WWWHHHHHYYYYYYYYY

Why would they do this? To lower development costs? I hope JRPG loving weebs don't eat this shit up. Turn based JRPGs are fucking shit. Fuck this. I'm not buying this, and nor should you.

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>they didn't make the same game for the 20th time
how surprising

Yes, the series is getting stale, but this is not fucking Yakuza. They shouldn't even call it that.

kys

Holy shit, nice. Maybe I'll finally play one of these

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Yeah fuck this garbage, if I wanted to play a JRPG i'd play one of the millions already out there.

>its not yakuza
>it has every single thing that makes a yakuza title yakuza except for the combat that can be switched out
no, you wanted more of the same fucking slop served with a new main character because you can't wait for 6 more games starring this guy set in kamurocho.

give it a fucking chance ffs

>real time combat is a pretty sizeable part of the game
No. I'm not giving it a chance. I don't play Yakuza because I want to play a turn based JRPG. I want to play an action game with life sim elements. This game is not that.

did you play any of the minigames at all bro? the combat was hardly interesting compared to all the shit you could do in-game
in combat i found looking for new heat actions to be the most enjoyable part of the experience as opposed to knocking a guy down and waiting for his invincibility frames to fade so i could do the same combo over again

that's fair, but your action game was a weak as shit action game considering fights are won by mashing square several times, then triangle, then triangle again when you have enough meter
play Tales of if you want action like Yakuza that isn't totally braindead

and i forgot to mention those heat actions (the most enjoyable part of combat) can easily be recreated in a turn-based setting

GO OUTSIDE YOU FUCKING BUM

I think you guys are overeacting, from what it reads it seems it will be the same combat of always with a rpg gimmick tacked on.

Doubt it'll be THAT different.

Yakuza's combat is kind of mediocre anyways. I don't see how turn-based is better but it's still going to be yakuza

Pretty Based no more shitty dragon engine ragdoll combat

What's with this dude's hair?
He part negro or something?

Alright, then fuck off. I'll play it on your behalf.

I never thought Yakuza's combat was the best, but I find it serviceable. I have tried Tales before and I don't like it thanks. I'll play DMC or something if I want pure action, but Yakuza having real time combat was part of the fun for me.

I thought the whole reason to shelve kiryu was basically a soft reboot. Why is it surprising that they're changing things up?

I think it's supposed to be thick unwashed hobo hair since he was in jail.

Now we know wich one is the real succesor

JUDGEMENT CHADS RISE UP!

I guess the main development team is just bored and wants to branch out? They've been rehashing the same formula for how many games, now?
They'll probably keep the gameplay going with spinoffs like the Fist of the North star and Judgment games.

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Here's your Yakuza gameplay bro.

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Oh, it's April Fools.
Kinda funny.

No, for some bizarre reason they revealed the trailer on april fools but now confirm it was actualy real and not a joke.

Nips are just autistic like that.

*Survives a gunshot to the head*

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It's not actually april fools. They were just foolish enough to release footage on april fools

they're turning it into an even bigger movie game lmao

Can't wait for them to rehash the 'Identical brother plot twist' to justify his existence

Didn't even think of this.

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That honestly doesn't look bad

oldboy

I don't know, they obligatory sweaty shirtless pumped boss fights will lose a lot of it's luster if after a cool coreography and madman screams they just stand still in front of each other.

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They also said they don't mind going back if it's shit and no one likes it so who cares. One game will be different.

God damn you're right

Kind of weird they did it with the next REAL YAKUZA tm instead of something like Judgement, you'd think they would try this in a spinoff. At least it's bold.

I'll give it a chance.

These are your 4 party members, say something nice about them

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They look like generic side/mob characters from previous games except for the blue guy.

i'm kinda digging that rolled sleeves look on Ichiban

Cool random npc that dont matter

>To lower development costs?
wut? visually, the game already looks better than past yakuza games.

did you not see the part where that guy eats that piece of bread?

>Yea Forums is unironically defending this slow garbage
Im done with video games zoomers are retarded

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So it's not like a classic rpg and more like those tails of games?

>hates slow
>complains about zoomers

imagine the ryona hehe

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I hope the turn based combat is decent.

How does this look like tales of you moron? Are you blind?

I can’t be the only one who realized that this series was already a JRPG except with a shallow beatemup combat system in which the most interesting parts were scripted finishers that are effectively limit breaks, right?

It's a funny paradox. Your old RPGs, FPS games, all that were so much infinitely fucking faster than modern iterations. A battle in a Wizardry or Ultima game is the length of a single turn in a modern RPG.

>Yakuza now has gameplay
I'm already interested.

Dragon Quest is such a shit franchise and im tired of it influencing and ruining other franchise.

Turned based trash needs to die.

ahah, hey Bomba! this baka looks just like you *chugs on coca cola hyped as heck*

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE DEVS TRY NEW THINGS I DONT WANT THEM TO MAKE WHAT THEY WANT, I WANT THEM TO MAKE WHAT SELLS

I thought you niggers were already boycotting the series because it fell to "SJW censorship" anyways.

>turn based
>gameplay

yeah and alot of other games do this, nothing is wrong with it. If they want to change something then they should do the rockstar GTA/RDR approach that every major developer does; add new stuff on the frame of the game to make it feel new. New towns/areas, bigger maps, cars, new mechanics, etc to add a new breath into the game. Changing the game's core is garbage. Especially in an ancient, mature franchise like this one that has well defined facade and gameplay.

>Why would they do this?
Creative burn out. They've been working on the same type of game for years, so they're now doing a one off based off of some crazy ideas they came up with for April Fools. They'll go back to status quo for 8, they just want to try something else for one title.
Worst case there's a new spinoff turn-based series if the game sells alright.

>All these action RPG casuals seething
HOES MAD

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Yakuza was always a jrpg lmao

I don't like turn based games tho, change it back.

Hey, I might actually check this series out now that they finally added gameplay.

What? He's alive?

>New settings
Awesome.
>new cast
Awesome
>turn-based combat
Into the trash it goes. Yakuza combat has been painfully stale and formulaic for ages, but this is not the way to fix it.

>turn based
>gameplay

This actually really good

Because turn based combat is better for future release on a streaming platform.

Yakuza games have always been a bit self ironic. This turn based comabt "gimmick" is funny, imo.

They will after this one. This is them basically going "We want to make something different for one single game"
So half the team has gone over to Sakura Taisen where they make something different thematically and the other half are working on something in a different genre.
After this they'll go right back to the normal playstyle regardless of this game succeeding or flopping. Hence the "If people don't buy this game we'll go back", the game is literally being made FOR THEMSELVES.
They hope people will enjoy it but know this is them being selfish.
Just think of it like this.
Let them do this little RPG, stretch their creative muscles a little, then after that you'll get one of the best Yakuza games you could imagine after they're all rejuvenated and ready to go another round.

Generic turn-based garbage is the very opposite of "new things". We've all wasted our time waiting for turns a million times before. Turn-based is never good unless the game is a proper SRPG.

Ignore the faggot causing shit about "YOU HATE IT CAUSE IT'S NEW" and read .
This is what is happening.

Did they have to make it a mainline entry? Dead Souls was similarly "let's just do something weird for the fuck of it" and nobody minded that it was a bit shit, because it was just a spinoff.

It's always been a JRPG from the beginning just with beat-em-up random battles. It's just going the whole way now.

I can't not see Anno when I see Ken Yasuda

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imagine the ryona (male)

so rather than improving the melee combat system, they are throwing the whole thing away? and you think that's fine?

this is like the 7th game in the series, people have gotten used to the combat and it now has a fanbase despite it's flaws, you can't just change the gameplay core and expect it to be fine
imagine if starcraft suddenly turned into a turn based 4x game, and not as a spinoff but instead as a mainline sequel for the series, people would go absolutely apeshit

you can't just change the gameplay genre and expect everyone to deal with it, more likely is that the fans who you have been relying on for years suddenly don't buy the game at all

As someone who loves both JRPGs and Yakuza, I have seriously mixed feelings. I think it could turn out to be really cool, but it won't have that fast paced button mashing feel of a yakuza game, which could really kill it.

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>those replies
half of them are women
lol

>turn based combat where the fighters are constantly moving around the battlefield
>incentivizes the player to hold onto ready party members to line up better shots and set up other members by moving enemies around instead of just giving them the most beneficial command for the immediate moment
>characters aren't just running up to enemies and then jumping back to where they started
so fights feel more fluid
>It's a plain modern day RPG instead of a fantasy or scifi
Kinda hoping it really is another april fool's day joke turned real, 'cause if the game plays like that they might make turn based RPGs look appealing again.

>A battle in a Wizardry or Ultima game is the length of a single turn in a modern RPG.

>A battle in a Wizardry or Ultima.
>length of a single turn in a modern RPG.
How can you be this wrong about this many things?

I'm of the belief they should have added Gaiden to the title so it's clearly a spinoff but I think it's one of two possibilities(or a mix of both)
>1. They got too caught up in the April Fools joke and realized "Hey this is actually fucking neat, let's make the new game this" before remembering that they said it was a mainline title
>2. They had the next mainline lined up before hand and had it all announced but during development they ended up hitting way too many roadblocks too regularly, leading to the splitting of the dev team and them deciding they'll be taking a split and doing something new.
Japan isn't very suit heavy like the west is and many publishers give directors a lot of freedom.
I feel the backlash will make them at least add a spinoff subtitle to the game instead of keeping it as a mainline but they're doing this to relieve some stress so the gameplay is set in stone.

Looks great. Combat has become pretty tedious in the other games so I'm glad they are trying something different

I love turn based rpgs and i'm still pissed off by the change. What the actual fuck are they smoking?

What's ironic is that actual JRPGs switched to real-time combat years ago.

No, I stand by it. Discounting VII's retarded hands-off system, even the slowest Ultima games were done with encounters in 10-15 seconds, and most of those dungeon crawlers didn't even have attack animations.

Go back to crying about Cyberpunk having daylight you fucking tranny faggot. Fuck you. You're lucky I don't fuckin' snap all your fingers and do the board a god damn favor, bitch.

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Yep. Gonna skip this one. They're free to try something new. I'm free to ignore this release.

>5 minutes for one battle
>not tedious
Ok retard

Gonna wait for the better franchise judgement 2

Didn't ask, fuck you.

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Mob battles in most JRPGs are about ending them in 1 turn, which should take about 10 seconds if you don't have arthritic fingers.

>Drawn out fight to show it off
>Representative of the average encounter
Ok retard

Seethe more.

I can't believe there are people on Yea Forums who actually think Yakuza's story is good. Granted the main story will be better without Kiryu as the main character (though the sidequests will probably suffer without him as the straight man) but the story has always been fucking gibberish, unless you think fucking 3 plot twists in the third act every single time is good writing.

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but i like turn-based rpgs

Your faggotry aside, I can tell you why - because going forward Judgement is the 3d action game and it's clear they don't want to cannibalize sales from their own series, so to support Judgement they'll use Yakuza to experiment with.

I thought it was gonna be VP gameplay with the party and prominent buttons
they probably could've pulled it off with extra stuff on it

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>series is actually becoming somewhat popular in the west
>MAKE IT TURN BASED GAIJINS WILL LOVE IT
>meanwhile god tier jrpgs like DQ11 bomb in the west
>even the japanese who love turn based rpgs are mad at the sudden change
This is going to be a disaster unless they somehow make a god tier game.

>I want to play an action game with life sim elements.
These games have never had life sim elements. Going to play sub-mobile phone game-tier pool or whatever the fuck does not make it a life sim.

It's good melodrama. It borrows from Japanese V-cinema, which is pretty similarly overblown and clumsy.

Kiryu's story really should have ended when he retired to run an Orphanage, and his reappearance nothing more than a cameo to introduce a new protagonist. He could have been been a sensei NPC you learn moves from or somethin, and in one really hype Sequence he joins you in a fucking fight or you get to fight him as a secret special super hard boss

Not really, they're just using their waifus as profile pictures.

Most of the Yakuza fanbase is women, it's been a franchise made primarily for women since 3 or 4 onwards or some shit

They've been improving the combat for more than a decade now. I know you were just a kid when Yakuza 2 came out but it's still among the best in the series when it comes to combat. I've played every single game in this damn series including the shit PSP games and the good samurai games, the series has been stuck in limbo when it comes to combat and story.
Now this turn-based stuff could be good, probably will be mediocre since they can't do anything good on their first try, but it doesn't matter since this isn't Kiryu's story and it's also the last Yakuza game for this gen until the next game is a dual-release for current and next. The next game is going to back to formula so let them experiment and see if it's fun.

I'm not neccesarily doubting that it's going to be turn based but that video was so obviously a mockup, not real gameplay. And with that 8-bit parody music, come the fuck on. It is an obvious joke. Even if it turns out to be turn based it will be NOTHING like that obvious joke video. You silly sods.

>his reappearance nothing more than a cameo to introduce a new protagonist
When was Ichiban introduced in 6? I agree that 6 had nothing to do with Kiryu or the previous games but still.

Yakuza combat is horrible. Done correctly this could be rad.

thats what they wanted you to think at first but its pretty much confirmed now that it was real and not a joke.

Your asspain has convinced me to get into the series with this game.

stop licking boots

Take a bath hippy.

do you have adhd

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Please stop posting

It would be good melodrama, if it had constant payoff and didn't keep restoring the status quo.

Those old Japanese yakuza movies were just as tonally torn between hyper-drama and sappiness, but they certainly didn't shy away from just murdering half the cast to up the stakes.

Imagine playing this garbage ass turn based dogshit for 40+ hours and not wanting to end your life from the boredom. This would have been cool as a side mini game, but they fucked it all up. I can’t see why some of you fags are excited to play this boring, slow and basic ass rpg with no style or substance.

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>sega is rusing everyone again
>the rpg part is just a mini game similar to kiwamis clan creator mini game

I meant that's what SHOULD have happened. 3 should have been the last game he was protagonist or even a playable character, if not 2.

Bullshit. It's aimed at men. The marketing is male focused. Hence all the cross-promotion with porn companies in 0 and 6. Sure, girls like it, but girls like COD, too.

Kiryu's VA talked about how during press events and other fan stuff, the audience is usually entirely composed of women and body-builders.

post body

someone sounds insecure in their masculinity

Finally a good entry in the series

See, this is why we gatekeep. Newfags are all saying "lol combat doesn't matter bro Yakuza is good because of the minigames bro". I can't believe Yakuza is fucking dead

>is usually entirely composed of women and body-builders
This sounds like a scene out of Danberu

And then he said that it's because japanese female fans are more active and participate in more events than guys.

>Yakuza finally gets good combat
>Yea Forums is angry about it and wants mindless cinematic garbage back
Damn, based Yakuza exposed every tasteless "action" nigger in here.

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>Why yes, I do understand the difference between blindly hating authority and blindly liking it. How could you tell?

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Thats not it. I am perfectly happy with liking girly things too. It's just not a big game among girls in Japan. I know some women who play games here, and few of them like RgG. Almost all guys I speak to enjoy RgG though.

Does that somehow disprove the point that there are still a decent number of female fans?

>but I find it serviceable
Good, than you should welcome something fresh.

>I can't believe Yakuza is fucking dead
They'll use the resurrection spell after this game comes out. Don't worry about it.
I'm not saying defend it or buy it, just don't think this is a permanent change and the series is dead forever.

How is the marketing male-focused, it's focused on showing off what j-drama actors they've secured?

They've had over half a dozen games to improve the melee system though, how long are yakuzacucks willing to wait exactly?

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Turn based JRPG combat is anything but fresh.

Same reason why Snoy turned GoW into TLoU, and why every other western game is a shooter or open-world: they want their relative country's normie-bux.

It's not a newfag thing you dense fuck, Japan got bored of this franchise years ago judging by sales. Yakuza 1 hit over 1 million sales, Zero which is the only one you've probably played needed China's help to even hit half that much.

It's aimed at men and they stick to developing it for men but women end up being a pretty large part of the audience compared to usual.
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Funny how the one western event they did just had a bunch of overweight neckbeards and a few suicidal women attend

Remember when they tried to make Dynasty Warriors into open world rpg?

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But it's not just drama pretty boys, it's V-cinema tough guys, comedians and legit actors too. The celebrities have wide appeal.

Again, porno mini games and product placement for beer and whiskey is definitely aimed at men.

I guess it's because the story is basically a soap opera and it features passionate men who take their shirts off.

the execution was terrible though. remember when ubisoft wanted to turn assassin's creed into a open world rpg? they kinda pulled it off.

>Sanic gets repeatedly fucked/castrated
>Atlus will probably be more dating-sims after P5
>now this shit with Yakuza

Great job SEGA. Probably better off going the Pachinko-route like Konami did at this rate.

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Aside from Yakuza, Nagoshi has a good track record with games he's worked on at least
Whereas Koei/Omega Force are just pretty incompetent

The dumbest part is that they had already done Bladestorm, and that's waaaay closer to open world and didn't suck.

Nips think manly things are gay because they're insecure about their masculinity

You'll get an action spin off here and there but the core series will be turn based for at least two decades from now on.

>they kinda pulled it off.
By killing everything else about the series. Hell, t he Assassins and Templars aren't even Assassins or Templars anymore, the Hidden Blade is a toothpick that can't even kill people anymore without heavy investment, and they've basically lost any identity the brand had. Compare Odyssey to even Syndicate and it's such a ridiculous difference it may as well be a different brand entirely.

Reminder the reason this is happening is because Yakuza 6 barely sold 200k copies in japan on ps4, same amount in the west.
Last game in the numbered series was ultra niche title for its budget. Its fucking dead.

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hypermasculinity is seen as gay by everyone except incels

probably because of your daughteru getting teen pregnanted

>we're completely ready to deal with this game bombing and going back to making more of the same
More power to 'em then.

So they decided to just burn it to the ground, great.

Lets talk about how you view masculinity problematic. And not dodge around the subject.

There are literally 10 other titles in the series with the same gameplay and setting. I don't understand why so many people are asshurt with them finally making a change for once, especially when they explicitly stated they'll go back to action if they feel it doesn't work or fans don't like it.

>i play Yakuza for the battle mechanics

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yeah because the game was fucking awful. Both gameplay and storywise, that doesn't mean you should change the genre of the game
>hypermasculinity is seen as gay by gamers
FTFY

Damn, that's fucking rough. I'm buying 7 though, my first in the series I will not pirate. That action comvat was pure cancer and it was a genius decision to throw it in the trash forever.

I think getting chinked was the bigger problem.

user, how long have you even played this series? The Yakuza series is equivalent to Call of Duty in how much it gets put out.

absolutely agree that it's not assassins creed anymore. origins and odyssey are witcher-lite with microtransaction bullshit added in which i personally bypassed with cheat engine. my point was that they managed to pull off the genre change by making somewhat decent games, not a dumpster fire like DW9.

let's talk about how you want to engage in feminine vanity and suck other people's dicks

why not just keep the same game engine as the last game and write a new scenario and give a couple of extra features?
that's got to be less or the same development cost than making a bunch of new animations for turn based attacks, balancing it, writing an overworld mode...

building something new is more costly than just adding to what you already have.

yes and turning it turn based will surely make it sell like hotcakes in japan, just look at dragon quest
>japanese twitter is literally shitting on the announcement
oops

And in next few years you will be crying why them pesky entitled incel gamers didn't bought your precious re-imagining of the popular series.
I don't even want to defend yakuza, i myself got burned out of its repetitiveness, but combat they are replacing older action system with doesn't look good.

God I hate turn based
Its always the same static unchanging Dragon Quest clone shit, how intresting
At least it's not high fantasy or highschool shit or the combination of the both

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fuck off autist no one cares about you or your faggot opinions

My point was more on the lines of "They did the genre change but ended up turning it into a different series entirely". It's not that it can't work successfully if you make a good game, it's more that you might as well have created a new series if you're going to go this drastic in your change. Hopefully it ends up well with 7, I just think it's a really odd move not to make Judgment use this combat and leave 7 with the original combat.

Played through Ultima 3 and 4, the battle theme is like 10 seconds long in those games yet I almost never hear it loop. No random encounters too which is great.
Tried the first Wizardry, it's fucking brutal, never made it far. The combat is way faster than any of the classic console JRPGs since there's literally zero animations and you can mash through the text.
Old computer rpgs had fast combat because they literally went as fast as you wanted, there were little to no animations to wait through and no menues to select commands from.

You faggots are retarded if you dont think that shit was heavily scripted

What THE FUCK is a Yakuza?

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But the Yakuza in general is chink'd and gook'd and burakumin'd.

>youtube.com/watch?v=K7R_xQUiZvg kicks in
>motherfucking kuze charges at you with a fucking motorcycle
>the battle is about to hit the climax
>shit gets real
>heat max
>kuze stops
>it's not his turn
>kiryu pulls up the menu
>selects fist
>it's a hit 949 damage
>kuze selects pipe
>it's a critical 40003 damage
>HOLY SHIT
>40/40 reinvented the jrpg genre - famitsu

Former Final Fantasy fan here. I feel your pain. I've been feeling it for years now. I do not wish this hell on any franchise, or their fans. I hope for your sake this is just some stupid joke, or at worst a one time thing.

You don't deserve this, yakuzabros.

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Why couldn't they get around to finally making the combat more responsive and dynamic, making the open world more immersive, and changing up the level design so there's actual variety? Judgment did some cool things with the wall-jumping and Mortal Wounds. I was hoping they'd expand on all that even further in the next Yakuza. They could've made heat actions more dynamic somehow, or let you have free control of the camera during the animation so it feels seamless. Triggering a heat action still has a noticeable delay in the Dragon Engine games; they could've addressed that too. There are so many potential ways to polish and evolve the formula, but instead they're spending their budget on an all-new genre.

At least they bothered making a new city this time. I don't mind turn-based JRPGs, so I'll still play it, but it pisses me off knowing Yakuza could be so much better. If the next action game after this is hardly any better than Judgment, I'm finally done with the series.

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Any full videos of this?

The difference is that action-based FF is selling gangbusters and will continue to sell. Meanwhile, RGG7 is going to bomb.

They didn't. They called it Yakuza 7.

Regardless it's shit. It's all shit and a blatant betrayal to the fans.

>hypermasculinity is seen as gay by twink faggots who needed to feel better about not being real men
Most Asian men just happen to fall into this category.

>blatant betrayal to fans
You're saying that as if the series is now going to become turn-based or that RGG is saying that they're doing to spite fans.

Correct.

Yea Forums's shitposting was answered, can't argue anymore that you'll be playing the same game for the 7th time.

Most FF fans clearly don't think so, considering XV and now VIIR will sell numbers most FF mainlines couldn't even dream about.

>They called it Yakuza 7
Yeah but not really

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Yea Forums hates change as much as it hates consistency

It's not called Yakuza 7 in the west btw. It's called Yakuza: Like a Dragon

I honestly can't tell how many of these people came just from 0 and act like they've been fans since the beginning. Everyone knows that the series is stagnating, why is one experiment so bad?

I bought the same game ten times over, and I even buy the remasters too. That's at least 15 near-identical Yakuza games that I've bought. I know I'm not alone, this is what most Yakuza fans have done. And we were happy to do this for another 15 games. If it's not broken don't fix it. My biggest fears have come true: CHANGE has come to the Yakuza series.

This

Absolutely based

i hope it becomes stylish jrpgs and in yakuza 8 all of the combat consists of ballet

DUDE why didn't they just rehash Judgement which rehashed Yakuza 6 which rehashed Kiwami 2 which rehashed Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise which rehashed Kiwami 1 which rehashed Yakuza 0 which rehashed Yakuza Ishin which rehashed Yakuza 5 which rehashed Yakuza 4 which rehashed Yakuza 3 which rehashed Yakuza Kensan which rehashed Yakuza 2 which rehashed Yakuza 1. IT'S NOT FAIR!

based.
the games being assetflips were their greatest strength, not weakness

yeah just like Persona 5 flopped oh wait

Unironically this.

It says 7 right fucking there

This, Yakuza fans like Yakuza because it's the same game but a little different every time. Now not only Kiryu is gone but the gameplay is different too.

The series was obviously stagnant in many ways and stuff like the new setting, cast, and presumably the mood are the right steps forward. But literally nobody was asking for shitty JRPG combat.

shut up fuckface

people didn't buy persona 5 for the amazing turn based gameplay.

Personafags don't give a fuck about the combat, they buy it for the waifu sim part and garish colours. Yakuza is not a waifu simulator.

>The series was obviously stagnant
No it wasn't, shut the fuck up. Look at how angry everyone is. We wanted more of the same.

And yet nobody was buying the games either, every game this gen has been a borderline flop. And what makes turn based so bad anyway? Is it because it's a dated form of combat or is it because it's just too slow for people nowadays? Would people rather see an XCOM style of turn-based or an Active time battle instead?

There are 91 posters in this thread, and half of them are making fun of you.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

>we wanted more of the same
I'm willing to bet the people asking for more of the same started with Yakuza this gen and didn't play through what felt like the same combat 8 times.

>The only thing I was genuinely hyped for
>It's worst than I could ever dream of
This shit is horrible, man

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Kind of hope this does kill the franchise, the games have been getting worse and the fanbase on here has been shit ever since 0. Nothing of value will be lost, I can just play Ishin again.

Don't reply to me loser, or anyone else in this thread.

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You mean 90 justifiably angry Yakuza fans and one samefagging shitposter who is pretending change is a good thing or that the games were ""stagnant""

This is what happens when you take turn based battles out of jrpgs faggots, im glad this happened.

So now you understand how does it feel when turn based franchises become action real time ones.
Serves you right.

Did Ishin or Kenzan get confirmed for worldwide releases?

I've been on Yea Forums lately because I want to play a game, I regularly don't come here anymore. Maybe once every few months.

This is such a bad place for your brain, if you have depression, this is only making it worse.

The frame of every conversation is like someone about to blow up a fucking building, everyone is so irrational and angry.

>turning a beat em up into turn based
It's a total 180 turn. I'd be fine if they turned it into an action rpg instead. Just add levels, more stats, equipment that actually matters etc. This is coming from a guy who actually likes turn based rpgs. It just won't fit yakuza.

I feel like I heard something about Ishin.

Dude press x to win!!!
Kill yourself retard. Action games are shit. It’s called turn BASED for a reason

>what makes turn based so bad anyway
Nothing, turn based combat is fine. Suddenly changing the gameplay style of the series for no reason is not fine. I could understand if it was a spin-off but this is the next mainline game.

Yakuza has been stale as fuck since Yakuza 5. Musoushit has more variation than Yakuza sequels now.
How many fucking times can you play the exact same game of darts or karaoke in the same damn location?

Damn man I bet you have very high IQ since you love that super fancy turn based stuff

They keep saying they're aware people want it, but no official announcement

God that would be horrible if they added another form of a grind to the game. Actually since the game is turn-based, there'll will probably be an emphasis on leveling and gear too anyway.

Pre-ordered already :^)

Everything looks great except that fucking hair

levels are confirmed in. check the gameplay footage.

yet, give it time

You're a dumb piece of shit if you preorder anything, especially this early

They mentioned it's "under consideration" it will get localized and that it's hard to do it because it's so Japanese. Basically the same lines they've been giving since 0's survey.
Kenzan had the producers saying they wanted to Kiwami it and bring it to the west since we never got it, but that's about it on that front.

>they realized how shit the Dragon Engine is and how they can't improve on it's combat system at all
>Let's keep the engine but just change the gameplay, that'll work!
Fuck what this series has become. I miss the golden age of 5/Ishin/0.

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I would hope that they just go with the enemies scale with your level along with bosses and not go with a huge powercreep if you walk into the wrong alley.

I thought the old excuse for Kenzan was that it was too much work because a lot of the Japanese used in it is archaic? Didn't it come with a glossary for modern Japanese speakers or something?

>yakuzas official tripfag spokesperson is a pedophile
Of course

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I actually liked yakuza's action combat. Well, I prefer it more than turn based.
I think I'll skip on this one.

>whole game is JRPG
>beat the final boss
>he gets back up
>classic health bar fills up in the top left and the final fight is in the classic style

post
>yfw Ishin never because of this

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>Anyone who wants to fuck a 19 year old chick is a pedo
lmao

From what I remember of people here who know Japanese their complaint was that both Kenzan and Ishin use way too much modern Japanese, not too much old Japanese. Plus on both games you have not only a dictionary you can pull up at any time, but you also have a feature (Enabled by default in Kenzan, you have to manually enable it in Ishin) where it highlights terms you may not know and you can press triangle to get a definition/explanation about that terms. It's foolproof even if you don't know what the subject is so them using that excuse for not localizing it would be really disingenuous.

>white
>blue
>red
>green

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Ishin and Kenzan had pretty much the worse chances when it comes to translations.

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>literally "We want the Persona audience"

those do sell many more units than yakuza

it's weird seeing little spurts of lucid self-awareness like this on Yea Forums every now and again

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>announce that Yakuza is now a multiplatform series
>the very next game is a turn based rpg
didjurikeit

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>WWWHHHHHYYYYYYYYY
>Why would they do this?
Because they have Judgement 2, Kenzan & Ishin remakes and a new Yakuza set in samurai era incoming for their action games.

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>a new Yakuza set in samurai era
First I'm hearing about this. Sounds great.

I actually think Ishin's chances have improved because of this. After they see reactions to the turn based switch, they might shit their pants and say "nonono wait guys! You want that classic combat? Here's localized Ishin! Just try the new game too please!"

>Ishin remake.
Why does everyone keep thinking this would even happen? Does 0 need one? Does Kiwami 1 need one?

While this sucks for me personally, I'm sure there's people out there who will like it.
And it's made up for by that Sakura Taisen game apparently being an action RPG now? I was interested when I heard about that since steampunk Japanese mecha sound cool, but turned off since it's apparently traditionally a turn based/SRPG. Definitely interested in it now though, I'll for sure take mecha over Yakuza.

Why didn't they just make a new IP?
This is retarded.

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>imagine if starcraft suddenly turned into a turn based 4x game
I'd love it

>One question asked whether RGG Studio has plans for more “Kiwami” style remakes, to which he responded:
>Personally, Yakuza: Kenzan is quite suitable to get a ‘Kiwami’ makeover. Kenzan was the first Yakuza game on the PlayStation 3, and only released in Japan. A lot of Western players mentioned that they want to play this game in English, and Asian players also want the game to release in Chinese. And because Kenzan was an early PS3 game, if it were to receive a simple HD remaster it would feel like it’s missing something, so in my opinion a ‘Kiwami’ version would be better.
>thesixthaxis.com/2019/06/25/new-yakuza-game-ishin-kenzan-english-ps4-kiwami-remake/

They done fucked up. Yakuza is meant to be immersive, there's a FPS mode for fucks sake. You don't shove a turn based system into a game that's trying to sell you on immersion.

It honestly can't be worse than the current gameplay style

Yeah, Kenzan Kiwami, not Ishin Kiwami. People seem to think both games need one when Ishin was the basis for several of the things you see in 0 and 5 was the basis for Ishin. It's far too recent. Kenzan Kiwami makes sense but Ishin doesn't whatsoever.

Could be good if it's done well. The April fool's thing was cool.
But now I remember why I stopped browsing Yakuza threads.

If they do Kenzan, they will probably follow up with Ishin later.

It's gonna be good. Everygame that makes Yea Forumsolcels seeth it's always good.

Keep seething retards, this is why you are not in the vidya industry, no one likes your ideas

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Mr retard developer, where would you like to try a completely new genre for the series
>in a high budget spinoff with an entire new cast
>or in a numbered title of the main franchise

Why the fuck didn't they do this for Judgment, it was a perfect opportunity to try something new without damaging the series.

This. Let's be honest here, Dragon engine was what killed this series. Even the apologists know this, even though they'd never admit it.

It's whatever they want it to be since they're the creators of the game, you know?
Maybe the game will not have a little bit more depth than a puddle

>Why would they do this? To lower development costs?
Because they need the action guys to work on VF6

So after all this waiting, Shin isn't even a mainline game? What a fucking waste

Japanese title. I bet they change it for the west. Just like judge eyes.

Would you give a chance to a turn based DMC or Nier?

This looks awful what the fuck are you retards talking about? By the way this is the mobile game stuff the mobile game stuff they were doing.

>this is now proof of pedophilia
people are getting weirder and weirder every day

>I bet they change it for the west
gematsu.com/2019/08/yakuza-7-titled-yakuza-like-a-dragon-in-the-west

How is it not a mainline title? It's been renamed from Shin to 7.

This would be absolutely based.

Oh so it's going to be good for once?

It doesn't even look like a good turn based combat.

>we want the Persona 5 audience
Jokes on them, Personafags don't play games that have Japanese people that don't look like anime characters. They'd drop it as soon as they saw the first pair of slanted eyes.

Yes

Thats cool. They should've done the thing resident evil 7 did. Call it Like a Dragon: Yakuza for Japan and Yakuza: Like a Dragon for the west.

If DMC had yearly instalments like Yakuza I wouldn't mind one of them being turn based. Might be an interesting change.
Nier's never had good gameplay so I'd give zero fucks.

For Japan

It's not the same genre as the other mainline games. It's a larger deviation than even Dead Souls, an actual spin-off, was

Sega in the west seems to have gotten the clue that maybe this shouldn't be lumped in the main series numbering.

The yakuza devs don't even know how to make video games. I'm not even surprise they went with something as stupid as this.

Doesn't matter, it's still called 7 in Japan.

Still mainline, just like Monster Hunter World is Monster Hunter 5 despite being called World for a western audience, or how Metroid Prime is a mainline Metroid game.

>instead of improving a stagnant series they just make it shit
Based

They've been ""improving it"" or attempting to for more than a decade now, obviously didn't work.

They better fucking keep the action system in Judgment 2. In that case I won't be mad, Judgment will finally have a different identity and they will coexist nicely.

>it's still called 7 in Japan.
Yes, it's called that, that doesn't mean people can't object to the fact it plays nothing like the rest of the series. If someone asked you what the Yakuza series plays like how would you respond? Put it this way, if Dead Souls was called "Yakuza 5" would you accept that?

0 was good. 6 was shit because it's peak Kiryu and all he does is the Dragon style. They could've made the enemies a little more varied to compensate the multiple styles that the player has and mix it up to keep it fresh and could just limit item usage per battle ala Kingdom Hearts. But no, just make it into a much slower DQ clone because reasons. Fuck this shit I'm out. Hope 7 bombs and Judge Eyes took off.

shut it snoy boi you're gonna buy the game anyway, to support your devs that bend over to tranny controversy

What if he was? He's from Okinawa so it's not surprising. Doesn't change anything about the game.

We all know this shit is literally built off the skeleton of 6, why not just do both? Reskin a bunch of Kiryu and Majimas moves with the animations used in RPG mode and call it a day.

>Doesn't matter, it's still called 7 in Japan
You dont live in japan you fuckin fatass weeb.

Only melee turn based combat sounds fucking boring. I doubt yakuza will start casting magic out of nowhere.

Look like shit, even DQ11 has a much faster pace.

Pretty based.

>turn based Yakuza

interesting

Pretty turn based.

who the fuck enjoys the shitty BAM HAM combat of yakuza?

censoring actual transophobic stuff (not just random shit like OGAY) isn't SJW.

>if you have depression
You don't, nigger redditor

I really hope this is a joke

So is this actually real? I remember watching the april fools video and thinking I wish that was what they're actually going with

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Many of us do. We deal with it's flaws because at it's core fighting through a horde of pricks to kick shit out of their hard ass boss is electrifying. It's the 3D version of the old beat em up genre. That what we want, not turn based combat.

Actual transphobic stuff doesn't exist in games.

I can't tell who's more pathetic: the worms defending this or the faggots who just can't live without their shallow 3rd person combat they've seen for 12 games already.

At least it doesn't break the immersion. People play those games to immerse themselves in the setting and the story.

You should work for Squeenix, they'd love you.

Yes, it's actually real. No, people are not kidding.
ryu-ga-gotoku.com/seven/#battle
This is the official site.
twitter.com/game_watch/status/1166932295015518208
This is official gameplay.

Hopefully it ends up being fun. Seems like they're going a more comedic route with this one and Ichiban seems way more laid back than usual.

>the april fools thing was actual an insight into what Ichiban's game would be like
I'm not even mad.

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Well the important part is you found a way to feel superior to both

So if the action is toned down a bit now, does that mean it will run at a stable framerate on consoles?

for an april fools, there was too much work put into animations ,effects and menus there, I already suspected this, but expected to be a side-thing or maybe another game

How is this a joke? I think that RGS is more than able to know what shouldn't be in their game now

Wrong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But no, this has Sega higher management meddling written all over it. Their management are the most incompetent fucks ever.

Trans people are a joke. No one should cater to their mental illness.

It's turn based. That's not the 'same combat'.
This is clearly a manager somewhere not wanting to take away from judgement, so they're demanding that Yakuza change its combat.

>censoring actual transophobic stuff (not just random shit like OGAY) isn't SJW.

There's tons of media where men are seen as abusers, rapists, thieves, lets remove all of that from media because it's phobic.

No of course not because I have no doubt you're a fucking hypocrite. The reality is that you think the trans identity should be a protected class free from any parody or criticism. That's the tune of dictators and despots.

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What for you is transphobic for the majority of the world is common sense.

This is Sega, not Tecmo, though.
This is another company ran by a group of out of touch japanese executives who don't understand why people like their game.

Sounds more like some whacky idea the director really wanted to try out. Nigga this is the 7+th entry in this franchise

instead of replacing bad action combat with bad turn-based combat why not replace it with good turn based combat

At least make the menu & actions fast, snappy and stylish like p5
Holy shit

>>They will after this one. This is them basically going "We want to make something different for one single game"
Unless it sells a lot, and then it will become the norm.

new protag so an attempt at making a new gameplay style, it looks fine, people need to stop being bitches and pretending the combat in yakuza was deep or engrossing, this shit wasn't devil may cry, it was a repetitive brawler

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I'm actually excited for a yakuza game holy shit
the absolute balls on nagoshi
unironically can't wait

You underestimate how remarkably incompetent Sega management staff is in regards to existing IP. Every time one of their smaller development projects becomes remotely successful; Sega steps in to micromanage the fuck out of it and thus runs it into the ground.

Look up what happened to Sonic Team and why they became such a clusterfuck of a development studio: Executive meddling is a pasttime at Sega. Virtua Fighter had the same thing happen to it.

as opposed to what? the same beat em up gameplay where you pick up chairs and beat people? every yakuza is literally the same repetitive shit

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You guys are retards if you played Yakuza and told yourselves "You know what? I wish this were dragon quest!"

Sega of America/Europe were always the smart ones, while Sega of Japan are ran by out of touch bumbling retards who accidentally strike oil every once in a while.

>turn based
Nice.

>Yea Forums suddenly hates original yakuza because it's different now
Can't wait for DMC6 Tetris and don't fucking complain because every DMC game has the same shitty combat

I never said that, I just said that I'll see how it works out before I judge it, if you hate turn based shit I understand the anger, but if you are neutral on it, its a wait and see thing

This, remember that time they sabotaged their most successful western product because they were jelly as fuck?

thank God. I'm too lazy to mash button & dodge some shit. This is the reason why I'm hesitating to play this series

Whatever, if it works and it's fun, good.
If it doesn't you only have to wait a year tops for the new one anyways, considering how fast they've been making these until now.

>Mashing through button menus to end battles quickly
So different.

>Not making it stylish and fast enough like P5
Dropped

>Faggots in this thread defend this shit
I bet you motherfuckers defend Nuts and bolts or dirge of Cerberus too because "It's different so it's good!"

You know what's good? Paper Mario. That went from an action based platformer to an RPG style gameplay.
Sure, it wasn't Mario World 3, but it was still a departure from the normal series gameplay.

>NEW THING BAD

>OLD THING GOOD
retard

Only peabrains hate Nuts and Bolts.

I know Nagoshi had said DQ inspired him but to think that turn-based as only Dragon Quest is pretty stupid.

This.

Being trans isn't mental illness, and you're no one to tell who RGS shouldn't pander.

>There's tons of media where men are seen as abusers, rapists, thieves, lets remove all of that from media because it's phobic.
How is this sexist? There is many good men characters in the media, no way we can get a bad image from it, the only thing which would be bad for men are messages such as "men can't be victims of women".

>The reality is that you think the trans identity should be a protected class free from any parody or criticism
I don't, but as RGS recognized, the transophobic stuff added nothing beside shit humor.

What is common sense to you isn't to most people.

>a sequel shouldn't be a continuity of the former product
You are fucking retarded, corporate bootlicker.

>Literally likes dirge of cerberus
Opinion discarded.

Based Nagoshi showing Square Enix that turn-based game is not dead, I'm pretty sure how this is gonna go

>they release a demo
>they will heavily listen to feedback from non-haters (crazies who refuse to play turn-based)
>keeps tweeking until release

Right now I can see them speeding up the gameplay.

This
I’m seeing the “Reeeeee-ing” meanwhile I’m thinking
“Damn that actually looks really good”

Hell if there’s a silly option for a Mario and Luigi pre attack dance I’d be Sold day 1

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The Yakuza games have always absolute dogshit and the series deserves this fate. People with abysmal taste belong in your community.

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lmao they did this purely out of their own creative choice, the very exact opposite corporate bootlicking of "keep it same, keep it safe"

Why are you quoting me when I only mentioned Banjo instead

Woah, laddy. I never said I liked DIrge. THere have been no good games in the FF7 series other than FF7.
I'm just giving an example of when a game changed mechanics, specifically from action to RPG, and made a good game. It's not necessarily going to be bad, it'll very much depend on the direction. RPGs can be fun, otherwise people wouldn't buy them and they wouldn't be lucrative.
Judgement did well and used the Yakuza formula. It'll probably get another game soon with the same action focused combat.

Just port it to Switch like 3 of their top 10 games were turn based

Have sex

Oh sweety I'm so sorry for your mother for giving birth to a contrarian faggot like you

The option for you to try and use moves that require you to wait for your opponent to do something has always been there, you're the retards outing yourselves as the people who do nothing but mash square and then saying "WHY IS THE COMBAT SO GENERIC >:(((((". It's like going into Tekken, never learning basics or strings and all you do is randomly press bullshit to then complain that the game sucks because the combat is too mediocre as you can only press a bunch of buttons with nothing to do.

>no way we can get a bad image from it, the only thing which would be bad for men are messages

If you care about an image or messages from fictional characters you have brain problems.

Same. This feels like sega spitting in the faces of the real fans. Which is weird because they knew we'd buy as many REAL yakuza games they were willing to put out

Glad they've finally accepted that their combat system was absolute garbage

Except Tekken is a versus fighter meant to be multiplayer have to know your shit to succeed, Yakuza is an SP beat em up with a braindead AI that never really expects more than button mashing from you.

Yes user, people do consider the influence from medias.

I mean, on Tekken you can get away with a whole lot of shit online that really breaks the flow and rules of the it, so mashing like a retard does work in your favor sometimes. Just like you have the option to go outside and do something but you'd rather discuss why the combat on a niche videogame is bad when it really fucking isn't for the majority of the games and offer fucking nothing useful to this god damn website.

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none of them even mentioned Dirge

Blow it out your ass

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I hope SMT V won't be turned into shitty beat'em-up because of this.

Rational people understand games are fiction and don't apply to real life. Seek help.

Haven't you heard about the special version of Persona 5 that the switch is getting?

>BAM HAM combat of yakuza
Is this a joke?

Persnoyna is not SMT

>I don't
>the transophobic stuff added nothing beside shit humor.

You've literally contradicted yourself in the same sentence and proved my assumption was correct. There is zero point discussing this with you because you have shown you're completely oblivious to your hypocrisy.

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Considering Apocalypse, it might as well be at this point

>I can finally stop playing this shit

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I guess that's the end of the god tier combat, then. 7 might be the first Yakuza game I don't buy. Everyone post examples of the god tier Yakuza combat that the idiots at sega have dropped to make way for Personashit.

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This looks pathetic.

Give it back Kadaris Jennings Rodnell Barnett Da'wan Dawson Aquintis Adams Zean Rogers
Levell Fisher KeAndre Collier Jamichael Clayton Darrell Berry Diontray Bridges Daquan

Nobody cares about your shit opinion, zoomer. Go back to Fortnite.

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>spamming roll and watching special attack cutscenes
Oh wow such a good combat, how dmcfags will ever recover from this amirite.

What the fuck Tales games are you talking about? Tales of is real time action gameplay with a combo system.

Of all the JRPGs you went for to compare a turn based system to, you picked Tales of, an absolutely not turn based series?

>mashing square is a good combat now
The absolute state of yakuzafags.

me taking out the trolls and haters in yakuza threads like a badass

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Turn based is objectively bad

>youthful and energetic spiky-haired protagonist
>Beef McHugeLarge
>nerd
>woman
It really is like my Japanese animes

>Being trans isn't mental illness
Stopped reading there. KYS faggot

>twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/1166942120847925248
>classic Yakuza game format reached one complete style so wanted to try totally different to jump. Our experts of action game creation made this RPG with their flavor; hope fans welcome this change. If not, happy to change back to action game for future releases.
So he wanted to change the combat because he thought it was COMPLETE. Let that sink in.

>You've literally contradicted yourself
Let's make a game painting a white south african as evil then, let's see how you react

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>tfw no more KIIIRRRRYUUUU-CHAN

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Having a female or male brain isn't a mental illness

It's true thought, 0 was the peak, 6, K2 and Judgment just felt like they were not even trying anymore.

Can't wait for it.
Stay mad.

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interesting

Sounds dope to me dog. I couldn't even finish 5 cause I was so fucking bored of the combat at that point after the previous games.

Yakuza has always been a JRPG. It's just now adopting a new battle system. Besides combat is not why people play the series in the first place.

Really only Yakuza Zero had the variety to make fighting fun.

If people like you commit suicide at a rate of 45%, you're sick in the end.

Why do you assume the brain is correct and not the body? People can be retarded and wrong but trannies jump at the opportunity to match their correct functional body to the deluded and incorrect mind.

>weeb shills unironically defending turning a garbage movie game like Yakuza in a garbage movie game like Persona

Instead of staying a garbage movie game like Yakuza?

>mutt protag

If you plan to change something you could at least do it to try and make it better, not worse.

The worst thing they could do is make the turn based elements easy as shit. So instead of mashing square at random encounters you're just mashing X.

Beating up randoms was fun. Even if they didn't really give much push back. Seriously what are the chances some team who are known for making "action" games can make a good turn based system?

Suicide happen because of lack of family support and stigma according to studies, not a trans too, you sound mad

Are you stupid? Gender dysphoria happen because their brain do not match their body, it has been scientifically proven that their brains are normal, the issue is biological, not mental.

>it has been scientifically proven that their brains are normal
Wrong. The "normal" brains are just doing it for attention and because it's hip. Unless you prove something about their bodies that can be found in all cases then you're dealing with a mental illness or attention whores.

Would you faggots stop arguing about Gender dysphoria in my video games thread?

That a fuckin cool trailer.

Autism

My reaction would be nothing because I don't think identities like that should be a protected class.

There's like 10 yakuza threads up just go to another one.

I didn't actually assume you were a tranoid, it was hypothetical language.
And you know what, I changed my mind. You're right. It's not the transes that are wrong, the WORLD is wrong and needs to warp around their every whim or else they'll kill themselves.
Thank you for showing me the light, fren.

I unironically think it looks pretty good. Either way they already said they'll return to previous combat if too many people dislike it and judging from the reactions they most likely will, so I'm interested in trying it out.

I can't wait til when Yakuza 8 releases and returns to its roots. Yea Forums will shit on it and cry until they make another turn based game.

>OL party member
Based

yakuza's combat has been in decline ever since the dragon engine
can't blame them for trying something else
its fine

Eh. I feel like it at least fits for ONE game, since somewhere it's mentioned the protag is a huge Dragon Quest fan.

This is a dame da ne moment if I’ve ever seen one

I've only played zesteria and berseria but if that is what the combat is like in all tales games mediocre doesn't even begin to describe the boring ass combat in those games

now i'm interested

wrong use
the pic should be old combat

I can see it already
>AAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA THEY PUSSIED OUT AND WENT BACK
>ughhh, another yakuza rehash
>everyone loved the previous game for mixing up the formula and now we're back to the shitty braindead 2 button masher REEEEEEEE

I only played Yakuza 0 so far. The combat was pretty dull. Spamming brawler to bash your head through enemies. Doesn't help that later bosses just ignore hitstun half the time.

On the other hand, combat is always an essential part of a game if it exists. You can always say why not make a different series if you want to try a different style of combat. See FF for example, which has been turn based for ages just to turn into some dumbed down action combat.

poor yakuza fans
first your series gets overrun by normalfags then 6 happens and now this
it's just sad

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they already said they wouldn't mind going back if it was disliked.

>Yea Forums will shit on it and cry until they make another turn based game.
gotta love the framing there considering its the exact opposite happening right now

the turn based rpg gameplay is a huge ass turn off for me. probably gonna get the game whenever ps+ gives it out for me.

He's talking about Y6 you retarded newfag.

This looks like Clan Creator where they took the pre-existing combat animations and shoved them into a different genre (RPG instead of RTS) but they're trying to make it the main game.
They really need to give it way more polish.

>their brains are normal, the issue is biological, not mental

This is the best mental gymnastics I've seen in a long time. When the mind rejects the body to the point of mutilation then it's a disorder. There are varying degrees of the disorder but they are all under the same umbrella. For example if I cut off my arm because I identify as being disabled I be classed as mentally ill and locked up in a mental asylum. This isn't the case if you cut off your dick and identified as ma'am even though the only difference between the two is which body part you chop off. The reality is that transitioning is backed by powerful people and society has just got to bow down to this lunacy until a burns out.

Sega shills on full force today... and they do it for FREE

Never cared for DMC but a turn based Nier would be fucking great

I'm more baffled than angry, why?

>WAAAAAAH WHY WASN'T THE NEW GAME EXACTLY THE SAME
RGG has made around TWELVE (12) games in the beat em up style, not counting their work on the FIVE (5) remasters and the TWO (2) PSP games, and all of this shit was made in the span of FOURTEEN (14) years.
There is literally enough Yakuza games in the original style to last you a good few years if you aren't a shut-in autist.

I know. I mentioned that as well
Won't stop anons from shitposting about it though.

What if this is just how they are weeding out the plebs and 0 babies of the series?

This game will be another dead souls.

>Wrong. The "normal" brains are just doing it for attention and because it's hip
Sources?
Because science debunk you
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/
academic.oup.com/cercor/article/25/10/3527/387406

Not a trans but ok

>When the mind rejects the body to the point of mutilation then it's a disorder
A biological disorder, not a mental disorder, and your examples are retarded, I posted studies above debunking you

People dislike change for the sake of change is not shitposting. Next time try to fix your god damn game before changing it into an entire new genre.

How is this yakuza related?

Don't feed them. They're here to discuss SJW/trans/pol bullshit, not games.

>THere have been no good games in the FF7
actually, all of them are. and you have garbage taste.

What the absolute fuck.

but 7 is saving the series from the normalfag secondaries. Look at all the butthurt 0babbies in this thread alone.

Its not, his tranny brain doesnt know when to fuck off.

Ur delusional if you think this bruv, if anything, it’ll bring a whole wave of secondaries that play turn based JRPGs, it’s a 0 situation all over again cause its also a soft reboot

good

>Yakuza has never reviewed well
>Changing it this drastically
Post yfw it fails and Yea Forums acts like they were never into it

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>get btfo by facts
cope

is hyperbitfag going to commit sucidie?

is this an out-of-season april fools joke?

All those facts tell me is to prevent any kind of surgery or hormones before a brain scan determines they are eligible.

It's not extremely rare for japanese companies to announce real things on aprils fool to make it sound like one at first, Key literally announced all of their games on that day since something like 2005.

Yea Forums is contrarian, you should know this by now

How is this a bad thing?
That mean those who truly need it will get what they need, most does, only a few just pretend

Please tell me this is just this gen's dead souls.

>>Yakuza has never reviewed well
???

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>let's take a 6/10 series and try to make a jrpg
Oh god Yakuza is the next Sonic isn't it?

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based, Yea Forums trannies btfo

What the fuck are you talking about?
Change is exactly what this series needed and this is a huge step forward.

>Posts two random papers from a google scholar search. DEBUNKED!!!11

Fucking retard neuroscientists think that the brain somehow magically decides to change it's structure resulting in observed psychological differences. It's the other way round idiot. Look it up on google scholar I dare you.

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You sure did bud
waltheyer.com/transgenders-4-studies-say-its-mental-disorders/

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how long have you actually been a fan of the series I wonder

>Being this assblasted by facts
Post something debunking my papers then.
Oh wait....you can't

>yakuza has never reviewed well
>inb4 mobilefag
Could you at least try?

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>my papers
Rofl. Come on kid. Gigs up.

unrelated but if this isn't proof that metacritic scores are completely useless then I don't know what is

>literally 0 90+ses

I came to Yakuza 1 late but I started with the PS2 games before 3 was released. Played through every game in the series except Kenzan and Ishin.

not him, but my first yakuza was 2 on ps2. I have zero issues with the series trying something new. not to mention I love turn-based rpgs.

and you think the next mainline entry being turnbased is a good idea?

Not him but I got into it with Y3 when it got released. Went back and played Y1 and Y2 before finishing 3. I wanted Kiryu gone after 3 since his story was done. Kamurocho also got boring quite fast and I loved that there were 4 cities alongside Kamurocho 5, though they were pretty shallow. Change is definetely what this series needs. I'm sick of all these remakes and remasters.

Not him but a change is welcome, if it doesn't work they can always go back. Not a big deal.

>never reviewed well
Sorry, what? I think we come from seperate realities.

1st paper: Low N and doesn't adress the cause
2nd paper: Unrelated to the cause of transsexualism, also Low N and doesn't adress the cause.
3rd paper: Link show nothing
4th paper: doesn't adress the cause
You only proved that trans people are more likely to be depressed, which can have sociological explanation.
You posted nothing debunk the studies that I posted

this reaction is why 99% of series just stay the same for years on end

gamers are babies who hate change

first, I love JRPGs.
Second, why? Why Yakuza? we need turn base jrpg to stay that way and action games to stay action. Is this Snoy's response to "lol we totally don't hate japanese games now look at Yakuza 7!1!!"

Yes.
I'm excited that they're willing to try something new and not fall into the same mold once again.

I love me some new turn based RPG.

Hope story is not linked with other Yakuza games.

Imagine thinking that you require a score above 90 to classify as a good game or even series.

Japs are even more autistic when it comes to change. They were absolutely fuming when Phoenix Wright became a sideline character in AA4, so the devs brought him back in 5. It's why a lot of Jap devs are scared of changing up the formula

Dragonquest.

Well we've already seen that the kpop pretty boy is back from Yakuza 6, unless he had some secret twin brother.

Oh right I forgot if it's not 90 and up it's shit. My apologies.

Fix the damn combat then. Why the hell do they even need to change it altogether.
>inb4 they did and it never worked
They never actually did much to improve it. And any retard here can come up with plenty of ways to fix Yakuza’s combat.

damn I really hate the combat in yakuza 0. Guess I should suck it up and play, at least rush style is easy.

>Square Enix announces Dragon Quest 12 will be action rpg in an open world
It's different so it's good right? They're not falling into the same old mold again

>it's actually fucking real
It'll probably be good, but what the fuck that is such a drastic change. Why even change it? The series was doing just fine with its combat getting better with every new installment up until 6.

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How can it be conclusive when they're literally admitting that further study is needed. How the hell does it mean that trangenderism exist? Their brain have both male and female structure. And that's like pretty normal for a normal human. Having a slightly, yes very slightly, same-esque brain structure of a female doesn't even confirm that the biological male is somehow a female. What the fuck. It's not that these trannies have a literal brain of a woman, they just have some slight similarities to it.

9 actually tried to make the combat real time but people freaked out so much that they changed it back immediately

Well, I doubt it'll be connected that much. It looks like more of a soft reboot desu. And previous games weren't connected that much either (aside from 5, 6 and returning characters in some games).

Blame capitalism

this but unironically for the Yakuza games on PC
Played all the other games on console, bought 0 again for PC so I could mod the movesets and actually make the combat fun

Top kek. I'll gladly be at the front end of the seat seeing the same faggots who defend this shit, seethe so much and made 20 threads about how DQ is dead. Oh wait, they already did with FF. Fuck these hypocrites, user.

Literally fucking this
>HOW DARE SQUARE CHANGE MUH FINAL FANTASY
>Lol seethe yakuza is shit different is interesting faggot

You should re-read the papers again, not just slight similarities, they show that brains are tied to gender identity, you've no conclusive evidence to label it as a mental disorder.
You can only claim that it's a mental disorder.

We do not know how biology/psychology causation works at all so pretty much all of this proves nothing. All papers posted show no causal mechanism from biological brain state to psychological state or psychological state to brain state. Your attitude reflects the serious problem in the literature of automatically treating biological observations as causal when in fact there is no mechanism yet that can explain how changes in the brain first occur to then cause psychological changes.

Does any of this look like "Lowered dev cost" to you?


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Yakuza 7 is going to be great and that's a fact!

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>Turn based
Awesome, picked up.

go back to retardera

There is no reason to believe that a female brain could have any other cause beside a biological one, the papers literally show that brains have gender identity.
The papers posted by the other brainlet showed nothing beside that trans people can have depression.

As long as it's changed TO turn-based, it's a good thing. Everything is better that way.

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sorry but yakuza combat sucks and even the devs knew

to think this horrid post almost got quads

Game isn’t even out stop sperging

A retardera wouldn't admit that men can be abused by women retard

this is garbage. what a "loss" this new system is.

They have both males and females characteristics. They have grey matter on the frontal lobe similar to males rather than females. They have some other parts though are closer to females. This is quite normal for a healthy male and females for vice versa. If someone claim that they're “female” their brain structure should have to be identically similar to a female brain. But they do not. They're basically males but slight more feminine. And there are females but slightly more masculine. That doesn't directly mean they're transgender. The entire mantra that new wave feminism, how males and female brains are not that much different come from the same branch of research and study.

Extremely based. 100% with you, I feel quite conflicted about this. Yakuza oozes soul part of it is because the core gameplay has been the same more or less.

Those papers were misinterpreted or badly done, recent research show that brains have distinct gender identity

>mash cross to select menu option
>win

>mash square to use the one best combo string
>win

I'm not seeing the difference

They're too lazy to fix their game. And just switched genre because it's easier to be crapped out yearly.

>female brain
Did you even read the papers you posted? Even the abstract is enough to show you're retarded. Yes, there are clearly similarities with female brain structure in MtF trans but these similarities hardly warrent being called a "female brain". I cba to find the papers but there is crossover in brain similarities in the normal population too; there is a bimodal distribution in brain structure across the sexes.
Either way the papers you posted say absolutely nothing about how the participants brains developed that way. Speculating, I would say that positive reinforcement of female behaviour in the MtF subjects caused the changes in the brain structure over time. Conversely you could speculate that these subjects were born with "female brains" and that is the result of their condition. Either way it's speculation and you're missing the point.

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>if it gets rehashed on an yearly basis using the same exact cities, characters and combat it's soulful
FIFA must be peak soul at this point

>can't find the papers
So no reason to believe you
>being this retarded
There is literally no way that environmental effects can cause a new gender identity to your brain, it's like saying that eating onions will make you change biological sex.
And you should reread the abstracts

It doesn't need to be fully similar user, point is that trans people have distinct brain pattern, even before hormone treatment, which mean that it was natural.

>ever supporting a series that gloryfies organized crime
Degenerates.

>environmental factors don't cause changes in brain structure
Are you fucking serious? Come on now...
I'm sorry I can't go on, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Sports games are not video games user. They're drugs for compulsive gamblers.

Not when it come to gender identity, how dense are you?

Are you implying gender identity is somehow transcendent of brain function now?

I always ended up avoiding random encounters in classic Yakuza, this can't be THAT bad.

:(

You're right, it'll probably be worse with the encounter rate now being a jrpg.

People that have been tortured for their entire lives have different brain structures. People in solitary forget how to speak. That's "natural" too! If a kid who experiences gender dysphoria is given a shit load of positive reinforcement when it comes to acting like gender in question and that causes the resulting changes in the brain, does you argument that this is perfectly normal still stand? What if the kid went through a short phase of dysphoria and was never encouraged to pursue their thoughts? It would be a completely different story.

I'm really starting to think that they're just giving a new definition for klinefelters. Did any of the participants of the control female and male are dykes or some pardon me for using this, soiboys. But still identify as biological male and female. Bet that'll throw a spanner or to the average.

lol

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Did you even watch the trailer?

You know jackshit about real gender dysphoria, and you're fucking retarded.
Gender identity is biological, it's like you're saying that being treated like a woman will give you a vagina.

Yeah I do believe that male and females differences are due to biological causes.

>being this stupid
Read the discussion part.

Gays/dykes/soibois do show some brain structure similar to the opposite sex I would think. The point I'm making is its a twin peaks, bimodal distribution in brain structure between the sexes. There is some crossover in the population so you will see female like brains in men and vice versa.

The bomb being a fake in 2 sums up perfectly why the writing in these games is terrible. Nothing ever actually matters or has consequence. Things happen just to have a melodramatic scene which ten minutes later doesn't even matter anymore. Kaz can be stabbed and left to die and then be back on his feet and fine 2 minutes later. These games are full of this shit. It's not even "twists" because that would mean things would have to be foreshadowed or at least still have consequence. But literally everything that you think is happening can be undone at any moment. RUBBER BULLETS is the most extreme example but the games are full of this garbage. It only annoys me because when people point out how shit the gameplay is they defend the games by saying "you idiot, you play for the story" but that makes no sense when they're written so badly.

stale pasta is stale

>Yeah I do believe that male and females differences are due to biological causes.
But you stated that gender identity is immune to change by environmental factors. You're contradicting yourself.