born 15 years after that consoles release
There's a reason you're seeing an uptick in indie characters and Steve in these "most wanted" lists, guys
Ninja Gaiden was not only iconic in the 8-bit era, but it also got rebooted into a new generation, a new genre, and excelled at it to become iconic AGAIN.
Aiden Miller
You can apply the same logic to any sword user.
Colton Thomas
super boring mate
Dylan Moore
>Tracer for Smash causes an uproar never seen before >this is just "Meh, ok"
I almost want the Tracer one to be true so you fags can cry forever
Ryu is cool as fuck tho, Ninj gaiden BLACK was kino, im totally ok with this guy
Isaac Kelly
t. seething zoomer
Eli Young
Mortal Kombat is iconic, this shit isn't.
You want even more iconic? How about Yatterman? They have games too and they are the greatest icon in the 80s and 90s, that ninja gayden guy is irrelevant
Evan Nguyen
explain ridley
Christopher Kelly
Wanna know what else was iconic in the early days of gaming and got a reboot to become relevant again? Prince of Persia.
Angel Stewart
fucking this. holy shit.
Owen Turner
>Fanrule Bruh Sakurai was sad that he wasn't able to put in Rex And spirits are specifically stated to deconfirm hence Porky having no spirits
Ethan Long
>wrestling throws and kicks >point blank range gunblasts like his RE6 quickdraws for a neutral normal combo, using automatic weaponry and shotguns for knockback strikes or follow up attacks >throwing grenades and eggs >using explosive bowgun from Ada cause why not at this point
Besides, he was using guns and knives before Joker was even ink in the Persona artist's pen.
Owen James
>Yatterman Don't fucking Kid yourself, no one remembers that shit
Except Mortal Kombat is fucking banned in Japan and they don't give a shit.
Eli Gonzalez
I'm not seeing it Ryu seems like he'd make more sense as a base game character and not DLC, he lacks that same amount of impact the others have >one of the most stylistic games in recent years from a series spanning two decades worth of titles, influenced part of Ultimate's UI design >the grandfather of classic JRPGs, massive demand in Japan >one of the longest requested characters in Smash history, a pillar of the N64 library >and then a character most widely known for his NES titles that fell off the wagon years ago that was barely ever brought up in Smash discussion prior to Ultimate's DLC it's like if they saved Simon and Castlevania for DLC, but even Simon had fan demand at least as far back as Brawl
Japan doesn't even make a third of the game's sales
Nathan Allen
>Mortal Kombat >iconic it's only iconic for it's blood and violence
Grayson Long
>Mortal Kombat is iconic
To Americans.
Christopher Bell
is there any way to play ninja gaiden black if i do not own an xbox of any kind
Leo Myers
Smash really lost its steam huh, everything has been a step down since the reveal of Banjoke
Samuel Stewart
I'm not seeing it Banjo seems like he'd make more sense as a Base game character and not DLC, he lacks that same amount of impact the others have
Dylan Hernandez
Japan is 22% of this games sales
Michael Martinez
>they're all sword users Corrin is a transformation fighter who happens to carry a sword, and has a lance move as one of his specials(and his smashes are also lance moves).
Jaxon Powell
>Bruh Sakurai was sad that he wasn't able to put in Rex In the base game. And no, spirits have never been stated to deconfirm shit, hence only retards like you parroting the fanrule like the human bot you are.
Benjamin Smith
The closest you can get is Sigma on PS3, or Sigma+ on Vita. Black is better, but those are the closest. If you like Onimusha, play the DS Ninja Gaiden, too. It's an Onimusha clone pretty much.
Christopher Allen
2 JRPG fags 1 FPS no body that panders to Era/tumblr
I'm I supposed to be happy I paid for this?
Jose Mitchell
You already have sonic in the annoying shit spot
Alexander Barnes
>he lacks that same amount of impact the others have Apparently not, given the reactions.
William Wood
China is 30+% of gacha shit revenues. More reason to add Lu Bu to the roster, I'm smelling money here!
Aaron Morris
Only a retard buys a season pass without knowing what's in it.
Chase Bennett
>meanwhile the likes of Hector and Ephraim get ignored even though they're top10 popularity Neither of them is actually the main Lord of their game, and Hector can't even claim to be the most popular one from his own game with Lyn existing.
Jose Harris
>Shiek with a sword
Jason Clark
He's PP's final smash
Ayden Cruz
Everybody knows what's in it, the fucking budget of making Mii costumes and the DLC characters
You're ignoring the impact and importance of Ninja Gaiden
Cameron Reyes
you really think the reception for Ryu will be anywhere close to Banjo's
Ian Myers
He's from a franchise that's directly owned by Nintendo.
As much as I'd like Doomslayer, the chances of them negotiating for a character who's terribly obscure in their home country are minuscule at this point in time, especially since support for Doomslayer only started making waves relatively recently. It looks like we're going to have to wait a while.
Levi Torres
Based Worst thing is that some people thinks that there are not enough fe shitters
Kevin James
So is DOOM and you don't see them getting blasted for that.
Robert Gray
How many people do you guys think are either going to call him a generic ninja, or get pissy about his katana?
>Spirits are a way to represent characters that won't be fighters Geno isn't getting in and Xenoblade chronicles was better The rest of your picks was pretty based though
Aiden Bell
>Banjo and hero logic
Brody Price
I don't care about being annoying. I just want my waifu in.
Jonathan Cooper
??? Even not touching the original timeline, Razor's Edge came out for WiiU first
Ryder Martin
pathetic
Brayden Baker
Nearly every smash nigger on twitter or in the reactions
Ryder Sanchez
This is obviously fake news, who cares if he's credible, it doesn't mean he can't be wrong either.
I still believe a Harvest Moon/Rune Factory or a Tekken rep will be in Smash
Jackson Perry
he is a generic ninja though
Justin Lopez
That second list is complete fucking trash, the only saving grace is master chief
Tyler Watson
banjo actually has fans though
Austin Carter
But Ryu is literally a generic ninja. I don't really see how you can say he isn't. Also considering how Nintendo has handled other characters, if you think he won't end up a generic sword user with some ninpo gimmick you are fooling yourself. Just look at Joker, instead of making a cool magic/persona based fighter, they changed him to a fast sword user with a persona gimick.
Do you really think they would put the effort to give him multiple moves for all the weapons he can use? Chances are it will be swords+shurikens+ninpo. I'd be glad if they made him a weapon master, but it's not going to happen.
Jaxson Cruz
ya know, i wouldnt be against Keen, be either the original or this one.
Aaron Butler
>Harvest moon Another retread of Animal Crossing Ninja Gaiden has a ton of fans, from DoA to the original Trilogy, to the DS games, to the Cross platform games etc etc, he's been everywhere
Thomas Young
If Ryu is in then Doom Slayer is guaranteed in.
Lucas Foster
I hope it's shy guy so you fucking faggots shut up about your garbage 2 button party game
Gavin Hill
>magic/persona based fighter He'd be stepping on Hero's gimmick.
Wyatt Rivera
I kean the P3 and P4 protags got mii costumes, but yeah, pretty disappointing it really was just smash x p5
Thomas King
cope
Landon Brooks
Only amerisharts want a shitty ninja for their babby game
Dylan Taylor
The shifty piranha plant leak is pretty damning. He came with a lot of details before that final direct. I'm convinced we're getting ryu next
Jace Lopez
Yeah but people are going to hate him because of that and it'll turn into another Hero situation which means people are going to have to spam Hoes Mad again
Easton Morgan
>generic ninja
He is, but he's basically to gaming ninjas what Erdrick is to JRPG heroes.
Asher Barnes
Chads stick together
Robert James
Not really. Persona's would work nothing like Hero. Hero isn't even the only magic based character in the game right now. Robin is basically Hero, but worse.
Nathan Rogers
>another boomer NES rep No one remembers those artificial difficulty games on NES so why add him?
Liam Roberts
In retrospect it's kinda funny that people thought that interview with the DOA6 producer deconfirmed Ryu. There's no reason why Sakurai would go to him to negotiate Ryu, that's something that would happen with the higher ups at Tecmo. Ryu isn't even from DOA.
You say this like the Ninja Gaiden trilogy isn't the literal face of "NES hard" and Ninja Gaiden Black isn't one of the most notable pillars of modern action games
Luis Turner
The only one of those that is applicable to the ryu dilemma are the two roys, though even then the koopaling roy isn’t even the main character in that set, so simply saying Bowser Jr instead of roy every time is what most people do.
Aaron Smith
This so fucking much. JRPG shit is fine but I'll never not be pissed at the fact that we got a fucking Persona character before a SMT rep.
Robert Johnson
this seems like a pretty big deal why isn't it getting more attention
So you’ve never played a souls game? Besides, the very moveset posted doesn’t have a counter move. Don’t tell me you’re THAT much of a zoomer that you can’t read an image for longer than a few seconds.
Henry Sullivan
>anime sword >big farmer sword >fist swords He's the swordestman.
James Fisher
Since there's already a character named Ryu in the game, would they just call him Hayabusa?
Blake Sanders
I hope not. He'a such a boring choice. No one wants generic ninja man.
Juan Martinez
You seriously can’t say that about swordsman yet not talk shit about boring ass punchy kicky brawlers. 99% of the swordsmen in smash are from RPGs where the entirety of their sword-using moveset is “press this one menu selection to slash your sword once.”
Having the chosen undead from dark souls would be vastly unique compared to every swordsman in the game, because he actually has unique sword attacks and animations to pull from.
>muh wide array of weapons!!! Nigga you know good and god damned well sakurai is only going to give him a basic ass katana that he will swing around the same way every other swordsman does. Every time a character gets in that could have used a wide array of weapons, sakurai just makes them use one single thing. Joker only using Arsene is the latest example of this.
Ryder Cruz
Do you have links to the other pages? I cant seem to get onto them/find out how to
Gavin Stewart
>generic le epic ninja gets in over Waddle Dee Fuck Soccer Guy
>generic ninja gets in over generic goomba That seems like a pretty equal trade off. One worthless character vs another means we’re getting a boring, worthless character no matter what.
This would be rather funny. Now the fucking Europe branch's Spanish division fucks up and leaks which company is getting the DLC slot. SNK can be many people though, but ShamSho has a big chance. The fatal blow stuff might not make it in though. i can't imagine Nintendo being ok with Mario getting cut in half. The impale from Ridley was kind of pushing it as is.
I kind of agree. If they wanted to add Hayabusa they should have had him in before DLC. That's the time to get the classics in. Not exactly a huge deal when we already got Megaman and Simon. People flipped their shit with Banjo because they finally fucking moved past the 80's to draw a classic character from. I definitely don't mind Hayabusa whatsoever, I just question it as a DLC decision.
Cameron Torres
>Porky >Geno never ever
Aaron Ward
Sakurai does, he mentioned John Carmack by name.
Thomas Anderson
He's not just a generic enemy, retards. He's much more deserving over a generic ninja who has made no impact on gaming as a whole
Placeholder dates, they always do shit like this. Look at the store page on the E-shop. All of the unreleased shit has the same date as when the fighter's pass first went up.
POWER WAVE
I'm more then ok with this. SNK has a big line up though, it could be ANYONE. But let's think about this. Which leaks has an SNK character?
Nolan Clark
You say this every time. Go away.
Grayson Reyes
If he's in, then I hope they add all the Ninja Gaiden games to Switch. I wanna play Ninja Gaiden again, but I don't want to root for my Xbox.
Dylan Richardson
I don't think he's happening this game, but I feel like the demand that sparked this time around will positively impact his chances next time.
Why would some generic punchy kicky ryu knockoff get in over a metal slug rep?
Luis Lee
>seething ryutard
Samuel Diaz
Aaaaaaaaand that's where your argument falls apart. Your generic enemy didn't do shit either, so he deserve a spot?
Jackson Martin
Tell me one time, just ONE time that a smash leak was accurate Nintendo is airtight, the sooner you morons realize that characters never get revealed before it's official, sooner we can stop having to see these horrendous "he's in" threads
If it's not fucking Ryu Hayabusa, I'm going to be SO disappointed.
Jack Robinson
Smash 4's roster was leaked here A guy leaked piranha plant half a month before the direct Simon got leaked thanks to a dumb intern Virginben called Incineroar, Erdrick, etc. And now we have an SNK rep Just because there are a lot of retarded fake ones to wade through doesn't mean there aren't real ones too. Ninty security is not as airtight as you think it is
Ryu isn't SNK, he's Tecmo. He could still happen for DLC 5, but let's shelf that for now, since we have actual evidence. Also, I hope people are screenshotting this. The second it gets exposure, Europe is taking these pages down.
Jaxon White
It IS all guessing. Every retard with an internet connection can say a random character's name and once they're revealed the retard will get treated like a prophet like the moron from article in the OP
Cooper Thomas
Terry makes sense because he'll take up two character voice slots because his female version will be an alt.
>capcom has the most potential for unique newcomers >says he hopes it’s the two most boring possible ones
Jaxson Gutierrez
Isn't that hawk girl everyone is going on about SNK? LEON PLEASE
Isaiah Reyes
Ryu didn’t get deconfirmed
Joshua Price
If we assume that's the case, then it means that DLC4 will be revealed in the next Direct and that it's coming SOON. So guys, there was that one that was saying the direct would come the 12th and Nakoruru would be the fighter.
Owen Perez
Ryu Hayabusa and Nakoruru are in.
Parker James
I wanted Doomguy
Gavin Moore
Shantae!
Robert Edwards
>HOLY SHIT HE’S IN XFAGS BTFO >NO HE’S ACTUALLY IN YFAGS BTFO >NO SHE’S ACTUALLY AND I WANT TO CUM INSIDE HER >OH NO NO NO NO NO >THIS LEAK I FOUND IS A 100% LEGIT EVEN THOUGH IT JUST STOLE IT FROM OTHER LEAKS >HEY GUYS CHECK OUT MY MOST WANTED LIST WHICH IS IDENTICAL TO Yea Forums‘S CIRCLE JERK AM I FITTING IN YET? >DUDE THE CHAIRS MEANS BCHADS WIN >DUDE THERE IS A PORT OF A GAME COMING TO THE SWITCH AND IT TOTALLY MEANS THE GAME ITSELF IS IN >STOP COMPLAINING SMASH IS VIDYA BUT DOESN’T DESERVE A GENERAL >STOP COMPLAINING, ETIKA KILLING HIMSELD WAS ACTUALLY SUPER IMPORTANT NEWS >STOP COMPLAINING, STICKIES ARE CONTAINMENT THREADS DESPITE SAID STICKIES NOT CONTAINING SHIT AND STICKIES NEVER HAVING BEEN USED AS SUCH KILL YOURSELVES SMASHFAGS KILL YOURSELVES MODS CLEAN THIS FUCKING BOARD UP YOU FUCKING PIECES OF FUCKING SHIT YOU FAGGOTS DON’T NEED 20 THREADS HOURLY DOING THE SAME FUCKING “HE’S IN!!!!!!!!!” BULLSHIT BECAUSE SOME STUPID UNVALIDATED LEAK SAID SO YOU PEOPLE DON’T EVEN TALK ABOUT SMASH OR THE GAMES. YOU JUST WANT TO POST YOUR TEAM’S MASCOT AND TELL THE OTHER TEAMS TO SEETH. I GENUINELY HOPE SAKURAI IS FUCKING KILLED BY A CEREAL (not a typo) RAPIST SOON ENOUGH SO YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS WILL KILL YOURSELVES TOO.
Jaxson Davis
Who would you prefer then? lol
Cameron Wilson
There's no evidence that he's even in.
Wyatt Morales
Tecmo has an assist
Dominic Cox
?????
Daniel Young
Congratulations, you figured out the code! Samurai does what he wants and when he wants. You pattern and evidence retards keep making up stupid imaginary rules in your head (That have been broken every single time). So why the fuck do you idiots continue to think you can confirm or reconfirm shit without video evidence
I sort of have to agree with this guy. Much as I'd like good ole Hayabusa to get into the game, I can't really think of great tunes outside of 4-2 in the original NES Gaiden.
Camden Price
RE rep would be cool if they used a Tyrant
Thomas Harris
That has nothing do to with Ryu being in.
Nolan Flores
Mai got shipped out to DoA along with co-star Kula, so unfortunately they're not it. Geese is having a blast being a high/top tier terror in Tekken and Haohmaru is prepping for a trip to SC6, so it really leaves either Nakoruru or some other SNK rep to take the spot. I'd suspect that they might end up surprising people and using a female Metal Slug rep if the "mecha" rumors end up being true.
William Nguyen
not the same user but, none of the tabs for "DLC" and "Smash Ultimate" wont work, no redirection, but can anyone explain why to me? i can only highlight them whereas other tabs on fighters pass packs work. Did some random guy mess with the source for tacos niggers and eurofags site?
Wyatt Ortiz
>Joker is himself, the phantom thief, and not a vehicle to attach SMT demons to
>It's not him, it's an SNK rep. now, so we fill the board with their series I agree with you
Robert Morales
Why is the newest showdown so tame compared to games of the past?
Gabriel Anderson
need to save this in case of these nakorurufags get btfo
Xavier Clark
Nope, it's going to be Fio. The "hammer" flying weapon that one guy was saying, is actually a German Grenade. On top of her having a Ponytail, another attribute that was being thrown around in leak circles a lot.
David Nelson
It's a cold and it's a broken Hayabusa
Charles Collins
I never bought a Switch; did SANSposters get bored or did that meme get definitively rejected by Nintendo?
Dominic Jones
>metal slug Nobody cares
Ayden Sullivan
Sans has been accepted as something hilarious that will never happen and doesn’t get much reaction anymore.
Andrew Edwards
Still need a TREASURE rep and a Smash Bros. original rep.
Fio isn't the main character of metal slug, she may be an alt, but Marco will absolutely be in first. That twitteral who was more than likely talking about of his ass. Either way he could have easily have only seen marco being played with the fio alt by chance.