Silent Hill thread

The first boss is a manifestation of how painful it was to loss her virginity, I wonder who was the one to fucked her.

strange lack of art of Heather being pregnant despite being pregnant with a demon god in the game.

Why is she so smug?!

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the final boss is god

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>favorite game
SH1
>character
Harry
>monster
There are many but I was impressed by the design of the abstract daddy the first time I saw it, and the room it was in and everything
>whatever you want about SH
Again Tom is a faggot. In SH 2 I was also really impressed by the design of that underground maze where you just keep going deeper and deeper underground. The story in SH2 actually is great despite people on here memeing against it nowadays. SH3 is great but a slog to replay. The only really good thing about SH4 is the apartment segments.
SH1 > SH2 > SH3, but 2 and 3 are almost equal.
PT had me hyped beyond belief. It was literally my dream Silent Hill of Kojima working with Junji Ito.

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Split worm is a manifestation of her fear of pain while losing her virginity, not exactly that she already lost it.

>favorite game
2
>character
Heather
>monster
Pyramid Head

>whatever

fuck konami

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Favourites
Game - SH4
Characters - James
Monster - twin victims
as for new ideas, either go with PT theme, the apartment mechanics from sh 4 or make a self contained story like sh 2 and 4 instead of a meta one as 1 3 origins and SM. keep the fog if outside, keep the sh4 style if inside, yamaoka for the music is a must, don't go with a meta boss (piramid head, nemesis from re etc etc) and focus more on an intertwined world instead of the player knowing exactly when he is in normal world or otherworld. sh4 did this the best imo. no escort missions and multiple endings as in 3+.

>Split worm is a manifestation of her fear of pain while losing her virginity
This seems like a bit of a reach. I think it'd make more sense for it to be related to the demon she's "pregnant" with.

your idea does not disapprove anons.that demon was inseminated by a dick hence the worm looks like a dick.

>that demon was inseminated by a dick
???

is there another way to get pregnant? well shit.

thanks user

it's shaped like a dick and it's going in and out of holes.

I don't think Alessa was actually fucked to give birth to "god". They probably tried to use the story of the immaculate conception in a dark way.

That doesn't mean it's literally about sex. When you're pregnant and get an abortion the fetus doesn't actually come out of your mouth. Symbolism bro.

This

That

>favorite game

Silent Hill 1

>character

Lisa Garland or Heather

monster

Grey Children

>Quote

Gyromancy

>Post your favorite game
SH1
>character
Lisa
>monster
Not sure, maybe puppet nurses
>whatever you want about SH.
I want to play 1&2 in virtual reality somehow

Cool

Why did modders put so much effort into enhancing SH2 and not so much with SH3/4?

I think SH2 had more problems and it's also just more popular

>favorite game
silent hill 1
>favorite character
maria or vincent
>favorite monster
the red fog in the haunted house (fuck you, it counts)

>mfw downpour trying to do the same thing

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Silent Hill 3 is an excellent game, it's a shame a lot of people assume it's waifushit because it's really not.

It's good on the horror elements but I find actually playing it to be a drag and the story feels rushed

i absolutely hate the first two hours or so of silent hill 3, but once heather and douglas get to old silent hill, it gets much better. the hospital, haunted house, carousel and amusement park are the best areas in the game, IMO, whereas the subway, sewer and apartment building are the worst.

I actually like the start of SH3, maybe that's just me though.

oh ? The subway and the appartments are my favorite

Because despite the tiresome contrarians, SH2 is still the overall best of the series by a long shot.
SH3 has some of the best graphics of that gen so not as much to enhance. SH4 is just a lost cause entirely.
Not like the series even gets that much modding attention anyway.

sh1 is best but sh2 is close

The story just isn't very compelling and half of it is simply HEATHER ANGRY HEATHER SMASH
I think the cult is neat in theory but all the characters are complete faggots

I think SH2 had the worse PC port, and more problems when emulated.
Honestly if you can play the PS2 versions natively you should but that's asking a lot for most people, especially if they don't have a CRT and don't want to pay for a quality analog to digital converter box and cables.

it's more like 1 and 2 are the best in the series for different reasons (1's enemies, atmosphere and boss fights, 2's soundtrack and story), and 3 follows not too far behind, and then 4.

I honestly think 3 is on par with 1 and 2, for like you said "different reasons".
The visuals are just exceptional, not just in terms of graphics but composition and visual artistry.
It may not have an apparent subtext to a lot of it, but some scenes are really fantastic to just look at and try to comprehend.
You'll walk through rooms that are works of art in their own right, I really think people undersell this part of the game.
Maybe you could argue that the art in 2 is better at supporting the narrative, but 3 just does something for me.

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>Favorite game
Silent Hill 1
>Character
Vincent from SH3
>Monster
Grey Child
>Whatever I want
I'd love a proper HD collection that isn't based on old unfinished builds of the games, produced by people who actually respect the games as they were released, instead of botching everything with new voices and ill-fitting texture replacements.

>Game
Silent Hill 3

>Character
Heather

>Monster
Pyramid Head

>Whatever you want
Tomm did the best he could of what his bosses demanded of him, and Shattered Memories is a good experience.

On a side note, has anyone played Simulacrum: Chapter One?

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Did user ever finish porting Heather to Honey Select?

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>I'd love a proper HD collection that isn't based on old unfinished builds of the games, produced by people who actually respect the games as they were released, instead of botching everything with new voices and ill-fitting texture replacements.
I know HD collection was an utter disasterpiece, but I don't respect any port developer to do a good job at remastering the game even if they had the real source code.
They'd fuck up one thing or another.
Even if it was just a pure upscale with the internal resolution raised and FOV fixed, it's not going to look quite right.

Wasn't Tomm actually trying to save the franchise but he got limited to just follow orders?

He was probably trying to save the franchise like James saved Mary with a pillow

there was a massive rebuttal to TwinPerfects claims that Tomm was responsible for everything, but watching it I feel like it goes too far in the opposite direction, making it out like Tomm is a misunderstood champion of the fanbase.
I'd just assume the truth is somewhere in-between, I don't think a single person sunk any of those projects but I don't think Tomm was making all the right decisions and being ignored.

Regardless of Tomm's involvement I feel like the movie that a massive impact on the franchise as well, Konami was probably demanding changes to be more in-line with what was seen on-screen.

I can believe everything else about the rebuttal but its retarded that they were unironically implying guy cihi was somehow in the wrong in any capacity in the situation. If konami WASNT in the wrong, they wouldnt have crumbled and they would have simply used all of the original voices without questions if they genuinely legally did own them. The fact that cihi told them to pay them their fucking residuals and they actually tried to act like they dont need to WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROVING that they were scared and started rerecording shit for both games is nothing but an admittance of guilt. What im a little confused about is if they ever ended up paying those residuals or not since the original voices are still available for SH2

Thanks for the link user. Playing SH3 for the first time now ::)

Based

fuck no.
He wanted the opposite: to turn his OC-DonutSteel fanfics to be made into new game, wielding SH2's name.
He practically HATES anything that's not SH2, and loves to nitpick even that to bits.

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honestly half of those are things that regularly get said in Yea Forums

>What im a little confused about is if they ever ended up paying those residuals or not since the original voices are still available for SH2
No. The OG actors HAD TO give up their old scores for free. Guy was the last one fighting back, but even he bent the knee, probably out of respect towards the game and its fans.

There's claims that SH3 didn't get OG voices because Jewnami couldn't get a hold of Heather's VA, and thus could put them in. However, Heather herself stated that there's been no records of anyone from Konami ever trying to reach her. I bet the truth's the fact that no one cared for SH3 as much, and fitting 2 games on one (1) Xbox 360's DVD was already a nightmare as-is.

by Tomm himself.

I like how the video didn't acknowledge the parts where Tomm called the acting for original Silent Hill 2 shit and the whole "Halo-chugging buddies" comment.

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I guess it's been a while since I watched the video.

This one is right though

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The giant cockroach in the first apartments will fuck you up

thoughts?

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I'd argue against even that, questioning which difficulty you play on.
Also, SH2 really is not about killing deadly monsters and shit.

i was just playing sh1 and made it to the school.
how the fuck was i suppose to know to look in the hole with the key before turning that red valve on the roof?

>the red fog in the haunted house
When I was in the Backrooms one nightmare before the Backrooms meme, that thing was after me

There is a ton of "subtext" in Silent Hill 3.

heather scared of penis lol omg deep

No. There's a Vatra employee who spoke out about this bald cunt. Basically, him and Devin (((Shatsky))) turned down EVERY creature and otherworld design that looked too much like actual silent hill monsters and environments.

He wanted to turn Silent Hill into his own flawed vision of what it should be. Good thing he's not around anymore to rape the serie's corpse.

>I really think people undersell this part of the game.
I see some people who criticize a lot of aspects 3 at least saying that part of it was done well. It's how I feel about it too. I really liked the mirror room as a concept, but hated that it killed you. The game had too many "cinematic" ways to die which I really didn't like.

Who said anything about being "deep"? that's still subtext.

>how the fuck was i suppose to know to look in the hole with the key before turning that red valve on the roof?
...the blatant as fuck camera-angles guiding your sight directly to the holes was not enough for you?

Hell, if you play w/ the valve pre-emptively, the game shows you that shit's not working yet, which should spark your curiosity.

SH2's monsters are the most iconic ones in the franchise. Monsters in SH aren't supposed to be threatening, nor are they satisfying to kill. They are just there to disturb the player. Even Christophe Gans understood this.

>SH1
>Heather
>lying figure I guess

>Monsters in SH aren't supposed to be threatening, nor are they satisfying to kill. They are just there to disturb the player
t. people who did not play SH1.

That jazz ONLY applies to 2, to an extend.

I played every single games, I've been a Silent Hill fan for 15 years. SH1 is easy, SH2 is easy, SH3 is easy, only SH4 is hard on normal mode.

>SH2's monsters are the most iconic ones in the franchise.
Yes, because they mostly have visually appealing designs, but as a game enemy they aren't so good.

stop talking shite

>SH1 is easy,
1's "easy" is on-par with 2's "hard".
2 was just casual AF.

3 is just clusterfuck gangbang on higher difficulties.

They're all equally easy to run past and can only hurt you if you try to fight them
Except for SH3 pendulums, if you don't kill them that fucking screeching will erode your sanity

Damn the room was freakin best

fuck off, criticism is part of discussion

False. 1 has the teddies / knife kids that will fuck your shit up if you even make a noise in the dark, while 3's slurpers will literally rape you in tight corridors.

explain what you mean by "visually appealing"

>SH2's monsters are the most iconic ones in the franchise
you mean Pyramid. other monsters are quite shite, sh3 did it much better.

It doesn't matter. Monsters aren't supposed to be lethal, just like Pyramid Head doesn't kill James when he clearly has the chance to. James is not in Silent Hill to get killed.

the nurses in 2 are great designs, same with abstract daddies

Pretty subtle. Nice

SH3 monsters are pretty much uninspired retreads of SH2 monsters
Except for the weird purple eyeball things I guess, and KNIFE DUDE

Nothing threatening? If you play it on Hard Action level, you're most definitely gonna be running away from many of them because they tank far too much and will likely get a couple of hits on you, making you waste either bullets or health resources if you go all Rambo on them.

Let's not pretend Slurpers are good enemies at all, gameplay-wise. It's fucking shit to get tossed into the ground because they move so fast when they charge at you that even their animations sperg out. Nevermind that jerky is a shit alternative to avoiding them, many times they will not go for it or will attack you anyway once you pass too close to them in the two areas you find them: the offices and the hospital, both of which have those tight-ass corridors clearly made just to make you want to shoot yourself every time you pass by one.

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You ask me my favorite and it's got to be Silent Hill 2. Having a relative die from cancer and taking care of them as they had a downward spiral really hit fucking close home in a newly released game I was just expecting to just be spooky like silent hill 1 was, rather than the themes it presents to the player. The Leave ending made me bawl like a bitch but also kind of helped me empathize with my dad and some of the things he said towards the end, so that beautiful bittersweet feeling as James left really haunted me and prompted me to live life just a bit more fully
That said
>mfw mom caught me weeping at it and it felt way worse than the time she caught me beating it to a Sears bra catalog

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They have interesting designs. 1's enemies were more simple, dogs, birds, nurses, etc. but worked better from a gameplay aspect. Even though 1 is my favorite I'll admit nothing from 1 really matches Pyramid Head in design.

>Let's not pretend Slurpers are good enemies at all, gameplay-wise.
Don't change the topic.
Slurpers are a real threat BECAUSE they're so annoying.

>James is not in Silent Hill to get killed.
Duh. Neither was Harry, but 1's enemies had more variety in what they did. I think that's a poor excuse.

>They have interesting designs
How does this stop them from being good game enemies?
>1's enemies were more simple, dogs, birds, nurses, etc. but worked better from a gameplay aspect.
How?

Sorry, not really looking to change the topic, I just needed some venting because I recently replayed SH3 and I'm still butthurt at them. One of my favorite scenes in the entire series, which is when the offices turn into the Otherworld and you meet Vincent for the first time, the odd dialogue that he spouts together with my favorite background music playing during it, just to leave through the door and end up having to put up with those shit enemies that sour the entire experience. I'm salty as fuck.

The game isn't "hard" in its combat but it's satisfying enough that you won't hate it during replays.
A lot of people enjoy mastering a game and just going through it again, I don't see what's wrong with that.

i prefer them in sh1 and sh3, i hated when nurses started to spawn outside of hospital for no reason. In sh3 one of them randomly has a gun.

are movie and homecoming using design from 2 or they are different?
>AD
it's just walking bed, reused after bossfight.

>SH3 monsters are pretty much uninspired retreads of SH2 monsters
sh2 didn't have that many monsters. Closer is much better monster than mandarin. Some of monsters in 3 looks silly, like bacon-loving dogs or walking anuses, but most of them looks like threat. Also, no bug monster.

>How does this stop them from being good game enemies?
I didn't say interesting design stopped them from being good game enemies. Them all mostly doing the same thing despite having different designs is what stops them from being good enemies.

>How?
The dogs run and jump at you, the birds fly at you, nurses lumber at you like zombies, grey children grab you, rompers force you to fight if you encounter them because you can't outrun them... compared to SH2 where most of the enemies just walk around and try to hit you when they get close.

well downpour was trying a lot of stuff, a fair amount of them would have been decent if they didnt fuck it up that bad

>favourite game
Silent Hill 1 or 3
>character
Harry or Heather
>monster
Incubus
>whatever you want about SH
>brainstorm ideas for a new Silent Hill
Two Silent Hill remaster collections. The first one is 1-3, remastered with the original VAs and the company doing it is given proper time and original PS1/2 release copies. The second one is 4, Origins, SM and BoM, same schitck as last collection. Homecoming and Downpour will get individual digital releases.
The Western titles will be given time for a proper remastering to fix errors, like removal of Origins' QTEs, fixing Downpour's bugs and story issues and disowning Homecoming as part of the series.
You can pre-order all 3 collections for $200 USD and all games will come in a binding similar to the Book of Memories, which contains each game on its own individual disc, individual soundtrack CDs and a collection of released and unreleased concept art.
While we're talking about personal fanfiction, I'd also want this collection to come with PT, Silent Hill the Arcade and the Orphan trilogy, despite its shittieness.

Nice

Tom did nothing wrong

>i hated when nurses started to spawn outside of hospital for no reason
you could argue that there's a sort-of symbolic meaning for that as well.

>are movie and homecoming using design from 2 or they are different?
Both of those + 0rigins pretty much use SH2 base designs, with cotton bandaged faces.

Tom was a faggot. Stop defending a faggot. Don't be a faggot like him

Heather is objectively the best character in Silent Hill. No one is even close.

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>game
SH1
>character
Heather probably
>monster
Maria
>whatever you want
dog ending was canon

>you could argue that there's a sort-of symbolic meaning for that as well.
never saw any interesting interpretations

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>Heather is objectively the best character in Silent Hill.

>i'm scared of these monsters and on the verge of tears
>lol now i'm a sassy teen not afraid of no monster
shit writing

Explanation to this is Alessa's personality taking the place of her real personality. Still feels very arbitrary

>Alessa's personality
Doesn't really seem like that's Alessa's personality either. We didn't get anything like that from her in 1.

That's not exactly correct, considering that she was the source of all things, and very aware of it - going out of his way to try and contain the corruption of the town + even help Harry at first.
Then she starts to Jedi throw people around like an edgy teen she'd become.

None of that really makes it seem like she would've started joking with the monsters like Heather does sometimes though. If anything it just feels like they were trying to take some cues from Dante in DMC which had gotten pretty popular around that time too.

Odd way to spell James

It honestly felt quite realistic to me.
I was about her age when I played the game for the 1st time, and many moments I felt like Heather was quite literally channeling my own thoughts on the screen. That office building's alt.world -transition with that cure "ah hell no!" was so spot on, I almost cracked.

The way I see it, Heather first is OBVIOUSLY shocked and surprised by the monstrosities, but instead of acting like a damsel in distress, she gets serious after a short adjustment period. Remember, she's told to have been a bit of a bad girl, smoking cigs, carrying a knife and/or a taser as self defense items, being a bit of a loner in general.

Slap on the whole Alessa's past biz, and you got a very plausible behavior style: a teenager who's not exactly comfortable with the scenario, but feels oddly familiar with it, and generally gets the job done in the end.

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Was anyone else dissapointed in silent hill 3 when they first played it?
It just left such little impact with me, I still think about sh2 a lot to this day while 3 is kinda foggy in my memory, even though I played it very recently

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yeah, sh3 did drop the ball after 2, It's too black and white.

I really loved the atmosphere in 3. It looks way more agressive than 2. Also, it's not saying much but the game has the best gameplay

Is it weird I like Silent Hill 1 more than 2 or 3?

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i REALLY want to get into it but goddamn i hope its just my shitty control mapping on pcsx2 but the tanky controls are really annoying.
talking about 3 specifically bty.

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dude WHAT THE FUCK
Get into options and put the tank controls disabled

wow. it worked. its all fixed now. thank you user.

You are welcome. Enjoy the game, it's awesome

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I have never watched the movies, should i watch them for the keks?

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It's my favorite too. I like the heavier industrial elements.

The first one was okay for the most part, I didn't want to watch any others though.

If you've played Homecoming, the first movie will feel very familiar.
Second movie is straight up garbage.

First one has a cute loli and SH3's soundtrack.

It also has music from SH2 and does the camera angle thing from the beginning of 1.

"Dark Alessa" was kind of corny though and Sean Bean's character could've been completely cut from the movie without losing anything

Behold! Best track!
youtube.com/watch?v=ok7dc8PaPyw

They could've done better with Sean's character but I don't resent his existent, it allowed the movie to broaden its color palette. If he somehow wandered into Silent Hill the moment his wife and daughter left and became stranded it would be kino

Nope, the characters are good, plot is good, the music is fantastic. It has the most attention to detail, and interesting areas. Sucks they had to reuse some stuff from SH2 but overall the game probably has the most attention to detail in the series. All of the flavor text when examining stuff makes you want to examine everything. James rarely has anything to say.

>Was anyone else dissapointed in silent hill 3 when they first played it?
Yes, unfortunately. It's not all bad, but it definitely took more dips in quality than the first two.

Yes it didnt leave the same impact as SH2, especially in gameplay department.

>want to replay SH
>no CRT
>new TV only has component cable out
>give in to one of those HDMI converters on Amazon
I-I didn't make a bad choice, did I? I know they stretch the image, but I just want to replay SH3 on my TV

I played a decent chunk of Silent hill 2 and 3 and while they were certainly scarier games than 1, felt like the devs forgot how effective a simple premise is. Harry has every excuse in the world to just keep running deeper and deeper into the nightmare and even then he stops to question what the hell is going on. The characters in 2 and 3 all seem to act like bumbling retards who dont question much of anything for the sake of the plot.

>mfw that making of SH2 clip where the dev explains he knew the long walk of nothing in the beginning would be risky but he felt it was worth it

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It kind of makes sense for 2 since a big part of James' premise is that he's in a delusional state. I didn't have much of an issue with that.

>mfw that making of SH2 clip where the dev explains he knew the long walk of nothing in the beginning would be risky but he felt it was worth it
I didn't really like that though, I was kind of wondering how much longer it was going to go on until something happened. I didn't like escorting Maria either. It felt like it was only 1 that fully embraced being "a game", while everything after tried harder to be "an experience".

The thing is I feel like Jame's delusion can only go so far
>drive to a town
>the road is COMPLETELY blocked off with wood and shit
>public bathroom looks like no ones been there in months
>no sign of people looking over the cliffside
>take the long walk to down down the cliff
>again FUCKING NO ONE
>seriously intense fog
>blood on the road
>see a someone disturbed woman as you pass by the cemetery
>barely ask her shit
>walk through the slightly ruined ghost town
>monster
>now tons of monsters
>"yeah I'm just gonna keep looking for my wife here. Definitely not walking back the way I came"

And then there's basically fucking everything about Marie

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>replaying Silent Hill 2 because it's been a while since I've played it
>get to that room in the hospital where there's only one nurse
>for some reason I stay longer than necessary
>sudden sound of glass shattering in the background
It's been a while since this game managed to make me jump from my chair

heather is so cute

I agree
w2c heather GF?

>game
SH1 and 2 tied
>character
Angela
>monster
Abstract Daddy

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>Game
SH4

>Character
Angela

>Monster
Victim 18

How do the PC versions compare to emulation?

For an asocial guy, he actually handle his hell pretty well.

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I mean, when you're so detached from reality already by isolating yourself, your fantasies are more likely to be extreme and desensitize you to them actually happening.

>Also, we brainstorm ideas for a new Silent Hill
Homecoming squandered its "the mc was in the army brah". That's a goldmine for fucked up shit he could have seen or did.

How do I get a bf like James, Yea Forums?

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same with murphy pendleton

Themes I want to explored in the next SH game:
>family and what counts as family
>Self-happiness or the happiness of others
>Preserve yourself or sacrifice for the good of the group
>incest and abortion

Be a slut who looks like his dead wife.