Why is the only good metroidvania since SotN essentially a remake?

Why is the only good metroidvania since SotN essentially a remake?

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I didn't know Hollow Knight was a remake

HW is boring and uninspired

Bloodstained is not even in top 5 of metroidvanias of the last decade. Especially thanks to the HORRENDOUS second half.

there have been a shitload of good metroidvanias after SotN. Aria, Dawn, PoR, OoE, Environmental Station Alpha, Axiom Verge, Hollow Knight, both Metroid 2 remakes. some of those are better than the others, but all of them are at least decent. and yes Bloodstained was great too

But Bloodstained isn't good.

Tfw already played Bloodstained, Hollow Knight, Salt and Sanctuary and Deadcells.

Are Momodora and Minoria at least okayish metroidvanias? I am bored. What else is there to play?

It's cool if you found it boring, but how is it uninspired? It clearly has a lot of heart and effort put into it. Unless you mean that it's not inventive, which in that case, what Metroidvanias other than Super Metroid are actually inventive?

Touhou Luna Nights is bretty good

I mean imo the locations are uninspired, half of them are rock areas with different colors, there are 2 garden areas the only good area is the purple cave...

Bloodstained is a meh game honestly.
The shards are too much dead weight. Having to make one ability for every one of them gives you some really generic ones like "throw X enemy" or "raise X stat.
Weapon crafting really takes out part of the fun of exploring and puts grinding in the place of it.
The castle is too big for it's own good, after some time it starts getting a repetitive going trough the hallways.
The martial arts are really boring. There are few fun interactions with it.
It was a long game for me but I'd like it more if it focused on the quality of the castle and souls instead of being BIG NUMBERS.

I wish you could get the upside down ability before in the game, it´s so much fun to use in bosses and stuff. But it is a great game, I hope it makes money and the sequel can be made.

A remake of Aria I hope you mean

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Why isn't Pirate's Curse a metroidvania?

I think bloodstained was fun. They really should iron out those bugs and crashes though

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On a lighter tone i enjoyed Monster boy and the cursed kingdom if you looking for another metroidvania.

What is
>City of Tears
>Crystal Peak
>White Palace
>Fungal Wastes
>Fog Canyon
>Kingdom's Edge
>The Hive

>la-mulana 2
>below both versions of LM1

Stop putting Timespinner in the good tier. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Because it has isolated levels

Is it still buggy ? I plan on buying it

Good art, good music, fun bosses. Dragged down by the writing, but you can just mash through dialogue.

>They really should iron out those bugs and crashes though
What's taking them so long with that?

Trying to unabort the Switch port.

>essentially a remake
It's not tough. It's a sequel of previous IGA 2D games.

Momodora is really good. Assuming you mean the latest one.
I beat it with the best ending in 3 hours and I took my time, but it was still a good game.

Do I have to play from the first one or each is different?

Bloodstained? more like SHITSTAINED.

Blasphemous is the real deal, baby.

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There's no reason to play from the beginning. The first two are freeware so go ahead if you like, but the first one of note is RutM. Minoria should only really be played if you liked that and want more.

I disagree that Bloodstained was an sotn remake. One of the things I really liked about it was that the movement powers felt really unique and mechanically it picked up where the DS games left off.

They all stand alone. The first two games are essentially cave story fangames and are free. The fourth one is the one on Steam for like $20.
The fourth is the latest.
Dunno about 3.

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WayForward was brought onboard to fix the mess DICO made. The problem is, considering DICO is a mobile developer without prior experience, the mess is probably way bigger than expected. Reading through other people's code already is shitty enough, but when it is objectively bad, unorganized and undocumented, your life turns into hell.

The Guacamelee games are pretty good though the meme humor and some tough precision platforming can be annoying

I agree, it should be in Great tier.

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Blasphemous stomps on the competition

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This list should be updated. Also, thefollowing games must be added
>Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
>Metroid: Samus Returns

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Why are there 2 La Mulana 1?

fuck off, shill

The GBA vanias are even better than SoTN.

Environmental Station Alpha
Strider
Valdis Story
Umbrella Adventure
Treasure Adventure Game and its remake Treasure Adventure World
Hell Yeah! and Ori and the Blind Forest, kinda

It's not out yet

you fuck off.

OP is whining about his lack of knowledge of quality metroidvanias and here i am trying to inform you knuckle dragging sodomite niggers about a really good one.

not out yet for you commoners...

but I'm playing a review version and i can promise you that you won't be disappointed.

There were a coupole good ones on GBA too.

Underrated comment. There’s less than 5% of shards that are worth a damn.

How about some webms then, faggot? All you posted comes from their twitter.

PLayed the demo and already was disapoointed. It's just a 2D souls ripoff.

Perhaps the same could be said of all IGAvanias.

Is the switch version still broken?

I knew Yea Forums didn't play video games, but this is a whole new level of ignorance. I am impressed.

How is he wrong?

enjoy your newgrounds flash kusoge, I guess.

It probably will never be not fucked.
The whole console is simply a joke from a technical standpoint and even has problems with sprite rotation and scaling in Blazing Chrome, a 2D pixel art game.

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>HW is uninspired
>Bloodstained, now THAT's an inspired game

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BLASPHEMOUS SOON NIGGER
SINS OUT FOR MEA CULPA

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>enjoy your newgrounds flash kusoge
Nice shitpost. I see the quality of posters in metroidvania threads is non existent. Apes who will just say shit they know are wrong so long as they get to toss shit.

>problems with sprite rotation and scaling in Blazing Chrome, a 2D pixel art game.
That's literally because they're retarded

at this point it just needs to be re-ported by a competent developer.

i 100% agree. Aria is the best non classic Castlevania

While Blasphemous looks cool, it also looks like it's going to be less of a true Igavania (i.e. lots of RPG mechanics, items and equipment to collect, etc) and something closer to Hollow Knight where you get some set upgrades throughout the game but most of it's based around gameplay skill.

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Sequel should be in old 2d.
Fuck 3d customization and 3d assets. It wasn't worth it.

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valdis story is so good, wish more people played it