Every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"

>same thing as OP
>except you get ganked occasionally

yea fun

>Why do you enjoy this game that I don't like!?

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He described pve combat only. I can barely tolerate dungeons or grinding mobs but I still love the game because of pvp. It's a completely different experience.

>>reasons to get this game
Nostalgia mostly you meet some cool ppl..
you make kids rage and kill them.
other than that idk I quit after burning crusade expansion did all the quests with my irl gf but we broke up and every memory was her.. this is like going back in time before her. :D

Not OP, but can you or any other classic fags actually explain WHY you like it?
I see you all defending it, but outside of faggots spouting "We're going home!", I don't ever see anyone post any tangible reasons for what is so great about classic.

At least your detractors are listing reasons for their dislike.

WoW is like a mobile game before mobile games actually existed
Prove me wrong

Why does posting have such a long delay now?

Balancing and nostalgia
memories, cool people you meet and barrens chat.
battlegrounds were a blast to especially if you had a geared out shadow priest in low lvls

>blizzard
>good writing

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I like it and theres nothing you can do about it.

Also your arguments against this game are:
>I dont like video games
>Its too popular
>It attracts new audiences while I specifically stated that I hate video games

Honestly, cope.

Game is fun as fuck and you're a faggot. Best MMO of all time. BC makes it even better (and well get it)

>explain why you like vanilla
ok here are reasons
>those dont count because i dont like them
>why cant vanilla fags say why they like it though

Can you just read some of them? I mean Duskwood quests are interesting to follow. Old Blizz apparently were able to write good story

>every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"
so pretty much what it's always been
>combat is braindead literally "click on enemy and spam the same hotkeys over and over"
so pretty much what it's always been
>playerbase is mostly just nostalgic boomers who were too young to see the flaws when they first played WoW
so pretty much what it's always been
>new players consist entirely of zoomers dumb enough to fall for twitch marketing hype
so pretty much what it's always been
>long queues just to get into the game (inexcusable when the game is already ruined by layering to supposedly overcome this)
so pretty much what it's always been

Here's a pretty wallpaper

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QUESTION. What server do you guys reccomend? Is there a paid server change? I never played an mmo so I'm not sure if I'm into this. On the blizzard launcher it says the first 20 levels are free to play?

>Quests
What else are they supposed to be? That's RPGs for you.
>Only spam same keys over and over
Can't this be said about literally every single game ever made?
>Too young to see flaws
"Why do you enjoy this thing I don't like?"
>Fall for hype
Literally every game
>Long queues
Oh no it's popular!!
Just imagine that some people like different things than you. It's fun to see your character evolve, and believe it or not but some people actually do enjoy running dungeons with friends or even complete strangers and shittalking while doing it, playing pvp or just ganking other players.

The world feels large, dangerous and populated. I like the zone questing stories and how they somehow feel more realistic than the retail stories which are arguably more creative.
I also really like that I'm a recruit offering aid to my country. Growing in power and renown by the sweat of my brow, learning about the wider world in a piecemeal way. There are lords and ladies and legendary heroes but so far I'm not one of them or even concerned with them. I come up from nothing, and that is interesting to me. Just like skipping the spawning of dragons in Skyrim and just being a person in the world instead of being z0mg is da dragonborn saviour of all the multiverse at level 1.

vanilla didn't have timegated daily grinds

The game was never good. However the people who played it made it an incredible experience, because it was not really about the "I'm in this raid because I want to get XY loot." It was all about the experience. This is why most people loved leveling, but now its a race to 60, and instead of enjoying the game people's mind is already in Naxxramas.

i agree.

>topic has been covered hundreds of times
>WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LIKE IT I DUN GEDDIT
use your brain you fucking autist

Does classic have free trial?

Because the world is actually dangerous and if you are not carefully you will die. It create an incentive to cooperate and be helpful. It makes you socialize.
Because pvp servers give you that feeling of never being safe, it changes how you pull and kill mobs, how you interact with your faction. It adds to how dangerous the world is creating a sense of accomplishment when you kill someone or finish a quest in overcrowded area.
The items are fun, you can find low level weapons that have unique functions which can help you in pve or fuck with enemies in PvP.

that's only retail, you have to buy sub to play classic

>all these people level 30 already
Why do some people play classic like retail? I though the whole point of classic was slow leveling experience and immersion, not rushing to endgame content

The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Once the world firsts are done a lot will go back to retail to compete at the raids there and thats fine. I will be here for a long while, with my RL friends, playing on and having fun. And I know that my bond to others who do the same will only get stronger.

There is a paid server change for retail but not classic yet
And the first 20 levels are free for retail only

I'd say give it a try. Choose a server that isn't full or high pop preferably if you want to avoid queues. Obviously if you don't like RPGs you won't like this and if you hate social interactions in a video game then classic isn't for you.

highest on my realm has 44

Instead you have wait timers for your actions

Nope, that's for retail only. You'll have to buy a sub to access it.

>points max stack size is 5
why?

It can't, or else it's a flood of bots and gold farmers

Yeah and this comment was made at 2AM eastern time on a Thursday. Use your fucking brain retard

>grrr I can't get immersed
Sounds like a you problem my dude

>he fell for the MMORPG meme
There is not a single good MMORPG, anywhere, ever.
It's full of games that you look back on fondly because you played them as a teenager, but you know better now. Or at least you SHOULD know better.

Classic gave me a chance to rekindle the friendship with my high school bros.

Im actually reliving the best days of my life.

Thank you classic.

Because that's what they did 15 years ago.

>Community is very friendly, lots of fun social interactions with people which are non existant while leveling in retail WoW. Easy to make friends in the game.
>The quests are very simple but they have good writing and it's fun to find other people stuck or struggling on quests and grouping up with them and getting some good loot at the end of it.
>Exploring the world is fun
>Everything you do in the game, every bit of progress feels meaningful unlike in retail where only the latest expansions end game gear matters.
-I played a bit of retail before Classic because I felt like I missed out on WoW when it was popular. Retail is just awful, it's basically a singleplayer game up until max level and nobody interacts with anyone because the game mechanics don't make you look for people to make groups.
-Honestly the gameplay on its own wouldn't hold up but it's the community, social aspect of the game and meaningful progression that makes the game a lot of fun to play. It's a comfy game to play with friends.
-I didn't understand why people liked WoW at all after I gave retail a good chance but I've been enjoying every second of Classic. Treat it like a fantasy social game and you can have a lot of fun with it.

>Balancing in classic

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The only reason anyone plays this is because of nostalgia and popularity. Prove me wrong, Yea Forums.

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and why would it cause nostalgia and popularity?
it's not rocket science

Leveling is boring as fuck. I'm honestly having mode enjoyment from leveling professions and getting recipes.

you'd have a point if they didn't inject obnoxious culture references every fucking chance they get. it makes swallowing their other stolen ideas unbearable.

retail is even worse shit

it was shit even back then

people playing this were considered lowly casuals and were laughed at by sc/wc3 players

>No balance
And that's exactly what makes it fun. Different classes are good at different things instead of every class being the same.

>and why would it cause nostalgia and popularity?
Marketing and Shills. Hand over all your shekels to your Jewish Overlords, silly goy.

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what Op said applies for bfa
bfa is incredibly mind numbing

>every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"
Yes, at first. This is classical RPG design. Your character is a fucking dumbass dingus who's not capable of more than that in the beginning. You grow in power and status in the world as you progress.

It baffles me how little perseverance people have nowadays. They want to be gods in the game the moment they start. Everything has to be handed to them, no thinking required. Spoon fucking fed idiots. Modern game design is just meant to tap into your dopamine reserves as fast as possible and make you play as much as you can.

if you are talking about retail wow aka bfa
then yes

I have 2 daggers

One is

9-18, 1.5speed, +2 agility

the other is

9-18, 2.0speed, +1agility, +1spirit

But for some reason, when I equip the bottom one, the character tooltip shows a 3 damage increase both minimum and maximum over the first one. Why?

No quest in Loch Modan, STV, Redridge, or Barrens has good writing.

Which server are you guys on?

never seen a more obvious reddit poster in my life

A N A L
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>describing every mmo ever

Lock Modan, STV and Redridge are comfy as fuck to level in though. Fuck mud hut Barrens.

spirit is a best stat for rogues, you should also look for spell damage weapons

All I want is for Blizz to do OSRS style content patches like what jagex did.
Have the community vote on new content that keeps the spirit of classic intact.
We could have Hyjal, Northern Lordaeron, Quel'Thalas, The Outland, new raids like Karazhan, Stormwind jail riots, etc and dungeons and all that shit. Balancing could be done entirely through item sets (imagine a paladin Epic quest where you get a sword+shield that makes your judgements work as pseudo taunts).

Though, we won't have this because people are going start screeching for TBC.

Spirit isn't too bad when leveling for any melee class because it lowers your downtime.

This isn't home. This is the equivalent of a mobile game. You enjoy it because it takes your minds off things and requires zero thought. You just whack a mob with two skills then move up to the next one while walking through massive empty zones you've convinced yourself are "full of secrets". It's the videogame equivalent of watching a marvel movie, you just sit back, barely aware you're doing something and tell yourself "this is comfy".

I'm not sure if it's good (I'd consider halo CEs writing good btw) but they are really fun and interesting. I actually consider wow to be a good singleplayer where the presence of other human players just adds to the immersion. I can't wait to join you neets when I get home today.

>Fags minmaxing and dungeon spamming to get to 60 as soon as possible
I mean play however you want, but I feel like they'll just ruin it for themselves. I'm having a great time slowly leveling, exploring and taking in the comfy atmosphere.

And int makes weapon skill levels faster, so int spirit and spd

this

k zoomer back to fornite

>Spacing for clarity means Reddit spacing

Fuck off faggot.

WoW is a game designed around deliberately wasting your time because the game is based on a subscription fee. Everything in the game is so fucking slow. People who have been playing it since 2004 know all the tricks for getting to level 60 in a humanly reasonable amount of time, but for any normal person playing the game moves at a glacial pace. Any attempt by the layman to find shortcuts will be met with a swift punishment of having to repeat whatever agonizingly long bee line you just had to grind your way across.

World of Warcraft is an excellent example of how a being fun and being addictive are two different things. You do not play WoW because it's fun, because it's not. You play WoW because it's addictive. The only way to actually have fun with WoW is to play it with friends and let's face it, even Fallout 76 is fun when you play it with friends. The difference between WoW and Fallout 76 is that WoW is addictive and Fallout 76 is easy to quit because there were already so many better options available when it released. WoW's contemporaries in 2004 somehow managed to be even worse which is why WoW still exists.

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...delete this

shut the fuck up zoomer, classic is the absolute peak of the MMO genre and there's nothing you can do about it.

The MMO genre deserved to die and WoW Classic is proof of that.

>furry
discarded

Bros should i keep leveling my warrior or not? I feel the urge to slice my wrists playing that useless piece of trash. At what point exactly does warrior become based and redpilled? I feel like my warluck would have been 60 by now while this incel class sits arround in westfal with a severe case of ptsd from fireballs.

Try FFXI stupid fucking zoomer.

People preached "journey" shit so much but everyone in wow threads using guides and auto pilot addons. Deep inside you're same retailcucks. Raid logging and youtube guides are "journey"

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>actually read what this furry said
well yeah it was addictive but because it was fun duhh
back then the other mmos that were around were even more retarded with this addiction thing you said, at least with wow they made a good job nerfing the insanity that the other mmos required
if you think this is slow you havent been around back then

I like reading Yea Forums seething at Classic
so fucking good

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Warriors are complete and utter garbage until 40, and then only just regular garbage until 60 with good gear.

the journey was the endgame for most people. dicking around in zones with some friends. getting ganked, ganking others. talking to people. spending an hour going to a dungeon because no one had a close flight point to the meeting stone etc.
wow was kinda build your own fun because all of it came from situational circumstances created by interacting with players. 90% of players didnt even do the endgame raids because they werent autistic enough or didnt have the time to farm an entire week for meterials and rep items to use for a single raid attempt.
players want vanilla and older expansions because, despite wow being lauded as a themepark mmo, the gameplay was very sandbox in how people interacted with the game. people set their own goals and did them at their own pace. every corner of the world had something to discover and people actually teamed up and communicated with each other.
i think wowhead did a lot more harm to wow than people realize. i think mmos should start banning wikis that index everything about a game.
that being said i hate vanilla i liked BC much much more

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I played FFXI and Star Wars Galaxies back then. They were even worse than WoW but that does not make WoW good by extension.

>imagine being so frustrated that people are enjoying something that it lives rent free in your head 24/7 that you need to make a hate thread about it on Yea Forums all fucking day

You Zoomers are really really upset. You sound like 16 year old kids in high school bitching about fortnite.

My Conclusion
>ass mad FF14 players with their dead expansion
>3rd worlder that can't afford 25 bucks
>a stupid zoom zoom that has 70iq and just plays everything that is popular without thinking for himself if it would be fun
>combo of all 3
It really is pathetic

>don't use guides
>remember quests like the back of my hand
What now, faggot?

The average age of a Yea Forums poster is 18 to 23 these days. Just faggot zoom zooms with a fucked dopamine receptor. They need a lootbox every level to get a transmog piece.

people wanna get ahead of the curve early on because if you dont then it will be a pain in the ass to get gear or endgame pvp later on

You didn't answer my question.

The average age of a Yea Forums poster is 18 to 23 these days. Just faggot zoom zooms with a fucked dopamine receptor. They need a lootbox every level to get a transmog piece.
This, I'm even doing quest I missed in vanilla without a guide also. So many players means I can do group quest.

>me click button
>number go up
>me feel good
This is your brain in an MMO

>me click button
>number go up
>me feel good
This is your brain in an MMO.

I mean, what else would you do while waiting in 20k queue

your retarded weebshit grinding simulator has always been the inferior game the only real competition of WoW was Lineage 2.

90% of them are painfully average

weebshit grinding simulator was at least still a fucking mmorpg instead of a blizzard keysmash sim that ruined the genre

>me shoot enemy
>we win or lose, number go up anyway
>get lootbox with 5% chance to get something good
>got something good 5 days ago, constantly searching for the next feel good everyday
>realize award is vapid and cosmetic and doesn't progress my character
>buy 20 lootboxes to cope this feeling

Sure sounds like classic has a better reward system to me compared to modern games.

Lineage 2 was a job... Not a game. As someone that actually played it, it went too far.

you missed the part where gamplay is involved

The legend of Stalvan and Scythe of Elune questlines alone are objectively better than anything post TBC, and probably better than most of them in that one too.

Shooting an enemy already involves way more work than casting a spell and you just added lootboxes and made your post about them instead of the gameplay.

That is an entirely subjective opinion on what is more fun. What is objective is the difference in player award and achievement. Classic has a more permanent feeling with its progression. Modern games don't do this anymore as it is more lucrative to reward cosmetics that don't give you a feeling of accomplishment.

> its an RPG

what does wow classic have over the modern game that makes this true? from what i can tell there are way less skills per class, let alone spec

>walk
>walk
>walk
>fight
>watch back and forth BS with no strategy
>still die
>walk while dead

I just can't. This game is so sad

>grinding simulator
>Lineage 2
Looks like LARPer doesn't even know what L2 is.

twitch.tv/videos/473506714?t=7h02m31s

I want Yea Forums shitters to rate this 10 minute piece of gameplay right here

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So you are actually putting the feeling of the reward and achievement above actual interactive gameplay and then talking shit about lootboxes. Sounds like someone is a hypocrite.

>explain why you like it
I play it, i have fun. Ezpz faggot

They could limit you to no mail/ah/trading and 10g max like on retail

>Still doesnt give any argument and his only response is namecalling

Go spam memes in your favourite twitch streamer chat

>he unironically fell for the classic meme
i told you all it was going to be shit, your fault for not believing me, and making yourselves look like fools in front of everyone.

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Your gear matters and you have more freedom with the talent trees. Every little edge you get you can feel. Modern mmos like FF14 or retail have no meaningful rpg elements and the leveling experience is brain dead.

Wow leveling is slower but way more strategic. Pulling 2 mobs in classic could kill you. In retail you can pull 9 mobs and be at 50% health killing them all. It's just an action game.

youtube.com/watch?v=2F2SVmB7NUk
alright

If your friendship is reliant on some 15 year old game getting rereleased it's not a very good one. You'll realize this eventually.

and worst of all you cant play female draenei

If your friendship is reliant on some 15 year old game getting rereleased it's not a very good one. You'll realize this eventually.

XIV fags ITT lol

>freedom with talent trees
most of the shit is just "deal X% more damage with spell Y and Z" and for comparison wotlk had double the amount of spells and like triple the talents and many of them were reworked to be actually viable but nooo vanilla is so goooood

a n a L

Im having a blast

That's how you describe soul

>Every little edge you get you can feel.
>Modern mmos like FF14 or retail have no meaningful rpg elements and the leveling experience is brain dead.
Wrong. You can feel every unlocked skill in FF14. And FF14 leveling is not so different from wow. You can die by pulling 2 mobs too.

>mmo
>quests
Yikes

Most naysayers are telling your stupid ass that MMOs are designed to rot your brain and this is the conclusion you come to. You are living proof they're correct.

Fuck off. No you don't. FF14 faggots are the worst. I literally tagged millions of mobs to level up in 14.

erp tranny game

>You have to pay for a downgraded version instead of it being free when Blizzard already has enough cash.

Greedy fucks.

you will get classic wotlk after classic tbc you dumb retarded braindead specimen

>You can die by pulling 2 mobs too.
Only in eureka. Its unfortunate that everyone fucking hates it because its the closest we'll ever get to an old mmos open world content ever again.

Nice arguments.

I will never understand the mentality of people who can't handle "old stuff".

I was in my early 20s and yes the flaws were clear.

I mean there's a buggy piece of shit that has a large playerbase I play now that came out in 2015 called Ark.

only chinks play retail as confirmed by former blizz employee on destinys stream

Eureka mobs are more stronger than vanilla one. They more close to elites. Especially undeads

you actually make friends in it and the frienships are long lasting and meaningful

>Classic is better because muh talent trees!
you mean the incredibly solved talent trees with amazing progression like +1% more damage?
the trees with tons of useless skills and builds
based Classic

Even if that was true thats not what the argument was about. The argument was that classic Wow does the MMO thing better than anything else before which is clearly not true.

>hnnng everything you like about thing actually sucked.

No, no it didn't.

its better than retail in everything except some raids maybe

Looks like theyre having a lot of fun.

but the Classic talent trees do objectively suck, at first they look like a plethora of choices until you realize to be viable to do anything later on you have to do one of 2 possible builds, if you even get the luxury of that many choices.

The fucking worst is people who are rushing to get mods to make the game even more easy. The game was basically a point-and-click game as it is with how shallow combat is, then people need mods to tell them what to do, when to do it and exactly how long for.

How the fuck is wow classic with mods any different from escape from monkey island using a guidebook right now. You only mess up if you go against what you were explicitly told to do with big fucking hints on screen.

I love nostalgic games and bought wow when it came out originally, but I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to play this and watching streams of it to see if its worth checking out is just painful.

But he's right about talents. You probably can even google old forums about it.
>anons who biased against every MMO outside of WoW can't even understand why they like it

Imagine being so worthless and bitter that you're spending half your day arguing why people should not enjoy something despite the fact they clearly are.

I put less money in wow sub in a month than I put in beer. It is cheap as fuck to play.

>WoW zoomers acting like their first mmo is the best when it was heavily casualized everquest with a warcraft paintjob
>all the arguments of why classic is good were done better in mmos that came out year before it (its an RPG!! you actually have to group up to do anything!!! ect)

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I'm having a blast and there's nothing Yea Forums can do

It's 15 yrs old...

ding, lol. 40. i need gold. lmao.

>casualized everquest
Everything in everquest is joke compared to classic. You don't even know what you talking about.

grats you have shit taste

Were you the level 16 dwarf priest running around eastern Ashenvale?

just hit 40, hope you're all having fun

my nigger dick is bigger than ur mom

People were complaining about this bullshit back in 2005.

>ugh I'm going to be hungry on the street homeless because I have to pay $12 a month!

faggot

same, I hate this shit
>grew up playing every mmo to try them out from shit like Asheron's Call and Ultima all the way to shit like Flyff and Trickster.
WoW is as average an mmo as they come, literally the only driving thing behind it is the brand recognition, but kids who have only played WoW talk about how HARDCORE oldschool WoW is, when it was a super casual mmo at the time it came out.

only the first point of OP applies to bfa

>i dont like the games design so its bad
lol yourself faggot

the second too, if you think otherwise you are strictly bad at any game.

I see so you're one of those people who have never actually played vanilla in retail and you just bandwagond because your favorite streamer said it was good. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.

WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED

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Over balancing is what kills games imo.

I think those shills are used to discredit classic more than shill for it. Also you had private servers that were brimming with activity. Just look at Nostalrius, people just loved playing the game. But they made it easier and easier and easier so people who were in for a good time slowly left.

don't LARP
thee is reason why wow was popular and why wow killed a lot mmos. not only because of Warcraft universe

Its pace is slow and arduous which makes progression more meaningful and interactions more common. Helping someone out makes me feel more like a champion of azeroth then some gay title.

searched this entire thread to find the one cunt with sense and here he is.
rest of you scruffy bastards ought to feel ashamed for your dishonesty.
rambling on about mechanics in a wow thread for fuck's sake

only complete retards said that vanilla was hardcore

Should I post photo of vanilla and everquest boxes and btfo you, zoomer?

yeah because there is literalyl no gaming company on this planet as good at advertising and shoving hype down your throat like blizzard. Don't worry about finding out about a new blizzard game because YOU WILL, they put ads on every TV channel, magazine ads, superbowl ads, bus ads, newspaper ads, giant ads in game shops, social media shills.

Blizzard is a advertising monolith every game since WC3TFT has been mediocre AT BEST

>redditors are already complaining about people using anti-afk scripts
get fucked nerds

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Would be nice to have the option to migrate over to other expansions eventually. I retired from WoW toward the end of TBC. There was a lot of push towards casual shit even back then.

>should I grab an image off google to help my boomer rp
You don't have enough time for that, bedtime soon little user!

If you don't think classic WoW is more casual than classic EQ (whether that is better or not to you is a different story) you're insane.
If every mob in EQ was elite, and food/drink was removed, regen was about 10x slower, mobs that chased you across entire zones and then attacked other people, when died you lost all of your shit and exp and respawned potentially on the other side of the planet -- then you would have comparable experiences.

I think retail players just don't understand why anyone would want Classic because they see all the convenience features added since as improvements.

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Oh, I have to wait for several hours just to log in.
But at least the game is popular.

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wait, EQ had food and drink, it just wasn't as easy to get as in wow

or did they not restore health. It's been so long since my EQ days, I could swear eating food was a thing.

westfall has good ones

no one praised vanilla for it's quests, the modern day's quest are the same, you thought old wow had awesome quests and deleted them to add the trash they have today?

Most of the classic players ARE retail players you stupid fuck.

Its pace is slow and arduous which makes progression more meaningful and interactions more common. Helping someone out makes me feel more like a champion of azeroth than some gay title.

akxhctually about 50% are ppl who came back specifically for classic

I was obviously talking about the people who are not playing it, you autist.

No you stupid larper. It's because mmos were literal garbage outside of Ultima. Especially everquest. Shit combat, horrible engines, god awful pve. Everquest was literary do nothing but raid nonstop. The most "hardcore" part of everquest was grind because of death penalty. Tigole picked up this "raid non stop" garbage from everquest and improved it in WoW. Everything in wow was fucking just too good. Fluid responsive combat with great challenging pve

probably worked like food in XI which was some stat buffs but XI also had drinks that regen/refresh so no idea

You had to have them in your inventory permently for upkeep, but you didn't sit and eat them for fast regen speeds

gfjf

>mfw setup ask script to jump every 5 minutes
And if I get banned - whatever, shit is unplayable without it anyway.

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>everything in wow was fucking just too good
holy shit the delusion
Dark Age of Camelot, City of Heroes, Star Wars Galaxies. All MUCH better games with more interesting and difficult combat, and all older than WoW.

It's like you've never played MMOs before.

based, I'm even thinking of plotting the entire run around ogrimmar just so I don't get reported by the soifags who are angry about having to wait in a 6 hour queue every day

>Being this far into denial
Get off my board tranny.

Rent free

It's true, another cashgrab from Blizzard. They love thier retarded nostalgia-tripping "fan"base.

i love how actual human beings can have this kind of black-and-white, void-of-nuance opinions on a populus

are you a woman or something? disgusting

Only DAOC was great but not something you can call fluid at all.
>Galaxies
Sandbox? Yeah but everything else? Come on. Galaxies is abomination.

>tfw been grinding in a group with two of my old friends for 12 hours a day
I didn't expect this at all but the experience has totally strengthened the bonds of our friendships. We're having a great time and learning shit about each other that we've never talked about before. Sure, the item drop rate quests are garbage but there's something special about having to fight for mob tags with other players, the rush you get from the most irrelevant victory of stealing a mob from someone who is moving in on your turf, the feeling of danger, knowing that you WILL die if you accidentally pull too many, or a higher level elite or something.

The leveling is relevant and fun. I killed my first Horde today in STV and it was the best experience I've had on an MMO in ten years easily.

If you don't understand, you don't understand but plenty of people do get it.

I just want a singleplayer Warcraft RPG. is that too much to ask?
I don't want to collect 50 bear asses and stand in a conga line made out of other autists, but I want to roam around the world of Azeroth at my lesiure
Maybe I should set up my own private server all for myself.
I wish that Blizzard had released WowEdit.

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you wouldn't even be able to list what character customization exists in the modern game

They are just shitposting ffxiv fags who can't cope with how much more amazing Classic is compared to their shit jrpg not an mmo.

These paypigs are paying a subscription for something to remain in the same state it was in 2004. A subscription.
I feel like I'm the only one pointing out how insane that is.

holy based

being stuck in queues is artificially sustaining the lifespan of classic's hype because it takes longer for people to get to the point where they'll get bored as fuck

The mmo basically killed the ip.

>your favorite named character from the lore
>killed by a group of adventurers

>I don't want to collect 50 bear asses
This is what you actually do in your RPG if you skip all text. Kill X and kill Y. Yeah simplification works in both ways.

>being ridiculed by a bunch of autists
kek, and how did it turn out? Both dead games and laughed at by Mobafags

I connected like crazy with my old school friend. We lost contact when he moved to the capital 3 years ago but he was back home for the holliday and we talked WoW coming out and both of us being hyped. He's back in the capital now and we've been gaming WoW every day.

They are just shitposting ffxiv fags who can't cope with how much more amazing Classic is compared to their shit jrpg not an mmo.

PvP is something that needs to be removed from WoW completely. It's only in the game to extend time sinking by allowing players to steal time away from others by ganking and corpse camping. Basically stealing money from the other guy. It's bullshit and needs to be removed by Blizzard now. All PvP servers need to be changed to RP servers (in fact all servers should be RP PvE only) and battlegrounds made the only place PvP can occur. It's unfair and basically criminal to allow PvP in the open game world.

>Get quest in redridge, go to stormwind and talk to a guy
>Get quest from him to go back to redridge and talk to the guy, get quest from that guy to go to westfall and talk to a guy
>Go to westfall and talk to the guy, he gives a quest to go back and talk to the guy in redridge
>Go to redridge and talk to the guy, he gives a quest to go back to the guy in westfall
>Westfall guy gives another quest for you to go talk to the redridge guy
Epic, simply epic.

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>we're going home bros we're going home, I can't wait
>WAIT NO YOU HAVE TO DEFEND WHY YOU WANT TO GO HOME

Maybe because it's just more enjoyable for certain people, get the stick out of your ass.

Relationships built solely on gaming with one another for hours on end are absolutely draining. It ties into what makes games like this so addicting and dangerous.
Get out while you can.

I had to wait two hours on the opening day, but yesterday my longest queue was 15 minutes.

You fucked up pretty hard this time

not more insane than paying a sub for XIV or retail wow

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All setup for a solid weekend. Trying to level all my professions at the same time but struggling for gold. Really need to level some more first.

The savagery of my comfyness will know no bounds.

ITT: people without any friends to play with that will never be able to experience the true magic of classic

Sucks to be you guys. Haven't had a queue since they upped the capacity. I've put in 14-16 hours or so a day with my friends. We're in the trenches together, fighting against the horror of Ghoul Rib drop rates and faggoty mages and druids that want to steal our tags. But they've failed more than they've succeeded and though my friends and I have bitched and moaned about the drop rates, we've all admitted to each other that the moment we log off and stop playing, all we can think about it how much we want to play again and what we'll be able to accomplish tomorrow.

Classic is a game that rewards the smallest victories, the simplest of triumphs. Every step you take feels relevant and rewarding. And suffering through the hardships of that progression with friends is fucking god-tier. If you play with friends, you'll come out the other side of it being better friends than you were before.

I know that concepts like this are difficult for the raving horde of Yea Forums autists to understand as they rely heavily on at least a light-grasp of socialization but goddamn, the posts in this thread just make me pity you fucks.

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Who said anything about our relationship being built solely on gaming, you retard? I said it strengthened our friendships, not that it was the basis of them.

But in those cases you are paying for the ongoing development of the game while this game is already done.

This. WoW completely destroyed the lore of Warcraft with this loot pinata non sense.
It was okay in classic, because most of the boss were OG characters.
However they quickly ran out of ideas, and turning Kel Thuzad, the cunning villain with his 200 IQ into a retarded raid boss crying for help was the beginning of the end.

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Imagine having standards so low you're excited about replaying a game that was already pretty bad 15 years ago

you are a pussy and should stick to normal/rp servers and stfu

World PvP is the only real reason to even play Classic WoW. If that were removed you may as well just throw the game in the trash where it belongs.

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Bros it's so lonely being at the top, I miss barrens chat.

You are supposed to grind multiple quests at a time

>If you play with friends, you'll come out the other side of it being better friends than you were before.
based and truthpilled. I feel bad for anyone without a 5-man squad of bros each crafting and buffing one another.

Makes me laugh. This is seen as a hardcore game now. People look at the time commitment/how often you die and see it as THE DARK SOULS of MMOs

I connected like crazy with my old school friend. We lost contact when he moved to the capital 3 years ago but he was back home for the holliday and we talked WoW coming out and both of us being hyped. He's back in the capital now and we've been gaming WoW every day.

Super hot take, man. I can tell you have a lot of friends that you routinely impress with how 'smart' and 'different' you are. I wish I knew somebody that had opinions about things except they were the opposite of what most people believed.

Boy, that sure would be cool.

>I've put in 14-16 hours or so a day
I think I can smell you through the internet you fucking loser.

NO CHANGES AND NEVER CLASSIC +! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO RUIN CLASSIC! GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD RIGHT NOW FAGGOT!

>login
>enter
>slash 1
>"classic not hard, it's just slow"

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Explain to me why it is you think people paid developers subscription fees for games like this

I have a heady mouse stuttering in this game, anyone else got the same problem?

This. I just got my subscription for my wife and me. Already have friends waiting for us, gonna be a fresh breath of air from all the modern gaming.

>PvP is something that needs to be removed from WoW completely.
get the fuck out of here, everyone knows that true endgame of wow is getting geared, then camping low leveling quest hubs untill ppl either quit or they come on their main and you get a huge war going on

Still better than XIV. Always will be.

sc/wc3 players were considered lowly casuals and were laughed at by Q3/CS players

>>If you play with friends, you'll come out the other side of it being better friends than you were before.
>Be warlock
>Friend is mage
>Friend 2 is priest
>A blue robe drops
I have doubts about our friendship now

>gameplay loop based around reward systems
>fun with friends
And to think that these used to be red flags in here.

Yeah, you sure told me, anonymous Yea Forums video game board poster. I'm glad you took time out from your jet-setting lifestyle of fucking 10/10s 5 times a day to share your super cool opinion with me.

You have, indeed, succeeded in convincing me that I am a loser and you are a very, very cool and relevant person with an opinion that I am going to take seriously enough to hurt my feelings.

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As someone who played vanilla from 05. Raided and whatnot I don't understand why you would want to go back.

All setup for a solid weekend. Trying to level all my professions at the same time but struggling for gold. Really need to level some more first.

The savagery of my comfyness will know no bounds.

He obviously baiting because you can see ffxiv bait.

Good.

>Yea Forums
>ever having a consolidated opinion about anything
This board has been an us vs. them madhouse from the beginning.

link

No waifus.

Especially since Draenei aren't included.

>Why
Slower, more relaxin pace. both in short term and longterm gameplay.

You are encouraged to do stuff for fun, not achievements.

Game mechanics that automatically guide players to socialize instead of quality of life features that make solo play easy.

classes are different from each other.

World is the main focus. You are not some chosen hero.

Just to name a few.

you are just making things up now... fps games were considered simple fun violence games back then and their popularity on a competitive level was heavily built around sponsorships and deals. With CS killing off Quake they set the sail onto ongoing casualization of the genre in hopes of attaining wider audience. And now RTS and Quakelike games are nothing but a niche nowadays.

Could you be any more obnoxious? Get a grip

it's everything we ever dreamed of isn't it lads

>damage control
You post too much for someone who doesn't care.

i'm having fun but you're not even wrong desu
i just enjoy leveling up my character and getting stronger desu
but you don't need to pay $15 a month for a 15 year old game to do that desu

>ITS COMFYYYYYYY

Fuck off.

I joined one month before TBC and never got to play any 40 man raids so I'm looking forward to it since I'm a bigger is better kind of guy.

whats with the reddit style blog posts in these threads?

i've never seen someone say something has good writing without someone else interjecting and saying the writing is horrible. I don't even know what good writing is anymore.

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>Fly to Undercity from Silverpine
>Learn all my new warlock skills
>Don't have any silver left to fly to Silverpine so I have to walk back
Someone buy my stuff on AH please

why the fuck did i type desu three times
shit

this game shits on everything like nothing ever before. 5 times as much viewers than the the 2nd.

your shitposting on Yea Forums is futile. just give up and get on the bandwagon already

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Based retard

That's crazy considering how boring it is to watch someone playing an MMO

Yea it is great alternative to Fortnite because it is a friendgame with lots of walking and downtime. You sure showed us.

Yea Forums literally can't cope people are having fun
lots of FOMOs in here

at release asmongo had 2x the viewers then then the entire next section

>you are just making things up now...
>fps games were considered simple fun violence games back
What the fuck are you talking about retard. Read again
>sc/wc3 players were considered lowly casuals and were laughed at by Q3/CS players
sc/wc3 are braindead apm simulators for casuals. Q3 and CS were real big brain competitive games.

?

I thought the game was shit when I was 15 in 2005.

I mean the idea of being online with a bunch of people was exciting, but I watched a friend play it for an hour and realized it's boring as fuck.

Dueling also looked retarded, that's when I realized it was complete shit.

He’s totally burned out because he’s chasing the get to 60 the fastest and the grind is taking its toll. Retards don’t realize that you are supposed to actually enjoy the quests and explore making friends along the way. That’s why it will be dead in a month.

>Dueling also looked retarded
There's a simple fix to that. I've never dueled.

Based and red pilled
Fuck wow

clip?
i wanna laugh

>I mean the idea of being online with a bunch of people was exciting, but I watched a friend play it for an hour and realized it's boring as fuck.
That's it, the game is literally a glorified chat room. No one that is sane thinks auto attacking mobs for 100 hours is fun gameplay.

What makes it worthwhile is the community, class representation, music and sense of world. Like any MMORPG worthy of the genre.

He’s totally burned out because he’s chasing the get to 60 the fastest and the grind is taking its toll. Retards don’t realize that you are supposed to actually enjoy the quests and explore making friends along the way. That’s why it will be dead in a month.

So you still didn't mentally grow up? This is pretty sad.
>Retards don’t realize that you are supposed to actually enjoy the quests and explore making friends along the way
Ironically this is 95% of anons in WoW threads. Addons, quest markers - everyone use them.

Classic wow rocks

There are probably 20 times more people doing the enjoying thing than doing the gottagofast thing. Dont mistake the vocal minority for the majority

fuckk man my notebook is dead.

Classic rocks haha

>my view is the correct view
people have different kind of fun

>did all the quests in westfall that doesn't require VC run
>did everything I could in redridge that isn't red
>lvl 17 and a half
Fuck. I'm actually gonna have to just grind mobs til 18 when I can do stuff again aren't I?

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Real talk, TBC, WOTLK and Cata were all better than classic objectively.

Dead endgame and raid logging?
Why not play BFA instead?

>I watched a friend play
Yeah I bet you watch people play games on Twitch too you fucking zoomer

>quests tell you where to go and what to do, rather than show it immediately, allowing people to feel like they're adventuring as well as opening up more social interaction
>people whisper or ask in /say where quest objectives are, or where to find something or someone
>those who can buff, often do so, and these buffs actually help
>whenever I'm running next to someone else, I give them a healthstone, which they always appreciate, and sometimes you end up chatting for a bit while running
>follow others' examples and spend a few minutes making bags in towns, as money is sparse and people appreciate it. Even make money because people throw in a little extra in appreciation
>combat is simplistic, like almost every RPG (especially JRPGs), but there's constant risk and that makes a lot of people help each other out
>quests tell you where to go and what to do, rather than show it immediately, allowing people to feel like they're adventuring as well as opening up more social interaction
>a fair amount of people are new players, brining a nice balance of fresh experience to the veterans

ive been just killing things on the side of the road while i travel during quests instead of walking doing nothing, outleveling barrens quests like it is retail

>me click post
>dopamine go up
>make me feel good
This is your brain on shitposting

You want to know why people are hyping it up?
Big streamers play the game, fanbase floods servers, people with nostalgia see it's gaining popular and join, people who are curious come in and join.

So now you have 1000's of people playing a simple and antiquated game that ran it's course. If this is the best we can come up with for MMO's then we're fucked on that front.

or level a new char or professions or pvp or whatever met all kinds of people over the years

No they weren't. It's the same gameplay with some updates, but everything else if worst.

Pre big bang maplestory was better than vanilla WoW.

all the ran its course/antiquated shitposting might be true, but its still objectively the best MMO

>first weekend since launch
>have to go spend time with family entire weekend
just kill me

>this game shits on everything like nothing ever before
>like nothing ever before

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>>every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"
>>combat is braindead literally "click on enemy and spam the same hotkeys over and over"
This can apply to basically every game today
>>playerbase is mostly just nostalgic boomers
Retail player upset his LFG is taking too long
>>new players consist entirely of zoomers dumb enough to fall for twitch marketing hype
old, likely balding if not already bald
>>long queues just to get into the game
Impatient, potentially future rapist due to lack of interest from the opposite gender
>>(inexcusable when the game is already ruined by layering to supposedly overcome this)
Posting false information to support his 'argument'
>>This game is objectively shit.
Yep, its a faggot.

Download questie. Fuck boomers and their nostalgia
>NOOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WASTE YOUR TIME WANDERING AROUND

>raining in Westfall
>cofy gnoll farm going on
Can this get any better?

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>I'm playing a video game and having fun
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO JUSTIFY TO ME WHY YOU'RE HAVING FUN OR ITS FAKE FUN HERE I HAVENT ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME BUT HERE ARE MY 15 REASONS FOR WHY THE FUN YOURE HAVING IS ACTUALLY FAKE
I don't get why I use this board. It's a cesspit of awful autistic unpleasant people. Do you act like this in real life? Do you think it's funny to do so online? The only worthwhile threads on Yea Forums are threads about niche franchises where everyone is a fan and they actually talk about the game. But I'm guessing 14 year old shitposters who hate video games for some reason would call those threads "circlejerks" because it's not 24/7 spewing vitriol and posting shitty memes.

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no

Poor zoomer kid... I still play Everquest a couple months every year and have a blast... almost zero quests and lots of classes combat is pure autoattacking.

YOU are objectively shit and should go drink bleach ASAP.

cope
ROFL!!

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I know every alliance quest and most horde quests by heart

>NOOOOO I CAN'T PLAY WITHOUT MY QUEST MARKERS!!

Blizzard used to be good enough to make compelling stories and worlds, they lost a lot of that talent over the years and by BC/wrath it started to become shit, especially with how arthas basically turned into Dr claw from inspector gadget

I can see why people always go on about how vanilla wow had a feeling of accomplishment that modern wow doesn't. Everything takes so long that when you finally get a new weapon or armour piece you're amazed that something actually happened.

Imagine thinking WoW was EVER good. Fucking retards.

retail hates Classic because it makes their 15 year old account's toons obsolete

They simply fired half of their staff between vanilla and TBC.
There's amost no story in TBC. Every character is turned into a loot pinata, and you need to read shitty comic books to understand what's happening.
Wotlk is way worst as the Lich King, the biggest villain of warcraft, is turned into a fucking retard.

im a boomer I played this compulsively for 12+ hours a day back in the day, i never played anything past TBC. I had fun back thenbut i can't play it now. I just stopped in the middle of a quest and thought about everything I "had" to do and how long it would take, and how long it was taking to get 10 fucking fish eyes or some shit. I stopped, logged off, uninstalled wow and battlenet, and let out a big sigh. It's gone for me,

While i have no opinion of the game because i haven't played it what you described is this entire board

I just started playing it yesterday, they did do a pretty good job at world building, you are a nobody in the beginning, just another grunt doing jobs, and you climb your way slowly to the top. It just makes me wana play a Warcraft RTS though, I forgot how good the lore is in the series. But yeah, vanilla gameplay leaves a lot to be desired

Yeah they cant go on bragging about they were playing back then and how naxxramas was so hardcooore lmao fucking rekt
this some of the best thing about classic
kek.jpg

Brainlet.

based

>DM run
ftfy

the story was actually decent.

Like half of these seemingly random quest lines are connected to the dreadlord in the Scarlet Bastion (or whatever the name is) manipulating things to get back at Kelthuzad and Arthas.

TBC and WOTLK maybe but Cata was only good like the first month before they nerfed the heroics.

>instead of enjoying the game people's mind is already in Naxxramas.
That's actually a pretty great point, people are picking mains that they want to play when they are fully Naxx geared when Naxx release is like 2 years from now.

I used to play Maplestory a lot back when GlobalMS was in beta (circa 2003) and stuck with that game until 2006 and MS is THE most bullshit grindfest I've ever played and this is coming from someone who had no problem farming 0,01% card drops on Ragnarok Online 1/1/1 private servers. Vanilla WoW is MILES better than pre bigbang Maplestory.

I'm having a lot of fun desu desu

>it's always been shit so those aren't v-valid criticisms!!!
fucking COPE lmao

I'm having a lot of fun desu desu

Go to Darkshore and Loch Modan, retard.

shit trannigger
sylv burned all that shit lol!!

>when you're leveling as a warrior and a second mob aggros on to you
TIME TO HAMSTRING AND RUN I GUESS

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You do realize you don't have to quest to 60 right? Once you hit 18 you can just level with dungeons. That's how I'm doing it.

>Play disc/holy priest
>Constantly healing dungeons
>Leveling faster than people who don't know what their doing
>Constantly meeting new people
>Constantly getting new gear consistent with my level
>Slowly working up a reputation on my server as a good healer
>will have friends made, decent gear at 60
>Dungeons also best way to level enchanting

You zoomers simply have no agency whatsoever. And that's why you are such consistent failures at life.

It’s finally the weekend bros I can finally go home.
Gonna sleep and wake up early roll a Tauren Shaman and Gnome Warlock, races and classes I never played the old days. What should I name them? I already hunted down 3 old friends and got them on battle net. No more cagie, girlfriend is busy, it’s finally time to come home. People who make fun of Wow will sit and play rocket league for four hours a day. It’s your fun, enjoy it. See you there buddies I’m gonna be on grub hub server.

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based

it's nice having an active, positive general chat again

welcome home

>lol bros why don't you just spam dungeons while playing a sought out role
hmmmmm I wonder

>local retard thinks he's discovered what is already the most popular method of leveling in a 15 year old game
why even post?

Dungeons aren't meant to be levelled up with. you're supposed to do them once and complete the quests, then move on.

>warrior
do you hate fun

>hurr y u liek bideo jame not good
>no fun allowed

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Firemaw or mograine, lads?

I just started playing it yesterday, they did do a pretty good job at world building, you are a nobody in the beginning, just another grunt doing jobs, and you climb your way slowly to the top. It just makes me wana play a Warcraft RTS though, I forgot how good the lore is in the series. But yeah, vanilla gameplay leaves a lot to be desired

KALIMDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

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Bigglesworth

>doing dungeons
>leveling faster than people who don't know what their doing
How can you be faster when you are tying your progress to other people's ability to press buttons?

Which ever is the newest one, fuck off from my server, it's already full.

>meant
lmao who gives a fuck retard

>yadda yadda yadda yadda
>now go kill 5 ponies
even dragons dogma quests are better

>not having a priest bro to back you up
except all the times when he ooms after I pull 4 or 5, and when I don't have all my aggro gaining abilities yet lmao
is good though

I am kind of enjoying it but being a mage before Shatter sucks so bad

You drink every other enemy and if you get respawns or adds you likely have to bail or die despite polymorph and ice nova

Except the dreadlords motives make no sense at all.

MMOs are vapid and boring grinds, more at 11.

I miss those thighs like you wouldnt believe in classic.

>flaws
Its not flaws if it made the game good. Trying to ''fix'' the flaws is what made the game shit to begin with.

TBC is the only one that it could be argued for, since the improvements it made were numerous enough to make up its flaws for certain people.
Wrath doubled down on all the missteps TBC made, and the game was clearly starting its death throes even then (end game patches being facerolled in days, retardedly easy levelling, BoA gear, daily obsession, dungeon/raid finder, etc)

OP is wrong about the combat I just don't give enough of a shit to try and reply to obvious shitposting.
OP is right about everything else, though complaining about quests being fetch/kill/talk is very small-brained. OP isn't even smart enough to understand the basic concept of an MMORPG.

The trick is to find games that are popular enough to have people to talk with and gated enough so shitposters blatantly out themselves as not having actually played it/getting filtered early.
Games like Hollow Knight and Rimworld tend to have that balance, but there’s plenty more.

>spam dungeons

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Dungeons are supposed to help you level up via gear.
People that run dungeons enough to get some nice gear are at a significant advantage compared to people who don’t, be it monetarily since they don’t have to buy it, or having flat out better stats

>he doesn't understand that WoW was a sideshow to the actual fun
>he's too autistic to realize it was always about the in-guild highschool drama
>he can't derive pleasure from doing menial tasks while listening to his favourite music
>he's too a-sozial to understand that it was the friends you made along the way

City of Heroes was shit. No gear and after you got your travel powers there was nothing. Oh and everyone used levitate with superseded anyway so all other travel powers were pointless. I remember having to pick between the two and picked COH because my friend played it. Dropped it in a couple of months and proceeded to play WoW for the next few years.

They fired the chief worldbuilder for Vanilla before they took it to beta, and Tigole the Kike slathered his precious Everquest endgame all over it in the final three months. Every expansion going forward is just more and more of Tigole's influence shining through until they moved him to Overwatch so he could ruin that too

City of Heroes was pretty boring, but City of Villains really picked it up again. The Mastermind class was super fun.

I thought this the first time I played back in the day. Always ran a bunch of dungeons to get gear while leveling. Really, it only slows you down.

yes. I refused to kill Zul'Jin
A good game would have let me join the Troll supremacist group

Firemaw or Mograine lads?

we're full

>classic forums
>at least once every half hour some thread pops up asking for some sort of change
>"b-but it's a small change, not something that can break the game. just think this class would benefit from having certain abilities cost less and certain abilities do more dmg, that's all"
>many players calling 3 days a huge success and already planning for classic+ expansions
>people also want free transfers because they spent 8 hours getting to lvl 5 and don't want to reroll to avoid queue or lose their super unique star trek name that like 50 other players use
I wonder if blizzard regrets doing this

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>people say wow classic was much more hardcore grind and slower and all that

I had the most fun leveling in dungeons. Do you know... fun?

>every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"
>combat is braindead literally "click on enemy and spam the same hotkeys over and over"
You just summed up the big 4 mmorpg.

>Trolls side with Blood Elves.
>They kill the biggest Troll hero for no reason.

But wait it's not over
>Blood kill their great prince twice
>Because some hack writer wanted his blue dragon to save the day

The point where they made the final boss require reading a tie in comic to make sense was the point you could see where the wind was blowing.

maybe they have better things to do than read every post dumbasses write on the internet.

They're busy actually playing it instead of anonymously shitposting about things they do not like.

oh god user, i can only puke so much

You could call the original Lore simplistic or whatever, but it had some magic to it

They're literally unable to create content with the classic mindset, nobody who worked in classic still works at blizzard.

This is not true. It is well known that the fastest way to level is to skip dungeons. Why spread disinformation?

Dungeons are fun, and I still do them, but for pure speed they're not the best.

And?
Imagine if that people started shitposting and calling retards to those who level like you?
Why do you care about that when they don't give a single god damn fuck about how you decide to level
Have you considered they might've leveled already on retail classic and their focus is the endgame?

>soccer is addictive you wouldn't play it alone
>Partying and going out is addictive you wouldn't do it with friends
The worst thing is that somehow this retarded furry thinks he has a point.

I like shooting Zoom Zoom with my Boom Boom

I send in my pet, hit him with the con shot, serpent sting: Zoom Zoom's underwear getting wet!

He cries, he SCREAMS, he bitches, he SEETHES

But I have fun, with my tauren, my gun.

You got memed, 90% of the warrior playerbase will quit before level 20, if you make it to 60 you will be a tankbot and won't be allowed to DPS until you're Maxx geared, and you wont.

>Forest and jungle trolls are exactly the same and are of the same exact tribe
The Darkspears were living in total isolation until Thrall found them.

You thought all the memes about autistic neckbeards playing it were just memes? Wow players were laughed out the door back in 2003 already.

you just described 90% of the MMORPG market.

>Everyone
Source? At least me and my friends don't, also almost everybody I know doesn't either.
Could you b right or a retarded tranny talking out of HIS ass? I'm gonna take the second option.

>playing

home.

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nu-Yea Forums exclusively plays AAA action adventure and FPS. They probably consider RPGs in general to be "non-games"

What level are you? If you're like level 30 and think it's already slow you're in for a nasty surprise. I enjoy playing warrior because you have to be strategic about every pull, but in the end you're rewarded. You have to like the pain.

the game is just a framework for hanging out

Retard.
Before BC most trolls saw Zul’jin as a hero of the trollish people. That's why they say "VENGEANCE FOR ZUL’JIN" in Wc3.
Trolls are actually the biggest WE WUZ in Warcraft. You really think they would side with the elves, their sworn enemies over their own kind? And we are talking about the Blood Elves here. The elves who took and conquered Troll sacred lands.

>3rd fucking disconnect today
they definitely fucked something up for us script bros, fucking hell now I'm gonna be stuck in a 7 hours queue when I get home

BC was already trash
youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg

despite what ppl think, the real reason ppl liked classic were 2 things:
(1) 1st MMO
and
(2) endgame

the endgame flowed differently, and thats its only redeemable feature, and the rest is garbage by todays standards.

so yes, everyone is going to abandon it, until they reach Lv60, and the few there, will split from those who actually do the endgame grind, and those who quit, realizing its a full time job.

those who stay, will love it just like they remember.

I started uni this week so I haven't been able to play that much (lvl 16). I'm pretty sure some of you Yea Forumsermin have spent more time sperging about the game than I've actually played it.

Why. Because some guy un a video told you?

It was good, but the start of the downfall.

4:00

>lorefags

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He's right about raiding though. I didn't hear about it until one day I was hanging out in the marsh with my troll hunter and a random I grouped with said "btw there's a cave here with a large dragon that takes 60 men to kill".

Information get to you way too fast these days. I sound like a grandpa but fuck discovering shit was pretty fun.

I don't need some guy to tell me it introduced flying mounts.

I liked TBC and met lots of people dicking around the world.

Ah yes, a game introduces a feature you don't like so it's FUCKING RUINED. Classic Yea Forumsermin shitstain

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>thing is bad
>why?
>reason
>wrong reason fucktard!

I'm fine with people enjoying classic. But some of them actually think Classic is hard, if not even harder than BFA.
I argued that it's not hard, everything is just slow paced - mobs have more HP, quests give less exp, you deal less damage, traveling is slower, etc., but this doesn't make the game hard, it's just slower paced.
The only rebuttal was "oh but when you pull 10 mobs in Classic while leveling, you die, but in BFA, you can kill them no problem! So classic is much harder!".
Am I the only one seeing these people as fucking retards?

>in every objective measure it's harder but people who actually think it is are retards

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still kills all other mmos

modern mmos like ARK and Rust are alive and well

How about you elaborate?
Mobs being a bigger damage sponge means they are harder, because you have to press Frostbolt 5 times instead of 3? Having to pay SOME attention to what you are pulling is hard? Wasting a shitload of time on travel is hard? Having to grind mobs because quests don't give enough Exp is hard? The time for gathering quest collectibles being longer makes the game hard? What the fuck is hard about this shit nigga? It's literally just time sinks upon time sinks. I can literally fall asleep playing while leveling, nothing about this challenges me.

Do those count as mmos?

What you wrote is true, but what do you want it to do, honestly? You've just described an MMO.

>FPS: shoot / kill / shoot / kill / die
>Racing game: Reverse / neutral / drive / crash

anything else?

>This game is objectively shit.
That's just your opinion. There is nothing objective about it.
Now crawl back to BFA.

ok

not even playing classic, I set up a private server of my own to test it out at the beginning of the summer to see if it would be worth playing and I decided it wasn't.
You're an idiot. This guy is right: A fundamental concept of early MMO design is risk vs reward decisions. Flippantly dismissing someone talking about the risk of aggressive leveling strategies just reveals you to be a gutter-tier mudbrain who doesn't understand the first thing about MMOs or probably games in general.

Literally the only good thing that I took away from release WoW (or WoW in gernal) were memories of fapping to my dancing night elf and the soundtrack.
And I mainly played horde for almost 2 years. I just don't see why people are so attached to this game.

Lmao, I can feel the seething from all the way here. You were laughed at for playing easy drag + left click games weren't you. Yes you were. I remember laughing at FPS players like it was yesterday. You will never be Starcraft.

This is how it would work in Warcraft 1 and 2:
>your favorite named character from the lore
>killed by a nameless commander leading a group of nameless footmen/grunts

>risk of aggressive leveling strategies
>i will challenge myself by pulling 5 mobs and risk dying, even though that, if i pay some attention, i can pull them individually and kill them in probably the same amount of time, which would be the smarter solution with very little risk of dying.
the game at very few points (except dungeons, obviously) forces you into this situation
i'm thinking you are a retard

the drama was the best part

Neurotic middle-aged woman: I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TOOK MY BLUE GLOVES! IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GLOVES DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? THIS IS MY -LIFE-! I FEEL SO ISOLATED BY YOU ALL!
Nasal college kid: Well Sara, we're not trying to make you feel that way, w-
Neurotic middle-aged woman: DON'T CALL ME A FUCKING LIAR!! *Uncontrollable sobbing*
Random drunk guy: i mean like, im fuckin, i-i i dunno like, fuckin, it's just like, i dunno man...
Oblivious 15-year old: *Strange squeaking noises*

>Mobs being a bigger damage sponge means they are harder, because you have to press Frostbolt 5 times instead of 3
A mob that takes 5 frostbolts to kill instead of 3 is a mob that is alive and a potential threat for longer. The longer it takes to kill something the greater the risk of adds. If you run out of mana before you kill everything threatening you, you need to make decisions about how to handle it.
>timesinks
Yes WoW has timesinks. All early MMOs did, for reasons way beyond your limited intellect. That's a separate from the difficulty, you confusing the two is your own fault. It just means you're too stupid to recognize challenges due to the presence of unrelated timesinks.

The fuck are you talking about? You just spend 30 seconds reading the last paragraph of a quest and have a pretty good idea of where to go. Neither do I use a guide to level up or have a questing route planned. I'm actually enjoying taking my time doing shit with other people.

>normies
ugh

I quit.
Not because of the gameplay
Not because of the community
Not because of the effort needed
but because you need to waste over 4 hours every single fucking day on suffering through the fucking queue.
And finally, when you find your simple solution (the scripts), blizzard just manages to fuck that up as well, that being the only update they've done this whole catastrophe of a launch (other than the capacity ''''''''íncrease''''''''')
fuck this company, not even worth a wow token

> Tank from

very interesting

>join a guild
>literally no one talks in gchat
>/gquit after a few hours
>join another guild
>repeat
what happened man

the people who use those kinds of names are always the most competent people around.

discord happened. who the fuck wants to talk in guild chat when they can post embedded videos, images, and do voice chat all in one place

There were some pretty fit birds playing WoW back in the day.

>tanking an instance with partners who play together.
>guy over vent: "uhhhhh so my girl just asked me if you have a girlfriend"

This would come up a few times with girls I played with and it'd always turn into mini therapy sessions while I was carrying the group.

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>He calls it VC when it's clearly DM

The worst WoW players.

what server are u on

Because you need to switch screen to do so?

>hurrrrrrr DM is for diremaul
my favorite type of shitter
dire maul was DME DMN DMW

People have 2 or more monitors these days. GPUs come with 4-5 ports for displays.

>The game doesn't force me to not be a shitter
Right. You can put in the minimum effort and risk and still advance in WoW. This is why it was criticized by MMO vets at the time for being a babified casual game.
But the skill ceiling in WoW is still reasonabl, you can actually play more aggressively and skillful play will be rewarded. Shitters like yourself don't care and wouldn't understand anyway.
>I don't know shit about shit I'm just guessing about how much time you might save by being more aggressive
retard
- Melee classes tend to have abilities that favor continuous engagement. Efficiency drops the moment you stop attacking.
- Classes with damage-over-time spells and AoE spells directly benefit from engaging multiple enemies at a time.
- Overworld mobs wander randomly. Minimizing risk by ensuring single-pulls will cost you time and at the very least require you to be careful and observant (which is a still a skill, a very baseline one but it's there).

How poor are you

it's really inexcusable

i literally told you that there aren't any challenges and i fall asleep while leveling. if you consider taking into account any possible adds and how to handle them as something that requires big brain intellect, then i'm sorry for you. not to mention that this is something to pay attention to in retail as well, at least during legion & BFA leveling.
>for reasons way beyond your limited intellect
nice try faggot, i know that it's a business and why the time sinks are there, the problem is retards confusing these timesinks as difficulty.
>too stupid to recognize challenges
the fact that i'm not running into any means they are non-existent or are very few.
the only conceivable challenge in Classic is world PvP, but that exists in retail as well
Classic is not hard, stop pretending it is to try and make yourself feel better or even superior because you are playing a 15 years old game.

discorders should be banned from the game, fuck that zoomer piece of shit software

get the fuck out you furry dog fucker

I guess it makes sense that people are just associating interactions with people they had with the game so it's not really the game itself the nostalgia is coming from. I was only in one guild and at some pointed made a 1man guild for myself to be left alone
Needless to say that I quit because it wasn't for me and loved SWTOR because a singleplayer game with chat was what I actually wanted to play

You sound the like kind of person that being plays a game then complains there's nothing to do.

I'm feeling lonely.

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Zoomers deserve the day of the rope

Really? 2 fucking screen just to chat on discord?
I'm getting older.

Yet he hasn't hit 40, while there are lvl 57 people out there

Alright what are your suggestions for games then?

Eh I kinda liked it. Even though I wouldn't admit it. Felt like they actually cared.
One of the girls offered to meet me but I turned her down because I didn't want her to see this mid 20s balding loser.

>WoW an inherently bad game is bad
>Let's release WoW again, except make it even worse
Keep telling yourself that nu-WoW is shit because there's no open world pvp and lfg exists, the fundamental truth is that it always was babby's first mmo, with no redeeming qualities beyond "accessibility" and (then) impressive visuals.

Not just discord but doing a bunch of other shit in general. web browser on another screen, video player on another screen, another game on another screen, theorycrafting spreadsheets on another screen, etc. Having another monitor is essential for productivity or having more screen space for things.

It's an mmo where the people you bump into will be people you eventually get to know and bump into again while leveling. They actually got rid of this in the retail game, and the game is basically played solo or through dungeon queues up to 120.

Other mmos probably don't have sharding as well, but WoW probably has a more interesting setting if you ask most people.

Thats because he has slept for at least 8 hours after every session. The "57" people are literally self destroying cunts chasing virtual clout, something he doesn't need.

Yea, well i will stick with alt tab. And i never seen a lot of people having dual screen on the "post your station" thread and irl.
It would also ruin the asthetic of my desk.

>playing classic by just grinding dungeons
Sounds fun. Also, for months people on the internet were raving about muh leveling experience in classic, and what now?

I'm having fun leveling by doing quests, even grey/green ones

Yeah, and if you want to raid you'll be heavily behind the curve by the time you hit 60.

majority of Yea Forums are poorfags in battlestation threads. they spend all their money on their rig but neglect everything else so they're stuck with a 60hz tn panel or walmart headphones.

But I don't want to raid

muh leveling experience is the point of Classic

>Classicfags already on damage control

FFXIV always win baby

What's the point of MMO's? Every player just rushes the game to get the best gear but that gear is completely useless until a new expansion comes out since you've already beaten all the content of the game.
>"it's about the community experience"
The fuck are you talking about. The only contact you make with each other is to talk about transmogs and call yourselves noobs while running through the dunegons until you reach the end and fight for the loot.
Then, when you get whatever piece of shit you wanted to equip your character with, you simply stop playing and go to the forums to cry about how the game has so little content.
The devs see you crying, they release a new expansion and the cycle begins anew.
Can't you see you're a bunch of adicts paying for shitty gameplay? You're just like those people buying crated in CSGO

Fuck your faggy ching Chong bing bong game.

>HUR LETSU MAKU EVERYONE ATTRACTIVE AND KAWAII

The game is flawed but it's still a blast to play and better than all modern MMOs

You don't think people actually play Mmos for the ganeplay, do you? They're meant to be a platform for socializing and having organic interactions like creating groups for dungeons, world pvp, and the auction house in general. Without that they're basically just glorified phone games where only the top 2% of players ever clear challenging content.

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hey yuropoor, how's your mother doing?

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WoW fags don't give a fuck about some literally who femmeboys on Yea Forums. This place has never been relevant.

>people playing mmo are addicted fat nerds
More news at 11

I played WoW vanilla because it was the sequel of Warcraft 3 (muh lorefag). However even as a solo experience it was fun (even better than current games like TW3). Yea i don't get people who were stuck on it and played the other expacs, especially given how bad they were, but that's just addiction.

Back to the dungeon grind niggers dont make bring put my whip

i picked it up just to hear his voice again but so far it doesnt work. blizzard is shit

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Not even the furry, but Is this how analogies work in a retard's mind?

Play warlock instead then you bitch, it doesn’t get better

I played an mmo for 3 years, don't remember the name of a single person. Social platform my ass. The hell do I organically have to talk about with someone unless it's about how cute they look or if I want to show them my awesome house. I fell for this socializing meme shit thinking I'd develop a sense of belonging, but in reality other people were just obstacles to me. If you want to socialize, you're better of going to chatroulette.

Absolutely. Could you imagine if Valve balanced TF2 to cater to casual fags? Engineer would be even more worthless, demo-man would have infinite stickies, and medic would have 75 health.

Look at shit games like Overwatch, Blizzard balaced around the whiny babies and the game is dead as fuck. When no classes are good at anything in particular, there is no incentive to change your playstyle.

Alright looking for game suggestions then. What is a good gameplay game?

I've played both games extensively and you're retarded.

>wow I can't stop playing
>therefore.... I MUST be having fun
>yes that is the reason

>being this mad that I criticized your anime game

Is this that famous glass heart I hear about. Do you insectoids have any individual thought?

>This place has never been relevant.
You need to be older than 18 to post here.

It was a social experience back in 2004, when the internet was still a new thing. People were having their wedding in WoW and that was incredible.
Keep in mind that WoW was also normy-friendly. It had more diversity than your CS server.

So how does classic wow compared to that?

>get my dorf hunter to 16, having a gay ol time
>decide to pre-make 8 other characters, one of each class
>suddenly find myself wanting to play all of them and my drive to play starts to diminish

Don't make the same mistake I did. Make your alts one at a time. Now I'm bored because every time I start playing all I can think about is playing one of the other classes I made.

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combat is actually more interesting than retail since you have to pay attention to your health and mana while questing, but you are just going to dismiss this with some hyperbole about spamming 1 button over and over.

In 2004 I didn't even have an internet connection. Mmos just fucking ruined my attention span and now I have difficulties playing single player games because I'm so used to just spacing out when playing.

>people complaining about queue times

I have never had to sit through a queue even once, but I also play on both the RP-PVP servers. I also work afternoons so i just go to bed at midnight and log on at 7 am.

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>play game
>have fun

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Nice to see you've filtered yourself out then, faggot.

>The world is actually dangerous
>Dungeons can't be AOEd through mindlessly
>Classes aren't aggressively pruned to be dumber than Diablo 3 classes and have some depth and complexity to them
>The game forces you to be social and rely on each other
>People who play it aren't complete shitstains who see you as a raider.io number not a person
Etc, etc

>from what i can tell there are way less skills per class, let alone spec
blatantly false actually. retail wow has gotten rid of more skills than you could imagine. Shamans for instance had like 16-20 different totem spells, and now they have 0. rotations have a little more complexity on live since every class has a builder spell, a spender spell, and 2-3 procs but that's all meaningless fluff that's no more engaging than casting fireball repeatedly. whereas in classic you can decide to lead with a frostbolt on your fire mage so that the enemy is slowed as it approaches you, or use arcane missles to be more mana efficient as long as you aren't getting hit during the channel.

running deadmines with a bunch of randos as we slog through it was one of the most fun experiences I have had in an mmo in a long time

Blasphemy

>play computer game
>click buttons on the keyboard and drag the mouse around and click it sometimes
wtf is this fun?

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to this day retards still don't get why talents are good. it's not about how "interesting" each choice is. it's about having something you feel like you're progressing on as you level up. Sure it's minor, but when i hit level 17 i know my bear form will have 2% more armor than it did at level 16, whereas in retail i know that when i hit 17 i'll have 13 more levels until my next talent unlock.

>every quest is basically the same "fetch x, kill x, talk to x"
>combat is braindead literally "click on enemy and spam the same hotkeys over and over"
this describes every wrpg, not just wow.

>almost 30
>have a job
>still in school
>have a gf
>have drivers license
>new job by end of the year
can I enjoy wow now?

You can only say that's the problem after an extended period of time. The newbies have no sunk cost to keep them hooked. And even the most shit eating Blizzdrone, who has never lapsed, in their sub had to start day one not giving a shit about the game.
This is my cousin's first go through WoW, and I quit years ago during WoD.
The 'addiction' didn't hold me, and he has no attachment at all, but even when we play separately we still have fun.
Different people enjoy different things.

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>almost 31
>have solid job
>graduated years ago (masters degree)
>have a gf (sort of, im a side nigga)
>have drivers licence and car
>expecting promotion in the following months

i really want to play, but i get easily addicted for months and I'm afraid i will neglect everything else i care about.. again

fml

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man its just projection. what do you think 8 million people were doing while wow was shit?

(You) focking retard
Even if that would be true, it changes absolutely nothing. Its still the same braindead fetching with not a single brain cell involved.

>What else are they supposed to be?
Try DDO sometimes. Every single quest is a dungeon and involves: minor pathfinding skills, switch puzzles, locating traps and hidden passages, doing some swimming/jumping/climbing/falling.
And there are quite a lot of different quest objectives like "defend the castle", "destroy all the boxes before time runs out", "kill only these 4 enemies among a 100", "protect an NPC", "race through the level" and many optional objectives that require some combo of those - like if you want to kill an optional boss you have to jumps some tricky platforms, pass some traps, solve some 15 puzzle, fight of enemy wave and finally fight the boss itself.
Faggot.

Is there a site that shows server queue times/congestion? I want to know when Grobbulus is playable

>Can't this be said about literally every single game ever made?
Not in this way. 95% of the time you just select your target once and then proceed to press a sequence of 3-5 hotkeys in a particular order.
Pressing 1-2-3-4-5 is not even a rythm game, nigger.

It was fucking funny seeing how quick the hype died off. Nostalgia wore off within a few fucking hours, now everyone's fucking bailing on it because they finally realized it was boring trash to begin with.

>im a side nigga
You mean you're being cucked?

no, he's the cucker (i hope)