Every Zelda game ranked from worst to best

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FUCKING NEWFAG THIS BOARD LOVES OOT
even tho botw, and majoras is just better

Majora's Mask is garbage

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OoT is the best. All others just cannot defeat the master work.

Both MM and OoT are great. You just need to git gud and manage your time better

BoTW and SS are the only awful Zelda games

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To make contrarians & zoomer cucks seethe even more
> 1. OOT
> 2. ALTTP
> 3. TWW
> 4. MM
> 5. BOTW
> 6. TP
> 7. TloZ
> 8. LA
> 9. ALBW
> 10. OoA
> 11. SS
> 12. MC
> 13. OoS
> 14. AoL
> 15. ST
> 16. PH
> 17. FSA
> 18. T.Heroes

>tfw u find your dad's young link folder

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BOTW fags are genuinely autistic faggots, nobody cares about your shit Ubisoft game. OOT will never be surpassed

Thats fine. The list is just my opinion on what I personally enjoyed. Its better when people have differing opinions rather than everyone just agreeing constantly.

>the NES games
>doesn't even have Zelda 1 on his top 3 list
trolling or retarded. Zelda 1 is a good game but objectively inferior to OoT in every way other than difficulty. Zelda 2 is the choice pick of contrarian autismos and is an absolute dookie stain on the series. now go back to emulating zoom zoom. shoo.

>includes ALTTP but not the game that plays closest to ALTTP in 3D i.e. Ocarina

>Oracle of Ages higher than Seasons

Factually and irrevocably wrong.

>doesn't even have Zelda 1 on his top 3 list
read my list again retard
It's objectively superior to OoT in that it's actually a game with challenge and fun. OoT is a hand holding cinematic experience.

ALBW and Spirit tracks are the only Zeldas I haven't played. Are either worth playing?

>OoT
>Habdholding

Where?

>twilight princess
>B tier
>original LoZ
>C tier
>Link Between Worlds
>A tier
Were you born a drooling dipshit or did you have to work hard to get there?

HEY! LISTEN!

ALBW is one of the best games released in the last five years

ALBW is good, if a bit easy. Spirit tracks is...alright. Fixed a lot of what was wrong with phantom hourglass.

The game literally has enemies explain to you how to defeat them, in text paragraphs.

Theres no need for this behaviour sir.

>being reminded of the general objective of the quest is handholding

I guess the old man telling you how to beat the dog monster thing using the meat is handholding too.

I never beat PH. Can't even remember where I was in it when i dropped it. I hated the controls, does Spirit Tracks let me play with buttons?

>SSS Tier
BoTW, OOT, AlttpP, Majoras
>SS Tier
TP, LA, LoZ
>S Tier
ALBW
>A Tier
WW, Crissbow training
>B Tier
Phantom Hourglass
>C Tier
Spirit Tracks

Played them all in the past two years and my first Zelda was twilight princess ages ago. Gonna play Skyward sword soon

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Funny how the first three Zelda games have very little of that and are a lot more fun to play,
because they don't patronise players and actually requires them to use their own initiative and skill to beat them.

>Gonna play Skyward sword soon
Don't

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>if the game is obtuse then is more fun!

I bet you thought the hidden stairs on that bush you had to burn was peak fun.

Told myself I was gonna play every zelda game and nothing can stop me

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I never said anything about obtuseness or burning a bush.

Yet more proof that OoT fags are deluded nostalgia faggots with stunted development

>OoT plays closest to ALttP in 3D
It doesn't at all. Only someone who never played ALttP would think this.

Ranked by whom?
Why should I care about their opinion over anyone elses?

Wait......is their's the fabled Objective Opinion that the legends fortold?

but the majority of Yea Forums agrees Ocarina is the best one, or at least the best 3D game

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Cope more Zoomer

Explain what's good or interesting about it from a design perspective.

>same general act structure albeit with less nonlinearity regarding dungeons
unless you're trying to argue BOTW plays anything like a 2D Zelda in which case I'm gonna assume you haven't played any of them and are parroting bullshit

How far did you get into Zelda 2?

Burden of proof is on you the contrarian to explain why the most acclaimed & iconic game ever is "Bad"

No one actually played Zelda 2.

Thought as much.
>I-it's good b-because game journalists say so
>ignore the fact that game journalists are total retards with zero critical faculties and overhype everything

>best video game of all time is a shota game
lolifags btfo

>Zelda
>Ruto
>Malon
>Saria

Zelda 2 is the ultimate pleb filter. Plebs badmouth it without having played it or getting very far into it.

Swap WW and AlttP. Now it's perfect

I have sex so i dont remember much but i like twilight princess and ocarina of time

t. actual pleb

I'm nearly 30 and never had sex.

>I have sex
Sure, buddy

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Original user you were discussing with.
I finished the game. The hammer being able to chop down trees is another example of obtuse shit in old Zelda games.

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>this thread
dance puppets, dance!

>act structure
Has nothing to do with how the games play. They are nothing alike.
>you're trying to argue BOTW plays like a 2D Zelda
Nowhere did I say anything even remotely similar to that statement

Yeah but that's just the salad dressing to the core of the game, which is challenging and fun as fuck

OoT > MM > ALTTP > TP > LA > BOTW > WW > SS

Too lazy to rank the other games

WW was pretty fucking nice too. Remember the scary shit in it, ocarina of time and twilight princess aswell

Good list. Always good to see LA and oracle games high up with wind waker in the middle.

>DeS: set the foundations of the fanbase, albeit old is still loved even despite its flaws
>DS1: loved by many and turned the franchise into a household name all over the world
>DS2: overhyped only to turn out to be a dissapointing mess
>BB: almost as loved as DS1, many call it the peak of the franchise while many call it just a reskin of previous games
>DS3: very divisive, a lot of people love it and think of it as a return to roots while at the same time a lot of people think it didnt live up to previous games
yeah sounds accurate

This implys SS was the best one tho

>swap SS for WW
>make SS Sekiro
>Elden Ring is BOTW

ALttP has very little flaws in comparison to OoT and most 3D Zeldas.

>Elden Ring is BOTW
Do you have brain damage?

Sekiro is Wind Waker
>devs try something new only to be met with a lot of negative feedback from old fans but not seasonal players

Twilight Princess will forever be the best Zelda game. Some of the best dungeons in the series while also having a huge amount of them, best sidekick character + goofy ass character designs, very comfy but melancholic atmosphere for the most part. The only negative thing about it is the huge empty overworld.

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Twilight Princess' biggest flaw is being totally boring, by-the-numbers and half finished

>boring
subjective
>by the numbers
What's wrong with this?
>half finished
prove it

>and half finished
That's WW friend.

lmao what a retard
zelda 2 is the goat

very challenging action-rpg with incredible soundtrack atmosphere and character design

you only dont like it because you suck shit at games ERGO your opinion is of 0 (zero) value

REAL MAN'S LIST FOR NOT-FAGS
1. Zelda 2
2. Majora's Mask
3. LttP

That's actually a fine list, user. There's hope on Yea Forums.

Wind Waker is the half finished one.

>fucking LTTP on GBA, FSA and WW on the same tier as MC
Trash list

both are open world

>what's wrong with this
People generally like to see creative and exciting things rather than uninspired shit
>prove it
The wolf brought so little of interest gameplay-wise I have to assume they had bigger plans but failed to see them through

>fucking LTTP on GBA
No. Four Swords.

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>People generally like to see creative and exciting things
And I saw that with the Twilight and Midna.

and i forgot that FSA isn't a 3d zelda game, oopsie

Twilight is genuinely a good fucking flaw. Its main flaw is that nearly everything before the water temple is fucking garbage.

How is that creative when a dark alternate world was already down two times before in Zelda, and in better ways?

>The wolf brought so little of interest gameplay-wise I have to assume they had bigger plans but failed to see them through
Doesn't mean the game is half finished. The wolf is still used a lot

man i wish MM had real time management
still a good game though

>Its main flaw is that nearly everything before the water temple is fucking garbage.
Nah, the Goron mines was a good temple and the duel with the Bulbin on the bridge was sick.

but the wolf sections were ASSSSSSS user

so obtuse

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speedrun of ocarina of time is scary

Am I the only one who likes Four Swords Adventures?

>but the wolf sections were ASSSSSSS user
That's why I didn't mention it because I didn't like them either. Also, Goron wrestling. That was cool too.

No user I think we're the only ones who had friends to play it with

>and in better ways?
Nah, none of them pulled off the foreign atmosphere of the Twilight. Down to the music and monsters.

not that guy, but AoL does have some seriously questionable content design problems. Although for once this is a case where "pleb filter" is somewhat reasonable as the game is worthwhile once you push through shit like having some of the very first areas you can enter being too dark to see anything.

>make a decent lockon system and relatively large open world
>forever praise as the best game ever despite not being that good a few years post-release

>gameboy games in the correct tier
For once, user was not a faggot

SS is not as bad as PH and ST and I will argue that till the end of the earth. I know people hate it and it absolutely is heavily flawed but its not as bad as those two games

Ocarina somehow still is the best one. They've really lost the sense of what made it feel so magical and full of meaning. BotW is just a big wide wafer in comparison, nothing feels meaningful or intriguing once you've explored enough to know that there's nothing there. I can't imagine ever playing through BotW again, yet Ocarina I can still play and enjoy.

Fuck you SS is great until it becomes shit

Where my Minish cap bros at?

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in the dumpster where they belong

MinishCHAD word up

skyward sword isnt a bad game user. its just not as good as the heavy hitters in the series. exceedingly mediocre at worst. i suppose you could call that bad in a way but its not a horrible game

Skyward Sword has the best dungeons and music in the series, and absolutely nothing else.

Replace OOT with MM and this list is 100% based.

>80s bad
>90s good
>00s bad

>Skyward Sword has one good dungeon
ftfy

I'll explain
BotW is a game that respects the player and lets them wander around and find things out for themselves. It's fun, engaging, and early on even challenging.
OoT is a brainless cinematic game where you don't have to decide anything and you're railroaded into set pieces with zero challenge, ever, and there's copious text explaining things to you.
That might be why your prefer the latter.

I see you saved the Oracle games for a tier so high it went off the top of your post.

Minish cap is at A tier though

>DS1: loved by many and turned the franchise into a household name all over the world
Zelda 1 was a bigger-selling game than ALTTP.
You youngfags have no idea what it was like waiting 5 years between Legend of Zelda and A Link to the Past. People loved Adventure of Link in its own way but everyone wanted a proper sequel to the original.

Cope

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It has at least four
>Lanayru Mining Facility
>Ancient Cistern
>Sand Ship
>Sky Keep

>botw over oot
You're crazy. BotW wins in two areas: combat and exploration. Dungeon design is worse, enemy variety is worse, boss design is worse, music is worse. I could continue that list ad nauseam if you like.

Maple from the Oracle games was my waifu as a kid.

This list was made by an incompetent retard.

If you put TLoZ or ZII low on your list because they are "outdated" you have absolutely no taste.

>>Sand Ship
It's just this one.

theyre both half finished. both WW and TP are composed of unused dungeon designs from OoT

Yea Forums literally voted OOT as the greatest game of all time you retard

Agree to disagree. This was absolute kino.

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Divine Beasts make way better use of 3D space than the dungeons in OoT and actually force the player to think of them in totality rather than a series of linear rooms. The bosses in OoT are also no better and the music in BotW is amazing. You're very wrong.

SS has obvious flaws like repeating the exact same stuff to pad out the story, particularly recycling areas (you have to traverse the volcano four damn times), Fi's alert system, ugly menu design, and an indefensible lack of connection between areas on the map despite them literally being adjacent.

However, it is still incredibly satisfying to complete, the combat is fun once you figure out how to keep your hand in the right place, the story is the best conveyed in any Zelda, the shimmering scaly art style is unique, the music and dungeons are excellent, and the main characters are all memorable. It is overall a very good game, and absolutely way better than BotW and a little bit better than TP too. I understand liking it less than other Zeldas, but the hatred for it here is demented.

half these games have the same cover

>both WW and TP are composed of unused dungeon designs from OoT
Every Zelda is like that. They all use designs that didn't make the cut in other games.

There's such a weird but stark diving line between N64 babies who focus on all the peripheral bullshit and earlier fans who treat the puzzles and structure as elements to enrich and enhance the core combat gameplay, rather than the being the main point of playing with combat as an occasional distraction/minigame.

>the story is the best conveyed in any Zelda
The story was absolute shit.

Thank you for the explanation as to why you are a tasteless autist who can't appreciate nuance.

>wandering around aimlessly is fun
Based brainlet

Alttp is overrated. It established the zelda formula and "dark world" but doesnt add anything else.
Didn't have good characters, good overworld, exploration and the music tracks were few.
It still a pretty good game, but it had apparent flaws.

TP is not the one that's half finished, and that's what make it bad.
It didn't have development problems, but oh boy it did have problems as a game.

>It didn't have development problems
It actually did since Aonuma left his team unsupervised and without guidance many times over the course of the game just to fuck around on MC's development. Also being an unfinished game is never a good thing. Nobody likes NV for being unfinished.

>ALttP didn't have a good overworld, exploration or music
You clearly haven't played it. Also: "characters"? What? Who gives a shit?
Play the first three Zelda games and learn what real games are, stop playing that 3D shite

SS is no way better than TP. It has the problems TP has, the wolf sections but somehow WORSE.
TP at least had an interesting overworld, dungeon and gameplay.
SS story is better than TP tho, and that's not a compliment.

>Spirit tracks bad
I bet a lot of you giga faggots don't even play it, im a big Zelda fag and this is one is on my top 5 easy

"I'm a baby who was born in the 90's" starter pack.

>SS story is better than TP tho
It wasn't, TP's story is head and shoulders above that tripe.

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Gameplay is good, but not enough, i already know i have to collect items to unlock stuff and beat the big bad guy, but why should i care about the world if i dont know anything about it?
Zelda isn't mario, zelda relies on other things besides gameplay.

>BotW that low
>OoT that high
>LA not in the highest tier
>WW above TP, BotW, and fucking LoZ
Awful list.

More proof that BotW is pleb filter

Just watch this and you know it's true.

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MM fags noot not apply, it's unpolished and just dumb with shit pacing. >>>/NeoGAF/

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WWbabbies always have the worst taste.

>he plays Zelda for the story
Jesus christ what is wrong with you

WW should be D because of all the fucking water and ALttP should be the only SS.

There's nothing wrong with that tho.

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Yeah, it was adventure.

Yes there is. There's never been a Zelda game with a good story

>SS
>Origins of Master Sword, Hylian people and Hyrule
>TP
>Oh no, bad people are corrupting the cities! get this bugs for whatever fucking reasons, who cares, also you are a wolf.
>Zants seems like a treat!!! SIKE he's a faggot and also someone elses pupet.
>it was not zant who did this, It was me, Ganon!

I'm not prasing SS story but it did a lot things better than TP, also Zelda existed in SS, unlike TP.

>Yes there is.
Zelda has some neat lore in it and there's nothing wrong with people liking that over some other aspects of the series.

>Zelda has some neat lore in it
Like?

>why the fuck would you want MORE things in the videogame? Just play for the gameplay!
that's not how it works, gameplay is good but having other GOOD stuff is also GOOD and makes the game BETTER.

The problem there is that Zeldas don't have GOOD stories.

>>SS
>>Origins of Master Sword, Hylian people and Hyrule
Shit that we didn't need or want, and ruined characters forever.

>also Zelda existed in SS
Yeah, as the basic childhood friend cliche only here they force her down on you Fallout 3 style.
>unlike TP
But Zelda did appear and stole the show when she did.

Here is the objective Yea Forums real time with pause for all the marbles MY GOD HAND son of a submariner official ranking of every Legginz of Delda gayme ever made ever from thirty years ago until the stars turn to rust and drop from the sky and Meat Loaf finally dies only to return from the grave three days later to do a collab with Rob Halford of Judas Priest and the zombie of Freddie Mercury:
>WORST
the one you really like
>BEST
the one you really hate

The Oracles, the Minish people, the ethnic cleansing of the Gerudo people, the regions outside of the Hyrule, stuff like that.

Why do people like LTTP so much?
>Most of the game is going from dungeon to dungeon.
>You can always find another dungeon within 4 screens from the entrance of a dungeon
>All dungeons are pretty much the same, just a palette swap of the walls and floors
>All dungeons except Hyrule castle share two music tracks making them even harder to differentiate.
>95% of "puzzles" consists of beating every enemy in the room. Most enemies can be killed with sword slash spam.

>spent all this money to buy Fours swords because my ex gf loves Zelda, but never played it
>brought 2 GBA SP, two link cables, and the big box copy of four swords
>all she plays is overwatch, fortnight, Minecraft, and some online MMO furry game

Why do women they like things they don’t even like.

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Why do people like so much?
>All you do is press buttons
>The visuals change on screen every time

Because that was the one they played first and thus they think it's the best. Or they played another 2D Zelda first and they like 2D zeldas more than 3DPD. Same reason people like FFVII the most, same reason people like whatever they like the most.
>but I did
WELL CONGRATS YOU FUCKING OUTLIER GOOD ON YOU MOTHERFUCKER AREN'T YOU UNIQUE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DICK SUCKING PORCH MONKEY EVER MADE GOD
/cruise

>MM
>the world will die if you don't do anything about it, characters clearly are affected by it, dialogue clearly shows this
>WW
>Hero of time left and there was no one to save hyrule, so the goddeses flodded hyrule making it a sea. You fight against ganondorf who wants to return hyrule to its previous glory

and tha's about it, i don't particulary like OoT story because its barebones but it had a neat concept for gameplay, same for minish cap.

You bought them when you were together, right?

For example:

lmao if you think Zelda even matter in TP, every other Zelda are better.

>lmao if you think Zelda even matter in TP
She's the only reason why Midna is alive and Link isn't forever stuck in his wolf form and got the MS. Nah all the other Zelda suck because they're boring or complete fucks up like SS and OoT Zelda EXCEPT for ST Zelda who actually does shit.

This list is fine.

Of course, I ended up kicking her out of my place when she started doing heavy drugs because her friends were doing it.
She was like a child
>tell her that it’s bad for her body
>fuck you, does it anyway
Relationship is built on trust. With that, your just a fuck buddy

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>Why do people like ALttP so much?
Because it's a beautifully designed game where the core mechanic (moving across a vertical and horizontal axis) is seemingly rinsed for all the complexity and challenge it could possibly have.
>You can always find another dungeon within 4 screens from the entrance of a dungeon
The overworld of ALttP doesn't have "screens" in the way that you imply, it has separate areas where the camera follows Link and transitions between them, so I'm assuming you either haven't played it or you're making up shit to nitpick it.
>All dungeons are pretty much the same
No they aren't though, what on earth are you talking about?
>All dungeons except Hyrule castle share two music tracks making them even harder to differentiate.
It's very easy to differentiate them though, I really have no clue what the fuck you're talking about
>95% of "puzzles" consists of beating every enemy in the room. Most enemies can be killed with sword slash spam.
The game barely has "puzzles" in the sense you imply, and using a poor method to kill certain enemies rather than a faster one is fine, it's your choice (Gibdos will be annoying in particular).

>Everyone's a retard like me who only likes game they played "first"
"No".

>No they aren't though, what on earth are you talking about?
Not him, but I remember most of the dungeons revolving around stepping on buttons and finding keys.

Examples aside you've just got it backwards.

The earlier 2D zelda games attracted people who liked playing action-oriented arcade-style videogames but with a non-entirely-linear structure and maybe some light RPG elements or character growth. They like combat and see the quests as just providing some structure and direction in a not-entirely-linear game.

3D Zelda games attracted people that like story and an immersive world more than gameplay. They get satisfaction from completing assigned tasks and getting a pat on the head from an NPC. The specific steps needed to complete each task aren't important or the focus.

Yeah and if you don't have the brain of a five year old you can see how the totally different layouts, items and gimmicks differentiate them

I've played every zelda game excluding cdi games.

I was born March 1990 so yes you are correct.

>Yeah and if you don't have the brain of a five year old
lmao calm down mate, no need to shit your pants. I like the game too.

>different layouts, items and gimmicks differentiate them
The layouts sure but most of the time items felt like another way to get over an obstacle... and that's it.

Only the N64 Zelda games are good.

>calm down
I am calm I'm just being an ass on Yea Forums for the joke

>The layouts sure but most of the time items felt like another way to get over an obstacle... and that's it.
Right, and the different obstacles that need different items are what differentiate the dungeons

>Why do women they like things they don’t even like
They are sheep, they follow whatever everyone is following
Your mistake was thinking she had Quality taste in anything.
>furry mmo
That was the red flag right there, girls into furry are mega sluts.
I know that from experience
>meet a girl on discord into furry and live near me
>we hang out for a few hours
>date ends with me cream pie her ass
Didn’t even ask for condom

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>raw dogging a mega slut's ass
Has your dick fallen off yet?

but having an story, immerse world AND gameplay is better than having just gameplay.

Yes it is, with vague goals and the ability to enjoy exploring for its own sake. Only joyless husks say otherwise

It really depends on the game. There aren't many games out there with good writing, let alone ones that have good gameplay AND writing

The best games incorporate story into the gameplay, anyway, so that they're indistinguishable

>Yes it is, with vague goals and the ability to enjoy exploring for its own sake.
Gay as fuck desu.

does MM count in that case?

All the dark world dungeons have the same music and same general aesthetic with color palette swap for the floors and walls, maybe you can argue that there is a pattern swap for the floor/walls if you are being generous. Sure in one dungeon there is ice on the walls and an ice mechanic on the floor and in one dungeon there is shallow water on the floor.

It's a lot gayer to prefer linear cinematic shite

There's nothing worth exploring
BotW is ultimate zoomer bait

They're both very gay.

It doesn't matter, the layout is dissimilar enough and the different item usage is enough that most people don't have trouble seeing the difference between them.

You sound gay
>There's nothing worth exploring
If you're a boring faggot who needs artificial rewards every 10 seconds, yes

>You sound gay
lol how can you hear me over a message board.

The DS games are very underrated

What do you do while you wander around aimlessly? Gather 15 mushrooms so you can turn in a side """quest"""?

No, I liked it a lot too. Even more so after going through the struggle for multiple GBAs and multiple gcn link cables

>artificial rewards
Tangible, meaningful ones would work too.
Fuck, I bet you thought Death Stranding gameplay looked good.

Ages IS better than seasons you fucking mouthbreather

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>excuse me, walking around an empty field IS a reward
Never make games.

The list I found didn't have everything available, but I did the best with what I had. I'd put Tri-Force Heroes with 4 swords and A Link between Worlds.

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You look around and find cool shit and take in the beautiful scenery. Pick a few mushrooms as well if you like.
>Tangible, meaningful ones
And you can, Spirit Orbs. The game just doesn't rely on hitting that pathetic dopamine dose of "now your stats have gone up by 0.0001%" every 10 seconds, or "now you have this permanent weapon that was better than your last one, discard the last one forever".

>You look around and find cool shit and take in the beautiful scenery. Pick a few mushrooms as well if you like.
So this is what BOTW fags like?

I hope you never make games as well, the medium is saturated enough with meaningless ADHD games for people who whine when all landmarks aren't 2 minutes away from each other

Actually, I think I would put Skyward Sword in with the enjoyable games. It had a great story and the arysyle was wonderful, but I don't know if I'd say it was as fun as the entries I put it with.

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People in general like wandering around and finding cool things, yes. Sorry if you don't, but that more than likely makes you the outlier. Now go back to playing OoT so the game can tell you what to do and you don't have to worry about all that

>the medium is saturated enough with meaningless ADHD games for people who whine when all landmarks aren't 2 minutes away from each other
Games like that are rare as fuck these days because of open world trash.

>it's either an empty field or what you described
BotW Zoomers really have no sense of nuance. Buddy, it's ok that people think your favorite game is overrated.

I loved exploring the world in BOTW. Dungeons have always been one of my least favorite parts of the series. I just want the items inside them that unlock more of the overworld. I hope that BOTW2 actually gives us some interesting tools and some actual weapons.

OoT Zelda did help though, gave you songs, helpful tips and what not, she also sealed fucking ganondorf.
WW Zelda has an unique personality and is there from time to time.
even SS Zelda was going into some trails and other stuff.

TP Zelda has no personality or unique traits. if you changed the method of saving midna for literal anything else, it wouldn't change a thing in the story, that's how unimportant TP Zelda is, she's barely in the game AT ALL.

>It had a great story and the arysyle was wonderful,
lol it didn't

>go back to playing a superior game, one literally everyone agrees is
Oh no

You can really tell which faggots in this thread are still seething over this morning's thread that shat all over BotW.

It's ok, Nintenbabbies.

Case in point. Take your ADHD meds or you won't enjoy a game like BotW, it's designed to filter those who are desperate for their next dopamine hit
I bet you can't see the irony, can you? Your criticisms of the game clearly lack nuance as well

I can't believe i'm agreeing with one of these

>The art style didn't wonderful

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Wind Waker, BOTW, LTTP, OoT, and Majora's Mask are the ones I've played more than once so that makes them the best IMO

>only argument is "nuh-uh" or a wild pendulum swing in the other direction
>You lack nuance
Irony.

>Take your ADHD meds or you won't enjoy a game like BotW
>You look around and find cool shit
>exploring for its own sake
>People in general like wandering around and finding cool thing
>BRUH JUST LOOK AROUND LOL
Take your meds sweaty, your ADHD is showing.

>AoL
>c tier
die a violent death

But OoT IS the best, what’s wrong with that?

you shouldn't post about games that you can't beat, simpleton

I did exactly this but I got bored because the boosted enemy damage just added tedium

>but having an story, immerse world AND gameplay is better than having just gameplay.
Irrelevant since 3D Zelda games all sacrifice gameplay for the sake of story and immersion. Hence, people who like the 3D games often don't like or underrate the 2D games while people who like the 3D games often find themselves disappointed with the direction the franchise went.

>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords evidence for being an underage b& shut the fuck up sperge nobody cares

Nigger I hate lttp and this is just flat-out false
That godawful fucking ice dungeon was certainly not just "beating every enemy in the room"

Not going to read that post, but ALTTP is easily my favorite 2-D Zelda. There's just so much to explore and the gameplay is just fun. It also has great music and the artstyle is pretty good. I don't understand why people dislike it.

No, Dungeons in 3D Zeldas are the same or even better as 2D zeldas, and that's where most of the "gameplay" comes from.

I never understood this complaint. Did you never, not even once, accidentally (or on purpose) press the A button in front of a tree after getting the hammer?

people don't dislike it, is just not as good as other Zelda games.
I personally think is too basic, but it excels on his own objectives.

>it's too basic
It made more complex use of multiple-floor dungeons than most of OoT's.

Dungeons in 3D Zeldas are fucking terrible and are nothing like the dungeons in the first three Zelda games

basic != complex.

>comparing Zelda 1 and dungeons with any other game in the franchise
lol, what a retard.

and 2* i fucked up

ALttPs dungeons are really just an advancement of the dungeons of Zelda 1 but with the mana from Zelda 2. They are similar. OoT and the subsequent games were very different.

i agree with you.
but Zelda 1 and 2 aged like milk.

Go get it then

Zelda 1's dungeons fantastic examples of exceptional game design if you weren't a retard you'd know this. 3D dungeons are only impressive for introducing lots of interactive mechanics.

>and 2
Git gud.

don't get me wrong, they were good... in 1986, they pale in comparison with the rest of the franchise.

Zelda 2 suck ass, it may as well be the worst Zelda game, is like they forgot how to design videogames, dear god.

Any reason to play old zeldas in 2019 or does BotW improve on everything? Never touched the franchise before.

>Zelda 2 suck ass, it may as well be the worst Zelda game, is like they forgot how to design videogames, dear god.

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cheese!

I beat Zelda 2 a about a year ago for the first time. I was surprised by how well it holds up. It came off as the sort of game that gets better the mroe you play it. I think that's why people who have beaten it regularly since it came out love it so much. The first playthrough seemed like it would be the worst playthrough. If it were to get a remake I bet it would be held in high regard by more people.

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Breath of the Wild is pretty differnt from the "standard" zelda games. OOT, TP, WW, etc. all focus more on dungeons and linear story quest instead of a large explorable world. As you acquire equipment in zelda you can retrace steps and open up smaller areas, but the main focus is puzzle solving in large dungeons. Try OOT or TP for a feel of the generic formula and see if you like it

BOTW is currently a black sheep along with Zelda 2 in my eyes. It's way different from all other 3d Zeldas and nothing like the 2d ones. Unless you just hate games that weren't made in "current gen" you may enjoy them.

I'll try and put it this way. I wouldn't compare BOTW to any 3d zeldas in the same way I wouldn't compare a 3d Zelda with a 2d one.

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i agree that Zelda 2 needs a remake. with some improvements it could be a good game.

BoTW didn't really improve on much. It's closer to being a new interpretation of the series than anything. It's like they took two steps forward and 5 more back. That's why it has so many references to Zelda I. With that said I'd recommend Wind Waker HD if it ever gets ported to switch. It's where the para-glider came from.

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change Alttp for MM and i agree with you, deal?

I could see it. MM is a damn good game.

>don't get me wrong, they were good... in 1986, they pale in comparison with the rest of the franchise.
No, they are timeless. There's an elegance to the design that has never been matched since. Having rectangle rooms with one possible portal on each wall and then one possible secret entrance turns out to be a really great building block for a maze. It allows for just enough decision-making to require observation, and logical thinking in a game heavily oriented around combat. You can have completely blank walls with no visible hints about whether you can bomb a hole or not. You can reward players for finding better paths through the maze without forcing anything.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy the ALTTP dungeons too, which have an enjoyable complexity of their own, but some of that elegance is lost. By Ocarina of Time dungeons are more focused on showing off new 3D mechanics.

why isn't skyward sword at SS?

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

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Absolutely fucking based

What IS so special about BOTW? It's just a typical sandbox full of muh freedom.

not bad

Why are people today riding OOTs dick so hard? I mean back when it first came out sure, but in 2019? There's better games, fuck nostalgia

Prove me wrong. Honestly who even cares, this shithole can't agree on anything.

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You put Skyward Sword awfully high but aside from that, yeah

>Zelda 2
>D
fucking casual

I can't wait to bomb some dodongos

>Link's Awakening in S tier
fucking based

Its just not good, user. Being able to beat a poorly designed game doesn't make you cool, it makes you a faggot that has too much time on his hands.

Link's Awakening is not that good

>lttp is SOO much better than oot!

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Nostalgia of Time is one of those shit overrated games that have been surpassed but nostalgiafaggots still cling to it because "muh it was good back then"

Just like SM64fags

pretty good tier, but I would change botw to S tier

It's like the best one up until BotW, the fuck you on about?

>dur game too hard, therefore it's poorly designed
care to explain why it's poorly design? the only major problem I see is that it starts you back at the beginning every game over.

botw doesn't even HAVE music aside frmo like 3 forgettable tracks.

based

>Great Game
aLttP
>Okay Game
Wind Waker, OoT
>Didn't Finish
Majora's Mask, BotW, LoZ
>Never played
The rest

zoomers everyone

Guess what dipshit? Back then when the game was new and ALL my friends were playing it, we discovered it by accident, then the secret spread like wild fire. Its not like a single person was going around trying to burn everything everywhere.

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