Let this be a lesson to any feminist or extreme leftist lurking here

dilate faggot

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>If you are accused of rape, people will think you are a rapist
Whoa, glad to see ignorance is limited to only one political spectrum. Not like one party of criminals hide behind religion to fool dumb rednecks.

based families

Have sex, incel

If only there was a place where homosexuals could live together as a society.

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I'm glad the finance world gets almost no exposure in media and that most of the people don't have social media. There has been a HUGE turnaway from hiring women just because we can't risk these allegations. So instead of making the field more equal for women in business and finance, men are just straight up turning down casual lunches and coffee meets which in turn is diminishing the connections women have in the industry

If only this was true

What lesson? They're still victims until proven otherwise, plenty of people kill themselves when they can't handle the pressure or the truth, this is nothing new and it shouldn't change anything to the case.
However, I fear that this is going to drown the initial testimony in incel shit drama, and paint the first victims as responsible for what happened, which is really not ideal.

What a coincidence that jannie applications are suddenly being accepted now

here's another one, anything at anytime can be recorded/filmed so being relaxed and casual in your conversation isn't enough even if you think you're alone with your co-wokers, it's stepping on permanent eggshells from work to your home, because what you do in public in your free time is also subject to the same effect.

basically, your bedroom and your WC is the only places exempt

You don't have to call everyone a rapist to be concerned about health care, the environment, education, endless war, massive wealth disparity, the rise of authoritarian corporatist (fascist) governments, the militarization of the police, private prisons, too-big-to-fail financial institutions, etc etc.

If anything I've become more left-wing over time as the problems continue to get worse, despite how much propagandists want people to believe that the left is defined by pink-haired harpies on Twitter.

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>trying to be reasonable?
>stupid idiot, taste the power of this MSPAINT COMIC!
dumb phoneposter

that's funny, i've become more rightwing because all those things keep happening and getting worse and my country has been a socialist shithole for a hundred years.

What country?

>Foucaultite woketard liberal
>extreme leftist
That word doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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> mongoloid
Are you racist?
Also based familys.

>If anything I've become more left-wing over time as the problems continue to get worse
I agree too. I used to be more libertarian but as I've gotten older and as this past presidency has been going on I think Americans do deserve universal healthcare. I think our gun laws are a bit fucking retarded and they should be modernized so people that are sane can have guns while people that have had 100 police visits can't.

Automation is coming for our jobs too and the rich are only getting richer. It's about time we even the odds.

My family comes from Cuba and as I've gotten older I see the differences. There's cohesion in Cuba. People work together, they care about their communities. People are given healthcare and schooling and pushed to continue their education even if they're farmers so they can serve their country. There's a mission.

America has been built on individualism and it's come to hurt us. Our republic is a mess. Americans only serve themselves, they don't see the importance of a strong country or a united people. They only see themselves and their family. That's why America is falling apart.

Look at it all; the fighting, the anti-intellectualism, the self-serving. Is it all worth it?

If your family and friends would turn against you because of one accusation, they're not a very good family and not real friends.

lol of course they think that, it's not rocket science

gay people think the same about straight couples as well

based parents

Class struggle and feminism are more important to me than my personal reputation. I think it's a cause that's bigger than I am. I'm not just gonna abandon my union membership or my membership in a socialist party because someday someone might accuse me of sexual abuse.

There's no any mention about right wing, but you already fucked this up.
Rent free, obsessed faggot.

Maybe you should fix your own country first before ruining ours spic

>My family comes from Cuba
lol

t. so obsessed he makes threads about a suicide to push your agenda

If you're an asshole, asexual predator, you just deserve to die. That's all it is.
Someone committing suicide doesn't mean that they're innocent.

If anything, it's some guilty piece of shit who can't handle the world knowing what happened.

>They're still victims until proven otherwise
Imagine being this retarded

All families are the same. As long as you benefit them in some way you are their equal but if you do something like become a neet then they will treat you like a cockroach. Just read metamorphosis by kafka to see how fast your family will abandon you when shit hits the fan.

I'm not OP so fuck off, degenerate.

People criticize Cuba (sometimes legitimately) but if you consider its history and how the US has been shitting on it for the greater part of the last century, it's amazing that it's still standing.
>Maybe you should fix your own country first
Have you ever considered that he's actually doing that, at least indirectly?

>A lesson
>In the current year, and era of social networks

Good try, but this shit will happen again in next months or years.

Why don't you go back to Cuba to sleep on dirt and eat rats?

i don't know much, but i'm the wisest poster on Yea Forums, so all of you faggots hear my breakdown now and be enlightened

here's the facts: zoe quinn
a guy killed himself
rape allegations???
sjws

in conclusion: fuck zoe quinn, rip this dude, also why the fuck does zoe quinn still matter did gamergate accomplish nothing

Don't worry, we'll press F for you when the time comes

rent free

If you eat maggots you have a zero percent chance of getting AIDs. If you fuck a dude that chance jumps by quite a bit. Keep that in mind before you judge.

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Most of Cuba’s problems have been caused directly by the United States. Oh, and his folks are almost certainly gusanos, and there’s nothing American imperialists love more than gusanos.

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>Involve yourself with retards
>Win retarded prizes

Oh my god, wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

So Rank the races for bros.
Black > White > Brown >>>> Asians

I'm Asian btw.

No, it's means literally means this. Lenin was a faggot lover and sodomite. Marx was a mentally ill jew.

what the fuck is an asexual predator
go back to twitter

Because I'm an American and it'd be hypocritical to run away to another country instead of doing what I can to fix this one.

Imagine making a low tier furry game before killing yourself. Makes me kek desu.

this literally doesnt happen with the right wing

the left eats their own again

>doesn't even know the name of smuggies
never gonna make it newfag brah

Shit families you mean.

My family is and always has been poor as shit, but they've supported my neet brother for his entire life. They wont abandon or kick him out even though he contributes nothing.
When my brother was arrested for driving while smoking weed, my family didn't abandon him either. They gained nothing from it but did what they could to help.
When I was hospitalised for a while, again my family did everything they could to help while they got nothing in return (I was crippled for months, I couldn't even use the toilet on my own).

You and this Kafka guy just had shitty families.

Post some examples.

What happened?

does Yea Forums have literally zero jannies?

>friends and family

what, now?

gofundme com/f/justice-for-alec

THE FIRE RISES

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I heard his sister turned on him in his obituary, can I see that?

>Doesn’t know the difference between historical and dialectical materialism and idealist liberalism and utopianism
>just muh culture war bullshit

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Cancel culture kills.

>Families all over the US are kicking their kids out and disowning them for being gay or atheist.
That's a fucking meme at this point. It something you brag about whether it happened or not. Once you look closer, it's usually more like "my parents wouldn't let me take HRT or let me hang out with the guy who was grooming me."

name literally one

Not them but unfortunately my family has little regard for me. In fact they hate it when I try to succeed in life, to the point where they eat my horrid tasting healthy garbage when I try to diet. Sometimes you get a bad family user, it isn't that rare.

when you kill yourself after being accused of rape can I keep your cool hammer and sickle flags?

>implying alec didn't fake his death to fuck over zoe and promote NITW

Oh, I'm sure that big daddy government safe our asses from this greedy corporations.
Viva le hordes of burrocrates and statism, viva le 60% taxation.

How did this scrawny little punk terrorize anybody? He's a walking Halloween decoration. Stuff him in a cupboard if he starts being a little bitch.

This
TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

Maybe they get future security from you. Like maybe they hope you will get jobs and be normal people and help them in their old age. If you were truly useless to them you would be treated like a cockroach, period.

Russia, i think.

okay but who's "Connor Myers"

Sure. But you don't get my original East German police uniform.

I knew it was only a matter of time before that stupid fucking cunt had blood on her hands. She is so protected that you can't say a single bad thing about her without having the fucking United Nations sanction you. Now the cookoos in the comic industry hire her just to virtue signal. And what does the cunt do? She drives someone to god damn suicide.

I have fucking had it with this bitch. I am not tone policing myself any more. She is a horrible person who should be shamed wherever she goes. She should never have a day of peace for the rest of her God damned life and she should thank her lucky stars if she can get a job cleaning toilets at Wal-Mart.

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quoted the wrong post, it was meant for

Extremism is bad, kay? It's the pitchfork mob that's the problem leading to this shit.

And the more you see the pitchfork mob doing their unreasonable things, be they either conservative or liberal, the more you see the silent majority shift subtly against them.

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You raped me. Now you I am a victim and you a rapist until proven otherwise. See how retarded that is?

>muh dialectics
Pseudoscience. The LTV and the concept of surplus labor have been destroyed by marginalism too.

innocent until proven guilty
wait no
>victims until proven otherwise
BUCKLE UP, NEW PARADIGM

> bunch of fantasy retarded buzzwords
Poor Hegel and Smith, this cultists spoiled and distorted your ancestry.

Your family and friends turning against you just because of one possibly fake rape allegation has nothing to do with your political leaning. It just means your family and friends were shit.

I come from a family of communists. And I can say, without any doubt, that all of them would believe me if I told them that I did not in fact rape anybody.

>he doesn't know that I already have a giant collection of German memorabilia from the 3rd Reich and DDR era.

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>this is being discuss because it involves a death of a game dev

I sure love video games

>accuse someone of "rape"
>no proof, vague recollections
>life ruined
>guy commits suicide
>whore gets off scot-free

Honk-honk!
Video games.

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Well are you going to stand by your allies? Are you going side with all the hysterical cat ladies to oppose "fascism" even if it causes people to lose their livelihood and lives?

I mean, its just the lesser of the two evils, right?

Im not sure on the athiest one, at least where I live no one really gives a flying fuck about fellow family members religions. The gay stuff ive seen happen though to old friends.

Rest in peace Alec Holowka.

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But user, he made a game once. It wasn't a game that anyone on Yea Forums cared about, but still!

Yea Forums just continues to get worse.

He unironically looks like aizen

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Don't project so much. I genuinely hate the family unit as a concept. And even I understand that some people genuinely do look out for each other.

Like, my own dad has actually argued in favour of me doing fuck all and just sitting home and collecting unemployment checks all day. With me being the one that doesn't want a neet lifestyle.

Proofs?

How are people not more mad at this?

Alec holowka was kind of a faggot. but he was still talented. and he really wanted to make things and believed in his projects. If it was just some corporate cunt who's only out for the money id understand not giving a shit but this was just a young man who believed in this medium and felt like he wanted to tell a story

plus this is fucking ZOE QUINN that started this. if ANYONE here believes anything this turgid shit gurgling whore has to say you are painfully misguided and naive. shes not a survivor. shes a cunt.

you guys are memeing about this shit like haha clown world but this shit ain't right. not even in just a moral sense but in a 4chans identity sense. you people should despise zoe quinn for more than a few reasons

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user - not who you're replying to by the way - it's okay for me to both say "rape is wrong" and "zoe quinn is a pathetic whore"
it's okay for me to say "climate change is real" and "the democratic party is led by lizard people"

these are not incongruent thoughts, user
it's not a "lesser of two evils" thing, you fucking mongoloid

Its ok most people believe other people are looking out for them. then shit hits the fan and you become night in the woods developer.

>Too stupid to understand complex words.
Typical.

Dialectics are the obvious truth
>LTV
youtu.be/emnYMfjYh1Q
Also, bourgeois classical economics are basically just superstition
youtu.be/SKGYzhoYK2I
youtu.be/Ked8raTDr_M

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>I genuinely hate the family unit as a concept.

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>tfw Alec personally helped the Love in the Woods team get started on their fan game
>even did most of the coding
>they ignored everything he said and spammed memes until he left
Alec had a hard life.

Again, in my case, shit has hit the fan so many times that the thing can't even turn anymore. Yet, my dad still supported me every step of the day. If you want to claim that he's going to abandon me the moment things get bad. Then you really need to define what "bad" means in this context.

The fact that he killed himself meant that he knew the accusation was legit. It was done out of guilt and an attempt to escape justice.

Rest in shit, faggot.

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This. You are a cuck for not know this shit dumbass

Shit dude, you're Asian.

You know what boils my balls about this whole thing? In his sister's note she mentions how he's finally getting over his issues and is beginning to make sense of his life and work towards being a better person. Then fucking Burger and Fries turns up and causes all this shit, talks about embarrassing things totally openly, all his family and friends bail on him and he loses all involvement with a company he did 90% of the work for, and then those same people are so shocked he offs himself.

You honestly don't even have one person you think you can trust? You either have a shit family or some issues to work out with during therapy. I have shitty family too, but I know if someone tried some shit like that on me, at the very least my brother and mom would defend me and give me the benefit of the doubt.

Lol you parents should of aborted you retard

t.naive children
frick off.

The world would be a better place if people saw all humans as their family rather than just a few people they only know because of luck.

Yes, One male feminist less

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Not a argument. Either actually point out what bad means in this context, or you fuck off.

happened to me, sister must have been under the impression I'd become filthy rich (I study a lot in general) and she was pretending to care about me for years
then when I NEET'd up too long, she started treating me like absolute shit, then in the end she accused me of breaking her home gym equipment or something (I hadn't been in her room for about A YEAR at that point...)
that's when I decided I would never talk to her again
over a year later she texts me when she heard I was gonna move to asia for several months... I guess that meant I was productive and useful to her again? I never replied of course, she can fuck off and die desu

So then Zoe and the other people who were at the center of this deleting their twitter accounts and withdrawing from social media is an admission that they knew they were peddling falsehoods and caused him to commit suicide, right?

>I know I can't really properly love the 2 people who were given to me by chance as my parents, and I'm having a hard time loving the few brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts, and uncles I do have properly, but I'm just gonna go ahead and love EVERY FUCKING PERSON ON EARTH, WITH ALL MY HEART, AND CARE FOR THEM TRULY.
let me know how that works out.

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That's some shit assumptions there buddy.

Yup its not that its totally a fake accusation and he realized he has no chance in hell in the future

Hey what happened to lefty/pol/ after infinitychan went down?

>copperhead
>trapdoor spider
>crocodile
>male feminist
...
>female victim

le both sides gentlesir
*tip*

That's Scott Benson, the bipolar SJW artist who turned his back on Alec.

desu i find it hard to feel bad for him because i am 100% sure he would be a part of the lynching mob if she accused anyone else

America is sexsist and racist contry. Good job.

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>not even in just a moral sense but in a 4chans identity sense
Even back when GG happened, she and a bunch of other goons were on here being a defense force for her. Paid or not, they boasted about it.

There and there queer

what fucking gets me is that a guy literally died and these fagoot "journalists" still won't change their tune, they're not even calling it a suicide when they report on it and they're trying to not report on it if they can get away with it, these people are fucking insane, now pcgamer has also closed the comments, this is genuinely 10 times worse than gamergate since a person fucking died

I typed in thereandtherequeer.com and I didn't get any results?

If people actually tried it, it would work out wonderfully. But alas, the family meme is simply too strong at the moment.

If you don't value the truth you will die in the court of public opinion.

>be an incel game dev
>finally get lucky with fat feminist
>think this is how you get pussy
>years later get accused of rape
>kill yourself because you are an incel with no self respect
Epic

You're paying more dollars in taxes than someone who makes more than you will in your entire life over the course of 3 hours.
Oligarchies are really good at propaganda.

Poofs

I'm glad my family are 3rd worlders and wouldn't disown me unless I said I was gay or marrying a nigger

please, for your own sake, think about yourself and your own money

upvoted

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I don't understand why he killed himself before killing at least Zoe. He had literally nothing left to lose so why not try to punish the people responsible for ruining your life?

I'm not disgusted by seeing maggots.

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Of the kids weren’t worthless degenerates it wouldn’t be happening.

That's the only reason why they are still standing. You need to trick people into doing things that go against their own material interests.

Both of you are retarded, the redpilled thing is to love any of those who are worthy of your love, not random strangers, or 2 people who just fucked one night and have a baby.

didn't Scott Benson also try to get a transwoman to kill herself because she didn't like his game?

I bet they want to fuck maggots

this "blood is thicker than water" meme needs to end, your family could be as shitty as anyone else. Getting stuck with people that only puts you down just because muh family is the worst.

This. When shit blows my direction I am always surprised and proud of the people that got my back.

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thank you for the gold kind stranger

Heil digra

Everybody is worthy of love as long as they in turn try to do the same to you. That's why the idea of a family based upon pure biology is nonsense.

they're deleting evidence to avoid being involved in wrongful death suits, the real question is whether the family want to pursue wrongful death suits

>family uni
Wtf is this family unit meme?
I bet americans are behind this somehow.

these people are fucking psychopaths, especially the game journalists, they fucking killed a dude through gross negligence and now they're all closing the comments because they're so vile they'd rather damage control than confront the results of their retarded behavior

>nu Yea Forums would rather bait
imagine this not angering you, Yea Forums is fucking lost

Reminds me of James Gunn. Dude got some loyal friends.

>bedroom
Unless you are (((married)))

I clearly understand, that extremely rich people exist. And i also understand, that socialism doesn't provide any solution, they just created another class of extremely rich people, but without any rotation and competition.

He was mentally weak, which is why he was targeted in the first place. Even his own damn sister took Quinn side.
Damn, he was a faggot but this speaks volume of how truly alone he were in his last moment. Just try to picture this, he literally had the whole fucking world against him because of one. lying. bitch. tweet.

It’s called a gas chamber

Based Canadian janitor!

>It's about time we even the odds.
Said the losing team.
Missme with that gay shit

Has Literally Who responded?

I'm worked and lifed in 6 differents country's, including Poland, France, Sweden, America and Russia. So believe me, i know shit outside of macdac.

Do something about it then. Oh wait you won't because you're a bitch lol. I massively benefit from this system so I have no reason to change it. You don't though so the only reason you haven't is because you're weak. You gonna go kick over some trash cans at the Boston rally? Maybe hit a poor person in the head with a bike lock while the rich watch and laugh?

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't love everyone, I'm saying it's fucking retarded to say you can properly love the whole world when you can't even love your immediate family with your whole heart.

Maybe if he was a man of better character he could have convinced people they weren't true.

is it actually anecdotal if there are multiple people saying the same thing and the guy had a long history of mental instability

like it seems pretty obvious he actually was totally bipolar

they came here.

Trips of truth

You fucked my grandma’s corpse. You are a necrophiliac. My deceased grandmother is your victim until you can prove to me you didn’t do these things.

This. Leftism is a cult. And like a cult (say Jehovah's Witness), anyone who goes against the teachings will be immediately cut off from all sources of support.

Holy fucking based. Frap sipping "freedom fighters" BTFO

the fact that zoe quinn made the claims means that they weren't

Ok.
>NOOOOO WAIT STOP IT NOOOO I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES PLEASE DADDY GOVERNMENT PLEASE DON'T LET IT PASS I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES NOOOOOOO

"My son has been in college since last fall. Last November, my 16 year old stepdaughter brought up allegations that my son had abused her repeatedly for several years. I confronted my son and he categorically denied it. But I knew that even though he was my son, I could not defend him for such an awful act.

My wife and I reported him to the authorities. My son was arrested in December and held in prison for a several weeks because I refused to provide him bail money. He was eventually expelled from his Ivy League college.

In the middle of January, my stepdaughter broke down and admitted she lied about everything. She had actually been having sex with her boyfriend and was scared the news would reach us.

The charges were dismissed and my son was released immediately but the damage was done. His first girlfriend from college ended things with him. The news spread about the allegations and all his childhood friends have decided to just stay away from him even though I called each and every one of them personally.

I have called the school and explained the situation and even though they sympathized, they said he needed to reapply for the next school year and go through the admissions process again.

My son is understandably furious at us. He has moved back home and refuses to talk to me at all. Both my wife and I have apologized to him repeatedly. We have banned my stepdaughter from our home permanently and she has been sent to live with her father in another state. My wife and I also agreed to completely disinherit her from our wills. It has been a very painful situation. All of us started therapy.

The realization of how badly I ruined my son’s life hit me when I picked up his first prescription of anti-depressants today. I bawled my eyes out in my car."

Nice incel fantasy you have there. Call me when you do something besides shitpost. Until then continue to seethe under the thumb of a system you hate.

in his situation he shouldn't have to convince people that he didn't diddle someone. it's the person who claimed to get diddled that should have given proof of it happening.

Source?

Fucking white families man. Leftism has completely and totally fucked western white families.

t. asian who's not completely heartless

You don't have the right retarded shit like that when corporate fags literally bawl and lobby just so they can live life on ez mode lmao.

>literally bawl
Sounds like you. You should channel this anger into something productive but your cowardice prevents it.

Based. Poor unskilled fags BTFO.

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>SEETHING
You guys are just mad that her killcount is higher than yours and she'll be remembered as a hero for it.

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Reddit. It's not related to the OP's post of course, i just wanted to post it since it's a decent story. Unrelated to it being posted on Reddit, but there's a 70% chance it's made up.

>asian who's not completely heartless
You should go back to asia and teach the people there lessons in humanity. Seriously they watch people get gutted and bleed out in the streets and keep walking like it ain't no thing.

As an indie dev, I will never hire or associate my company with women

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This is the result of christianity and capitalism. Actual leftism has nothing to do with it.

>deserve universal healthcare

You want to watch your parents die waiting for tests that finally happened way too late? Because my country has UHC and that’s what my damned near 50% income tax rate payed for. If my dad didn’t have his cancer discovered a year late he would be alive right now. If my mom didn’t get sent home early without any tests at all she would be too.

Universal health care is a scam. It will never work because garbage people abuse it and it becomes unsustainable.

im actually fucking a short tomboy gf and living life how i want it

so please, for my entertainment, keep on sucking government dick and beg for safety, lmao

This. You soft babies talk about culture war this and day of the rope that but it's all bluster in the end.

yeah yeah cool epic bait well done i just can't understand why this shit would make you seethe unless you a nihilist cuck that's ok with the state of the industry

You can shitpost at me all you like but at the end of the day you're still trapped in a system you despise unable to affect meaningful change. If it makes you feel better, continue to do so but you won't be any closer to your goal than when you started.

>Why won't Americans support each other more?
>You know, like the residents of this tiny ethnically homogeneous country that gets all its military protection/foreign aid from America?

>asexual predator

You need to go back.

I remember when I first read this. My heart hurts for this kid. I know this stuff happens, but when you hear about it and realize what it actually does to a kids life, it fucking hurts. I pray for this kid. He will probably never live a normal life, have a family, have a steady job. This girl ruined him. It makes me incredibly sad.

she won't be remembered at all
i bet you don't even know who lionel barrymore was

except im not going out to the streets to do gay shit, again, i just find it funny how much of a baby you are that you need big daddy government to help you out from le mean civillians

in other words, suck my fucking dick lmao

>reeeeeeeeee

Fag

thank you america for giving aid to the country you're embargoing

>I'm not going to do anything
I know user. We all do.

The USA made Cubans become retarded socialists?

Are people really this fucking dumb when this just happened just a few days ago? Holy shit low IQ niggers and trannies that are easily manipulated online should just literally fucking kill themselves

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who are you quoting?

Imagine ACTUALLY believing this.

wouldn't*

read a history book

I know. It feels good to be a reasonably intelligent person.

You. I'm glad you're so contented and helpless, it means my family's wealth will never be taken away since all you can do is complain on the internet. You have no power, you can't affect any change, and everything will continue as it is. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for helping the 1% and the government stay in power with your laziness and fear.

Actually the lesson here is that there's still no consequences to false accusations because even if they drive a person to kill themselves bases on unsubstantiated claims there are still legions of people willing to defend them. The lesson is that the only solution is to burn it all down and let the world be cleansed in holy fire.

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>mfw I have no friends and family
Come at me roasties

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>I bawled my eyes out in my car.
piece of shit should PLUCK HIS OWN EYES OUT AND EAT THEM

Sounds like you're just lashing out and trying to find something to blame for your family's misfortunes.

I genuinely feel bad for the guy, his whole world got swept from under his feet from just a few tweets.

you should be forcefully deported

In parts of the west maybe
But there are also parts of the west where kids are being raised genderless and encouraged to be trans just like their two moms.

Doing something about it is called becoming a socialist. Which, more and more people are already doing.

i'm gonna tell you something, the only thing more pathetic than being a richfag or a poorfag is a richfag going on vee to brag about himself

welp, this board has been overrun by /pol/. delete this site desu

it's literally the equivalent of the witch hunts

Due to post size i couldn't post the best part of the story.

"He is the pride and joy of my life. He is outgoing, funny, intelligent and the kindest person I know. But when I handed him his medication, I could not even recognize him. He locks himself in his room, does not eat properly and has lost several pounds so far.

Whenever I try talking to him, I just see the hate he has for me in his eyes. I don’t know if I can ever get him to love me again."

BREAKING NEWS
SHITSKIN WANTS SOCIALISM
MORE AT 11

How does whining on the internet change things? You're still weak and powerless and you don't even have guns.

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If it's he said/she said character is all that matters to most people.

>Bragging
I'm not bragging, I'm thanking you. Thank you for being so powerless that I don't have to worry about a socialist revolution or wealth distribution of any kind in my lifetime.

*becoming your friend*
*charge you for the rape assaulte*

i'm not a socialist

>How does whining on the internet change things?
It doesn't, why do you think it would?

>You're still weak and powerless and you don't even have guns.
Assumptions. And even then, you can always just storm the armory once shit goes down.

But you bitch about the government and call it an oligarchy. You're missing the forest for the trees, my point is I'm happy you will never turn those words into action.

can you tell me when i said that

Cute assumption, kiddo. But you don't need to be ridiculously confident to detect bullshit.

>you can always just storm the armory once shit goes down.
Oh I see. That would be good for a laugh, though you might have a bit of trouble waddling up the stairs.

No honey he's just white. They always do that

>I don’t know if I can ever get him to love me again
that's like nazis hoping for israel to make a monument to hitler

Unless you're going to claim that's not you.

got a good kek user

the word you want is redistribution, paco.

Why would you even not back your fucking kid, holy shit.

it's not me

thanks for proving Yea Forums is being raided by right wingers

>S-Socialists are powerless!
>That's why i'm doing everything in my power to stop socialism.
Stop pretending. You people know perfectly well that the lack of class consciousness in america is the only thing standing between you and your misbegotten wealth being taken away.

No it isn't. It's a pseudoscience.
>cockshott
Literally who? This guy isn't even an economist. Virtually no modern economist takes the LTV seriously anymore for a good reason. Value is subjective.

Then why are you still calling yourself a leftists? Why not become a centrist?

Be wearing the colors that you are wearing you will be expected to support these people sooner or later. No matter how bad things might get you must support women, minorities, mass immigration and abortion. And if you don't you will be excommunicated and burned at the stake.

I don't wish you ill, I only want people to learn from what is happening. Even if Zoe is a shitty person her word will trump yours because she is seen as the better, more loyal democrat.

>Families all over the US are kicking their kids out and disowning them for being gay or atheist
>Being a mentally ill fag who will likely get aids and die early and deny the existence of god and natural law despite being raised on positive morals and values that uphold our whole civilization

GOOD

Ah thanks for correcting my minor typo.

Oh, so you don’t care about family turning on people.

Who would’ve guessed?

The right doesn't eat their own like the left does.

Not a argument.

>>That's why i'm doing everything in my power to stop socialism.
>Stop pretending. You people know perfectly well that the lack of class consciousness in america is the only thing standing between you and your misbegotten wealth being taken away.
Actually your own laziness, apathy and ineffectiveness is. We don't really have to do much at all. I would love for you to prove me wrong though but it'll always just be "someday someday someday" until your last day on earth.

>Why not become a centrist?
Because there is no center, the right wing killed it about a decade or two ago. Your average socialist leftist is a centrist.

Social media was a mistake. Giving people the ability to have a point-to-mass communication method was horrible. Should’ve just kept it to email and stayed a point-to-point system
Never should’ve moved on. Never should’ve left. Should’ve stayed.

>God
Why are Americans such mentally broken God botherers?

>Us being out of shape and having no military training isn't an argument for why our "revolution" would be ineffective
Okay you little freedom fighter you. You waddle up those stairs like a big boy.

The right might suck corporate cock. But they are far more supportive of each other as communities.
The left pretends to hate corporations, but their solution is to just give the government all the power, while their families and community crumble. Relying more and more on social programs to keep it all afloat.

>"I-I'm not afraid!"
>I-I'm only throwing insults to show how not afraid I am.
Just give it up now. That way, you'll only be dragged down. Rather than have your entire family guillotined.

they targeted gamers... GAMERS

I'm not even american, but whatever.

>Just give it up now. That way, you'll only be dragged down. Rather than have your entire family guillotined.
Hahahahaha. Is that before or after you kick over some more trash cans?

>But they are far more supportive of each other as communities.

The left says the same exact thing.

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Guys I'll give you a (You) just stop flaseflagging as resetera retards it makes it easier for the legit mentally ill to blend in.

Are you fucking serious user

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no problem, leftoid. enjoy being crushed by neoliberalism

good thing we can actually look at their behavior to see if they're telling the truth

Whatever.

The right eats their own all the time, you do whatever the leader say or you are out.

If the right wing is more supportive of each other as a community, that's only because the mega rich look after the mega rich. Your average right wing politician would happily sacrifice most of their voter base if they thought it would benefit them.

>asexual predator

Because the left has lower standards. And they also believe that social programs are community programs.

Like they care. Being a far leftists isn't a valid political ideology. Its a genetic disorder, that drives them towards disgusting and destructive behavior. We shouldn't be treated their opinions as mere politics, we should take them as seriously as the rambling of a schizo.

Being a biological traitor is inherent to them. So no surprise their family abandons them.

Zoe "when beta males try to elope, make sure they get the rope" Quinn

Enjoy being crushed without changing anything or harming me in any way. Did you forget you're part of the same system or something?

No, it's after we either democratically reform the system or overthrow it altogether.

Seems like you're only seeing the extreme peaks of your politial opposition instead of the reasonable majority. Study your opposition more instead of isolating yourself to an echo chamber.

Echo chambers is what makes people go extremist. For democracy to work, people need to be willing for open discourse and COMPROMISE.

Assuming this actually happened, the parents are shit, but the kids a little bitch. Oh boo hoo, life is hard and sometimes it ass fucks you for no reason and treats you with odium, but so what. Get up and stop being a weak bitch. There's always a way out of the pit, and if there isn't, make one.

He was tested and found wanting.

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Retard police coming through. Sorry we're going to have to put this thread under quarentine, it looks like everyone in it is severally retarded, and a danger to both themselves and others. Call the backup. As much as I hate to say it, we might need to nuke the entire place.. I know they won't let us, but I think it would be the best solution. Oh, here comes the backup.

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>No, it's after we either democratically reform the system or overthrow it altogether.
And when will that be? "Someday, someday..."

I don't know if you realize this, but about half of the US population is right leaning. They're not all rich fat-cats.

That comment is so non sense, like who the fuck do you think works in those programs? They’re people in the community.

That’s some Stalin ass shit.

The family deserves to suffer for what the step daughter did to their own son. I hope their regret eats them whole.

Give it a few years. Climate change is almost certainly going to cause the downfall of modern capitalism one way or the other.

Bernie will save us

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Oh, give a try, faggot. My guns and local milita always ready for some manhunt.

You've assigned me to a side, and you've assigned me an opposition. Very interesting, because I don't think I've made my position apparent.

More like 40% are right leaning these days, and the support is built off culture identity politics more or less.

Good idea, blame the person who's life was ruined by a false accusation and will most likely never shake it off. Assuming it's anything but a hypothetical situation.

The world ending doesn't count as you doing anything or winning fyi.

I'm always mad at this, but people are too retarded to realize this is just another grain on the pile of leftist fucktarded mob mentality we've been seeing for the past 4-5 years.

It's not that I'm immune to it, but I'm at the point I'd rather see the left self-immolate than try to help them.

About half of the US population doesn't even vote. Stop pretending that your ideology is anything other than a small minority.

Let me just say how fucking gay that game looks. Jesus Christ end yourself if you actually played it. Kill ALL furfags.
But yeah look what happened to Jared.

I'm a slav and its plain to see you assholes in the west have just gone completely fucking batshit insane. Enjoy your twenty fucking genders and you can shove your fucking hitler up your ass too while you're at it, no one I see online is normal anymore, it's either the SJW's or the /pol/tards.

I keep waiting for you to just meltdown and duke it out but remember, anyone coming here throught the Warta river will be cut down in a hail of machine gun fire, we dont need your rotten sort here.

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So...is Quinn under investigation now?

>Muh guns.
>Muh militia.
No match for a actual revolution. Which also has guns and militia, btw.

>who the fuck do you think works in those programs? They’re people in the community.
No they're not. Atthey're detached government workers.

If only

Faith in our lord and savior Jesus Christ restored.

Not him but fuck you, you're an imbecile.

Then you realize it never happened and was made up for the sole purpose of comforting some dude's hate of women.
Americans will eat up anything

>You suffer a misfortune
>Becomes a get out jail card for life

Do I blame him for the misfortune? Of course not, what a fucking retarded notion. Do I blame him for everything he did afterwards? Yep.

>Be the guy who got fucked over, but stood tall in the face of it all and exceeded
or we go with what you think
>Be the guy who got fucked, wallow in self pity for the rest of your life about it, and make the purpose of your existence all about remembering the bad thing that happened to you.

Conflict separates the wheat from the chaff

You told primarily positive things of one side and primarily negative of the other. I'd think it was a safe assumption. You're free to correct me on it of course.

>He was tested and found wanting.
How? He's in the process of "getting back up" by reapplying to school again. In the meantime, he's stuck with his pit viper parents desperately trying to get his forgiveness to assuage their own guilt. He has a right to be miserable.

Because people never get illnesses diagnosed too late under private for-profit healthcare systems?

Just look at who voted. Trump got 46.1% of the vote. Hilary got 48.2% of the vote.

Listen to yourself. Let us pretend that this story is 100% fiction. Is it really so impossible to believe that a woman (not ALL women) can lie and be evil?

The world isn't actually going to end, it's just going to become a lot worse.

Deeply hoping I meet you in real life so I can kill you.

Don't get me wrong, Trump sucks big time, but if Hilary won... it would've been so much fucking worse.

46.1% of 55% of the total population.

That's not what I said, I'm just saying you should be more careful with propaganda.

Not for us though, only for poor people.

ok, if we assume that I'm wrong, and that the right is the minority, well, they still made up 46.1% of the vote last election. Meaning that the minority right is more united than the majority left. You're only strengthening my argument that the right is tighter.

He forgot the part where they also actually become idiots from wearing the mask too long.

Kill ALL gays and trannies.

How is it propaganda? Again, you're dodging the question. Let us pretend this is a well-written short story. What is so implausible about a woman acting evilly and ruining the life of her step-brother? How is this "propaganda"?

Only if they delay going to a hospital. You get what you pay for: for-profit healthcare is prompt. Unlike public healthcare it doesn't have to be fucking rationed.

>cuckshit
not even an economist. fuck off leftypol

And the middle class as well. Both of which will then overthrow the 1% and end capitalism.

I said what was relevant to the user's point about communities. It just so happens that this point paints the right positively.

Makes a nice bedtime story.

>would
>nihilist
you mean wouldn't?

It is rationed; by how much money you have.

Not even remotely true. most of the right wing pundits I know of either don't support Trump at all, or agree with him in places and not in other places.
They'll invited you on tot their show if you disagree with them, whereas the left will try to cancel you out of existence. Which one of these is more healthy?

>That's not what I said
He doesn't care about what you said, only what you "said" to twist it in to his own mental orchestra.

user, scientists have made estimations with lower percentages. How is a 55% sample size not good enough?

With a little bit of luck, you may get your chance. Don't miss

>Your average socialist leftist is a liberal.

Fixed that for you. There are no true socialists left i the West, aside from maybe a couple nazbols. All self-described socialists are primarily liberal and will gladly work with corporations if it means more immigration or if they put more females as CEOs.

More people voted for Hillary, user. So, going by your logic, the left is more united.

Either way though, it doesn't matter because most americans did not vote. And if they did vote, all of them would vote for a socialist party that actually defended their material interests. Which doesn't exist at the moment because that is the thing the political and economic elite of America fear most.

Lol what? Democrats have shifted more to the left than Republicans have to the right.

How is this story propaganda? Again, I'm letting you pretend this story is 100% fiction. How is it propaganda? What falsehood is it propagating?

Neither. Punditry is the equivalent of fucking political cheerleading, and contributes nothing of value except increasing partisanship. There's a reason that Murdoch loves it - it's polarising entertainment that makes him cash and serves little other purpose.

Nah, only if your friends are cucks or sjws

Because you can't argue "America has more right wing people" when 45% of Americans don't even vote.

The only argument you could make is that of the voting Americans, more are right wing. Which, doesn't seem to be true anyway.

even if you're memeing, you really should get cancer and die
you probably already have brain cancer though, so let me rephrase
I hope it spreads

>More people voted for Hillary, user. So, going by your logic, the left is more united.
No, user, learn to math.
If you have 5 apples, and all 5 apples vote, then 100% of apples voted. If you have 10 oranges, and 6 oranges voted, then 60% of oranges voted.
So while technically oranges have more votes, they are 40% less united than apples.

When everyone who's ever worked with me AND my own sister back you up I'll probably go become an hero. Until then let's not play your silly little false-equivalence game.

Obamacare is basically exactly what the Republicans were pushing for back in the 90s.

I understand that. But that was not a correction, so I'll probably be safe to keep my assumption as-is, even if it wasn't even the point of my post.

wtf even happened? Been out drinking last night.

No, they have not. Neoliberalism as a movement is about as right wing as you can get without going full fascism.

True socialists do still exist in the west. And they are in fact on the rise again now that the fake neoliberal kind of "leftist" is dying due to their true nature being revealed.

This. Most stories on reddit are made up for gold stickers and points but they don't actually care about the content inside. It's purely robotic "will this get me more upvotes if I put it in y/n?" They'd There's not really a propaganda aspect in it.

How about you fuck off back to cuba then, spic? Why do Cubans flee to capitalist nations but none of you leftist faggots want to move to cuba?

REMINDER: IF YOU HAVE TO BLAME A NATION FOR THE DOWNFALL OF ANOTHER NATION THEN MAYBE YOUR SYSTEM ISN'T SUSTAINABLE

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The differences between the Democrats and the Republicans are pretty insignificant, apart from perhaps the issue of gun control. Obamacare is almost a non-issue - in any sane country, it wouldn't be seen as a polarising issue.

Your existence is genuinely fucking baffling to me
What kind of rich kid goes onto Yea Forums-- ostensibly in the pursuit of video game discussion--then goes into this specific thread, only to talk down to the people in it? What is your goal here?
I mean, the fact that you talk like a stereotypical JRPG villain is something in of itself, but how are you real?

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Pretty based ngl

Things are going to get worse because of this

Even if you want to argue that EVERY right wing person in America voted. Which, I don't see any evidence for that, then that still doesn't change the fact that your side is a minority manipulating the system.

The thing to keep in mind with this story is that Alec had accused Zoe of abusing him privately to his friendsDMs are out there if you want to look through twitter, and they all pressured him not to go public about it because it'd be bad for feminism or whatever. Eron also accused Zoe of abuse in their relationship, and someone named Ouren accused her of sexual abuse, and Phil Fish's response was something along the lines of "You weren't invited to that event anyway so fuck off". No denial it happened, just a bunch of people shitting on him for speaking out.
Even his sister threw him under the bus in her announcement. The real focus here should be on all the people who should've been there to support him and tell the whole truth, even if Alec was abusive, that it was a two way street.

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Developer got accused of sexual harassment /with no proof), all friends and coworkers abandoned him within a hour, he got fired and was found dead by suicide.

How do you know he will wallow for the rest of his life? People need some time to recuperate from a blow like this.
You wouldn't expect someone with a broken leg to just start walking again the day after.

Video Games

Neolibs are leftist on social issues dumbfuck. They hold no right wing stances on social policies.

Nope. mobile.twitter.com/Timcast/status/1124798285632417793/photo/1

The dems are batshit crazy leftists now. They are shilling for open borders and blatantly disregarding immigration laws.

It's the fear of communism, user. They know the end of their power is coming, and the only way they can deal with it is by pretending to be superior.

based families

If we assume that of the remaining 45%, the majority of them are left, then it only goes to show that the left has less care or ability to participate. For whatever reason, be it simple disinterest, or lack money, they never registered, etc, etc... Essentially, they are the broken pieces of the country. Again, reinforcing my point about the right being tighter.

I wish all these stories were made up, but sadly I know of a strikingly similar story in real life. my neighbor still hasn't recovered.

> middle class against capitalism.
Nice delusion here. They maybe doesn't like globohomo and want some free healcare, but nothing more.
Daily reminder, that white middle class voted Trump to power.

A bored one. You have to understand that to be a member of the 1% your family only needs to make 400k or so. I'm not talking down to anyone or being a villain. I'm simply pointing out
will never accomplish anything.

By the way, how is not talking like a JRPG villain? Listen to this melodramatic nonsense and compare it to how all these people have done is knock over a few waste baskets.

Wrong.
Most Republicans are not in favor of lgbtwtfbbq rights. Nor open borders letting every spic in, or "hate speech" laws, or any social justice cancer. They're very different on social issues.

The modern democrat party has nothing in common with classical liberals. They are progressives who are very leftist on social issues now

I thought it was the white working class.

What shitty way to go. What the cunt that accused him?

I don't care to inform you of my position, because you're just trying to find an angle to attack me, and get that dopamine hit from feeling superior.

Where I stand has no bearing on what I stated. You either argue the point, or fuck right off.

It's telling that you get your "news" about government and party policies from twitter.

Yes they have, are you fucking joking right now? The left when I was growing up in the 90s didn't give a shit about what words you used, nor did they try to do shit like push hormones on underage kids. They also weren't advocating for illegal immigration. It was always couched in the language of "well they're here already, we can't ignore them."

The left has moved WAYYYYYYY far left while the right has arguably moved to the left. See conservative's acceptance of gays for example. That wouldn't have happened in the 90s.

>Neolibs are leftist on social issues dumbfuck.
That doesn't make them actual leftist. It just makes them neo liberal fucks that aren't massive hypocrites as well.

>economist
remember neoliberalism was invented and implemented by your so called 'economists'

It's from pew research dumbfuck. Look at the bottom of the image.

Yes, leftist have less of a ability to actually participate in the democratic system. That has nothing to do with the right being more tight, it just means they are evil bastards.

You mean the rapidly vanishing middle class?

Give me a definition of term "working class".

The middle class is very fickle, user. The moment the climate disasters actually hit, you'll see them turning to socialism to defend their own living standards very quickly.

>he thinks they have anything in common with classical liberals who are for negative liberties and not cancerous "positive liberty" that leads to a massive nanny state at best, or tyranny at worst.
"Liberalism" in America has essentially had the term hijacked by progressives.
What the fuck? How does that have to do with marginalism?

Minorities are deserving of fair representation. A few key states shouldn't be able to dominate the election. Because our system is built with checks and balances in mind. If only the most populous areas have a say, then it leads to unchecked policies getting enforced.

Also, one could argue that making the lower class dependent upon your welfare, and then mobilizing them to vote for their caretakers is manipulation.

obamacare was a huge fuckup and its nothing like any other countries healthcare.
Obamacare is basically what already existed turned up a notch and now mandatory with the promise that the government will simply cover the bill. It did nothing to address actual medical costs, it was an insurance company scam start to finish written by lobbyists.

Ah, yes, I forget that the Republicans don't want to treat all humans as equals. Interesting how the primary issues in this debate are MUH GUNS, MUH FOR PROFIT HEALTHCARE and MUH RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE GAYS.

Definitely seems like a healthy society there.

Proof? No anecdotes, please.

Economists did not have any cultural agenda, unlike neo-liberals.

Do you have any reason to believe his family turned on him or is that just made up?

"Middle class" is the one that needs a definition. It's pretty clear who's a worker and who's an elite. So who exactly are these people that are in the middle, and where are the boundaries?

>You want to watch your parents die waiting for tests that finally happened way too late?
This argument is the fastest way to spot an American pretending to be from a country with UHT, really.
Anyone actually living with UHT would know that waiting lists also feature priority flags, and that you're not going to be left waiting for your exam if you're fucking dying, or if there's suspicion of an illness that needs to be treated fast.

There's also the other argument that people also conveniently ignore, that thanks to UHT, going to a private clinic costs you 1/100th of what it would cost you in America to be treated by the shittiest public hospital.
Doctors have to compete with completely free healthcare in their pricing, and even buying yourself "the best" is going to cost you a ton of money less than it would have costed you to buy the shittiest doctor in the States.

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Oh, certainly. But it's the kind of vapid political gesture that wouldn't cause a huge shitstorm anywhere else.

>"Liberalism" in America has essentially had the term hijacked by progressives.
the term progressive is used wrong here, its the hijacked term, not liberalism.

No, it means the left are broken welfare dependants.

>America is giving aid and military protection to
>Fucking
>Cuba
So this is Galaxy Brain Right Wing...

Social issues are not important. The people pushing progressive social issues are, more often than not, neo liberal scumbags. There are also socialists pushing progressive social values, but that still doesn't change the fact that American politics has been moving right in every way that actually matters for decades.

Not an argument. Trannies aren't people.
Dems are pretty much left wing on any social issue now. Just look at their stance on immigration now.

I agree, i feel bad for Jeffrey Epstein too. Driven to suicide by the MSM before he could have a fair trial, with zero actual evidence, just hearsay and testimony from "victims".

Yes, those increasingly more angry people.

>"Liberalism" in America has essentially had the term hijacked by progressives.
It's been hijacked by corporations looking to increase their power.

No. It's just that the people that are oppressed by the system are, you know, oppressed.

Actually, when the climate disaster hit I will be in Siberia, leaved behind this burning dumpster with poorfags.

American born white man reporting in. I actually agree with him lol. U mad?

You're literally letting someone else interpret that data for you and tell you how "batshit crazy left" the Democrats have become, you fucking muppet.

Not that guy, but:
academia.org/american-vs-canadian-health-care/

>750,000 are on a waiting list for a procedure” out of 33 million Canadians.
>“17 percent (or 5 million) are waiting to get a primary doctor…When you hear on the front page of the New York Times that we can reduce costs by having more primary care doctors …I can tell you that in Canada very few people go into primary care because they are the lowest paid doctor on the totem pole.” In 2006, according to the Organization of Economic Co-operation and Development(OECD), Canada ranked 26th out of 30 countries surveyed in doctors per thousand people.
>“The average wait today in Canada from seeing a primary care doctor to getting treatment by a specialist is over 4 months.”
>“Canada ranks 14th out of 25 countries in MRI machines and 19th in access to CT scanners according to the OECD.” As a result, it takes an average of 10 weeks to gain access to an MRI just to find out what the problem is.

This literally never happens in America. I can get an urgent care appointment in less than 24 hours for something stupid and trivial like a cold.

That's not going to work. Poor people are very good at immigrating. And once enough of them form, even Siberia isn't going to be safe for scumbags like you.

>reasonably intelligent person
>lefty
LOL

>No. It's just that the people that are oppressed by the system are, you know, oppressed.
They're not oppressed by the system. The system actually babies welfare recipients.

Strange, I don't remember God descending from heaven and giving you the go-ahead to decide who people are. Must have happened when I was asleep.

>reeeee trannyan make me feel icky
P a t h e t i c

I wasn't thinking of what I said as an "attack". But thanks to the nature of anonymous posting I had to assume from your post about communities, that you feel at home and are more knowledgeable of one side than the other.

And to the original point, it's weird to say that when the left side of thinking is that the government should support those who aren't as well off as the others. How is that undermining the health of families or communities?

>give women rights
>world starts to get progressively worse
>men are turned into sissies that wont be able to resist
>this is how the mankind ends
wish it was aliens or something

>Progressivism in the United States is a broadly based reform movement that reached its height early in the 20th century. It was middle class and reformist in nature. It arose as a response to the vast changes brought by modernization, such as the growth of large corporations, pollution and fears of corruption in American politics. In the 21st century, progressives continue to embrace concepts such as environmentalism and social justice.[1]
The socjus cancer is why they're leftist. The OG liberals didn't preach socjus cancer and were for negative individual rights. These sycophants have nothing in common with people like Locke, Smith, or Rosseau.

Not a argument, user. Leftist are inherently more rational and sensible, both economic and in regards to social issues, than the right wing.

Retarded false equivalence isn't just a tool of Trump now, huh?

>I genuinely hate the family unit as a concept
I wonder who's behind this post.

>Social issues are not important
That's a cute trick for disregarding literally every despicable thing the left is doing today. Social issues are also the heart of politics. Politics is not fucking economics, it's people dealing with social shit.

They are oppressed by the system, that's why they don't vote. Welfare in America is mostly non existent anyway.

Zoe Quinn, I shit you not.

It's written like a bad drama, from the first person, it's literally the story of a father admitting to the public how much of a shitty father he is.
This is pure fiction and the only reason it's being posted here is to fuel someone's hate, is that so hard to understand?

>Is it really so impossible to believe that a woman (not ALL women) can lie and be evil?
Absolutely not, but you know where we are, right? Any drama like this would be enough to fuel another gamergate.

user, these cases happen ALL THE TIME, may it be cause by one side or the other, the real problem is how people are painted as guilty until proven innocent, it has nothing to do with sexes and everything to do with the media (and social media) and their impact on the actual outcome of such cases.

40% yourself freaks. Leftism is an utter cancer.

posted in the other thread but felt like it needed saying here too...
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Open borders mixed with Socialism is anything but "rational and sensible"

Men are literally refusing to get relationships, much less married, so they don't end up in prison for crimes they didn't commit. The concept of family and offspring are vanishing.

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>seething, between tears,MAGA hat squeezing his fat head, he bashes his flabby arms wildly against the keyboard as he wails impotently

So no new game to fuel more futa Mae porn?

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People whose views were formed by an entirely different world than the one we live in, and while excellent reading for the historical context and philosophy contained within, are for the most part about as useful as Das Kapital.

Rofl, right babe, i'm sure THAT's why you're single.

>That's a cute trick for disregarding literally every despicable thing the left is doing today
It's not a cute trick, in fact, it's not even a trick at all. The only people being tricked are the likes of you.

>Politics is not fucking economics, it's people dealing with social shit.
Like, you do realize you are literally being played when you say nonsense like this? You are like a puppet being used in a proxy war. While the actual political conflict, which has always been economical in nature, is being waged without you.

What do you mean? Happens all the time. In my city its hard to even find a primary care doctor. If you dont already have one you basically dont have one, instead you have to go to urgent care.
And even if you do have one, i have been refereed to specialists and had to wait a couple months to see them.
Lets not forget all the stories of people dying in emergency room waiting rooms.

Medical imaging is pretty much the only place the US has an advantage, i needed an MRI for a non emergency and only had to wait a couple weeks to get it. But im pretty sure in emergency situations you could get things done immediately in canada as you can here.

I'm not from the US. I don't give a shit you fucking mutt. The world doesn't revolve around shitmerica

the only thing i've ever seen of her was from boogie and it made me cum buckets

You seem... triggered, friend.

It's not about family turning on people. It's about us taking joy from the fact that YOUR family will turn on YOU the moment you're accused, because you are a member of a dirty little subculture that doesn't believe in due process or the rule of law, and we are not.

I mean, it probably won't happen to you, but you'd better watch your back and be on good terms with your exes.

> oh yeah, tax me to death, import emigrants and destroy labour market, this is so sensible.

Socialism is completely rational assuming that you aren't in the upper class. It's called "material interests".

As for open borders, eh, it depends. It's rationality depends completely on context.

I'm pretty sure the lesson here is to not be a weak little bitch who cares so much about what people online say about you.

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Based. Because society is way more leftist now, people can get fired and have their lives ruined for "misgendering" someone. Anyone who thinks society is more right wing now is retarded. Trannies would be treated as nutcases in the paat.

Why do you talk like an NPC?

>tax me to death
No, only the rich are taxed significantly. As they should be.

> import emigrants
Not necessary in a non capitalist system.

>destroy labour market
Capitalism destroyed the labour market, don't try to pretend otherwise.

>How is that undermining the health of families or communities?
Because people turn to government for help, instead of family. For example, say you're poor as shit and need help getting by. Well why stay at your parent's house, when you can just apply for a government subsidized apartment? The independence sounds pretty sweet. But you don't benefit from the emotional support of your family, as you don't see them very often. You don't have to work too hard, because management will lower the rent to suit you. Hell, you can even lose your job, and your rent goes down to zero. You can continue like this for years. You don't need to worry about food, because you applied for food stamps, and the less you make, the more money they give you. Every incentive to work hard and prosper is stripped away from you, until you're a willess husk of what you once were.

>still cannot give an explanation as to how neolibs barely having anything in common with classical liberals

I'm not arguing socialism in general, I'm arguing against it if you mix it with extremely lax immigration policies
It's been shown to work in homogeneous societies but also falls apart when you introduce third world savages with no concept of morality

being on welfare is a form of oppression
they are all ontological idealists. The current state of things is just the natural progression of the delusions of the previous state of things, based on fictions like natural rights and values like individualism.

What is cute is thinking you're a part of any "war." You just play with your bleep bloop toys while the actual conflict is waged without you...by the rich and powerful.

I'd rather be the cringiest kekistani faggot than ever be a nutcase lefty tranny my man. And I can guarantee you virtually everybody would choose the same.

>While the actual political conflict, which has always been economical in nature, is being waged without you.
Marxist nonsense. Politics has existed long before free trade economies. Politics is about using/exploiting social differences to gain power. Economics is sometimes part of it, but it's leftist nonsense to equate ALL of politics to money.

If you get called on rape on twitter, your life gets destroyed nowadays.

There hasn't been a mix of a lax immigration policy and socialism.

>Welfare in America is mostly non existent anyway.
I know for fact this is a lie, because I have first hand experience. People can live a pretty comfy life on welfare.

>They are oppressed by the system, that's why they don't vote
That's no excuse. If you're being wronged in some way, then you should have even more incentive to vote. No system is preventing anyone from voting. Only their own lack of will.

>wtf I'm expected to show common human decency to others

The entire foundational theory of the left, historical materialism, says that society is just the result of its relation of production. There is literally nothign but economics and peoples natural reaction to it, according to the left.
Anyone who divides economics and 'social issues' as if they are separate things not directly linked has just exposed themselves as not being left to start with.

>There hasn't been a mix of a lax immigration policy and socialism
What the fuck is Sweden and Germany then?

You realise that's exactly what he's telling you, right?

The fact you even use the words "rich and powerful" here indicates that maybe he's got a point about economics being important here, don't you think?

Fuckoff you oil tzar cookboytoy

Don't know if they still have them but /trash/ used to have NITW threads full of good porn, you could check there.

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Fuck off yank. Not everything has to be left or right.

>virtually everybody
lol imagine believing this

>being on welfare is a form of oppression
In a sense, yes. It's poisonous, if unchecked.

I know. I just thought it was funny because he knows it and yet can't do anything about it except yell at retards on a toy forum. I Have No Power but I Can Scream basically.

No, the war is between people like me and the rich and powerful. Only idiots like you that fall for the social issues meme are the exception.

Politics and economics have always been two sides of the same coin. That's how it always been, even before free trade economics, and that's how it will always be.

>Politics is about using/exploiting social differences to gain power.
Power is economics.

Capitalist countries with progressive social values.

Thanks, This really makes me feel better about living in a box now. I guess I just gotta stop caring about what people online said about me.
Excuse me now I gotta go scrounge for pudding cup lids to lick or a sharp object to slit my throat with, whatever I find first really.

>hijacked by corporations
neolibs have nothing in common with classical liberals. Classical liberalism developed into libertarianism, while progressivism morphed into "liberalism" in the US.

Why are right wingers so perpetually fucking asshurt Yea Forums?

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I can't believe he's gone. I just heard about him yesterday.

I see you're in the boat that Socialism has never been tried

>Anyone who divides economics and 'social issues' as if they are separate things not directly linked has just exposed themselves as not being left to start with.
Jesus, the left is fucking retarded then. What does 50 genders have to do with economics? What does the school taking a political stance on 50 genders have to do with the movement of money?

It's so goddamn shortsighted and stupid only someone with a useless PhD could believe it.

Dilate, leftcuck. Your ideology is an abomination of horrors.

What kind of welfare are you supposedly living on then?

>That's no excuse.
If the system is actively trying to prevent you from voting. Then yes, that is a excuse.

Why was jared so much stronger than this cu ck?

To anger a leftist tell him the truth, to anger a conservative lie to him.

Few things are worse than being a freak with enough emotional baggage to fill a cargo ship.

>No, the war is between people like me and the rich and powerful
How is that "war" going then? You have your twitter activists on the front lines? What about the trash bin brigade? The elite squadron pulling fire alarms at universities? I know you're on Yea Forums team six, bravely arguing on a toy forum for the war effort.

Richfag just can avoid taxes with offshores and outsourcing. Or they just can moved to another country.
> capitalism destroying labour market
And how? Look on Switzerland, Japan and Taiwan. Their labour markets pretty ok . This is how capitalism without huge emigration and welfare system looks like.

Not this user but e621.net/post/show/1373987

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_medieval_England
If you care to read, you'll see that Parliament and the House of Commons, which is more or less the first "modern" political system, comes about as a direct result of royal taxation, which is, interestingly, an economic act.

Those are all problems the left and neocons created, FYI.
>health care
Racially homogeneous societies don't generate new diseases.
The solution to expensive healthcare is to stop importing 3rd world immigrants and paying hospitals to treat them pro bono.
Supply and demand.

>the environment
Government shouldn't regulate environmental concerns by committee, they should contract out to private firms and offer incentives for good work.
Californians drink a soup of literal sewage and birth control pills because they rely on government to keep their environments clean.
Trannies are products of funds mismanagement and hazardous waste, go figure.

>education
Not a federal concern.
Standardizing education and programs like affirmative action have dramatically reduced the quality of educated workers to the point they need to be trained from the ground up to be any use to an employer.
H1B spam works not just because the labor is cheap.

>endless war
Wasn't it the Clintons who ignored all the warnings about Al Qaeda and even funded them?
That mess is still being cleaned up.

>massive wealth disparity
Welcome to socialism.
It'll get worse if you push full-on communism.

>the rise of authoritarian corporatist (fascist) governments
Which side was pro-government again?

>the militarization of the police
Racially homogeneous societies don't need to deal with regular shootings.
Stop importing crime and it goes away, then police don't have to be trained like soldiers.

>private prisons
They only work if rehabilitation is possible.
Animals that never had any intention of following laws cannot be rehabilitated. Stop importing and enabling animals and the system works fine.

>too-big-to-fail financial institutions
Corporate welfare is a socialist policy.

Fuck off and die /pol/tranny.

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Doesn't change the fact that liberalism as a concept was hijacked by corporations.

Funny, my boomer uncle who is a a borderline schizo posted that to Facebook earlier this week.

Go look at Kotaku's new article
>Jared's new video denying the allegations
lol he posted proof yet they want to make it sound like he's merely denying them.

>"BAAAAWWW HE USED THE WRONG PRONOUN"
clown world

>September 1, 2019. My carpal tunnel has flared up again after a long day in my basement. Legs are beginning to get sore from sitting in one place. But we beat the enemy back on reddit and the Yea Forums offensive is looking up.

Not really.

Capitalism is still worse. Killed more people as well.

>using/exploiting social differences
social differences are caused by class, class is based now entirely on production class (since the beourgoisie abolished legal class, which was another form of class distinction present in feudal and earlier relations of production)

It has nothing to do with money, it has to do with wealth. A person who employs another is not in a equal social relationship, a person who rents from another is not in an equal social relationship. In these cases these peoples very existence and survival depends on these unequal relationships and they are obliged to suffer exploitation and loss of dignity to simply continue existing.

>cherry picked data point
>politics began in England

This is why they stopped teaching the Greeks I think. It's to make retards like you who have no sense of proportion. Read Plato's The Republic and particularly his opinion on why democracies always devolve into tyrannies. It's just as applicable today as it was 2000 years ago.

>TFW you:
>Lean left, support high taxation and the social/health services it brings in return
>Think open trade and movement between countries is good, but you should watch that you don't bring criminals/terrorists to your country
>Think that battling climate change is more important than corporate income at its expense
>Think that relying on scientific data and statistics is more important than listening to anyone's feelings
>Acknowledge that some cultures have harmful conventions which affect negatively to their population's AVERAGE worth in many societies, even if there are good and bad individuals in any given culture

>Lefties see you as a racist shitlord
>Righties see you as a cuckshed basedboi

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you wanted vanilla? too bad! today's theme is rape!

It's the whole way you put things, eschewing simpler words and grammar for more complex/refined vocabulary and grammatical structure for little reason
Ex: "melodramatic nonsense" and "waste baskets" instead of "bullshit" and "trash cans"
Or: Typing "Hahahahaha." instead of just "lol," or your use of ellipses like in "'Someday, someday...'"
Not to mention your whole general taunting tone, using the paper-thin
>I'm just pointing out the obvious! These lowborn can never accomplish anything!
excuse for your shittery is schlock anime/RPG writing 101
You fit the "haughty nobleman's son" role/stereotype so well that it's hard to believe you actually exist, hence my earlier statement

>marxishit unironically believing in outdated concepts such as "surplus labor"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_product

>Racially homogenous societies don't create diseases
Good thing Europe was 100% white throughout history or else they might have had a plague or something.

What countries in your opinion have done Socialism then?

It's obviously a one-sided war. The rich are the ones doing all the fighting. Like the famous Warren Buffet quote.

>>TFW you:
>>Lean left, support high taxation and the social/health services it brings in return
Don't tell me your job, but how much do you make? I am certain you do not make a lot of money.

The modern left is worse than christian moms in the 90s. At least they calmed down and admitted rock wasnt the devils music and Pokemon werent satanic creatures.

The left will blacklist you and drive you to suicide for disagreeing with them.

>capitalism is still worse
Kek says the rich leftist who wont give up his wealth for the masses but expects others to do so
You disgusting hypocrites need to be dragged out of your homes and shot in public

Lol Marx opposed borders and nationalism you kvetching leftypol cunt.

>The rich are the only ones doing anything
I can see that.

>only the rich are taxed significantly
>believing this

any tax that isn't a flat sales tax is taxing me significantly, dude

I don't claim to know anything about obamacare, but from what you said, isn't it just like what we have in France?
Basically, free healthcare reimbursed in the major part by the government.
I don't see why anyone would be against something like that except lobbyists.

their form of democracy was different. its the best system we got.

>How is that "war" going then?
Pretty well, all things considered. The left is back on the rise again as the right continues to fuck up.

>Richfag just can avoid taxes with offshores and outsourcing.
Should be banned.

>Or they just can moved to another country.
Good. Beats having to kill them.

> Their labour markets pretty ok
The labour market in japan and Taiwan is literally driving people to suicide. It's not fine.

Meanwhile, Switzerland is literally build upon banks that get money from african dictators.

the way the legs move is what gets me the most

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>A fancy term for the money the business owners pocket pockets at the expense of those employed
Okay retard

>eschewing
Wow why not just say substituting. Pretentious anime schlock...

>unironically buying into class warfare
This is the dumbest political conversation I've had in months. Protip: Marxism relies on your internalized guilt over class privilege. This is why every marxist faggot on campus comes from an upper middle class bourgeois background and spends all of their time kvetching about how oppressed they are in every way other than economic. It's all fucking insecurity and deflection.

Marxism takes advantage of your insecurity and propensity to deflect.

Because "surplus value" meme was debunked hundreds of times by economists.
Also this is just shitty image without any proofs.
Also every history books proves that you are retards, without any knowledge about how economy works. Every socialists country was a failure.

Huh?
I keep seeing progressives calling themselves liberal. What liberal stances do they hold? They oppose negative and economic freedom, and you still want to claim they're right wing?

Oh, and also the fact that you respond to everything directed at you, no matter how small or petty

> I am certain you do not make a lot of money.
Most people don't.

>Plato applicable in a post-apocalyptic psychic echo chamber bardot populated by alien tulpa mimics

There is no book to handle this aside maybe from Wisher, Theurgist, Fatalist rulebooks.

Fuck niggers
Fuck spics
Fuck jannies
Fuck trannies
Fuck chinks
Fuck poos
CHEERS

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>Pretty well, all things considered. The left is back on the rise again as the right continues to fuck up.
The Democrats? Oh yes please continue voting for them.

I don't know what sort of a communist utopia would be able to support you so hard that you'd actually forget about your family and friends altogether. Typically the countries where you have support as an unemployed person tend to give you support depending on your situation and past work details. If you're just living by leeching tax money, it's barely enough to keep you off streets.

Switzerland is one of the most expensive countries in the world. I love it, but it's not somewhere I'd enjoy living. I've paid the equivalent of $60 for a single course meal in a restaurant there. There are other issues, but that's a pretty good example.

Japan suffers from an ageing population, some REAL weird social issues, and people regularly work themselves to death there. I wouldn't consider it a healthy society by any margin.

Taiwan has one of the slowest growing economies in that entire region, and is beset by stagnant (low) wages, and also relies heavily on exporting tech products. It also as a country exists only because China hasn't drank enough shaoxing yet to decide they can just take it back.

>Go look at Kotaku
I've never been so uninterested in reading the rest of a post after such a sentence.

New thread

>Roght-wingers actually believe that corporations are conspiring to bring about a system that is highly critical of corporations and capitalism
Double-Think.

Take econ 101 some time dumbfuck. "Surplus labor" isn't even a thing.

>Literally no modern priests take atheism seriously
Since LTV is now closely associated with Marxism and anti-capitalist thought, they wouldn’t have a job if they took it seriously. It has, in effect, been socially discredited, but not empirically or logically discredited.

And since their discipline is little more than capitalist astrology, most of these “economists” are just the high priests of the capitalist order.

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>What kind of welfare are you supposedly living on then?
Section 8 housing. I live alone, and I don't have to worry about rent ever being too high, because they adjust it to my income. It's a pretty spacious apartment for 1, or even 2. Full bedroom, kitchen, dining room, living room. It's not some studio apartment hovel, like I hear people complain about on sitcoms. Honestly, I never saw a studio apartment in real life, like how is it even legal to rent something that small, when I'm living in this at a steep discount.

Anyway, this place is fully service, seeing regular maintenance. Central cooling and heating. Wifi hotspots. No insects or pests, except the occasional spider here or there. It's pretty sweet. I laugh when people say welfare is nonexistent.

>If the system is actively trying to prevent you from voting.
It's not.

And let me add to that by saying
Fuck Whites
Fuck Everybody
MAZEL TOV

How does replying to people replying to you make you an anime villain? Is this that game people play where they pretend the person on the other side of the screen is actually totally mad no really?

I wonder if anyone is going to even try to gun down Zoe Quinn. Surprised no one Chan nutjob hasn't tried, or at least kidnapped her

None of these are issues are caused by the left. All of them are the result of unchecked capitalism, the nobility, and imperialism.

Please tell me how the fact that the average worker adds $100,000 in value to their employer a year while their wages are likely to $30,000 or less has been debunked.

New thread

I'm pretty much spot on middle class. Slightly above median pay.

>Dude just take a corporate indoctrination lesson that teaches you to worship le ebin free market

It makes you subservient. The entire point of socialism is to make everyone socially equal. Everyone owns the means of production, everyone works, nobody has a higher material position within society, so even the street cleaner who might in purely social terms be considered less prestigious than someone everyone looks to for leadership, both of them are seen as being equally important roles within society, as both are needed, and both are doing their part for the good of all, and both are equally entitled and deserving of equal ownership, and equally entitled to the benefits of societies securities and comforts.

To be on welfare you are on unequal footing. "he who feeds you controls you"

>What does 50 genders have to do with economics?
nothing, 50 genders is purely idealist in nature, and not materialist. It, like all identity politics, is liberal bourgeoisie in nature. In general the big push to mainstream and really focus on identity politics happened around operation wall street, either as an intentional subversion or just the old problem of for some reason americans being absolutely retarded and in love with idpol.

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you're a living meme lol

>I don't know what sort of a communist utopia would be able to support you so hard that you'd actually forget about your family and friends altogether.
Welcome to welfare in America.

That is okay. I was trying to guess, and apparantly got right that someone who earns very little wants the richer to pay more.No malice intended.

The USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea.

They all failed. But so did most early democratic states. Not much of a reason to stop.

I have no idea what the fuck is going on. Didn't even knew about this game, so I started looking. Realized some dude called Alec Holowka has died or killed himself, ok.

Apparently there was a fuss in the dev studio he worked at? check.

Found Zoe Quinn's wikipedia article
>Quinn, who uses the gender-neutral pronoun "THEY"

Fuck. I'm so sorry for this man. It was definitely suicide. If only people were as good as myself at spotting redflags.

He’s probably more qualified

>bu-but nothing is the fault of communism! Its all the big bad businessman! We should all share!
Why dont you start? Empty your bank account for the poor nignogs and spics you wish to empower, then you might earn some respect

Man it really is fucked up how your life can get ruined from false accusations. You could just be a normal guy on your break and coincidently have it at the same time as a girl and one day she decides to cry "rape" and boom, your life is ruined. What the fuck is wrong with this god forsaken world?

Not him but how many games do we see that deflected criticism to sexism, racism, nazis etc etc. Why wouldn't they coop it for a get out of scutiny free card and a positive spin from the soiboys journalisrmts to boot?

Modern politics did, actually, begin in England. The Greek system certainly predates it, yes, but has almost very little in common with it, due to Greece being a system of warring city states at the time with very little stability. Democracy in Greece tended to exist sporadically, often being regularly rescinded by tyrants, archons, and others.

yeah, ""right-wing"" women don't have as much of a history falsely accusing guys of rape as authoritarian leftist #metoo type women

jesus christ is this some fucking discord raid? what the fuck is this bullshit and how does any of this have to do with the topic at hand you self-important fucks?

>true communism was never tried!
kek

I'm not even that rich at the moment. Once I am, I do intend to use it to better the situation of others.

Opposing nationalism and borders is not the same thing as wanting mass immigration, dumbass.

Then you are just being whiny. Get that stick out of your ass, and stop complaining that people need money to build roads.

And you say Capitalism is somehow worse after you name those off?

New thread

There's a difference between legitimate discussion and shitpostery, you respond to the first and ignore the latter
Anyways, I'm turning in for the night, hope you find your place user, because I don't see how you're doing it h

>I'm not even that rich at the moment.
There's a shock.
>T-this economic system sucks anyway.

>They oppose negative and economic freedom, and you still want to claim they're right wing?
They don't oppose economic freedom. If they did, they would be trying to kill corporate power altogether.

>once I am
Yeah, I'm sure you will, faggot. There's absolutely no reason to doubt that you will completely throuw away everything you spend your life earning from the goodness of your soul
See, this is why communism will never work. From the very basic foundation, it is steeped in lies and hypocrisy

Who else believes in God?

Shalom brother
L'CHAIM

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>As more and more of variable input (labor) is employed, marginal product starts to fall. Finally, after a certain point, the marginal product becomes negative, implying that the additional unit of labor has decreased the output, rather than increasing it. The reason behind this is the diminishing marginal productivity of labor.

Neat, didn't know there was an economics formula for the "mythical man month".

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*here.
Also there's no point in having a discussion with you clowns. You cry about the system but do nothing to change it. Enjoy your sleep and dream of progress because lord knows it's the only way you're going to get it.

Most democrats are right wing as all hell.

>greater context is for faggots, every nation exists in their own pocket dimension

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Holy fuck the mental gymnastics.
>hurr economists would lose their jobs if more of them believed in the ltv
Jesus fucking christ. Marxist economists exist, but the vast majority of economists be it Keynesian, Austrian school, neoclassical, etc do not take outdated theories such as the LTV seriously anymore, because marginalism explains the value of commodities much better.
Cockshott isn't even an economist. He's a computer scientist. If he can prove the LTV, why hasn't he published his findings in a peer-reviewed journal so it could be scrutinized?

Post proofs, when.
Also, I bet that these 100,000k doesn't include employer expenditure.

I believe in a waifu harem paradise after death.

>pretending USA is not an oligarchy where your taxes pay for Apple to have trillions in the bank

that's just corporate socialism. stupid anons are fine with that, but not for the wellbeing of their fellow American. how sad.

So how is the left wing on the rise then if only populist neocons are running for office?

>MUH CONSPIRACY
kys chapotranny faggot

Go to bed you dumb NEETs

I intend to empty my bank account once I actually have a account to empty. Currently, i'm a poor student trying to do a ICT study.

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Yes. By a wide margin.

I don't deserve any money I would earn. Literally the only reason I have it is because of my dad. I want enough that I won't have to worry much about money. The rest i'll give away instead of spending it on stupid crap like expensive cars.

Harass Zoe Quinn!

reading about your system it seems the prices of things are in some way negotiated for you by the government. There is nothing like that here, prices are whatever the provider wants to charge, and often fully invisible to the patient because as almost everyone has some form of health insurance all negotiation is done behind the sceens. The result is the same procedure might cost an order of magnitude different just across the street, and even within that same facility different insurances might end up paying a different amount for it.

The largest insurance provider in the us, medicare, which is what retirees and government pensions and such use, has like 30something% of the population using it. It is however illegal for medicare to even negotiate prices, instead they must pay based on what the insurance companies have managed to negotiate. The reason is lobbyists complained to congress that it would be anticompetitive and unfair if such a large entity, thus having a large amount of bargaining power, was able to negotiate, because it would be harder for the private insurances to profit.

In the end the US pays twice per capita what the second most expensive healthcare in the world is, all because free market morons dont want any sort of regulation on prices.

Obamacare was basically 'everything stays exactly the same only the government will subsidize things if prices get too high ;^)'
Further it obliged all people to have some form of insurance out of pocket and taxed them if they didnt, the idea here was to get everyone 'insured' for propaganda purposes. With the token concession that insurance companies could now no longer decline to cover people for preexisting conditions.

At the last minute congress changed the whole thing however, and left it as is but removed that 'and the government will cover costs if things start to get fucked up' clause, meaning what was meant to be a scam to benefit insurance companies now actually kind of hurt them.

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Because left leaning people are actually trying to run for office. And left leaning rhetoric is entering the discourse.

So how does Zoe have so much power in the Indie game scene?

what the fuck, I thought Quinn was female all this time

>Marxism relies on your internalized guilt over class privilege
No it doesnt.
Stop confusing larping radlibs with communists. Those same people probably think they can vote in socialism.

Marxism accurately explains both the past and predicts the future in falsifiable ways which prove to be true. Engels predicted a lot of what we see today.

Despite the fact the highest quality of life we have today is due to Capitalism and that the best countries are capitalist?

At the moment. I'm probably going to earn bank once I actually finish my study. And if not, eh, i'll manage.

Interesting read, thanks.

And that's where it will stay. You're all talk.

Tell you what, if Yea Forums is still around exactly 10 years from now, I'll make a thread to laugh at how wrong you were when another neocon stooge gets elected.

>Despite the fact the highest quality of life we have today is due to Capitalism
No, it's due to science and leftist pushing back against unchecked capitalism.

>and that the best countries are capitalist?
They would have been the best countries regardless of what ideology they adopted. Russia was a shithole before communism, during communism, and after communism.

IT'S TIME

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That's not where it's going to stay. The fact that you people are obviously terrified is proof enough of that. And even if you do keep it down, the inevitable climate disaster is going to end capitalism no matter who wins in ten years.

You can't stop progress.

>then I'll give it away instead of spending it
>not pass it down to your children
>Not invest it in something like land, stocks, etc so your future generations can benefit
Family as a unit is truly dead
>i dont deserve any money I would earn
Then you wouldnt get paid you cumguzzler, that's the basic tenet of capitalism. Anything you earn is from effort.
>Literally the only reason I have it is because of my dad
You disgusting troglodyte. Do you have any idea how hard your father worked, and all the challenges he faced to acquire so much money that you can actually type this without an ounce of shame? And you want to just throw it away on niggers and spics just so that they can waste it on more crack and weed?

>and leftist pushing back against unchecked capitalism
That's definitely what caused the industrial revolution, leftist politics

>getting more left wing as you age

Literally cringe, check your test levels tranny

Alright see you in ten years from
Until then, sweet dreams.

I pay taxes into a system that becomes more defunct and prone to misuse every year, a fucking sprawling mess of bureaucratic bullshit that can barely approve funds for the cold patches in the cratered-out roads I have to beat my car up on, but yeah I'm being whiny. Obviously, more taxes would fix the situation. You should lead by example, and go for 100% tax on your paycheck bro

dude, it's good for maybe 20%. while the other 60% are debt slaves if you live in merica and the other 20% might as well say they hail from a third world shithole.

i like USA, but it has problems with using their citizens as expendable worker drones that are only good for the profit they make.

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>They would have been the best countries regardless of what ideology they adopted
Every civilization, culture, city that ever existed was capitalist, motherfucker

Name some of those predictions. Marx predicted that socialist revolutions would happen in the west, when in fact they happened in third world poverty-ridden nations.
>unchecked capitalism
In essence these nations are essentially welfare capitalists. The means of production are still privately owned, and private property exists. Why? Because those are essential for a prosperous country.
>they would've remained the same!
Except that's wrong. China improved greatly under Deng's capitalist reforms. Hundreds of millions got out of poverty and the middle-class was born. The Chinese economy became a superpower.

I don't want children anyway. And even if I did, it would be very hypocritical for me to invest in them.

>Anything you earn is from effort.
No, in my case everything I would earn is the result of my father supporting me when I needed it the most.

>Do you have any idea how hard your father worked
My father actively brags about how he doesn't have to work hard.

>And you want to just throw it away on niggers and spics just so that they can waste it on more crack and weed?
No, i want to use it to improve the world.

>Alright see you in ten years from
Sure! And i'll see you in thirty.

Probably before you get decapitated. But hey, don't say I didn't warn you.

Then fix the system, dumbass. Taxes are a necessary thing to keep a country functioning.

In a way, I do actually agree. It doesn't matter though, because the countries that did well did so in spite of capitalism.

>redditspacing
Obviously
>I want to use it to improve the world!
>t. jobless liberal arts college student
Try earning your own bread and living for yourself without daddy's money, faggot

Finland at the start of the 20th century was very poor, had littke industrialization and was mostly agrarian. It fought a civil war against the commies funded by the soviets in 1918 and won: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
Remained capitalist, and now it's a developed nation while Russia is a 5th world shithole.

>countries that did well did so in spite of capitalism
Oh yeah, that's why capitalist shithole america has welfare, scholarships, and forced diversity hires while a commie paradise NK has starving citizens, constant policing and propoganda vomiting at every corner. Truly heights that we should aspire to be

> Because those are essential for a prosperous country.
Nope. Democratic ownership of a corporation would be the best.

>In essence these nations are essentially welfare capitalists.
Some are. But even there, the welfare is actively being torn down by corporations for the sake of creating more money.

>China improved greatly under Deng's capitalist reforms.
Most of the groundwork to make that possible was done by socialists. And even then, modern china is still a shithole. Most of its problems caused by capitalism.

because of strong social cohesion. we're talking about capitalist countries that are using taxpayer money to give trillion dollar companies tax refunds.

If you go to an actual homeless encampment in SF, you will notice a lot of little orange plastic things. Those are caps for needles. The majority of homeless people here are on heroin, crack, meth, or are just plain alcoholics. Their lives aren't really applicable to the lives of debt slaves.

t. lives in the Tenderloin

>Try earning your own bread and living for yourself without daddy's money, faggot
Already doing that.

Also, I'm not studying arts.

and that's just not SF. how many ghettos does america have? there are tens of thousands of impoverished communities that are sort of like the tenderloin.

>Marx predicted that socialist revolutions would happen in the west
The great wars complicated things. After ww2 we did have a very pro-labor economic situation in the west, and it is responsible for how good things were. People were afraid of socialism and so tried to prevent it, and were successful. But then by the 70s the capitalists, predictably, were not happy simply being allowed to exist with their heads intact, they wanted more and so neoliberalism occurred, and its been driving things to shit for everyone but the top 5% ever since.
This is why socialism is inevitable, sooner or later. Porky just cant help himself.

"Someday...someday.Thirty years from now, I'll be a winner for sure!"

Finland wasn't a shithole before capitalism. It was a poor exploited colony that managed to retain it's culture despite everybody's best efforts to stamp it out.

America is rich because of imperialism. For every person it helped, which was only a small part of the population, they spread just as much misery somewhere else.

>Most of its problems caused by capitalism
Let's just ignore the near century of brutal, overbearing communist control

as far as predictions that have come true, engels would not have been surprised by streamers at all. He predicted almost everyone would become a prostitute, and thats what streamers are.

Nothing is stopping co-ops from being formed in a capitalist society. It's just that outside of vegan bakeries, only a few are successful enough.
>most of the groundwork to make that possible was done by socialists?
How? Mao expelled Deng for being a "capitalist roadster." The capitalist reforms saved China as the poverty rate was very high, and the economy stagnated for decades. Is China perfect? Nope, but it's way better now than it ever was under Mao.

It's inevitable, user.

As opposed to the preceding millenniums of brutal, overbearing, monarchist control.

"Someday..."

>Just fix the system! It's so easy!
Thanks bro. I'll do that. I'll go ahead and stop being broke while I'm at it too. Hey, Maybe you can fix your reading comprehension!

>But nooooo!
Alright then, forget America. Japan, Canada, UK, Ireland, Germany, Australia, I can keep going, fuckboi
You can replace america with any of these and my previous post would still be valid

>monarchist
I thought you said Capitalism caused the shithole that is China?

You ever notice how communists are all poor and broke and can't actually affect change?

I never said it was a shithole. It was poor and largely rural at the start of the 20th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Finland#History

>poor communist
like clockwork

>Nothing is stopping co-ops from being formed in a capitalist society.
Again, the systems in place exist to make sure that such things are quickly stomped into the ground. Obviously, a fair democratically run company can't compete with a brutal exploitative private one. Just like how for most of human history, a fair democratic system was incapable of competing with a brutal aristocratic dictatorship.

>How?
By forcefully dragging the country into the modern world.

>By forcefully dragging the country into the modern world
so you've got nothing

>Communists calling me communist because I think the tax system is fucked up
Oy vey

Not true at all. Even in socdem nations co-ops are largely local businesses. Companies like mondragon are the exception, not trend. Keep thinking it's a grand conspiracy though.

Yep.

It's not easy. But "Our system is bad, so taxes are bad" is a nonsensical argument.

>Japan.
Massively exploits its own workforce. To the point that suicide is common.

>Canada.
>Uk.
>Australia.
All basically the same as America. Imperialism works, unfortunately.

>Ireland.
Literally a entire nation build upon non existent fantasy money.

>Germany.
It's Germany. When it comes to hard working people, they are in a league of their own.

I find it ironic that people who can't even manage their own lives are so critical of others for not being able to manage a massive complex economy for the most powerful country in the world.

I never said anything about no taxes, what part about flat rate sales tax do you not understand

And most of the homeless people in them will be either drug addicts or mentally ill or both. Homeless people are a scourge on the working class families forced to live next to them.

I don't even disagree with you that 'Murica should look after its poor, it's just that homeless camps aren't a good example of who the poor are. A better example would be Amazon's CamperForce.

Monarchist governments are usually capitalist as well. Expect with a focus on enriching the nobility rather than a merchant class.

Yes. And they fixed that in spite of capitalism.

No, I would say that is something.

Suicide isn't any more common in Japan than Western Europe. That's the second meme you fell for.

>Grand conspiracy.
It's not some grand conspiracy. It's simple oppression of the workforce.

>everything bad is capitalist, i win
fuck off

>Deng's capitalist reforms
dont mistake a marxist employing capitalism as a capitalism.

A communist, usually, advocates socialism. Socialism is not communism however, it is the relation of production after capitalism. It is the stage that must be done after capitalism, and so communists, wanting to progress to communism, will advocate socialism. He is not advocating capitalism as some permanent solution any more than communists are advocating socialism as a permanent solution. Hes simply trying to employ capitalism to develop the productive forces more prior to a transition to socialism. This in line with marx who says each relation of production must fully develop the productive forces that can be developed.

Lenin showed you do not need to do this naturally, and skipped an entire relation of production by making a sort of virtual form of it with the NEP. This worked but unstably. The USSR was still highly successful and it was, as stalin predicted, the beurocrats that would ruin it. It did not collapse, it simply suffered from the fact that reversion was possible as capitalism did not fully develop.
China, which is ran by communists (people attempting to obtain communism), is trying to employ a more robust form of state capitalism. Something that is more complete and comprehensive than previous attempts at controlling capitalism under communist regimes, in the hopes of fully developing with it and making socialism form automatically as it naturally would if nobody was meddling with anything at all.

marxists dont say any relation of production is 'bad'. Absolute cosmic authorities that just make some things good and other things bad are not part of materialist thought. Even slavery was an improvement, even for the slaves, over what came before the slave system. A communist does not dislike capitalism any more than they like socialism. All are transitional stages that must be done and have their own advantages. A time and a place for everything.

The part where it has nothing to do with your arguments against income tax.

It's declined somewhat, but it does still happen far more than it should. Japan is not a healthy country.

I use S.F. because it's the biggest symptom of how our economy works. When you have people making millions stepping over homeless human shit to get their $12 Lattes, you know there's a problem. It's like a dystopia. I know it's drugs, but there's really something wrong about the way things are working.

>Waaaaah they dont count because imperialism!
>imperialism
>Australia
Nani the fuck
Also I love how you still havent given a single example of a commie country that isnt a third world shithole with massive policing and starving people. Come on, name just one

>It's declined somewhat, but it does still happen far more than it should
Which would mean Western Europe isn't healthy.

Not everything bad is capitalist, but everything capitalism is bad.

>the beurocrats that would ruin it
It wasn't the mass starvation or brutal oppression or anything

And I agree with you. Why am I not allowed to be mad about it? Why aren't you more mad about it? A government with a tax system that fucks over the little man more than richfags is not something to be mad about?

>everything capitalism is bad
Why?

>Japan is not a healthy country
>says the lazy commie who wants handouts
toppest lel
Japan is an extreme example of capitalism because their culture is capitalism codified, and yet not only are they in incredibly resilient and successful nation, there isn't a single counterpart culture that uses communism nor are there any rich commie countries. I wonder why

Australia, as a essentially british part of the british empire, has benefited from imperialism.

>Also I love how you still havent given a single example of a commie country that isnt a third world shithole with massive policing and starving people
Because I don't need to. Pretty much every communist country is better off than it was before communism.

Because it's a inherently exploitative system that only benefits the rich.

To a certain extent, yes. Not as bad as Japan or America, but still bad.

>Pretty much every communist country is better off than it was before communism
That's like saying you're better off with stomach cancer than brain cancer

State department propaganda, complete fictions.
The USSR ended the cyclical famins that plagued the region for centuries.
It was starvation under the tzar that brought the bolsheviks into power, and they eventually ensured it could no longer happen.

The only people who feel they were more oppressed under the ussr than they were before or after it deserve far worse fates than what happened to them under it. A shame, stalins one flaw was imprisoning too many people he should have shot.

>sidesteps the question
>Thinking NK is better than it was 100 years ago
m8, NK is a necrocracy. And if you question it, you get shot and dumped into a ditch, and nobody is allowed to even mourn you
Yeah, I'm sure things have improved from 100 years ago

>it's a inherently exploitative system that only benefits the rich
The poor benefit greatly due to not STARVING to death and even have access to luxuries no communist nation could even dream of

Oh you're a psychopath, that explains everything

KIRRA QUINN

>Capitalism has starved more people than communism ever did
You can't just reply with "BUT CAPPIE DID IT WORSE" every time and expect me to take you seriously
We are talking right now BECAUSE of Capitalism

No, it's more like saying you are better off with a broken leg than no head.

North Korea was a japanese colony in the process of being cleansed about a hundred years ago. Even though it is actually one of the more extreme examples of communism failing, even North Korea is no exception.

>starvation meme.
Capitalism has starved more people than communism ever did.

Nigga nobody drinks $12 lattes during the course of a regular day, that was a marketing stunt by Bluebottle.

SF and the bay area are fucked for a number of reasons, but the main one is that they create positive global value and negative local externalities. It's a dystopia that also happens to run a decent chunk of information services and logistics for the entire world.

No, we are talking right now because of the hard work of smart people. Science has only ever suffered under capitalism. Exploited at best, blocked at worst.