Just finished Platinuming this game, all in all I really enjoyed it but I had several issues with the game. Some minor, some big.
>Several of the re designs are hit and miss (Rebellion looks great finally but Sparda looks like shit, DSD is the most uninspired 'demon sword' design I've ever seen) >Compared to 1/3/4, has sub par audio and visual cues for just about every enemy >Has the most prolific "enemies start attacks just slightly in screen and hit you from off screen" shit in the series. You likely will not notice this during regular play but it's incredibly noticeable if you want to S Rank Hell and Hell >Enemy designs in general are good but have some glaring stand outs like Furys, Judecca, and Behemoths. Other than these three offenders the enemy design is solid, no outlandish offenders like Enigmas >Has more forgettable bosses than good ones but you can say this for most every DMC game, the genre as a whole actually >Playing as V was initially a nice change of pace initially but he quickly wears out his welcome >Cavalier R is objectively better than the base version but it's locked behind the Deluxe Edition >"Co-op" is so half assed, so luke warm it would make anyone question why on earth they even bothered to spend time and resources on it >Level design is fairly mediocre, compared to earlier games it's mostly just corridor after corridor with some slight branches here and there to find Blue Orb Fragments/Purple Orb Fragments >Bloody Palace is ranked yet again for no reason at all, locking you out of anything you got with the Deluxe Edition >No alternate costumes >Can't select any character on any mission even though it should have been a complete no-brainer
I could go on but that's most of it. Nero's great, Dante's great, V is meh, Balrog and Cavalier are my favorite weapons in the series, DSD looks like dogshit but has great functionality. If the series were to end here I'm glad this game is its send off and not fucking DmC.
Yeah DSD design is really a let down. What did you think of the story?
Kayden Myers
DMC5 is not the end of the series, Mundus still out there, dmc5 is only about bringing Vergil back
Oliver Murphy
Why do people not like Sparda's redesign? I personally like it and find it cool, the only let down is how it doesn't have the scythe mode, spear mode, sword mode switching that it needed to have.
Honestly I wish they'd make a huge DMC5 expansion that has all the characters fighting Mundus, and then the franchise could either end or DMC6 could be a Sparda prequel that's a kind of soft reboot.
Samuel Hill
Why do you want to end the series? Just let it continue on with what it has and improve on it.
By DSD I meant Devil Sword Dante. Though I'm not too excited about the Sparda redesign either. It just look too meaty and bulky.
Original Sparda design was still an organic flesh sword but it looked stylish, this just looks like a mess. Those teeth or ribs or whatever they are don't look too good either and the hilt and handle being skewed looks bad as well.
Levi Wilson
I know what you ment, I also don't like DSD much, but I can see getting a redesign that could make it better than Rebellion. I like how bulky and meaty Sparda looks, the bones on the sides make it look more organic and creepy, which I personally like. Old Sparda didn't look stylish to me so 5 doesnt feel like a downgrade.
Do you think they'll fix/address a lot of the criticism in a possible special edition? I feel that while the game was overall positive in reception, the community has been saying the same for awhile.
So now that he got all of his nightmares, what else is there to show? Will the manga go on till he gets back to being Vergil, or will it end with V taking Nero to Urizen?
>RG Balrog and KC turn furies into jokes >ragtime Shuffle/Rawhide is better
Austin Scott
>Balrog and KC turn furies into jokes >Shuffle/Rawhide is better Explain
Ryder Smith
not him but mash balrog punch cerberus revolver/ice age i havent had much success with shuffle but rawhide obliterates any fury in sight just by hitting the button when they attack
Josiah Wright
Balrog Flint Wheel to 100% parry then stun it KC Revolver/Iceage and stun with DT persecution
Shuffle has iframes, Rawhide is for spam around you.
Isaac Wright
Interesting. I'll have to try these out too, since there's nothing wrong with variety in a DMC game.
JG-ing the Furies feels so fucking good and makes you feel like a badass though.
Why do people not like Rawhide then? I've always thought it was pretty fun to use.
What I hate the most about DSD design is that it looks more like a Monster Hunter Nergigante sword than a Devil May Cry one. Sparda new design is acceptable personally, but the fact it lacks of the body of the Force Edge is a big detail they forgot and that's alarming in a sense.
Alexander Long
none of the breakers are really bad but some are way better than others. some like rawhide, tomboy and buster arm fall into that lesser good catagory
John Green
SNK vs. Capcom Card Fighters DS it says so at the top of the image
Austin Wood
>Why do people not like Rawhide then? I've always thought it was pretty fun to use. Kinda falls flat when you have bootleg trickster and quicksilver, rocketo punch etc
Nolan Smith
>buster arm Dunno it has a value even post fame It's damage is fucking broken and can oneshot mini bosses like Proto/Empusa Queen etc
Hunter Mitchell
>some like rawhide, tomboy and buster arm fall into that lesser good catagory Rawhide and Tomboy are 2 of my favorites. I love how both are basically another melee weapon.
>Kinda falls flat when you have bootleg trickster and quicksilver, rocketo punch etc Idk, Rawhide is one of my favorite whip/chain weapons in a game, because it's default combo is so stylish, it adds to Nero's moveset, and its Break Age is one of the coolest in the game.
Ryder King
like i said, all of the arms are great and have their own strengths and weaknesses but some of them are obviously better than others. to most people they get overshadowed by some of the others like punch line and gerbera since they have great appeal due to being an air dodge and nero hawk's proskater 5
Tyler Morgan
>DSD is the most uninspired 'demon sword' design I've ever seen Truer words have never been spoken.
Jose Smith
One of the easiest methods of dealing with Judecca enemies is to stagger and launch them, keep them airborne and then wait for them to teleport into the ground with their rising spin attack. As they do this, skystar away with trickster and use Cav-R redline to rejuggle them.
Never knew about this strat until I saw some japanese H&H no hit runs.
On break till 28th?! Fuck me! We were probably gonna see some juice flashback but no! Complains aside, if it is because the author needs a break than let him have it, i rather wait than seeing something half finished.
Angel Morales
This desu. Mundas coming back with Dante and Virgil kicking his ass is going to be KINO
Also Sparda being alive and being a grandpa to Nero
Carson Martinez
Easiest way for Dante is King Cerberus' charged forward+O Swordmaster move. It stuns them, knocks them down, and lets you rape them with Balrog for free.
Cooper Martin
For me they just made it too gaudy with the added jewels and made Force Edge's hilt XBOX HUEG for no reason at all. DMC1/4 Sparda's design utterly outshines it. However I do appreciate them trying to go for a "meaty" looking design to really hit home it's a demonic sword.
funny how every hairstyle fits vergil's model while in nero get's totally fucked up
Nathan Williams
Sparda is voiced by drew coombs but personally I'd rather if they kept him out of the plot, there are enough characters already that need to have more screentime and development and him being "back" out of nowhere would be a mess
Jacob Butler
V looks pretty traumatized in that last page, I'm really curious if it's going to be when Mundus attacked. Not sure why they're taking a long break but maybe the mangaka just needs a vacation to get future chapters organized?
>Not sure why they're taking a long break but maybe the mangaka just needs a vacation to get future chapters organized? yeah probably, since he didn't dissapoint 'till now than i prefer him to take his time and properly organize the next chapters
Jayden Sanders
There's like nothing of Force Edge left in that design.
Luke Gomez
The gaurd?
Nathan Davis
Are you blind? The gaurd is right there. And DMC1 Sparda replaced Force Edge's blade part for bones and had an different longer hilt.
Laser Sword Dante looks better than what they ended up going with.
Jace Hughes
Man these just look way overdesigned. If this is all they can think up then it doesn't make me hopeful for any new weapon designs.
You know now that I think about it, none of the weapon designs are particularly interesting or innovative in DMC5. Balrog is just Gilgamesh but with shoulder pads and Dr.Faust is just a hat with a scarf. Only Cavalier looks interesting, but its design is pretty much a take on a Batman motorcycle. The rest is just slight redesigns of old weapons.
Devil Breakers are just robot arms with pretty standard techy designs, none of them are cooler to me than Devil Bringer. V just gets a cane and a book, not the most exiting weaponry there. Though familiars are interesting, they are again just redesigns of old enemies.
DMC3 and DMC4 were way better in this regard.
Jayden Price
>wanting to remove Dante's summoned Swords he'll feel worse afterwards, he needs to have them. DSD just needs a redesign that makes it look more like Rebellion. I miss Sparda though. nah, I prefer if we have a blade instead, not a fan of lasers. it just needs to be slimmer and a skull shaped gaurd with it's "awakened" form having the skull with an open moth.
Who the fuck did they hire to design this shit? These look something a teenager bored in math class would design.
Jacob Watson
>Devil Breakers are just robot arms
And Rebellion is just a sword with a skull crossguard, Cerberus are just blue nunchucks, Nevan is just a purple guitar, Gilgamesh is just Beowulf with a mask
Landon Wright
>Has more forgettable bosses than good ones This was my biggest problem with the game only King Cerberus, Cavaliere Angelo, and Vergil lived up to 3’s bosses Goliath and Artemis were alright I guess but the rest were so mediocre
Cameron Sanchez
That's called "brainstorming", user.
Cameron Russell
it's the same artists for DMC2 ,3 and 4. it's probably just Itsuno telling the artists to make it a big sword and to male it feel fitting for Dante's SDT.
>Balrog is just Gilgamesh but with shoulder pads Balrog is nothing like Gilgamesh, what drugs are you on?
>Devil Breakers are just robot arms with pretty standard techy designs All the breakers were designed by Shoji Kawamori. They're straight up mecha porn.
>third from the left's hilt would look like wings on Donte's back Okay, that's cool.
Sebastian Johnson
Artemis is still one of the coolest weapons ever designed. So mad it didn't come back.
Aaron Fisher
>that size comparison with Rebellion What idea did they have in making DSD fuckhuge? Is it because it goes along SDT?
Brody Garcia
that second one looks sick
Jace Foster
It's literally Vendetta from DMC2.
Jackson Phillips
That page has a typo. Dante and Trish didn't appear in VJ2, only in 1 and only on the PS2 version.
William Russell
Shotgun is boring because it's sounded like shit since DMC3. It has no sense of power or impact anymore. It's more useful in DMC5 than it was in 3 or 4, but it just sounds like it's shooting paper now.
I had a feeling someone might say something like this. Yes I'm generalizing a bit but I think you misunderstand. Sure breakers transforming is cool and all but the base designs kinda look like common machine parts or realistic arm prosthetics. Now you may wonder what's wrong with that, but this is DMC. I expected powerful, beefy looking robot arms, maybe with some demonic parts mixed in, something more abstract. Also the hand parts look small and the breaker details get lost during combat.
>And Rebellion is just a sword with a skull crossguard Yes but it's classy, same with Force Edge. Simplicity is what makes it striking. DSD could learn something from them. Also I was talking about new weapons not old.
>Cerberus are just blue nunchucks What makes Cerb unique is having 3 sticks. Seems simple but it's not a small thing.
>Nevan is just a purple guitar It's an Axe-Guitar with lighting strings
>Gilgamesh is just Beowulf with a mask You're underselling Gilgamesh here. Beowulf has big paws that don't have any fingers with smooth black surface and big vein like lines, not much in common with Gilgamesh besides being the same weapon type.
I know you're trying to ridicule my generalization but if I went in details, we would be here all day, just look at this post.
Now all of these are well designed and I don't doubt the artist's skill, but can you really look at these and say "Yeah this belongs in a DMC game", it feels more likes it's something from a futuristic robot game.
>Balrog is nothing like Gilgamesh, what drugs are you on? It's rather similar in concept, silver metallic knight boots and gloves with bunch of smaller glowing lines and scale like structure. Yes Balrog has eyes but they aren't a prominent feature and the animations do nothing with them either. You can't honestly look at Ifrit, Beowulf and Gilgamesh and say that they resemble each other in designs.
Those bones sticking out and the more meaty look with those tendons make it look like you could cook it and eat it.
That was never a thought in that crosses my mind with the original. It looked organic, like flesh, sure but not meaty. It looks like a spine while the original looked more obviously demonic, and you see how these tendons are attached to the blade and the way the thing curves on pic? They look like they could snap and the curvature makes it look unsturdy. It makes the whole sword feel less like a sword and more like a piece of meat with a piece of metal attached to it and a handle.
It's just not as formidable or impressive looking. It doesn't look like a sword that expands and changes form, it looks like a muscle with bones sticking out.
It also looks like a snail, tongue or a dildo ?more like a piece of meat with a piece of metal attached to it and a handle. You pretty much nailed it here.
Yeah, the weird hilt is all it has, now if its whole blade was spine like or had saw like look I wouldn't call it like that. Also rebellion had multiple iterations throughout the game. From classiest to outlandish I would say it's DMC2-DMC5-DMC4-DMC3.
Jack Flores
>or a dildo That is one odd looking dildo. Is it for anal or for her urethra? Or am I just looking at it backwards?
>can you really look at these and say "Yeah this belongs in a DMC game". What, does Pandora not belong in DMC now because it becomes a laser or a missile ship? What about Red Queen the bike sword?
There's nothing wrong with the breakers. None of them are particularly futuristic, they all have simple ideas behind them. They don't clash with the modern setting of the game.
>You can't honestly look at Ifrit, Beowulf and Gilgamesh and say that they resemble each other in designs. Beowulf is exactly "silver metallic knight boots and gloves with bunch of smaller glowing lines" and nothing else. Balrog has a completely different silhouettes to Gilgamesh, is colored differently, has a different gimmick, has different animations (something Gilgamesh doesn't have), and is on fire most of the time.
I've S ranked all missions/all difficulties, judecca are annoying as fuck, but you can parry behemoth charges with nearly anything, and if you score a parry of any kind on fury, you can just trick over to it, do the balrog knock up, then punch it to the ground, and just wait 1-2 seconds, and repeat. For some reason, if you try to follow up with another knockup before waiting a little bit, it will teleport, but if you don't, they'll sit there and let you stun them.
V was a pain in the ass and I disliked how a few of the missions (mission 10 in particular) the best and most reliable way to S rank them was to just take no damage. Mission 10's ranking system seems monstrously broken, in fact. I went from 6700 style points in the first encounter, killed all enemies with an S rank in the second encounter and somehow it went down to 4800.
Other than that, though, all the quality of life stuff is incredible. For example, the fact that Dante can move after charging Drive and shoot it in the fucking right direction is incredible.
>Sparda looks like shit, DSD is the most uninspired 'demon sword' design I've ever seen Agree, fleshworld sparda doesn't look as good as I feel they thought it'd do. Its old design in HD is all it needed to be honest. Final DSD is pretty boring and ugly when compared to the concept art we got. >Compared to 1/3/4, has sub par audio and visual cues for just about every enemy Really? Like what specifically? I feel empusas and pyrobats don't have the greatest of tells but since they're empusas and pyrobats it doesn't really matter if they do. Antenora glows and has a metallic screech before going berserk, lusachia makes glowy things appear before every spell, fury has like 4 teleportation patterns, what clues are subpar out of the enemies that matter? >Enemy designs in general are good but have some glaring stand outs like Furys, Judecca, and Behemoths So you don't like enemies that teleport out of your way, but then what about lusachia? And what's bad about behemoth?
Evan Sanders
Glad I’m not the only one who thought that when I saw DSD
Aaron Flores
Why couldn’t any of the bottom four be unlockable costumes?
James Hill
>I expected powerful, beefy looking robot arms, maybe with some demonic parts mixed in, something more abstract. Most of Dante's guns are just that: Guns.
>What makes Cerb unique is having 3 sticks. King Cerberus is even more unique as it does something ingenuous with the triple nunchuks.
Because.... I don't know, for some odd reason ever since DMC4, the devs forgot about alt. costumes, they didn't even make any costless costumes like 1 and 3 had, which would've been the easiest thing to do. It just doesn't make any sense. Lack of budget maybe?
Vendetta deserved better than being stuck in a shit game with a shit movepool anyways. Considering 5 had a trend of taking stuff from 2 and making it decent (flambat/pyrobat, goat clan/baphomet), I'd be all for it if DSD just happened to be a spiritual vendetta rework.
Robert Hughes
Speaking of which, what is the gameplay difference between Kalina Ann 1 and 2 ? Which one should i use if i want to use just one.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
There's no difference. I think you they give separate style rankings so you can have both. If you have DKA you can plant KA2 on the ground by holding left on the d-pad.
>DSD I mostly agree, I think it looks great when paired with SinDT but it looks awful when normal Dante is holding it. They should have made it more a mix of Rebellion and Sparda as its base form and had it change to the big ugly look when he turns SDT. >Furies, Judeccas, and Behemoths Great enemies imo. They force you to exploit certain weaknesses rather than letting you approach them the same way you can approach nearly every other enemy, and in a game that has such a vast and varied toolkit I think we need more enemies like that, not less. >level design I feel like they saw the backlash against DMC4's backtracking and responded by going too far in the other direction. Having areas of the city spliced into the Qliphoth and it working like Mallet Island or the Temen-ni-gru where you revisit some locations but they change as you go and have different enemy setups would have been cooler, and allowed for more branching paths and cool shit to find. >alternate costumes I will never understand why they didn't just scan the dudes without the coats on at the very least.
You have seen this picture before and this is the reasons why. This is how they get models into the game, Dante with a coat was scanned and if they wanted to make coatless Dante they'd need to scan a coatless dude. They even scanned real demons, that's how the RE engine works. I jest but enemies are not animated to the level of player characters, they choose they choose the method of simply scanning reality into the videogame but the drawback is that making new models mean making new clothes in real life.
Buster is unironically the best one and a lifesaver in dmd Also lets you 1-shot furies before they have the chance to even attack
David Butler
>if they wanted to make coatless Dante they'd need to scan a coatless dude But then why didn't they just take the coat off the dude?
Carson Hernandez
>devil arm is called dr faust >its devil component is a mephisto finger, not a faust finger This tickles my autism, but I guess it's more a reference to the actual faust and mephisto story than to the demons themselves. Still wish it was called mephisto tho. That would open the door for non-elite common enemies getting weapon versions of their own in the future if 6 actually happens and the devs are mad enough.
Easton Perry
How hard is it to remove a coat and scan the man? They even had some rando wear Nero's clothes and they scanned him in, it's that simple. They 100% could easily do it.
Jose Sullivan
How did Nico even get the thing? And doctor faust might not be the same as a regular faust, so it might not actually be a lesser demon devilarm.
Aiden Bell
Get the fuck out of here. The Shotgun has always been good and is the most fun it's ever been in 5. I don't think people realize how OP the Shotgun was in 3 and in 5, you have shit like Cut-In. I honestly wish they gave it another move, because it sorely needed something else new. Same with E&I.
Noah Lopez
While most breakers hold a strong functionality aspect which makes the game easier for you, be it high damage, crowd control, slowdown, high guard break, manoeuvrability, etc. Tomboy is an unwieldy slut you need to get good with and is there solely for looking cool, and that automatically makes her best girl.
>Same with E&I. They have everything they need >shoot a nigga >shoot a nigga hard >shoot a nigga fast >shoot a nigga faster >shoot a nigga from above >shoot two niggas at the same time
Dominic Taylor
>What about it? It's extremely fun to use, has mobility, gives you i-frames, and you can even charge the Shotgun during it.
>They have everything they need Me and another user agreed a few threads back that they should've had a Bayonetta/Tomboy-style OTS shooting mode. Like, that's what Honeycomb should've been. Maybe the Shotgun should've had something similar too.
Wyatt Bailey
this, every game needs a boomstick of it's own. would be cool if they gave a 360 directional input for E&I like in Bayonetta too.
>How did Nico even get the thing? Realistic answer is "dr faust is cool so it doesn't matter how she got the finger". Autistic answer is that I assume they're playig by 5's logic that 99% of a dead demon just vanishes, but the hard parts like horns and pointy fingers that can make cool weapons just lay around like debris. So Nico probably just grabbed a mephisto finger that was laying around when she visited the fortuna ruins. A million of them came out of the hellgate in that one cutscene, so a few fingers should still be around. >And doctor faust might not be the same as a regular faust, so it might not actually be a lesser demon devilarm. I can't read most of what the pic says but as far as the few english words in that sketch go it seems she just stuck a mephisto finger and a polished red orb together and that gives you red orb magic somehow. So yeah the only thing it got from faust seems to be the name.
Nico was continuing Agnus' research from the files Nero let her see.
Grayson Gomez
>they should've had a Bayonetta/Tomboy-style OTS shooting mode I would agree were it not for the fact that I find Tomboy's gun attack to be super hard to aim.
>Maybe the Shotgun should've had something similar too. Coyote should've had auto-charge and cut-in as a back-forward input. It makes no sense to have it locked behind gun stinger with how complex it is.
Joseph Hall
Of course they could do it but they need to get the machine running again, maybe they lacked the foresight to scan naked people. Please sir get naked for the porn models please, "i didn't sign up for this", please sir get naked and get scanned. I work in this field so i know it takes an entire team to process photogrametric imagery, it's costly and takes time to get the workflow starting up again after being left cold like i suspect they did. I hope they do i want to see more outfits. Things would have been different if they had chosen to model and rig the characters from scratch but that's not what they choose to do and it requires other skills, other people and it might be even costlier to do that by now.
Oliver Phillips
The bottom ones are great designs for a villain. Especially the 2nd and 3rd from the left. >becomes a laser or a missile ship Their designs are unique enough and certainly don't look generic. For example the Pandora laser looks like a cyclops head. >What about Red Queen the bike sword? That does admittedly look like something from FF, but the Alto Angelo versions look better and fit with the game's setting. >Beowulf is exactly "silver metallic knight boots and gloves with bunch of smaller glowing lines" No. Beowulf is black, has big lines and paw like ends without fingers. Ifrit has black dragon heads, bronze arms and fingers ends are round, no lines just horns and flames. Gilgamesh is silver, has spinning sawblades, scale-like surface with sharp finger ends, lots of glowing tiny holes, face mask, back wings, injection spike and exhaustion system. Balrog is silver, with scale like surface and sharp finger ends, has shoulder pads, eyes and a lot of tiny glowing cracks.
Sure Balrog is not Exactly like Gilgamesh, but from afar they look similar enough except one glows red and the other glows purple.
>has a different gimmick, has different animations I wasn't talking about these, just designs.
>Most of Dante's guns are just that: Guns. True, but I still like E&I designs and the shotgun is admittedly simple but inoffensive. >King Cerberus is even more unique as it does something ingenuous with the triple nunchuks. Yep. I wanted to say it spawns ice which is rather cool, but I run out of text space. >It transforms into a scythe. I forgot about this, shame on me. But it further adds onto the point that Nevan can't be easily generalized without being disingenuous.
Look, to cut the long story short since we could biker like this forever. My problem is that the only new interesting Dante weapon in 5 is Cavalier, though I don't like how it's mostly colored black. Nero's arm designs look weak and I dislike them.
Aiden Fisher
>I find Tomboy's gun attack to be super hard to aim. Same but I'm going to git gud with it eventually.
>Coyote should've had auto-charge and cut-in as a back-forward input. It makes no sense to have it locked behind gun stinger with how complex it is. Coyote absolutely should've had auto-charge. I was actually kinda mad that it didn't have it. It makes charging it up such a fucking pain even though thankfully, Lvl. 3 charge doesn't take that long. I'm fine with Cut-In's input as it is but back-forward would've made more sense.
Blake Young
Haven't played it for awhile but would like to go back to it again. Is there an actual strategy in getting S ranks in hell and hell mode now? I remember people saying it was next to impossible on release.Or does it require you become a DMC God still?
Samuel Martinez
>Of course they could do it but they need to get the machine running again That doesn't require much, you just turn the thing on, and they could've just done it when the machine was on. And are you saying literal models are ashamed to take off their clothes?
Does anyone else feel like the enemies are particularly sandbag-y in this game compared to previous iterations? I feel like I can just sit there and combo on most enemies without them breaking out or other enemies threatening to stop me.
Hard mode fixes this a bit by changing enemy placement but the low level goons are still worthless
>Their designs are unique enough and certainly don't look generic. This is a different argument.
>Beowulf is black Beowulf is silver or grey. It looks darker by the contrast with the light lines.
>I wasn't talking about these But they're a big part of how the weapon appears. It's particularly important with Balrog because of its two different modes.
>the only new interesting Dante weapon in 5 is Cavalier, though I don't like how it's mostly colored black It's grey. But I agree that it would've look better if it were purple or somethin'.
And I disagree on Faust: it's a really ingenious idea and fun to boot.
Balrog is nothing spectacular design-wise but it more than makes up in functionality.
"machine" user, the "machine" i meant the entire line of production from the studio people to the guys checking the input, the guys correcting the fuck ups, the guys making that data into a workable model and the guys rigging that model to be actually in game. I think they just didn't think about having the dudes remove their shirts, they didn't take that into account. By the way my work's not with people models but i work in correcting the fuck ups department, risk of automation = 100% but we're not there yet.
>Balrog is nothing spectacular design-wise but it more than makes up in functionality. I agree with this so hard. Beowulf and Gilgamesh both looked so much better but Balrog is probably the most fun gauntlet weapon in the series although I do miss charging my punches.
Thomas Morris
What about in the future when they need to make a different outfit? How dumb do you have to be to not scan a coatless or shirtless version of the model for future use?
Justin Murphy
haha very funny.
Julian Green
>tfw mode-switching clicks >tfw you realize you can JC mid firestorm for infinite air kicks >tfw IGNITE THE FLAME hasn't gotten old after half a year
I think 5's enemies' problem is the lack of ranged attacks outside of the designated ranged enemy types. In a group of cainas and antenoras, you can just lift an antenora up in the air and do whatever you want with it without any of the others ever being able to do anything at all to stop you. A simple "boomerang scythe" or "butcher knife throw" attack would be enough and really help them. Empusas could spit blood or something. Then there's stuff like behemoth and fury that are good without a range attack.
Asher Davis
I'm stronger.
Christian Mitchell
They could just scan the model and use the same rigs as the base model. Mods are an example of how it could work. There's barely any reason to not have alt. costumes.
Caleb Baker
I have yet to really git gud at switching modes but JC-ing Firestorm is so fucking good.
Grayson Sanders
The life of a weak human. >shit i'm in boot mode >back input >lunar kick out of there SHIT >jump, dive kick puts me on the other side of the mob >lunar kick in the other direction FUCK
>Beowulf is silver or grey >It's grey Alright, alright, it's "dark gray", still not close to Gilgamesh/Balrog colors >it would've look better if it were purple Yeah I thought the same >but it more than makes up in functionality. I can't argue with that nor I would. The weapon really does offer a new way to play. Though like said, I still wish we got another gauntlet weapon with chargeable punches. >And I disagree on Faust: it's a really ingenious idea and fun to boot. True it's a neat concept, but it feels like a gimmicky bonus weapon you'd unlock after beating the game, or find it after completing some kind of a challenge, kinda like in Bayonetta. It's fun to mess around with but I don't think it can match something like Lucifer or Nevan as a main weapon.
This is besides the point but the way you get it is kinda disappointing too. When I saw it in the trailer, I thought Dante is going to do a sick dance once he kills some big demon. But instead Nico just awkwardly hands it to you, then Dante touches his crotch a few times and there you go.
Anthony Reyes
Yeah, sometimes I accidentally divekick when I'm trying to switch to Punch Mode or something. It's something that I'm learning to get better with.
You have to understand gays are the fear, they viciously molested us as children.
Elijah Robinson
>Please sir get naked for the porn models please Nigger it's taking off a coat, not getting naked, and since you've already got the entire lower body and head all you'd need to do is sort out the shirt area (or in V's case bare torso area) and you're done. You're acting like it would require a ton of work and it quite clearly wouldn't.
David Morris
Help. How do i stop only using gerbera
Blake Gutierrez
crimson clooooooAAAAAAAAAH
Andrew Clark
>Level design is fairly mediocre That's being generous.
Since i'm still here. There is more work involved than just taking pictures of a guy, it's more complicated than that. It takes a consequent team of people to go from there to in-game model inside your game. It's probable the game devs were not even present to give directions and nobody thought a game would need alternate outfits, plus they're not going to produce data which could be irrelevant like a shirtless model, they can't go around scanning things for fun it's business.
Easton Thomas
>Look mom I posted it again!!! Fuck off, this image is retarded and you should feel bad
Nigger all they had to do was plan it ahead. They are not so disorganised or incompetent that they couldn't just say, "Scan them both with the coat and without the coat," nor were they so poor or lacking in time that they couldn't take the few extra steps needed to implement them. Matto-san oversaw the scans himself, he mentions in the CC podcast it's one of his jobs as a dev1 producer, that's why he's a zombie in RE2, it's not like they just tossed it to some third party to do it without specific instructions and someone there to make sure it all ran right. As you say, it's a fucking business. >plus they're not going to produce data which could be irrelevant Yes they do. For RE2 they scanned a whole bunch of things and people which didn't work out as planned, one of the localisers is a big dude called Miguel Corti and they originally scanned him planning to use him as a base for Mr. X, but scrapped the idea since it didn't really work out how they wanted it to. They recycled his model for the sheriff who gets bitten in the gas station at the start instead. Scanning is cheap as shit, that's why they favour it over modelling from scratch. You're talking shit.
Wyatt Young
a new style for dante that gives him disposable weapons from weak enemies
William Johnson
These don't look up to standard and are not capcom approved. They're just mods.
Bentley Stewart
thicc
Daniel Carter
Anyone else hoping they fix the animation speed and jank in the Special Edition/next game. I get the whole "uncanny valley of action thing" but I couldn't give less of a shit if the gamefeel is being sacrificed to fix it. Dante is 5 has a much better kit than he had in 4 but God damn having to wait 20 frames to attacks after doing a dash/royal guard/jump cancel is annoying.
Now that you mention it, he did eat his dad’s sword, his sword, and the amulets.
Landon Stewart
Right. DSD has the amulet on it's hilt, which means it pretty much works as a key to hell. God only knows what else could it do, it might still have Rebellion's power, or something even greater.
Now that Dante has the amulet he could travel in and out of hell too right?
Anthony Harris
Maybe, or maybe the amulet merging with the Rebellion gave it a different function like merging Hell and the human world. Or maybe I'm just thinking to deep into it.
Was V a good guy or not? Did he really want to redeem himself or was he simply lying to everyone? I know he beat the shit out of some random punk on the street for clothes.
Ryan Young
I can’t believe I didn’t notice that the red gem is just the Perfect Amulet from DMC1.
Veegil didn't want to die so he put a plan in motion to stop Vergizon and return to himself that included lying to dante and nero. While in his emo body he saw second hand, what going after muh power did and learned his lesson.
I didn't say Dante would want that. Just that DSD might be able to do so, and it could be used by some other bad guy, like Mundus for example. Or maybe Dante could be stuck in a situation that he is forced to do so. Anything is possible really. or maybe DSD can't really do any of that and it's just my imagination running wild.
Luke Reyes
Is this game as stupid as DMC3 with its endlessly boring triangle buttonmashing? Does it has actual combat depth as something like Sekiro or Souls? That dumb cuhrazy meter thing barely did anything in 3 and there was no real reason to use anything more complex than simple attacks with occasional jumping, is 5 all about the same shit?
He wasn't doing that to redeem himself lol. But he did save humans in the novel so we know he felt awful about the trouble he caused and 5 did kick start his new development that we see at the end of the game and hopefully in dmc 6.
Christian Cook
Capcom just lost a sale, shill.
Daniel Edwards
Should've worded myself better, but yeah you get what I meant.
Doesn't matter since you never were interested. And the game is only good when you replay it, so it's something you won't enjoy.
Eli Powell
Reminder this is the second DMC game where Vergil is responsible for the untold deaths of thousands of humans for no reason.
Christian Gomez
>Doesn't matter since you never were interested Question was literally if the games combat is better than that of DMC3, I am interested in good combat, thats it, but since you cunts are so defensive about it I must assume it is indeed the bunch of the same crap.
Urizen did that, Smeagol had nothing to do with it.
Oliver Fisher
It wasn't for no reason, it was for POWER. And also, he doesn't want to feel weak. Both Urizen and V have that same inferior complex, that they tried to cope with in different ways. Urizen did it the traditional Vergil way, while V was forced to accept it and learn to stop being so autistic. I like that V even tells Urizen that he can't beat "him" showing how Vergil's humanity has finally won over his demon side.
It was less about redeeming himself and more just wanting to stop the madness. I think ultimately he always planned to die in the end, help Dante destroy Urizen and then let himself wither away after, end Vergil's bullshit for good, but that would just be running away. It was only after Trish spoke to him about seeing everything through that he kept going and tried to reach Urizen. A lot of people act like V alone was Vergil and V learned stuff that then Vergil learned and he was just reformed as soon as he came back, but I don't buy that. V only changes after Trish tells him to man up, he hated demons and wanted to stop the madness right from the beginning. Vergil is V+Urizen, they are equal parts. Even after the merge Vergil still wanted to fight Dante, to the death, because he was still focused on power; what truly changed him in the end was Nero showing up and getting between them. That's what made him back down and reconsider. And this might stray into 2deep4u territory, but I think part of V's decision to keep going wasn't just Trish's speech but also faith in Nero, that he could save Vergil from himself in the end. tl;dr yeah V was a good guy, and good or bad Vergil's just an asshole.
Jaxson Brown
DMC3 had good combat though, there are enemies that required you to shoot, other enemies that couldn't get staggered, enemies that you had to hit from the back, enemies you had to hit while not looking at them, and so on. Bosses ranged from amazing to awful. So you can just fuck off with your bait. You being asshurt over the style meter proves that you're a pethatic shitter.
in childhood sure, but when both are adults, the older brother becomes ridiculously controlling and overbearing to the point of wanting him out of your life and having fights with him daily.
Robert Rogers
>I think ultimately he always planned to die in the end, V says in the manga he didn't want to die. He literally used Dante and Nero to get back to himself.
Easton Gomez
t. older brother
Kevin Green
I was pretty good about that I think. I fucked off and only gave advice that I knew would be good for "told you so" moments later.
Ayden Brooks
>Vergil comes back >probably the most interesting the character's ever been >he fights Dante >he fights Nero >then the game ends >no DLC planned AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And in the actual game itself he stops after Dante drives ahead, talks about how he's approaching his limit and how he only sought out Dante to right his wrong, and he only starts moving again after Trish tells him to stop being a pussy and see it through.
Benjamin Hernandez
>Trish was useful
wow
Jack Rivera
I didn't like the level design, it's too linear, I like the RE feel of the first game so seeing the series completely lose it with this game was kinda disappointing. Though objectively speaking, the level designs weren't bad, it's a good game, just not the game I wanted
Joseph Hill
He wanted to get rid of his weakness so he could beat Dante, his demon side was only focused on that while his humanity focused on not dying. V told us he didn't want to die right after he got that flashback with him and dante as kids.
He stops because he's breaking down and needed to rest. Not wanting to die and asking Dante for help doesn't contradict each other, he can have more than one reason. The smile at the end with Nero kinda proves that he was manipulating them.
Trish also tossed Dante Sparda so he wouldn't be tentacled and turned into something akin to Cavalier and Artemis. Also saving V from falling to his death, so she was useful a total of three times. Pretty good for a side character.
The series hasn't had a DMC1-like explorable environment in 18 years user.
Jason Hernandez
Is there a problem with the translation?
Dominic Reed
>The smile at the end with Nero kinda proves that he was manipulating them. You're just looking for things to suit your headcanon. This is DMC, not Mad Men, you can't infer some deeper special meaning behind a single gesture that contradicts everything that's outright stated, the characters are very straightforward. "And my soul is saying, IT WANTS TO STOP YOU!" "I need more POWER." "KYRIIIIIIEEEEE!" There's no reason to doubt what V says. He wanted Dante to put an end to Urizen, and his realisation was that the ending doesn't necessarily need to be death. It's not a coincidence that Vergil has that exact same revelation.
Lincoln Moore
good enough for eop schum
Luis Cook
DMC3 kinda had that though and 4 had some puzzles at least. It wasn't much but it was still there
Caleb Evans
I'm getting my info from the manga, novel and game I'm not pulling it out of my ass. V didn't tell Nero or Dante who he actually was that's called manipulation moron and it was clear he had something in mind when they purposely focused on V's smile. looks like your headcanoning V into some good boy when he was just trying to return to himself as stated by Dante and even Itsuno presentation had V's reason as returning to himself.
Joshua Wood
V did tell Dante who he was, you fucking idiot. Literally in their first meeting he tells him that Urizen is Vergil, and later Dante already knows about Vergil splitting himself in two, who do you imagine told him that story? Itsuno's presentation speaks about the character's payoffs, not their reasons; Nero's section in that presentation has him finding his father and gaining a devil trigger, those weren't his reasons for doing anything in the game, you fucking idiot. Your info is from poorly translated side-material, all you have from the actual game itself is V smiling one time and that's it. Play the fucking game you cunt.
Jason Sanders
Imagine being this mad lol V fags are sure defensive when you say V is anything but a good boy >manga stated he didn't want to die >so this was your plan all along V as said by dante >dante let V kill urizen, if he knew he was vergil he wouldn't have let him get close >V's payoff is returning to himself which is what he wanted all along >never told nero about his plan either EVEN if he did tell dante
>Your info is from poorly translated side-material, oh yes nice excuse because you're so fluent in japanese huh? you and I are reading the same material but your interpreting it wrongly
Brayden Smith
>dante let V kill urizen, if he knew he was vergil he wouldn't have let him get close Nigger this isn't up for debate, V tells Dante in the game the very first time they meet. Play the game instead of just reading manga and wiki summaries you fucking retard.
Jaxon Clark
>all you have from the actual game itself is V smiling one time
That was a sick smile, user, and not one Nero was meant to see.
Nathaniel Perry
I did play the game, I wouldn't be reading the manga or novels if I didn't. That still change the fact that Dante didn't know V's true intentions even if he knew who he was. My whole point was that V didn't want to die like you've been screeching in this thread about.
Isaiah Edwards
I think the designers were trying to emphasize the "living blade" aspect of Sparda.
Not him, but sheesh dude no need to call him an idiot and all that, just chill. V was a suspicious lad, and had mysterious motives through out, he might've not been a bad guy, but he was in the gray area for sure. Dante may or may not have known who V truly was, but he most likely didn't since he tells Lady that he is no one special, when she asked who V was. I would say that V is a good guy, at least somewhat. He is in the end Vergil's humanity. Him not telling everyone (besides Trish I guess) who he truly is doesn't change that, and how would telling Nero who he is will help in his quest of stopping Urizen? we're yet to see the big picture of what VoV would flesh out, so I'll leave my judgment when it's done.
Your whole point was that V was manipulating Dante and Nero the entire time and didn't tell Dante who he was, which is a load of bull. Then you go on to talk about Itsuno's presentation and get that wrong. Here's the kicker, if V was just manipulating them why would he talk to Griffon about destroying Urizen when nobody else is around? Because you're stupid, that's why. >he most likely didn't since he tells Lady that he is no one special, when she asked who V was. Am I the only one who played the fucking game? The first time they meet V outright tells Dante that Urizen is Vergil. Later on Dante already knows everything about Vergil splitting himself in two. This isn't rocket science. If you want me to stop calling people idiots they can stop being idiots first.
Aaron Wood
>wherever evil lurks, I must destroy
If a bad guy says this what does it mean?
Carson Baker
>Am I the only one who played the fucking game? No, V does tell Dante who Urizen is, I don't think anyone is denying that. but he doesn't tell him who HE is and so we're left to assume that Dante did not know for most of the game who V truly was till he spells it out in front of Urizen.
Samuel Brown
There's only two people who know Vergil is Dante's rizen. One of them is Lady. The other one is Vergil himself. It's stupid to think Dante wouldn't notice something so obvious.
Charles Baker
>He is in the end Vergil's humanity. Exactly he's just Vergil's human side, that doesn't make him good or bad. Without his pride he realized his mistake and is now trying to correct them but he still has a desire to live and that's not his fault that's a very human feeling.
>a load of bull It's in the game are you sure you didn't play it? V didn't say what his plans were, all he said was that he wanted to defeat urizen not return to himself. >V was just manipulating them why would he talk to Griffon about destroying Urizen when nobody else is around? You mean defeating him into submission so he can return...? No fucking shit that's the reason he's asking Dante and Nero for help in the first place.
Dominic Butler
Especially when fighting something that looks like a former version of himself when he was brainwashed by the demon that ruined his life.
Caleb Rogers
Reminder Dante was unconscious for a month festering in blood and likly shitting/pissing himself
Cooper Rivera
It means ur a faget
Zachary Cook
V wasn't a bad/good guy..
Nolan Sullivan
>Implying Dante poops
Matthew Gonzalez
V was a mysterious guy.
Hudson Wright
I know Dante being stupid is a fun joke and all, but if you honestly think he can hear about Vergil splitting himself into two forms and not figure out that the guy who is telling him about it first-hand while holding Vergil's most treasured childhood possession while knowing everything there is to know about Dante, about Vergil, and about Sparda is actually the human form in that equation then you're just dumb. >V didn't say what his plans were, all he said was his plans >You mean defeating him into submission so he can return...? No you fucking ape, destroy. Why bullshit to Griffon?
Isaiah Richardson
Basically DMC 5 is Vergil playing 4D chess with everyone and even himself in order to gain a fuckton of power from a source that only surfaces once in an eternity.
V told Dante his plans but didn't tell him the whole thing. Why don't you get this? He manipulated Dante into thinking there was no way to return to himself, that is why Dante goes >this was your plan all along V???!!
>No you fucking ape, destroy. Why bullshit to Griffon? Same difference dumbass. Destroy/Defeat has the same connotation.
I'm sure the Quliphot has a way to deal with wastes
John Ramirez
Depression.
Bentley Gutierrez
So you think Lady and Trish menstruated inside those demons as well?
Anthony Clark
>urizen drank period blood
Hunter Morris
>Why don't you get this? Because your entire basis for it is a single smile and everything else contradicts it. It's not fact no matter how hard you might have convinced yourself it is. >Destroy/Defeat has the same connotation No it fucking doesn't. Is English not your first language? Defeat is forcing someone to lose, that can mean beating them into submission. To destroy something is to wipe it out, break it apart irrevocably; if you're some slang talking nigger in a rap battle you might use it interchangeably, but a snobby dick like V who loves his poetry will not. He repeatedly talks about how Urizen must be destroyed, how he must be ended, even when Dante and Nero aren't around. Dante asking a question (not a statement as you've claimed, just wondering aloud, "Was this your plan all along?") doesn't negate the entire rest of the game you thickheaded cunt.
Yeah the game is a solid 7 constantly being heralded as a 10. Feels like it could've come out maybe a year after 4.
Gavin Turner
If the scales on the DSD moved, would it have been better?
Nathaniel Stewart
My issues: >co-op works so well in Mission 13 it's criminal it wasn't a feature. >no playable vergil >too many fucking loading screens >cutscenes half play before you can skip them at times >you go through like 4 title intros before you get to continue or hit the main menu, the latter of which requires you to go through more menus to get to what you want >game defaults to Hell and Hell prologue if you replay a mission if you've platted the game
It's a 10/10 and the best hack and slash ever made, call me ADD if you want but I just wanna get right into the action over and over again. DMC3 and 4 did it, and they're - imo - inferior games, former by a minor, and latter by a major margin.
Also OP there are alternate costumes, they're just crap ones.
Jayden Parker
I love how Nico almost gets herself killed every time she drives.
>Because your entire basis for it is a single smile and everything else contradicts it I already responded to you with other points besides the smile, which you seem to be ignoring for some reason.
>No it fucking doesn't. >destroy- To damage beyond use or repair. They're both meant to make Urizen immobile so he can merge in the end anyways doesn't fucking matter. And even then Jap to Eng translations are never 1 to 1. V uses defeat in the game as well so he clearly uses them interchangeably
>Was this your plan all along?" That means that V didn't tell him his whole plans did he?
Brandon White
>>Can't select any character on any mission even though it should have been a complete no-brainer This is my biggest fucking issue.
Platting DMC5 is a genuinely insane accomplishment. You're a better gamer than almost everyone on Yea Forums right now.
Charles Collins
>i havent had much success with shuffle regular shuffle is pretty shit but EX shuffle has a massive attack window
Xavier Gutierrez
I like Nero's recolor
Gabriel Jackson
>>Was this your plan all along?" >That means that V didn't tell him his whole plans did he? This is the stupidest thing ever said. Dante's speculation does not make something absolute fact. I don't know why you keep holding onto that like it means something. Your other points have all been completely retarded. Damaging a living thing beyond use or repair means killing it, genius. V said he doesn't want to die once in the manga. Dante said he doesn't want to leave Vergil in hell, but he did it anyway. Nero said he doesn't want to fight Credo, but he did it anyway. Sometimes people do things they don't want to because there's more important shit going on. Welcome to planet Earth. All your points are stupid. You're just sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating the same shit that makes no sense.
The only DMC game I've completed Dante must Die mode on was DMC4 which isn't a big deal. DMC5 I started DMD mode, completed the prologue and went "holy fuck those enemies take forever to kill, I am not bothering with this."
Brody Bell
Unironically git gud. You're not attacking enough if you take long to deal with empusas on any difficulty. Unless you're talking about an empusa queen.
Oliver Collins
That empusa queen took me like 10 fucking minutes just to kill her and I just KNOW they're going to throw some absolutely abhorrent bullshit my way in later levels so I just won't bother. My fingers were aching just with that.
Brayden Bell
Nero can do ridiculous damage if you learn to ex-act consistently (which will naturally get you a lot of accidental max-acts) and keep Blue Rose charging as much as possible. Especially if you bring a damage-focused Breaker like Overture or Tomboy.
Ayden Nelson
>Dude here's some advice you already know Thanks I'm not asking for advice though I was just giving my two cents, I already know shit like that. It's a pain in the ass so I'm not doing it. You understand.
Caleb Taylor
Apologies, since it took you like 10 fucking minutes to kill an empusa queen I thought your problem was a lack of consistent damage output, I didn't realise you were just a retard, I'll be more considerate in the future.
Kayden Myers
Oh no I made you upset with my unwillingness to deal with damage sponges. It's a good thing I don't give a fuck about impressing an anonymous nobody so your childish faggotry doesn't work on me. I'm gunna go play SoS again, have fun showing everyone how skilled you are at videogames bro.
Brandon Roberts
>Dante's speculation does not make something absolute fact I think we should trust the person whom V told his story too and most likely left out the part where he said he wanted to merge no? >my points are retarded because you can't refute them :^)
Damaging something so it immobile is exactly what Dante did to Urizen. Dante leaving Vergil in hell and Nero not wanting to fight Credo isn't the same situation as V choosing not to die. He had a choice to either die or not and he made that choice as soon as he became V and gathered Dante and Nero to help him.
It makes no sense because you're retarded and can't into context.
Dylan Thomas
Yeah that is clearly the post of someone who doesn't give a fuck, your passive aggression just oozes how uncaring you really are. Don't blame the game because you suck.
Jose Price
>your passive aggression just oozes how uncaring you really are. Yeah it's true, getting upset because I don't want to play DMD mode in DMC5 was pretty fucking funny though and I couldn't pass up a chance to fuck with you. >Don't blame the game because you suck. I'm not, these are my personal feelings. Stop getting defensive you little baby boy.
Alexander Wright
Have sex (with each other).
Hudson Brown
>I'm not You have all the tools to defeat DMD enemies quickly and you either choose not to use them or are too incompetent to, and instead say you don't want to deal with damage sponges. That is blaming the game, dumb sweetieposter.
Wyatt Parker
>most likely left out the part where he said he wanted to merge He left it out because he didn't want to at that time. Every point you've made has been refuted. You're just a circular ass nigger.
Evan Sanders
Have... Actually, don't have sex or kids. They'd end up horribly, and you'd molest them for sure.
Luke Murphy
>That means that V didn't tell him his whole plans did he? Could indicate that he changed this plans midway through instead of lying to Dante in the beginning, unless you also think he was lying to Trish and there's no indication of that.
Jace Lewis
just use the mecha buster to oneshot her you moron
Nathan Davis
Use a cock buster to finish your mother, aka the only woman you'll ever touch.
Isaiah Bell
roasty is toasty
Anthony Butler
>He left it out because he didn't want to at that time how convenient :^)
>Every point you've made has been refuted. All you have been saying is its stupid over and over again.
That would have been a great theory if he didn't say he didn't want to die right after he got shat out. V didn't even say anything that could have been a lie? He just told her how he split and asked if Dante could make everything ok and then she went put on your big boy pants V and help Dante.
You wish you were a roastie, so you could fuck me.
Xavier Morgan
oh god it's a self butchered roastie
Isaac Reyes
It's the reveal trailer, what about it?
Brandon Sanders
I want to feel the same excitement again. Vergil news when
Oliver Johnson
My thoughts exactly
Asher Wood
>be me >join this Yea Forums server called the Archive Fields >( discord.gg/HnuUfGn ) >filled with literal pedos, traps, etc >cant report them to ToS because they delete posts that break it >faggot called AA-1 runs the place >bunch of people tell me to post my legs >comply because desperate for attention >AA-1 tells me if I write "archive" on my body, he'll give me a special number >stupidly think "fuck it why not" >do it >I send it to him >he sees it >I delete it >he saves it and shows it to everyone >bullies me all day about it and calls me a retard and idiot >everyone in the server keeps calling me a retard >even the fucking traps their are bullying me >AA-1 even DM's me and says the only way to make up for this is too start a live stream and shill the server and then seriously killing myself >leave the server and have massive panic attack >AA-1 sends all of his little buddies to add me as a friend and keep trying to guilt trip me into rejoining the server >inb4 "just ignore them" >AA-1's friends are in other main servers I use and they keep harassing me in their as well
Please help, what do I do? These faggots is seriously ruining my life.
i saw you in the Yea Forums weapon thread whats with this October December, BB DD bird code shit?
Hunter Fisher
>All you have been saying is its stupid over and over again. You said Itsuno's presentation stated V's goal was returning to Vergil, that was completely wrong. You said V didn't tell Dante about Vergil, that was completely wrong. You made a point about V saying he doesn't want to die; Nero didn't want to fight Credo, Dante didn't want to abandon Vergil, they still did it, people do stuff they don't want to do to achieve larger goals, point refuted. Someone not saying something that isn't true isn't convenient, it's common sense. All you have is a smug fuck smiling one time. Redditfacing doesn't change reality. Stop arguing like some kike on a debate squad trying to win points. You're wrong and your shit's all retarded.
You can't be serious with this statement. Also just a few threads ago there was this user who S ranked every single mission in DMC2, which is a much bigger accomplishment in my opinion.
And before you say DMC2 is easy, you should try getting an S rank in any mission there first.
Ryan Ramirez
There are people who care more for the hype than for the games and those people are scum.
Nolan Lopez
I actually just started DMD like a week ago (been playing through it slowly bc ADD I guess) and actually died right there because I wasn't being careful.
Honestly, git gud. Enemies in DMD do have a lot of health but it makes it way more fun because the whole point is expression of the player through combos anyway.
Also, the Empusa Queen should not even remotely take 10 minutes. I fucking suck (but have been learning to git gud because I'm getting way more consistent in my Ex-act timings), but it still only took me a couple of minutes. Like, it's not THAT bad.
Feels good being better than someone else or at least TRYING instead of giving up like a retard.
Noah Hughes
All you points basically are >your wrong because I say so >You said Itsuno's presentation stated V's goal was returning to Vergil, that was completely wrong. What would it be otherwise? Dying? What a great payoff. Itsuno wrote V was someone wanting to return to himself.
>You said V didn't tell Dante about Vergil, My whole fucking point was that V didn't tell Dante the whole truth the reason why he wanted Urizen defeated. Dante asked himself if this was the reason V wanted help. You were the only saying that V told Griffon he wanted Urizen destroyed when he also said he wanted them defeated.
>You made a point about V saying he doesn't want to die; >people do stuff they don't want to do to achieve larger goals He wasn't forced to do anything, after recruiting Dante and Nero if he wanted to die he could have. He wouldn't have merged with Urizen at the end, there's nothing indicating his talk with Trish had anything to do with it since he already resolved that point after he became V.
>Someone not saying something that isn't true isn't convenient, it's common sense. So he told himself he didn't want to die and griffon himself didnt want to die so they worked together so they wouldn't die but he was still undecided about dying when he went to dante are you fucking with me?
This is my last (you).You are one retarded mofo christ.
Gabriel Bailey
>Ken got a Dante costume >Cody got a Vergil costume >Ken has fire attacks >Cody has wind attacks >Agni and Rudra have fire and wind attacks >Dante and Vergil are brothers >Agni and Rudra are brothers Yeah, I'm thinking they're in.
A payoff Itsuno plans for a character is not their motivation. Nero's payoff was finding his dad. He did not go to Redgrave looking for his dad. You are a retard. Saying that V didn't tell Dante he wanted to merge with Urizen and this is proof that he wanted to merge with Urizen makes no sense, it made no sense the first time you said it and it makes no sense now. Dante didn't say that he wanted to eat a pile of shit. Do you know why he didn't say it? Because he didn't want to eat a pile of shit. Fucking nonsense. V was ready to give up (which would have led to his death) until Trish told him to man up and see it through. This happens in-game. I don't know why you're denying this reality. Griffon said he didn't want to die, then later Griffon fought Dante knowing he would die doing it. People are capable of doing things they don't want to do. We've been over this like five times already. Eat shit and die.
Wasn't there a recent SMT spin-off that had Nero and Dante?
Daniel Taylor
Is this SMT Nocturne?
Lucas Turner
I just want a new weapon like Nightmare-Beta or Artemis.
And if we ever got another 3 weapon again, I'd rather it be Nevan, since that has so much more potential. I'd imagine you might be able to switch forms ala Balrog or KC.
Mason Barnes
wait for Vergil dlc and they will feature the gang again
>No mention of the the weakest entry in the entire franchise story wise >No mention of how utterpointles Dante felt in the game. >Nothing new to say or do >just going threw the motions >he's there cause he had to be >Trish and Lady literally in game for no reason >Game fucks up cannon of Dante and Vergil being twins >Fails utterly to delivery any emotional moments in the story >Dante finds out his brother, thought dead for 20 years is alive >No reaction >Nero finds out Vergil is his father >no reaction >Vergil finds out he has a son >no reaction Story wise alone, holy shit 5 was terrible
fair, but at this point getting stmV on its own would be a miracle
Jeremiah Brown
Agree with most but its still my GOTY at the moment. Fuck you though Furies are rad and atleast as Dante have a fuck ton of strats. As Nero though just parrying them repeatedly is alittle lame in the same 1-2 ways.
Lincoln Wilson
1 and 4 are both FAR worse than 5. I'd put 5 behind 3 actually. It has its flaws but it's also much better than just about every other game in the series and has some actual subtleties to it.
I think A&R have plenty of untapped potential with their twinblade form. You could make most of its old moves into its basic moveset like they did with Cerberus, and dedicate SM fully to the twinblade.
I love Nevan, but I feel it's a bit too different to bring to a new game.
Adrian Kelly
>twinblade form If they do that i would prefer if twin form was a FiredUp state like balrog instead of a switch mode like punch/kick ice/fire
What if A&R but its gimmick is every attack having a crazy combo.
Isaiah Lee
Eh, that's not crazy enough imo.
With Nevan, you could have its regular attacks be in its guitar state, with Swordmaster attacks in scythe form.
But I Just really want a new Artemis-style weapon. SO much you could do there.
Joseph Butler
But that's already what Nevan was?
Brody Cooper
Nevan would be perfect if you take away the "stance" you must enter before attacking and replace the single scythe strike with a proper 1,2,3 combo like dmc4 yamato
Isaac Kelly
Yeah but go even further with it like And maybe give me an FLCL/Punch Line-style move where I can surf on the guitar while flying.
>in the year 2001 >watching some videogame TV channel >game music videos looping in the afternoon >see this shit: youtube.com/watch?v=uFcTaf7IVic >my 12yo's face when >buy it, no brainer >arrive in game >launch an enemy in the air >shoot it while it's in the air >mfw again
One of my fondest memories regarding vidya as a kid was me, my older brothers, and a few of my cousins booting this up for the first time and watching him play it over the course of one night. We got hype as fucking shit after the opening cutscene, knocking an enemy into the air and shooting it, seeing Alastor impale Dante, etc. It was a good fucking time.
Lincoln Bennett
where did all those hype men go? the ones creating all those memes and shit, they all disappeared when the game finally came out
Nolan Flores
all they did was spam projectiles, fuck off, there were way better enemies like Abyss
Jonathan Reed
In the end I'd rather get some new weapons than old ones. What made King Cerb and DKA good is all the new stuff they can do rather than just being back.
Liam Torres
I still think that DKA is kinda disappointing with only the new stuff it brings being any hype. Double Hysteric or whatever it's called is pretty cool though.
I would rather they give us new weapons but if they're going to give us old ones, may as well be ones that I liked and want to see come back. I still think it's rather odd that they made DMC5 a fan service game but eh, it's kinda nice seeing some old favorites come back in new ways. I wish KC had its own Crazy Combo back though.
Sebastian Diaz
Its SM lightning attacks work a lot like its crazy combos.
Joseph Scott
>Its SM lightning attacks work a lot like its crazy combos. I don't feel that way at all. Do they last longer the more you mash or something? I've never noticed.
I do like how it does basically have a Crazy Combo in that one combo that ends with the old Windmill move (iirc?). In fact, I like how every weapon basically has Crazy Combos again, they just didn't bother making it into a big deal with its own mechanic again. That was nice, since I've been bitching about seeing them again since forever.
Caleb Howard
>Just finished Platinuming this game
This is a thing that people actually do? Is it Zoomers? Or who the fuck actually does this?
Angel Murphy
how dare he enjoy playing this game
Cooper Johnson
>abyss oh, you mean yet another braindead enemy that just blindly cycles through his three attacks? meanwhile enigmas actually evade your attacks and punish careless charging
Isaac Baker
No I mean they're almost the same attacks. The back attack is like the big spikey one but with lightning. The neutral works the same as the one where Dante throws the nunchuks around, making all enemies around you fly away.
Kayden Jones
>actually evade your attacks they just stood there as you ran up to them
Noah Watson
>t. normalshitter
Levi Stewart
You forgot the part where enigmas never stop evading and don't stop shooting while evading.
Carson Walker
Oh, I never saw it that way. You know, that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to take a closer look at the animations next time.
Dominic Ortiz
Meant for
Ayden James
and? you have tools in your set to deal with projectiles and weapons to knock down enemies at range, so why not use them? really funny how in dmc games the one enemy that actually fights back is always loathed
Evan Roberts
>there are enemies that required you to shoot, other enemies that couldn't get staggered, enemies that you had to hit from the back, enemies you had to hit while not looking at them >good combat Lawl.
Samuel Wood
>enemies that you had to hit from the back only a problem in the saw corridors >enemies you had to hit while not looking at them those gasballs can go suck a dick
William Ward
Man, this game is so good and I hope, I’m six months, we can get some kind of DLC announcement. But honestly, even without that, I’d be happy. There’s a good chance that modders will have 100% co-op up and running soon.
Joseph Diaz
but here's the issue. all these enemies passively restrict the number of ways of approaching them, rather than actively defending themselves with the one exception being enigma in total dmc3 has a good core combat system but subpar combat against enemies also none of these gimmicks are actually good. end yourself for liking them
Leo Smith
DMC 3 with all of the improvements of DMC 5 Dante's kit (style switching and carrying your whole arsenal) would be perfect provided enemy design is tweaked to compensate
Colton Anderson
tweaked how?
Easton Roberts
So they can't be TRICKSWORDTRICKSWORDTRICKSWORD'd to death, that kind of stuff
Gabriel Allen
so just a number tweak? thats alright, thought you ment something else
Thomas Gray
>No DSD >No Balrog >No King Cerberus >No Double Kalina Ann >No Dr. Faust >No Sin Devil Trigger All of Dante's moveset would need to be massively reworked. At that point they should just make a new game.
>free weapon update >Agni and Rudra returns to DMC 5 (non-canon) >all movesets from DMC 3 >back to forward melee button on ground sends 3 waves of flames around Dante, launches enemies on air (not all enemies can be launched on air) >back to forward on air creates a mini whirlwind around Dante that sucks ground enemies towards him, enemies on air are stunned for a while >while on Swordmaster style, Dante can use either of the two swords by holding the melee/style button. (holding melee lets you use Agni, style button lets you use Rudra, holding either one of the button again lets you use both of the weapons). Agni has heavy and slow fire moveset, Rudra has light and fast wind moveset
Mason Sullivan
>>free weapon update free upon the purchase of SE >>back to forward melee button on ground sends 3 waves of flames around Dante, launches enemies on air (not all enemies can be launched on air) >>back to forward on air creates a mini whirlwind around Dante that sucks ground enemies towards him, enemies on air are stunned for a while what would be the diference with the whirlwiind they already havve?' >>while on Swordmaster style, Dante can use either of the two swords by holding the melee/style button. a sword is not the same as a gun, you cant just E&I the brothers
Tyler Sanchez
This is all in theory of course but I wish DMC6 gets to be a closure of the Sons of Sparda story as they destroy Mundus once and for all, with Dante maybe dying or not. And then the final game, DMC7, Is a prequel just about Dante, happening in the time period between 3 and 1.
It could have lots of classic Dante antics and a solid villain that, while not being super strong, attacks in more abstract, psychological ways and makes Dante question himself about his resolve. Dante of course comes out of top in the end by reinforcing the themes of love and humanity. We get a big Dante send off and the franchise can finally rest in peace.
Once Itsuno is done with DD2, so 3 years at the earliest.
Charles Cox
No, I want it to have a peaceful satisfactory finale and be remembered as a legend. Instead of becoming a shambling corpse of its former self where it forgets what it once was.
Carter Parker
But DMC is nowhere near that.
Jordan Garcia
if dmc pulled a metal gear revengence with an 100% nero gamee, how would you re-brand it since dmc is daante's gig
The great part about DMC5 is that they could take the series in any direction they wanted. Personally I hope they expand upon the lesser-known aspects of the lore.
5 already introduces certain annoyances present in modern games which DMC didn't have before. In small amount sure, but that's how it starts. All it takes is one RE6 or MGS4.
You could argue that DmC was the equivalent of that but the series managed to prevail only due to Itsuno's good will. However 5 ironically owes its success to DmC being such a low point. If 5 came out directly after 4, I can guarantee you that the reception would've been lukewarm.
The only thing worse than DmC, is a game with the plot and story of the DmC but with the original characters. And honestly after seeing 5, I think that we're closer to that point then we ever could've dreamed of.
Eli Green
>5 already introduces certain annoyances present in modern games which DMC didn't have before. Such as?
>The only thing worse than DmC, is a game with the plot and story of the DmC but with the original characters. And honestly after seeing 5, I think that we're closer to that point then we ever could've dreamed of. What part of DMC5 had two digit IQ social commentary or an abortion?
Nolan Ross
Don’t forget the Slurm Queen.
Jaxon Campbell
That falls on the social commentary as well as the Fox News expy.
Christopher Price
>Such as? Game is made easier to appeal to less skilled players affecting elements of the game beyond just easier revives with things like weaker gravity and making it easier to stay in air. Characters talk mid mission and mid combat. Camera slow-mo. Purchasable DLC weapons which are not just skins. "Oh but those are small things" You might say. Sure for now they are, we'll see what happens next.
>What part of DMC5 had two digit IQ social commentary or an abortion? You misunderstand. I didn't say DMC5 is like DmC, but it's closer than previous games with its push for realism and crass dialog.
Gavin Green
>push for realism DMC5 is as ridiculous and sentimental as the games have ever been.
>crass dialog I don't think you understand what the problem with DmC's dialogue was.
Lucas Murphy
>check >Cavaliere R has a new move WHAT THE FUCK
Austin Lee
It's amazing that DmC very heavily takes designs, settings and entire plots from "They Live", but ignores the big implication that Donte and Vorgil will have to either kill, disarm or talk down a large number of humans to accomplish their goals.
John Perez
My qualms with this game:
>V is too easy and has little interaction >Aesthetic design (I don't like ultra realistic character models, just looks weird to me and Dante looks like a homeless man) >Level design felt uninspired and got repetitive once you leave the city (more gooey pulsing organics, whoopie) >No option to turn off shittier breakers >No Vergil mode >Dante combos don't feel as satisfying, Nero felt way more fun this time around.
That's about all. Very fun game and I enjoyed it, but all in all I feel like it's forgettable.
Mason Williams
NONONONONO WHAT THE FUCK YOU CANNOT CRITICIZE THIS GAME ON ANY FORM FUCKING BARRY WHAT THE FUCK BROS!!!!!!!
Jason Peterson
Seething.
Eli Jenkins
im finishing up my playthrough on hard right now, maybe on VH or DMD they become magical but right now they are annoying trash
Austin Phillips
>DMC5 is as ridiculous and sentimental as the games have ever been. I was talking about the visuals mostly. They wanted to appeal to the broader audience and that's what they went with. However the dialog became more realistic and down to earth too and some may say that's fine and that they like it. But DMC used to have a unique style with a bunch of cheesy one liners and it's minimal dialog that still managed to say a lot. It almost felt like you're watching a stage show in a theater and I liked that. In comparison DMC5 felt like watching the newest seasonal super hero movie that you forget about after it ends.
>DmC's dialogue was This isn't about DmC's dialog, it's about DMC's dialog becoming trashier which it what makes it closer to the former. If you're fine with that, good on you, but I don't like it. Neither of the previous games had that nor needed it in such amount. Yeah Nero flipped the bird once and said some low key swear words, but that's where it should've stayed imo.
On another note, I don't like how they made Dante a dirty hobo. I bet next game he's gonna live in a trailer or a van.
Justin Morgan
Sometimes I forget they killed so many innocent people at the end, and honestly, I think the writers did too. How else can they use a scene from Spongebob at the end, but without any hint of self awareness?
If DMC6 comes out and Dante's not in it you're going to destroy the game just for that and i'm going to be mad. Going to call you fake DMC fans and all it will bloody.
If you don't think Nero has multiple avenues of growth concerning his gameplay then you are absolutely unimaginative.
Mason Gutierrez
mmmm yummy taco
Angel Wright
You already use most of the fucking controller while playing as him
Carson Kelly
The intended understanding was always that Urizen is a different entity who represents Vergil outside his more healthy state of mind when he would normally never consider doing such a thing and the split altering Vergil's personality was an unintended side effect to begin with. V is just as much a part of Vergil as Urizen, and V is pretty much the embodiment of regret. On a similar note, you don't see any dead bodies in 3 after Vergil summoned the Temen ni gru. It seemed to me that Dante intended to start his business in the ghost town part of the city.
Jace Reyes
This type of discussion never goes anywhere. No matter whatever I may say you will continue to hold on tightly to what you've said because you just won't like any change you perceive, whether it has a basis in reality or not. You can cry "opinion, opinion!" if you want, but you clearly have no intention to change your thoughts on the matter, or broaden your knowledge on the subject, or discussing anything, really. I don't know why you even posted it on a discussion board, though I guess the fool is me for even replying.
Anyone got the pic where it's a drawing of the panel of Dan leaking DMC 5 but with the characters?
Christian Anderson
Make an effort will you. Let's ignore the devil breakers for now since the possibilities with those are endless. Devil knuckles: Right now they are a one button press single action thing. -Maybe they could do something with the lock on, have a soft lock on and a hard lock on allowing you to hit two enemies at the same time (target a dude, knuckle him, he becomes soft locked and you can attack someone else or knuckle another to change the soft lock). Okay scratch that let's have another idea. -Nero's arm's whole shtick is that i can absorb demon relics, it absorbed the yamato and it could absorb other kinds of demon weapons or magic powers (imagine doubling up on time bubbles with a ragtime/time relic combo). There you have it. What about directional inputs for the knuckles/devil arms, that would be intense could be fun and a show of skill or maybe you don't think you'd be fast enough. Okay let's have a last idea. -Why have the sword-exceed-knuckle timing be so rigid? Could we exceed on the "knuckle"? (remember the above idea). Sword-knuckle-exceed-sword-exceed-knuckle-sword-... Maybe that could modify the knuckle's behavior, maybe a quick short grab, a behind grab, maybe a high damage punch that knocks away or up i don't fucking know. And all of this under a healthy layer of Devil Breakers including new breakers/directional breaker inputs/different levels of breaker charge. So next time you argue that Nero is boring because he doesn't have a lot of moves how about you don't instead, it makes you look a bit of an idiot. Sorry for being a cunt.
Hey man, as I said if you like it, then more power to you. But one should try to see the situation from another angle. >because you just won't like any change you perceive Of course I won't accept the things pushing the series I like towards something I don't. That's common sense. >I don't know why you even posted it on a discussion board It's a complaint and complaints can be a part of a discussion or spark one. But maybe you're right, lets just post nothing, let the thread die as it so often does and be done we it. Or lets just regurgitate old jokes and complain why Vergil isn't playable yet for the nth time. I'm just offering another perspective, instead of preaching to the choir.
I know people don't like it when someone dislikes a game they favor and hold in high regard and are willing to turn a blind eye to its failings, but such attitude is also anti-discussion as well, as you'd say. You may think I'm being some kind of a hater, but I'm just rationally trying to express why the game disappointed me in many regards. If you have nothing to say to me, then simply just don't post.
user I think the post you replied to was talking about DmC.
Adam Davis
>>Game fucks up cannon of Dante and Vergil being twins In one game, user.
Matthew Cook
One of my biggest wants for DMC 6 is a return to the more metal and rock stuff as opposed to 5's EDM Also bring back Nevan or a weapon like it
>Dante and Nero guest starring in a persona/dmc game >Instead of having a summoning mechanic they have a digital devil saga style transformation Would be rad.
Shootie is releasing a song inspired by dmc soon so maybe you can give it a listen if you liked 3.
Luke Evans
Yep, plus this is the worst camera I've played with in the last 7 or so years. Slowest moving in the series, and 1 had fixed cameras. If I fall too fast from high up it takes forever for it to catch up. Also sticks to the walls.
The camera has always been an issue in DMC games, ironically enough, not so much in DmC, but they've had 11 years to get it down better with other games.
>Can't select any character on any mission even though it should have been a complete no-brainer This I don't get. What is the DMC teams deal with this bullshit? Multiple characters with their own stages, great, but it also means I get to play 3 very short games. I know some things are character specific, specially V's bosses, but that doesn't mean there are no workaround or just leniency.
He hasn't released it yet actually it was supposed to be released back in April. But heres the link saying its inspired by dmc. shootiehg.com/news
Hmm?
Daniel Moore
There is blood on the floor and there are cars, and bar and club look functioning, with dishes on tables and lights on the scene. Seems like demons disposed of everyone, just like it happened in now-canon novels.
Nolan Perez
Forgot to mention there's a snippet on his youtube channel if you wanted to hear it. It really does sound like it should have been part of the soundtrack.
Ryder Williams
I remember reading that after Inafune Capcom's goodwill and finances were fucked, and they wanted to feel the market and audiences by releasing something on budget but big at the same time. Thus, RE2R and DMC5 with bad fire effect and tons of reused assets on nu-mt framework.
Kevin Sanchez
Cant find the snippet on his channel. Only the remix of DNC for V.
Look like they spent their budget on music too if they hired renowned producers to work on the soundtrack.
Robert Ramirez
>"Co-op" is so half assed, so luke warm it would make anyone question why on earth they even bothered to spend time and resources on it That's because it's not Co-op. It's a Cameo System. The whole purpose of it is to rate the style of other players, and to do that you have to actually look at them instead of fighting yourself. As for M13, it's just a special case.
Juan Smith
Sounds like final boss music. I'd love to hear this ingame, maybe someone could mod it in.
>3/4 >Dante walks around with a giant fucking sword stuck in his chest >5 >Can't get up after being bitch slapped by some tentacle I could've ignored it if I wasn't to forced to play that V abomination. Nero was already boring enough, guess these fags didn't learn anything from 4.
Ryder Walker
That was Vergil's tentacle that's why.
Carter Ramirez
NOW YOU'VE REALLY CROSSED THE LINE
Carter Anderson
Ye it's a pretty good combat loop. I've seen plenty of anons say they like it.
>The end? Don't bet on it.
Evan Hughes
>guess these fags didn't learn anything from 4. It's not as simple as that. I'm sure they were interested in going in a very different direction with the combat at some point but they probably remembered how well that turned out for DmC. A huge number of complaints were related to the combat so they probably stuck with the one fans have been jerking off to for the better part of a decade or face the consequences.
Jaxon Thomas
YOUR HATE FOR ME IS DIVINE
Sebastian Lopez
>loved dmc 1 >dropped it >loved dmc 3 >dropped it >loved dmc 4 >dropped it >didn't really like dmc 5 >dropped it
i don't got it. it has everything i like in video games, yet i can never get anywhere in these games. i just get bored and drop them every time.
Charles Nelson
And that's ok. You don't have to force yourself to finish something, even if you're enjoying it. It's just not your cup of tea.
Daniel Gutierrez
Yeah the pacing in these games can be hard to swallow at times, because it can really drag on. The biggest reason people stay with these games is their desire to get better with the combat system. So if you don't have that drive to play more stylishly then I can see why one would get bored.
If you can, at least try to finish 3.
Camden Lopez
What's stopping you from completing them?
Jaxson Gray
honestly, i think might be right. while i have fun styling, that's sort of all you do in the game. getting good at say, monster hunter has the additional reward of getting you better things to use. dmc is really all about playing a bunch of levels really well, and that's fine, but my dumb tism wants more than that. if DMC had a stupid hub where you could do stuff for people, i'd probably like it more.
Isaac Flores
more on this, i've always been more goal oriented, and DMC sort of has a singular goal, which is just getting better. on the flip side, i can play fighting games forever, because they're also only about getting better, but they have ranking systems, and people better than you that you either learn to beat, or get stuck in rank hell. kind of like an infinitely scaling difficulty.
Zachary Butler
>a hub in dmc where you can do stuff for people I've never even consider such an idea.
Have you tried the bloody palace? That kinda sounds like your thing.
Michael Williams
>Just finished Platinuming this game do people really do this bros ? Once i finish a game's story and whatever else i manage to do before that i am done baby, moving on to the next one. Especially now that i am clearing my backlog. Don;t have time to grind useless achievements
Jacob Cook
You can't really say you've beaten a DMC game until you've replayed it at least 5 times.
Gabriel Rivera
I don't know technically i suppose it could work if it's like in a bar and clients just throw random arenas at you or there's like a secret mission counter with a huge list of MGRevengeance styled bonus missions to check out. I don't know i don't think walking around to have conversations with NPCs is something worth doing here. I'd love to RP Dante being cool walking the streets but in the end i'm really just here to fight demons.
By the time you clear all difficulties you automatically pretty much have all the trophies already so it's not really trophy hunting it's just properly working out the game and those things just roll in as a consequence.
Jacob Barnes
reminder that blitz is an infinitely better enemy than fury. some of the achievements make you go out of your way to accomplish certain things, for example that one where you have to use royalguard exclusively to beat mission 12.
Julian Jones
Finished building my gayman pc a few days ago and this was on my list since I remembered my cousin used to let me watch him mash through dmc1/3. Just finished mission 4, I love nero and his combo flexibility, sometimes I do have some problems getting moves out and keeping enemies in the air, but I'll get used to it. V on the other hand really fucks with me, i love his character design, but his combat makes my retarded, sub room temperature iq brain, shit itself. I already had enough trouble with nero, trying to remeber to rev, keep bullets charged, grapple stall, use devil arms, vary combos, and taunt. Maybe I got too accustomed to neros cqc style, but v just ain't sitting me.
Alexander Moore
V is weird and overall honestly pretty easy basically, keep the bird charging at all times like nero bullets, use the launcher into buzzsaw from cat very often, it stalls for hours and does great damage, read books or taunt, he's the safest character to do so
nightmare is a giant fuck you button to everything on screen, summon him and follow up with the circle canes move for huge style and lots of DT if you kill more then 1 enemy
Cameron Russell
V is more limited than other characters but you can still do cool looking things if you stay close to the enemies instead of hanging in the back like a coward. Call back the cat if some fucker gets too close to you and read poetry straight into a Nobody's ear. Don't forget to point at things with your cane and dance in the middle of it all like you don't give a fuck. Before the game came out some user predicted V would be the character designed for those who don't really like action games and he was spot on. That's just what V is.
Anthony Ramirez
How come we don't have full circle+triangle/full circle+trigger inputs for griffon and shadow? Quarter circle? left-right-left? 3quarters and right? 3quarters and left? There's still room to complexify V's gameplay if they one day wish to do so.
I like sparda’s design. You can see the force edge morphing into the demonic parts and its design has been getting more fleshy in each iteration which makes me think that sparda is actually growing. If dante didnt absorb it, the sparda would probably have become the next big bad or something
Adrian Ross
Is dr faust the first time dante got a devil arm from a non-boss enemy?
Adam Rivera
No even a little. DMC 1 gave you weapons in a more interesting manner. This wasn't a thing until 3 got popular.
Gavin Flores
Alastor, Ifrit, Artemis
Ryder Johnson
But you didnt get them from an enemy tho. My point is that even regular enemies are devil armable
Leo Ortiz
I think that user is talking asking if there ever was a weapon that comes from a lesser demon.
Jonathan Hall
You didnt get those from an enemy tho, those were picked up
Devil May Cry’s a rockin’! Don’t come a knockin’! Baby, yeah!
Christian Rivera
>reminder that blitz is an infinitely better enemy than fury. Furies don't have a instakill move and aren't a chore to fight if you don't cheese them Parying them is also way more fun and interactive then just shooting at them
James Price
Oh damn, this sounds good. Now I feel even saltier they didn't get Shootie for 5. I really hope they get him for 6.
Luke Reed
>side and incomplete circle inputs no thanks hated that shit in DMC3 and i'm glad they are fucking gone, as well ass mashing like a retard circle inputs for the pets is a legitimate complaint tho
