This is the Yamaha YM2612, found in the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive. Not all models, but this is the intended and most optimized for sound chip. It is the ultimate in video game sound, the final sound chip before Nintendo decided that we don't need, beep, boops, twangs, or even any sort of bass or percussion - before Nintendo decided that the next step in video game music was making everything sound like it was coming from a tin can.
The fact of the matter is, the Genesis just had better music compared to the SNES. Every composition for the SNES uses low quality samples that are over compressed to fit on to a cartridge to the point where they are barely legible and far less clear than synthesized notes and instruments.
I hate people that pretend like Genesis had better sound. For every 1 example of good music from a Genesis. There's like 50 other fucking good SNES songs. Fucking 30 year old boomer videogame hipster nigger faggot.
Connor Morris
I guess it's nice for a console.
Jordan Howard
The SNES has good compositions, but poor execution making basically everything sound the same and sound very, very dull.
I think you're smoking crack. Did you never play any of the megaman X games?
Bentley Reed
Holy shit The same guys who made the megadrive chip >Fukase plays Sonic 3
Leo Reyes
The sad thing is they would have sounded a lot better on the Genesis. Thankfully someone is using a superb soundtrack adaptation and recreating the games for the Genesis with a lot of impressive progress so far.
The SNES really held it back as if the slowdown wasn't enough evidence, the music too was awful on the SNES. Even then, games like Panorama Cotton, Battle Maniacs, Thunder Force (this one especially) and Midnight Resistance far out class Mega Man X on the SNES. youtu.be/9CzkswHHxQI?t=1340
Logan Wood
the snes could sample pretty much any instrument. the genesis could only make do with synthesized stuff. it was great for electronic OST like streets of rage, but any attempt at something grand/orchestral fell flat.
Jack Davis
This thread is full on delusion. The 90s have long since passed no amount of screeching will change the outcome Sega was inferior in every regard so back to the cuckshed with you
Nathan Diaz
>the snes could sample pretty much any instrument very poorly.
What are you gonna do? Post the cringe opera scene from FF6?
Daniel Bailey
Sounds like someone's stepping on a cat. Sounds like someone's stepping on a lot of cats.
Elijah Watson
Both sound chips are fine but limited heavily by the developers and rom cost in most games. The snes sound chip is limited by the cartridge space, in many cases having ALL the instruments and songs shoved into a single 64KB program, instead of having a unique set of instruments per song. The genesis, well, the picture related show all the settings you have for ONE CHANNEL. And you could go even more complex by fucking with the operators per frame. So when you got good developers, snes will sound pretty darn clean and "organic", while genesis will deliver some pretty neat long "morphing" instruments.
But when you don't have good developers or a tiny ROM, snes sounds like music inside a washing machine, while genesis sounds like an angle grinder cutting this washing machine.
Also you need to be careful to not get the sample playing fucked by the DMA on the genesis, and many, many,many, many people didn't.
>But when you don't have good developers Why is this a revelation or a point to begin with? When you don't have good developers you get bad content. No shit?
If you have people that aren't good at what they're doing they aren't going to do well with it. A cat can't play guitar. Bad composers can't compose. Big fucking surprise.
Austin Nguyen
Genesis's sound chip sounded like an actual instrument while SNES chip sounded like a cheap MIDI keyboard from K-Mart
Isaiah Cruz
*fart noises and twangs* Ahh such exquisite musique
>Genesis's sound chip sounded like an actual instrument Yeah, a keyboard from the early 80s That has long since been replaced by more sophisticated samplers/romplers.
It's amazing how it's still yet to be surpassed. No wonder fans of the system spend so much time making sure the sound is perfect while the SNES? Nobody really even thinks about it, they just know it sounds bad. In fact, the few sound projects just flat out replace the music in the games because it's so clear the default is awful and poor quality.
Eli White
SID is shit compared to the SNES and Genesis soundchips.
Kevin Lopez
Actually, people keep struggling with the sega genesis audio because it is an odd beast that not even sega themselves could extract the best audio of. The snes audio in comparison is pretty straightfoward and solved on the first revision.
Not really. On Genesis 1 they just clip the audio to 22Khz to remove the high frequency noise, Genesis 2 they tried some fancy adaptive filter that sounds like shit, and Genesis 3 is a bit of both but still suck. They never got to do a "perfect filter".
Lincoln Brown
>They never got to do a "perfect filter". And this has nothing to do with the quality of the sound, the compositions, or the superiority of the hardware.
Chase Ross
that chip has such a rich history for being a fart porn actor
Justin Cooper
>newer technology = better No shit retard but the c64 still has it's own sound signature that can't be emulated accurately even today.
Sega hipsters never got over losing the console war, huh.
Jose Robinson
Yes, but its part of why people are still trying to "perfect" the genesis audio, while snes is already done. There's nothing to do with people being so much of fanboys of the audio that they want it better or something.
Carter Ramirez
>can't be emulated accurately woah there partner let's not get too crazy
James Gomez
It's pretty great to be honest, but the SNES has it outnumbered
Liam Hernandez
This is what happens when you give a retard a YM2612 chip.
Aaron Peterson
>not a single mention of Tim Follin in this thread Weak.
Not really. With only 64KB of memory, you can't do the longass "morphing" instruments you got on the genesis without having it sound muffled as fuck. This is why the genesis is better at doing guitar sounds than the snes for example. But on the other hand, there are many, many, many sounds the snes can do the genesis just can't. I imagine that using both on the same music would be fucking awesome.
Ryan Morris
Holy shit, this was on the fucking pc engine? How does it sound so good?
It is, the sound chip has a lot of nuances in tandem with the console itself.
Just not bass. Or any effects beyond reverb. Oh wait the reverb is just the compression, nevermind. Hey at least it can play back sample based audio which scales with sample quality which scales with file size on a medium limited by capacity.
Probably wasn't a good idea.
Leo Sullivan
Yeah yeah yeah. And the Saturn was superior to the Playstation. that doesn't change the fact that the SNES and the Playstation were better consoles than the Genesis and the Saturn
James Thompson
The SNES was inferior to the Genesis in every way. From library, to specifications. The SNES is basically an overclocked NES. It's an 8-bit console masquerading as 16-bit one.
Jayden Phillips
The legendary fart sound chip.
Every sample sounds worst on genesis that the snes counterpart.
What kind of drug you have to take to develop such shit taste
Nolan Hall
>The Genesis has both great compositions and great execution. >Yuzo Koshiro >I rest my case /thread
Jace Morales
>bits Never study the N64 hardware, it will absolutely fucking destroy your brain.
Also the dual video chip setup of the snes destroy the genesis in everything but resolution and available sprite sizes.
Brandon Moore
That was the TurboGrafx, dumbass
Jose Garcia
Ristar is pretty sick
Christopher Bennett
How does it match up to any decent Intel chip or AMD Ryzen? That's right. It doesn't.
That's why Nintendo doesn't use this little piece of shit.
Those chips do a lot more than the shitty DAC on your PC that basically gets the audio emulated by some shitty chink driver running in your CPU.
Tyler Fisher
I bet people who are fond of the Genesis sound chip also like chiptunes
Because they both sound like shit
Eli Sanchez
Sega failed at every generation against its competitors, but I dunno what makes sega fans seethe so much about the Genesis. I mean, I like Sega consoles very much (especially the Saturn), but you'd have to be pretty delusional or just contrarian for refusing to admit they got outdone by nintendo three times and by sony after that.
Justin Morris
Audiophiles are the worst.
Nathan Rodriguez
It's just a new trend. Pretending you hear something that isn't there in the Genesis sound AND that it was superior to the snes.
Sebastian Thomas
>the final sound chip before Nintendo decided that we don't need, beep, boops, twangs, or even any sort of bass or percussion
Probably bait, but that is absolute retardation to believe that the snes sound chip doesn’t have great bass or percussion
Jordan Rodriguez
Frequency modulation != Digital sound processing. >Frequency modulation != Digital sound processing. Frequency modulation != Digital sound processing. >Frequency modulation != Digital sound processing.
