>The Trello roadmap is not fulfilling the goal we set when it was introduced. >The goal with the Trello roadmap is to provide visibility into the development cycle for the store’s more player-centric feature set. >While it’s accomplished that to some degree, we’ve missed the mark accurately displaying the timelines for feature delivery. >We regularly delay feature releases due to shifting priorities and the need for further iteration. >We’re always focusing on improving, and we believe the Trello can be improved as well.
>What’s changing? >We’re removing the time of delivery from the board. >We’ll be focusing on what’s actively in development and providing more granular updates on individually listed features. Looking at the revamped board you’ll be able to quickly assess: >What’s been recently released >What’s up next for the Epic Games store and see status updates >What’s in the plan for future development
>How regularly will you update Trello? >You can expect updates to Trello every 2 weeks. We’ll let ya know on social whenever we’ve updated the Trello board so you can keep up to date and informed. >In addition to the regular Trello refresh, we’re going to deliver detailed feature updates when we have larger drops (e.g. Cloud Saves, new Product pages, etc...). >We’ll include both the details on the new features hitting the store and a quick dev deep dive for additional insight. >You can see the first of these with our recently posted August feature update.
Ar least he's honest about it unlike some other companies who just stay silent archive.is/3liX9
and so it begins. give it another few months and everyone will forget about the proposed features and nothing further will ever be implemented. they have zero interest in consumer friendliness, what a shame. all that fortnite money that could be used to hire visionary talent and start an arms of consumer benefits and price wars and its all gone to nothing but rhetoric and lies.
Jonathan Brown
Only a fucking retard or shill would think Epic made the EGS to give the consumer a better experience all round
Lincoln Miller
They could've everything implemented already had they contracted a web developer, gave them a million and three months time. The slow pace of it makes me wonder if they really have only one intern working on it while the rest tries to figure out what game to pouch next.
James Smith
Wait they still don't have a cart? The shady website I bought my chinese flashrom silicon from had a fucking cart. How do you make video games and not know how to implement these things?
At this point I'm pretty sure 90% of the company just works on Fortnite, need those weekly updates bro
Lincoln Watson
>archived page from epic that has no ads That's some dedication to autism
Alexander Campbell
>wanting fortune cookies on your PC wew
Jaxson Brown
they either don't care or just straight up aren't getting any money for development
Grayson Robinson
How to spot a seething chink on damage control? Just look at the: >Ar least he's honest about it unlike some other companies who just stay silent >unlike some other companies who just stay silent Lmao, this dog eating cunt has that one company living RENT FREE in his head inb4: this subhuman will sperg out using greentext and wojak combo, or it'll be the same shit he's been spamming for months
Samuel Wilson
>not siding with the right side of history fucking steamcels
Roadmaps are marketer placebo to make you think developers are "working" on it. The instant they start missing the self-imposed deadlines it becomes obvious they aren't working and deserve ridicule, which is why companies drop soft dates on their roadmaps after they start missing milestones and eventually just delete the roadmap altogether.
Isaiah Clark
>honest >make promises and timelines >cannot do it > has billions leveraging his position buying shit games, and scamming kiddies >cannot hire a team to create a webstore
Michael Carter
>borderlands 3 is going to launch on a store that doesn't have achievements Randy gotta be livid
Caleb Collins
>Randy gotta be livid Randy is right up there with Tim on being fucking obnoxious
Wyatt Brown
I'm sure he'll calm down once he's given more fat stacks and CP
Jackson Kelly
Sure, publicly he's on Tim's side. He has to be at this point.
Oliver Hernandez
>Updates every two weeks Tick tock steamdrones tick tock, Tim turned on the Fortnite turbo mode :)
Randy is so much of a idiot he most likely genuinely believes everything Tim says it right
Adrian Murphy
the epic game store is an analogy for big goverment, or more closely congress. Instead of working for the voters(consumers) they spend their time working for special interest and lobbies.(publisher and devs). They care more about these groups than the voter, yet they always say they work for the voter, trying to get the best thing for the voter.Eventually they don't do shit for the voter, and instead wish to waste time creating empty declarations( timelines) against something, instead of discussing actually legislation(feature), and debating how to best implement them, and voting to implement said feature. In order to make sure the sheep voter doesn't realize they work for special interest groups. they give votes a free win( free game), either via a law that they should implenet ,but didn't till election year, or they try to get companies to get more jobs in the area, to make themselves look good.
Isaiah Brown
I personally think he's just one step removed from reality he can still tell more or less what's happening but ignores it until it's apparent to everyone when the epic store is widely ridiculed for having less features than console versions and maybe the fucking pirates then he will speak out
Cooper Howard
>the store will be different when the game launches That is fucking hilarious
Connor Cook
>We'll have a shopping cart in six months! >The shopping cart has been delayed until next year. >We're just not going to give you an ETA anymore, you ungrateful gamer nazi pigs.
Trello and other agile development boards are an internal scheduling tool, not a customer promise. Anybody who believed this thing even for a second should be euthanized. If one intern working on this believed it himself, he should be euthanized, too.
>how does someone like that become a millionaire >Randy's such a piece of garbage human being Pretty much because of that. If you don't give a shit about people around you you can just exploit them to the bone, And as long as nobody tries to screw you over, you'll come out ahead in the end.
Nolan Bailey
This makes sense actually. He probably gets his goyslaves to go shopping for him, so he's never seen a cart.
>"if i were a betting man" You are a betting man Pitchford, too bad they never work out for you
Aiden Wilson
Why do you need a shopping cart? You can just buy a single game at a time. Its a pointless bloat '''feature''' that isn't needed and just another thing steam doesn't need.
John Perry
Gearbox was some no name AA studio staring down bankruptcy before they struck gold with Borderlands, everything else they've ever developed has been mediocre at best and nuclear waste at worst.
Alexander Rivera
I can't filter your shit fast enough
Juan Jackson
Based.
Jason Young
>Its a pointless bloat '''feature''' that isn't needed and just another thing steam doesn't need. so all online stores don't need shopping carts then, you just buy shit one at a time
Camden Cook
>t. seething poorfag chink
Isaiah Walker
Upvoted
Daniel Richardson
Say this to someone that likes brothers in arms and they are liable to stab you. Shit one of my friends personally hated Randy because they haven't made one In years.
Joseph Foster
Yes, basically. Its not a required feature, is it really worth the extra bloat just to save you a few clicks?
Thomas Brooks
So publisher can milk me with 1000 bonus dlcs, I NEED THAT SHOPPING CART
>You can set up a shop with a cart, and even a logistics to ship packages on your own site in a month. >chinks do this all the time, anyone can set up store fronts with reviews, and carts. >epic is making billion off kiddie skins, cannot do basic bitch shit in a year.
Henry Cox
It's a typical mutt
Christopher Scott
I actually don't get it, my highschool CS class had us do shit like design websites with basic features like that, how can a giant multimillion dollar company launch with this?
Angel Sullivan
Man I really hope cartposting has the same sort of longevity as playstationhasnogames posting.
Carson Lee
But thats what these threads are right? Pretty much no one would defend a store that is worse in every way, so people are just bating retards. No one except autists would not want a shopping cart.
Aiden Roberts
they are too much of kikes, they could ran that shit in a month if they where willing to pay fee for using 3rd party system before they developed their own internal system.Instead they give a roadmap, and implement fuck all. Clearly they are cheap ass kikes.
Mason Williams
well they spend all their money on getting exclusive deals
Bentley Cook
>janny deleted that one user's post Retarded janny thinking he's the only one who has some.
>how can a giant multimillion dollar company launch with this? their catch phrase "88/12" is a major hint to their mindset behind the store
James Brown
I can't imagine it being them being cheapskates, it would cost little to nothing to develop ths feature, fuck, they could probably just grab the code from some example website for free. this has to be malice, they must enjoy being pieces of shit , shouldn't be a surprise since sweeny has been making sure to take every move towards infamity
Easton Mitchell
>how can a giant multimillion dollar company launch with this? by not having a care in the world about service or functionality because their entire ideology is giving you no choice at all.
tell me one reason how shopping cart harms your online store
Nolan Lopez
The lack of such a simple, basic feature of an online store isn't "just a shopping cart". It reveals a complete lack of respect & attention for their product. If they are this blase about a part of the site that would generate income, how blase are they about other things that simply cost money, like security and bandwidth?
Daniel Anderson
Simple. They probably looked at how many people buy games back to back and concluded that the 0.1% that do isn't a high priority for a feature implementation.
>muh dlc how is it even relevant >shopping cart enables them do you get enabled to fill shopping carts or baskets every time you use them for groceries
Sebastian Evans
>476154693 >have no argument >completely change the topic Like a clockwork.
Jeremiah Lopez
>Only 1% of users buy multiple games at once >Only 1% uses Linux >Only 1% uses the overlay >Only 1% shares screenshots >Only 1% edits their user profile >Only 1% cares about China >Only 1% buy h-games >Only 1% uses the wishlist >Only 1% cares about trading cards >......... >Wow, why are only 5% of PC gamers using our store?!
we're talking about a feature that they could create and implement in under a day with just 1 or a couple of employees working on it, considering how much bad press they got over it I'd argue it would be really worth it but as we already know, epic really doesn't give a damn when it comes to its reputation
>add to cart but I can't do that, there is no cart
Blake Cook
have fun buying multiple mini dlcs without a shopping cart sub 80iq dumbo I listen to trump too but I don't give a fuck sure he is my president but I own my body
Jordan Morgan
BRO DON'T POST THE C WORD good trade indeed
Sebastian Lewis
Fucking EGS. Can't wait for that lootbox and microtransactions ban to hurt Fortnite. So what that lootboxes in that game are now transparent? They still get tons of money from kids via microtransactions. Take away that and they'll have to stop doing the whole 18% share.
Brody Hall
Can someone who actually knows what the fuck they're talking about explain to me why the Unreal Marketplace has had a Shopping Cart since 2014, but the Games Store doesn't?
What would be so radically different between the two for the feature to be absent?
Elijah Green
kgo
Jayden Harris
>have fun buying multiple mini dlcs without a shopping cart sub 80iq dumbo what is even your argument what the fuck were you trying to prove with that pic
Cameron Taylor
>Fortnite >lootboxes Kys and buy more TF2 and Dota 2 hats steam drone
Levi Parker
DA ROLL
Parker Long
>Getting btfo >I don't understand you Shopping carts are publishers wet dream, it's easier for them to sell mini dlcs in mass with a shopping cart. Sub 80iq subhuman.
Ayden Cruz
"games are like cars"
Daniel King
I don't even play these two epicdrone.
Mason Morris
>China doesn't have access to a Chinese companies data. lmao.
Liam Wright
Eh, wouldn't mind some slutty succubus.
Levi Taylor
n
Aaron Morris
Honestly I think at this point they realise they'd just get more ridicule than anything when they add it.
Nolan Barnes
YAMERO
Carson Allen
Score a lolibus
Kayden Edwards
Lol Their own games are exclusive to steam. Their biggest source of revenue is from steam. The EGS store is likely potato code holding up thanks to duct tape, which is why they cant update it because even minor changes would just wreck everything
Josiah Stewart
>Only 1% uses Linux I'm glad you realized that some features are a waste of time. Porting to Linux definitely costs you more than you gain in sales.
Kevin Moore
No one ever said that china does not have access to steam. Friendly reminder that 60% of steam accounts are from China and there is no way they would allow steam to operate in grey zone withouth acces to their data. Steam china proves that valve is in fact very close to china gov
Christian Hernandez
NO STOP THIS GWEILO NOT MY SOCIAR CREDIT SCORE
Christian Martinez
>chievos Of all the things to rile Epic Store about and you choose one of the dumbest ones
Xavier Garcia
go and look at BL2 you retarded shill
Angel Perez
what the fuck are you fucking trying to prove with your completely retarded argument >hurr durr shopping carts provide excuse for publishers to make dlc because it makes buying dlc easier >this is why shopping cart harm online store because it supports publishers >never mind the fact that epic is supposed to be publisher friendly this is the most fucking stupid argument which completely destroys your original point
Hudson Harris
The BL games are entirely abouut bragging to other players about stupid shit like aerial shots and 360-noscopes and other dumb shit. The replay value came entirely from achievements for schoolkiddies and completionfags. To boredomlands, they have immense replay value
Juan Torres
I too care about profit only
Eli Long
B3 won't have that many dlcs due to epic cut and lack of shopping cart. How is that not customer friendly again?
Josiah Baker
I wish there would be an uproar about Epic's lack of features when BL3 releases and people finally realize they had to pay 60 bucks for a truly inferior platform, but imo only die-hard brainless fans would want to purchase the game on Epic to play it asap
Benjamin Bell
I personally couldn't give a shit, but cheevos are a big deal for the mostly casual playerbase of games like Borderlands
wtf are you on about, the replayability comes from the random loot and grinding for said loot
Michael Perry
Anything brown would be nice.
Hudson Evans
He's right, shopping cart at least for me is useless. Only collectors buy games in bulk and I'm not one of them
Jacob Russell
>B3 won't have that many dlcs due to epic cut and lack of shopping cart. >B3 are you fucking retarded do you literally believe that just because of epic cut and no shopping cart, BL3 won't add much dlc this time this is like the most fucking retarded reasoning are you so fucking braindead that you always buy all the dlc in a game and say "shopping cart made me do it" are you that fucking retarded
Depends on what you understand by DLCs. If you include skins and shit like that keep in mind that the publisher is 2K games which is owned by Take2. It's going to have a ton of microtransactions. Might not go through epic's store system, might all go through's Gearbox's own BL3 DLC store, we'll see.
Connor Sullivan
I'm not one of them so it doesn't need a shopping cart. Good argument.
Gavin Hall
MR CHAN GET DOWN
Adrian Kelly
>yfw Epic will never have even half of the things in this screenshot
>reskinned guns with lights in them are worth replaying over and over user, have you even played the game? the loot becomes irrelevant in reruns, simply because scaling is retarded and slag will kill fucking everything, so there's no point or reason
Austin Foster
>It costs EGS pennies on the dollar to have some codemonkey implement that feature and many more >Cant do it Explain this shit
Samuel Richardson
Well yeah, if I'm not using something I don't need it. I don't care about other because why would I?
Joshua Garcia
>people should cater to me only
Parker Robinson
>Steam >Feature is there if you want to use it >EGS >............... Fuck off
Samuel Thomas
In a similar vein, why should we care about you or your shitty store when it doesnt have what we want, Xiao?
Eli Hughes
rude
Jordan Stewart
It never ceases to amaze me how Tim Swiney is willing to burn hundreds of millions buying exclusives and giving away bribe games, yet refuses to spend a few thousand bucks to make it so that his store isn't actual shit.
>no one fucking cares about the biggest spenders And then you wonder why no games on Epic sell Any 1 million landmarks yet?
Sebastian Lee
give me some brown skinned cutie or a long haired blonde
Lincoln Price
What the fuck am I even reading? SO much of nonsense only chinko can come up with. >game's one steam even if it's using steamworks means it's forever locked behind it >doesn't mention games using steamworks and the same games having GOG releases
Alexander Rivera
rollerino
Andrew Wright
>>g-guise, I'm totally not Tim, I mean it! Top lel
While I get that this ticks a lot of checkboxes for a lot of people, can I still have a wholesome loving relationship with a female knight as we travel together as an adventurer couple?
>epicfag got so buttblasted he made another thread to samefag in
Caleb Anderson
t-they're all selling w-well...
totally no r-reason why no actual sales data on epic games has been revealed
Angel Price
Link the thread so I can laugh at him without needing to sift through fifty cyberpunk, smash brothers and politics threads, please.
Bentley Nelson
>EGS literally locks you out if you buy 3 games in quick succession
Jackson Ward
I'm a little confused, what is this twitter nobody trying to imply? cause what I got out of it is >if a game is on steam it uses steam drm and therefore cant be on other platforms he mentions gog in the same thread,which proves the claim wrong, am I just getting it wrong or is this shill really that retarded?
Connor Gutierrez
Just as god intended.
Ryan Davis
DO NOT CONSUME PRODUCT GREAT READER VERY UPSET YOU HAVE FUN NOT WORK IT NOT OK MY COMRADE
Isaac Sullivan
he just sounds mentally ill
Lincoln Gonzalez
I cant decode your madness, but its looks like you replied to yourself to make the people who critise you look incompetent.
I think he is mocking the Chinese with bad English
Jeremiah Wright
>maldraw Fuck off you failed artist, not even sourced
Aiden Edwards
I highly suspect that they hired cheap developers and as a result, their codebase is a mess. When your codebase is a mess, developing features becomes very time consuming and painful over time.
Jaxson Bell
>Steam users are like cattle, we personall track them down, cut them up and make burgers out of them >Gabe Newell super secret telephone message, problably
Jose King
Source bitch.
Asher Hall
TRANSPARENCY BAD CHINESE STATE CAPITALISM GOOD
MAKE SURE TO TAPE YOUR WEBCAMS OR YOU'LL LOSE SOCIAL CREDIT FOR POSTING HERE
nah I think the reason is that probably a bunch of retards sat around a board room table who have spent thousands on retarded product research and markets have come up with a buzzwordy idea that losing the shopping cars will increase spending by 4 percent due to consumer psychology. There i no way that they CANT do it, they are choosing not to
Zachary Sanchez
You think its not the corparist bullshit haha, the will kill us all
Carson Edwards
while I agree the choose not to, I think they did it so they are still talked about. Otherwise what could you even say about epic store? Its just one of the dozen of storefront
Some more >"Single-player is great, but we also have to recognize that you have friends and want to have that connected as well," Newell added. "It's about giving up on single-player at all, we actually think that there are a bunch of features and capabilities that we need to add into our games to recognize the socially-connected gamer. Every gamer is instant messaging, every gamer has a Facebook account. If you pretend this doesn't exist you're ignoring the problems you ought to be taking on, so it's 'single-player plus,' not 'no more single-player.'"
Lucas Gutierrez
You are the one who talked about defeat. For that there must be some conflict/war.
Cameron Perez
>Otherwise what could you even say about epic store?
It's a new market leader
Jose Thomas
youtube.com/watch?v=DMgfPU9y3yo found it on youtube, can you pinpoint where exactly he say it? I dont want to listen to this for a hour
defeat doesnt imply war, but conflict yes. When 2 people talk one can become defeated in the discussion yet, they didnt send infantry against each other
Jaxson Myers
have we started the fire
Alexander Martin
>epicfag thinks he's winning kek
Easton Ramirez
Not that user but valve abandoned single player games like 10 years ago. You don't need to watch this to know it
Brody Martin
this really makes me wonder >passing several transactions instead of one will encourage the consumer to buy more how do you end up at that conclusion?
Aaron Wright
Do you think war is only when someone sends infantry? Any conflict can be seen as a war. Heck if I have some personal goals in the gym, reaching them could be considered my personal war. >He thinks im an epic fag kek You Yea Forumsirgins are autistic as shit lmao.
Sebastian Wood
I don't understand how a giant company like epic can't manage to implement basic shit like a shopping cart.
Fucks sake that's tutorial level coding stuff. An intern could probably do it in a day.
Easton Collins
>Delusional 14 year old thinks he's winning an online argument with everyone telling him how wrong his infantile views are
you dont see how much you spend in one big batch, making you think you end up spending less. You buy 3 games at once and you spend 50 euro, or you buy a game for 10 euro then 2 other for 20. Seeing smaller numbers convince you you didnt spent as much. Its why microtransactions are little money instead getting all of it in a big bulk
Nicholas Harris
>or you buy a game for 10 euro then 2 other for 20. And then your epic account gets locked for fraud, because you bought too many games.
>that absolutely retarded post >thinking major sales dont happen when all DLC are bundled and sold for cheaper >chink grammar starts breaking down Your circuits are overheating, robot. Maybe you should take a break
Wyatt Myers
oh, I guess that when you put it like that it makes more sense, personally I feel more discouraged when I make several transactions in a small period of time
Kayden Rivera
I'm not a chink, I just fucking suck at english and couldnt articulate what I wanted properly and most likely butchered it in the progress. What I wanted to say that if you break down buying stuff people might not notice how much they actually spend
It is simple. We have different semantics of what constitutes war. But still for there to have been defeat there must have been something to lose right? What was that.
Brayden Parker
>Epic is fixing this for all gamers Epic ain't fixing shit. For the consumer the pric of the game is the same on Steam and on Epic
And no I don't give a shit about the devs and their cut. That's the dev's problem.
Christian Scott
I hope the Epic Store tries and fails at another sale like the 10% discount blunder from a while ago, mostly to see how Randy copes
Jason Jenkins
>Steam was killing PC gaming >PC gaming is the biggest it's ever been, and has seen massive growth since Epic fucked off to consoles in 2008
>implying physical stores didnt asked for that 30% too steam was not killing the industry but sadly you gonna reply in an idiotic manner, spewing the same old tired bullshit that always get thrown around here
Carter Jackson
>476159005 >this chinko again Good job jannies and mods!
Caleb Green
>mostly to see how Randy copes But do you really want another murdered prostitute?
Samuel Richardson
I don't get the hate for EGS. Why do people feel entitled to get all their games on Steam?
I meant defeat because you generalised everyone who didnt agree with glorious epic store without cart as an amerifat, stereotyping everyone around here as a simpleton american, while 80% of us never even set foot there. I said you to admit defeat because the kind of talk that started this whole debate was such an ennourmus bait or stupid comment that noone with more than 10 braincell could agree with it. Try to decode this weird rant of mine
>if you break down buying stuff people might not notice how much they actually spend It seems like a nice idea on the surface, but if you overdo it, you will chase away future potential customers because they wont buy everything one at a time Paradox is a good example of what I'm talking about. Absolutely nobody can get into crusader kinds 2 because all DLC put together costs several times more than the main game itself. And if you put too much DLC, you risk fracturing the fanbase following the game, as not everybody will buy everything, so they will all have different verisons, different amounts of content in their games Not to mention a bulk of DLC sales happen when they get sold with the game as a 'definitive edition', 'goty version' or some other such shit, so individual purchasing becomes moot in those cases
Jason James
Just like 30% digital distribution replaced 60% physical copies now 12% will replace 30%. It's the future, and each time world evolves something is mad about it
Camden Rogers
>steam is killing the industry by charging the exact same service charge that Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony charge Excuse me?
its not entitlement, its ease of access. If it were not steam, something else is okay too as long as its you dont have to check all the hoops for starting a game. Its just steam was the first so most people used that for the longest.
>listening to the ramblings of an insane man just because he worked at Valve >literally butthurt because they made a lot of money >Epic makes even more >but it's ok because it hurts Steam >it doesn't and they don't even acknowledge them
>now 12% will replace 30% Fucking kek, Epic only does it because of Fortnite money and black market China money, the rest of the industry can't match that. The Epic Store can make $0 a year and still be considered a massive success because it doesn't exist to make money, it exists to kill Steam and GOG and other stores.
Robert Clark
lol all epic games are coming to steam anyway, epictard
Nicholas Anderson
>now 12% will replace 30% No, I think 42% is the number you're looking for, tranny.
Blake Murphy
No, it exsist to create multistore front future with GoG galaxy 2.0 as launcher for all smaller launchers. Soon everyone will have their own shop linked to GoG
Joshua Martinez
Nobody except Itch.io charged less then 30%. Discord tried to pull the same stunt as Epic but they also had a 30% cut as well before Epic stuck their dicks in the socket and Discord overeacted to it and lowered it to unsustainable amounts and weren't bringing in enough money to compete.
Carter Gutierrez
Maybe thats why epic doesnt have too much game on their store, so this system work as it should. Also I dont even know if epic even allow DLC-s in their store, that sounds like you need coding which they wont allow
>476159643 So, wojakposting with greentext when? It's the only defense you have left. After you'll post some screenshots of steam profiles, of course. You're too predictable.
>Epic has already won So how come I can't buy any of the games I'm interested in on Epic, if they have "won" the digital distribution war? Where are MGSV, Mordhau, Rising Storm 2, Steel Division 2, EDF 5, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Baba Is You, Ace Combat 7, Total War: Three Kingdoms, Total War: Warhammer 2, Vermintide 2 and XCOM 2? On Steam? Oh well, guess you haven't won anything after all.
Holy shit. Isn't this the guy that keeps shitposting in the Epic threads? The style of ESL shilling is pretty much the same.
Ethan Brooks
My future wife.
Joshua James
Nah, that guy admitted to just copying those twitter posts, pretending to be retarded to get a rise out of people.
Aiden Russell
These games are steam exclusives. Sadly, they will disappear with the death of steam but you can't save industry without sacrifaces.
Ian Parker
>476160745 >arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/zd9j5F4GQfTEE2UZMo_9RQ/ Yawn. You literally make me fall asleep. Changing the filename's not gonna help you hide your spam. Again, no (You) for you that you seek so much.
Adrian Williams
>These games are steam exclusives MGSV, EDF 5, Ace Combat 7 and Vermintide are all on consoles.
Isaiah Roberts
>NOO STOP POSTING IMAGES FROM Yea Forums
Please, just one (you). I need it
Ethan Hughes
>geldreich
God it never gets old. Jew names are always amazing.
>476161057 >IT'S NOT ME I WASN'T SPAMMING IT! I SWER BY THE NAME OF XI! >all those 1561192763191.jpg and 1556787984063m.jpg in the archives Yeah. My last fake (You) to you. Get fucked, you predictable mobileposter.
Camden Perez
YOU FUCKING STEAMNIGGERS AND CUMSKULLS RUINED THIS FUCKING BOARD FUCK STEAM THREADS FUCK CUMSKULLS FUCK THE MODS ON THIS SITE FUCK GOOKMOOT AND FUCK THAT MASCOT NAMED YOTSUBA FUCK Yea Forums AND 4CHANNEL FUCK NIGGERS FUCK KIKES FUCK SPICS FUCK AMERICANS AND FUCK THE USA AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST FUCK YOU OP FOR BRINGING MORE STEAM AUTISM INTO THIS COMMUNITY FUCK YOU STEAMNIGGERS FUCK STEAM AND FUCK THE STEAM LAUNCHER PLAYSTATION EGS AND XBOX IS BETTER THAN THIS FILTHY GARBAGE STALIN DID NOTHING WRONG HAIL STALIN AND HAIL LENIN NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS RESHETERA IS THE BETTER SITE REDDIT IS EVEN BETTER THAN THIS GARBAGE EPIC GAME STORE IS BEST PCEE PLATFORM FUCKING DIE OP
Well Epic has: Metro Exodus - Next best thing to STALKER WWZ - Better L4D Outer Worlds - Better New Vegas Satisfactory - Better Factorio Dauntless - Better MHW Outer Wilds - Dark Horse of the Year Control - Best looking game of the year Ancestors - Rain World + Spore = Most Ambitious game of all time Observation - Best Sci-fi Horror since SOMA Fortnite - Most popular game of all time next to Minecraft MW5 - Best mecha game Ooblets - Pokemon but even better Wattam - From the creator of Katamari Borderlands 3 - Potential GOTY All of David Cage's game Free games that are very good every week.
What does Steam have? Porn, shovelware, and weebshit? Keep on seething steamdrone.
Oh and I forgot. It also has last year's GOTY which is Tetris Effect.
Well drones? Can't say anything now eh?
Jace Gonzalez
You may have pretty much every game released in 2019 and shit ton of free games but you know what we have? Darq, 20$ one hour shitty platformer, cope chink
Ethan Parker
>set industry standard is killing the industry okay retard
David Perez
>476161479 the next level bait
Ryan Perez
Tetris Effect requires SteamVR.
Jaxson Rogers
a shopping cart store has shopping carts for their shopping carts, why can't epic?
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>Metro Exodus Trash. >WWZ Worse Vermintide. >Outer Worlds Isn't this the rick and morty in space game? >Control That game nobody can run? >Ancestors Haven't heard of it. Probably trash. >Observation >Horror memes >Fortnite HAHAHAHA you must be really desperate if you put this on the list. >MW5 Have you SEEN the state of Mechwarrior Online? I have, and it's not pretty. >Ooblets ooblets.com/2019/07/we-did-the-thing/ >Wattam Now you're just mashing your keyboard and seeing what comes out. How about some REAL games? >Borderlands 3 AHAHAHAHAHAHA >All of David Cage's game AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I feel sorry for you. My condolences.
Samuel Wood
SteamVR is a driver for steam and htc VR, what's weird here? Unreal engine games on steam require... unreal engine so what's the problem here anyway?
Josiah Johnson
I have nothing against Epic really, but how fucking hard can it be to implement a cart when every other storefront does it?
Is the Epic Games Launcher's codebase made of wet paper and string?
Jaxon Rogers
>bait: the post Do you honestly believe anything that you posted is actually true?Those games aren't even proper exclusives, they'll end up on steam in a few months. A few EGS games are coming to steam by the end of this year And you know what will happen to them? They will all get buried and lost amongst the bottom tier trash where they belong
Jaxson Foster
Yes, they are not proper exclusives because unlike valve epic does not hold games hostage forever behind steamworks
Jeremiah Torres
Thanks for the redpills tree bros fuck kikes and fuck jewben
But wait, epicshill. Isnt your narrative to get more exclusives as that's the only way to force customers to use Epic over steam? But suddenly Epic is the good guy for not being able to hold onto its own explusives properly?
Grayson Turner
imagine being a console fanboy without even a console to tout made me respond 3/10
It always amazes me how people try to convince themselves that businesses only want to make enough money to be sustainable, and nothing beyond that. That is the exact opposite of how capitalism/corporatism works. Most of Valve's 30% cut is pure profit.
Parker Wright
Yes, timed exclusives. No one here wants to force you to use epic forever if you want to play game x, this isn't steam. Epic games after short exclusivity can be sold everywhere because nothing bind them to one storefront
Angel Cruz
Metro Exodus - Timed exclusivity WWZ - Worse L4D Outer Worlds - Timed exclusivity Satisfactory - Worse Factorio Dauntless - Literally what? Outer Wilds - Timed exclusivity Control - Overhyped game for graphics whores Ancestors - Shitty ass Spore clone that nobody played Observation - Alien Isolation and PREY did it better Fortnite - Dying zoomer game MW5 - What? Ooblets - Numale Pokémon Wattam - What-am? Borderlands 3 - Not even a year-long timed exclusivity All of David Cage's game - Buncha point and click adventure games overhyped by numales? Yeah, that's something worth bragging about Free games that are very good every week - Games everybody already bought when they were on sale on Steam.
Meanwhile, Steam has: A shopping cart The Halo Master Chief Collection Linux support Reviews Actual consumer support Japanese devs like Bandai Namco Official Mod Support Gloirious tiddies A storefront secure enough that people don't try to log into your account without permission on a daily basis
Not true, it does not prevent selling game as subscriptions.
Adam Rodriguez
Valve does takes these fees too brainlet (some cents)
Hunter Wright
why not? What? are you a cuck for defending the degenerate thing?
Jordan Cook
Wake me up when Epic can send a dude to my house to collect my cash payment on a game.
Juan Cox
Back to your cave steam drone, Yea Forums always hated gayben, every step against them is a good step for gaming.
Logan Brooks
>epic has games Yeah, they pay great amounts of money to get the best games of the year exclusive to the store. Like this masterpiece right here Truly the force that will save gaming and smash the evil monopoly!
>Pirated my first game in 10 years because of based Timmy Control is a decent 6/10 that I might have bought when it was $10. Thanks again for the free game!
Brody Ross
Hah, a noname indie game. What the fuck is Sony even thinking?
Henry Rodriguez
Well overall no. I don't have a horse in this race. I don't use epic store I only use steam currently. But even then it is a weird thing to complain about when EGS doesn't have many games anyway.
Ryan Young
Epic made me realize just how fucking massive my backlog really is.
Like Jesus fuck how are you supposed to have time to fucking play all the games you like any more?
>Steam sells you 60$ game >Epic sells you 60$ game Its the exact same fucking thing >b but muh publishers! muh 30% I dont give a shit, i Have no brand loyalty to them and I buy whatever is decent or bang for my buck
Angel Long
In some regions, games cost significantly more on EGS than on Steam. Which is part of the reason why people get so up in arms about Epic exclusivity deals.
Yes, that's the whole point why stores are structured as they are. There are psychological tricks involved to get people to buy more shit and make impulse purchases. And yes, all the crazy microtransaction cosmetic shit and DLC probably wouldn't be there without a shopping cart because it would be too much of a hassle for consumers to buy everything on it own. Note that I'm not saying shopping carts are unnecessary and should be removed. They pretty much work as intended: getting more money out of fools who can't control themselves and handle money wisely.
James Ross
Ebin store sure as shit hasn't got one
Aaron King
I still don't get how the 30% cut is killing the industry. Isn't the PC industry bigger than ever now? Fuck isn't the mobile gaming industry absolutely massive and yet Apple/Google take a 30% cut, don't they?
Why is it always the 30% cut that's at fault. Fuck if anything indieshitters are to blame for other indie devs failing. There assload and I mean fucking ASS LOADS of indie games that come out every year because making games is now more accessible than it has ever been.
Angel Sanchez
whats trello
Gabriel Taylor
Except Borderlands 3 is definitely going to have a bunch of microtransactions
Hunter Lopez
gimmi brown
Jaxon Barnes
it's over for tim and his russian bots
Asher King
Its because in China they wipe their asses with their bare hands and underpay workers but here in America or Europe we use toilet paper and pay workers a semi decent living wage
Jaxson Clark
Last time i was trying to get in touch with steam support it took 3 weeks for a person not a bot to respond. They have lik 15 people on their whole support team, even epic is not that fucking bad
Sebastian Morgan
I don't know much about Borderlands, only every pirated the first. But I'm not gonna deny it will have them nor was it my point. However, the microtransactions will most likely be handled in-game, no? And they could implement a shopping cart on their own.
Matthew Russell
wow bro stop blaming the indie devs they're passionate people who just want to make good games. developers are the heart and soul of gaming
Brody Roberts
Valve ain't killing the industry, the corporations like EA are, and bigger corporations like Amazon and Google are moving in to milk another industry dry
Grayson Allen
It's killing indies who don't know how to market their games and think that every sale should always be 100% only for them. They all just seem to think that shitting out a game is guaranteed to make you rich. If the 30% were so disastrous, the market would've collapsed long before steam showed up.
Alexander Murphy
Industry expand regardless of taxes, just like the whole world does. That does not mean that taxes are not crippling the grow
Cameron Sanders
Fuckin embarrassment really, I actually agree with you Origin seems like the only store that has their shit togeather in this department >Years ago I bought CNC3 >My disk stopped working >Called up customer support >They said they would give me a free digital copy on origin if I sent them a photo of the disk and the serial number >Did it >They gave me the game, might as well since it is an old game and they don't care about CNC anymore >Based poo in loo was actually helpfull
Jordan Garcia
I don’t frequent the EGS. Do you seriously have to purchase dlc one at a time?
William Butler
Imagine actually buying games lmao at Epic Gay Store Shills and Steam cells
Origin support is almost amazon tier. That should be the industry standard, what makes me fucking mad is the fact that valve could be at their level but they are too lazy to fix their shit
Easton Gonzalez
...
Christopher Phillips
This is you user
Grayson Watson
>Variety is bad Jesus, just admit you are shilling man
Carter Garcia
Valve has always had shotgun approaches to their problems People are scamming and abusing the trading system in csgo and tf2? Lets make it so no one can trade anymore
Thomas Sullivan
Honestly, I think 95% of the people saying that a shopping cart is unnessecary are joking, because honestly I refuse to believe that there are people out there genuinely dumb enough to think a fucking shopping cart feature is unnessecary and that the lack of one supposedly makes each individual purchase more valuable.
Charles Thomas
I've bought plenty of games from EGS and not once have I thought to myself "I wish this site had a shopping cart".
Zachary Barnes
>I dont use feature so no one else does You sound exactly like Bethesdrone apologists
Jose Moore
I guess there are room temperature IQ people using Yea Forums
William Lopez
>i'm not a dev so why should i care about a cut So how it is, do we care about others or not?
Thomas Morgan
rollerino
Jeremiah Jones
Lol wrong reply user
Adam Ward
I have a 400 game backlog user. Do you think I give a shit about what Epic has?
Metro Exodus - I haven't even touched Witcher 3 yet, idc. WWZ - Dying Light is better Outer Worlds - Looks mundane. Satisfactory - Never heard of it or Factorio Dauntless - Doubt it is better then MHW. Outer Wilds - Promised kickstarter backers Steam keys. Lied and went epic exclusive. Control - Never heard of it Ancestors - Why would I want to go back in time to play as a monkey? Observation - Never heard of it Fortnite - I don't like to play games with kids. If you want to floss on kids, fine. MW5 - Never heard of it. Ooblets - Mocked everyone who didn't like epic. Tim Sweeny said the unprofessional response was "Amazing". Wattam - Never heard of it Borderlands 3 - 2k sent goons to a Youtuber's house to intimidate him because he covered borderlands 3 leaks, then filed 200 false DMCA strikes on his youtube channel getting it taken down. Also Randy P is a scumbag who assaulted the voice actor of clap trap, and they are banning anyone on the Gearbox Forums who mis-genders fl4k and doesn't use the "they/it" pronouns. All of David Cage's games - Beyond 2 souls was the worst piece of shit I had ever played. Free Games Weekly - Shame there are no cloud saves for those indie games, I would rather sail the high seas for a free game then download Epic. You get the same experience more or less.
Lucas Turner
There's a difference between caring for how much money devs make and how inconvenient normal users find a store to be, you sub80iq monkey.
Aiden Ross
No one besides Epic shills care about developer cuts Not even sónyggérs Not even Níntódlers Not even Xbóts Definitly not Steamcels lmao
Nathan Howard
>I would rather sail the high seas for a free game then download Epic. Probably a wiser decision than claiming them on EGS. There's no guarantee that EGS will even last a fucking year, but pirating these games will let you play it whenever you want even if EGS should go under.
Ayden Jackson
Steam has porn games Epic no porn games
Hunter Kelly
I DONT NEED IT I DEFEINITLY DONT NEED IT I DONT NEED IT I DONT NEED IT I DEFEINITLY DONT NEED IT I DONT NEED IT I DONT NEED IT I DEFEINITLY DONT NEED IT I DONT NEED IT
John Torres
wtf I love EGS now?
Lucas Sanchez
how is this possible? they can literally create the most complex software tool like unreal game engine but they can't make a fucking web site and game store client?
Robert Robinson
That's precisely the point. The consumer should only care what benefits the consumer, not some irrelevant shit like how much the devs get. Because all the better dev cuts in the world don't matter if the game's more expensive in your region because you happen to not live in the US.
Alexander Hernandez
So? If you want porn games, go buy them on Steam. If you want Epic exclusives, go buy them on Epic. That's how capitalism is supposed to work.
Gabriel Cooper
>Egs will not last a year EGS = Unreal engine and unreal will not die anytime soon my nigger, daily reminder source is dead and unreal is flourishing :)
Leo Gray
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STEAMCELS WHY DO WE ALWAYS FUCKING LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
Adam Anderson
shopping
cart
Jason Jones
I don't use shopping cart so I don't care about them, I'm not a dev so I don't care about the cut. Easy right?
Meanwhile >Maybe you don't care about shopping cart but think about others! >I'm not a dev so I don't care about them, don't think about others
Decide
Jonathan Flores
There's shopping carts in Fortnite
Leo Morales
Games on epic are cheaper than on steam in balkans, cope
Tyler Anderson
Comparing a consumer to a publisher or game developer Loving every laugh
Joseph Moore
lestago
Mason Gonzalez
There are games on EGS? Last I checked Borderlands isn't out yet?
Ian Ross
>But why is chinkland so strong ???? Fuck chinks but I don't care about working conditions I need my stuff nihilism yess Kys
Gavin Watson
Okay, this is officially lower than room temperature IQ. This is freezing point temperature IQ.
No one gives a shit about you no multiplayer Piratescum
Jayden Lopez
You know what is even cheaper then Epic? Sailing the high seas. You also get the added bonus of not needing to download Epic, or have your account hacked and games stolen by a 3rd worlder since they have had multiple privacy leaks. In fact, they are being sued because of it right now.
Then why are you even here trying to argue with me if you don't even care? Surprised you're not living in some isolated bunker in the middle of nowhere with no internet access if you care so little.
EGS is the clunkiest store ive ever seen, even polish key resellers have better stores.
Parker Martin
If there are no good games on epic why do people even care? It's like you coping with the fact that epic is winning
Alexander Long
Why are you even lying you subhuman, valve had more problems with hacking and malware than egs. >They got sued because muh hacked accounts Read your source again subhuman and stop lying it's about a potential security bug that got fixed before somebody got hacked
Hudson Smith
Well there was UT4
Jose Collins
Reminder that Sega and Bandai-Namco told EGS to fuck off.
Matthew White
>have millions upon millions of dollars from china and fortnite >throw millions at devs so they come on your platform >somehow can't even create a basic functional online store that the average small businesses could build or have built in mere days >b-but the 30% steam cut! think of the devs! Pathetic.
Brandon Martinez
>have millions upon millions of dollars from china That's the issue
Levi Long
Sega told that if a deal is good they will take it, bandai namco is open work with egs. 30% won't last long, new generation of gamers is taking over. And it's not s secret that gaming is a hobby for kids
Jacob Morgan
I'm sorry, where is the 2 factor on the Epic Store? I'm pretty sure you can just google "Epic Privacy Leaks" and see tons of articles of how they had leaks multiple times. And here is your law suit that was recently filed as a result. I think the EU was even going to fine them... polygon.com/2019/8/9/20799032/epic-games-fortnite-lawsuit-security-data
Jace Barnes
You know I keep thinking about this. It probably because of the limitations of the original software which was never intended to be a store front but only as a shitty game launcher. Now to add more features they will have to redo everything from the ground up. Just a guess
Nolan Lee
Jesus christ, he wants people to be able to communicate even while playing single player games!? What a monster.
Michael Rogers
How many Tim Sweeney's does it take to screw in a shopping cart?
My bad, they did add 2factor because people were being hacked so much.
Luis Peterson
>t. Doesn't even have an Epic account >Can't open up his fucking email to see several of login attempts weekly on his Epic account if he doesn't have one >Somehow this proves that Epic's accounts are more secure than Steam's
>mfw I had to create an Epic account to play that free version of Unreal Tournament they were development >Mfw for a year straight I received emails saying that someone was trying to recover my account >mfw it just suddenly stopped
>doesn't use brain.exe >wtfigothacked.jpg >epics fault Kys like I said epic doesn't have security problems newfaggot, learn to read before you spread bullshit
>shopping car never ever lol disrupting the market by being the shittest version of any online store
Luis Cox
Yes but I don't understand what that has to do with Epic, also >It is our understanding that the obsolete forum database contained usernames, email addresses and salted MD5 passwords (MD5 is an encryption algorithm we used to encrypt your data). This means your old passwords were secured and not directly accessible by anyone
Owen Price
Anyone got a screenshot of him badmouthing the Hong Kong Protests?
Joseph Anderson
Wouldn't be surprised if he diddles little boys to be honest
Luke Collins
Neck yourself sub80iq monkey. Time and time again it's been shown that the EGS hackings happen completely without any form of user action. By comparison, it's on STEAM that people only lose their accounts because of stupidly clicking obvious malicious links. Epic's account info gets leaked every day, and it doesn't even matter if the user did anything stupid or not.
Jackson Stewart
If your email and password was leaked somewhere else be it GoG or whatever it can be used to log into your epic account. Which is what happens 99% of the time you get e-mails from epic. You should prolly change your passwords everywhere. What is weird to me why the fuck people try to log into epic account so hard. There is nothing to gain from it anyway
Cameron Martin
That's true if you used the same email.
Tyler Allen
Epic probably has some half-assed implementation where you can request all the data they have on you, in accordance with GDPR. I wouldn't be surprised if this includes credit card information. Hack an Epic account, request information, get credit cards, wait a few years until nobody recalls this incident, and then fraudulently spend all you wish.
Daniel Young
It's to see if you have anything valuable in Fortnite.
Easton Morgan
Obviously, which is the case for majority of population. Steam does not suffer that problem because they don't use e-mails as a login
Christian Collins
>Randy "If you're 14, I get extremely forward" Pitchford >Epic Failures made in marriage.
Kayden Sullivan
>wait a few years until nobody recalls this incident literally no one that steals accounts would do this
Luis Flores
By scamming Sega.
James Nelson
>Metro Exodus >even in any leaugue like stalker
Nah, keep your hollywood shooter
Zachary Jenkins
It does not include credit card information.
Eli Gonzalez
Can't believe somebody is still falling for Epic's bullshit. They just want to become Steam with the less amount of effort possible. Also, the whole wanting to become a competitor to Steam is just a lie. They don't want to share the pie with Steam, they just want the whole pie for themselves.
Gavin Sanchez
>better L4d I typically don't use newfag meme words but this poster is absolutely coping.
Jackson Morales
Explain, you can't trade that shit anyway
Jackson Young
they sell the account
Robert White
>Epic Store customer support >LOL WE SENT YOUR PERSONAL DATA TO SOME RANDOM SCHMUCK SUCKS TO BE YOU I GUESS NOW LET ME GET BACK TO THAT CHINESE DICK >GOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLE
Luke Ross
>We regularly delay feature releases due to shifting priorities and the need for further iteration. what they are basically saying is: bribing developers to use our store takes priority over improving its functionality in any way.
If Epic is the only company actively trying to keep games off of Steam, but Steam literally does not give a fuck what other platforms its games are on, then how is steam binding anything to just its storefront? Sounds like you're literally praising Epic for claiming to fight a policy that only they practice.
Brody Wright
>EPIC TAKING GAMES FROM STEAM IS GOOD Fuck off you retards. GOG is getting caught in the cross fire of your dumb fucking fight.
Kayden Collins
Stop lying you subhuman waste of air and kill yourself already
Tim Sweeney and his cult is so obsessed over Steam they don't give a fuck who gets hurt in the process. The only thing they want is a monopoly. People like Tim are true scum. Wouldn't be surprised if he used to hang out with that pedophile.
Brandon Hughes
>it only happened once so it's ok
Chase Phillips
There was no other platforms trying to sell third party games with DRM after 2010, and it's all thanks to steamworks.
Henry Lee
Diablo+ FPS is a GREAT formula to sell. That's it.
Ayden Moore
No it's not okay, but it's not something worth bragging about.
Alexander Gutierrez
I understood what you meant for anyone that doesnt understand: its the same thought process as microtransactions, since they are individual purchases they add up and its a little trick to make you feel like you arent spending that much because each purchase costs less
If you make 1 purchase of $100 it seems like alot but if you make 10 individual purchases of $10 each your brain doesnt consider it to be spending as much even though in both cases you spent $100
>they're still committed to the roadmap meme Why? What's so hard about spending some time making all the features an online store is supposed to have, implementing it all into one big update, and calling it good? There's no way in hell that for all the fortnite money they have in their company coffers that they can't just hire a few software developers to just make a storefront page in a matter of weeks. Is Epic truly this lazy?
Aaron Lopez
They probably would
Nathaniel Ramirez
Microsoft charge 30% sony charge 30% nintendo charge 30% apple charge 30% google charge 30% all of this is okay
steam charge 30% UNACCEPTABLE THIS IS EVIL
Jace James
So does that mean epic is actually being even more anti-consumer
Asher Ramirez
You stop lying. The one you're linking to got easily fixed because Steam was responsible and fixed that shit. Meanwhile, EGS users still get hundreds of unauthorized login attempts per week without a solution, while you'd be really unlucky if you even got one during the fuckup you're linking to. And believe me, I remember that fuckup as it was yesterday, and it just blew over. Epic's security issues, however, won't blow over until they actually pull their heads out of their asses and add 2FA or someshit.
Landon Walker
>Why Because they can program the NPCs to act like the roadmap means they're committed to customers instead of just being one giant monopoly in the making.
Brayden Campbell
I'm just waiting for the day when these people realize Tim Sweeney isn't actually their messiah and wont even let faildevs anywhere near EGS.
Leo Reed
He was talking about PC gaming, you stupid nigger.
>We curate our store to ensure only the best games are on there >Ooblets >Bee game >Indie trash that looks like it came out of one of Sony's desperation conferences
>voluntary steam exclusive who didn't sign a contract
Andrew Gutierrez
>sony putting games on epic this is because microsoft is putting their games on steam isnt it?
Landon Hill
So all the Epic exclusives won't disappear with the death of Epic?
Evan Gomez
>says cyberbully Is this the gay from yesterday's thread or are all epicdrones basing their lines from the same guidebook
Jeremiah Campbell
So what you're saying is that, since developers and publishers used the platform that was most convenient to their customers and themselves, somehow that means Steam is enforcing exclusivity and not allowing games on their store to be sold elsewhere?
Chase Smith
>it's not something worth bragging about Of course not, epic shouldn't be bragging about leaking personal data to another person through a request
Justin Morris
He mentioned darwinia so most likely he's an epic shill on Yea Forums
Brayden Campbell
>Descartes quote >Voltaire pic HMMMMMM
Sebastian Anderson
you might have a point if consoles didnt exist console version will have microtransactions so any pc version regardless of shopping cart will have microtransactions aswell, infact they will probably just make it so you can buy them in game rarther than going through the storefront's regular process
Joseph Morris
Nope, epic does not have anything software wise that prevent selling games from their store on other stores
Justin Ross
As opposed to what?
Cooper Stewart
>infact they will probably just make it so you can buy them in game And it's already happening in a way
Dominic Ward
Yes, just like valve and publisher decided to kill other storefronts years ago now epic and publishers will kill steam. And no, no one liked steam back then either
Blake Martin
>And yes, all the crazy microtransaction cosmetic shit and DLC probably wouldn't be there without a shopping cart because it would be too much of a hassle for consumers to buy everything on it own >too much of a hassle What the fuck is this
Isaiah Hall
>How could you not have considered my niche philosophical interpretation on the nature of conflict when arguing with me on the internet?
Goodness gracious user, get some perspective please
Evan Bell
As opposed to steam DRM and steamworks.
Brayden Harris
Steamworks is completely optional, the publisher decides if they want it or not. How do you explain all the games you can already buy on both steam and other storefronts like EGS or GOG?
Alexander Morris
Most of it is optional and because of lazy devs
Ethan Green
>Steam DRM prevents a company from releasing their game on multiple platforms Huh, I guess that's why Yakuza 0 is on Steam and Playstation ...
James Brooks
Many of those storefronts supported drm themselves and couldn't compete due to steamworks giving publishers what they wanted while being more mainstream than them
Brody Cox
Honestly i feel like the reason some people are so pro-steam is because: >ability to reviewbomb >steam has visual novels >my weeb and pony community groups I can't really think of any other reason
Caleb Miller
You don't need a shopping cart if you don't buy any games from EGS
Ryder Price
It isn't a philosophical interpretation. It is merely a semantic difference.
Caleb Watson
If they are doing it on purpose yes And its hard to believe that they cant program a shopping cart when students can do this so its most likely on purpose
Joshua Murphy
If those are the only reasons you can come up with then I weep for you.
Ryder Wilson
>semantic difference So completely fucking irrelevant to anything. Take your fake intellectualism and go.
Gavin Howard
why would the pc cut be different to digital sales on console and even if we're talking about just pc
Microsoft app store takes 30% Gog takes 30% and Origin for the few games that are on it that arent published by EA themselves, they take 30%
Liam Sullivan
In case of GoG it's easy, no DRM. In terms of games sold on epic it's also easy, they are DRM free or have their own DRM such as subnstica. You can delete and replace steamworks shit, but it cost money to do hence why shit like Discord store was doomed to failure. No one is going to do that for a small storefront, and you won't became big by not selling games.
There is s very good reason why steam has had no competition and it's not due to them being better at the time.
Bentley Green
discounts can be done in any shop and i don't care about anything else
Joshua Myers
Are you baiting me? Or are you seriously this ignorant of how software fucking works?
Kevin Ramirez
Steam has had no competition because nobody wanted to compete. Epic LITERALLY abandoned PC gaming screeching about pirates. Gaben is the one that said piracy is a service problem, even though he's wrong because you can literally suck their dicks and piratefags will still pirate
Josiah Gomez
Are you Because your posts are too similar to him
Easton Ross
Correct, steam was the biggest storefront due to popularity of their first party exclusives and then they use that market share to obliterate their competitors. Note steamdrm was not optional for a few years when competition exsisted. It was directly targeted at competitiors and steam won, it's because they are not good guys like some fags like to believe. Steam is a buisness, extremely profitable one
Isaiah Ross
>Note steamdrm was not optional for a few years when competition exsisted Where is the source
Hunter Turner
>Steam has had no competition because nobody wanted to compete.
How fucking old are you? Jesus christ
Dominic Walker
It isn't intellectualism you fucking brainlet. That was the point of saying that it was a semantics thing and not a philosophical thing you absolute retard.
Gavin Walker
Nah, but I may as well just copy his twits. Will save me some time
Aiden Baker
>How old are you I used to play games on DOS as a kid.
Isaiah Allen
Because all my games are on steam If I cant have all my games in one place then what reason do I have not to just pirate everything instead and make a folder where I have all my games in one place
>Before that it was obviously required where was the statement that steamworks was compulsory for all games on the steam store before that
Camden Lopez
>Doubt but whatever While I no longer have that machine, i literally have my Windows 98 machine sitting next to me right now at least. It's my 2000 dollar coffee table. >steamdrm Show me where steamdrm has prevented games from releasing on other platforms. Do you even know what DRM is?
Gabriel Morris
>Shopping cart >Steam workshop >Trading and trading cards >Refunds >Two way authentication with phone app >Steam share (sharing games with friends) >Integrated streaming service. >Gifting games. >Steam overlay (and all of its features) >Gift cards and sending virtual giftcards to friends. >Big picture mode and per game controller rebindings. Epic has so little features and the only reason people like epic is counter culture and nothing more.
Elijah Howard
>Hey, we add option for your games to be drm free on steam now. >Where is the proof that games before that were forced to use drm
And i wasted 30 seconds of my life googling it for you, i guess i lose here.
Adam Stewart
Rag Doll Kung Fu was released on steam as the first third party game and it didn't have steamworks
Gavin Long
>“Another trend we have seen in the past year has been Valve’s successful work with getting Steamworks licensed as a DRM solution by major publishers. Once a game requires Steamworks, it is effectively cut off from us, which limits our content. Examples of this include THQ’s Dawn of War II, SEGA’s Empire: Total War, and more recently Activision’s Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2. The problem is that it is not practical for us to install a game that in turn requires the installation of a competitor’s store and platform in order to play.”
Yes, i know what steam drm is. It's uplay like drm.
>when the post is not even targeted at you Oh yeah lets just reply to people without "targeting" our post to them.
Alexander Roberts
and where is the evidence that it was compulsory to use steamworks when you signed up with steam
Jose Cruz
Neither will the EGS.
Benjamin Jackson
They were not able to even verify if you own the product withouth steamDRM before 2009. But if you have any source to support your claim that will prove that it was in fact drm free before 2009 i will obviously accept that i'm a moron
Jayden Thomas
There was no other option to sell your game on steam otherwise? That's quite compulsory if you ask me
Where is this quote from? I want more context. If they're just crying that they don't have anything that is equivalent to steam works, that's a them problem, not a steam problem.
Even if they had their own solution of that kind publishers would not opt to maitain 2 version of the same games just to sell it on storefront with 10% market. It's just better to let it die, and it's not like people had any kind of brand loyalty to storefronts back then anyway.
Mason Wood
>next to minecraft minecraft has beat it though >MW5 Mechwarrior 5 will be terrible LIVING LEGENDS GANG
Yeah, that pretty much boils down to a them problem. >What the fuck? We have to compete with a superior service?!?
Sebastian Reed
NO! Steam was just as bad 20 years ago, stop bullying Epic!
Justin Stewart
Stardock was doing everything steam was doing and even more. But they steam had exclusives, very popular ones so it was bigger. and they used that to destroy competition. Also, steam vowed to destroy physical copies which was something publishers wanted. Stardock wanted to preserve them, and it's one of the reason they are dead now. They were more pro-consumer
Blake Jackson
Yeah, it's what happens in markets where the competitor is already fucking strong to begin with and is able to compete from a stronger front. This is what happens in most "free" markets
Luis White
Ok, now I know you're this faggot but what I dont know is why you're shilling your drivel here >The problem is that it is not practical for us to install a game that in turn requires the installation of a competitor’s store and platform in order to play it There's no point to install one DRM when the game requires another and in this regard, they have a point. That didnt stop steam from hosting Ubisoft games, now did it? Since they all require Uplay as well, Steam could pull the very same excuse as Stardock did and dump them when Uplay launched in 2012, yet they didnt. Wanna explain that?
Andrew Bell
Why do publishers feel entitled to have everyone sign up for their own launcher when we can just pirate shit?
