Monster Hunter

crit draw not any good on the faster monsters?

It could be OK but that's pretty boring and probably weaker than just using a faster weapon since World is so TCS centric

I'd say it's IB territory
Frostcraft's interaction is still unknown, which may or may not stack with punish draw assuming there's a deco

But they nerfed the first two levels of TCS while boosting literally every other charge of GS.

Is he cute?

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ugly as fuck

Cute croc

Open your mouth

>mfw trying out this new axe power mode
>LITERALLY A CHAINSAW ON A STICK
I'm officially changing my religion to grugislam, Ryozo has shown me the way

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So is GL still slam and explode or are charged shots/shelling now worth?

Damn I will gladly let you nerf Foresight slash if the tradeoff is the LS getting the Iai sheath thingy, that shit is fun as fuck

Depends on the interaction with the wyrmstake exploding repeater
If the 5 shells from slamburst all counts on the repeater then that
Otherwise chargeds

Where the fuck is Shrieking Legi?
It was one of the first to be introduced, and as a Variant, and then literally nothing after that. No one even said anything about it - the hunt, story spoilers, nothing. Is it really nothing or Capcom thought they fucked up by introducing Variants early and is trying to cover it up by introducing everything else?

I still can't figure out the window of invul frames with the spirit slash, not the 2hit but the nothin personnel one
is it as you rush forward?

You get more mileage out of charging each shot/wyvernblast/wyrmstake but full burst is still the way to go until you're ready to cap off on the stake or blast.

Haven't really tried it out much but it's a really tight window, from what I practiced it is as soon as you press the button, if the hitbox touches you as you are already going foward you are gonna get hit.

The nerf isn't even that bad or at least it hasn't affected my foresight slashes much. Iai sheath is very useful since it allows you to combo off spirit finishers and helm splitters. There's also the spirit regen effect as a bonus

After spending quite some time with Velkhana (fucking kusomon), I'm not surprised that the top time is by far SA.
But that doesn't mean SA is OP now. It's just the Velkhana fight. Being a kusomon Velkhana has the issue of being faster than your attack recovery animations. BUT ZSDing her head is safe about ANYtime she's not doing the charge. All of her breathe attacks and tail pokes or anything else she does doesn't knock you off, like the old monsters would. ZSD on the head is just super safe on this fight for some fucking reason. Hence SA being the undisputed leader in kill times.

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>Tfw all these weapons got a new move
>Lance only got clutch counter
I mean flying across the map like spiderman is fun, but I wish we got something else. Doing lance for more than a few hunts gets boring.
Also is powerguard worth using ever?

Is that why no one use it? On paper it looks like a nice damage when you just finish helm breaker and prepare for monster counter attack.

January

Januaray 2020.

This is legitimately the reason I went out and got an Xbox One X and MHW.

I agree, but LS now requires a modicum of brain so it'll filter peeps out

Gross. You better plan on playing other shit with that new purchase.

That could be the big reason, I suppose if you know you might get hit after a helmsplitter or a roundslash and can't roll out of it you could sheath and try to i-frame it, but it's probably very situational.

Maybe Ive wanted to play the Fable games again desu

Also just remembered the sheath benefits from quick-sheath, so it might be easier to abuse with some kind of meme build

>frostcraft
>punish draw
>other memes
PSSH

NOTHIN

PERSONNEL

EVERWYRM

There's no iframes, but you get superarmor and reduced damage briefly right after you press R2. So you have to counter JUST before the attack reaches you.

Oh, so that's why
>mfw that one darkside dude complaining and pinning a tweet about this exact thing demanding capcom has to fix this broken 'muh iframes'
And the say TA isn't a form of autism...

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>Also is powerguard worth using ever?
It's literally the only thing you should be using.

The chip damage on this move is really tiny, if you time it perfectly, so it might as well be iframes. But the window is pretty tight.

You also don't lose a spirit charge level when you get the counter timing.

There's also superarmor on perfectly timed triangle iai attack, even though it's not labeled as a "counter".

>muh nerfs
>muh buffs
>muh TAs...
And people say World didn't kill the franchise

Explain

What more could you even do with a lance? It just pokes? Unless they wanna go crazy and give you a pole vault shield slam but that’s what sword and shield have already

Power counter can be aimed and does more damage, better for sniping weak points

Zignore chin spikes fill me with autistic race

>listfag got so btfo in his own clutch claw bait thread he threw a miniature tantrum and left the thread to die
kek

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Capcom knows that no one cares about Legiana so they don't bother showing her.

This kind of shit has been going on waaaaay before world. Only difference is that it won’t be as broken as GU was

I faced that situation so many time that I lost count, sometime there's not enough time to do another foresight slash when the monster hit twice. I always wish there's a move that have smaller time frame for counter. Sheathing while faster than making 2 foresight is still quite slow for some faster monster move.
Nevertheless, It may need some more tuning but I really like the added moves, definetely add some decision making to the weapon, constant foresight and helm braker is quite boring.

I dont remember this much shitposting when they added valor in XX. What happened?

People weren't nearly as obsessed with it as they are now

I always thought the chin spikes remind me of Anubis for some reason

Listfag happened

TA was a mistake.

That doesn’t matter, its the same shit but now to a bigger audience

Why are you so obsessed with him?

GIVE ME LEAKS

OR GIVE ME DEATH

IT'S A FUCKING WEEK AWAY WHERE'S THE SANDFROG WHEN YOU NEED HIM

WHY IS THE SECURITY SO TIGHT

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from time out to finally kill it in only 5 hunts, i can only get better from here

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I’d ask the same about him with world

Here's your leaks bro

Anyone still following the trophies? Anyone got platinum or other notable shit yet?

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The bing and the wahoo.

I have a buddy that has the copy but according to him, he cant play because Iceborne is digital, including the master edition

I beat it on about 6th try in a group which had 2 hammers a hunting horn and a bow, and the hunting horn got a gem

GREETINGS HUNTERS
IT IS I, GREAT URAGAANDROME
COWER BEFORE MY MANY ARMS AND LUSCIOUS, FLOWING HAIR

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To continue on that. I think the only ones that can leak it are reviewers, which we only got one guy and he fucked off

Any leaked copies wont mean shit because it will be locked till release

They remind me of tuning forks. Zignore has lot wrong with his design but it can be forgiven like Rathalos elf ears and side mandible things. From a design standpoint the new world monsters are better visually beautiful all their parts have a purpose, gills on odogaron to help it breathe in the vale, tobi fur for static electricity etc. Old world ones just seem to have random shit kinda tacked on that don’t really do anything or just seem kind of awkward when looked at again. There’s a lot of small changes that can be done to old world monster to make them look better overall. They only monsters that I care about to give big changes to are zignore and to completely redesign Diablos because it’s obvious they wanted a bull triceratops in first gen but we’re limited with skeletons so he’s a flying wyvern, but with what we have now he really should change because those lil numbs on the ends of his wings wouldn’t be able to dig through shit even sand

Not true. Power guard can be outclassed by a regular guard with enough levels in the guard skill.

To be fair, I (lance main) only noticed this when I was playing against AT Nerg. His big dive attack would eat like half my health in chip damage when power guarding, but barely any against a regular old guard. Level 5 guard and Guard Up yeah but still, I lost a lot of runs against him due to power guarding before I figured it out.

Power guard seems to be the best for multi-hit attacks like Vaal's miasma cloud as it lets you take a lot of hits at minimal stamina cost, while regular guarding and counters might be better for big boy big hits.

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go eat a seed ugly

>Surfer dude Uragaan

Its just one week.

>pathetic.jpg

NO IT'S NOT JUST ONE WEEK
IT'S 7 DAYS
168 HOURS

All i ask... Is what Guiding Lands actually are..

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legiana was mentioned in the story spoilers, i just never bothered translating it because it wasn't as interesting as the elder dragon stuff.

i assume it's just that variants are less visually interesting than new monsters/returners/subspecies. you can look at pukei or paolumu and immediately tell they're different, but legiana is just a slightly buffer legiana.

OH NO GUYS A BAZELGEUSE JUST ENTERED THE THREAD

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>Always needs ice-makeup on at all times
Heh

I don't want to do this, because I know I'll get bored and not want to get it on PC by January; on the other hand, all the fancy shit of IB might just make my PC explode, so I might have to if I want to play the game anyways.

Life is hard, man.

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With Garuga's cinematic being him slapping Jho, I'm expecting this to be another monster's intro where it beats up Bazel

Guiding lands is the great maze.
Elderwyrm is actually tabuu.
You were playing smash bros all along.
Ending reveals that brachydios is one of the DLC characters for smash ultimate.

if he planned on playing other shit he'd have bought a ps4 instead

Do it faggot. IB is going to be goat

IT AIN'T ME, IT AIN'T ME

>Just finished Velkhana for the first time even if the time was shit
What are you thoughts on the fight Yea Forums?

Just beat Velkhana with my noob friend.
We had 8 seconds left, feeling pretty good right now.
LS still really fun after the nerfs, I couldn't even feel the shorter i-frame window on the Foresight Slash.
Endless combos with the new Iai Slash feel pretty good too, especially when the monster is downed.

WHERE? I can't even poke against that bitch and always timeout with GL.

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They just tweeted that pc release has been moved up to late November this year, apparently the team started on the port a lil before schedule

Should’ve been a griffin

twitter.com/gunlancehaiizo/status/1167464272483405824
Sadly the guy didn't record it

>Ending reveals that brachydios is one of the DLC characters for smash ultimate
Now this would be based

But then I have to go through World's base story, and that shit sucks. I think I'll have enough to keep my attention before it comes out. The Switch is backloaded this year.

I can't find anything on that. Source?

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where!! source?

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>Thursday night grillin and watchin da burrs with da boys
>Took off Friday to play IB with said boys
Fuck, it should be illegal to have such a comfy weekend

If gunlance turns out godly in IB I'd be happy for them. Gunlance deserves something good.

it'll be velkhana and people will bitch about them adding yet another sword character

His gear
I'm very interested in how he chains his combos, does it even incorporate the new moves?

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You can do it user

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If they ever do that it’ll either be a generic hunter, a cute cartoon version of a palieco, or way out of left field nergi that stands on two legs

I already did it with SnS though which I desperately wish was fire or something to test with Perfect Rush.

Deviljho Is perpetually starving
Yian Garuga is perpetually insane
Bazelgeuse is perpetually pissed off

Post more Tanzia Girl pls.

Brachydios is perpetually best monster

I beat Tigrex in World beta. Im not very good at the game so felt proud. Now onto the Velkhana

Good for you, user. We'll make a man out of you yet.

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You liked the fight?

>Velkhana its retreating to its nest
>Attack with everything we can
>2 minutes later motherfucker its still alive
>Time out, quest failed
How do you kill this piece of shit? How many HP does it have?

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I'm betting it involved a lot of shoving velkhunt into a wall whenever she wasn't enraged, that sperg is too mobile to even shell properly.

>couldn't even give us a PC beta just to make up for the delay
fuck Capcom

A lot more than he will in the game. Capcom always does this with the Betas. Also you're wearing armor from the beginning of MR, sooooo

15 minutes is very much not enough time especially with shitty demo gear.

Can someone clue me in on why everyone hypes Styx weapons out of the upgrade trees available for Luna weapons? I see a lot of people shit on the other trees but I really want to go Ruin with a health augment to make myself harder to kill.

Somewhat. It did a 2-bite attack so much that it started being predictable. It's moveset seemed small overall. There was one part where the ground started caving in, so I got aggressive thinking it was gonna fall in but it hit me twice while recovering from that. My Palico revived me from that which I guess is a new thing

He's got a 7'18" fight uploaded in youtu.be/FXzXnORgztA?t=596. It seems like he just slaps a wyrmstake blast onto velkhana's face early and burst fires as much as possible. He gets hit a lot here so I could see him hitting a low time after he gets good at dodging.

Probably has something to do with how Razor Sharp/Spare Shot is one of the best skills in the game. Also, the health regen from Ruin weapons is trash

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Absolutely not. In fact, more often than not, your best guard is a guard step. Having said that, there's a place for cancel counters, powerguards, and even regular guards.

>full burst + wyrmstake blast into Banbaro's legs, reload, repeat
>poor fucker just cannot stand up

That was pretty fun. I wish the stake trigger wasn't so picky on regular shells, though.

I figured on its own it might not be great, but with an augment and the right jewels couldn't I mitigate the need for sharpening and figuratively make myself near impossible to put down barring insta-cart tier attacks?

Capcom utilizes artificial difficulty (shitty gear, inflated HP, low time limit) to make their uninspired flagship monster feel harder than it actually is, as an attempt to make it look better in the eyes of retards who don't know any better. The same happened with Nergigante in the demo and, when the game released, everyone saw it for the joke it was.

People still have trouble with Nerg though. He was designed to be a newbie killer anyway.

I'm really hoping Bazel gets a cool subspecies/variant that they've been keeping under wraps and they haven't just left him out to dry

I can't wait to fight Brachydios in a game where he can't area transition seven goddamn times in a row.

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I may just be a caveman, but how do the iai slashes work? I know the triangle slash starts generating spirit similar to the helmbreaker. But isnt the r2 slash supposed to also be a counter if timed right? I get fucked every time i use it through a monsters move

is the charged axe mode on the switch axe really short or am i doing something wrong?

>those faggots that quit the quest after a single cart
>those niggers that disband the entire quest if you get within 100 feet of Velkhana upon first sighting
What the fuck is wrong with these losers? Is it autism?

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All this time I never knew brachydios has claws. I just thought his hands were explosive stumps

>charged axe mode

You mean amped sword mode?

>Velkhana is just AoE spam
>It even has roar to hit combos
So this is the power of nu-Monster Hunter...

>>those niggers that disband the entire quest if you get within 100 feet of Velkhana upon first sighting

what? why?

Jokes on you, now he can abuse that ingrained memory you and other old brachy hunters have of him doing so to run to a different area, stop, and whip around to clock you in the jaw because you pause for just that one second expecting a load.

>c-clutch c-c-claw is bbbbbbroken
>iceborne is ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bingers playing it TACTICAL. Pretending they actually played the beta and that they aren't watching zoomer streams to find something to shitpost about.

Mate, fuck off and stop pretending you ever played a single other monster hunter before world.

Not sure, I guess they were butthurt because they thought I was trying to hit the monster instead of set down barrels or something. Fucking autists.

he probably means the new axe mode buff from iceborne

luna+nerg tree is really trash unless you are playing a weapon that can prock the healing stacking mechanic fast enough like db, ig or sa.
If you want to protect your virginity from monsters and play a cancer build just go the full gala set, slap on it guard jewels + shield up and put everything else on health, medicine or protection and damage and pick a good lance you can augment with health.
Your dps is going to be shit but you are guaranteed immortality and you can get clapped by the monster's insta-KO moves and shrug it off like it didn't happen.
Also don't forget to switch off some decos for miasma protection or heat guard if you are fighting vaal or xeno.

sneed

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I JUST CANT FUCKING KILL VELKHANA BEFORE TIME IS UP!!! WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO HUNT HER IN LESS THAN 15 MINUTES?
I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 2 HOURS, I'VE PLAYED WITH JAPS AND SHIT AND I JUST CANT FUCKING MAKE IT

Velkhana's design has definitely grown on me.
She cute.

>WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO HUNT HER IN LESS THAN 15 MINUTES?
Git gud. Also CC and bombs

perseverance is they key to mastery
git gud fggt

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAA I DID IT SUCK MY DICK YOU FUCKING KUSHALA SUBSPECIES

Who are you quoting, little jimmy?

Velkhana is male

>nerf saed
>buff axe
>nerf clusters
>buff piercing and normalshot
>nerf bow elemental bonus
>buff elemental for other weapons
>buff stun for hammer
>buff dps for HH, GL, IG

I'm loving these balance changes.

Okay don't laugh but I've seen a ton of other GL users somehow aim their Wyvern's Fire blast upwards at tall or airborne monsters and after 1500 hunts and 600 hours I still don't know how to do this. I've tried differen't buttons to aim it upwards like that but I just can't seem to figure it out. I've been playing since 3U and exclusively GL at that and I have no idea if that feature is new to World or not. Can someone please tell me how to do it? Normally I just time my blast to line up with a moment where I know it will hit but not all monsters present such oppourtunities.

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>that new zinogre theme
holy shit why was worlds music so fucking bad

Hold L2.

start it then aim it like it's a ranged weapon (LT or L2 and move the camera)

I know the stab from guard aims upwards, I don't know much about GL so I'm not sure if that's what people do though.

I'm trying to hunt Velkhana using solo axe mode for Swaxe, but it still doesn't seem very good despite the buffs.
Oh well.

Why are the little monkeys immortal

>prooves
Why do you keep using that word? It's dumb.

I'm pretty sure SWaxe without CC>ZSD is a bad matchup as all your attacks have massive time commitment and she recovers almost instantly from all her attacks.

Thanks guys, much appreciated

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>Okay don't laugh
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA WHAT A I only learned that you could do that 1000 hours in

Seems like it. I just don't like spamming clutch claw, it's not fun.

that was made before zinogre was revealed, its not lagi

its a him, iceborne devs constantly refer to Velkhana as he

>She
Nobody te-

Too late

Which is why AT Nerg exist and is the pinnacle of monster hunter fights, plus velkhana is hardly uninspired and is a really good fight even if you took away the time limit and bad gear, cant wait to see how they'll AT him to make him even more challenging

You can also sidestep from neutral by holding R2 and L2 and hitting the evade button.

you're supposed to spam the claw, it defeats velkana easily

>i don't want to
enjoy being shit then

Alright, I killed Malekhana
Now what

I wonder what you SAfags will do when that shit gets nerfed

You either move on with your life like a normal person or become an autistic speedrunner and try to kill it over and over again for no reason.

>Which is why AT Nerg exist and is the pinnacle of monster hunter fights

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I thoroughly enjoyed the argument you provided.

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>I wonder what you SAfags will do when that shit gets nerfed

They'll go back to being low tier.
Without Claw -> ZSD, the weapon has no defensive options and average damage output. So it's just mediocre then.

No thanks, I had enough of a taste of the speedrunner experience by killing him
I genuinely don't understand how they don't kill themselves, it's miserable

Since most speedrunners become trannies or become super depressed faggots who need to constantly get the best time for their brains to release dopamine or they get borderline suicidal, it isn't hard to say that they are killing themselves.

Wow that's actually really cool, however I tried it again in the IB beta and it seems to be a lot harder to do now because your character tucks the GL away if you press aim for too long. It can still be done but it feels clunky now

AT Nerg is fucking easy as fuck m8.

Dont kid yourself.

you are prooves?

Outside the claw spam, Velk is surprisingly fun to fight. Anyone else feel the same?

I’d like to be the one that starts this although it’s pretty obvious: let’s shorten “Velkhana” to ‘Elsa’
Also anybody have an image or link to the weapon changes? I need to know what they did to GS

Source of Ryozo calling it a him.

No. Too many AOEs, same boring Kush whack the head skeleton.

The fight is too dependent on the RNG of what attacks he throws at you. Which is why Claw is so effective because it makes things consistent.

Im not going to ask for prooves because thats retarded but so is thinking that just because you're good at a fight doesnt make it an amazing fight. I never claimed AT Nerg was the most stressful, or the hardest, I simply said it was the pinnacle of monster fights.

Only with certain weapons. Personally it's hell for me when I use Hammer or GL
Actively hating the stupid ice ledges that he leaves around

People keep talking about clawspam but what weapons is it really optimal for?

>I’d like to be the one that starts this although it’s pretty obvious: let’s shorten “Velkhana” to ‘Elsa’

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Use google and look at them talk about him, im not going to spoonfeed a faggot who has access to the internet

If you're using something slow it's absolutely miserable beyond comprehension but outside of that and the retarded timer I guess it's nice, the obligatory "stop attacking me and watch" giant aoe is a bit too much though

GS got buffed.

monsterhunter.com/update/mhw/uk/ver10_10.html

Oh fuck, I never even thought of that. That sounds really unfortunate. Are there any settings to modify the clutch claw controls? I'm gonna eat so much shit if my neutral sidestep ends up being RNG in the middle of a hectic fight.

Its a peice of piss.

Theres been better monster fights.

Only SwitchAxe and slightly for bow since it keeps his head a weakspot for tons of DPS

Those are american speedrunners.
Jap speedrunners are chads.

I just killed her in 13' with IG and I found it fun. You can dodge her iframe a lot of hear beams pretty easily and the AoE you can dodge like Xeno's by moving towards the center at the right time. You can knock her out of the ice armor mode by triggering something but I can figure out what it is yet.
Also, I really hope Capcum nerfs the clutch claw just so people shut the fuck up about the thing.

>translated articles
I sleep.
Japs don't use pronouns like that, so canonically they haven't specified. I don't really take English translations as canon.

Refer to Speedrunners are all degenerates, don't let their squinting eyes fool you. American, Europeans, The French and Asians all have speedrunners that can be described by what I said.

SA and Hammer

>by triggering something
Call her fat

Good because you're never standing still. But this shit is getting on my nerves already: She fucking moves so fast and repositions all the time it looks like she's being instantly repositioned by an invisible hand. Looks artificial as fuck; AOES, fucking AOE spam out of the ass hitting you get boring fast; Fuck that tail hitbox, but it's great to see a kush not charging you to death.
But fuck it, it's fun as fuck while you're in the heat of the fight The time limit makes it even better

>all jap speedrunners are literal trannies
Nah, that's more of a western problem.

>The Japanese do not use male or female oriented pronouns when discussing things that are male or female
Weebs are actually fucking retarded

>it's great to see a kush not charging you to death
Chameleos

Whatever makes you feel better fapping to her(male)

Will the new combo and slinger burst let sns ascend into the Valhalla of "not shit"?

>her
and yeah Velk is a bunch of fun, best part is that he doesnt feel like a wet napkin and feels like an actual fight.

And yet whenever they refer to a monster like Rathian or black diablos they always say "she"
Accept it furry faggot, it's a male

God let's hope so Shield Drop spam is super boring

He's one of my favorite fights because of that where the fuck is he

They don't, unless they specifically refer to her as a female (like with rathian or black blos).

i can do velkhana as HH in a group perfectly fine but i'm struggling solo
send help

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Whoever designed that move is hopefully dead

Isn't sns pretty good as is? I thought it was just unpopular rather than bad.

>English translation
ok

I don't think they intended it to be so strong but then they realized no one was playing the weapon so who cares

Sadly I don't think so, if there are any settings they must be in the full resease because I can't find any. It just takes getting used to mostly but it definitly is not an improvement and it will require you to actively remember at all times that the clutch claw will activate if you press it too long which really sucks for now until it is locked into your muscle memory

DPS buff on GL is not great against all monsters, I was really struggling to find opportunities to blast stake Tigrex for instance, it seems like I'd have to commit to a trap to have any chance of getting it on him without eating a bunch of damage from failed attempts, which for a buff that lasts less than 3 minutes ain't great.

Plus it's greatest damage boost definitely comes from slam shell burst which also is not always something you have the opportunity for, particularly against an aggressive monster like Tigrex.

Really curious how the blast stake changes with Wide and Long gunlances, they don't slam shell burst as often or at all, so presumably the damage on regular shelling triggers must be better.

Has anyone experimented with view mode? Can you move the camera up and down to get creepshots of huntresses?

Hammer
IG
DB
SnS
SA

Those have the better clutch claw attacks. Specially Hammer.

>user scared to take the ice dragon cock

I'm not huge on massive ice AoEs and constant iceblight but at least it's not as unfun as Lunastra

>What are your thoughts on the fight Yea Forums?

I like it. It kind of reminds me of Seath from Dark Souls. I like how it uses its tail like a rapier.

>claw spam
>ig
wot

WHERE IS THE GARUGA VIDEO RAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO

>Chain stunned banbaro with the thorn ammo shotgun using SnS and clutch claw
Time for memebuilds

>did the same thing with GL + blast stake + slam burst

I get the feeling they tweaked Banbaro to be easily bullyable in the demo

I like it too

Not spam really, but IG’s got a really good clutch claw attack to just weave into combos.

I still don't like it. Everything else about Velkhana could be perfect and I'd still never get over how generic it looks.

>Chain stunning Banbaro with hammer
Hammer had barely any changes in Iceborne but by God are they absolutely perfect

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based on the original game there's zero reason to think they nerfed monsters for the demo

which is weird because supposedly banbaro shows up in all areas or at least more than just the hoarfrost, even though it's a t1 joke of a monster

Supposedly it's tier 2 but it's still pathetic

Them being japanese doesnt stop them from being degenerate

I thought Banbaro was supposed to be hard?

If your first videogame is Iceborne maybe

we're too busy playing video game, go fuck off and play sims

Big snow Barroth shouldn't be too difficult

But chainsaw CB was introduced in MHXX?

i'm not particularly good at monster hunter but the previous beta i beat him and beotodus with zero issues. narga i think i fainted once, tigrex i timed out twice before giving up.

i'm like 99% certain he's not a t2 since iirc he comes before the t1 subspecies, but if he is t2 he makes even legiana look strong.

Only in a hunter art :/

Nope
Use Powerguard if
>The attack is multi hit
>The attack is going to hit you from the sides/behind (Guard Dashing backwards is also a nearly 360 degree block by the way)
>You need to turn in place mid combo (or mid counter, i.e. to stab a charging Diablos in the ass on the way by)
>If the attack DOES NOT have high chip damage since Powerguard negates the chip damage reduction of the Guard skill
>

what do you think velkhanas super move will be? its eh difficulty wise right now except the time, but if he gets a crazy special that could change shit. i think he will use it after he makes the ice clouds.

I managed to beat it: unga bunga+clutch claw>ZSD+clutch claw.

Overall, an ok fight. Though the AOE attacks are annoying.

Yeah, but on such a short cooldown that you could use it a lot. I preferred the Energy Blade though for the big dick slices.

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He already has one, it's the gigantic wave aoe that he sacrifices his ice armor for

Isn't the giant AOE attack of icy walls that explode its super attack?

how the fuck do I fight nerscylla? I feel like I'm missing something

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nergigante didnt have the divebomb in the beta, everyone thought his wakeup dunk would be the worst thing about him

Be very aggressive and chase it down whenever you can, but don't leave yourself open with gay anime combos.

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Just stay underneath her

get above if its a double layer map
avoid the stinger

how do i use the claw on lance without it being clunky and sluggish, i watch fast kills with lance and it seems faster there

Same, I never used CB much in Gen (Used it alot in 4U and World) But when i did, i loved using that giant knife of a hunter art to slice through parts like butter

They wouldn't put Barioth in without also including mah boi, would they? I mean he's basically confirmed now, yeah?

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But he did, I remember people bitching about it

He's probably in yeah

Hate to saw it but we need to remove the SA, GL, LBG and HH from the game. They're just inferior versions of pre-existing weapons and totally pointless bloat. Learn to LS, Lance, HBG or Hammer/be a totally useless piece of shit.

Speking of which are we getting Jade Barroth now?

AT is a shit mechanic and i hope it dies when the next game comes around

>Spam sns clutch claw for shits n giggles on velkhana and to test dragon pod
>It stops dropping pods on the second area
What the fuck, those things run out? Velkhana's timed fight suddenly became 2/10 borefest instead of dragon mine bonanza.

They already said ATs are dead

I don't understand how the horizontal ice beam works. Sometimes it hurts me, other times it doesn't or it just gives me iceblight.

He did. People complained about how anything in the line between him and his target was in the hitbox regardless of height.

They did not. They said they haven't decided whether or not to do ATs again for iceborne (regular tempered is confirmed in), but that it'll depend on feedback.

nah im pretty sure he didnt i would remember it because it would have probably been impossible to dodge in wildspire waste.

his worst attack was the combo where he launched you and then slammed down as you were getting up because a lot of people didnt know to lay on the ground.

Guess the only downside is you can't use Peak Performance with it since I think it counts when the attack lands and not if your HP is full when the animation starts

There is nothing cheesy about AT Xeno, Teo or Nerg, and Kirin/Kush/Vaal to an extent. They have very clear strenghts and weaknesses you can exploit, they covered a lot of Teo's weakness in his AT and gave him some pretty solid "get off me" attacks the monster desperately needed. AT Kirin/Kush/Vaal are just their normal monster that are less succeptable to being cheesed. AT Xeno is a straight upgrade from the original monster, making it feel more like the epic frantic bossfight it was supposed to be, its a shame that Xeno wasnt like this already. AT nerg is also a straight upgrade, turning him from a spiky punching bag to a monstsr you actually have to be careful around and focuses way more on his mechanic. His new slam is great for punishing people who cant stop doing super unsafe moves like SAED all the time and it has a really tight hitbox, at least I personally never used evasion up. Luna was shit before and after and Kulve is also better. Overall most ATs didnt change a whole lot but the ones that did made them actively more engaging fight with very clear strenghts and weaknesses you shouls learn and abuse. If you had trouble with them the problem is your approach, not the monster.

I just ended up whacking it with a hammer, but it's kinda tricky to actually land hits on the head. Should I even bother going after her spikes or whatever the fuck? Forgot to mention I'm playing 4U.

Its almost sad that people dont like AT's, i guess when the monster actuall fights back people start realizing its just them that sucks at the game

Oh boy, can't wait to see it assraped by Tigrex.

I like them

>the obligatory "stop attacking me and watch" giant aoe is a bit too much though
You can roll into the center ice pillars just as they explode and the rest whiffs around you. It's like Xeno's AoE
Or tackle through the first wave with GS for a free True Charge to the face

If regular Barioth doesn't get assraped by Tigrex then Sand Barioth sure as hell won't either

It will assrape both of them.

I'm pissed since I cant do the ones i really enjoy anymore since the events are all over.

Shut the fuck up Tigrex

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It's just the last hit of SnS' Shoryugeki III from Gen turned into a normal move
I would've rather had the upward hit instead though

Bitch, do i have to call Garuga to put you in your place?

The normal Stake absolutely blows through the Blast's charges but good luck hitting the same exact spot twice.

>Thinking Garuga won't also skullrape Tigrex
Garuga takes orders from nothing

It had KO buffed and monster status resistance scaling doesn't seem to go up at the same rate as their HP in multi anymore and that's all Hammer needed

Wtf is this ban on hunting shit? Ive been living under a rock for a month

I want to suck on his tongue.
It kinda looks like a sour chewy candy

The move so bad that people opted to use Shoryugeki II just to not have to deal with it?

it's not nice to lie man

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>hammer can now get more than 1 KO in multiplayer

Shit's gonna be so good.

Except Hammers. Sit down, fucko.

Just a shitty twitter translation

Velk is alright with Hammer but I can't use Lance and GL quick enough
I suspect everyone is gonna run Evade Window now though, and, good god, is this ice shit going to be cancer with Tempered

Failed five times in a row.
Fucking ice dragons.

Really? I never played SnS so I never heard that. Not surprised considering the uppercut was usually a guaranteed first KO if it landed.

>Thinking that he won't be updated with anti hammer technor

The actually hit box on his ice blast is pretty tight which is nice. When he's doing his aerial ice rings you can stand between the second and third and be fine as well.
The only really bad one is his sweeping ice beam.

Evasion +1 was really common on G Rank sets before so I can see people taking Evade +3 all the time in Iceborne if they can fit it.
Velk will probably be less annoying for Lance in the real game with better armor.

>velks tail stabs in the ground after being cut
cool

Probably not. They hinted to an anti velkana build, so it's probably going to be a piece of cake in future.

You can also stand between the first and second, it's the same as AT Xeno's big radial explosions really.

Glav did it first

He's all head. What are they going to do, get rid of his whole head?

...Imagine if Vaal just, you know, resurrected a Garuga after we cut its head off. Surely they would never be mad enough to do such a thing.

Glavenus was the first to do this lmao

yeah i was wondering if it had been done before

glav doesnt make an ice tail prosthetic either when his tail is cut

not playing with friends

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Do you guys think GS would be in a better place in terms of its playstyle in World/Iceborne if they had given it a running charge that could be chained into standing charges, like adept GS in Gen/GU?
Here's a vid for those who don't know:
>youtube.com/watch?v=KshF5hK9We4
You obviously wouldn't need to evade to trigger it so it would be something that could be done from idle/run or while sheathed. It wouldn't be as strong as any of the standing charges so it's not OP but something to make it so GS isn't just tackle/TSC spam. Or do you guys think GS is fine as it is atm?

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GS is fine. It just needs more than WYVERN IGNITION LOL

Hey J-Hoe, there's a fly on your nose.

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>>>>>>>>>>prooves
go back to fucking /mhg/ you elitist tryhard fucking cocksucking faggot whore

Mistranslation. NDA lifting

all i want for gs and have ever wanted is the side swing and up swing to be chargeable

GS is fine, it actually needs to use most of its moveset for the first time since MH1 but it isn't total shit.

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Thanks user. These seem incomplete though. I thought GS now had ‘True Charged Slash Super” if you hit with the wimpy pre-strike part? Zero mention

SnS is breddy gud, I like the new combo

It still does as of the latest demo. The patch notes are missing a few things in typical Japanese fashion, I'm surprised we've been getting proper patch notes at all.

Can I transfer my CEMU MH3U save to Citra?

yeah

cool, is it easy to do?

do palicos still have 100% affinity if using minus affinity weapon?

youtube.com/watch?v=W1fnl5T8FHM

Is Narga in MHW still fast like this?

nope, slow boring garbage just like the rest of world
a shame, really

Is Clutch Claw really overpowered and repetitive?

We'll let you know when the game is out

fucking faggot

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No. It's TA memes where the fag had a perfect run.
I've seen too many faggots get themselves killed CC'ing

No. Like everything else in the game, it's operating like it just got blasted with tranq bombs.

Allright hear me out:
just give wyvern ignition 3 more trees so one can be upgraded into an ice elemental lamborghini sword with that "frozen air" effect, another into a dragon elemental edgelord greatsword with glowing dark flames or someshit and the last one is just regular ignition but with better stats freed up fire elemental, 2 more propulsors and some plasma shit flowing inside it that glows while you charge it up.

And make all of three the best GSs in their own category.

So the anywer is yes if you aren't completely bad at the game?

Still a bummer.

>Constant backpedals and tailswipes
>Super easy to stagger and evade
>90% of the video is him turning left or right
>fast
You have to be a samefagging retard to lack this self awareness

I don't have a 3ds but I did have PSP and dumping stuff from it wasn't that difficult, so imagine it's not that hard. Just follow this: github.com/citra-emu/citra/wiki/Dumping-Save-Data-from-a-3DS-Console
You do need custom firmware though.

Will there be a unannounced invading monster in Iceborne? Will the Guiding Lands be an actual map or a big arena like El Dorado? Will poor Rathian have a rape and revenge movie character arc?

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>TA players
>good at the game
lmao

But the question was whether MHW Narga is slower which he is

do you have to own world on ps4 to play the beta? I have a ps4 but don't own world on it because of load times

Yes? It's the same.
Higher framerate so you'll notice more detail in animations but there have been frame-by-frame comparisons already which you could see if you left this echo chamber unlike

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Prove it.

Who are you quoting?

>watch video
>does literally 1 attack every 10 seconds
>spends a whole year turning around after every move
if anything the iceborne version is an improvement

Your Extremoth proofs?

I hate this nigger ice dragon so much. It's everything I hate in a monster. This is Luna 2.0 for me in terms of bullshit.

>proofs
go back to /mhg/ sperglord

Dude, Narga is literally almost floating in the air in you rwebm for a second. Are you nuts? He is obviously slower. He's also stuck MUCH longer after his tail attack.

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with people talking so much shit just to defeind EVERYTHING about World? Literally blinding themselves to the obvious.

Nice try team failside. Got another speedrun stream you're going to fail and reset for an hour?

literally not even the same, he's a lot slower and is vulnerable for like 3 times as long in world because the game wants you to feel so strong and cool
fucking cancer garbage game, what a mistake

Hmm okay. I’m just dying to know if there’ll be a “stuffed animal” item you can set up close to sleeping monsters so you can trigger the super and wake them with TCS+
Would be sick but I guess the regular TCS wake up is already huge enough.
Also
>charging for Palico vouchers
I thought they would back off of this bullshit but they doubled down. I think it should be limited somehow but charging to redo your own character seems skunmy as shit

>Higher framerate
>emulator 120 FPS
>MH4U ~45 FPS
>MHW on PS4 20 FPS
lol

So no proofs. Check yourselves.

Prove it. Do a frame by frame comparison.

Keep in mind his whole body will be a weakspot too because normies need pinata monsters. And you can even make his wings weakspots with crutch claw.

Are your eyes really that terrible that you have to risk getting btfo so bad?

>Will there be a unannounced invading monster in Iceborne?
I think a leaker suggested there might be one.
>Will the Guiding Lands be an actual map or a big arena like El Dorado?
Based on what little we know it sounds like an actual map, but I imagine there's still something else up with it (might be like the Everwood).
>Will poor Rathian have a rape and revenge movie character arc?
_No.

>defeind
When will people trying to shit on World learn to type? Is it really just third world pajeets who can't afford anything past a PSP as Yea Forums says?

So you can't prove it. Got it.

>whole body will be a weakspot
I didn't even think of this, what an absolute dumpster fire of a game
every fucking monster in world is just a giant weakspot
there's no thinking required for anything, holy shit I hate this game

>Go back to MHXX after beating World twice
>Pick up the Hammer
>Decide to give Brave another shot; never really got the hang of it before
>Realize several of the then-new moves are the same as in World
>Can actually land every hit thanks to the practice World gave me

Yes you are the best weapon EVER

I want to point out the MHW Narga is also G Rank whereas the classic Narga posted is Low Rank.

MHW Narga is a joke compared to Lucent Narga in MH3U. Not even comparable.

Go to a doctor.

Do a frame by frame comparison. Prove your claims.

Brave hammer is literally sex.

Watch Vaal Hazak Great Sword speedruns if you want a good laugh and compare them with Shagaru speedruns.

GS requires no precision anymore at all, you just grug into your TCS combo and can even tackle/dodge any time.

Yep, it's listfag after all. He just outed himself.

I think it's about time I start a new list.

The onus lies with you, retard. Everyone in the thread can see MHW Narga is slow and obviously stuck for almost three times the duration after the tail slam, lol.

If you deny it, you make a proof.

Call the mods. Rissotto faggu is back and Arch Tempered!
I haven't been in the threads lately and forgot his posting style

>shit, someone pointed out MHW Narga is slow and weakspots are all over the same
>QUICK, namecalling, this will distract them
Like clockwork.

>obviously at least four different people sharing the same negative sentiments
>pretend they're all one person
>pretend an opinion that differs from yours is automatically a rule violation

Antilistfags as mentally ill as usual.

How about you watch Xeno speed runs. Cherrypicking virgincel.

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>Headsniping a monster that turns into you takes precision
Jesus fuck boomers are embarrasing

>buying xbox for MHW

why? all the jap players are on playstation

>GS requires no precision anymore at all, you just grug into your TCS combo and can even tackle/dodge any time.
If you tackle through any AT you will eat shit, other than jump cheese it makes a lot more sense to do the other charges until you get them locked down

I could never get used to it; I've been triple pounding away since 2009. But in World you had no choice but to spam charges so now I know how to.

Time to replay all of MHXX

lmao what a seething fag

Don't bother replying to bait

That clip of the double tailslam is in no way slower than the original double tail slam

>Xeno speedruns
So 60% stunlocking because TCS is that overpowered and 40% grugging the legs and occasionally the chest?

Also GS speedruns are actually not saying much in World because of the high RNG factor that comes with long combos like TCS. The best TA videos are not even in any way, shape or form representative for your average GS run, even if you're a pro.

You will just randomly grug into TCS when fighting Xeno, usually against the legs like a retard and occasionally the chest. Head-sniping is dead. Precision is.

>if you tackle through any AT you will eat shit
The tackle gives ridiculous damage reduction and super armor, combine that with the rocksteady meme mantle and you're literally invincible on command with greatsword
not to mention, as I said, you don't even have to worry about weak spots anymore because every monster in world is just a walking weak spot
trash game

Lucent Narga is so much fucking harder than any other Narga tough. It's not a fair comparison.

Do you guys think there's going to be much shift in weapon popularity with iceborne?

I wouldnt but considering all criticism bait is never a good idea, my philosophy is that people are retarded until proven shitposting.

No?

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Maybe gunlance/switch axe going up a bit because of pre-launch hype even if they end up flopping.

Go back to your containment board.
>instant list/anti-list posting the moment this gets posted
I wonder why.

>LS doubled down on anime
Probably not, but GL and HH might become more popular.

Read the post chain and you know why.

You have never fought an AT monster and I can tell because anyone with a brain would never take Rocksteady and tackle through them since you would fucking die in 2 hits. Now that you've outed yourself as someone who has never experienced the endgame of MHW I can safely say you're shitposting because your favorite GS method is no longer as relevant as it used to be. Grow up old man, things change.

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gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/943356-monster-hunter-freedom-unite/40837495

Remember the vow we all took 11 years ago

reminder that mhw shipped 13 million copies and is the future of the monster hunter franchise and shitposting on Yea Forums is not going to change that

Is Velkhana's ice armor a mechanic or just a visual thing?

Why is it that only faggots on Yea Forums are STILL seething over World?
The rest of the internet has moved on and realized that MH has evolved for the better.

Only here we find people still pretending that old-MH is still relevant.
I used to play the games all the time back in the day but I couldn't even finish the Switch demo. Its obsolete.

When?

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It's not Yea Forums, it's mentally ill people from /mhg/ and discord shitting up the threads because they can't accept that people are having fun.

if you want it to be, it just feels like a gimmick everyone has imo. mounting and grapples are cool and get a pass from me though so im biased, i wish they would have dragons dogma tier mounting in monhun

Hey pard

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A mechanic. I didn’t pay any attention to damage it took when armoured vs unarmoured, but when unarmoured it can’t summon ice walls and all that other crazy shit, only the ice breath.

>tanking ATs with GS
Lmao sure bro

Remember to ignore and report listfag.

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Hopefully never because Attack on Titan is the big gay.

When it loses it's armor it's ice powers are weakened

Cringe

On SA yes, on every other weapon is just good.

I bet she has a fat, unshaven pussy with the right amount of hair

I've played the beta for like 2 hours before losing interest in playing it again

The new moves are cool and shit but absolutely FUCK continuing to hunt with this garbage fucking gear and 20 minute timer. NOBODY plays Monster Hunter like this, it's fucking ridiculous and stupid.

>People are unironically comparing a 60fps emulation of a psp game to a 258fps console game, without even taking into consideration that nargacugas moveset has drastically changed entering the new world
It isnt a case of him being slow you morons, since hes huge and the zones you fight him in are a lot more claustrophobic they had to get rid of most of the chains he would do to compromise

I completely agree, this beta completely soured my hopes for iceborne as a whole. It's too easy to spam crutch claw over and over again and get really fast times despite the shit gear. What a mistake of a game

Narga feels slower in World, but Tigrex has been improved a lot. No more headlocking and it doesn't spend half the fight repositioning itself. The speed is about the same, but the attacks have more obvious tells.

I still think monsters that charge a lot should have homing charges. I don't underetand why Gen 3 took them away.

>using antilist as an insult
fucking lmao

Not at all, it’s difficult to spam except in a very select few scenarios and even when you can spam it you’re better off just attacking normally. It’s actually a lot better balanced than I was anticipating.

I’m not any of the people commenting on it before, so don’t you shove me in a camp like /pol/But I do wonder about the combat.
From what I remember of MH4U there was a greater feeling of dread when going up against endgame bosses and missions. Like you had to “dance with” and “balance” monsters (if multiple) in your head and you better be ready. But MHW feels more “random”.
I bet that “randomness” adds to the unpredictability and “realistic” movememnt or whatever but it does feel like it take less skill NOT because the game is easier but because the capability to APPLY skill has been reduced.
Anybody get what I mean? Maybe that’s just my perspective from maining GS every game

Never, because they replaced it with an even angrier Skelejho

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I know this is late but yes, power guard is godly and you should always be using it. The main thing you need to understand is that it lets you deliver a strong or jumping poke in ANY direction. This is huge. Lance has always been about precision and this lets you stay on the weakspot at all times. Now you throw in guard advances in any direction and lance is more aggressive than ever before. Think of power guard as more of an offensive tool rather than how good it blocks attacks. Of course there's no knockback either which further lets you stay in the monsters face. Any lance main that's not a Worldbaby should easily see the benefits of it.

"""we"""

>havent played world in ages since my PS+ ran out
>be excited for iceborne and start it up again
>realize that I stopped because I failed the behemoth quest a couple of times solo and got pissed at the FF music in astera all the time
>try it again
>of course fail because I havent played it in months
>lose interest in iceborne as well
fug

Weak old man

ur big gay lol

>Using a GS in World

You poor bastard. Also I get what you mean but I don't think it's a particularly big change. Especially not when it comes to new monsters since you have no point of reference.

T. animeonly

>he doesnt play arena
anyone can sub 5 a monster with fucking amazing gear, skills, food buffs etc. but only people who are good at the game can provide similar results under restricted circumstances. face it, you guys suck

regular narga was never a hard monster anyway

vulture

Iceborne has a new hub which won’t have the FF music playing. Get Master Rank gear then come back and rape Behemoth later.

>face it, you guys suck
face it, world/iceborne sucks
get over it monster huntard fag

I dont know if anyone has posted this yet. But Zinohre in the highlands AND Diablos jumping out of the guiding lands in the cutscene of Zino and Rathalos fighting
youtu.be/jo6syFvMIyY

I'd agree if monsters didn't choose moves depending on how far you are away from them and if these moves didn't have telegraphs.

>Implying the arena skills are bad

It's not the same and you fucking know it

behemoth is my favorite fight in the game, I hope they make another FFXVI collaboration.

y-you take that back

Totally agree. There used to be hunts that forced you to go naked and with no items in your pouch. MH is a game about skill, not gear.

fuck off, shill

>So hungry he literally ate himself
>Undead made of anger and dragon energy
>Hungers for souls and milk

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Feathery pussy you mean

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FFXIV I meant

Aii big man

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no lol

If you hate yourself you can always just make an HBG and sleep/cluster that sucker. It's by far the shittiest fight in the history of video games though so I wouldn't recommend it.

why don't you like it?

Double tail slam is slower and Narga is stuck much, much longer that you can even get GS charges in his face when he was supposed to be a fast monster for fast weapons.

It doesn't even make sense since you are much faster in World so you'd think they'd make monsters faster as well.

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I get what you mean, but you can also argue that performing well in a less-scripted scenario (since, let's be honest, monsters are noticeably less robotic in movement and attacks now) takes the same amount of skill since you can no longer follow a set routine and instead have to work on adapting more as a fight plays out. I'd say they're different brands of skill and some players prefer the former while others prefer the latter.

She's not Samus

I think what you refer to is the general arcadeness that MH always had.
It wasnt dread that I felt, just arcadeness. It was bascially clearer and more a 1 and 0 kind of thing where you'd go "aha so now he got me with that so I will do this next time" and then you won
same with how "pro players" would deliberately let themselves be blasted into other areas to trigger and heal up.

I’m fucking crying and shitting my pants, I hope you’re happy.

thank you for posting this, now maybe capcom shills and world cocksuckers can finally see that their game is trash

This webm alone proves that all the MHW fanboys blindly defending literally everything about this game on Yea Forums shoul dbe put to death and a serious discussion about MH is impossible these days. They will just lie about everything, falsily, bullshit you and call you names.

Thank you.

does iceborne beta progress transfer to the full release?

>didnt respond to the content of what I said, instead sperging out to try and prove a point no one was talking about
yeesh

>arbitrary time limit
>weaker/non-meta armor sets
>weaker than average gear
>practically not the same as playing in the beta
ok

This is what I mean, you people think you know the fights but you don't. You wouldn't be able to do the naked hunts like back in the day, you wouldn't be able to do GQ 140 Yian or Rajang, you would just cart and blame it on the monster or the items when the problem clearly lies with you people.

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Make it happen, Capcom. I need Skelejho in my life now.

Isn't that the only slower attack?

i am lol
ur gay lol

>normal narga vs green narga
wait until the AT versions are out before judging this

Why did you link this video

All the fun of hitting the broad side of a barn and mixing bullets for 30 minutes. Hoping RNG doesn't take a lightning-shaped shit on your head too many times. What's there to like?

No because it doesn’t contain story quests or anything, but you do get item packs for each quest you clear that can be redeemed in the main game.

>different narga
>narga in world is stuck tracking someone else instead of (you)

>gets proven wrong
>b-b-but that's the only exception! World nargacuga isn't shit, I swear!!!!!!!!! Let me just move this goalpost real quick
faggot, World is trash and so are you

>first two posts are just low tier shitposts that use a difference in execution to belittle others
Yeah.. its the OTHER guys who are the bad guys here.

Thats a fucking narga sub vs normal narga, don't be a dipshit.

YOULL FUCKING PAY FOR THIS

Only in FU, until you learned how to use I-frames. After that the tail slam was the only thing that was dangerous, being most of the time a one shot

Funny thing is you even gave MHW Narga a head start and the MH3U Narga still overtakes him and finishes his attack sooner lol

World is for the Skyrim audience.

No.

>wait until the time-gated quest is out in half a year that's only available once every 2 months
Okay boy.

>muh colors
fuck off worldsperms

That move is nowhere near slow enough to spark as many spergs as it has throwing shitfests over it being slower. That move is literally like 2 seconds slower than it used to be.

they any good? or is it just standard shitty stuff

>Tigrex has improved
>Brachy has improved
>Glav has improved AND got a sub
>Barioth imrpoved
>Zinogre probably improved
>Narga is slightly worse
I can live with this

u pay
u gay lol

Thanks for proving my point:

>This webm alone proves that all the MHW fanboys blindly defending literally everything about this game on Yea Forums shoul dbe put to death and a serious discussion about MH is impossible these days. They will just lie about everything, falsily, bullshit you and call you names.

You are the kind of person ruining all MH threads with your bullshit.

user said double tail slam, Green Narga had it first and it's the same speed in MHGU. It doesn't even matter. It's faster. And MHW Narga is stuck MUCH longer, even before "tracking another player".

Are you blind or just a retard?

A cool moveset, a unique group fight that works as a MMO boss in monster hunter, hard fight, cool design, cool music, I also like the unique interactions like doing the dragoon jump to avoid the meteor.
I don't use range weapons tho.

I understand not wanting to deal with constant nagging all the time, but holy hell, then shut the fuck up about it, ignore it and move on, but why lie and pretend to be stupid lol?

Do you not realize that this move is just an example and the whole monster is slower and almost all monsters are slower? Barroth literally stops mid-animation before charging so even a toddler has ample time to run away.

Does Capcom literally pay people here?

Plus it's been nerfed to hell in other ways. Remember the hitbox in MHFU? It dragged you into it.

The naked quests gave you 50 fucking minutes and there's only ever 1 or 2 arena sets that are as subpar as the beta shit so you don't have to use them. You're full of shit.

>arguing over some attack length
are you all a bunch of fucking apes? fucking idiotic shit-flinging monkeys?

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>responding to /mhg/ insect's baits

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Shit, so MHW Narga really is a pushover? Narga still had the lingering tial hitbox in MH3U. I liked it.

old game good, new game bad, reee, stop liking what I don't like, etc
it's all so fucking tiring

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shh user let those boomers dream about better days of brain dead AI

So the first slam coming out faster and the second one coming out slower means the move is worst?

I didn't hunt it online. It's pretty telling when the most popular strategy is to put down a healing stake, put on a rocksteady mantle and then just sit there tanking hits while shooting at it. is it even a video game at that point?

>ask friend what weapon I should use to kick the shit out of Banbaro
>He says Hunting Horn
>"Pfff yeah whatever ok"
>Actually use it
>Mfw
Yeah, I think I'll take the Horn Pill

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You know G rank narga does the double slam as well in older games. You didn't use that? Oh i wonder why.

Hello friends, I want to get back into the game since I haven't played since release
should I pick up on my old character (HR146 i think), or just make a new character?

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The attack itself isn't even slower. Narga just gets stuck for an hour.

>old-MH nerds shitpost and samefag yet another World thread
Jfc this place is beyond help

Behemoth is literally one of the only good monsters in world. Had there been more like behemoth in care, moveset design, and uniqueness, IE not health pool, world wouldn't have ended up so mediocre with an equally mediocre roster full of flying wyverns.

Just fuck already

This, who cares if monsters are much slower and pushovers for casuals? MHW is perfect.

Gameplay doesn't matter. Let's talk about important things.

Both are slower and he is stuck much slower and all other moves are slower as well. But gameplay doesn't matter.

>jfc
>>>/tumblr/

And you suck at monster hunter as you have shown.

>worlsperm desperately trying to move the topic away after getting video proof that their game is for babies
pathetic

This is /mhg/, what are you expe-
Oh wait it's not haha silly me I can't tell the fucking difference.
You man-children COULD debate over it without shit-flinging, but I'm sure that's a foreign concept.

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If my memory doesn't fail me now, he doesn't do it. It was introduced by Green Narga and Lucent. And if normal Narga uses it, I'm 99% sure he is just as fast and I'd make another webm right now. Just pitch me a video. Ty.

Listfag absolute evaded the ban again. Maker knows why hasnt he fucked off to Cripplechan there yet.

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This is the best part.
All the other returning pretty much only received buffs so the shitposters can only point out a couple of narga moves from two months ago, or they wouldn't have anything to show

>MHWtoids talk bullshit and lie
>get blown the fuck out and proven wrong
>make 20 damage control meta posts
>"OMG WHO EVEN CARES ABOUT THIS? you are just like /mhg/, REEE"

every time lol

>Xeno with a pacifier
Cute, but I can't read moonrunes so I have no idea about what's going on.

What a fucking baby game lmao
who even plays this fucking trash

Hold the fuck up, why are you comparing the double slam and the single slam? Doesnt the double slam have a longer animation?

Someone verify this

Vid proved that MHW nargas slam came out first, which means its more likely to catch people off gaurd, sorry spergs

>I didn't hunt it online.
Did you hunt it at all? healing stake and rocksteady mantle won't carry you the entire fight. He moves a lot, hits like a truck, he casts those tornados so staying on the same spot will just get you killed. Are you one of those people that pretend they play MHW through watching streams?

I don't think those videos are particularly effectiv at convincing people that they are wrong. They prefer to stick their heads in the sand.

Anyway regular narga does it and in FU he changes the direction of both tailslams, making it really fucking hard to remember which direction to dodge to.

Green Narga's thing is that he can cancel the 2nd tailslam into a spin. Lucent is just 100% horseshit and I don't want him back.

might i ask, do you have anything planned for this friday evening? Or have you resigned to chain masturbating for the fifth weekend in a row?

Your opinion would have some validity if you'd actually played the game.

Is Khezu in?

Rewatch they're both double slam, but MHW Narg comes out first and Green Nargs second slam comes out faster

BING BING WAHOO

>Maker
You are the lowest of shit in the entire thread

Please keep in mind that there are a shit ton of people out there, and on this board, that literally only watch speedruns and assume that that's the ONLY way the game is played despite that fact that they've never touched it before in their life
Remember that these people don't understand that speedrunners have to retry the same shit over and over and over again, sometimes hundreds of times, before they get a perfect run where their spam method doesn't immediately get fucked on by the monster

I hunted him with honor, but the videos I saw online did that and then instantly move to camp to get the temporal mantle, cycling between two immortality modes while the other one recharges.

If I didn't need to prove myself I should've done that too.

>>Tigrex has improved
Yeah, he is absolutely golden now.

At this point I'm certain Capcom puts something in Yea Forums's water sources.

>>Zinogre probably improved
>literally saw nothing that indicates taht

god you people are freaks.

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he's been slowed down too

MHW Narga's doesn't come out first, the webms just aren't 100% in sync. MHW Narga got a head start and MH3U Narga still outspeeds him in the end.

>those hitboxes
jesus christ that is pure garbage
but wait, it's just like the old games
that MUST mean the the game is now GOTY, right?
Then why are you fucking hypocrites complaining?

Didn't know if anyone thought it would be interesting, with Rathalos and Diablos in the same area (granted its the guiding lands, but is this 1 big cutscene with Zino?) I'm no shill, i just dont think anyone else has linked it (could be wrong)

Just Arisen habits, I guess.

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>monster is the same - wtf why didn't they change anything
>monster is different - wtf why did they change it

>but wait, it's just like the old games
Not really. Never had any problems with Tiggy hitboxes, not even in FU.

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That's not a nerf in this case tho

Kill yourself
No dude. they do their start up animation at the same time, MHW comes out faster by a decent margin

>y-yeah, I n-never had any issues with tigrex before!
>posts a webm with no tigrex in it
cope harder, worldsperm

wow it's just like the shagaru I fought today in 4u

Holy shit you were completely right
Who cares what speedrunners do? It's still a fun and original fight.

???
>rocksteady vs at nergi
>grug sword or hammer with health aug
>draintank half of his kit
>die if you get caught ungaing too hard

Why are you expecting me to take this at face value by cherrypicking the decent hitboxes in a game known for shitboxes, also
>showing rajangs broken hitboxes
half the time they dont work like how they even should

>stand within 5m radius of kut-ku
>charge just hits because fuck you
woooooooooow

Pick up your old character, there’s zero reason to start again in World especially with the unstoppable cutscenes, and you need to have beaten the final boss to access Iceborne.

It's not all that surprising really.

Nah arena quest usally have some pretty shit armor with maybe 2 ok weapons set between the choices of weapons sets.

>showing the same move for 7 times in a row
Yeah, that move has a janky hitbox, we played the beta

So the fight is shit for a single bad hitbox in a beta?

they can do Midgarsorm and his sons, fenrir, ixion(aka buff kirin), ifrit, twintania, leviathan, bismarck, Archaeotania and maybe shinryu

It's pretty depressing to think about.
People watch these video and get the wrong impression, try to imitate it, get fucked because they don't understand that speedrunners have to retry repeatedly, stop playing, and then shitpost about it to make themselves feel better.
When all they need to do it take their time, learn the fight properly, and just try it out normally.

>No dude. they do their start up animation at the same time
No, the time I played the MHW webm MHW Narga was already preparing the attack while Green Narga only starts preparing it 0.60 seconds later.

Shagaru's hitboxes are nearly perfect, stop shitposting, MHWfetus.

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Fucking do it and record it, if not then shut the fuck up because that shit literally would not work and would get you killed in a heartbeat

>old tigrex hitboxes were perfect
>webm doesn't show Tigrex at all

>waaah I'm allowed to call everyting better and improved, even Zinogre when we barely saw him
>you aren't allowed to say it's worse even though there is clear evidence because it's still beta though
>waaahhh

>monster hunter world is easy - wtf the franchise is ruined!
>monster hunter world is difficult - wtf the franchise is ruined!

Not him but shagaru is shit because hes a fucking cakewalk, dont pretend like that monster is peak MH. AT nerg is way harder and doesnt rely on you dodging retarded mines to give you a sense of urgency.

Crazy how that works, right? Almost like what you say and the files you post aren't axiomatically aligned.

Was it autism?

Post yfw they had so use a subspecies because normal narga wouldn't cut it.
And then they had to post enraged sub against normal non rage narga because otherwise it wouldn't have cut it either.
And then they had to hide the fact that the attack is faster to justify the longer recovery.
TENDIES LMAO

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you son of a bitch, you know I can't record it now that the event is over.

Not even the person you’re replying to but
>rocksteady against AT Nerg
>get killed in 1 hit because the first impact of a move doesn’t send you flying
You can wear full drachen with max armor and max health drain and rocksteady is still a deathsentence. Nerg is bad enough. You’re talking TWO levels above that. Not tempered evn. Arch tempered. You’re fucking wrong
Also, why are people pretending that instakills are good game design anyway?

>, dont pretend like that monster is peak MH.
No one said that so I don't even know what you want from me or why you're moving the goalpost. Though I would disagree on AT Nerg being harder if you know what you're doing. The traps, the turf war and mantles if you want and not to mention ancient potion spam just eviscerate him.

THEN DONT POST CHERRYPICKED MHFU WEBMS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC MONSTER YOU DUMB NIGGER

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where's your video proofs worldsperm??

what should I do for relearning weapons?

You posted it for me

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such is life with the asylum absconds

What point are you trying to make, user? Are you still trying or did you give up? Do you need a break?

>waahh spoonfeed me on every subject
Some people here actually fought Tigrex back in the day.

It's not even funny anymore, We're just watching the sad cope of a dying sperg.

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>perfectly ported in terms of look and animations
>new moves
>Tigrex can actually do combos now
>less random charges against walls
>new AI that doesn't make him a retard to headsnipe to death

BUT

>hey guys this hitbox on this move is larger than it should be

Yeah, the fight hasn't been improved at all

Oh yeah, because Tigrex's hitboxes are known for being precise.

No it isn't.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UFseK_ksh28

If anything it's faster cause it doesn't spend the entire fight repositioning itself.

>World apologists get btfo every time
>just change topic or move goalpost
Why do people even try?

Just avoid MH threads on Yea Forums, they are containment boards for furries, shills and the lowest common denominator of gaymers.

To the instakill question the answer is dark souls getting casualized and going mainstream.
To the rocksteady argument, I can tell you that it's a shitty mantle and not optimal at all, but you can kill AT nergi with it because I've done it. so please stop being faggots.

I wanted to make a Handler thread but I cant!

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>too afraid to make his own video comparison because it would confirm that naga got neutered
just take the plunge

So the comparion didn't post an enraged sub narga? Is that what you are saying?
Facts are your enemy, huh?
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF TENDIES

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>moving the goalpost
I started off with im not him, you called the dude a MHWfetus like the monsters from world are incomparable in terms of hitboxes or difficulty, I can almost guarantee you started with fucking 3u or 4u by the way you talk
I fought tigrex motherfucker, hit hitboxes arent great at all. stop being a facetious faggot and provide proof to your claim

Yup, the shitty hitboxes outweigh your other things, glad you realized that.

>Oh yeah, because Tigrex's hitboxes are known for being precise.
You can always pot videos of his old hitboxes being as bad as the new ones.

And let's even pretend it somehow makes MHW better, comparing it to 20 year old games.

yo that would be sick. I honestly loved the MMO mechanics in a monster hunter fight it was super refreshing. shynryu would be absolutely massive.

There's another video somewhere that compares the two regular Nargas, either both in rage or both out of it, and it they are indeed the same.

do it user. ryozo is watching.

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Debate me on any topic you can and I will still win, because I play monster hunter and you are a faggot shitposter.

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>that webm
I'll concede your point, but then in this case I might just be shit because his explosions always get me if I don't evade regardless of my positioning, same with gore

Just finished the beta
My God, Velkhana is probably one of the best ED in the series
The look is a bit anonymous without the ice armor, but the fight is brilliant
No gimmicky stuff, just a fair and balanced fight with some cool elemental moves thrown in

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>stop being a facetious faggot and provide proof to your claim
I am supposed to prove that the sky is blue while your claim is it's green? Fuck you? Post webms of bad classic Tigrex hitboxes or kill yourself, you loser. I already contributed more than you and proved you wrong on Narga.

You also got btfo, stfu now.

I miss Shaggy

>GS requires no precision anymore at all,
>waiting for the monster to always have to turn towards you for almost a full second
>skill
>precision
Full fucking retard. Monsters don't turn like they're on a fucking revolving platform in World so you can't just DURR HURR CHARGE UP FORWARD AND WAIT FOR OBVIOUS TURN

hey you can't say that!! world is the worst!!! worst!!!!!!!!1

Except you claimed the sky is green and we are asking for proof. You said that tigrex had clean hitboxes in freedom unite and we are asking for the evidence that support your claim, learn how to follow a conversation line you dumb nigger.

This video doesn't even show his attack animations side by side. Every speedrunner says he is slower.

>Didn't pick a topic to argue with me about
>Claims victory
Sounds like what you faggots are used to doing, pick a monster hunter topic you retard

I liked the fight too, he had a ton of moves. The 15min fight makes it super engaging.

dude, I was agreeing with you. I'm just saying that watching the backflips people are doing to make World narga look slower isn't even funny anymore. It's just sad.

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But the only time that webm showcases hitboxes is when they duck under Monoblos. The other ones are just iframe abuse, you even see the player get caught on Rajang's arms as they hop through the hits.

Velkhana is a good addition to the roster unlike rathalos

>Just avoid /mhg/ threads on vg, they are containment boards for furries, shills and the lowest common denominator of gaymers.
ftfy

>And let's even pretend it somehow makes MHW better, comparing it to 20 year old games.
nice goalpost shift

Why is fighting Velkhana easier than Tigrex?

Velkhana mission is hard because of the time limit, now Tigrex is an unstoppable hit machine with insane hitboxes. It’s like AT Nergigante after he wakes up. Well, at least Tigrex seems to be very to KO and flinch.

>You said that tigrex had clean hitboxes in freedom unite
Which is a sky-is-blue proposition. If MH had consistently shit hitboxes, we wouldn't like it and Plesioth wouldn't be such a meme. I also posted several webms that showed good hitboxes in old MH games.

The onus lies with you. Post a webm of Tigrex with hitboxes as bad as the ones in MHW. Remember, though; you can also always just stfu.

>we
Yikes.

strawpoll.me/18562875/r
let's get any stragglers

hope u rike metal raths

>tfw no PC beta and will be stuck dicking around trying and failing to kill extremoth for several months
Fuck me.

Rajang is at least 40% a case of good hitboxes. I also don't know what's stopping you from just firing up your PSP emulator right now and fighting some monsters to see how good most hitboxes are.

>>we
because its not only me who's asking you, you dumb fuck
You made the claim, you post the evidence, the burden of proof has been on you since the conversation started

My 1 gripe with the design is the small bird face without the ice armor, with the large crown on its head, it looks bizarre, but cool im a way. And i dont like the "rings/circles" on the ground indicating its AoE attacks. I feel it should be hidden for people to learn "Hey when its not enraged its Aoe does 2 blasts, and when enraged it does 3 blasts!" Instead of showing "hey here is how wide the area you need to dodge out of is" other than that its actually a pretty FUN fight, even if itll go quickly in the full game. I like its arsenal

So your webm had nothing to do with Tigrex and less than 33% to do with the older games having good hitboxes?

>elemental boosted
>Namielle water dragon
I'm going to cause those fucks ceadeus pierce bow war flashbacks so fucking hard.

>If MH had consistently shit hitboxes, we wouldn't like it
Yan Garuga has broken hitboxes and insta charges which is absolutely bullshit, it doesn't mean people don't love it.
Khezu is probably one of the most boring fights in the series and it's uncapable of doing any kind of combo, yet many love it.

The same goes with nu-Tigrex, which we can appreciate even if there's one bad hitbox.