Smash DLC

>the only first party newcomers released as DLC were just a promotional FE rep and a mook

What went wrong?

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all the remaining 1st party choices blow ass as DLC options
>dude pay $6 for Bandana Dee/Captain Toad/Edelgard/Skull Kid etc
granted I wouldn't mind some more 1st party characters like SK, Paper Mario, Dixie, and Waluigi but they should be included as part of the base game rather than something you have to shell out additional cash for

Here is your next promotional DLC fighter in the fighters pass.
Have fun with the new Metroid stage.

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The whole point of fighting game (or party game) DLC is to bring new players into the game.

You don't bring in new players with 1st party Nintendo picks. You bring them in with global hits like Cloud, Ryu, Banjo, etc.

So what the fuck was Corrin doing in there last time, then?

Fuck first parties and all the bargin bullshit left to choose from

Including Ridley and K Rool

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token FE life support charity pick
with 3H's success, maybe they'll stop needing the handouts

Good point. Honestly not sure, I like to think it was more pressure from Nintendo than Sakurai choosing him.

Then again, Sakurai really likes FE.

Iirc, Sakurai wanted to shilla first party game, and others pushed Corrin for that, he initially was against it because of how much FE was already in the game, but since Corrin is different enough from the other FE reps, he gave in.

To be fair, Banjo basically does primarily appeal to the Smash/Nintendo crowd already

This guy gets it. Plus like every 1st party character that needs to be in has gotten a spot already

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Eh, I'd say round it out by adding a villein F-Zero and Earthbound character and then Nintendo can be done.

Skull Kid could be interesting, but there's already too much of him and related stuff in the game

>Earthbound character
No, don't need more than Ness and Lucas

wromg

FE was already off of life support by then so that doesn't check out.

Ideally every first party series should have a villain

I hate that i want another Fire Emblem character but I wish they would cull one of the existing ones and give us a 3H character done in the style of Robin. Robin's the only FE character in Smash that actually feels like their moveset was inspired by the source material and I want more of that shit

Every first party is stretching it, but I think it's fair to say that at least the original 12 should all have villains. Which means we need Porky and Black Shadow.

Travis Touchdown, Ryu from Ninja Gaiden, and Captain N

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and Dark Matter
or Magolor
or Marx

Porky and Black Shadow is perfect as it gives an "evil alt" vibe for the o12.

Bonus points if Blood Falcon got turned into an Echo with very slight changes.

Dedede and Meta Knight already fit the role.

Corrin was never promotional
Piranha Plant was made because sakurai had an outlandish idea.

Zoomers and redditors don’t want first parties anymore because they aren’t “SOOPER FUGKING EPIK THIRD PARTY MY BOY IS IIIIIIN” characters.

It’s the same retarded subhumans that want Smash Kart.

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NUH UH! What about D-list side character #6 or obscure protagonist from a Nintendo game that sold 400k worldwide!

Fawful would be kino though

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>all the remaining 1st party choices blow ass as DLC options
Pretty much this, the only first party characters you could get people to pay for are, humorously enough, assist trophies(Krystal, Waluigi, Ashley, etc.), and even then not everyone would buy them.

Except Sakurai litterally said in a famitsu column that Corrin was promotional.

Thanks, I will. Sylux is badass and having another gunner in the game would be great.

No, he “literally said” that his team wanted him in and they convinced him to add corrin.

>Corrin was never promotional

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"After internal analysis, we decided that if we’re going to make DLC, we would choose a character from a soon-to-be-released new game. After consulting many times with Nintendo and looking at the upcoming release schedule, Fire Emblem Fates was in just the right spot."

1 game out of 30ish where these two could maybe be considered vilains
Besides, there needs to be a vessel or sorts to bring along a change to Kirby's content in Smash where 10% of the actual series gets 90% of the content

Nothing.

There are no 1st party characters left that would be worth adding to the game.

3rd parties in Smash have ruin all sense of community & integrity the Smash fanbase may have once had.

That all went down the shitter in 2014 when Smashboards got overrun by ResetERA trannies.

honestly, the best first party picks are mostly from the more obscure nintendo franchises

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Smash DLC is all PAID. You have to PAY to get them. They want characters that people would be willing to PAY for. And those guest characters are usually characters that people would be willing to PAY for.

Let's be real for a second. Most first party characters that get requested are d-listers at best. Maybe they could survive as an on-disc fighter, but not separately paid for.

According to the developers themselves, the number of people who buy DLC is way less than the people who bought the base game, and that number drops the farther you go into the games lifecycle. Of course they would choose major games like Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest over obscure titles like Golden Sun.

I wish you the best, fellow chad

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Someone most likely said this already but while Corrin is technically another FE swordsman, could it be that he is also in because he represents another main staple in the series, dragons?

It’s literally confirmed that they wanted to add a character from a new/recent game and Nintendo decided to push for Fates because it wasn’t released in America yet

see He's in because he's the protagonist of Fates.
If they wanted to cover every aspect of Fire Emblem, then not every single rep of them would use a sword.

>No spirit
>No mention at all in Ultimate despite being a main antagonist
>30th year anniversary of Mother
>Year of the pig
Porky mean business

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i see two things wrong with that idea, samurai has never shown to actually care about representing the actual series (only fucking sword fighters no other weapon types then robin's half-magic, zero villains other than maybe robin again on a technicality) and tiki is arguably a more popular dragon from the series even if its for the same reason warioware's ashley is popular

I don't even care if he's playable or not at this point, I just want closure. Where the fuck is he?

You need to represent every facet of a series. Otherwise FE would have mounts, spears and axes. Mario would have an RPG character. Pokémon would have a character for every gen. Zelda would have a non-triforce character. Pikmin would have fauna playable.

But Corrin and Bayonetta weren't DLC, unless you're counting Smash 4 but in that case, you're forgetting Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy. Also, pretty sure Bayonetta is owned by Nintendo now and already was by the time she was added to Smash 4.

You either need to be a promotion, so Nintendo can rake in cash for a separate project, or a character that will bring in even more players. So really the only first party characters who could get in are from Astral Chain, Three Houses, Luigi's Mansion 3, Sword and Shield, and New Horizons.

It's obviously characters who were introduced as DLC.

Reading comprehension
>Bayonetta is owned by Nintendo now
No

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god i want a fucking mount fighter so bad

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>Promotional
Fuck yeah
I really hope the restart to hand it back to Retro is going to be worth it, so many people will lose faith in the company/series otherwise

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Retro have literally never made a bad game. I trust them wholeheartedly.

I know there were some reports from there that people were having a hard time, but honestly it just sounded like they played things fast and loose. That's substantiated by that one poster way back who talked about his time working on Prime. I guess that workplace environment caught up with them and they couldn't churn out a new game for a while because of how messy things could get. I don't think that means the talent is gone though, since Nintendo was impressed with their Prime 4 proof of concept. The workplace culture that made their games great is still there.

>retarded subhumans that want Smash Kart.
Why are people so against this anyway? It's already shifting in that direction. The only argument I have ever seen against it is "I don't want MK threads to turn into rosterfagging" but that's not even a good argument because A. it already happens plenty and B. it really can't get worse because characters in MK don't specifically matter. Characters in Smash are distinct from one another because of their moveset but MK doesn't have that. Characters in MK are only as distinct as their weight class, making them little more than a skin.

Meanwhile, there is an advantage to it in that it brings in more potential item variety, which again, can't even really be rosterfag'd because nobody can argue that X character deserves a slot because they bring the best potential items. It also brings in more variety of track aesthetics and, again, not much to rosterfag about there because it technically doesn't matter. To me, a switch to expand into all of Nintendo makes sense because the series is getting stale by just sticking to Mario and the same old items they've always had with only 1 or 2 new ones each game.

kinda like having fawful too but it'll be really cool if he had Dark Bowser as his install

>first party dlc some of the worst choices in smash history

Maybe it's better if it's all third party.

him, Waluigi, and Paper Mario are the only Mario characters I'd be okay with maybe Toad and Geno too

Third parties are more interesting than the D-List side characters that are left from Nintendo. Every Nintendo All-Star is already in the game besides maybe the Astral Chain protagonist, who literally just debuted anyway.

Corrin should have been the FE newcomer in Ultimate. Lucina, Chrom, Dark Pit and Dark Samus would have been fine as costume alts how they did with Hero.
I guess you could say the same for Pichu, Doc, Y/TLink as well.

This except Dark Samus should've been unique.

Smash Kart is a stupid idea. But let's face it, all the worthwhile Nintendo picks are already in, we're at the bottom of the barrel now.