>the actual final boss becomes actual final boss only in the third game (a direct sequel), while in the second game he's a mere NPC and a comic relief throughout almost the entirety of the game >you don't find his actual exact reasons for why he became "evil" and decided to turn into the final boss until at least the middle of the third game >there's a pseudo-"main bad" in the third game that overplays his role so-goddamn-fucking-hard that he actually makes you sincerely believe that he's going to be the main bad, right until the very middle of the game where it SUDDENLYPLOTWIST >the "final boss" of the second game is now somehow a "reformed ex-bad (I did it for the greater good, fren)" guy and is helping you in the third game, despite the fact HE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF MAIN HERO'S BELOVED ONE IN THE PREVIOUS GAME AND THE MAIN HERO IS SOMEHOW FUCKING ABSO-EFFING-LUTELY "A-OK" WITH IT IN THE SEQUEL SIMPLY BECAUSE "THE BAD IS ACTUALLY DEAD AND NOW JUST A MINDFUCKING GHOST" >BOTH of the endings in the third game are absolute PIEM TARADOX and thus technically might be uncanon, because the FOURTH game takes place LATER into the franchise's timeline, but it utterly ruined everything by doing absolutely new cast of unrelated characters (except one, and even then it's a massive retcon) in a completely different place/country, thus rendering both of the endings for the third game highly debatable to be any canon >throughout the entirety of the third game BOTH the main hero AND the ACTUAL big bad that is the ACTUAL final boss (AND previously mere NPC) are trying to do SAME thing for EXACTLY SAME-FUCKING-REASONS, and BOTH fail miserably, yet SOMEHOW the main hero still stays hero and the big bad becomes the actual final boss because "fuck ya'll, I'm done with this BS" >98% of all Yea Forums doesn't know any of this, because they're either never played all of it, or they just don't remember it at all due to being zoomer toddlers
>franchise ends with plane flying off in all entries not counting the secret ending
David Richardson
>Go through a Kennel after getting past a Dog >Fight a bunch of skellies >Arrive at a Grave >Fight the product of the place's fear & despair
Jack Wood
Luggy House
Caleb Roberts
Ass Cumbot?
Nathan Powell
Nah, it's a third-person over-the-shoulder shooter
Adrian Morales
Nicely done, user
Grayson White
I dunno, Valkyria Chronicles?
Isaac Garcia
No less than 10 (Yous)
Jordan Hill
Unmapped?
Luke Young
Actually SOMEWHAT close (a couple of devs are same between both franchises, but companies and content, and even platforms, are absolutely different), but no cigar.
A series you've clearly didn't play jack shit of, because you're too young and underage of a zoo9mer toddler to remember it.
Caleb Brown
I wanna say Xenosaga?
Matthew Rodriguez
Not in the slightest.
Mason Anderson
Mario & Luigi trilogy
Luis Bailey
>the girl who is hot in her panties for you is your mom >the girl you love died a game ago >the bad guy of the previous game was actually trying to stop something even worse from happening, and it turns out you were all just idiots fucking everything up >a comic relief side character of the first game is the literal big bad now because his waifu died a horrible death in the first game, and his clone of her did the same in the second >the first game in the series isn't actually the first game, it's a game with an entirely different name and is virtually unconnected until a surprise in the first game >none of these events likely matter because the true ending sends you back in time with the possibility of setting everything right this time around
James Ramirez
My turn. >The world's completely fucked because a space colony crashed right into it >Some science guy examines the wreckage of the crash; goes insane >some reality warping phenomenons start popping up and violently killing people or making them insane and evil >Science guy, acting through his assistant and an asshole, hire some private investigators to investigate the reality warp >MC is a cop; Thinks this shit's really fishy >Investigates the private investigators; They're all people who were killed prior to the events of this game, but are somehow back to life. MC kills them all a second time. >As it turns out, science guy made the reality warping shit to institute his crazy-ass eugenics policy. MC goes to his house and kills him. >Science guy also re-awakened an ancient, all-corrupting evil entity, basically for shits and giggles. MC kills it too.
Oliver Cox
Mega Man X6
Brandon Moore
Motherfucker, you've actually played the OP. My respect, d00d.
Julian Stewart
Bingo Bongo. Must not bee too good at this.
Luis Parker
The only reason you made it difficult was because you purposefully mis-aligned the games order. The series in question is it's own series despite being related to what is technically the first game of the series. So you're citing the first game in the series as the second, when it's not.
Carson Harris
>purposefully mis-aligned Not in the slightest, kek. It's a direct-fucking-sequel, thus it's a second game, not a first one. Just because the name is different and it spawned several games in the franchise with that particular name, doesn't make it any less of a direct sequel of the very first game. Because plot. Maybe you haven't played the very first game thoroughly and didn't see the actual true ending? Like, the second game LITERALLY continues off of that (but you won't know that right from the beginning, literally in the middle as a massive plot twist, which is FUCKING GENIUS).
Owen Ramirez
98% of Yea Forums can't decipher what you're even trying to fucking say you schizo
Ian King
I figured it it out because I don't have shit taste in games and played a healthy swath of all kinds of games, why haven't you figured it out? Were you some kind of child playing garbage like Mass Effect and Halo when you should have been playing good games instead?
James Parker
>you're citing the first game in the series as the second, when it's not It IS, ffs. It's a DIRECT-fucking-sequel. It seems that you really haven't played the ACTUAL first game all that much/haven't played it to the very end, eh? Because if you'd did, you wouldn't ever have had questioned my methodology any ever at all.
Colton Hall
When OP series came out and was relevant/alive such shit as Mass Effect wasn't around yet in the form of the very first game, if my memory is right. The OP is a literal zoomer toddler filter and casual-denier.
Gabriel Morris
Most people don't even know the preceeding game even exists. And despite providing a bit of backstory for the first game, you can go the entire thing without needing it for context as they explain everything in the first game of the series. Also it has been years since I played either, but I only really remember about 4 characters tops from the entire thing that matter within the context of the story for the series preceeding it, and most of them die anyway or just don't really stay relevant past a certain point. Only the BBEG of the first and one other guy in the series is really relevant past the first, far as story goes.
Jackson Powell
Also just going to say I'm purposefully not naming anything just to keep people who never played a good game in their lives from discovering what the games in question are. I'm sure someone will name it eventually, but until then, the zoom zooms can go back to Fortnite.
Cooper Phillips
>if you boot the game up after the credits roll, there's an extra part of the story where you go to hell and fight the true final boss to get the best ending, which turns out to be a pretty weird fucking ending
Xavier Thomas
>Most people don't even know the preceeding game even exists Not my problem. It's development was such a fucking mess to begin with, and the end product came out to be an absolute clusterfuck, so no wonder devs tried to hide the FACT that the SECOND game is an actual honest-to-all-fucks DIRECT sequel to it so-goddamn-fucking-hard that you have to play through more than 40% of the second game to find out/get PLOTWISTED all of a sudden that you've actually played the direct sequel of the first game all this time. Devs are fuckhueg trolls, because, despite first game being a total fucking shitclown circus 85% of it, the mere fact alone the second game is a direct sequel and devs hid it so well from you until you finish at least half of their next game, is absolutely god tier trolling and simply GENIUS, because it automatically makes you want to play the very first game and to find out what the fuck's that all shit was about, if you've started with the second game and only heard about the very first game before. And if you're not a pirate, then devs essentially make you buy a copy of the first game that way. Fucking geniuses.
Juan Richardson
Imagine being this spiteful that the next generation will find and enjoy the games of your childhood. what a faggot
Colton Stewart
What’s wrong with exposing casuals to games they’ve missed? What are they gonna do to you, have a shit opinion?
Joshua Harris
Shadow Hearts
Joshua Hall
>bit of backstory for the first game No. The second game is LITERALLY a continuation of the first game, because ONE OF THE PLAYABLE MAIN CHARACTERS IS THE CHILD OF THE FIRST GAME'S PROTAGONISTS.
>you can go the entire thing without needing it for context Not if you've heard about the first game before (and a fuckton of people did, because it was overadvertised and overhyped as fuck back in the days, in media such as magazines, game expos, TV ads and etc), yet never played it. The name immediately becomes stuck in the memory, due to being very unique and nonconformist. Even if you didn't play it. Even if you didn't see jack shit of it. The name alone is very memorable and very well-known. So when you're playing through the sequel, that moment when you find out about the game being the sequel, completely shocks AND makes you want to play the first game, because the second game is so-fucking-good.
Kevin Ramirez
YHVH up your ass.
John Allen
>people no play good game, only bad game >what good game? me no tell you because you bad game grug think you dumdum
>not even close >Kyuuyaku >immediately starts after first Megami's credit roll >the true final boss and best ending are clusterfucks to obtain Fuck off, you know I'm right.
Oliver Clark
Never played the games though, still stuck on playing ps1 games.
Cooper Hernandez
again, not even close it's a very, very obscure game, but here's a hint: it's made by konami
Mason Bennett
No shit retard, they're asking because they're interested and might want to learn more or even play it
Juan Cox
How the fuck did you manage, then? Did you actually jewgle up by key phrases?
Hunter Carter
You never go to hell in DD though.
Benjamin Collins
Go fucking play them right now.
Angel Turner
Only if he starts right from K, before going full-blown S on his ass. It's mandatory, nowadays.
Christopher Parker
If you don't gatekeep the good games, people will never learn to just play games at all in hopes of discovering a good one, or just having to play a game and actually form an opinion of their own about it with no one to tell them "it's shit" or "it's good" and color their expectations.
Nolan Campbell
Shadow Hearts: FtNW is the only one I played and I fucking loved it. Easily one of my top 10. Are the first 3 worth a play to me?
Jordan Kelly
i know it applies, but it's sadly not the game i was thinking of. not even the same series. sorry, user, but it seems you're just one more clod rejected
John Diaz
>How the fuck did you manage, then? Spent too much time on Yea Forums. >Only if he starts right from K Yeah, Koudelka is on my ps1 games I'm gonna play.
Lincoln Torres
>credits roll and you have more questions than resolutions, especially because of the credits scenes >everything goes to shit >you go to the deepest part of the main game’s world and get a wacky ending thrown at you Fuck you you know I’m right
Andrew Mitchell
>FtNW is the only one I played and I fucking loved it. Easily one of my top 10. ...you need to tryhard way more than just that, kid.
Adrian White
>level select is a key component of the story in the true ending's route
Blake Davis
i'll give you another hint: the ending i'm talking about is indeed weird, but it's not ambiguous. it's very set-in-stone, in fact. it's just bizarre as shit.
Anthony Ramirez
Koudelka is really fucking weird to play, I wouldn'[t call it a good experience, or a bad one. It's just an older, weird PS1 game, like a lot of weird PS1 games in the janky ages of early 3D games.
Parker Taylor
Fuck, I realized it was Koudelka/Shadow Hearts as soon as I read the "Girl you love died a game ago" but came to this thread too late.
Ryder Johnson
>Koudelka is on my PSOne games I'm gonna play ...better buckle up and grind your teeth. That's NOT going to be an easy ride (ESPECIALLY if you haven't played it even once thus far for all these years). Go to GameFAQs and search up it's cheats/"hidden"/"secret" items and methodology how to obtain them, if you don't believe me.
No, it's a legitimately "not most bad, but pretty bad nonetheless" kind of a game. It's only some purpose of existence nowadays is literally to fill in the gaps of story/characters/scenario of the entire franchise, for those who wish to see the picture fully. It's a flavor piece.
Brayden Richardson
OP writing about it the way he did was the confusing part. Again, mostly because people barely know Koudelka exists, even less people than know SH exists, and most people who have played SH haven't touched or heard of it, so don't connect the two, as the series wasn't really advertised as being related to it, it was just a thing that sort of happens halfway through SH1. And the 2nd game has even less to do with it as IIRC Koudelka isn't even mentioned in that one, and her kid isn't a party member.
Josiah Wood
Read and , and stop that shit already. The game is well known, even if not for the reasons you might think about. It was always well known.
Caleb Bailey
>Ayys invaded >first attempt at repelling the threat failed >ayys overtook the planet, people are in bliss >two decades later (you) get extracted out of an ayy facility >fight the ayys from the shadows >your men can and will die >a NEET, a shill and a thirsty cunt are opposing you >(you) get to fight in the final battle wielding ayy tech >ALL characters have Oblivion-tier faces
Dominic Diaz
>we will never get the enhanced version of SH2 nor a fully uncut version
40€ mandatory expansion that will never go down in price
Benjamin Cox
>Classic game based on a movie franchise but not a movie >better than the movie adaptation that plays exactly the same that came out around the same time >better than the fourth movie.
Wyatt Ross
I don't care about knowing what game because you type like the most annoying fuckwit ever born out of decades of incestuous relationships.
>you didn't pick up that one item in the corner of the room, sidekick is dead >you got the item and you picked the sidekick up, but you didn't drop her off at the shed in enough time, sidekick is dead >you did all of that but when you put her in the bed to rest, you didn't talk to her enough times to give her what she needs and once you leave that area you can't go back, sidekick is dead.
It happened to me.
Justin Hill
MOTHER FUCKER
I actually unironically always thought it was "fine". The scene itself is a dragfest and is kind of stupid, but the voice-over is...fine. That's ain't no original Japanese version, though. It fucking disgusts me to the very core that still even up to this day no one managed to successfully did a fully working Undub of the second game, despite third and the garbage fourth having full Undubs being available for ages. What the actual fuck, I wonder. Is it THAT hard to crack the second game, or something? Is it exactly the same case of "the game gets absolutely broken/unfinishable if even a slightest sliver of it's code gets modified" like what Avatar Tuner has?
Jeremiah Cruz
>true ending is killing yourself in the past from preventing the fucked up future you caused
Gavin Jones
What really kills the scene/makes it a laugh fest is the shloops and the VA doing an old woman doing an old man voice for the story like kids around a campfire. It'd not be what it is if it had sound effects for the shloops and the VA not trying to do that.
Justin Gonzalez
Thats a few games I can think of. But was this one a mediocre FPS?
Lincoln Wood
>But was this one a mediocre FPS? Do you mean Timeshift? It's not that one The one I mean is a great fps, but fucking short.
Cooper Scott
u okay dude?
Carter Clark
My turn. >Flying through space on a big ass freighter. >Freighter is part of the equivalent of Space FedEx. >Freighter delivering strange cargo that no one knows its origin. >Strange Technology from the Cargo causes an unknown being to appear, causing havoc onboard before ship crash lands on an unknown planet. >Game starts.
Jaxon Lewis
>run around the woods for several hours >stumble upon a bandit camp >run away >kill the last idiot still chasing you >return and fire off several arrows >slash the remaining bandits to death >wander around for several more hours >arrive in a town >get several jobs >wander around the woods some more >make money >fuck bath whores
Nicholas Bailey
>it came after Shenmue's Saturn prototype, but before Shenmue released on Dreamcast >it has much deeper/better day/night cycle and NPC scheduling >it's on PSOne, which is bizarre considering how deep it is in it's mechanics (completely BTFOing Shenmue on that field) >no one remembers or knows, because literally only me and other one-and-a-half user actually played it >translation was never finished, despite that one fucker trying to seed it on ROMhacking which was AGAINST translator's plans/wishes >this is the very first and currently the only case to date when a translation from a Japanese game was completely removed from ROMhacking and uploader was banned
Lucas Foster
Unreal OR AvP 1999.
Alexander Bennett
>call the host, who is using a game changing mod that makes half of the point of the game painfully easy, a shitter >get kicked
Nathan Long
I was going to say Way of the Samurai until the last two sentences. Although apparently WotS1 is on PS2 and I misremembered. People should play Way of the Samurai anyways.
Neither. >The planet you land on is violent and hostile beyond measure. >All bosses and enemies immediately beeline to fight you with no sense of self preservation. >Titles of enemies are given as though the bosses are protectors of the life here and are gentle at worst. >Killing the final boss supposedly gives a sense of extreme unease and disrupts the balance of the environment.
Lucas Robinson
Risk of Rain
Dominic Morris
Wrong and wrong. Way of The Samurai was never on PSOne and it's not Way of The Samurai.
Correct. Have a picture of Providence, Bulwark of the Weak. Read between the lines. Risk of Rain has odd writing. Curious how 2 handles the story in the background.
Like user, it was news few weeks back about the released translation on major sites.
Joshua Cook
>Risk of Rain has odd writing >that's the only thing he thinks is "weird" about that piece of barely-playable chinkschlock
Parker James
>You are the villain for the majority of the game until you fight the real villain in the final battle
Alexander Lewis
Should've never specified it that deeply, fuck. So you haven't played it, eh...well...you should...either by learning Japanese (and boy-oh-boy, it was a FUCKTON ton of VERY advanced Japanese. ADULT Japanese, not your Slayers Royal-tier "80% of the game is romaji and katakana") or by waiting for al;l eternity for the proper full translation from the actual translator to land...
Landon Clark
KotOR 1. You are Revan and are the villain until you fight Malak.
Not the exact game I was thinking, but that works as well.
Blake Murphy
>dad dies >you get the family business >start finding girls with amnesia >put them to work at the business >turns out that getting close to you starts making them remember things >main villain wants his harem back so he attacks your town >go kick his ass >turns out your ancestor promised the girls that your business would be there for them when they showed up
Dominic Young
Back to /vn/.
Hudson Cooper
...so you liked the worst shadow hearts...aside from koudelka being something like a 5 hours rpg with 4 or 5 discs that you had to change each hour.
SH1 and 2 are top notch, and masterpieces compared to FtNW, even when SH1 has aged worse.
SH1 is more creepy, SH2 is more epic adventure/shonen.
Dylan Cruz
my turn fags, only true patricians will guess this one.
>start the game as typical JRPG dude in typical JRPG town, fighting typical JRPG bad demon dudes >suddenly at the end of a chapter 1, you start playing as some random bad demon dude in one of the enemy factions, dealing with fucked up shit due to how fucked up their society is >perspective flips back and forth throughout the game between the typical JRPG hero and the bad demon dude, as both rise to power and become key figures in their respective societies. Both get their own party members with unique personalities, gameplay styles, and backstories. Demon dude is focused on rebelling against his society, while typical JRPG hero starts a race war to genocide the demon people. >JRPG hero learns (he starts growing demon wings) that his mother was a whore who fucked a demon and produced him, a half breed. He has a huge break down and identity crisis, and the absolute madman rips his own wings out of his back. >turns out the demon dude you play as is his twin brother >they eventually team up for a short while to fight a greater threat >JRPG hero fucking betrays his demon brother and their party because "muh human race" >you get to pick which side to play as and fight here, defeating the other side and going to the final battle as the team of your choice. >The final battle is against an ancient, primordial eyeball who fires laserbeams of darkness, summons smaller eyeballs, and has control of a mini death star like super weapon
Landon King
>5 hours J-RPG with 4 discs that you had to change each hour >he thinks that's the worst thing about it
Christopher Torres
Sorry, wrong genre entirely.
Jeremiah Hill
Arc The Lad Twilight of Spirits.
Blake Gutierrez
Is it Advance Wars? I haven't played DS or Days, but the fourth game retcon would sound like it matches...
Jack Nguyen
The answer has been given in this thread. And no, it's not Advance Wars.
Julian Ross
fuck, and here I thought I was the only one who played the game because no one ever talks about it
Wyatt Gomez
>he doesn't read the thread before answering And then you fuckers still dare to complain why we don't want to spoil wins so that zoomer toddlers could find about them and ruin the perfectly fine balance in this world. Ffs.
>no one ever talks about it It's because both of the PS 2's Arcs were massively overshadowed by the original trilogy, naturally. Yes, even despite Arc The Lad III being such an underwhelming fuckery (after the ABSOLUTE PERFECTION that is Arc The Lad II, that is).
Leo Miller
...SaGa Frontier II?
Jonathan Bennett
>On your way to reclaiming your ancestral lands, you are forced to enter a badlands-tier area where you stumble on a group of vicious, fanatic raiders >The merchants warned you about this >You are forced to annihilate them and their homes, only to later find out that that both you and them descent from the same peoples
At least when I played it back in the day, that was the worst thing that I remember.
Jonathan Rogers
One line. Here we go. >Alien cowboy becomes Boba Fett to pay for cosmetic surgery and accidentally saves small village of Lemmings equivalents.
Luis Sullivan
M-M-M-MEGATEXTURE ...or Zeno Clash.
Parker Taylor
Bingo
Noah Russell
See , paragraph #1.
Owen Diaz
Nope. Getting a bit closer, though. At least you guessed a video game.
Michael Powell
Wrong genre, and it's older than both.
Jonathan Reed
>the main characters steal the spellbook of a powerful and famous wizard and run off to a balcony in order to try it out under the guise of a fireworks display. >they accidentally summon a demon, who then proceeds to eat the entire kingdom whole. >reading the book, it's revealed that the only way to save the kingdom from the demon's gullet is to find a machine that grants wishes on the other side of the world. >along the way, they take down a giant mushroom man and a backwater logmill tycoon, steal the afforementioned tycoon's airship, and finally take down a selfish eye monster who stole the machine to keep it for himself. >the second MC squanders one wish to create a chicken, uses one to save the kingdom and then squanders the last one to turn everyone into clones of himself. >there was a sequel where the female lead went full power-hungry, the male turned insane pyromaniac, and both storm an alien planet in search of ultimate power. >also a japanese remake which turns the female lead into a magical girl, the male lead into a breakdancer and is possibly the world's first isekai plot. Try that.
Daniel Torres
Probably some Neptunia garbage
Parker Evans
This game's way older than that.
Lucas Lopez
>Probably some Neptunia garbage Neptunia's plot is about console wars.
Jonathan Jenkins
Wasn't that Segagagirls, or some shit?
Luis Anderson
Wasn't that an anime?
Wyatt Lopez
Don't ask me. It's all same shit for me.
Carter Phillips
>its another legitimately hyper autistic OP has a meltdown because people call him out on his cringe episode
Juan Brooks
You need to tryhard way more than just that, kid.
Sebastian Hill
Man I loved Twilight of Spirits as a kid and as an adult I bought it and beat that shit naturally siding with chad Darc because fuck Kharg and was disappointed as fuck to find out End of Darkness was beyond mediocre.
Lincoln Young
yes everybody should be as obnoxiously verbose and attention whoring as you
Robert Fisher
Fallout 2?
Jason Lewis
Pandemonium on PS1
Isaiah Myers
Yes_!
Lincoln Miller
nah, just payday 2
Anthony Hughes
Bioshock Infinite
Chase Lee
>99% of all Yea Forums doesnt know any of this Or maybe they couldn't get it because, even after deciphering that mess of quotations, a quarter of your points are actually factually untrue? >4 games Obfuscating nonsense. Koudelka is so far unlinked that its only role was to have a macguffin for the MC to rescue. You only included it to confuse. >you don't find [final boss] actual reasons for why he became "evil" and decided to turn into the final boss until at least the middle of the third game Because Kaito was fine with clones at first. He turned into the final boss, in the middle of the third game, because the clone died in the exact same manner as the original, making him pissed off with the universe itself. >3rd game has a pseudo main-bad That released Malice and more undead into the world, causing the entirety of the 4th game? That did plenty enough to definitely be a main-bad? The entire point of shadow hearts 2 was that Yuri was emotionally lost and guideless, wandering aimlessly and being lugged around by his party into beating up random villains he gives no fucks about. Having 3, or 4 "big bads" he beats down is completely in tone with the aimlessness of the game. >the fourth game utterly ruined everything canon Both endings to 3 didn't matter. Game 2 and game 3 resolve themselves cleanly in a cycle, and a 4th game STILL harping on Yuri would be retarded. Instead, the 4th game was about, you know, the Malice that the "fake big bad" released being a really big deal? It also deals with, again, why you shouldn't use the emigre manuscript, and should do what Yuri did in his ending instead. >throughout the entirety of the third game BOTH the main hero and the final boss are trying to do same thing for the same reasons You mean the MC was drowning in sorrow and punching Nazis and priests while the "big bad" pulled his shit together and decided to remake the fucking universe for his loved one? I'd call those opposite motives and opposite actions.