BanKazu

I hope for some rare music outside of BK as well.

Anyone wanna see this spirit battle?

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SUGOI ONII-SAN DESU NE

Are you a jap you cringetopia?

Diddy Kong Racing and Conker music would be dope.

I'd nail Kazooie....

is this supposed to be the DKR cast?

Forgetting someone? I'd almost suggest Killer Instinct tunes as well, but those would probably be too "intense" for the atmosphere of Spiral Mountain.

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Why can't I view their profile on the website

Needs Falco as Drumstick and Bayonetta as T.T. (because she does time shit)

youtube.com/watch?v=A8lEcwFfq7c

Yes, the colors in the back are the color of their vehicles

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they're not ready yet :(
shame, because we'd be able to see all their alts if they were

>Battletoads spirit battle

>Killer Instinct tunes would be too intense for Spiral Mountain
>Jungle Japes literally has a cut KI theme
youtube.com/watch?v=ecpMeFI4wyM

From left to right top to bottom.
Krunch, Dixie, Bumper, Banjo
Conker, TipTup, Pipsy, Timber

>didn't even have to hit the play button to hear it in my head
That track would fit perfectly for Spiral Mountain, honestly.

They could do one of Sabrewulf's stage themes.

That's true, I forgot about that. That said, I'd only accept The Way U Move, just to add more 90s cheesy flavor to Spiral Mountain.

U know the jiggy fanfare os the victory theme

Diddy is just Diddy there

>Play on Spiral Mountain
>youtube.com/watch?v=fexAY_t4N8U begins to play

I just hope that one of his victory animations has the result screen empty, then he knocks on the tv screen and "guh-huh!"s into view.

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Another one can be his cute trot when he gets a jiggy.

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Between Banjo's series, Microsoft IPs, and Rare IPs, they could make three waves of Mii costumes out of it and people would eat them up. There's so much potential.
>Fulgore brawler
>Jet Force Gemini gunners
>Conker swordsman or gunner
>Master Chief
>Cuphead
>Perfect Dark
>Battletoads
the list goes on

This would be the number two spirit battle in the entire game.

>first Vagina Bob-omb
>now potentially this

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What would his spirit ability be, though?

Vagina Bob-Omb?

>>first Vagina Bob-omb
is Ground Zeroes being ported to Switch?

Paz

Paz's spirit lets you start the fight with a bob-omb. And in GZ she dies because she had a snuke up her snizz.

boom

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No, but it's sounds fucking funny. Why do you care?

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I know this probably won't happen but I'd love if we could also have some of the Rare era DK tracks on Spiral Mountain.

Kek that grab sounds great. I was thinking Banjo grabs them and Kazooie prcks them.

Rash Mii costume better happen

>Battletoads mii costume
>it still looks better than the toads do in the new upcoming game

Music:
Spiral Mountain (Original)
Spiral Mountain (Remix)
Treasure Trove Cove
Freezeezy Peak
Click Clock Wood
BanjoLand
Showdown Town
Isle O Hags
Hag 1
Glitter Gultch Mine
Hailfire Peaks
Gruntilda's Lair (Remix?)
BK Final Battle\\

Victory fanfare will probably be the jiggy collect theme, maybe note door opening theme

Fully expect a Grunty boss battle and boss rush mode to come with Banjo, maybe home run contest as well.

>Grunty boss battle
I want this bad. But why do you say “expect” couldn’t she be just a stage hazard/set piece?

>Fully expect a Grunty boss battle

Prepare to be disappointed.

In the trailer if you section off the music alone and isolate the track you hear the same pre-boss music sound that only plays for the other bosses in the game. I'm taking that at face value and assuming she's a boss, which also would make boss rush more likely.

If you want a video of it, Papa Genos did a video that included it, but he himself didn't hear it but I heard it clearly. Maybe he's hard of hearing

Oooh. Neat. That would honestly make the dream complete for me. Main reason I wanted Banjo in the base roster was the possibility of a Grunty battle. If I somehow still get it, that’d be gravy.
She’s half of what makes Banjo Kazooie so great to me

Joker didn't come with a new boss. Neither did Hero. I think the best case scenario is she's a stage boss like Yellow Devil or Metal Face.

He has a point though, regarding the boss intro jingle.
Do you have a comparison or source so we can hear it too?

>getting at least one music remake, and the music situation overall isn't dire to work around
>good chance of off-franchise Rareware or Microsoft Mii Costumes
>potentially even a boss battle
Persona and Banjo getting remixes already makes Hero's Fighter Pack look stingy, but a boss battle and a variety of costume sources in Banjo's Pack would absolutely embarrass Square Enix. Please let this come to be.

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Norfair or Brinstar Depths would make way more sense

Wait, Banjo still isn't in the game? How fucking long do you have to wait to actually get what you paid for with this season pass?

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youtube.com/watch?v=ZfUAWUG8XnM

22 minutes 26 seconds in the little boss music plays, hard to hear in this video but papa genos discusses it. There's probably other videos discussing it, but I heard it for sure and am fully expecting a grunty boss battle

We like Banjo

youtube.com/watch?v=AZjKOa-qWO8

Towards the end of the video, it's easier to hear in this video. It's the same menacing music that plays before the other bosses like Marx and only plays before a boss

Everybody has to be out before Feb 2020

The Japanese call him that

Its just the master belch spirit battle with the mighty poo on top of it

I'm hoping to fuck sometime in September, but my pessimistic patternfagging is making me think October is more likely.

Nintendo has been very obviously and deliberately spacing announcements out as best they can for the past couple years because they know that doing so makes people more thirsty for news and thus more invested in their brand. I wouldn't be surprised if the Fighters Pass doesn't finish on time in February. I expect an April conclusion.

The third one can be Kazooie related, perhaps she pops out of his backpack and and the screen pans to her or something

I just really hope that, apart from the BK music, we'll get these 2 tracks:

youtube.com/watch?v=pwU_WueGQQM
youtube.com/watch?v=gAS-Ux0mEDY

3 Greninjas on F-Zero

Ah ok nvm then

Bring Grunty's trivia minigame into smash, kind of like what they have at the end of world of light

>implying the victory theme would be anything other than the song that plays when you get a jiggy

They didnt give megaman his iconic stage clear theme, anything can happen

Gruntilda is a massive part of what makes Banjo-Kazooie such a memorable game. This bitch kidnaps your little sister, dishes out smack in rhyme during the entire game, and holds a fucking deadly game show before the final boss. She is a massive personality and I can't think of a franchise currently in the fighter pass more deserving of a boss.

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I wanna be Tracer.

Im praying the amiibo schedule is consistent and we get him the end of sept

Its not often you see a basic looking villain work so well. Really shows how good Rare was at making interesting villains.

>Banjo runs onto scene and performs a Flip-Flap
>the camera stops on the duo's faces mid-air and their names show up
>fucks the landing up and lands square on his face with kazooie holding a wing over her face in laughter

They sure were.

Ahem. Miyamoto. You spiteful fuck.

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I really really hope there is a Snake codex easter egg on Spiral where Grunty Shit talks everyone. I bet Sakurai would work with the Rare boys to make some lines since voice work is just "REEEGH RAAH REEEEHH!!!"

>>victory jingle and animations
Jiggy Get for the jingle
Banjo knocking on the screen and giving a thumbs up for an animation
also the animation they do when you get a Jiggy
>>music tracks for Spiral Mountain
All I want is a remix of Grunty's boss theme
>>character cameos on their stage
Aside from Bottles and Mumbo, it'd be nice to see Tooty and Jamjars return
>>remaining moveset (all aerials aside bair, up smash, down smash, up tilt, grabs, aerial up special, etc.)
Taxi Pack for grab
Bill Drill for down grab
Beak Buster for down air
>>release date
ideally late September, but it'll probably be mid October

They did make an incredible buildup with her. She's fucking taunting you the whole time

>Oh... That's neat. Another fire Pokémon. All this variety is making me yawn!
>A waste of an invite, you make me balk, from the top of your head to the bottom of your stalk!
>You're a Joker, alright, the biggest one around, in fact you really ought to be called "Clown"!
>Another brat I wish they would exclude, you're nothing but overgrown seafood!
>Sad little robot, outdated and lame, it's no wonder you only have two games!
>No one really likes you, let's be clear, you're only back in because Everyone is Here!

I was about to ask you what number one was until I realized the joke.

a new orchestral arrangement of Sloprano would be the shit, but it'll never happen

what are the chances of us getting diddy kong racing music?
youtube.com/watch?v=Z8boRM6xRXg

>I'm the only true wicked witch! This Bayonetta is just a nasty... I was just informed this game is rated E.

Seeing as Microsoft has no stake in Diddy Kong Racing, I'm gonna say zero.

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>instead of talking shit about Wario she flirts at him

>that foul musk! That garlicky air! I couldn't ask for anyone more debonair!

No, it sounds fucking gay, faggot.

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Perfetto.

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Doesnt that just improve the chances? Doesnt Nintendo have the right to DKR music and could add it without much repercussion?

>>victory jingle and animations
Jiggy get, but I like that one guy's idea of the note door too.
>>music tracks for Spiral Mountain
Final Battle, Lair remix with all parts, Click Clock Wood,
FREEZEEZY PEAK OR RIOT
>>character cameos on their stage
Mumbo and Bottles as we already saw. Jam Jars, Klungo, Humba. No Tootie pls
>>spirits
Game Over Grunty pls
>>alt colors
Boggie skin or riot. Dragon Kazooie, sun glasses, and low poly are dream choices we wont get
>>remaining moveset (all aerials aside bair, up smash, down smash, up tilt, grabs, aerial up special, etc.)
Hoping a move will be the chainsaw kazooie from the first threeie trailer.
>>release date
Mid September pls in time for my birthday

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I mean Kirkhope literally made his entire BK OST available for free. I doubt we will because they want equivalent values between DLC packs, but we could in theory get every single stage track in the game.

>Square Enix being stingy again could actually reduce the amount of potential content for other DLC fighters

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>You're the king of fighters? What a gaffe! Without your team, you're quite a laugh!
>It's time for you to finish the fight! By which I mean, get out of my sight!
>Something's screwy with this space marine, even I find his brutality obscene!
>Lawyers are the creatures I most resent! I certainly hold you in great contempt! yes it's a pseudo-rhyme, fuck you

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>Square Enix is the reason why Sonic has no new remixes
>Square Enix is why DK, Diddy and K. Rool make realistic animal noises
>Square Enix is why there is no Bowser's Castle stage
>If Banjo turns out to be shit tier, Square Enix will be to blame.

>Square is literally the reason Sakurai ran out of budget for dlc and has to resort to livestreaming the fighter reveals

>victory jingle
Jiggy get theme

>victory jingle
It's the Jiggy theme. Why do we even keep asking a question with such an obvious answer?

This

And this is another reason why I'd I vote to have Square Enix barred from future Smash games. Even if you can blame the music scenario on composers being assholes, they're still in the SE wheelwell, and SE are stingy in other ways too. Final Fantasy only has two Smash renders for Spirits, we LOST two SE costumes even after SE's DLC pack, and it's abundantly clear by now that Square Enix was the guilty party that Sakurai referenced when he said that Everyone is Here almost didn't happen.
I genuinely think SE were a big factor in this. I hope the Banjo Kazooie video is still entertaining but I know that he won't be nearly as excited or passionate about them as he was for Hero and the chance to work with Dragon Quest.

>playing WoL with Banjo
can't wait

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personally I'd like a smaller cut of this song from the first game:
youtube.com/watch?v=E0MsaRoRhQs

>tfw had the same idea
I knew I wasn't the only one that didn't hate WoL

what is Kirby-Banjo going to look like? how will he shoot eggs?

I don't own a Switch but for real Banjo & Kazooie in Smash makes me want to buy one. I've wanted this for about 18 years

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>Coo-Zooie
this is too good to happen and you know it

>Banjo vs Dracula
This is the shit I live for

"BEGONE MR DRACULA, YOU DON'T ER.. BELONG IN THIS WORLD..!"

"Peck off Buck Tooth Tool"

>playing WoL

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"WHAT IS A BREEGULL?"

to add on to this, what about their entrance animation?
think it'll be something lame like Joker's? Like just flying in or something?

All I ask is for the Mii costumes to represent Rare as a whole
>Rash (Brawler)
>Joanna Dark (Gunner)
>Conker w/baseball bat (Swordfighter)

Stepping off a entrance pad from Kazooie/the weird particle effect from them going to different worlds in Kazooie

Would you guys like to see him also getting in???

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yeah but nintendo doesn't own rare so its never happening

"A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF EGGS"

Then why is banjo playable?? He’s also owned by rare

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"Alright, enough yammering, bat breath. Let's get this over with."

It's funny to compare how they updated K. Rool's design with Banjo.

With K. Rool, they took several elements from his original Rare renders from the 90s all while modernising it with elements from the later Paon games, ultimately creating a more refined look. Bano & Kazooie on the other hand are literally just their old Rare renders brought up to modern times. Even Steve Mayles himself was surprised how faithful it was to their original looks. gamesradar.com/he-always-needs-his-tight-shorts-the-character-designer-behind-banjo-kazooie-talks-about-his-smash-debut/

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bayo's should be more "no over sexualized" characters more than no violent characters

I think a better argument would be "it's unlikely they'll be picking two Rare characters for the fighter's pass"

Rare mentioned in their blog post about the announcement one of the lead artists at Rare (Who also worked on the art team for BK/BT/N&B) worked with the Smash art team on Banjo. Which is probably why he looks so in line and faithful.

K. Rool's Paon design had at least some elements worth salvaging.
Banjo & Kazooie's Nuts & Bolts design didn't.

lol autism

>Niggas don't think victory jingle will be youtube.com/watch?v=hc60BYzrwdA

>one western collaborated pack gets the most content out of them all
Do it. just for that extra kick in the throat for weebfags who said it would never happen in the first place

>Release date
The week after september 20th. They're already done so there's no need to hold them for october and so far, every fighter pass dropped after amiibo drop

>They're already done
Source?

Probably will get a nuts and bolts track (As much as people dislike that game, the soundtrack was one of the best parts) and maybe a Rareware medley

>every fighter pass dropped after amiibo drop
this is true, isn't it?
>Piranha Plant, K. Rool, and Ice Climbers were in February
>Piranha Plant released in February
>Daisy, Ken, Y. Link in April
>Joker released in April
>Pokémon Trainer, and Isabelle released in July
>Hero released in July
Not really sure why people haven't seen this earlier.

We know hero and banjo were worked on alongside joker since launch
7 months is more than enough to finish a character, as evidenced by hero releasing the month after his reveal

I specifically left out plant since he wasn't in the pass and dropped before his respective wave, but every fighter afterwards dropped the week after an amiibo wave dropped

Bring some other Rare tracks, I want Fulgore and TJ's themes.
youtube.com/watch?v=6JapDyUwAu8

That's Banjo & Kazooie though.
This is BanKazu.

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youtube.com/watch?v=hc60BYzrwdA

I want this to be the victory theme.
Obviously it's going to be the Jiggy fanfare but this would be the superior choice still.

They probably have first and last say in how their IP is represented user. NintenJaps didn't even design Banjo for Smash, some guy at Rare did. Unless someone at Microsoft/Rare says put some Diddy Kong Racing music on our property's stage you can bet your ass that it's not going to happen.

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Reading that shit makes me so happy

That's pretty damn good.

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I think dragon Kazooie is way more likely than you think. We got two completely different designs for Joker and 4 for hero

whats his endgame, Yea Forums?

anyone got the video of those Japs reacting to banjo in smash and singing the spiral mountain theme?

youtu.be/E-YbgFu0oFM

May be in part 1 but I love the dinosaur

The Dinosaur guy is my jam

not seeing the reveal live is a regret ill take to the grave

I think this has to be one of his victory animations

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That entire day was such a blast. The lead up to the reveal was some of the most ball-sack tightening tension I've felt in a while. Once that Jiggy bounced across the floor I lost it. After that is was nothing but side-splitting hilarity from the fallout on Yea Forums.

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Does Kazooie's head actually just pop in like that into the video?

Honestly as soon as Hero's reveal happened at the beginning of the presentation I knew there'd be another at the end, and at that point there was pretty much nobody else that would have been worthy of capping off E3.
Still had my cheeks clenched on the off chance it wasn't them, though.

Basically it went like this.
>Hero Reveal
Saw that coming, ehhh he looks fine. Glad 8 was referenced, I like DQ8.
>Rest of the Direct
Ok
>See's DK with Diddy and K.Rool.
Wait....these dudes are from Rare..Could it?
>*Jiggy*
*Pic Related*
YES! YES! YES!!!

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>victory jingle
It's gotta be this
youtube.com/watch?v=OqGiFtIaCSQ
It fits too damn well

>Victory Jingle
Jiggy get. One of the animations will likely reference the opening to the first game. Banjo will knock on the camera and give a thumbs up.
>Music
I'm expecting only music that fits the stage. Maybe we'll get the Grunty battle from the first game.
>Cameos
We've seen them all. Humba isn't getting in as much as I want her too. She'll be deemed problematic by people who have no authority to make that call.
>Spirits
Banjo characters and some Rare guys.
>Alts
Multiplayer colors plus that pink one. The other two will be dragon Kazooie.

>Multiplayer colors
Am I the only one that thinks this is the most boring choice for colors?

That's why I think it's likely. I'm kind of hoping that we'll get some colors to match the D.K crew. We already have pink, so maybe we can expect white black and possibly yellow/gold?

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this. i'd rather play SSE

I want smash run back. I WANT TO PLAY AS BANJO AND FIGHT A GOOMBA AND THEN HAVE 200 KID ICARUS CHARACTERS SPAWN ON TOP OF ME IN MID-ATTACK SO I CAN'T REACT AND GET IMMEDIATELY K.Od.

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I honestly miss that goofy as fuck plot and the character interactions
>Captain Falcon accidentally obliterating Olimar's entire Pikmin squad
>Mr. Game & Watch tea party
>Wario getting overwhelmed by Waddle Dees and having his trophy stash stolen by Dedede

Wrong, Sakurai hates any Kirby game he didn't work on, and that is a fact.

The literal only change is that Banjo is across the board wider and has a smaller head.
Wider torso, bigger arms, baggier shorts, and a smaller head but it's otherwise 1:1

Honestly, this wouldn't surprise me all that much if it was included just because of how well it fits.

Two Rare characters (from their own IPs), at least for now, seems like a pipe dream unfortunately.

Even if they couldn't have too many cinematic cutscenes, they still could have had the characters actually interact more. Text conversations with portraits, in-game models, or some combination of them would have sufficed.

I can tell that folks on Sakurai's team were excited to work on Banjo content, even if that doesn't include Sakurai himself. Someone wanted full justice done to someone who should've been in almost 2 decades ago.

I can tell that folks on Sakurai's team were excited to work on Banjo content, even if that doesn't include Sakurai himself. There is a lot of care and passion just from what we've seen so far.

I guarantee there will be at least 1-2 other rare properties referenced in Spiral Mountain, like conker on a tree stump

>DLC characters still don't get a Palutena's Guidance
>Its literally just calling in the voice actors for 5 minutes
>Even though they objectively have to put in more work on Kirby for every DLC character
Maybe Palu's Guidance will be replaced with something not awful next game and Banjo can get some decent crossover dialogue then.

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Grunty talking smack would be the easiest to do since there's no VAing needed, just a few writers. But everything written would still need to be passed through MS and translated

I'd love Palutena's Guidance if it was actually as funny as KI:U was.

3rd pose better be this

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I still can't believe we had Snake Codec calls in Brawl
God damn, what a step down PG is. It's hard to sit through most of the fucking Guidances, where ALL of the Codec calls were fantastic

>>victory jingle
He'll have multiple a la Joker
>end part of the Banjo Kazooie theme (the end Banjo flourish) (only if you're fighting exclusively Nintendo characters)
>Jiggy Get fanfare (default)
>Note Door/all Jiggies in a world collected fanfare (1/10 chance)
>All Jinjos Collected fanfare (only if you won via Final Smash)

shut the fuck up weeb

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I think it would be cool to have a "canon" set of 4 player colors. Dragon has got to be an alt though.

>>alt colors
if they dont give me a Boggy alt color im killing myself

Who cares.
There are a million more worthy characters to be in Smash than the absolute dog shit they've revealed so far.
This DLC pass is going to be a total shitshow.
Not that it matters since Ultimate is the worst game in the series.
Imagine liking this game.

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I also noticed that this thread was dyeing and needed some actual conversation going on.

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No

how the fuck is ultimate worse than smash 64

Smash 64 sucks in retrospect but it's only because it aged poorly. It was a product of its time and was good when it came out.
Ultimate is inexcusable because they've had 20 years to figure out how this shit is supposed to work and instead they keep adding stuff to make the game slightly more unplayable each time. Things like shittier online you have to pay for, short hop input buffers that eat your inputs and make you get the WRONG FUCKING ATTACK or no attack at all when you want one, removing trophies, having very few new characters in the base roster, and filling up the DLC with nothing but trash anime fuckboys and Banjo.
I will say Banjo is the first thing approaching a unique character but far from the most worthy addition. Since characters only get picked either for popularity or relevance, we can't have a repeat of the Melee days where they would add cool and outlandish new characters like Mr. Game and Watch.
Ayumi Tachibana, Takamaru and Lip were considered for inclusion in Melee at one point. Imagine the world we'd be living in today if they got in Melee. Their franchises would see western ports, sequels, reboots. Instead Sakurai just shits on our plate with more samey characters that are only added in to sell upcoming Switch games.

There will not be Rare content besides Banjo in the DLC. This is not a celebration of Rare, it is strictly and only a celebration of Banjo-Kazooie.

You're trying too hard.

Yikes.

Schizo.

>Smash 64 sucks in retrospect but it's only because it aged poorly. It was a product of its time and was good when it came out.
True, I guess it's hard to compare since Ultimate can't be viewed through the lens of time for a while. I don't know how fair it is to put all the blame on Sakurai for Ultimate's flaws though. How much control over Smash does he have in comparison to the days of Melee or even Brawl? I get the feeling that he gets a lot of pressure from multiple big parties to make Smash features that benefit them (e.g. Nintendo's awful online and legal battles over characters)

I feel like Nintendo has next to no control over him because he says some stuff a PR team absolutely wouldn't let him get away with. Like when the fighter pass was announced, he asked people not to buy it if they were unsure.

He's more than proven himself. He helped create one of Nintendo's most iconic franchises. He and Iwata even went through with it after being told not to pursue it. It also helps that he was practically best friends with the last president.

Fuck Banjoke. He never deserved to be in Smash, and you faggots that support this for some reason need to get your heads checked.
He's not returning next game either.

Kill yourself UBC

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Steve's not in.

>not even in the game yet
>already looking forward to him being cut
There may be a time when Banjo is no longer in Smash, but there'll never be a time he stops living rent free in your head.

Oh look, its UBC-chan. Banjo-kazooie is still in and there is nothing you can do about it.

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more so related to ver 5.0 in general but
please sakurai
bring sandbag back to his home

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>Sakurai is losing his mind and literally puting any character he wants in the game now
>Ridley
>K. Rool
>Simon Belmont
>Now Banjo-Kazooie

I mean fuck it at this point. Everything is on the table. We got as close to Goku as we'll ever get, we got a fucking piranha plant to trigger the hat goombas. Steve is still seething. What could possibly come out that would be as hype as these so far?

Doom Guy

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Me too

Steve

at this point, he could just pull another cloud strife out of his ass by putting crash bandicoot in the fucking game

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Victory jingle- Take your pick of:
> Honeycomb completion jingle
> World completed jingle
Spiral Mountain:
> I literally can't even guess, any amount would be a blessing
Character cameos:
> Mumbo, Tooty as a missing poster, assorted Jinjos, Bottles suspiciously absent, L.O.G. if they want to start a riot
Spirits- See above, as well as:
> Gruntilda, evolves into undead look and a separate one for skull-in-a-jar
> Humba Wumba
> Assorted collectibles and/or pads???
Alt colors:
> Some Banjo, some general Rare
> Bottles palette
> Grunty palette
> Chunky Kong palette
> Conker palette
> Dragon Kazooie alt?
Remaining moveset:
> I feel like it's mostly going to be swinging Kazooie around at this point, not to say they're not going to put a ton of heart into it

Shut up, Egghead. Go back to shoving tiny animals into your dumb robots.

wouldn't Sir Dan be more accurate?

>no clue for a third
How about:
>Kazooie pecks the back of Banjo's head and giggles to herself while Banjo says "Owww!" and rubs the back of his head
>she tries to do it again, but Banjo grabs her neck and it freezes on something similar to this pose

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sir dan would be cool, but i feel like crash would be the ultimate finger to sony's smash rip-off

i believe this since joker's inclusion didn't include smt or etrian odyssey as well as hero's inclusion not including any square stuff

online leaderboards too. i also hope they endless, timed, and 10-man mob smash