>megaman legends takes place in a world filled with nothing but islands and endless water and ruins
>Megaman ZX establishes nanite biometals that can give you the powers of previous super beings
>Premise of the game's original plot is there being a "Mother load" out there of ancient tech /refractors just waiting for someone to find
The megaman legends series is basically ripe for being turned into one piece with Bio-metals from ZX being devil fruits in 3.
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Was ZX intended to bridge the gap between Classic/X/Zero and Legends or did things just happen to fall into place?
Megaman series usually try to be somewhat self contained.
But Idk...maybe.
I think ZX was intended to provide an explanation for the world flooding and being fucked up so much, but ended up getting canned due to poor sales.
Like I'm pretty sure ZX 3 would have ended with master Thomas destroying the world in some way.
Does anyone have the leaked ZX3 stuff with Pandora and Promethius?
IT might have, but they could have made another series or two between ZX and the start of legends ot further bridge the gap.
user it was a stretch when you brought it up yesterday.
From what the fans have put together, we assume Thomas was successful in "reseting" the planet (Think how God flooded the planet for a reset with noah) but the heroes stopped him partway through it, which is why not everything is underwater.
We could find out in a soon zx3 if the collection sells well
Dunno what you just said OP but what I think you're trying to say we need our Megaman Legends 3
well I'm sure it'll all be tied together in Legends 3
Inti devs have said in an interview that "That was always the plan" but "we think this perfectly sets up Legends: was also the closing point of the very weird timeline comments in the Zero Complete Works. Granted that was before they confirmed they'd do a sequel series at all: I think any finality is open to interpretation. Legends has a gap of thousands of years, we're not even really sure what happened in the century or so before X.
Could always have antagonists/heroes in the series who aren't just left over elsyium/eden robots but be people who salvaged biometals to get elemental robot powers
I miss her guys.
>we're not even really sure what happened in the century or so before X.
The official answer is that nothing really happened. The robot masters became outdated and were eventually beyond repair. Mega Man, Roll and everyone else effectively just lived and died uneventfully.
>we're not even really sure what happened in the century or so before X
based off what we know about the X series through the games and supplementary material all that really happened was
>Light builds X, puts him in stasis and passes away shortly after more than likely just shut off Roll, Protoman, Mega, etc. while also implementing an near perfect AI replication of himself to aid X in the future
>Wily builds Zero and does the same though X5 and other games imply he found a way to carry his consciousness to the future one way or another
>Humanity seems to continue on like normal
>then Cain finds X and starts building Reploids
Doesn't seem like there's any way to make that portion of time more pivotal than it needs to be, I don't really know what else they could do without making the gap between Classic and X more ludicrous
Thid game was beautiful
>thinly veiled projared thread
im on to you op
That's dumb. No offense to you, I'm sure someone put in effort to reveal that extremely surface concept. But I gotta say the notion of ZX doing that "for the franchise" is just dumb. It's basically already the Legends series but without any of the plot or world development to justify it.
People make their living salvaging derelict technology. Even though the present society is the most technologically advanced one to live on the planet, and are in possession of functionally infinite energy.
Yet also people are fucking around trying to get more power by doing almost cartoonishly evil shit.
People are afraid of the scary robots even though they're really just people, either still hung up on the same conflict from X, or skipping over the humanity mirror from Legends again.
The world is a technocracy and all-powerful masters dictate who lives and dies. Except they're completely ineffectual and deadlock so they do nothing.
Sad thing is I think anyone could make a dozen fucking concepts of "How to flood the world" without it being "A character decided to do it", and tie it into the plot of the series so it's not just a stepping stone middle child.
Jesus Christ, Legends really did have a lot of soul to it
>Light builds X, puts him in stasis and passes away shortly after more than likely just shut off Roll, Protoman, Mega, etc
I hope we never get a cutscene of Dr Light shutting them off with tears as he remembers all they've been through.
I prefer the idea that they eventually used up their energy and Light died knowing they were still alive.
We would be talking about Sonic Adventure 2 or Metal Gear Rising if we wanted a "thinly veiled" projared thread
Legends 3 can still come out, r-right guys?
is there an undub for MML2? i dont like megamans female eng VA
>Not liking sailor jupiter voice
>All these retards ITT begging for Legends 3
Wait your turn faggots, Z/ZX was just announced
And yet the entire plot of the X games since X2 have harkened back to unknown secret happenings yet to be revealed from the last days of Wily and Light.
his gameplay channel you loser
That's the exact same thing people im the MML3 Project were thinking and Capcom was on board with this idea until they decided to cancel the project entirely
What? I was on the devblog and I don't recall any mention of any antagonist except ruling out fighting "The original Trigger".
The only mystery is what the fuck happened to Wily. X3 and X5 all but confirm Wily is alive, but that plot point was never brought up again.
Honestly, I hate ZX story wize with a passion(not gameplay). They shoehorn the most generic main characters and side characters the series has ever seeing, and the worse part is that they take away the cool designs/looks of the heroes we like and love. They could have easily made X AI a program error that could reincarnate every so often while Zero being a maverick virus that usually comes back too around the same time X does(and through in Zero being evil or good sometimes). But no, instead they hard reset the whole fucking shit and used designs on soulless shonen characters that have no fucking business looking like our 3 fucking decade heroes with a generic as fuck plot, which is depressing seeing how fucking well-written Z3-4 were.
>a-user but Volt and Megama.exe
Volt does not steal X/Megaman design and fucking hell you must be retarded if you think he is as bland and forgettable Aile/Vent while having his own fucking design.
Hell the art even suffer a massive downgrade after ZX came out, look at this shit.
That shit was made up for the American translations, and never existed in the jap ones
X5 shows that Wily was behind giving Sigma his new body and his logo appears during the fight with Zero
No it existed in Japanese FIRST again back in X2 by actual name.
Legends is dead
>X5 shows that Wily was behind giving Sigma his new body
Interviews given around the time X5 came out have the devs saying that wily was integrated into the Maverk virus. He wasn't "alive" he basically did like Light did and become a hologram, except, he wasn't a hologram but inside the virus.
that's a weird way of living on. would explain the Wily dream in X4 trying to seem like it was active instead of solely a flashback, and why Serges and Isoc were what they were, though; he's not so much a computer program so much as rampant data everywhere.
Yeah and all that bullshit about Light's an unanswered vector too.
Given that Wily was in the virus, it would mean he was killed at the end of the Maverick War when the cyber elves were used to purge the Maverick virus from the world.
Given that the so called "Mavericks" in Zero aren't actually crazy ,and its just a bunch of bullshit made up by Copy-X to reduce the population of Neo Arcadia, and the Maverik's in ZX have a totally different origin, its safe to assume Wily died alongside the virus when it was purged.
yeah but Issoc pretty hard hints at being wily in a robot body, and him NOT being wily opens up a shit ton of plot holes.
Man, imagine if Wily lived all the way to Legends
Not necessarily, because the maverick virus still exists in Zero.
>It's safe to assume
I'd personally never believe that an infection that doesn't need a host can be wiped out with certainty. There's got to be fragments orbiting earth in space debris from all the times mavericks went into outer-space.
But yeah I feel it's an anticlimax but that's our instructed understanding, and mercifully -unlike Omega and Weil- Capcom has yet to uncork that genie again.
The virus existed in Zero, but Zero was taken out of his body, but in a copy, then Zero destroyed his original body.
That's a joke homage, and you know it.
Also, Zero went into hybernation between the end of the Maverick Wars and the Elf wars to have his body remove the component that still held the virus, and this component was used to help create the mother elf that ended the virus, so its very likely even Zero's original body no longer contained the Maverick virus by the times of the MMZ games.
Zero wasn't just infected, his mind partly made up of the virus.
>so its very likely even Zero's original body no longer contained the Maverick virus by the times of the MMZ games.
I mean It contained the Dark Elf with the inverted cure to the Maverick Virus. Not sure if that's wholly the same thing but it's just as bad.
I want a Prometheus and Pandora A-Trans where Prometheus plays like Specter Knight and Pandora is all teleporty
I always thought the virus was actually a part of zero-the part that drives him to destroy shit. For some reason, it was sheared off him, and that incomplete part manifested as the maverick virus, driving reploids berserk in an attempt to become whole again
Do you think Capcom will ever swallow their pride and acknowledge that a lot of people genuinely love Mega Man Legends?
They haven't even swallowed their pride and acknowledged that fucking disgraceful tweet about Legends 3 fans after all these years, so no.
>They haven't even swallowed their pride and acknowledged that fucking disgraceful tweet about Legends 3 fans after all these years
They did though? Svensson stated that wasn't a comment made with Capcom's endorsement, and asked people to ignore it the fucking week it went out. Only not making the statement earlier because it happened across Comicon where he was in attendance promoting Capcom's stuff.
After all the years I've seen the image of that tweet posted here, I didn't know about that. Sorry.
Dr. Cain did everything wrong.
haven't played legends bros, which console has the best version?
The Japanese only PC releases. PS1 barring that.
Legends 1 came out on PC in the west dawg.
Without mouselook
it will come out when haruhi season 3 comes out
not the psp version?
its true
>him NOT being wily opens up a shit ton of plot holes
I mean I'd buy him being Serges. Or just another random scientist with a backstory we haven't heard yet. Even if it winds up he was "DWN-Penultimate" made to care for Wily's time capsule, who intentionally introduced the virus too early just to see what would happen.
>leviathan and pandora are given a lot more space than every guy except copy x in the art exclusive to the zero/zx's collector's edition
They know about waifufags.
Leviathan and Pandora are some of the most popular characters between both series, so no wonder
I don't remember Harpuia's pigtail wings being quite that large
Why did they add a nigger, when did capcom go full SJW?
Will he ever get off the moon?
He's not on the moon in the first place
Where is he then?
Are they offering a bust? It is going to look so weird in real life.
orbital space station
The best we can hope for is they release the Legends 3 Prologue with the Legends Legacy Collection, but even that seems impossible.
Having only played Legends, that sounds like the made of plot of a video game some "nerd" character in a crappy prime time laugh track sitcom would explain to the "hot chick" awkwardly.
There's a dungeon somewhere in ZX that had a Reaverbot Eye in one of the walls/backgrounds.
That's just Barret from FF7
Legends is one of the most soulful games in existence.
Those were also in Zero 2 and 3
Did you even play X4's Zero route?
Almost makes me want to try and make a game
I'm not smart all I can do is draw
So what do you guys think Megaman Trigger looked like?
who remember this spiritual sequel?
yeah it was mn9 tier. I want Volnutt off the moon not a shody rip.
Name a game with more soul than Legends
I cant, this is what maximum soul looks like
more than most people
If you ever want to play something like Megaman Legends, try gotcha force. Controls are similar except cranked up the action to 11
legends take place 1000 years after x, and it's presumed that sage trinity guy fucked the planet up leading to the flood
So did anything actually come of this? I remember the supposed animeme to be made with it but then the chingcong buyout happened
I've never played Megaman Legends, is it better on PS1 or N64?
ps1 as it'd get you ready for 2. there is the mysterious pc version if you try
>Controls are similar except cranked up the action to 11
how is that a selling point the controls were the one thing about legends that fucking sucked
I forgot all about it. Did it ever even get released?
Legends is weird that despite essentiually being a new universe they confirm in game that it takes place after the X series. No retcons or anything.
But yeah the timeframe and the completely different style to everything is supposed to invoke a new Megman universe.
I liked them, throwing bombs was fun to do, and 2 fixed them. Just because they are different or difficult dosen't mean it's a flaw
Why its a potential cash cow, its teats are fuckin hurtin right now
>its not the controls youre just bad!
lol
Thanks, I'll look into it
PS1 so you can play all 3 and then be sad they never finished the series.
Fuck I just want to make a game that looks like this but everyone is so obsessed with HD shit nobody will ever play it.
>Beck and Calle's names were used for the Megaman and Roll equivalents in this as well
>they were probably gunning for their own universe with Mighty No 9 being Classic and this being Legends
Jeez, Inafune.
It was a poor move in poor taste. Not only did it feel like he was jumping the gun in thinking he was going to get a universe franchise thing going, which made fans feel like they're already being extorted before MN9's quality issues even came to light, but he somehow thought that the fan support was going to be strong enough to carry MN9, Red Ash as a game and an anime, an animated TV series for MN9 and everything. As Red Ash showed, no, it was most certainly not enough once people stopped seeing with rose-tinted glasses and noticed smoke in the air.
>Wily was the virus
It's funny how this keeps being spread even though nothing explicitly states that Wily's consciousness is encoded into the virus. They never get a virus reading from Isoc.
I just want a collection so I can have a physical copy of Tron Bonne without having to burn so much money.
Something tells me Zero/ZX is gonna be the last collection though considering the Legacy Collection Collection is coming out and it only has 1 more empty spot for Zero/ZX
Why does it look like that the Switch box has more space that the PS4 one?
Thinner cases
switch boxes are pretty damn small man
The box set will fit both Classic collections, the two X collections, the Zero and ZX collection, and the Megaman 11 script that's coming with the box set.
My guess is that Capcom is only interested in re-releasing the side scrollers right now since side scrollers are the core of the Megaman series.
Maybe Battle Network, Star Force, and Legends will get their own box.
I'm hopeful for these, but Starforce sold so bad I doubt they want to do one. The first sold okay, then the 2nd sold poorly because the 1st wasn't BN and the fans didn't even want it, then the 3rd was expected to bomb they didn't even bother doing a PAL release and the BattleNetwork/Starforce Crossover game only saw a Japan release.
But the BN games sold quite well at the time. Capcom would be a fool if they don't capitalize on that nostalgia.
The CG anime actually came out, it's a short prequel thing before the cast become cyborgs. I hear it just kind of doesn't really go anywhere though, and the game was handed off to a Chinese literally who and then faded away into the mist to never be seen again.
he looks like he's about to kill everyone in that store
how about we stop forking money over money for collections so these companies actually die and someone else more competent gets the license?
This was such BS, there was a shitstorm after the cancellation and they never really offered a chance for involvement.
This, low poly is a great art style
Wasn't there an indie game that was influenced by MGS1's low poly and people were fine with that?
The anime did get made. Its serviceable but pretty underwhelming since its basically an ad for something that will never get made.
>I'm hopeful for these, but Starforce sold so bad I doubt they want to do one
Have you ever actually looked at the sales of the Star Force game? Even at their worst they still sold way better than the Zero/ZX games did at their best. I doubt their original sales will matter much when deciding to do a collection or not.
Okay, I decided to watch it. It's actually pretty solid for what it is but ends on a cliffhanger for a project that was never made.
It's too obvious what the character designs are trying to emulate, feels like Bootleg Volnutt and Bootleg Caskett
Beck's design works decently on its own if you ignore the bootleg status, but the big guy ends up being the only stand-out design due to being the only non-knockoff besides having a few shades of Tiesel.
Imagine this with artstyle with intractable voxel-based items on those shelves.
I mean, the series is literally called "Red Ash", aka "ReDash" after Rockman Dash.
>tfw you LITERALLY can't look up anything voxel related anymore because it voxel now just basically means Minecraft.
Just filter it out
When you Google search, you can filter words by putting a - in front of it
why do you care, this series is dead anyway
Why the fuck was Megaman legends the last of its kind?
3D Megaman is a fucking great idea and should have been even more popular than the original 2D series.
The only reason I see to explain it is because that they ditched the "copy boss powers" which was the main thing about Megaman.
Hopefully that will change. Ion Fury went heavy into voxel-based props and I thought they were absolutely beautiful.
>potential cash cow
The 2 Legends games and Tron Bonne barely sold over like 1 million copies combined. They were like the worst selling 90s Mega Man games, as much as I love them.
MegaMan Legends is one of my favorite games of all time, it's soul incarnate and I love nearly everything about it, but MegaMan Legends 2 just feels like a slightly above average game to me, nothing special.
I'm not sure why exactly this is, I can easily think of aspects I don't like of it, for example all the ruins not being interconnected, the entire world not being freely traversable and instead requiring travel through a menu, and missing the SOUL INCARNATE features like nearly the entire town being destructable between the 3 in-town fights nothing more satisfying for me in a MML playthrough than levelling the downtown, city hall, and old city areas but that can't fully explain why I consider MML2 a 5/10 at best while I consider MML (in my heart only, not on an objective scale) a 10/10.
Probably because Legends wasn't that big, or at least not as big as Capcom hoped, and because X7 was such an abomination that "3D Mega Man" rapidly became undesirable.
Been playing through classic Mega Man the past week, on 3 right now.
Is there some kind of chronological order for the series? My understanding is ot goes: MM->MMX->MMZ and then after that people can't agree if Legends, Battle Network, or the rest take place later in the timeline or are spinoffs
MM > MMX > MMZ > MMZX > then Legends way, way in the future. Battle Network and Starforce are an explicitly different timeline.
Classic -> X -> Zero -> ZX -> ??? -> Turn A- I mean, Legends
Battle Network is a semi-What If alternate continuity timeline, and goes into Star Force
Classic -> X -> Zero -> ZX -> Legends.
Legends just takes place really fucking far in the future (3000 years as opposed to a century or two like the other time gaps). There's clear connections between the games but in general the setting is so distanced from the rest of the franchise it can easily be taken as its own thing.
Battle Network and Star Force are an alternate universe.
Why the fuck was Megaman legends the last of its kind?
3D Megaman is a fucking great idea and should have been even more popular than the original 2D series.
The only reason I see to explain it is because that they ditched the "copy boss powers" which was the main thing about Megaman.
Mega Man Legends 2 flopped almost as hard as ZX Advent. The milk went sour 20 years ago
Legends is a testament to artstyle surpassing sheer graphical power. And the gameplay impact, as a result, is a smooth 60 FPS that isn't hard to emulate or play. I'd gladly pay up to 20 dollars for a game like Legends and Legends 2, even today. Knowing the importance of a good art design is paramount.
X7 3D sections were abysmal though.
Megaman Legends had it right by making it a kinda open world and the stages were the dungeons you explore.
They should have just made the bosses into actual robots that you can steal their unique powers and use it to fight other bosses and maybe unlock areas like Zelda tools. I bet people would have liked it more.
I know what you mean, and I think that part of that centers on the fact that MML1 is a kind of single fluid adventure in one place, and you get to see all the stuff happening on the island and little events here and there that really made the place feel alive, kind of like how Majora's Mask really gave the spotlight to all the side characters in town living their lives and going about their business every day. MML2 in contrast feels more like a standard adventure game with standard progression. You go to island, do some stuff to get into the big ruin, clear the dungeon, get the key, rinse and repeat till the endgame. While MML1 had kind of a similar progression, it was better at "hiding" it due to the nature of the game's design feeling less "gamey" (I don't mean that in the retarded modern game journalist sense).
The one thing I do love about 2 though is that the actual dungeons feel huge compared to 1's. I replayed 1 about a year ago and I was surprised at how short it was compared to what I remembered. Every main ruin was only like 4 rooms max and even the interconnected one was kind of short. If they ever make MML3, I really hope they keep that living, breathing world design from 1, but also work in the better dungeon design of 2. Honestly those games are still some of my favorites ever and I've never really played anything comparable to that really wonderful unique design that 1 had.
>And the gameplay impact, as a result, is a smooth 60 FPS
The game runs at 30fps. But it does have a much better draw distance than the majority of PS1 game which I always appreciated..
Enjoy bros.
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Is that so? Must've been the emulator I was using. It's been a while since I played the originals on disk.
So, what about a civilization on the moon?
I think Nintendo could handle MML3 imo.
>If you buy eighty billion copies of the next twenty Mega Man game compilations, remasters and other such rehashing of the things we already made then we might consider making MML 3 if you keep it up for a few years once we know you are interested in the series but only maybe
Legends had a massive audience they were just lazy about it and now they are never going to commit to it because it would be a sequel to a game that is older than their target audience and would only get a few sales. Its more likely for them to reboot Legends entirely than it is for them to make a third game for the series.
Well the Master probably did shit with the moon tbqh.
>While MML1 had kind of a similar progression, it was better at "hiding" it due to the nature of the game's design feeling less "gamey"
I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't describe it as less "gamey". I'd describe it as a more compact game. From what I remember, this game was one of Capcom's first forays into a full 3D title (to demonstrate the ability of the playstation at sony's request) so my bet was that they didn't want to push anything too far or risk running out of money or time or room. So every single part of the game had to matter. Legends 2 had more breathing room, so they could make bigger environments and more set pieces.
How the fuck do you even make assets like this?
>Its more likely for them to reboot Legends entirely than it is for them to make a third game for the series.
Better for them to just not touch it then.
Every part of me wants to despise 2 for being so different from 1 but I can't do it. Yeah I know the pacing is awful, I know it throws out half of what made Legends special, and I know the cliffhanger ending fucking sucks and Bola and Klaymoor have no reason to exist. But there's something about the game that I love just for halfassedly trying to be grand.
But I just wish it was longer.
A remaster in the vein of the Crash and Spyro ones is the only sensible route to revive the series and they're not gonna do it because it's a huge fucking risk with how little they sold back on the PS1.
The Zero/ZX Collection is probably it for the MegaMan compilations until the next console generation when they do another repackage of the Classic and X ones, and Legends 3 lost its chance at ever happening when it was the victim of an unceremonious cancellation. The series is dead outside of Tron occasionally showing up in crossover games like Morrigan does.
Basically? Colored cubes aligned together to form an object.
I was figuring that if they actually did do a MML3, it would alternate between shit happening on Earth and then Mega Man on the moon exploring Elysium with Yuna and Sera. I remember the first time I played and getting to that residential area and Elysium and just being blown away by how it looked and imagining how other areas in that place might be. That place and the subcities in 1 always filled me with a sense of mystery.
I think Nintendo could handle Mega Man in general. Nintendo are the only people around that somehow managed to translate their big 8-bit franchises over to 3D and retain a lot of that original charm without falling off the cliff. Zelda, and Mario are still as relevant today as they were in the 80s. I'd like to see a BotW or Odyssey tier Mega Man game from Capcom but it'll probably never happen.
Not even him but MML2 completely improved on MML1's gameplay. This isn't even a debate. I'll admit that MML1's story and minigames were better though.
I don't want Nintendo anywhere near it because they hate the series. After Legends 2 was made PS exclusive and the N64 port of Legends 1 was shoddy, you know nintendo would purposely botch it up on purpose just out of spite.
What's there to explore on Elysium that we haven't already explored in MML2?
That'll why I wish Nintendo bought the Megaman IP from Capcom.
Yes, you are
It's Capcom so if they can't delude themselves into thinking it will sell 15 million copies then it won't be made. I don't know why they are always so delusional about sales figures and think everything is a disappointment.
Literally none of this is true though.
>blame Nintendo for a shitty port done by Capcom
I think MML2 was better than MML1 in pretty much every well. Hell I think MML2 has better pacing than MML1. MML1 takes way to long to get interesting and the first 3 or 4 dig sites are boring as fuck to trudge through, not to mention the combat in MML1 is fucking dull as shit while 2 made quite a few improvements. Yeah locking on and then just circle strafing around the enemy and occasionally jumping will solve about 90% of all encounter in both games but the controls are better and 2 and so is the enemy variety. 2 also just looks better, first one all the digs look pretty much the same while in 2 they're varied and detailed and each one has it's own theme to it. It's still not quite up to par with OoT/MM but they were a huge improvement over the first one.
Yeah I agree. The dungeons were way longer, armor customization actually exists now and the sub ruins having three different enemy layouts was really good. The way enemies would pop up from the ground was cool too but none of the overworld areas were long enough to fully abuse it.
People don't hate Star Force though, wouldn't Xover be more appropriate?
>you know nintendo would purposely botch it up on purpose just out of spite.
When has anything even remotely like this ever happened?
Why the fuck would a company buy an IP or strike an exclusive deal to use an IP only to purposefully botch it just to damage perception of that IP? What the fuck are you even on about?
>I don't want Nintendo anywhere near it because they hate the series.
At least try to make up less nonsensical reasons to justify your hateboner for a company. Like Nintendo gives or gave a fuck about a low-selling game not being ported to the N64 when there's been a million Megaman games on Nintendo consoles since. You genuinely believe from the bottom of your heart that somewhere out there a Nintendo executive has been holding a twenty year grudge for a subseries just waiting to get his revenge?
If Legendstrannies actually bought MML2 then MML3 would have been made like 15 years ago. Too bad most of the people who are still triggered by that tweet weren't even alive then
I gotta agree with most of this but I still think MML1's minigames were a lot more fun than MML2's.
I agree. The digs vastly improved in MML2 and made them feel very unique over the first game.
I legitimately didn't know Legends 2 existed at the time because no fucking store carried the game and I never saw an ad for it once.
I know it sounds silly, but if Capcom would purposely sink a series because of their hate of Inafune, would it be any more crazy to think Nintendo would hold ill will to a series that pretty much left their consoles during a period where their console was being outsold by their competitors? I don't picture Nintendo as my friend, so by default I don't give them the benefit of the doubt.
I still haven't forgiven them for killing off F-Zero because "I can't think of anything else of adding to it"- Miyamoto. And yet Mario Kart is on its 50th installment.
yes it can, dubs will prove
You're literally talking nonsense at this point especially when Megaman games still appeared on Nintendo platforms even after MML1.
Seek therapy
>would it be any more crazy to think Nintendo would hold ill will to a series that pretty much left their consoles during a period where their console was being outsold by their competitors?
Yes it would be you mouthbreathing retard. This is the type of dumbass logic that you come up with when you work backwards from a idiotic conclusion.
Surprised that the whole thing is on YouTube.
I'm not talking Megaman in general. I'm talking the Legends series.
Excuse me if I don't blindly worship a corporation and think it inconceivable for them to ever do something wrong.
>but I still think MML1's minigames were a lot more fun than MML2's.
The only minigame I really recall enjoying in either game was the votoms-esque racing skates stuff and they had like specialized racing tracks and track ghosts to race against in MML2's version of it. As I recall MML1 just gave you a timer to get from point A to point B.
I was thinking of Roll and others coming to pick him up, only to find out the moon has its own people, and that some shit is going down on the place.
Seriously, talk to someone.
Your logic is still fucking stupid. The N64 port was handled by Capcom. Nintendo has no reason to feel any ill will here.
I always liked to think that all the ruins everywhere were secretly connected. That the reason the world flooded was due to some impossibly huge super structure being submerged in the ocean causing the water level to rise and flooding the planet. With the ruins being just the above ground parts of it.
It could have been a floating super techno super continent that spanned all the oceans of the planet and was sank due to conflict or someone was actively trying to reshape the world and created it as the foundation for the new world but never had a chance to actually build all the land on top of it like they planned.
>Excuse me if I don't blindly worship a corporation and think it inconceivable for them to ever do something wrong.
Calling you a moron because you think that it's sensible for a company to buy a niche IP, develop it themselves, then deliberately make it bad with the intent of it selling poorly is this totally sane idea and not batshit lunacy doesn't even constitute defence of a company. This isn't even getting into the trainwreck of logic you used to get here because you worked backwards from "nintendo bad". Seek therapy.
They don't give a shit about Inafune, dumbass, they care about money. If Capcom intentionally tanked every IP that was created by someone who left their company on bad terms, they would have gone bankrupt in like 1990.
The TV station minigames from MML1 were pretty fun.
man i mostly buy old game and indies nowadays despite owning all three consoles and a hefty PC rig, and i think you're just looking for an excuse to distrust the corporations because they're corporations with a broad distaste without balance or rationality.
Unironically and unhyperbolically you sound like a crazy person with irrational biases and unresolved emotional issues jumping to a nonsensical conclusion because you can't see the forest for all the trees.
They would feel pissed due to MML2 exclusivity. Look at today. When a series becomes exclusive when it previously was a multiplat, alot of people flip their lids. You don't remember Bayonetta? Or the whole Epic games store fiasco?
If you think it's literally impossible for Nintendo to ever do something wrong, or even purposely spend money out of spite, then you don't know Nintendo. You seem to have forgotten how horrible they were back in the old days, from their draconian practices towards devs, to their price hiking and even frivolous lawsuits.
I'm just saying it's a possibility when they purposely put out tweets like thisIf you don't remember the context, this was after Capcom promised to release the demo FOR A PRICE. They willingly turned down the chance for money from the fans out of sheer spite and canceled the demo before it even got released. You can call me stupid, but how do you defend that?
Please stop posting. You sound dumber and dumber everytime.
ok retard
Just think of me as someone who doesn't want Nintendo to touch Legends, when they already treat their IPs badly if they don't make enough money. Even their popular IPs can't hold a candle to Legends. I just don't want it to suffer degradation because Nintendo are incompetent ninnies, not that I'm implying Capcom is any better.
But they aren't on the moon.
Admittedly the real mystery doesn't start until Clozer ruins but if you look around the game drops new dialog after each major event most of it pertaining to the Pirates and the game's backstory. There's even a early bird cameo by Wily if you backtrack during a point where you might be tempted to just go fight Tiesel.
I always liked the idea that Mega Man died, but parts of him were salvaged and reused to create X, in a way, reincarnating him.
It's literally pixel art, except in 3 dimensions.
>Capcom never treated Legends badly, lol stop being entitled
>Nintendo is a patron saint who has never done anything bad either
Whatever you say fellas. Let's all just ignore history with our patented rose colored glasses.
Elysium isn't the moon?
You're an utter moron, nothing plot relevant happens in 2 after you're told to get the keys up until you got them all, 85% of the game is literally going through the motions, you have no idea what "good pacing" mean
Your beautiful :)
No? Unless I'm remembering wrong.
>They would feel pissed due to MML2 exclusivity. Look at today. When a series becomes exclusive when it previously was a multiplat, alot of people flip their lids. You don't remember Bayonetta? Or the whole Epic games store fiasco?
Let's start by getting the fact that that's a fucking moronic comparison because you're comparing customer reactions to paid exclusives to how you think the executives of a Japanese video game company in the late nineties would react to a game deciding to not be ported to a different console after lackluster sales of the first game.
Second, you want to know what actually happens when Nintendo gets pissed over exclusives? Square tells Nintendo that they don't want to develop Final Fantasy 7 on N64 and Nintendo cuts all ties with them and won't let them release games for any Nintendo systems at all until they eventually came crawling back and renegotiated to release GBA games.
So we actually know what happens when Nintendo is angry at exclusivity. Where was that for Capcom? Oh right, it never happened because you're a crazy dumbass. Stop posting.
The fact that you think that the issue here is that people think that Nintendo isn't capable of doign bad things and not that your logic is batshit insane from a business and logical perspective is why you keep repeating the same shit over and over.
>There's even a early bird cameo by Wily
Wait what? Seriously?
I bought a PSTV for sale years ago and use it to play PSone classics like Tron Bonne.
I think instead of doubling down on your retardation you'd be better served by taking the L gracefully, and then taking a moment to reevaluating where you went so wrong and try to look at things as objectively as possible. You're arguing a company would out of a 20 year old grudge would buy an IP and purposefully make it bad just to spite someone when there is absolutely no evidence for anything like this ever happening before.
Finding the motivation for corporation's decisions are simple, they want to make money that's pretty much it. Why do they sometimes do nice things? Because that breeds loyalty and consumer good will which means people feel more comfortable spending money, they're not doing it out of altruism, there are no altruistic corporations it's just occasionally the cynical approach can be disguised as altruism. Why didn't they release the MML3 demo even though it was for money? Because they ran some numbers and decided it probably wasn't going to make enough money to warrant further development. And there was a possibility if they did release it and it was bad there was a chance it would hurt them, so ultimately they decided not to do it.
Now look at your crazy theory crafting with Nintendo, why would they spend money buying the rights to use a game, and then purposefully make it bad just to settle a 20 year old grudge? Where is the money to be made in that? Where is the history of this sort of behavior that would lead you to this conclusion? Just try to think about things logically next time.
Developing a demo costs money, you insane twat. They literally did the math and realized that throwing even more money at the project was a fucking retarded idea considering the Legends fanbase's history of not buying games in the first place.
I'll put it for you in a food analogy so you and people of a similar room temperature IQ level can understand. Your suggestion that Nintendo, if they acquired the rights to MML3, would purposely tank it out of spite for some perceived slight about a semi-poorly done port of a game that barely sold a million copies 20 years ago, is like assuming that your mom is going to put arsenic in the birthday cake she said she'd bake for you because 20 years ago she bought a cake for you from the store and you said it was kind of stale.
There was a Dr. Slump game that looks like Legends you should check out
I guess I can see your side of the argument. I still think Nintendo shouldn't touch MML3 and I consider them a shitty company because they haven't made anything astonishing in 20 years, but I suppose they're not that petty. I just don't want Legends 3 to be monkey paw'd by retarded devs.
sex party with tron when?
There never was a thid game, only a fist and secod.
Tron Bonne counts
No she doesn't, she can't even spel
The irony of the whole situation is that the cancellation kicked off enough publicity that if MML3 ever happens, assuming that MML passes the Capcom re-release test, it'll probably sell better than it actually would have on the 3DS. As much as a kick in the dick as MML3's cancellation is, it does make sense from an internal perspective. Megaman sales are tanking, Inafune keeps greenlighting projects Capcom doesn't want, proceeds to greenlight his pet project in extremely shaky circumstances, and then publicly burns his bridges as he leaves the company. Capcom is left with a game they don't want in a series that is selling badly in a niche subseries that sold the worst of all. As much as it looked like spite at the time it's probably the most justifiable cancellation.
Yea Forums being weird right now didn't let me cancel my post before I could adjust it but I take back that last part, there was clearly a fuckton of spite involved because MM11's producer flat out stated that Megaman became a black term in-company since it was Inafune's baby and that's why it took so long for somebody to find the nerve to stand up and push for Megaman to make a comeback.. But it still at least makes sense why it got on the chopping block.
The cancellation was pure retardation and you know it
Guys I want the sentinel Megaman Legends toys but they're about 10000 yen now for a 4 inch figure and I want to cry. They even have dark Volnutt and a nurse Roll. myfigurecollection.net
Plus I'm a leaf so its like 130 dollars plus shipping....
>he keeps posting sluts
He didn't say Mega Man became a black term, he said people were hesitant to try to fill Inafune's shoes as the Mega Man guy. They all had their own shit going on and nobody wanted to be Inafune's replacement
Isn't Megaman in Legends literally an alien robot?
I can't remember when but sometime during the bonnes attack he'll be in the main area near the Library.
>Someone drew art of best skank
Noice
What? People seriously dislike Legends 2?
Are you fucking nuts? The game is incredible. Yeah so there's no overarching grand ruins. So what? That usually gives the developer an excuse to make it all look the same. MML2 is just fucking amazing. Compare the special weapon arms for one thing; they all actually are useful in MML2 whereas in 1, most of them are obsolete by the time you can obtain them.
last week i had a nightmare where I was inside the world of Legends 2 and had to take the quiz over and over
Legends 2 tries too hard to juggle several antagonists and a bigger plot but you're left with a game that's really heavy on cutscenes in the first half and mostly text and filler in the rest. By the time the story gets going again after the obligatory wild goose chase the story is pretty much over. The clowns are ferried out of the plot conveniently so the 2serious 4me stuff can start and after the big revelation you're left with nothing but a huge plot dump by two NPC's and final dingeon.
That said the game is pretty as shit and the dungeons are ace. Especially the last one.
It's okay user, you're safe now. On an unrelated note, What year was Hall & Oates' hit album "Private Eyes" released?
It's a big question mark. The fact is this "Wily" is a major character you cross paths with, not some gag NPC tucked away that just happens to be named "Wily." It seems they wanted people to wonder.
about to start x legacy collection 2, should i know anything before playing x5? should i subject myself to the torture that is x6 and x7?
Pick X as the starting character.
X6 is not that bad
x5 is the blandest one, it's pretty lame
x7 is not even worth playing. x6 has garbage level design but still better than x7
don't listen this loser, X5 is the best one in story
Just found out this game has prime brown c*nny in it.
>The master refused this for Trigger
he's a fag, looks like a woman
X5 was the only X game where shit actually felt like it was on the line. To be fair, it does disappoint in some areas. Specifically, the outcome of the third Sigma stage battle, especially when playing as Zero.
Also fuck Alia
megamix was too good for this world
what's that
Why didn't anyone just go back in time to prevent catastrophes like the Eurasia crash or the Elf wars?
Time travel had been possible since the classic era.
They probably lost the ability or history, going back is a bit pointless when you don't know whats going on, like does X even knows about Wily?
I could never get into MML2 as a kid because they changed Mega Man's voice, and he sounded really girly all of a sudden.
Is it worth playing today? I loved the first one growing up
yes
>tfw want to play legends just for sexy roll but cant stand the english dub and there are no unpatched iso with nip VAs but english subs
its been decades now, how come nobody with hack skills done this?
voxel -minecraft
>yfw two guys deciding to work on internet stuff instead of robots saves humanity from extiction
reminder he has ZERO problems with Albert's plan to reset the entire world aside how he try to do it himself.
His reset will lead to Legends
because Nintendo is just going to shelve it and keep milking Fire Emblem
nice plan idiot
>leaked
what???
standing....
here
You are now hearing the little store theme
>the only megaman without love interest
LAUGH AT HIM
>make MML3 yourselfes, fags
Is this build achievable natty?
>What if Zero was a grill?
It kind of does get hated by people upset it's just BN lite in terms of combat.
00 isn't new, nor was it a glimpse of the future apart from it starting the trend of Gundam series masturbating over particle effects.
>be legends fag
>suffer for over a decade
>game gets announced as final long awaited installment
>gets cancelled
>this was 8 years ago
its been 18 fucking years
Pretty clear that the image is fucking old
Juno was a kino final boss.
I barely even remember the final boss in Legends 2.
I liked the OVA
because there were 2 fights with sera right after a boss rush whereas legends 1 was "you have literally just gone into space to stop your equivalent of a commanding officer"
Who is Zero then?
Roll Caskett is cute and funny!
IT'S BEEN 19. FUCKING N I N E T E E N
I'LL FUCKING KILL MYSELF
Are carbons just people permafused with specially made biometals?
What about Alia?
Carbons just mean carbon based life forms.
please stop looking up their cash cow franchises and pretend they woukd do it any better with their IPs
Nintendo would either shelve it or give the series to a crappy developler.
also every Mega Man fangames getting shut down for "driving the series image" instead of neutral stances Capcom have.
fucking Touhou BN had traces of profit behind it.
Me and my brothers go back and try to beat this without cheating about once a year
more like chocolate mint ;9
zx series is canonicly before legends time line wise. the bio metals and those that can use them are the precursors to carrbons