Monster Hunter

Velkhana is fun and I look forward to playing against him in the real game with the armor and weapons I actually want to use.

Reminder that this is a beta. If something ridiculous happens then it's why they held it in the first place. So they can know what to fix.

With that said, git gud.

Dumb shitter kys

What do you get for Velkhana anyway?

I already fucking hate velkana

I don't understand all of this slinger shit

What are some good HH to use in World?

what monster can I hunt in beta?

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>velkhana's thrusts its tail at you, its really close but not touching you so it misses
>velkhana does it again, but this time it hits
???

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I genuinely thought that was Kushala from the thumbnail

I understand it's 15 minutes but stop fucking dying first god fucking damn

>MHWIBβイヴェカナソロTA(何でもあり) Velkhana solo TA
>6'48 スラアク SA
>7'41 ライト LB
>12'01 チャアク CB
>13'39 ハンマー HAMMER
>14'37 太刀 LS

TA so far.
SA chads it is our time now.

deviljho best

MR Great Jagras
MR Rathalos
MR Anja
Banbaro
Beotodus
Narga
Tigrex
Velkhana

You're a shitter too, user. Watch out

That tail hitbox is bringing back Plesioth PTSD. You don't even need to get hit by it at times. The worst is running in to melee and they strike at someone else. Just simply bumping into it from the back and hit you somehow.

>Narga
Wait, what?

Narga is secretly in the beta replacing Rathalos. It's a rare spawn though, so good luck resetting the quest over and over.

This fucking dragon gives me no openings for recitals.

Secret monster in the Jagras hunt. You have to find it and kill it then quit and it’ll respawn the next time. It replaces either Rathalos or Anjanath.

Fucking flagship is in beta lol, they spoiler every monster wtf, what's the purpose of playing it now

5/10 bait made me reply

What exactly is the excuse for brand new monsters having shitboxes five generations into the franchise? I thought they'd moved past this sort of thing.

Carry me for Velk. i cant do it

inRn CQ00 0000

No way they won't patch out the SA bug.

i'm genuinely mad they spoiled everything

Kush reskin

I know a guy with a PS4 and World, but he doesn't pay for online. Can I still play the beta somehow?

It's the only way they know to make things "hard"

if you're being serious this has been a thing since 4

The quest description for the great jagras quest changes if Narga will show up. As long as you keep abandoning the quest after killing Narga it will always show up.

>OMFG and LOL gestures
God I hate 'gamer culture'

>makes Gravios look like a joke

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Just dont play the beta

ye

>God I hate 'gamer culture'
OMFG
LOL

Have they shortened the window or does Foresight Slash no longer give I-frames?

you dont need ps+ to play online in the beta

2020

OUCH!

>13:39:50
Well.
At least I beat him I guess.

But the website says

>PS4 users will get the beta first. It’s open to all PS4 owners with a PlayStation Plus subscription.

Does anyone have a webm of Zinogre breakdancing in the trailer?

It's not a bug, it's grugsteady being cancer

For MH6 I want the return of hunter schools or at least the option to turn off tutorial messages. I'm sick of hearing NPCs chime in on the side of the screen to tell me shit I never read because I'm too busy playing the fucking game.

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>Narga already spawned four times after resetting
what the fuck is wrong with you fuck off I'm doing Velkhana

I prefer to skip the beta right now, are the extras for clearing it important?

It's consumables. I think one of the Velkhana items is a scale but I'm not sure, might be an item you can sell for gold too. Nothing exclusive, obviously.

It probably just gives you mega potions or some shit

Well then why not go and see faggot.

What are the black spikes in the ice supposed to be

works on my machine

Black spikes

Because if not then I have to set up a PS plus account before going over there.

So you don't play your PS4 online in any manner and yet can play the beta? Because you already own World, or what?

Anyone got the Zinogre IG image?

Black spikes

>they dont show a lot of monsters before release
>wow what a shitty expansion, i bet they add only 5 monsters and collect $40 for it.

>they show a shit ton of monsters before release
>wow, they spoiled everything, im mad

It's pretty much just consumables. There's also one item from each monster like a scale that you get. It's nice but ultimately doesn't amount to much and there's nothing exclusive as far as I know.

Better yet
>they do not show you anything and you have to discover every little change yourself

I think they upped his spawn rate so that more people could try him out. The reason they made his spawn rate so low in the previous beta was to incentivize people to play the beta as long as possible. Now that Velkhana is here, the main draw is no longer Nargacuga, so they can safely up the spawn rate.

>have to stop dicking around and read a wall of text to learn how to play the game
Americans will never accept that.

I do not remember that I've read a manual as a child about how to live.

That's why you're here right now.

>Velkhana is so easy the only way to make it challenging was to give you 15 minutes
Wew lad

prooveses???

salty bitch, solo shit

>Regular hunts (which take 2 minutes tops to solo in World) have a 50 minute time limit
>Behemoth (which takes around 40 minutes to solo) has a 25 minute time limit

lol?

Also elder dragon hunts used to be only 15 minutes before they fucked off and you had to go someplace else to hunt them. Damage carried over though.

I know right? Just like Valstrax.

More like Velkhana is a sperg that can't stand still for single second and forces you to clutch claw everywhere to keep up.
That tail hitbox is janky as fuck, I love it

Namielle wont be that bad, right?

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Rent free

I enjoy everything about Velkhana except those stupid fucking ice crystals that form above you then fall because you can’t fucking see them most of the time. Also his sweeping ice breath sucks balls too. Other than those two annoyances he’s a good fight.

Namielle wont be that bad, right?

WHAT DOES NAMIS ARMOR LOOK LIKE?

It's literally his easiest move
>Velk does her stand up on hind legs but NO ROAR
>cue roll twice to avoid falling ice

I feel like people is still being judgmental and going "WOOOW BULLSHIT" when she has clear tells for pretty much everything but her 360 noscope flying tailswipe

The slope attacks for the hammer are the single worst addition to this entire game. If a zone has a slight incline the weapon is rendered completely useless. Positioning for a charge attack is literally impossible in Velkhana's rest zone.

>those stupid fucking ice crystals that form above you then fall because you can’t fucking see them most of the time
What kind of blind mother fucker are you?

What am I meant to do with this shit? They give you 15 minutes and she spends the whole hunt running away.

I hate sliding with the hammer too, but while it's not a fix, there's a workaround. Don't just release R2 when sliding - instead jump and release to do a charged jump attack, which you can follow-up with the golf swing.

>>>>they dont show a lot of monsters before release
>>>>wow what a shitty expansion, i bet they add only 5 monsters and collect $40 for it.

nigger you forgot how it was 5 months ago when they barely show new monsters and people were bitching how this was a lazy cashgrab?

Plesioth-tier hitboxes on the fucking tail, I am SEETHING at being hit when I clearly rolled out of the way and the tail went over me, and needing to travel another 40 yards to even touch velkhana aaaaaaaa

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What do you think of Velkhana's theme?
youtube.com/watch?v=Seo1DdUP9Ig
I'm pretty iffy on it personally. The overall tune and the piano parts are nice, but it's way too brassy, which doesn't really suit Velkhana at all.

/u/uwutranslator
[Spoiler] :^) [/spoiler]

Good to hear that Velkhana is the love child between Plesioth and Kushala

One of Worlds best themes, without a doubt

Well..uh..
How does someone reply to this

>For MH6
? You can't jump from Monster Hunter 2 (World) to fucking 6

That is nowhere near good enough, but I appreciate it. I don't understand why there just isn't a separate button to start the slope attacks, god, it drives me NUTS.

Is narga the only "secret" monster in the beta?

So what's the consensus on the new weapon moves? Is the SnS back to its rightful MHXX glory days?

>Is the SnS back to its rightful MHXX glory days?
Lol no. Not by a long shot.

But there is a button, you're pressing it, it's R2 for hammer. Like circle for DBs, triangle+circle for CB, etc. It's just overlaps with R2 for non-sliding charged attacks. You can just not do R2 attacks, and go for the triple pound attempts instead, when you're fighting on a slope.

Why does she sleep in uragaans room?

It’s pretty good.

What's Monster Hunter 1?

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I actually struggled to solo Tigrex with the HH, I managed to run out of time twice. Once he gets angry you cant rely on simply walking out of the way of his charging.

That is nowhere near good enough, but I appreciate it. I don't understand why there just isn't a separate button to start the slope attacks, god, it drives me NUTS.

Also is anyone else having a really hard time posting today?

heh, nothing personal...

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>Don't use the most important part of a hammer's moveset on a slope
So this is what it's come to

Yup.
Don't know why.

You are literally on his foot.

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>spams ice breath until I’m in a corner then immediately summons an impassable ice wall so I’m stuck with zero way out
Nice game design there Capcom. Velkhana sucks dick but Banbaro was pretty cool and the new version of Tigrex is good.

>then I have to set up a PS plus account before going over there
What a moron. You don't need PS plus to browse the fucking store.

How's non flier like zinogre manage to reach the new world?

This is one of the tamest anjanath hits.
Come back when it hits you with his jump while you're 20 feet above it.

The second I posted this I do not have any more problems with posting.

I fucking bet they ride a Zorah like a bus

Just roll through the ice breath you dumb shitter.

>Go for the slower, lower damage attack because the devs couldn't be bothered to program a way to not get fucked whenever you're on certain terrain
Fuck you

How have non fliers like wolves manage to reach America?

Maybe they were always there but just evolved slightly differently, same reason Nargacuga is so massive now

Same way Deviljho came to the new world
youtu.be/Ty0aKCrzYII

>all elder dragon go to the new world when they are old and dying
EXPLAIN how kirin can do it

Unless they re-fucked his hitboxes you can roll under his wings with some good timing

He got attached a lot of fulgurbugs to his fur and made them fly across the ocean like the movie up

Yian Garuga kicked him in the balls so hard he flew over the ocean

Same way he spawns in quests.
He Jumped.

According to the leaks he’s in the Guiding Lands which are comprised of sections of different biomes that were ripped out and shuffled together by earthquakes and DRAGON ENERGY, so there were probably some Zinogre in that forest bit when it was ‘removed’ from its natural location. Also it’s possible the New and Old World we’re connected a few thousand years before the events of the game, like how there were land bridges from Australia to Asia and America to Europe several thousand years ago.

standard fare for MH demos/betas, that and rubbish equipment/loadouts

This is payback for calling her a Kushala reskin

Please look forward to Névé Velkhana post-launch :^)

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I remember doing that last beta, I've lost all my skill gains.

that would actually be pretty fuckin cute

Kirin literally teleports

cutefag is biggest fag

The worst thing about it being a kush reskin is it still has the same busted head movement when knocked down. Fucking impossible to hit reliably.

CHINNED.com

Where is it said it’s ALL Elder Dragons? Kirin that reach old age probably just get eaten by Rajang, and if they’re lucky they’ll catch a ride on top of a colossal monster like Zorah.

FUCKING THIS

Lightning, son

JPM is a faggot and so are switchaxes

>Check the comments cause why not
>"The lewdest elder dragon lol xD. Relishing in her nakedness"
Sigh

he breakdance so fast the momentum he creates is enough to launch him across the sea.

wow, so Dual Blade only gets slinger blast, the move that every other weapon also gets? what a disappointment, give it a move to reach higher spots Ryozo

NANOMACHINES SON

>its another easy monster but we cut the timer to make it look hard
Braindead easy.

So AT Xeno?

Of course, they are going to fix every single issue within a week from release!, this is totes a beta!

Eh kinda, the fight isn't that difficult once you get around how it works, the problem is the fucking timer

Have you accepted your true flagship of WU?

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Waiting til next week for velkhana. Really just wanted to see Narga since I couldn't get him to spawn last time and check out the other weapons that I didn't use. Didn't realise the SnS was fun as fuck now

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what weapon did you use?

Post prooveses

Oh god oh fuck I just used DB for the first time and it was actually really fun please don’t let me become a weeb.

it is too late for that

Yeah this happened with nearly every monster added as dlc, once everyone's over it they'll all say that velkhana is the easiest monster ever with their endgame gear.

they're fun, effortlessly stepping and spinning past monster attacks is great and it's one of the best weapons for doing at nergi too

I'm starting to think the Shara Ishvalda leaker was Ryozo

Why?

Velkhana is garbage. The timer isn't the only problem, ther eare just no openings on most of his moves if you use a slow weapon. He is entirely balanced around ranged weapons or dual blades/LS and pretty much everything else is stuck doing no damage. He's hard for all the wrong reasons and it's pretty obvious that the devs are just overreacting to people complaining about the base game being too easy.
What the devs don't get is that these same people will claim anything is easy, hell some retards claimed that extremoth was"easy" and that the only problem was the timer. They're ruining their game to appeal to people that you can't please either way, since they're trolling. Pretty much every other game in the series had much easier monsters than this piece of shit on average, yet they were still fun.

>demon mode is stronger than arch demon mode

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I'm stressed out from Velkhana. I could use a comfort Handler.

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How'd they get Namielle's visual design so right while simultaneously making Velkhana's the most boring thing imaginable?

It's a good fight imo, only takes some getting used to and quite challenging if you play it "honest"

"balanced around ranged weapons"
>Icewalls and pillars everywere

>w-who cares about that crummy anime dog Zinogre user! I'm more than enough right?
>...right?

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I hope Namielle turns into a jellyfish mid-hunt

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Is it just me or the Icewalls and Iceledges don't work the way they're supposed to? They promised us you could use them to do aerial attacks on Velkhana. What gives?

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Man i can't believe nargas tail slam has been beaten. This fuckers hitbox is retarded.

Is Odogaron the only monster to have shit hitboxes in the sense that he straight up can't hit you half the time? The amount of times I've seen this fucker's jaw just phase through a stationary target is ridiculous and I can't think of anything else like it in the series.

Yes, he has literally negative hitboxes
It's so bad that they thought "fuck this monster just redo it from scratch" and gave Ebony Odogaron massive sweeping attacks

Iceledges seems fine to me, as well as the icy floors for instant slide action with hammer and DB.

>More sliding
The fact that people think Ryozo loves hammer when he wants it to be completely unplayable on anything that isn't plain ground is laughable

Most of 4th and 3rd gen
Seregios comes to mind in particular

Astalos and Mizutsune were like that in Gen but I swear they increased the hitbox sizes in GU
Believe it or not but Rajang's fist hitboxes on his punch rush are smaller than his hands, you can get clipped by the animation and not take damage

>icewalls
you can't
>iceledges
yes

never tried the run straight nto backflip from the walls though

>stabs you
>stabs you again
>stabs you AGAIN in rage mode
>also speeds up because fuck you
to be fair you can circumvent it by simply going to her front legs/hug her sides, she needs circular trajectory from her backside to hit something, being it close won't hit you

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Seregios actually hit you when his claws came in contact with your body

It felt like it missed on purpose often, the tail often pushed you harmlessly too

I can omly think of his grab having a generous hitbox. The normal swoops would get really fucky on the slopes in the dunes sometimes though.

Guise what if Velkhana's tail had a parasitical Chameleos on it haha

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>not enough time to kill him in singleplayer
>an absolute visual clusterfuck in multiplayer which isn’t at all aided by faggot longsword mains tripping you at every step
Why do they even do their betas this way? It makes a terrible fucking first impression of Velkhana. I’m sure he’ll be fine in the final product but if they’re gonna make his fight artificially difficult bullshit in the beta then why even fucking bother putting him in it?

Only if you mean wallsliding it off and making the attack land not even close to you. Seregios was a joke.

So any way to counter Vel's AoE like the AT Xeno attack? Or do I just get out of the marked area?

>he
>will be fine in the final product
lol
The only difference you'll say will be some of the demo gear having different numbers in the release.

It just proves that velkhana is a shit monster if the only way to beat him is to have OP gear against him.

unironically roll in just before the first inner circle burst

Run

Velkhana pool

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Then read and masterbate to that doujin

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I think Velkhana has a counter mechanic that completely strips her ice dress in one go. I've only seen it in /mhg/ rooms but we were scratching at our heads at how do we trigger that counter mechanic without going full unga bunga. Anyone knows the exact condition for Velkhana's full undress?

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Handler is for getting NTR'd.

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I just hit her really hard on the head.

I know, but that user asked for comfort handler, not cuck handler

Abusing handler is comforting to me.

I had a Jap shitter use a shock trap on velky, so that was fun

Literally any Kush variant all over again

>fighting Banbaro, hit the ground with the charge blade sword power up and trip him
>Beotodus randomly pops out of the fucking ground alongside Banbaro
Lmao what

I wouldn't be surprised if Kirin is able to walk on water or fly somehow, given how it can run up cliffs.
In the mythology its based on the Qilin float over the ground so it doesn't trample on plants and bugs and MH Kirin is said to avoid walking on plants.

He literally teleports. Kirin has been shown to appear and disappear with a flash of lightning bolt. They can ride the lightning.

Hey pard

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can't wait for the inflation doujins

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>ZSD crutch spam is the optimal way to use Swit-
youtube.com/watch?v=KDYtaOdSb-8

Open your map before you play the game, pard

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wider

Hammer

Defense food buff does basically nothing

>Swaxe is back to unga bunga flinches for days
Just as god intended

What If I fuck this hole?

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You meant
>Sura-

Hey Hunter check out how hard I can pee

I don't know what weapon to keep using.

PPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHTTTTT

>what if I fuck a power washer?
It tickles user, you should go try it right now haha.

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Presumably some consumables and a common part. Based on what I remember receiving from beta Nerg.

Nothing you cant get in the full game.

anjamoms!

Does anyone have a video of the pre order ps4 theme?

HUNTER GET OUT IM PISS

LS nigger btfo

GOOD MORNING HANDLER, CONGRATULATIONS !

its a static theme though

youtube.com/watch?v=cYBN8fVyous

How's Velkhana treating you hunting horn bros?

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>That Anja waist piece
Is that supposed to be an allusion to the Battle set?

Velkhana is fun I guess but practically impossible in multiplayer for this beta. There’s literally not enough time to deplete all that health with the gear you’re given, not to mention that it’s literally impossible to read what the fuck is going on due to all the ice and mist and shit all over the place.

what about this one
>PlayStation™Store pre-order bonuses:
>- Dynamic Theme: Velkhana

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>Lance is by far my worst weapon if I don't know the monster, and the best if I do
I don't understand why this happens.

Didn't the Battle Set have three swords on the back and a very weeb-like waist?

it's awfull, the nerg one is better

I'm finding it a really fun hunt on HH. Lot's of openings for backwards slams while Velk is in the air.

So I managed to completely destroy Velkhana with DBs but only because of its speed and high evasion abilities. The fire element helps a lot too. I can see that my run would fail with any other weapon, the fight seems to not favor more of the heavier weapons

Yeah, Battle had the swords on the back and the waist was basically slutwear.
It's just the way the sheath looks that makes me think of the Battle set.

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i play lance, so far it's hell

How do I Lance Velkhana? I can deal with the fight itself more or less well, I think it's the constant chasing that makes me fail.

youtube.com/watch?v=UhsGUaKwmVs&feature=youtu.be

GS does well

Real talk, why's the MH team so fuckin based? Whole series is just straight up amazing.

Do any of the demo sets have Guard Up available?

OK please give me tips on soloing velkhana with hammer
This probably my least favorite monster in the series, it's broken and unfair

>all these people crying about velkhana
wew

There is a guard up on direwolf chestpiece
Offensive guard lv1
constitution x3

I believe Direwolf does, yes, but I don't bother blocking much if I can help it, makes me waste time and tends to push me away. Old habits die hard.

MH is literal garbage but this game seems even worse so far

Sure thing bud

>Direwolf Itself is shit outside of the chest and arms
Such a shame.

I’m shit at the game so I don’t think I’m gonna even try Velk, I know I’ll just time out. Still excited for IB tho.

Does constitution affect blocking?

wait a fucking minute

This Velkhana theme isn't the one that keep playing in the trailers.

Massive autism about anything to do with oversized lizards and oversized weapons, and also they're basically given free reign by Capcom due to the series success.

Yes

What is that attitude? Don't you have blood in your veins? At least try before giving up. You've been given a shot at trying Velkhana before release, use it.

More like Namlet. Why is it so small, it looks so massive in its official render

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wtf is this trash

It reduces the stamina cost but not the pushback
Lance and Gunlance need Guard +3 to negate pushback on all but a few attacks, anything beyond that just reduces chip damage.
IIRC Charge Blade only needs Guard +1 as long as your shield is charged since guard points already have further reduced knockback like Lance's guard dash, but CB needs a lot of skills in general.

Weapons with smaller shields benefit all the way up to Guard +5 but you really shouldn't be blocking that often with other weapons if you can help it.

Should I run that over Atk Up/Agitator?

can i get now?
i preordered

Because it has to fit on the coral highlands you daft fuck.

Corgi legs

And thank fuck for that, whatever was playing in the trailers absolutely fucking sucked.

Apparently its wings can change shape a lot which was probably part of it. You can see it a little in that clip.

Ryozo's father is Capcom's CEO, he can basically do whatever he wants.

It only affects how much stamina you use while blocking, not how much you can actually block, so it's probably best to go for offensive skills unless you actually find yourself running out of stamina a lot on the lance

Shortstack

You really want him to hate the game huh

>Ryozo's father is Capcom's CEO
wait what ....
>it's fucking real
daym long live monhun

I still have one question

What was the monster that dropped from the Alcove for the Game Informer guys

Not at all, Velkhana itself is not that hard. Might as well give it a try before calling it quits. That defeatist attitude is not something I'll ever support.

Probably Viper Kadachi

If you ever run into a fight where you have stamina issues you're better off packing Dash Juice anyways, or you just need to manage your stamina better

I was hyped for iceborne until I tried Velkhana. This demo helped me realize this game is trash at least.

velk room:

fkhm k4

Only real problem I'd have with stamina management is Iceblight, which cuts deep into my stamina, otherwise I can do well enough.

lmao velkhana is harder to solo than extremoth
and i refuse to spam clutch claw with rocksteady despite it being the intended way to win

Full game makes stacking elemental resist easy enough already, nevermind what it will be like with better decorations/slots in Iceborne.

Viper Tobi Kadachi, most likely.
The real question is what the fuck the dude was talking about here at 13:23, because he's definitely not referring to Viper Tobi in this case.
youtu.be/jFre9rbEHTg?t=803

Most of the fast kill vids I'm seeing besides Switch Axe are just using Clutch Claw to start the fight since Velk doesn't attack on sight, and then whenever it does the "HEY USE THE CLAW RETARD" flinch. That GS vid earlier uses it to dodge the ice breath at once point.
Actually in that Switch Axe video most of the claw usage is in Axe mode, for the better flinch chance maybe? Only used the sword mode claw to do the extended discharge when Velk was downed.

I-is the hunter ok?

Probably Viper Tobi but the retarded in the GI video talks about it being a monster he used on his team in Stories which I don't get.

lol

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ZSD claw spam is still better. The run you linked did less DPS with the axe, but was faster because he landed both boulders, and paralyzed it before it could flee.

The Oroshi run involved him flying back to camp and forgetting where the monster was.

Yian Garuga?

Don't worry he drank a Dash Juice

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ZSD claw spam is still the fastest way to kill Velkhana. Someone is going to break 5 minutes.

Wasn't he just referring to khezu/giggi being in those sorts of ice environments in previous games?

I was busy and could only play the beta 10 minutes but doesnt it feel way sluggier than the main game. Might be tbe framerate or input lag but my character didnt move as I wanted

so is it a new area?

I don’t get clutch claw usage
Can somebody give me a rundown on how to use effectively?

It's not in the base world for sure.

I'm aware, this is more regarding the limited options in the beta.

Listen to what he says, it doesn't sound like it. It also seems unlikely just because the guy clearly isn't that knowledgeable about Monster Hunter, I doubt he'd just bring up some trivia like that unprompted.

seconding this
t. can't get used to change

Imagine Bazel invading an ED hunt

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Grab parts of the monster that won't shake you off while they're doing another attack. Preferably a part you want to be hitting anyways so you can tenderize it.
Or use it to close gaps quickly.

I can't believe iceborne is fucking dead
Velkhana is the worst monster ever made

Well I guess we'll have to wait a week to find out whether it really was just him recalling a monster or not

Because the MH team has been one of the few things that kept Capcom alive even during its shittiest periods and they always made money without anyone telling them how to do, so they are basically allowed to do anything they want.

You all were born betas so of course you fags got in

>using Clutch Claw to start the fight since Velk doesn't attack on sight, and then whenever it does the "HEY USE THE CLAW RETARD" flinch.
Explain to me the Clutch Claw strats.
Am I screwed as a Lance since I can't shoot it at will?

>just claw a part of the monster that is safe to hit aka back legs
>now ignore every attack screw spacing and hit the back legs for the rest of the hunt until the monster dies
easy

That doesn't even make sense.

Is the head Velkhana's weakpoint or is he on some shitty memery like Lunastra

So every single fight from now on will be started with luring a monster to a wall, then clutch claw, then hit the wall and hit it while it's knocked out for 10 seconds, right? If you want to be the most efficient and quickest.

God, this is awful.

How often should I claw? As soon as the wound is healed?

Use Clutch Counter on attacks that don't have multiple hitboxes.

Capcom adds overpowered gimmick
Monsters have to be tougher to not fall too fast to claw spam, forcing the players to spam claw to have a chance.
Bravo Capcom!

Who's this fuck suddenly coming with trash opinions clearly befitting those who haven't played the beta and only took notes from TAutists?

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Dumb nigger. Read the thread first at least. Clutch claw spam is slower than an actual good player like shows

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Beat this guy with a competent team of only short range weapon guys. Every team I had with long range guys couldn't down it. Basically you need to get a few downs on him is really critical and make him skip 4th area right to his final death spot or else you will lose on time. remember to not down the boulder in the second area until the full team is close to deal damage when it gets stunned - good time to use might pill also. Eat for attack up M. Also swap out armour pieces and don't use full sets to make best use of the skills they have. Good luck geezers

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Explain Clutch Claw please
>does the newly created weakspot return to normal
>any place on the monster's body can be changed into a weakspot correct so why do weakspots still exist when they dont serve a purpose anymore
Thanks in advance. I love IB but CC looks insanely trash.

The ZSD spam video used the boulders and paralysis knives too

What TA autists? The clutch claw is overpowered and you are literally forced to waste time starting every single hunt with it if you want to be efficient. It's trash and a cinematic experience more than anything.

>shitposting for the sake of shitposting
>not even about the content discussed
>to the point the initial content is distorted beyond measure
It's all so tiresome.

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Then fuck off and stop crying?

We just wanted a good game, it's not our fault the gooks at Capcom can't stop adding retarded shit FUCKING NO ONE ASKED FOR. Iceborne would be perfect but no, they have to add some retarded nonsense.

>>does the newly created weakspot return to normal
Yes, it doesn't have as big of an effect on parts that are already weakpoints (still worth it for the extra affinity from Weakness Exploit though)

>>any place on the monster's body can be changed into a weakspot correct so why do weakspots still exist when they dont serve a purpose anymore
The demos haven't had many monsters with really hard hitzones yet so who knows. I think it made people stop bouncing on Narga's wings but didn't make them a real weakpoint still.

Get used to fast Kinsects I can't seem to get good essence on a slow one.
Why the fuck did they give us 2 IG's in the beta but provide us with only one kinsect?

You just have shit standards and other people don't. Tolerate other opinons.

Cheers, appreciate it. I do hope CC gets nerfed a bit, MH's combat relies on weakspots being a thing. Might as well play Souls then if spacing is no longer a thing. Yuck.

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>Am I screwed as a Lance since I can't shoot it at will?
yeah you can. Shot guard, r3, shoot claw at will.

>MH's combat relies on weakspots being a thing.
Not since World. Even without CC, 60% of monsters in World have their weakspots all over their bodies, when the whole body is a weakspot, nothing is. They are just walking pinatas. It's dumbed down as fuck and incentivizes just spamming with GS as long as you get TCS in. Head sniping is dead. Precision is dead. Positioning is dead. Timing is dead. Spacing is dead.

See Vaal, Kulve, Xeno, Odogaron, Jagras, Diablos with his new head weakspot. They will probably do the same to Narga and Zinogre.

Holy shit what is Capcom doing with my boy MH?

Can't we just ban doomposters?

Watch any Japanese God TA on YT and tell me spacing isnt a thing in World. Just because the monsters dont do the "slow 90 degrees head turn", so the white kid knows when to hit the monster, anymore doesnt mean spacing isnt a thing. Go back to FU boomer. CC sucks though.

The shittier the hitzone the more effective the wound is. Having said that, even without the weakness exploit bonus, a 45 will become a 58.

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We already fought Narga in the demo retard, its the same as ever.
Diablos is still weaker on its neck/underbelly than anywhere else unless you're using an gunner weapon
Jagras is literally the first monster you fight and is just as weak as Velocidrome and Jaggi

>seething GS main still mad CritDraw is not a thing anymore

Your brains fried when you were forced to use more than one move

No, the ZSD video missed a boulder. The other video hit both. The ZSD video also wasted 1.5+ minutes when Velkhana flew away, and he forgot where the monster was.

In terms of DPS, ZSD claw spam is still much higher.

>Oh man i miss braindead predictable AI that I can abuse rather than feeling you're fighting against a live monster in an actual hunt

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Dumb nigger. Watch the videos. The ZSD video missed a boulder and also let Velkhana flee and sleep, and he forgot where Velkhana was.

ZSD claw is optimal and someone is going to break 5 minutes at this rate.

>ZSD from CC uses up one fifth of your bar
>GROUND ZSD uses up more than half
This is the one thing people need to take notice

Boomers cant adapt on the fly, their gameplan is "the monster must do what I want to do at all times and if it doesnt I will get angry."
If it were up to them we'd still have the extremely unnatural robotic AI that looks about 2 decades outdated.

I don't understand why you're bringing up the 90 degree turning when the user was talking about hitzones, the AI has nothing to do with it.

Are boomers autists in disguise?

when it comes to MH, they are exclusively extreme autists and not even in disguise

Holy shit even 4 LS no deaths and still run out of time, always make it to when it's limping.

>GROUND ZSD uses up more than half

That's not true. Ground ZSD uses about 1/3. Mounted uses up about 1/4, but you regain that much very quickly.

Shhh, don't mention this kind of truth, the previous games were absolute masterworks when it comes to AI and combat speed/fluidity, everyone knows that.

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AI and hitzones work in tandem. If the AI isn't good at protecting its hitzones it doesn't matter where the hitzone is or if it makes 90deg turns. You people love to bitch and moan about monsters being hard and damaging too much but simultaneously complain the monsters take too much damage.
Previous titles had no damage numbers and monsters had much less hp as well.

Do you not understand the concept of spacing and how they relate to hitzones? And the oldskool head turn literally was spacing for babbys. Check out any Japanese AT Xeno Hammer TA, its beautiful high IQ spacing everywhere. Spacing is in MHW.

yes, it is optimal to knock the monster into the wall at the start of EVERY hunt.
yes, the claw is shit.

what's in the balloons?

This. Monsters feel like actual living beasts right now instead of an AI cycling through attacks.

Nourishing extract

protip: never helmsplitter
always have a foreskin ready
iai slash often for the needed bar to foreskin

>Monsters feel like actual living beasts right now
start every hunt with clutch claw, monster runs into a wall like a retard.
spam clutch claw on monsters, who don't even do anything while you rape their face.

yeah, "like actual living beasts."

>protip: never helmsplitter
Why?

Nourishing extract

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THOSE FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE AND THEIR HEAD TURNS

opens up yourself to any of his attacks that apparently also reachs vertically

Of course it's optimal to do splitter>iai when they're downed but it's a scarce opportunity

monsters are more retarded than ever when you consider mounting and clutch claw.

OK i soloed velkhana with GS (I had to use the palico)
Everything about this monster is horrible. No openings, aoe spam, have to chug nulberry as soon as you get hit once by an any aoe that's the size of the room, and the fact that the timer is ridiculously strict just turns what would already be a horrible quest into one of the worst MH experiences ever.
There is no good way of damaging this monster with GS without either :
-headlocking him by getting him to hit a wall at the start
-having someone else to draw aggro away from you
I hope to God the other monsters aren't this shit, but having a flagship be such a shitshow hurts.

What is nourishing extract even

just use SA and spam claw

No idea, I only know that the only monsters dropping it are Paolumu and Odogarron, and it's a pain in the ass to farm.

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Usually the hind legs are a fairly safe place on any monster right. Why not CC those and wack away?

Yeah no. Fuck Velkhana and fuck CC.

you are going to give me a link, right?

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the clutch claw is extremely strong and you can't complain the game is too hard if you aren't using it

blame the retarded XX devs who are obsessed with putting in shitty, game-defining mechanics in their games.

Velkhana doesn't have any moves that hit its wings, and only has a few that hit its head. So you can spam Clutch Claw on its face with Greatsword and you'll do very well.
Please understand.

How do you do the Zero Sum Discharge from the claw, do you need to do the discharge on the ground first then the claw attack, whenever I get the claw grapple there's no prompt for the Zero Sum.

Are the iai slashes even worth it outside of spirit regen?

It's only great with SA, with GS it's okay I suppose
Regardless it's very unfun to use

>People complaining about the time in the beta
So all these people never played a MH beta/demo before huh?

charge your sword you dumbass

I played the one for World and it was so easy it was a non-issue.

I think the gamescom folks are just retarded, they said it was batlike, White, had it in stories, and climbed walls. This was before the barioth reveal right? If so then it was him if not then it was viper, and if not him then I hope to fuck that one if the secret monsters is a brand new hoarfrost apex that uses the zignore Frame and is a great wild or something cool

I soloed with GS and had no issues
Maybe you should git gud

Some random catalyst. Sounds like it's actually collagen or some tissue juice.
Dash juice is the cum

Is Nami in the Beta?
If yes, how's her fight?

no

no
and shes cute

See the jap GS kill posted earlier for pointers, Velk leaves its head pretty wide open most of the time

its your best strategy, so you better learn to spam that claw.

Is CC worse than temporal mantle?

Fucking Velkcunta, you wish you were a Kushala reskin. You're a fucking icy Lunastra.

The big counter is pretty fucking strong if you time it correctly. Even if you don't it's a faster but weaker way to spend bar than Helm Splitter

>forced to

Bitch, please. Velkhana wishes she were half as good as Lunastra.

Dodo drops it too doesn't it.

No
Am xcuck
Atleast not px cuck.
Unrelated but whats in the layered armor tab in the beta?

It has the same gimmick but with ice.

Fuck off Teo your wife is a shit
A SHIT

>Lunastra
>Good
Sorry champ but those two words aren't allowed to be used together.

ANTI-CLAW FAGS BTFO. Switch axe about to break 5 minutes with ZSD spam.

youtube.com/watch?v=7_bFt1JajA4

BTFO, claw is still optimal.
BTFO, you were wrong

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How does the beta work am I using my character or just a predetermined character?

>fight Velkhana
>defeated him on third try
>forgot to screenshot win screen
>attempt to fight him again
>2 hours later and I can't kill him fast enough anymore
Did I just luck out that one time?

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SWITCHAXE CHADS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

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Had the most retarded faggot ever join my SOS flare.

At the hunt for the fucking shitty balloon mouse thing.
He joins.
Fight with me for a bit.
Balloon ouse fucks off.
I go follow it
This fucking nigger fights the flashy raptor boy for the rest of the fight for some dumb fucking reason.
I spam my signal and eventually he comes over.
Balloon faggot goes to diff area
Guy leaves

HAHAHAHAHA all these retards doubting how shitty the claw is
>Clutch claw spam is slower than an actual good player
AHGAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

You're just shitters. She's fine.

WHY IS EVERYONE SO FUCKING BIG NOW JESUS CHRIST

Hey fuck you, also thanks!

He was teaching you why you shouldn't be a SOS using bitchFlare.

Is the clutch claw spam strong only with SA?

>people bad at videogames are now flocking to the SA because of how OP it is
lol

seems like it

>actually caring about dps in a monhun game

Fuck off you autistic speedrunning tranny.

>SA went from highest IQ in World to lowest with CC
Welp, time to find a new main.

Is it my fault MHW lobby system is fucking shit you fucking kike.

So it's nothing. I can't remember a single MH where one retarded new gimmick wasn't strong as fuck with one weapon.

>what if he gave the players a way to instantly teleport to the monster's head, at any time, from long range. and many monsters wont have any way to deal with this.
>and we allowed players to use ZSD from here?

How are these retards in charge of making a videogame? In 2 minutes you can see why this is horrible game design.

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KELBIDROMEBOW

why would you waste time trying to play SA normally anymore? Claw spam is:
>Easier
>Kills things faster

It's the optimal way to play for everyone, not just speedrunners. The claw should be completely removed from the game. Even with a 30 second cooldown, it would still get spammed.

Capcom made Marvel vs Capcom AKA the most broken fighting game of all time and DMC AKA the most freeform broken action game of all time. Just saying.

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SA is the only one that gets easy access to their strongest attack out of it yeah. Otherwise it's only good for the tenderizing and gap closing.

That's what you get for playing low-rank babies

>highest IQ in World
>implying
It was always high risk low reward unga stick.

Sure you did

Nigga I just bought the game so I could play Iceborne next week. Fuck off with your shit.

>from long range.
The claw reaches about as far as a Lance poke the fuck are you talking about. And most of the claw shots you can do with your weapon drawn like the SA extended discharge or the SnS uppercut are even shorter.

>mad CB babby detected
Dont you have to shieldbabby GP some shit while having mobility and OP damage?

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What do you think Naimelles armor will look like?

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>back before anything ever came out I said they should add a grappling hook to SnS
>they actually add one for everyone and it's broken as shit
Damn monkey's paw.

youd be hard to find a mh game without a dumbfuck thing that made a weapon wayyyy to strong. its literally only op with the SA and is middling to pretty good at best with most other weapons

>implying
CB is just as unga as SA but worse due to being stupid strong, you deserve each other

3058051

just like nergigante everyone is butthurt calling the game shit until they fight velkhana with actual good armor loadouts.

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80's fullbody mirror sparkly discoteque aesthetic

is this mantles all over again? do people really have 0 self control when it comes to non-mandatory mechanics in video games? Abusing temporal/rocksteady/evasion mantles to go full unga is the optimal way to play the game. It's also stupid and completely unnecessary unless you're some sort of autist who thinks clear times are the only thing that matters.

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the claw has much longer range than melee attacks.

>easier
>kills things faster
t.autistic speedrunning tranny

>It's the optimal way to play for everyone, not just speedrunners.

It's optimal if you're a sad cunt who obsesses over numbers, If you just want to enjoy the fucking game you'll play the way you enjoy, not what is "optimal".

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This but Jellyfish/Octopus themed. The big octopus head forms an afro.

at least with mantles, you still play the game normally.

The Claw is just spamming a QTE button until the monster dies. It's very easy and does the most DPS. It nullifies your entire weapon's moveset and is a piece of crap.

Fuck meant for this autist, sorry user.

>It's optimal if you're a sad cunt who obsesses over numbers, If you just want to enjoy the fucking game you'll play the way you enjoy, not what is "optimal".
So you're agreeing that it is optimal.

And this is still with demo equipment
For all we know Greatsword or IG or CB could get retardedly overtuned endgame weapons again and the claw won't even matter vs the weight of sheer numbers

Probably like discount nakarkos looking armor with some big whiskers or wing aesthetics.

>you still play the game normally
You could make this argument for rocksteady and evasion but with temporal you're HARDLY playing the game in the same way.

All the CB players ended up spamming SAED, so you are wrong. Everyone will be spamming claw with SA because it's the best and easiest way to play.

>It's very easy and does the most DPS.
Isn't this true with only SA?

Calm down with the hyperbole, or show us someone killing Velk in record time using nothing but clutch claw

Ffffuck off
Getting constantly tripped and swatted by instant swipes from faggot monsters like kush is cancer as well as roar spam
Rocksteady is based.
Not a fan of temporal but vs aoe spamming monsters its a blessing since you can kill it faster and get the shit hunt over with

Even if it's only for SA, it's unacceptable. It makes the entire SA moveset obsolete and useless.

Right user. That's why all those shitters dislike Lavasioth.

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Even then waiting for save moments to claw without attacking at all is just a huge waste of time.

>iceborne will be spam claw:the game
Decades of experience right there

>show us someone killing Velk in record time using nothing but clutch claw
Here you go retard, fastest Velkhana kill is just spamming ZSD claw. Not even a perfect run, and SA will break 5 minutes by the afternoon:

youtube.com/watch?v=7_bFt1JajA4

But it's still ten times better than mantles, because those were OP for all the 14 weapons.

plus im fairly sure capcom keeps their eyes on TA runs for balancing, them seeing sub-6min runs on Velk will probably lead to slight tuning on the ZSD

Get on a community party
The story mode isn't worth SOS shit

Fine, you're an Alatreon reskin. Happy?

Post your times, bois

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Velkhana has got to be the worst flagship yet. Decent fight, I guess, but worst design that nobody will care to remember in 5 years.

>all
>use cb and dont spam saed like an autist

>you are wrong
Ok tranny settle down, not using the most dps combo makes you "wrong". Actual state.

You really think there is a Capcom employee watching TA runs on YT right now? KEK.

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I said NOTHING but Clutch Claw. Show me a video of that. I don't want to see a single wild swing.

>GUUYYYYYYS THIS THING IN THE BETA IS OP
>THERE IS NOW WAY THEY ARE GONNA FIX IT IN THE BASE GAME
>EVEN THO THEY ALREADY REBALANCED THE WHOLE GAME AND MADE FIXES AFTER THE LAST BETA

bullshit, if capcom gave a fuck then they wouldnt have had temporal mantle for over a year, nor would they have cluster spam or SAED spam

switchaxe GODS will be top tier but will have to sell their soul to do it, playing the game like a QTE simulator.

They nerfed ledge hopping aerial spam for Iceborne so it's pretty clear they notice dumb shit like that.

Stop fucking sperging about legitimate criticism
Jesus Christ

all the guy does is spam clutch claw. he has to get his amp buff but that's it. you've been BTFO.

4tGu Pc00 0000
Get in here, scrubs.

Yeah, a year and half later it was nerfed. You are very correct. SA mains, prepare to drop the weapon in 2022. NERFS INCOMING.

>use the wedge beetle to get to Velkhana after he goes to Uragaan's track
>For some reason my character doesn't jump high enough to grab onto the wall
Yeah ok, it's like Ryozo himself doesn't want you to kill it

the funny thing is, his time would have been even faster if he didnt waste in axe mode that one time.

found it on my own browsing odogaron_armor for a while but thanks nontheless annon

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>Sharpness is at maximum!

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Based retard. Go back to your valor stance weeb parry LShit

"legitimate criticism" is telling this thing is overpowered and try to make Capcom notice it

"This thing is overpowered so World is ruined and everything is shit", what they are saying here, is shitposting

i only play SA, i fucking hate iframes and hate 4th gen.

it's not my fault the devs are completely retarded and invented the Clutch Claw, the worse mechanic in the series since mounting / styles.

You're utter trash at this game if you think 30 min is short.

You are not being objective, only a few posters are shitposting while the majority just has problems with CC the way it is currently.

3/4

As an SA main, Iceborne is ruined by this mechanic. Hunting monsters won't be fun, as my entire moveset is now obsolete.
>Just gimp yourself bro!
Retard

>content finally drowns out the worst shitposting
>have to wait 5 months myself and by the time that version is out all the people bored of the original release won't leave the threads alone
It hurts a little.

The literal response to my post was doomposting

I can smell you in here listfag

>Sharpness is an obsolete mechanic in world because of master touch

the thing is, a Capcom employee is asking people to record clutch claw abuse footage so he can nerf it and people rather shitpost than doing it

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the clutch claw is shit and we are allowed to criticize it. if left unchecked, it makes the entire SA moveset obsolete.

Don't use it then

already said my piece, hex is based

>just gimp yourself bro! Don't use SAED since it's overpowered.
This is bad game design.

Who the fuck is hexhexhex and does it work for Capcom? Dont think so

Drachen armor isn't coming back so eh, unless Kaiser X armor is totally retarded this time instead of being filled with Latent Power like the HR sets

based retard

Hex isn't a Capcom employee though is he? He's a PC modder who made craftable kjarr shit and adjusted deco drop rate mod

What is the ultimate brainlet filter in MHW?

the game is fine without mantles, it'll be fine without clutch claw

>a Capcom employee
It's a discord tranny LARPing as a super secret Capcom employee. No "employee" plays 3000 hours of Final Fantasy 14 and admits to playing while at work.

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he got hired by Capcom like 2 or 3 months ago, he is working on monster AI and apparently tool interaction

Arena quests.

You haven't even read my post
The point is not criticizing the mechanic, which is fine
The point is that you're using this excuse to pretend Iceborne is already ruined and there is not a single possibility Capcom will ever address it

almost everyone used mantles. almost everyone will use clutch claw.

If a single broken mechanic is enough to ruin your enjoyment, then by that logic, 3U 4U and XX are shit because of kelvin bow, mounting, AED spam, and styles. At least with Iceborne they’ll fix it just like what they did with World beta. Pointless shitposting

it's ok user, you keep doing epic memes in here while people who actually are doing something do their jobs.

Does anyone even use latent power? It's so random and situational. They even nerfed agitator, a skill nobody used because of insane slot cost. What is Capcom doing?

They didn't address SAED for over a year.
They didn't address temporal mantle for a year.

In the current state, Iceborne IS ruined for SA players. The entire weapon moveset is obsolete.

this is my problem with your view, why does it matter what other people use when you are free not to use these mechanics?

Kelbi bow*

But the Iceborne team is addressing pretty much everything, even shit that was in the last beta

>Just gimp yourself bro! Don't use the most powerful things given to you.
This is bad, unbalanced game design.

If Capcom gave us a button that instantly did 1000 damage, and could be spammed, you would defend it.

Maybe Iceborne made Agitator easier to get
World made Latent Power count damage mitigated (by blocking, rocksteady, etc) and not just damage taken but it's still meh at best, especially since it takes 5 points to max.

We'll see but I wouldn't get my hopes up. The Clutch Claw is broken design and can't really be fixed in it's current state. The only options would be to remove it (not going to happen), or give it a high cooldown (45+ seconds, not going to happen).

Or reduce the damage and you're done with it?

single monster arena quests are fine in theory if not for consistent 2 player scaling which makes it a fucking drag because you're constantly having to sharpen and either waste cc time or intentionally faint to do so when solo. The dual monster arena quests are simply shit.
I would, because there would be no reason to use it. I play the game how I want to play it, which is a very foreign concept to you weirdos who think that losing out on a single second of constant dps is against the law

Why the fuck is there so much noise about clutch claw now, and now during the other two betas?

>that faggot
>capcom employee
are you stupid? where did you even get that from?

>c-clutch c-c-claw is bbbbbbroken
>iceborne is ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bingers playing it TACTICAL. Pretending they actually played the beta and that they aren't watching zoomer streams to find something to shitpost about.

>reduce the damage of ZSD
The problem is there can be no balance here. Either you nerf ZSD damage to the point it is useless, or you nerf it slightly and it still gets spammed because it's still your best DPS option.

Yeah. There a thing called rocksteady and barrel bombs. Nobody does that in kulve though because it's more fun to actually use your weapon despite crafting and spamming mega barrel bombs on kulve does 1160 damage in 2 button presses to a maximum of 10k damage.

>WORLD IS TOO EASY
ok we makku hardaru now
>WORLD IS TOO HARD
whatta fucku u gaijin want

> bingers have regressed to defending mantles now
Pathetic.

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People that haven't actually played the beta and are just watching other people play it probably

twitter.com/TaurusOxford/status/1167462968260485120

not gonna lie, I still love seeing vets cart and rage about it

>actually defending Cruch Claw and QTE spam
Pathetic, it's horrifically bad game design. Velkhana doesn't even have moves that hit its wings, you can just hang out on its wings for 15 minutes and he can't do anything.

He didn't make it in bros...

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your sub 5 min velk run w/out claw pls

Adding a cool down on clutch claw will improve the mechanic immensely. Just like the cooldown on the witcher igni emote, you will have to play it tactical. Chose to stun leshen out of his attacks or save igni in case a teammate gets vine'd.

people are going to break 5 minutes today, and they will do it by spamming claw.

>He

Velkhana starts flying in the air doing the ice breath attack, use that opportunity to clutch claw her

>Just gimp yourself bro!
>Complains about mechanic that does more damage

What do you want friend ? A mechanic that's useless cause it does shit damage ?

based retard

A cooldown won't mean shit. You will still spam it whenever it is up, without question.
Looking at the 5 minute SA video, he uses a Claw about every 30 seconds anyway. So unless it's a minute+ it won't matter

>says retarded thing
>no u
nice

FU did it right by separating solo arena and group quests. If we had those in World, dual monsters wouldn't be so bad.

Velkhana is a monster not your waifu

>What do you want friend ?
A balanced game without shit mechanics like the Clutch Claw.
Every hunt in Iceborne will start with you clawing the monster into a wall. Wow how fun!

It is confirmed male dummy, not your shit waifu.

You're correct.
Now Namielle, she's my waifu.

everyone doomposting about clutch claw is a mantle abusing, drachen wearing, cluster bomb spamming, aerial greatsword slamming failed speedrunner who is incapable of thinking for themselves
prove me wrong

beta flagship cycle goes like this every time you tards

>new flagship beta
UNGA BUNGA ME TA RUN NOW
>carts
WOWWWWWWWWWWWW NICE GAME DESIGN
SHILLS EATING THIS SHIT UP
>actual game with real gear and time limit
WOWWWWWWWW TOO EZ I THOUGHT THIS WAS G RANK LULULUL

1 slot open

Velkhana is my fucking bitch, I'm going to force him to dress as a cute anime girl and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

>everyone
Its been one guy crying about it ever since that switch axe video from last week
Yes it look strong on Switch Axe but acting like the game is ruined over that is stupid.

Rewatch the video. He's spamming it with rockstead again and again right after each discharge finished. A cool down will literally stomp all these problems away. Choose to make a weak spot or use zsd with claw, that choice will make players go back and forth and juggle the timers

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theyre not adding a cooldown to their new prized mechanic

>one guy
Fuck off
Peppo, one of the best speedrunners in MH community, is saying claw is so OP he'll probably quit
twitter.com/tds_Peppo/status/1167451525926543362

Bing bong wahoo

Ok, this looks like shit, wtf happened to my weapon?

13:02 LS

I love chicken reactions. Do you have any more?

Yes, it's one guy

iceborne.seiken.io/quests/beta-quest/6-velkhana-of-the-frost/

Orochi is on the bottom of this list and he's the pioneer of the CC ZSD meme

Only him and Yawara adopted it

The others literally doesn't even use CC ZSD outside of mandatory weakspot exploits

>claw is OP on one weapon only so i'll quit playing a game with 13 others
FUCKING
WHITE
PEOPLE

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Are there any ZSD spam vids on the other monsters?

>the guy with by far the fastest time is using it
Yeah and so will everyone else, because Claw spam is optimal.

But Yawara is #1...

>Speedrunners
Opinion discarded speedrunners complain about everything

>CLAW SPAM IS OPTIMAL WITH ONLY ONE WEAPON
>GAME BAD
>QUIT PLAYING GAMES

keep in mind most of this board are PC players who are not in the beta and are watching youtube videos.

>HH made the list
What

Lots of people main SA. Iceborne just made their entire weapon moveset obsolete.

Who care about your literal who eceleb? We're not TA retards.

"not completely optimal" isn't "obsolete" you absolute moron
no one cares outside of speedrunners

It's top tier my mang, we made it

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QuA is an amazing player.

Dropping the game because Claw is strong with one weapon would be like dropping Gen because LS had the best arts.

It's the first day of the beta being out and HH got a lot of speed and damage buffs for Iceborne. All of those times will probably drop over the weekend.
And the Echo Note attack is pretty strong on a stationary target.

how is lance vs velkhana thats the only weapon i can play

It is obsolete. Just like how all the CB players only used SAED spam, because it was the best.

You don't have to be a speedrunner and play the game like you want man. Nobody's gonna laugh at you

Good.